Re: Tomcat 7 not honoring maxThreads configuration in catalina.properties and activeCount not going beyond 200
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 akshay, On 1/26/14, 2:04 PM, akshay hiremath wrote: On Friday, January 24, 2014 7:04 PM, Konstantin Kolinko knst.koli...@gmail.com wrote: 2014/1/24 akshay hiremath akshay...@yahoo.com: Through some trials found that its not enough to increase the Executors thread count(maxThreads for Executor element) but also need to increase the Connectors thread count(maxThreads for Connector element). This behavior is not actually clearly captured in tomcat documentation says 1. The rules: http://tomcat.apache.org/lists.html#tomcat-users - 6. do not top-post, 7. do not send attachments 2. Are you sure that you are actually using an Executor? In your original port there is no guarantee that the executor attribute of your Connector matches the name of an Executor that you declared. If the Executor does not exist, the attribute will be ignored. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org 1. The rules: http://tomcat.apache.org/lists.html#tomcat-users - 6. do not top-post, 7. do not send attachments Sorry about Top posting. i didn't know about top post issue. Now I'm taking care of this. In your original port there is no guarantee that the executor attribute of your Connector matches the name of an Executor that you declared. If the Executor does not exist, the attribute will be ignored. I'm using the Executor in the connector. In case if you have missed my original post portions because of my wrong top posting. server.xml content: Executor name=tomcatThreadPool namePrefix=${server.service-Catalina.executor-tomcatThreadPool.namePrefix} maxThreads=${server.service-Catalina.executor-tomcatThreadPool.maxThreads} minSpareThreads=${server.service-Catalina.executor-tomcatThreadPool.minSpareThreads}/ Executor's name: tomcatThreadPool Connector executor=${server.service-Catalina.connector.http1.1.executor} Executor reference: ${server.service-Catalina.connector.http1.1.executor}. Depending upon the value of all that mess, you might not have the right executor name. How about showing us the segment of the server.xml that actually gets used by Tomcat, instead of the ant-processed template file? server.service-Catalina.connector.http1.1.executor=tomcatThreadPool Are you sure? Try connecting with JMX and taking a look at the connector's executor name. - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS5oJvAAoJEBzwKT+lPKRYjPoP/1zfNtlQ0hgFDcl1mZ2eq+Jj tqTKF/MsRBAOy+FA/eLp8KOaJpS/JpcjVmf7tXdIykeTCREcIgDUYWVgieOL+Imv /FhQ2T+upqX0fAzleB3m/WKRMZnH6n9nmL/UpUr/6++L+d+IsCz4KqXSXazgOGIl vJF9dVW+YcKh8bd43BYSjR/Sj54ucysNjr/OzJipjJFmVuIBa1djR+uCO+732r8A PQCplEVzGCLDOhZepMc3mBXgBk5fAmTMm4QtCqAP3b2/BSwmi28vvR0Vom2rfnEF OZXUuyZm++tMPSSRzsLUaCADC9+Dt+qyFvQ2IL7jGmxBrjSBY4jz1QZ8APpG1Kh7 CQXoPyXbJ/iKx/qFvZLscmcnGQZfK4h++lSZNy3Zx8qhD7BgbwKxQRC+c1BzXhgC SLIeijO+wvcDVipUCYzki5zWDtVgdyGfEDOZ8MhOqrD6VA4hLONVcX4HkQXjqsjB eB4KWpNJ3+q/rO6nCm8FqReXuawr6y6G9S10ZRrcF+eZj9cbn18G8JcHlE3rhwxh 3UoJDIUfPwyV+0jDc9aAacnzVdn1bQPbxvMxD3bAWFGOLDiQe+fZtEQKnAQnVmUz 1yY/3SWRLfqDZ47BKdMTZ/3rwfh8MZ6US+fBatZTU3AkvQk2k4WYvA4/BxwaoLXo 2V2+2DzR85y3gl0Jqu0W =Eo47 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: Tomcat 7 not honoring maxThreads configuration in catalina.properties and activeCount not going beyond 200
