Re: [vchkpw] using SpamAssassin on a per user basis with qmail
~vpopmail/domains/example.com/user/.qmail Is this what you are asking? Yes ;) -- Nick Lomonte Network Engineer Eonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 409.833.1700
Re: [vchkpw] using SpamAssassin on a per user basis with qmail
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 14:34, Cory Wright wrote: |spamc | /var/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' /var/vpopmail/domains/example.com/user/ This works good, is there a way to do this in a .qmail file in the user's home dir? -- Nick Lomonte Network Engineer Eonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 409.833.1700
Re: [vchkpw] using SpamAssassin on a per user basis with qmail
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 03:49:43PM -0600, Nick Lomonte wrote: On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 14:34, Cory Wright wrote: |spamc | /var/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' /var/vpopmail/domains/example.com/user/ This works good, is there a way to do this in a .qmail file in the user's home dir? Sure, I use the following on my account: |spamc |maildir ./Maildir/ The 'maildir' command is from the safecat package by Len Budney: http://www.nb.net/~lbudney/linux/software/safecat.html Cory -- Cory Wright Stand Blue Technology http://www.standblue.net/
Re: [vchkpw] using SpamAssassin on a per user basis with qmail
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 03:49:43PM -0600, Nick Lomonte wrote: This works good, is there a way to do this in a .qmail file in the user's home dir? It just occured to me that you might mean the virtual users's vpopmail home directory. ~vpopmail/domains/example.com/user/.qmail Is this what you are asking? Cory -- Cory Wright Stand Blue Technology http://www.standblue.net/
Re: [vchkpw] using SpamAssassin on a per user basis with qmail
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 01:48:59PM -0500, Brendan McAlpine wrote: Is it possible to use SA on a per user basis within qmail? Sure. I know how to set up SA on a per domain basis, but not all users in the domain I am setting up want spamassassin. Is there a way to call spamc from a .qmail file within an individual user's directory? I have a setup like the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - /var/vpopmail/domains/example.com/user Then, in /var/vpopmail/domains/example.com/.qmail-user: |spamc | /var/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' /var/vpopmail/domains/example.com/user/ If you dont user spamc/spamd then you can do something similar with the `spamassassin` command. Cory
Re: [vchkpw] using SpamAssassin on a per user basis with qmail
I tried this way, but it didn't work for me for some reason. Here is how I got it to work a little while ago 1. install Safecat (http://www.nb.net/~lbudney/linux/software/safecat.html) 2. edit your mailbox's .qmail file to look like this: | /usr/bin/spamc -u vpopmail | maildir /path/to/your/maildir Done. It wasn't hard to implement once I dug around for about an hour and a half and found the solution and obviously this isn't compatible with qmailadmin. The first time you go into qmailadmin and muck around with forwarding, etc. it will overwrite the .qmail file. Brendan On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 03:34 PM, Cory Wright wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 01:48:59PM -0500, Brendan McAlpine wrote: Is it possible to use SA on a per user basis within qmail? Sure. I know how to set up SA on a per domain basis, but not all users in the domain I am setting up want spamassassin. Is there a way to call spamc from a .qmail file within an individual user's directory? I have a setup like the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - /var/vpopmail/domains/example.com/user Then, in /var/vpopmail/domains/example.com/.qmail-user: |spamc | /var/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' /var/vpopmail/domains/example.com/user/ If you dont user spamc/spamd then you can do something similar with the `spamassassin` command. Cory
Re: [vchkpw] using SpamAssassin on a per user basis with qmail
Is there any way around the quota issue that you've found? That is a big problem. Brendan On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 04:49 PM, Cory Wright wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 04:43:28PM -0500, Brendan McAlpine wrote: 1. install Safecat (http://www.nb.net/~lbudney/linux/software/safecat.html) 2. edit your mailbox's .qmail file to look like this: | /usr/bin/spamc -u vpopmail | maildir /path/to/your/maildir Done. It wasn't hard to implement once I dug around for about an hour and a half and found the solution and obviously this isn't compatible with qmailadmin. The first time you go into qmailadmin and muck around with forwarding, etc. it will overwrite the .qmail file. It also wont take into account any quota limits that are set. Cory
Re: [vchkpw] using SpamAssassin on a per user basis with qmail
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 04:57:52PM -0500, Brendan McAlpine wrote: Is there any way around the quota issue that you've found? Well, the solution is to use vdelivermail. What was the problem that you ran into by using that? Cory
Re: [vchkpw] using SpamAssassin on a per user basis with qmail
