Re: Tomcat Upgrade: 4.0.6 to 4.1.12

2006-08-17 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
I was wondering if anyone knew where I can find documentation on how to go 
about
upgrading Tomcat 4.0.6 to 4.1.12? Actual implementation steps would be 
helpful.



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Re: Tomcat Upgrade

2006-07-31 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
Andrew,

  Our website is developed using Vignette Content Management components. 
These comprise of VCMS and VMCM.
  We need to upgrade these two versions and due to matrix compatibility 
issues, we are forced to upgrade Tomcat  to 4.1.12.
  In this upgrade, we don't want to do a parallel installation, rather 
work w/the existing system. So would your steps
  be correct for such a scenario?


Thanks,
Ibrahim







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>Our application is currently employed Tomcat 4.0.6. I'd like this to 
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>Is there documentation which explains a step by step process of how 
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> do this?

ok, step by step:
download and install (unpack) tomcat.
put your webapp under webapps.

start tomcat.
see what happens.


btw, why 4.1.12??

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Re: Tomcat Upgrade

2006-07-31 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
Andrew,

   Our application is currently employed Tomcat 4.0.6. I'd like this to be 
upgraded to version 4.1.12.
   Is there documentation which explains a step by step process of how to 
do this?


Thanks,
Ibrahim




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> Anyone know of website which has a step by step procedure to upgrade?
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What exactly is your problem with upgrading? The 'webapp' or the 
installation of tomcat 5?

I would just install a new version of tomcat, with the JVM that you 
want, parallel, then then install your webapp - and see what happens. 
I don't quite understand the problem...

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Re: Tomcat Upgrade

2006-07-28 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
Anyone know of website which has a step by step procedure to upgrade?






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4.1.12...

Cant really help on such resource just be careful with session timeout
setup on web.xml as it seems to not work properly on 4.1.12...
setMaxInactiveInterval works as expected...

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> We have a content management application which integrates Vignette
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Re: Tomcat Upgrade

2006-07-27 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
Hello.
Would anyone know where I could find good /detailed resources on how to go 
about upgrading from
Tomcat 4.0.6 to Tomcat 4.1.12 or is it Tomcat 4.1.2?
We have a content management application which integrates Vignette 
Platform, Vignette Multisite Content Manager,
Tomcat and IHS 1.3.26 webserver and I need to upgrade all of these 
components.

Thanks,
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Re: Increase Heapsize

2006-07-19 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
what wouldve happened if you left your heapsize:
-Xms256   -Xmx1024 ?
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Re: Increase Heapsize

2006-07-19 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
No
Vignette
why? are you in a similar situation?
if so how did you go about increasing heapsize
and what appserver are you using


Ibrahim





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> I understand.
> The webapp is a content management site which has been producing out of 
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> The server has 16GB RAM which is quite significant.

Not trying to hijack the thread here, but would this content
management product be Documentum?

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RE: Increase Heapsize

2006-07-19 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
OS: Solaris
64 bit
16 GB ram
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Re: Increase Heapsize

2006-07-19 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui

I understand.
The webapp is a content management site which has been producing out of memory errors.
The server has 16GB RAM which is quite significant.
Curious:are there any other adantages to setting them the same?

I'm assuming that
going from:
-Xms512 -Xmx1024
to
-Xms512 -Xmx2048

is less desirable than
-Xms512 -Xmx1024 
to
-Xms2048 -Xmx2048

?
Understandable this may not apply in every case








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Ibrahim,

>  The current values on our system are:
> -Xms512   -Xmx1024
> 
> so if I wished to increase the heapsize, can you give an example what
> the new figures would be?

You really need to do more research on your own:

-Xms = set initial Java heap size
-Xmx = set maximum Java heap size

If you are currently allocating 1GB (-Xmx1024), then you probably want
to set it to something /bigger/ than 1GB. Perhaps 1.5GB:

-Xmx1536

Upon the recommendation of another poster, you might want to set the
initial and the maximum to the same thing (that will allocate the entire
Java heap at once, instead of forcing the memory manager to grow the
heap during runtime):

-Xms1536 -Xmx1536

It's up to you to decide what your heap size should be. You need to
understand the operation and needs of your application, as well as
pattern of usage by your users to choose a good heap size. You can
certainly allocate a HUGE heap and cross your fingers, but that is not
always a good strategy -- especially when you are limited by physical
RAM as well as the other processes running on your server.

