Re: jdbc driver location in TC 7

2012-03-26 Thread Torsten Krah
Am Montag, den 26.03.2012, 05:30 -0600 schrieb Terence M. Bandoian:
> Apparently, Tomcat (6.0.29) takes care of that if the 
> driver is located in the Tomcat lib directory but not if it is
> located 
> in web application's lib directory. 

Tomcat does not take care afaik - the classloader is not the webapps
classloader, so there is no leak to report.



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Re: jdbc driver location in TC 7

2012-03-26 Thread Pid
On 26/03/2012 12:30, Terence M. Bandoian wrote:
>  On 1:59 PM, Pid * wrote:
>> On 25 Mar 2012, at 03:10, "Terence M. Bandoian" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1:59 PM, Pid * wrote:
>>>> On 23 Mar 2012, at 21:59, David Kerber   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/23/2012 6:51 PM, Terence M. Bandoian wrote:
>>>>>> On 1:59 PM, David kerber wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/23/2012 11:19 AM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
>>>>>>>>> From: David kerber [mailto:dcker...@verizon.net]
>>>>>>>>> Subject: jdbc driver location in TC 7
>>>>>>>>> Where is the recommended location for jdbc driver jars in TC7,
>>>>>>>>> when I'm using separate CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE locations?
>>>>>>>> If you look in conf/catalina.properties, you'll see the order in
>>>>>>>> which the common loader searches directories.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If it makes a difference, I am not using tomcat's connection
>>>>>>>>> pooling; it's handled in my app.
>>>>>>>> That's a critical difference.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I generally would prefer to put it in my webapp's lib directory
>>>>>>>> That is the correct location, since Tomcat is not involved.
>>>>>>> Great; thanks for confirming.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, David-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I prefer the web app's lib directory as well but when I place the
>>>>>> JDBC driver there, a memory leak detection error is logged when I
>>>>>> stop Tomcat.  Not a big deal but I'd prefer not to have to
>>>>>> explain.  When I move the JDBC driver to the Tomcat lib directory,
>>>>>> the error is no longer logged.  (Tomcat 6)
>>>>> Even better would be to fix your probable connection leak.  I had
>>>>> some too, when I went to a version that had the leak detection, but
>>>>> was able to fix them all.
>>>>>
>>>>> D
>>>> Yup. Just deregister the DB driver on app stop using a
>>>> ServletContexListener.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> p
>>>
>>> Thanks.  I'll give that a try.  Wouldn't I see a connection leak no
>>> matter where I placed the driver?
>> Only if you're not returning / cleaning up connection objects properly.
>>
>>
>>> De-registering the driver may do the trick.
>> This addresses the driver leak&  warning by Tomcat.
>>
>>
>> p
> 
> 
> Thanks again.  Explicitly de-registering the driver eliminated the
> Tomcat error message with the driver located in WEB-INF/lib.  From what
> I've read, JDBC 4.0 drivers automatically register themselves with
> DriverManager but I haven't seen anything about automatic
> de-registration.  Apparently, Tomcat (6.0.29) takes care of that if the
> driver is located in the Tomcat lib directory but not if it is located
> in web application's lib directory.  Or maybe de-registration isn't a
> concern when Tomcat is shutting down.

The other way round, I think.  Read the warning message.


p

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Re: jdbc driver location in TC 7

2012-03-26 Thread Terence M. Bandoian

 On 1:59 PM, Pid * wrote:

On 25 Mar 2012, at 03:10, "Terence M. Bandoian"  wrote:


On 1:59 PM, Pid * wrote:

On 23 Mar 2012, at 21:59, David Kerber   wrote:


On 3/23/2012 6:51 PM, Terence M. Bandoian wrote:

On 1:59 PM, David kerber wrote:

On 3/23/2012 11:19 AM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

From: David kerber [mailto:dcker...@verizon.net]
Subject: jdbc driver location in TC 7
Where is the recommended location for jdbc driver jars in TC7,
when I'm using separate CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE locations?

If you look in conf/catalina.properties, you'll see the order in which the 
common loader searches directories.


If it makes a difference, I am not using tomcat's connection
pooling; it's handled in my app.

That's a critical difference.


