Re: Apache connectors for tomcat
personal preference in this order mod_proxy_http, mod_jk, mod_proxy_ajp rahul wrote: Hi, Which is the recommended connector for Apache now? mod_jk or mod_proxy_ajp (with balancer) ? rahul -- 1. e4 _ - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Apache connectors for tomcat
Not sure about the interface/protocol being depricated since there was just a new release of mod_jk 1.2.25? Also, someone put some effort into improvments into it 2.2.6 of Apache. I also noticed a 10% performance improvement in request response times using mod_jk which I was told about and proven for my web services implementation using Tomcat. Finally what to do about load balanceing if Mod_jk goes away does someone have an answer to that? Regards, -Tony --- Charlie Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may find this link helpful.it works if your using the same versions as the article. But I think JK2 has been 'deprecated'. http://www.roktech.net/devblog/enclosures/iis6-Tomcat5-JK2.pdf ~Charlie The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them. - Albert Einstein -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:25 AM To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Apache connectors for tomcat Hi, Which is the recommended connector for Apache now? mod_jk or mod_proxy_ajp (with balancer) ? rahul -- 1. e4 _ - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. --- This message is a CONFIDENTIAL communication. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, or use it, and do not disclose it to others. Please notify the sender of the delivery error by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. Thank you. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Apache connectors for tomcat
You may find this link helpful.it works if your using the same versions as the article. But I think JK2 has been 'deprecated'. http://www.roktech.net/devblog/enclosures/iis6-Tomcat5-JK2.pdf ~Charlie The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them. - Albert Einstein -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:25 AM To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Apache connectors for tomcat Hi, Which is the recommended connector for Apache now? mod_jk or mod_proxy_ajp (with balancer) ? rahul -- 1. e4 _ - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. --- This message is a CONFIDENTIAL communication. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, or use it, and do not disclose it to others. Please notify the sender of the delivery error by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. Thank you. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache connectors for tomcat
Christopher Schultz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Filip, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote: personal preference in this order mod_proxy_http, mod_jk, mod_proxy_ajp I'm interested: why choose mod_proxy_http over mod_jk? ease of configuration, no API nor configuration incompatibilities between dot (.) releases, text protocol, easier to debug, better socket handling (uses APR), ability to use smart load balancing (through appliances in between) since it uses the HTTP protocol(otherwise you can just LB TCP sessions), speed difference has been so small, that it doesn't outweigh the other pros. again, just personal opionions Filip - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG/SZ19CaO5/Lv0PARAsm5AJ47ndEuIqfmT9LHA27Kl17MI13lhgCggyzy UVl1HP68RySRkjuxjAKBb9M= =rFt2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Apache connectors for tomcat
I'm confused.Doesn't mod_jk use ajp1.3 on the tomcat side? Was that with or without the native runtime library? ~Charlie The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them. - Albert Einstein -Original Message- From: Tony Anecito [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 12:56 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Apache connectors for tomcat I had heard that mod_jk was faster so I switched from ajp to mod_jk and sure enough mod_jk was 10% faster for me. -Tony --- Christopher Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Filip, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote: personal preference in this order mod_proxy_http, mod_jk, mod_proxy_ajp I'm interested: why choose mod_proxy_http over mod_jk? - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG/SZ19CaO5/Lv0PARAsm5AJ47ndEuIqfmT9LHA27Kl17MI13lhgCggyzy UVl1HP68RySRkjuxjAKBb9M= =rFt2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. --- This message is a CONFIDENTIAL communication. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, or use it, and do not disclose it to others. Please notify the sender of the delivery error by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. Thank you. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache connectors for tomcat