Hope that helps,
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Re: Increase Heapsize

2006-07-19 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui

Chris

 The current values on our system are:
-Xms512   -Xmx1024

so if I wished to increase the heapsize, can you give an example what the new figures would be?


Thanks,
Ibrahim






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Ibrahim,

> How do you increase heapsize if the suggestion is to keep the Xms and Xmx 
> values the same?

When he says "the same", he means "the same as each other", not "the
same as they were before". So, use Xms=Xmx:

-Xms512 -Xmx512
or
-Xms1024 -Xmx1024
or
-Xms2048 -Xmx2048
or
-Xms4096 -Xmx4096

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Re: Increase Heapsize

2006-07-19 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
How do you increase heapsize if the suggestion is to keep the Xms and Xmx 
values the same?





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Hi,

Use following line in catalina file

set JAVA_OPTS=%JAVA_OPTS% -verbosegc -XX:+PrintGCDetails in windows change
accordingly to linux.

Run stratup.sh from command line: to see all heap information on console.



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>  Hi
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> the JVM, just append this line over there -verbosegc 
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> To avoid out of memmory errors just make sure minimum and maximum heap
> space should be same.
> You can find out still more information with GC details logged on 
enabling
> above option in JVM.
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> Check it out how much memmory is reclaimimg on each GC and whats the
> frequency of minor or major GC are happening.
> More over you can set different alogorithms like copying 
collector.markand compavt/mark and sweep /incremental/throughput 
collectors in young/ old
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> You can find brief details in following links.
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> http://java.sun.com/docs/hotspot/gc5.0/gc_tuning_5.html
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> >   This gives how much heapsize is currently allocated.
> >How can I know whether it is enough or what size it should be
> > increased to?
> >Also: real time wise, how if tomcat behaving with each
> > event/interaction/page delivery?
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> >> You can always call Runtime.getRuntime().totalMemory() to find out 
the
> >> amount of heap space that has been allocated to the JVM.
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> >  Where would this code be written?
> >  And how would I execute it?
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> Just toss a JSP file somewhere with that code in it to allow you to
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Re: Increase Heapsize

2006-07-18 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui

Chris,
  This gives how much heapsize is currently allocated.
   How can I know whether it is enough or what size it should be increased to?
   Also: real time wise, how if tomcat behaving with each event/interaction/page delivery?


Thanks,
Ibrahim






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Ibrahim,

>> You can always call Runtime.getRuntime().totalMemory() to find out the
>> amount of heap space that has been allocated to the JVM.
>
>  Where would this code be written?
>  And how would I execute it?

Just toss a JSP file somewhere with that code in it to allow you to
check up on the app.

-chris




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RE: NEW : Tomcat Performance Monitoring

2006-07-18 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
Peter,

 W e have a content management application using Vignette software for 
development. We use Tomcat 4.0.6 as our 'appserver', IHS for webserver.
And oracle as our database. We're running on solaris machines.
Last week we applied a efix supplied by the vendor (Vignette) for a 
problem that has existed since feburary. The site had been crashing nearly 
every week and each time the only resolution was to restart Tomcat.

The efix is to remedy this by replacing a particular .jar file which the 
app uses.

What I would like is to visually see the performance of Tomcat in real 
time. To see how it's performing in dealing with jsp pages and requests.
What the heapsize is, how much GC is being used etc. The thread dump was a 
post-incident way of analyzing tomcat as it provided the key in finding a 
solution. We had seen methods/classes being called just prior to the java 
deadlock and were able to conclude which efix was needed. Still however we 
could suffer other deadlocks and more crashes so as a preventive method 
I'd like to analyze the overall performance of tomcat in real time.


Thanks,
Ibrahim 






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What aspects do you need to monitor?  If you say that a thread dump
gives ample information but post-incident, I assume this is *not*
monitoring resource usage?

Please give us more information on what you're trying to accomplish, and
we'll probably do better at hitting the target!