I generally would prefer to put it in my webapp's lib directory

That is the correct location, since Tomcat is not involved.

Great; thanks for confirming.

D


Hi, David-

I prefer the web app's lib directory as well but when I place the JDBC driver 
there, a memory leak detection error is logged when I stop Tomcat.  Not a big 
deal but I'd prefer not to have to explain.  When I move the JDBC driver to the 
Tomcat lib directory, the error is no longer logged.  (Tomcat 6)

Even better would be to fix your probable connection leak.  I had some too, 
when I went to a version that had the leak detection, but was able to fix them 
all.

D

Yup. Just deregister the DB driver on app stop using a ServletContexListener.


p


Thanks.  I'll give that a try.  Wouldn't I see a connection leak no matter 
where I placed the driver?

Only if you're not returning / cleaning up connection objects properly.



De-registering the driver may do the trick.

This addresses the driver leak&  warning by Tomcat.


p



Thanks again.  Explicitly de-registering the driver eliminated the 
Tomcat error message with the driver located in WEB-INF/lib.  From what 
I've read, JDBC 4.0 drivers automatically register themselves with 
DriverManager but I haven't seen anything about automatic 
de-registration.  Apparently, Tomcat (6.0.29) takes care of that if the 
driver is located in the Tomcat lib directory but not if it is located 
in web application's lib directory.  Or maybe de-registration isn't a 
concern when Tomcat is shutting down.


-Terence Bandoian


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Re: jdbc driver location in TC 7

2012-03-26 Thread Terence M. Bandoian

 On 1:59 PM, Pid * wrote:

On 25 Mar 2012, at 03:10, "Terence M. Bandoian"  wrote:


On 1:59 PM, Pid * wrote:

On 23 Mar 2012, at 21:59, David Kerber   wrote:


On 3/23/2012 6:51 PM, Terence M. Bandoian wrote:

On 1:59 PM, David kerber wrote:

On 3/23/2012 11:19 AM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

From: David kerber [mailto:dcker...@verizon.net]
Subject: jdbc driver location in TC 7
Where is the recommended location for jdbc driver jars in TC7,
when I'm using separate CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE locations?

If you look in conf/catalina.properties, you'll see the order in which the 
common loader searches directories.


If it makes a difference, I am not using tomcat's connection
pooling; it's handled in my app.

That's a critical difference.


I generally would prefer to put it in my webapp's lib directory

That is the correct location, since Tomcat is not involved.

Great; thanks for confirming.

D


Hi, David-

I prefer the web app's lib directory as well but when I place the JDBC driver 
there, a memory leak detection error is logged when I stop Tomcat.  Not a big 
deal but I'd prefer not to have to explain.  When I move the JDBC driver to the 
Tomcat lib directory, the error is no longer logged.  (Tomcat 6)

Even better would be to fix your probable connection leak.  I had some too, 
when I went to a version that had the leak detection, but was able to fix them 
all.

D

Yup. Just deregister the DB driver on app stop using a ServletContexListener.


p


Thanks.  I'll give that a try.  Wouldn't I see a connection leak no matter 
where I placed the driver?

Only if you're not returning / cleaning up connection objects properly.



De-registering the driver may do the trick.

This addresses the driver leak&  warning by Tomcat.


p




Exactly.

-Terence Bandoian


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Re: jdbc driver location in TC 7

2012-03-25 Thread Pid *
On 25 Mar 2012, at 03:10, "Terence M. Bandoian"  wrote:

