Re: Is serialVersionUID really required?

2008-02-14 Thread Johan Compagner
not that importand
it is just easier to cluster over different jvms (which doesnt happen a lot)
but it is also easier to upgrade an existing code. Because the generated
serialVersionUID
does change for the most stupid ways (i guess they have to do that but most
of the time i don;t care if i added a method)

without the id serialization just breaks (can't deserialize) just way more
often

johan



On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Wang, Yuesong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 In theory, all Serializable classes should have a serialVersionUID, but
 to provide one to every annonymous inner class used everywhere in a
 Wicket app is just too much. So I decided to turn off that warning in
 Eclipse, and not to use serialVersionUID any more, but what is the
 implication? For example, will I run into any problem during
 deployment/undeployment? What about clustering?

 Thanks,

 Yuesong



RE: Is serialVersionUID really required?

2008-02-14 Thread Wang, Yuesong
Johan,

Thanks for the reply. Just need some further comfirmation.

Here is my scenario:
1) The app is packaged in a single war.
2) No distributed deployment - everything is on the app server (Tomcat
6.0).
3) Only user agent is web browser. No remote client (RMI, java web start
etc.).
4) Same JVM across all servers in cluster.
5) When deploying a new release, all servers will be
stopped/undeployed/deployed/started at the same time.

Is that enough to avoid potential serialization issues that may be
caused by not supplying serialVersionUID?

Yuesong

-Original Message-
From: Johan Compagner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:06 AM
To: users@wicket.apache.org
Subject: Re: Is serialVersionUID really required?

not that importand
it is just easier to cluster over different jvms (which doesnt happen a
lot) but it is also easier to upgrade an existing code. Because the
generated serialVersionUID does change for the most stupid ways (i guess
they have to do that but most of the time i don;t care if i added a
method)

without the id serialization just breaks (can't deserialize) just way
more often

johan



On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Wang, Yuesong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi,

 In theory, all Serializable classes should have a serialVersionUID, 
 but to provide one to every annonymous inner class used everywhere in 
 a Wicket app is just too much. So I decided to turn off that warning 
 in Eclipse, and not to use serialVersionUID any more, but what is the 
 implication? For example, will I run into any problem during 
 deployment/undeployment? What about clustering?

 Thanks,

 Yuesong


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Re: Is serialVersionUID really required?

2008-02-14 Thread Johan Compagner
if you redeploy a new version
where you did some changes in components that would now generate another id
then the sessions that are on disk cant be loaded anymore
so you loose your sessions

if you had an id. And you dont change it because you want to be able to
deserialize
because you dont added a field or what ever and you know that the
deseralized object
works perfectly with the new object then it can be loaded in and you wont
loose sessions

johan



On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Wang, Yuesong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Johan,

 Thanks for the reply. Just need some further comfirmation.

 Here is my scenario:
 1) The app is packaged in a single war.
 2) No distributed deployment - everything is on the app server (Tomcat
 6.0).
 3) Only user agent is web browser. No remote client (RMI, java web start
 etc.).
 4) Same JVM across all servers in cluster.
 5) When deploying a new release, all servers will be
 stopped/undeployed/deployed/started at the same time.

 Is that enough to avoid potential serialization issues that may be
 caused by not supplying serialVersionUID?

 Yuesong

 -Original Message-
 From: Johan Compagner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:06 AM
 To: users@wicket.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Is serialVersionUID really required?

 not that importand
 it is just easier to cluster over different jvms (which doesnt happen a
 lot) but it is also easier to upgrade an existing code. Because the
 generated serialVersionUID does change for the most stupid ways (i guess
 they have to do that but most of the time i don;t care if i added a
 method)

 without the id serialization just breaks (can't deserialize) just way
 more often

 johan



 On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Wang, Yuesong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Hi,
 
  In theory, all Serializable classes should have a serialVersionUID,
  but to provide one to every annonymous inner class used everywhere in
  a Wicket app is just too much. So I decided to turn off that warning
  in Eclipse, and not to use serialVersionUID any more, but what is the
  implication? For example, will I run into any problem during
  deployment/undeployment? What about clustering?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Yuesong
 

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