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Re: Increase Heapsize

2006-07-18 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
Suresh,

  I'm getting a 'not found'.
  does this command need to be installed?
  I'm using ksh


Thanks,
Ibrahim




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-verbosegc -XX:+PrintGCDetails

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> Using -verbose:gc will also help in finding out the heap size
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> > Ibrahim,
> >
> > > I've increased the heapsize in my development enviroment.
> > > And I don't knowhow to confirm the change has been made to the 
effect
> > the
> > > whole system is affected.
> > > So I'd like to know how to go about confirming this, possibly thru
> > some
> > > monitoring measure.
> >
> > You can always call Runtime.getRuntime().totalMemory() to find out the
> > amount of heap space that has been allocated to the JVM. I have
> > incorporated this piece of information into a page that allows the
> > current user to "snoop" their session (only enabled in development, of
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> > -chris
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Re: Increase Heapsize

2006-07-18 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
Suresh,

  Where would I run this command? 
  And is there something else besides -verbose:gc

thanks,
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Hi,

Using -verbose:gc will also help in finding out the heap size


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> > I've increased the heapsize in my development enviroment.
> > And I don't knowhow to confirm the change has been made to the effect
> the
> > whole system is affected.
> > So I'd like to know how to go about confirming this, possibly thru 
some
> > monitoring measure.
>
> You can always call Runtime.getRuntime().totalMemory() to find out the
> amount of heap space that has been allocated to the JVM. I have
> incorporated this piece of information into a page that allows the
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Re: Increase Heapsize

2006-07-18 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui

Chris,

 Where would this code be written?
 And how would I execute it?


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Ibrahim,

> I've increased the heapsize in my development enviroment.
> And I don't knowhow to confirm the change has been made to the effect the 
> whole system is affected.
> So I'd like to know how to go about confirming this, possibly thru some 
> monitoring measure.

You can always call Runtime.getRuntime().totalMemory() to find out the
amount of heap space that has been allocated to the JVM. I have
incorporated this piece of information into a page that allows the
current user to "snoop" their session (only enabled in development, of
course).

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Re: Increase Heapsize

2006-07-18 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui

Chris,

  Thanks for your input. The application in question is a content management one which is developed using Vignette. The Vignette support team suggested the increase in heapsize as a first measure. We are analyzing the code itself for leaks. It may be that on jsp pages we are not closing connections properly.
I am wondering whether:
- simply editing the catalina.sh file as I described would do it or for proper application of an increase, we may need to use commands external to the file such as export or set?
- whether the increase made in catalina.sh may need to be made elsewere in other files?

Also what is stacksize permgensize and how can these play a role in how Tomcat performs and could their setting be related to OutOfMemory errors?

Thanks,
Ibrahim







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Barry and Ibrahim,

> I thought maybe it was done in the startup.bat file by changing the 
> properties and the initial environment space (defaulted usually to
> Auto to 4096). Is this not correct? You might try right-clicking
> startup.bat, and under the Memory tab try changing the expanded
> memory or extended memory values if they're defaulted to a certain
> value?

No, this isn't right: the properties you are talking about are for the
batch process itself (on a win32 machine). When startup.bat calls
"java", those values are not inherited by the VM.

> Do I simply increase the value after 'Xmx' in the JAVA_OPTS variable 
> in catalina.sh file?

This ought to work for you.

Although it is not unheard of to legitimately run out of memory (i.e.
get OutOfMemoryErrors), you ought to think about whether or not
increasing your heap size is actually going to fix your problem: often,
you have a memory leak and it's better to test your app with a small
heap because you can find it more quickly (i.e. less memory to burn
through before you run out).

I strongly advise you to critically examine your code to determine if
the OutOfMemoryErrors are being caused by you, or if you really do just
need more memory allocated to the JVM.

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RE: Increase Heapsize

2006-07-17 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
I've increased the heapsize in my development enviroment.
And I don't knowhow to confirm the change has been made to the effect the 
whole system is affected.
So I'd like to know how to go about confirming this, possibly thru some 
monitoring measure.

Before I move to production I'd like to be certain that a simply edit of 
one line from one file and restart of tomcat would do the job.






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ok, maybe so, yes.
I believe you're correct, Ibrahim...sorry about that. I've got mine 
piggybacking on IIS.
Eventually it will be on a UNIX box.

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I thought startup.bat was used for other versions of tomcat? no?
in my case tomcat is on a solaris box and not windows.
so isnt startup.bat used on windows?






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I thought maybe it was done in the startup.bat file by changing the 
properties and the initial environment space (defaulted usually to Auto ot 

4096).
Is this not correct? 
You might try right-clicking startup.bat, and under the Memory tab try 
changing the expanded memory or extended memory values if they're 
defaulted to a certain value?