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 at 12:35:26, Cory Wright wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 01:48:59PM -0500, Brendan McAlpine wrote: Is it possible to use SA on a per user basis within qmail? Sure. I know how to set up SA on a per domain basis, but not all users in the domain I am setting up want spamassassin. Is there a way to call spamc from a .qmail file within an individual user's directory? I have a setup like the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - /var/vpopmail/domains/example.com/user Then, in /var/vpopmail/domains/example.com/.qmail-user: |spamc | /var/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' /var/vpopmail/domains/example.com/user/ If you dont user spamc/spamd then you can do something similar with the `spamassassin` command. Cory Thanks for the great example! The other example I had seen used MySQL for authentication (I believe) eevn though I currently don't. I'll give this a try! Happy Thanksgiving! (If you celebrate the Holiday) Peace Tom ___ http://jawmail.org/
Re: [vchkpw] using SpamAssassin on a per user basis with qmail
Version 5.3.5 Brendan On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 05:19 PM, Cory Wright wrote: Brendan replied directory to me, I am sending this followup to the list. On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 05:10:25PM -0500, Brendan McAlpine wrote: Mail just disappeared when sent to my test mailbox. No error messages, no bounce, just vanished. What was the exact syntax you had for the .qmail file using vdelivermail again? |spamc | /var/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' /var/vpopmail/domains/example.com/user/ Which version of vpopmail are you using? I believe you need version 5.3.7 or newer and have it compiled with the --enable-make-seekable=y configure option (which is the default). Cory
Re: [vchkpw] using SpamAssassin on a per user basis with qmail
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 06:04:52PM -0500, Brendan McAlpine wrote: Version 5.3.5 Try upgrading to a newer 5.3.* release. I suspect this will fix the problem and you will be able to use the spamc - vdelivermail method. Cory
Re: [vchkpw] using spamassassin....
Do you use Spamassassin in conjunction with any other software or scripts, such as qmail-scanner, etc.? Can I just run Spamassassin on its own? Brendan On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 02:09 PM, Rick Macdougall wrote: Hi, We use it in .qmail-default for domains that want it and set the required_hits to 30. Users can then manage required_hits, white list, black list etc via a PHP web page. Regards, Rick - Original Message - From: Brendan McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:03 PM Subject: [vchkpw] using spamassassin Can anyone point me in the right direction for any resources regarding installing and using spamassassin with qmail? Basically I want to be able to use spamassassin on certain mailboxes and not others on the system, and be able to add the ability to use the filtering as new accounts are added. TIA Brendan
RE: [vchkpw] using spamassassin....
I run spamassassin with qmail-scanner and I LOVE THE COMBO.. Install Spamassassin And configure the local.cf and then install qmail-scanner and it will find it and Call it to check email not procmail config files or anything like that.. I love it! -John -Original Message- From: Brendan McAlpine [mailto:bmcalpine;macconnect.com] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 9:51 AM To: Rick Macdougall Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [vchkpw] using spamassassin Do you use Spamassassin in conjunction with any other software or scripts, such as qmail-scanner, etc.? Can I just run Spamassassin on its own? Brendan On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 02:09 PM, Rick Macdougall wrote: Hi, We use it in .qmail-default for domains that want it and set the required_hits to 30. Users can then manage required_hits, white list, black list etc via a PHP web page. Regards, Rick - Original Message - From: Brendan McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:03 PM Subject: [vchkpw] using spamassassin Can anyone point me in the right direction for any resources regarding installing and using spamassassin with qmail? Basically I want to be able to use spamassassin on certain mailboxes and not others on the system, and be able to add the ability to use the filtering as new accounts are added. TIA Brendan
Re: [vchkpw] using spamassassin....
Hi, I personally run it right from .qmail-default with no extra settings like qmail-scanner.pl etc. I used to run it from qmail-scanner.pl but the over head was just too much considering I do smtp forwarding for some domains, other domains didn't want it, etc etc. Right now I can configure it for each domain seperately and I remove the overhead of scanning each and every message that comes into our system. As well, running it from qmail-scanner.pl loses the ability to do per user config's. Something our users really wanted. Regards, Rick - Original Message - From: Brendan McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rick Macdougall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] using spamassassin Do you use Spamassassin in conjunction with any other software or scripts, such as qmail-scanner, etc.? Can I just run Spamassassin on its own? Brendan On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 02:09 PM, Rick Macdougall wrote: Hi, We use it in .qmail-default for domains that want it and set the required_hits to 30. Users can then manage required_hits, white list, black list etc via a PHP web page. Regards, Rick - Original Message - From: Brendan McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:03 PM Subject: [vchkpw] using spamassassin Can anyone point me in the right direction for any resources regarding installing and using spamassassin with qmail? Basically I want to be able to use spamassassin on certain mailboxes and not others on the system, and be able to add the ability to use the filtering as new accounts are added. TIA Brendan
Re: [vchkpw] using spamassassin....