On Friday, January 24, 2014 7:04 PM, Konstantin Kolinko knst.koli...@gmail.com wrote: 2014/1/24 akshay hiremath akshay...@yahoo.com: Through some trials found that its not enough to increase the Executors thread count(maxThreads for Executor element) but also need to increase the Connectors thread count(maxThreads for Connector element). This behavior is not actually clearly captured in tomcat documentation says 1. The rules: http://tomcat.apache.org/lists.html#tomcat-users - 6. do not top-post, 7. do not send attachments 2. Are you sure that you are actually using an Executor? In your original port there is no guarantee that the executor attribute of your Connector matches the name of an Executor that you declared. If the Executor does not exist, the attribute will be ignored. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org 1. The rules: http://tomcat.apache.org/lists.html#tomcat-users - 6. do not top-post, 7. do not send attachments Sorry about Top posting. i didn't know about top post issue. Now I'm taking care of this. In your original port there is no guarantee that the executor attribute of your Connector matches the name of an Executor that you declared. If the Executor does not exist, the attribute will be ignored. I'm using the Executor in the connector. In case if you have missed my original post portions because of my wrong top posting. server.xml content: Executor name=tomcatThreadPool namePrefix=${server.service-Catalina.executor-tomcatThreadPool.namePrefix} maxThreads=${server.service-Catalina.executor-tomcatThreadPool.maxThreads} minSpareThreads=${server.service-Catalina.executor-tomcatThreadPool.minSpareThreads}/ Connector executor=${server.service-Catalina.connector.http1.1.executor} port=${http.port} protocol=${server.service-Catalina.connector.http1.1.protocol} connectionTimeout=${server.service-Catalina.connector.http1.1.connectionTimeout} redirectPort=${https.port} acceptCount=${server.service-Catalina.connector.http1.1.acceptCount} maxKeepAliveRequests=${server.service-Catalina.connector.http1.1.maxKeepAliveRequests}/ catalina.properties: server.service-Catalina.connector.http1.1.executor=tomcatThreadPool --Akshay
Re: Tomcat 7 not honoring maxThreads configuration in catalina.properties and activeCount not going beyond 200
Through some trials found that its not enough to increase the Executors thread count(maxThreads for Executor element) but also need to increase the Connectors thread count(maxThreads for Connector element). This behavior is not actually clearly captured in tomcat documentation says A reference to the name in an Executor element. If this attribute is set, and the named executor exists, the connector will use the executor, and all the other thread attributes will be ignored. Note that if a shared executor is not specified for a connector then the connector will use a private, internal executor to provide the thread pool. all the other thread attributes will be ignored makes impression that its enough to increase the Executor thread count. As executor is a shared thread pool and connector is using that but what I seen is Referencing the Executor in Connector element and setting maxThreads for Executor is not enough. If we do that tomcat creates no. of threads as per maxThread configuration of Executor but not all threads are actually used for request processing. Even if we put more load the activeCount will never go above 200 that is default maxThreads value of Connector. To get threads more than 200 we have to additionally set the maxThread attribute for Connectors element as well. (irrespective of Executor reference) When I explicitly set maxThreads for Connectors activeCount actually went UP to the maxThreads limit. Now I'm able to reach activeCounts beyond 250 see attachment. On Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:45 PM, Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 akshay, On 1/23/14, 9:07 AM, akshay hiremath wrote: We have this HP load runner running a load of requests on this system. We don't see request rejected by Tomcat but if I monitor the activeCount attribute of Mbean Catalina:type=Executor,name=tomcatThreadPool over the period of test why the activeCount is not going above 200. if I continuously track activeCount and currentThreadsBusy of MBean Catalina:type=ThreadPool,name=http-bio-8080 I see the graph reahes 200 and flat lines there. Please find monitored graph attached during one of the tests. See time frm start