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Hello.
I am using Tomcat 4.0.6 on the server.
I need to increase the heapsize.
Questions:
I've been receiving java OutOfMemory errors several times when a user 
attempts to upload files.
Is this enough to increase the heapsize as a 1st step?
Also how to go about doing it?
Do I simply increase the value after 'Xmx' in the JAVA_OPTS variable in 
catalina.sh file?
Or is there a export function?
Do I simply restart tomcat for the increase to take affect?
How can I monitor the application after the increase has been made?


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RE: Increase Heapsize

2006-07-17 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
I thought startup.bat was used for other versions of tomcat? no?
in my case tomcat is on a solaris box and not windows.
so isnt startup.bat used on windows?






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I thought maybe it was done in the startup.bat file by changing the 
properties and the initial environment space (defaulted usually to Auto ot 
4096).
Is this not correct? 
You might try right-clicking startup.bat, and under the Memory tab try 
changing the expanded memory or extended memory values if they're 
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Hello.
I am using Tomcat 4.0.6 on the server.
I need to increase the heapsize.
Questions:
I've been receiving java OutOfMemory errors several times when a user 
attempts to upload files.
Is this enough to increase the heapsize as a 1st step?
Also how to go about doing it?
Do I simply increase the value after 'Xmx' in the JAVA_OPTS variable in 
catalina.sh file?
Or is there a export function?
Do I simply restart tomcat for the increase to take affect?
How can I monitor the application after the increase has been made?


Thanks,
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Re: Increase Heapsize

2006-07-17 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
Hello.
I am using Tomcat 4.0.6 on the server.
I need to increase the heapsize.
Questions:
I've been receiving java OutOfMemory errors several times when a user 
attempts to upload files.
Is this enough to increase the heapsize as a 1st step?
Also how to go about doing it?
Do I simply increase the value after 'Xmx' in the JAVA_OPTS variable in 
catalina.sh file?
Or is there a export function?
Do I simply restart tomcat for the increase to take affect?
How can I monitor the application after the increase has been made?


Thanks,
Ibrahim
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RE: NEW : Tomcat Performance Monitoring

2006-07-17 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
but would sar & vmstat give me monitoring info on tomcat?
or just system usage or webserver usage?






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Everything does. You have to figure out how much it adds in your
environment.
I'd be surprised if it adds even 1% as long as you do not have a
ridiculously low delay.


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does sar effect the system as in imposing an overload?





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Pls look at the man pages and decide what you want.
You should probably pipe the output of these commands to a log file, so it
is running all the time and logging to a file and then whoever needs to 
see
this info, simply tails the log rather than running another sar or vmstat
session.

Ex. Vmstat gives you a bunch of information such as CPU idle % time, 
system
and user CPU utilization, paging, I/O Wait etc. You can pick and choose.



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Sid,

I know of sar but how do I run it?
just by 'sar' command or any other parameters?
I can't afford overhead as this is production;
as to vmstat: just by command or anything else?


Thanks,
Ibrahim




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You can use sar or vmstat
They give you system level health.
If you need inside the jvm health you can run the jvm in hprof mode. It 
adds
plenty of overhead so beware.
Try checking out
http://www.javaperformancetuning.com/resources.shtml#PerfTools 



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Only one I know of is "top" which gives me cpu/memory/disk usage;
wondering if there was freeware on the web or other commands anyone knew 
of?






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you might try looking within the server it's (Tomcat) residing on -- be it 



Unix or IIS. Either might have some non-sophisticated, built-in tools to 
help gauge it.

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Hello.
I'm creating a new thread regarding tomcat performance monitoring.
I am using Tomcat 4.0.6 in a Vignette content management application.
I need to monitor Tomcats performance real time.
Could someone suggest any answers?
Up till now, the only sure way was to do a kill -3 JVM-PID and get a 
thread dump,
which gives ample information but it is post-incident.
Are there any tools I can download and use or any commands someone can 
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RE: NEW : Tomcat Performance Monitoring

2006-07-17 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
does sar effect the system as in imposing an overload?





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Pls look at the man pages and decide what you want.
You should probably pipe the output of these commands to a log file, so it
is running all the time and logging to a file and then whoever needs to 
see
this info, simply tails the log rather than running another sar or vmstat
session.

Ex. Vmstat gives you a bunch of information such as CPU idle % time, 
system
and user CPU utilization, paging, I/O Wait etc. You can pick and choose.