I do NOT want to scan each and every message that comes in. I want to set this up on a per user basis. Is it straightforward to have spamassassin scan email for an individual user rather than by domain? Brendan On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 01:00 PM, Rick Macdougall wrote: Hi, I personally run it right from .qmail-default with no extra settings like qmail-scanner.pl etc. I used to run it from qmail-scanner.pl but the over head was just too much considering I do smtp forwarding for some domains, other domains didn't want it, etc etc. Right now I can configure it for each domain seperately and I remove the overhead of scanning each and every message that comes into our system. As well, running it from qmail-scanner.pl loses the ability to do per user config's. Something our users really wanted. Regards, Rick - Original Message - From: Brendan McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rick Macdougall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] using spamassassin Do you use Spamassassin in conjunction with any other software or scripts, such as qmail-scanner, etc.? Can I just run Spamassassin on its own? Brendan On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 02:09 PM, Rick Macdougall wrote: Hi, We use it in .qmail-default for domains that want it and set the required_hits to 30. Users can then manage required_hits, white list, black list etc via a PHP web page. Regards, Rick - Original Message - From: Brendan McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:03 PM Subject: [vchkpw] using spamassassin Can anyone point me in the right direction for any resources regarding installing and using spamassassin with qmail? Basically I want to be able to use spamassassin on certain mailboxes and not others on the system, and be able to add the ability to use the filtering as new accounts are added. TIA Brendan
Re: [vchkpw] using spamassassin....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Said Rick Macdougall on Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 01:00:57PM -0500: I personally run it right from .qmail-default with no extra settings like qmail-scanner.pl etc. I used to run it from qmail-scanner.pl but the over head was just too much considering I do smtp forwarding for some domains, other domains didn't want it, etc etc. Right now I can configure it for each domain seperately and I remove the overhead of scanning each and every message that comes into our system. As well, running it from qmail-scanner.pl loses the ability to do per user config's. Something our users really wanted. So you just do something like run 'spamc -C /path/to/conf/file' in the .qmail-default files? And you said that you have a web frontend for it? Care to share any code? ;-) - -- [!] Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Encrypted email preferred (key 0xC9C40C31) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE90+ko94d6K8nEDDERAqZ1AJ91e1Xo5lxcgcOk9hFqLbaCFhOvjgCgiKjC s0z/jWNhqCz1GTbpl2FiwMg= =XuRH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [vchkpw] using spamassassin....
Hi Rick: Does this work in conjunction with qmailadmin? I thought qmailadmin overwrote the entries in qmail-default. Best Regards, Jeff Koch -- On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Rick Macdougall wrote: Hi, I personally run it right from .qmail-default with no extra settings like qmail-scanner.pl etc. I used to run it from qmail-scanner.pl but the over head was just too much considering I do smtp forwarding for some domains, other domains didn't want it, etc etc. Right now I can configure it for each domain seperately and I remove the overhead of scanning each and every message that comes into our system. As well, running it from qmail-scanner.pl loses the ability to do per user config's. Something our users really wanted. Regards, Rick - Original Message - From: Brendan McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rick Macdougall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] using spamassassin Do you use Spamassassin in conjunction with any other software or scripts, such as qmail-scanner, etc.? Can I just run Spamassassin on its own? Brendan On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 02:09 PM, Rick Macdougall wrote: Hi, We use it in .qmail-default for domains that want it and set the required_hits to 30. Users can then manage required_hits, white list, black list etc via a PHP web page. Regards, Rick - Original Message - From: Brendan McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:03 PM Subject: [vchkpw] using spamassassin Can anyone point me in the right direction for any resources regarding installing and using spamassassin with qmail? Basically I want to be able to use spamassassin on certain mailboxes and not others on the system, and be able to add the ability to use the filtering as new accounts are added. TIA Brendan
RE: [vchkpw] using spamassassin....