> On 1:59 PM, Pid * wrote:
>> On 23 Mar 2012, at 21:59, David Kerber  wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/23/2012 6:51 PM, Terence M. Bandoian wrote:
>>>> On 1:59 PM, David kerber wrote:
>>>>> On 3/23/2012 11:19 AM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
>>>>>>> From: David kerber [mailto:dcker...@verizon.net]
>>>>>>> Subject: jdbc driver location in TC 7
>>>>>>> Where is the recommended location for jdbc driver jars in TC7,
>>>>>>> when I'm using separate CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE locations?
>>>>>> If you look in conf/catalina.properties, you'll see the order in which 
>>>>>> the common loader searches directories.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it makes a difference, I am not using tomcat's connection
>>>>>>> pooling; it's handled in my app.
>>>>>> That's a critical difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I generally would prefer to put it in my webapp's lib directory
>>>>>> That is the correct location, since Tomcat is not involved.
>>>>> Great; thanks for confirming.
>>>>>
>>>>> D
>>>>>
>>>> Hi, David-
>>>>
>>>> I prefer the web app's lib directory as well but when I place the JDBC 
>>>> driver there, a memory leak detection error is logged when I stop Tomcat.  
>>>> Not a big deal but I'd prefer not to have to explain.  When I move the 
>>>> JDBC driver to the Tomcat lib directory, the error is no longer logged.  
>>>> (Tomcat 6)
>>> Even better would be to fix your probable connection leak.  I had some too, 
>>> when I went to a version that had the leak detection, but was able to fix 
>>> them all.
>>>
>>> D
>> Yup. Just deregister the DB driver on app stop using a ServletContexListener.
>>
>>
>> p
>
>
> Thanks.  I'll give that a try.  Wouldn't I see a connection leak no matter 
> where I placed the driver?

Only if you're not returning / cleaning up connection objects properly.


> De-registering the driver may do the trick.

This addresses the driver leak & warning by Tomcat.


p


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Re: jdbc driver location in TC 7

2012-03-24 Thread Terence M. Bandoian

 On 1:59 PM, Pid * wrote:

On 23 Mar 2012, at 21:59, David Kerber  wrote:


On 3/23/2012 6:51 PM, Terence M. Bandoian wrote:

On 1:59 PM, David kerber wrote:

On 3/23/2012 11:19 AM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

From: David kerber [mailto:dcker...@verizon.net]
Subject: jdbc driver location in TC 7
Where is the recommended location for jdbc driver jars in TC7,
when I'm using separate CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE locations?

If you look in conf/catalina.properties, you'll see the order in which the 
common loader searches directories.


If it makes a difference, I am not using tomcat's connection
pooling; it's handled in my app.

That's a critical difference.


I generally would prefer to put it in my webapp's lib directory

That is the correct location, since Tomcat is not involved.

Great; thanks for confirming.

D


Hi, David-

I prefer the web app's lib directory as well but when I place the JDBC driver 
there, a memory leak detection error is logged when I stop Tomcat.  Not a big 
deal but I'd prefer not to have to explain.  When I move the JDBC driver to the 
Tomcat lib directory, the error is no longer logged.  (Tomcat 6)

Even better would be to fix your probable connection leak.  I had some too, 
when I went to a version that had the leak detection, but was able to fix them 
all.

D

Yup. Just deregister the DB driver on app stop using a ServletContexListener.


p



Thanks.  I'll give that a try.  Wouldn't I see a connection leak no 
matter where I placed the driver?  De-registering the driver may do the 
trick.


-Terence Bandoian


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Re: jdbc driver location in TC 7

2012-03-24 Thread Pid *
On 23 Mar 2012, at 21:59, David Kerber  wrote:

> On 3/23/2012 6:51 PM, Terence M. Bandoian wrote:
>> On 1:59 PM, David kerber wrote:
>>> On 3/23/2012 11:19 AM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
>>>>> From: David kerber [mailto:dcker...@verizon.net]
>>>>> Subject: jdbc driver location in TC 7
>>>>
>>>>> Where is the recommended location for jdbc driver jars in TC7,
>>>>> when I'm using separate CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE locations?
>>>>
>>>> If you look in conf/catalina.properties, you'll see the order in which the 
>>>> common loader searches directories.
>>>>
>>>>> If it makes a difference, I am not using tomcat's connection
>>>>> pooling; it's handled in my app.
>>>>
>>>> That's a critical difference.
>>>>
>>>>> I generally would prefer to put it in my webapp's lib directory
>>>>
>>>> That is the correct location, since Tomcat is not involved.
>>>
>>> Great; thanks for confirming.
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>
>> Hi, David-
>>
>> I prefer the web app's lib directory as well but when I place the JDBC 
>> driver there, a memory leak detection error is logged when I stop Tomcat.  
>> Not a big deal but I'd prefer not to have to explain.  When I move the JDBC 
>> driver to the Tomcat lib directory, the error is no longer logged.  (Tomcat 
>> 6)
>
> Even better would be to fix your probable connection leak.  I had some too, 
> when I went to a version that had the leak detection, but was able to fix 
> them all.
>
> D