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Sid,

I know of sar but how do I run it?
just by 'sar' command or any other parameters?
I can't afford overhead as this is production;
as to vmstat: just by command or anything else?


Thanks,
Ibrahim




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You can use sar or vmstat
They give you system level health.
If you need inside the jvm health you can run the jvm in hprof mode. It 
adds
plenty of overhead so beware.
Try checking out
http://www.javaperformancetuning.com/resources.shtml#PerfTools 



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Only one I know of is "top" which gives me cpu/memory/disk usage;
wondering if there was freeware on the web or other commands anyone knew 
of?






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help gauge it.

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Hello.
I'm creating a new thread regarding tomcat performance monitoring.
I am using Tomcat 4.0.6 in a Vignette content management application.
I need to monitor Tomcats performance real time.
Could someone suggest any answers?
Up till now, the only sure way was to do a kill -3 JVM-PID and get a 
thread dump,
which gives ample information but it is post-incident.
Are there any tools I can download and use or any commands someone can 
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RE: NEW : Tomcat Performance Monitoring

2006-07-17 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
Sid,

I know of sar but how do I run it?
just by 'sar' command or any other parameters?
I can't afford overhead as this is production;
as to vmstat: just by command or anything else?


Thanks,
Ibrahim




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You can use sar or vmstat
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adds
plenty of overhead so beware.
Try checking out
http://www.javaperformancetuning.com/resources.shtml#PerfTools 



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Only one I know of is "top" which gives me cpu/memory/disk usage;
wondering if there was freeware on the web or other commands anyone knew 
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I'm creating a new thread regarding tomcat performance monitoring.
I am using Tomcat 4.0.6 in a Vignette content management application.
I need to monitor Tomcats performance real time.
Could someone suggest any answers?
Up till now, the only sure way was to do a kill -3 JVM-PID and get a 
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which gives ample information but it is post-incident.
Are there any tools I can download and use or any commands someone can 
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RE: NEW : Tomcat Performance Monitoring

2006-07-17 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
Only one I know of is "top" which gives me cpu/memory/disk usage;
wondering if there was freeware on the web or other commands anyone knew 
of?






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I'm creating a new thread regarding tomcat performance monitoring.
I am using Tomcat 4.0.6 in a Vignette content management application.
I need to monitor Tomcats performance real time.
Could someone suggest any answers?
Up till now, the only sure way was to do a kill -3 JVM-PID and get a 
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which gives ample information but it is post-incident.
Are there any tools I can download and use or any commands someone can 
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Re: NEW : Tomcat Performance Monitoring

2006-07-17 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
Hello.
I'm creating a new thread regarding tomcat performance monitoring.
I am using Tomcat 4.0.6 in a Vignette content management application.
I need to monitor Tomcats performance real time.
Could someone suggest any answers?
Up till now, the only sure way was to do a kill -3 JVM-PID and get a 
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which gives ample information but it is post-incident.
Are there any tools I can download and use or any commands someone can 
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Re: How to redirect URLs

2006-07-17 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
Excuse me,
I don't mean to interrupt an existing thread but could someone tell me how 
to properly create anew thread for Tomcat related questions?
I have an immediate issue regarding tomcat performace monitoring.

Thanks
Ibrahim





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Dear All,

 

I have setup the Tomcat sever and Application, its working fine..

but I got the long URL now I want to make it short

Ex : 

 

http://www.abc.om/test/JSP/ondemand/rdtest/login.jsp

 

I want www.abc.com/forward  if  someone  types this URL in browser the 
site
should 

Redirect to above URL.

 

Could anyone please help me how to do it in Tomcat?

 

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Re: Run shell script when web application start/restart

2006-07-13 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
 a 'pstc' reveals 'vignette' as the user, which is the same for the 
internals file.
startup is thru a alias command: starttcmcm
and can be done in any directory





Avi Deitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
07/13/2006 04:19 PM
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Richard,

I think he is discussing a 2-step process. First the JSP pages are
*generated* via some shell script, then they are *compiled* from the JSP
source by Tomcat. that is why I suggested inverting it, having the JSPs
fully formed, but have them pull config info as necessary.