I would like to see this info as well... I am sure there is allways a better Way to do things so I have to check this out!! -John -Original Message- From: Justin R. Miller [mailto:incanus;codesorcery.net] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [vchkpw] using spamassassin -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Said Rick Macdougall on Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 01:00:57PM -0500: I personally run it right from .qmail-default with no extra settings like qmail-scanner.pl etc. I used to run it from qmail-scanner.pl but the over head was just too much considering I do smtp forwarding for some domains, other domains didn't want it, etc etc. Right now I can configure it for each domain seperately and I remove the overhead of scanning each and every message that comes into our system. As well, running it from qmail-scanner.pl loses the ability to do per user config's. Something our users really wanted. So you just do something like run 'spamc -C /path/to/conf/file' in the .qmail-default files? And you said that you have a web frontend for it? Care to share any code? ;-) - -- [!] Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Encrypted email preferred (key 0xC9C40C31) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE90+ko94d6K8nEDDERAqZ1AJ91e1Xo5lxcgcOk9hFqLbaCFhOvjgCgiKjC s0z/jWNhqCz1GTbpl2FiwMg= =XuRH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [vchkpw] using spamassassin....
My my, so many questions :) I'm going to answer them all in one email to reduce the noise on the list. 1 - Not easy to run it on a per user basis but you can by running it in their own .qmail file in their directory. You could do it manually, or hack qmailadmin to add the code itself to the .qmail file. 2 - No, it currently doesn't work in conjunction with qmailadmin. If the administrator of the domain changes the catch-all options it would get over written. I'll look into patching qmail to give the admin the option of adding it or someone else can. I'm kinda busy with other stuff right now, so a patch to qmailadmin is near the bottom of my list. 3 - I use spamc -F -u $EXT$HOST to call spamassassin. That makes spamd look at a MySQL database for user preferences to over ride the default. We currently set required_hits to 30 by default and allow the user to turn on better filtering if the so desire by a web page using phpsa.php. That can be found at http://www.spamassassin.org/devel/ Nothing really tricky to it. For those who wish, my exact syntax in the qmail-default file is | preline /usr/bin/spamc -f -u $EXT$HOST | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox Regards to all, Rick
Re: [vchkpw] using spamassassin....
What would be the best syntax to have in the .qmail-default file to just filter the emails for the domain through spamassassin? On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 01:29 PM, Rick Macdougall wrote: My my, so many questions :) I'm going to answer them all in one email to reduce the noise on the list. 1 - Not easy to run it on a per user basis but you can by running it in their own .qmail file in their directory. You could do it manually, or hack qmailadmin to add the code itself to the .qmail file. 2 - No, it currently doesn't work in conjunction with qmailadmin. If the administrator of the domain changes the catch-all options it would get over written. I'll look into patching qmail to give the admin the option of adding it or someone else can. I'm kinda busy with other stuff right now, so a patch to qmailadmin is near the bottom of my list. 3 - I use spamc -F -u $EXT$HOST to call spamassassin. That makes spamd look at a MySQL database for user preferences to over ride the default. We currently set required_hits to 30 by default and allow the user to turn on better filtering if the so desire by a web page using phpsa.php. That can be found at http://www.spamassassin.org/devel/ Nothing really tricky to it. For those who wish, my exact syntax in the qmail-default file is | preline /usr/bin/spamc -f -u $EXT$HOST | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox Regards to all, Rick
Re: [vchkpw] using spamassassin....
Hi, We use it in .qmail-default for domains that want it and set the required_hits to 30. Users can then manage required_hits, white list, black list etc via a PHP web page. Regards, Rick - Original Message - From: Brendan McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:03 PM Subject: [vchkpw] using spamassassin Can anyone point me in the right direction for any resources regarding installing and using spamassassin with qmail? Basically I want to be able to use spamassassin on certain mailboxes and not others on the system, and be able to add the ability to use the filtering as new accounts are added. TIA Brendan
RE: [vchkpw] using spamassassin....
http://www.jerfu.com/toaster -Original Message- From: Brendan McAlpine [mailto:bmcalpine;macconnect.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [vchkpw] using spamassassin Can anyone point me in the right direction for any resources regarding installing and using spamassassin with qmail? Basically I want to be able to use spamassassin on certain mailboxes and not others on the system, and be able to add the ability to use the filtering as new accounts are added. TIA Brendan
Re: [vchkpw] using spamassassin....
I forgot to mention that I am running FreeBSD 4.3. Brendan On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 02:22 PM, Clayton Weise wrote: http://www.jerfu.com/toaster -Original Message- From: Brendan McAlpine [mailto:bmcalpine;macconnect.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [vchkpw] using spamassassin Can anyone point me in the right direction for any resources regarding installing and using spamassassin with qmail? Basically I want to be able to use spamassassin on certain mailboxes and not others on the system, and be able to add the ability to use the filtering as new accounts are added. TIA Brendan
Re: [vchkpw] using spamassassin....
On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 11:22 AM, Brendan McAlpine wrote: I forgot to mention that I am running FreeBSD 4.3. Just check out the spamassasin and qmail-scanner docs. They are both detailed and good. Regards, Bill Shupp