of graph to the 13:30 when test ended. ignore the in between part and rest graph that is of another ongoing test. Attachments are stripped from the list. Find another way to express your thoughts. Is it possible that you are simply not generating enough load? If Tomcat is responding to all of your requests (e.g. none of them are failing to connect, failing to respond, or responding very slowly -- as if queued) than it sounds like your Tomcat instance is handling all the load you are throwing at it. - -chris On Thursday, January 23, 2014 7:06 PM, Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org wrote: On 23/01/2014 13:30, akshay hiremath wrote: Why tomcat is not able to have more than 200 active Threads (parallel threads) processng my requests? It can. The issue is that the combination of the requests you are making (which you fail to describe), your load testing framework (which you fail to describe) and the scheduling in the CPUs of your hardware (which you also fail to describe) mean that the chances of there actually being 300 concurrent requests for Tomcat to process is pretty much zero. Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org mailto:users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org mailto:users-h...@tomcat.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS4TH3AAoJEBzwKT+lPKRY1vQP/01g9bL731iYBYV9MQtDhLMJ LeBXfV2996qnpX2VftnltPGXq2V9/l93tjRMiDxrcaGIrdzebkzv+PegRdhIxto1 JeIJh9xBFKd+J/aWTmzDYLzE9/eGoGRW+R+G3MuqqBs3KSXaNbEDHtdB/5zzQ0Bj Ht7iWTvPyEkp3JeKBo/FM/nZG2cnBNwC+kNWkdzlOqPIWUVOPmbqQky2qkM86s+d 65trfkDDSkez1ws2bZJ42TbW3IR9Qv1H/YlMzMmr2BJpGUnTAIKwu0l+bD+kH8pT QQo7anuTpuygwsE30zO3FcgkwzTuPcccHTh0G1XvzCYFJJ+tnAa4h+0Z6GAu7q6E 5ltIyHZjp4KJoLulNFQfqlItjabi6XIUwwQk/Ob4pRpgfsORIwapusY1vFThwhJv m3M0fVgWmxCHc41ed+mMhUPewXqqv0iaXKj4oxuW9GSPfdlQ7wCECwcIR11K39aU Ff9dbEEFuT7yvKgQy589dsSycgydCONTS+4b/25stwR1VgxA2MlvhcF8LBNN3o8L kPefjrOQVGLAuwrSgBiAVsD9dNDis5UhQ0sdGUKoLSuI3HSy1KMANVUWjYmig4bP fUmhGlKiM9CknxUpDK/rdAGWUOQU06rXeWVitQ/2p42UQibtAhXuM+1ymw/v4zou SBh0nxrR6K0AVV8KhomP =TIpT -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: Tomcat 7 not honoring maxThreads configuration in catalina.properties and activeCount not going beyond 200
2014/1/24 akshay hiremath akshay...@yahoo.com: Through some trials found that its not enough to increase the Executors thread count(maxThreads for Executor element) but also need to increase the Connectors thread count(maxThreads for Connector element). This behavior is not actually clearly captured in tomcat documentation says 1. The rules: http://tomcat.apache.org/lists.html#tomcat-users - 6. do not top-post, 7. do not send attachments 2. Are you sure that you are actually using an Executor? In your original port there is no guarantee that the executor attribute of your Connector matches the name of an Executor that you declared. If the Executor does not exist, the attribute will be ignored. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: Tomcat 7 not honoring maxThreads configuration in catalina.properties and activeCount not going beyond 200
On 23/01/2014 13:30, akshay hiremath wrote: Why tomcat is not able to have more than 200 active Threads (parallel threads) processng my requests? It can. The issue is that the combination of the requests you are making (which you fail to describe), your load testing framework (which you fail to describe) and the scheduling in the CPUs of your hardware (which you also fail to describe) mean that the chances of there actually being 300 concurrent requests for Tomcat to process is pretty much zero. Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: Tomcat 7 not honoring maxThreads configuration in catalina.properties and activeCount not going beyond 200