Richard Mixon wrote:

>Maybe I'm missing something, but if you re-generate the pages, and have
>Tomcat in development mode, the new pages will automatically be 
re-compiled
>the next time they are accessed. 
>
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>From: Tom Potter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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>The reason for me choosing the first, messy solution was that this had to 
be
>a quick fix, rewriting the logic in the JSP pages was out of the question
>(and way above the allocated budget ;) ).
>
>Of course I had the shell scripts and configuration files so it seemed 
just
>the right solution to  use these tools in the startup process of the 
webapp.
>
>It seems that I can convince the cusomer to just run the shell scripts 
that
>modify(actually generate) the JSP pages but then I face an other problem.
>After generating and copying the JSP pages in the right place how can I 
tell
>tomcat (from the shell script) to restart the application (or to 
recompile
>the pages) ?
>
>Rgds
>Thomas
>
>On 7/13/06, Avi Deitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>
>>I don't think so. You could, theoretically, have a context listener 
>>that then executes a shell script, but that is really messy, and the 
>>security manager probably won't even allow it.
>>
>>If I understand correctly, you want to have the following happen on 
>>context restart:
>>- JSP pages get rebuilt from some macros or config files
>>
>>I can think of two ways to do this. The not-so-great way is to have a 
>>context listener read the config files and generate the pages. The 
>>problem is that I don't know when JSP pages are compiled by the Tomcat 
>>engine - before or after context listeners are invoked. I believe you 
>>can force a re-compilation of the JSP pages at that point, but I am 
>>not sure how.
>>
>>The much smarter way is to ask why your JSP pages need to be 
>>macro/dynamically generated. JSP includes enough logic tags. Why not 
>>refactor your JSP pages so that they read the configuration files and 
>>output the appropriate information? This would be much cleaner, and 
>>probably wouldn't even require context restart?
>>
>>Tom Potter wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>>Jen,
>>>
>>>Just to make sure that we both talk about the same events :
>>>I don't want to restart the whole tomcat, only one web application, 
>>>that is, by clicking on the start link(or restart) in on the admin 
page.
>>>I don't see how your suggestion would help me... if I'm missing 
>>>something please make it clear to me...
>>>
>>>Rgds
>>>Thomas
>>>
>>>On 7/13/06, Mead, Jennifer L - VSCM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
On my box the start and stop scripts are just that.  .sh shell 
scripts.
In your case I would just copy them to a save file and put in an 
execution string.  The start scripts are in tomcat_home/bin.

Jen

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Subject: Run shell script when web application start/restart

The JSP pages in the Web application I install under Tomcat 4.1.30 
are based on some configuration files the user wants to modify, 
thus I
 

>>wrote
>> 
>>
a shell script to rebuild the JSP pages and repopulate the webapps 
folder.

My question is that is there a way to hook up my shell script with 
the webapp start/stop proces so it would run at every startup, in 
other words the user would activate my script by restarting the
 

>application ?
> 
>
Thanks
Thomas

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Re: mod_jk 1.2.16 release candidate: ready to test

2006-07-11 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
Edmon,

 I currently have the following:
 JAVA_OPTS="-Xms256m -Xmx512m -verbosegc"

 I'd like to double the max.
 So do I simply edit to :
 JAVA_OPTS="-Xms256m -Xmx1024m -verbosegc"

 and restart Tomcat? would the changes apply or does something else need 
to be done
or in another file as well?


Thanks,
Ibrahim




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Add Xmx to catalina.sh. Set it in JAVA_OPTS

Regards,
Edmon

On 7/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Would anyone know the correct way to increase the heapsize on Tomcat
> 4.0.6?
> Could I simply edit the catalina.sh file, increasing the value after
> 'Xmx'?
> Or is there a export command or a set command which properly increases 
it?
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> Thanks,
> Ibrahim
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Re: mod_jk 1.2.16 release candidate: ready to test

2006-07-11 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
Hi
Would anyone know the correct way to increase the heapsize on Tomcat 
4.0.6?
Could I simply edit the catalina.sh file, increasing the value after 
'Xmx'?
Or is there a export command or a set command which properly increases it?


Thanks,
Ibrahim
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Re: Increase heapsize with Tomcat 4.0.6

2006-07-11 Thread Ibrahim . Siddiqui
I am currently using Tomcat 4.0.6 with Vignette storyserver and IHS 
1.3.26.
I need to increase the heapsize.
What is the correct method for this?
Do I simply edit the catalina.sh file located at: 
/opt/vignette/tomcat-mcm/bin
and increase the number next to Xmx?
Or do I use a command to make it permanent?

Thanks,
Ibrahim
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