Charlie Wingate wrote: I'm confused.Doesn't mod_jk use ajp1.3 on the tomcat side? Was that with or without the native runtime library? 1) mod_jk uses the protocol AJP 2) On the Tomcat side, there is a pure Java AJP connector, and a native one (called APR connector). You can choose. 3) Most likly (?) Tony meant from mod_proxy_ajp to mod_jk, although I would not expect a big performance difference between those two. The biggest difference between mod_jk and mod_proxy_ajp/mod_proxy_balancer at the moment in my opinion is - mod_jk gets released more often because it's independantly released, so it's easier for us to add features and fix bugs - mod_jk has more options to handle more complicated backend topologies - mod_proxy_* is easier to understand for simple configurations - mod_proxy_* has the advantage of automatically being installed on nearly all systems which have Apache httpd 2.2. Regards, Rainer ~Charlie The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them. - Albert Einstein -Original Message- From: Tony Anecito [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 12:56 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Apache connectors for tomcat I had heard that mod_jk was faster so I switched from ajp to mod_jk and sure enough mod_jk was 10% faster for me. -Tony - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Apache connectors for tomcat
From: Tony Anecito [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Apache connectors for tomcat Not sure about the interface/protocol being depricated It's mod_jk2 that has been abandoned for over two years; mod_jk is still in very active development. Any documentation or recommendations for mod_jk2 are sadly out of date. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Apache connectors for tomcat
Thanks for the clarification. -Tony --- Caldarale, Charles R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tony Anecito [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Apache connectors for tomcat Not sure about the interface/protocol being depricated It's mod_jk2 that has been abandoned for over two years; mod_jk is still in very active development. Any documentation or recommendations for mod_jk2 are sadly out of date. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Apache connectors for tomcat
Mod_jk and Mod_jk2 are different animals..JK2 is deprecated. The reason I mention it is that it is easy to assume that JK2 is the latest and greatest given the naming convention. Mod_jk 1.2.25 was released late july and IS the latest in the mod_jk project; to my knowledge anyway. ~Charlie The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them. - Albert Einstein -Original Message- From: Tony Anecito [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:19 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Apache connectors for tomcat Not sure about the interface/protocol being depricated since there was just a new release of mod_jk 1.2.25? Also, someone put some effort into improvments into it 2.2.6 of Apache. I also noticed a 10% performance improvement in request response times using mod_jk which I was told about and proven for my web services implementation using Tomcat. Finally what to do about load balanceing if Mod_jk goes away does someone have an answer to that? Regards, -Tony --- Charlie Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may find this link helpful.it works if your using the same versions as the article. But I think JK2 has been 'deprecated'. http://www.roktech.net/devblog/enclosures/iis6-Tomcat5-JK2.pdf ~Charlie The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them. - Albert Einstein -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:25 AM To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Apache connectors for tomcat Hi, Which is the recommended connector for Apache now? mod_jk or mod_proxy_ajp (with balancer) ? rahul -- 1. e4 _ - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. --- This message is a CONFIDENTIAL communication. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, or use it, and do not disclose it to others. Please notify the sender of the delivery error by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. Thank you. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. --- This message is a CONFIDENTIAL communication. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, or use it, and do not disclose it to others. Please notify the sender of the delivery error by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. Thank you. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e
Re: Apache connectors for tomcat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Filip, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote: personal preference in this order mod_proxy_http, mod_jk, mod_proxy_ajp I'm interested: why choose mod_proxy_http over mod_jk? - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG/SZ19CaO5/Lv0PARAsm5AJ47ndEuIqfmT9LHA27Kl17MI13lhgCggyzy UVl1HP68RySRkjuxjAKBb9M= =rFt2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I had heard that mod_jk was faster so I switched from ajp to mod_jk and sure enough mod_jk was 10% faster for me. -Tony --- Christopher Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Filip, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote: personal preference in this order mod_proxy_http, mod_jk, mod_proxy_ajp I'm interested: why choose mod_proxy_http over mod_jk? - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG/SZ19CaO5/Lv0PARAsm5AJ47ndEuIqfmT9LHA27Kl17MI13lhgCggyzy UVl1HP68RySRkjuxjAKBb9M= =rFt2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Apache connectors for tomcat