We have this HP load runner running a load of requests on this system. We don't see request rejected by Tomcat but if I monitor the activeCount attribute of Mbean Catalina:type=Executor,name=tomcatThreadPool over the period of test why the activeCount is not going above 200. if I continuously track activeCount and currentThreadsBusy of MBean Catalina:type=ThreadPool,name=http-bio-8080 I see the graph reahes 200 and flat lines there. Please find monitored graph attached during one of the tests. See time frm start of graph to the 13:30 when test ended. ignore the in between part and rest graph that is of another ongoing test. On Thursday, January 23, 2014 7:06 PM, Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org wrote: On 23/01/2014 13:30, akshay hiremath wrote: Why tomcat is not able to have more than 200 active Threads (parallel threads) processng my requests? It can. The issue is that the combination of the requests you are making (which you fail to describe), your load testing framework (which you fail to describe) and the scheduling in the CPUs of your hardware (which you also fail to describe) mean that the chances of there actually being 300 concurrent requests for Tomcat to process is pretty much zero. Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: Tomcat 7 not honoring maxThreads configuration in catalina.properties and activeCount not going beyond 200
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 akshay, On 1/23/14, 9:07 AM, akshay hiremath wrote: We have this HP load runner running a load of requests on this system. We don't see request rejected by Tomcat but if I monitor the activeCount attribute of Mbean Catalina:type=Executor,name=tomcatThreadPool over the period of test why the activeCount is not going above 200. if I continuously track activeCount and currentThreadsBusy of MBean Catalina:type=ThreadPool,name=http-bio-8080 I see the graph reahes 200 and flat lines there. Please find monitored graph attached during one of the tests. See time frm start of graph to the 13:30 when test ended. ignore the in between part and rest graph that is of another ongoing test. Attachments are stripped from the list. Find another way to express your thoughts. Is it possible that you are simply not generating enough load? If Tomcat is responding to all of your requests (e.g. none of them are failing to connect, failing to respond, or responding very slowly -- as if queued) than it sounds like your Tomcat instance is handling all the load you are throwing at it. - -chris On Thursday, January 23, 2014 7:06 PM, Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org wrote: On 23/01/2014 13:30, akshay hiremath wrote: Why tomcat is not able to have more than 200 active Threads (parallel threads) processng my requests? It can. The issue is that the combination of the requests you are making (which you fail to describe), your load testing framework (which you fail to describe) and the scheduling in the CPUs of your hardware (which you also fail to describe) mean that the chances of there actually being 300 concurrent requests for Tomcat to process is pretty much zero. Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org mailto:users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org mailto:users-h...@tomcat.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS4TH3AAoJEBzwKT+lPKRY1vQP/01g9bL731iYBYV9MQtDhLMJ LeBXfV2996qnpX2VftnltPGXq2V9/l93tjRMiDxrcaGIrdzebkzv+PegRdhIxto1 JeIJh9xBFKd+J/aWTmzDYLzE9/eGoGRW+R+G3MuqqBs3KSXaNbEDHtdB/5zzQ0Bj Ht7iWTvPyEkp3JeKBo/FM/nZG2cnBNwC+kNWkdzlOqPIWUVOPmbqQky2qkM86s+d 65trfkDDSkez1ws2bZJ42TbW3IR9Qv1H/YlMzMmr2BJpGUnTAIKwu0l+bD+kH8pT QQo7anuTpuygwsE30zO3FcgkwzTuPcccHTh0G1XvzCYFJJ+tnAa4h+0Z6GAu7q6E 5ltIyHZjp4KJoLulNFQfqlItjabi6XIUwwQk/Ob4pRpgfsORIwapusY1vFThwhJv m3M0fVgWmxCHc41ed+mMhUPewXqqv0iaXKj4oxuW9GSPfdlQ7wCECwcIR11K39aU Ff9dbEEFuT7yvKgQy589dsSycgydCONTS+4b/25stwR1VgxA2MlvhcF8LBNN3o8L kPefjrOQVGLAuwrSgBiAVsD9dNDis5UhQ0sdGUKoLSuI3HSy1KMANVUWjYmig4bP fUmhGlKiM9CknxUpDK/rdAGWUOQU06rXeWVitQ/2p42UQibtAhXuM+1ymw/v4zou SBh0nxrR6K0AVV8KhomP =TIpT -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org