Yup. Just deregister the DB driver on app stop using a ServletContexListener.


p

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Re: jdbc driver location in TC 7

2012-03-23 Thread David Kerber

On 3/23/2012 6:51 PM, Terence M. Bandoian wrote:

 On 1:59 PM, David kerber wrote:

On 3/23/2012 11:19 AM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

From: David kerber [mailto:dcker...@verizon.net]
Subject: jdbc driver location in TC 7



Where is the recommended location for jdbc driver jars in TC7,
when I'm using separate CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE locations?


If you look in conf/catalina.properties, you'll see the order in 
which the common loader searches directories.



If it makes a difference, I am not using tomcat's connection
pooling; it's handled in my app.


That's a critical difference.


I generally would prefer to put it in my webapp's lib directory


That is the correct location, since Tomcat is not involved.


Great; thanks for confirming.

D



Hi, David-

I prefer the web app's lib directory as well but when I place the JDBC 
driver there, a memory leak detection error is logged when I stop 
Tomcat.  Not a big deal but I'd prefer not to have to explain.  When I 
move the JDBC driver to the Tomcat lib directory, the error is no 
longer logged.  (Tomcat 6)


Even better would be to fix your probable connection leak.  I had some 
too, when I went to a version that had the leak detection, but was able 
to fix them all.


D





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Re: jdbc driver location in TC 7

2012-03-23 Thread Terence M. Bandoian

 On 1:59 PM, David kerber wrote:

On 3/23/2012 11:19 AM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

From: David kerber [mailto:dcker...@verizon.net]
Subject: jdbc driver location in TC 7



Where is the recommended location for jdbc driver jars in TC7,
when I'm using separate CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE locations?


If you look in conf/catalina.properties, you'll see the order in 
which the common loader searches directories.



If it makes a difference, I am not using tomcat's connection
pooling; it's handled in my app.


That's a critical difference.


I generally would prefer to put it in my webapp's lib directory


That is the correct location, since Tomcat is not involved.


Great; thanks for confirming.

D



Hi, David-

I prefer the web app's lib directory as well but when I place the JDBC 
driver there, a memory leak detection error is logged when I stop 
Tomcat.  Not a big deal but I'd prefer not to have to explain.  When I 
move the JDBC driver to the Tomcat lib directory, the error is no longer 
logged.  (Tomcat 6)


-Terence Bandoian


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Re: jdbc driver location in TC 7

2012-03-23 Thread David kerber

On 3/23/2012 11:19 AM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

From: David kerber [mailto:dcker...@verizon.net]
Subject: jdbc driver location in TC 7



Where is the recommended location for jdbc driver jars in TC7,
when I'm using separate CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE locations?


If you look in conf/catalina.properties, you'll see the order in which the 
common loader searches directories.


If it makes a difference, I am not using tomcat's connection
pooling; it's handled in my app.


That's a critical difference.


I generally would prefer to put it in my webapp's lib directory


That is the correct location, since Tomcat is not involved.


Great; thanks for confirming.

D

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RE: jdbc driver location in TC 7

2012-03-23 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: David kerber [mailto:dcker...@verizon.net] 
> Subject: jdbc driver location in TC 7

> Where is the recommended location for jdbc driver jars in TC7,
> when I'm using separate CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE locations?

If you look in conf/catalina.properties, you'll see the order in which the 
common loader searches directories.

> If it makes a difference, I am not using tomcat's connection 
> pooling; it's handled in my app.

That's a critical difference.

> I generally would prefer to put it in my webapp's lib directory

That is the correct location, since Tomcat is not involved.

 - Chuck


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jdbc driver location in TC 7

2012-03-23 Thread David kerber

Kind of related to the upgrade issue I ran into yesterday:

Where is the recommended location for jdbc driver jars in TC7, when I'm 
using separate CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE locations?  If it makes a 
difference, I am not using tomcat's connection pooling; it's handled in 
my app.


I generally would prefer to put it in my webapp's lib directory, and it 
works from there, but are there other considerations I might not be 
taking into account?


Thanks!
Dave

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