Hi Charlie, I heard that mod_jk was based off of ajp so I was quite surprised mod_jk was faster. Not sure how to answer your question regarding the native runtime library since all I did was download the module file for mod_jk and comment out the ajp proxy module. Regards, -Tony --- Charlie Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm confused.Doesn't mod_jk use ajp1.3 on the tomcat side? Was that with or without the native runtime library? ~Charlie The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them. - Albert Einstein -Original Message- From: Tony Anecito [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 12:56 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Apache connectors for tomcat I had heard that mod_jk was faster so I switched from ajp to mod_jk and sure enough mod_jk was 10% faster for me. -Tony --- Christopher Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Filip, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote: personal preference in this order mod_proxy_http, mod_jk, mod_proxy_ajp I'm interested: why choose mod_proxy_http over mod_jk? - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG/SZ19CaO5/Lv0PARAsm5AJ47ndEuIqfmT9LHA27Kl17MI13lhgCggyzy UVl1HP68RySRkjuxjAKBb9M= =rFt2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. --- This message is a CONFIDENTIAL communication. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, or use it, and do not disclose it to others. Please notify the sender of the delivery error by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. Thank you. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache connectors for tomcat
Hi Rainer, I am not sure if JBoss embedded Tomcat uses the native ajp but a great point. Do you know how to check for that? Also, you need to keep in mind the scale of things. In other words my measurements at the client side are in the 4 millisecond range. Depending how long the data takes to get through communications stack on the server then to the client comm stack we might actually only be seeing a millisecond or two at Tomcat. Normally overall transaction improvements of a millisecond do not matter to most people ;-) Regards, Tony Anecito, Founder MyUniPortal --- Rainer Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charlie Wingate wrote: I'm confused.Doesn't mod_jk use ajp1.3 on the tomcat side? Was that with or without the native runtime library? 1) mod_jk uses the protocol AJP 2) On the Tomcat side, there is a pure Java AJP connector, and a native one (called APR connector). You can choose. 3) Most likly (?) Tony meant from mod_proxy_ajp to mod_jk, although I would not expect a big performance difference between those two. The biggest difference between mod_jk and mod_proxy_ajp/mod_proxy_balancer at the moment in my opinion is - mod_jk gets released more often because it's independantly released, so it's easier for us to add features and fix bugs - mod_jk has more options to handle more complicated backend topologies - mod_proxy_* is easier to understand for simple configurations - mod_proxy_* has the advantage of automatically being installed on nearly all systems which have Apache httpd 2.2. Regards, Rainer ~Charlie The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them. - Albert Einstein -Original Message- From: Tony Anecito [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 12:56 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Apache connectors for tomcat I had heard that mod_jk was faster so I switched from ajp to mod_jk and sure enough mod_jk was 10% faster for me. -Tony - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache connectors for tomcat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, Tony Anecito wrote: I heard that mod_jk was based off of ajp so I was quite surprised mod_jk was faster. Yes, mod_jk does use the AJP protocol. Why were you surprised that it was faster? With what are you comparing it? - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG/VfY9CaO5/Lv0PARAjvKAJ9sZhZby/qVSlh/NMbnyxpfjbbkuwCgnFiZ MSudRIHxnN741iQm0jpYDCc= =DDyM -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Chris: 1. I am instrumenting inside the servlet code, looking at Apache web server logs then at the Rich Internet Application (RIA) For a typcial request for my Portal from client to servlet for example: 1. 4.55msec inside the RIA java code after the data was read from the SOAP message. 2. 0 microseconds read in the Apache Web Server logs 3. Under a microsecond in the servlet code for the service method. I have a multi-tier caching system so most of the request/responses are under 1500 bytes or the size of a single packet. Even if there is a cache miss most of the requests are still under 1500 bytes after compression by JAXWS web service code. Hope that helps. Tony Anecito, Founder MyUniPortal --- Christopher Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, Tony Anecito wrote: I am not sure if JBoss embedded Tomcat uses the native ajp but a great point. Do you know how to check for that? Since JBoss uses Tomcat, it can use any of the standard connectors available for it (basically HTTP(s) and/or AJP). Also, you need to keep in mind the scale of things. In other words my measurements at the client side are in the 4 millisecond range. Depending how long the data takes to get through communications stack on the server then to the client comm stack we might actually only be seeing a millisecond or two at Tomcat. Huh? I thought you were instrumenting your code within Tomcat resulting in 4ms transaction times, and you now wanted to know how much overhead was being added (on top of that) to the transaction by the other components. Is that not the case? Normally overall transaction improvements of a millisecond do not matter to most people ;-) Actually, if your transactions are taking 4ms and you can shave off 1ms, then that's a 25% performance improvement. If your transactions are taking 300ms, perhaps 1ms isn't that big of a deal. - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG/Vek9CaO5/Lv0PARAkIBAJ0eGaHoEU+wDdEOYT4pXtvVOvUMhQCfWhXP 60oVc48I2SGWCqZHXVk4B0o= =WYdf -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]