Re: [vdr] Using second tuner on TT S2-6400
On 02/08/12 00:22, Richard Scobie wrote: > I have just managed to get an S2-6400 based vdr sytem up and running and > am trying to work out how I can use the second tuner. > > Currently I have a diseqc switch with two dishes connected to tuner 1, > which works now I use the "-D 0" vdr option. > > I did think that adding "0:" to the top of diseqc.conf file would force > it to use the first tuner, but this does not work. > > In any case, if I add another dish to tuner 2, how do I inform vdr what > sources are available on it? > > I get the impression that a plugin may be required, but I can't see > anything suitable on the Wiki plugin page. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Regards, > > Richard The dvb card index in diseqc.conf is counted from 1, not from 0, so try change "0:" to "1:". For second tuner add "2:" before lines with sources connected to second tuner. BR, Ales ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Using second tuner on TT S2-6400
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:22:40 +1300 Richard Scobie wrote: > I have just managed to get an S2-6400 based vdr sytem up and running > and am trying to work out how I can use the second tuner. > > Currently I have a diseqc switch with two dishes connected to tuner > 1, which works now I use the "-D 0" vdr option. > > I did think that adding "0:" to the top of diseqc.conf file would > force it to use the first tuner, but this does not work. > > In any case, if I add another dish to tuner 2, how do I inform vdr > what sources are available on it? > > I get the impression that a plugin may be required, but I can't see > anything suitable on the Wiki plugin page. > > Any help would be appreciated. Usually you connect the same source to the second tuner (using multiswitch) or in case nothing like that exist you could use channelbonding, using both tuner at the same cable with some additional hardware for a few dollar. Having different sattelites on different tuners is a bit unusual, but possibly you could configure that by using the ca value in the channels.conf - or checking the dynamite plugin which resently got added something like that. I believe there has been recently posted some basic plugin which could be adapted to what you want as well. (would need to search for it) ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] xineliboutput and xine-ui not fitting together
On 08.02.2012 01:31, Darren Salt wrote: > I see that that's been uploaded. Which just leaves vdr-plugin-xine... Coming soon. I'm trying to backport libxine to Squeeze, but I'll probably give up and go ahead switching my VDR to Wheezy so I'm able to at least test it before uploading. Tobias ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] xineliboutput and xine-ui not fitting together
I demand that Tobi may or may not have written... > On 03.02.2012 16:22, Manfred Schmidt-Voigt wrote: >> working xineplugin (xineplug_inp_xvdr.so) for the xine-ui. xine-ui now ist >> based on libxine2 but the libxine1-xvdr plugin is based on libxine1 (as >> the name allready states). Are there any plans to create a debian package >> of the plugin which fits also to libxine2? > I'll upload a new package tonight. I see that that's been uploaded. Which just leaves vdr-plugin-xine... -- | _ | Darren Salt, using Debian GNU/Linux (and Android) | ( ) | | X | ASCII Ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail | / \ | http://www.asciiribbon.org/ The meek shall inherit the earth. They are too weak to refuse. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] Using second tuner on TT S2-6400
I have just managed to get an S2-6400 based vdr sytem up and running and am trying to work out how I can use the second tuner. Currently I have a diseqc switch with two dishes connected to tuner 1, which works now I use the "-D 0" vdr option. I did think that adding "0:" to the top of diseqc.conf file would force it to use the first tuner, but this does not work. In any case, if I add another dish to tuner 2, how do I inform vdr what sources are available on it? I get the impression that a plugin may be required, but I can't see anything suitable on the Wiki plugin page. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Richard ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice
On 8 February 2012 08:42, fnu wrote: > There was also no need to have an decoration manager to operate the old > softdevice-plugin (SD), id did just run on the old herringbone desktop ... ;-) And the source code license for softdevice allows you to rip that code out and add it to softhddevice. There's no better way to improve a project then to get involved. -- -Tor ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice
> You don't need a windows manager with xine/vdr-xine either, but according to > softhddevice own text, -f requires it. Well xorg alone would not work w/o any basic window management stuff, called it window manager or not, but bottomline it is one, included in pure xorg. If there wouldn't be a thing like this, you would not be able to open just a basic windows, like xterm. And you can do this, nowadays black on black instead of herringbone pattern, if you just install basic xorg with it's dependencies. There must be something which manages the size of the desktop, advise to open a window in a specific size on a defined position, or just fullscreen. All other stuff known as window manager just adds kind of decoration, widgets, buttons, a kind of configuration scripting etc. ... There was also no need to have an decoration manager to operate the old softdevice-plugin (SD), id did just run on the old herringbone desktop ... ;-) Regards fnu ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:21 PM, fnu wrote: >> -f start with fullscreen window (only with window manager) > > Hmm, AFAIK xorg does come with a build in window manager, I'm not 100% sure, > but I guess it's called "xwm". Xorg comes with a ton of useless dependencies. It's a complete waste when only xserver is needed. It's possible xorg comes with xwm but I'm certain that xserver doesn't. > This provides just basic window work and I did use just pure xorg over years > with the "softdevice" plugin. There was no need to install openbox, fluxbox > etc. You don't need a windows manager with xine/vdr-xine either, but according to softhddevice own text, -f requires it. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Gerald Dachs wrote: >> Thanks, I just send him a private message providing a link to this >> thread and asked that he read it when he has a few free minutes so I >> don't have to copy&paste. > > He told already in the vdr-portal that he wouldn't like to subscribe to this > list. Generally it might be better if you would have a little bit more work > doing cut&paste than the plugin author, because he is very busy working on > the plugin. There's a large non-german speaking VDR population that wouldn't know that because of the fact. I've noticed in the past that people at vdr-portal seem to get annoyed when someone asks them to repeat what they've already said in german, but again in english. :\ ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice
> -fstart with fullscreen window (only with window manager) Hmm, AFAIK xorg does come with a build in window manager, I'm not 100% sure, but I guess it's called "xwm". This provides just basic window work and I did use just pure xorg over years with the "softdevice" plugin. There was no need to install openbox, fluxbox etc. Regards fnu ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice
Don't worry just post in english, you'll get the answer also in english. Or feel free to open a new one in english, you will get answers in english ... ;-) Thanks, I just send him a private message providing a link to this thread and asked that he read it when he has a few free minutes so I don't have to copy&paste. He told already in the vdr-portal that he wouldn't like to subscribe to this list. Generally it might be better if you would have a little bit more work doing cut&paste than the plugin author, because he is very busy working on the plugin. Gerald ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:05 AM, fnu wrote: >> - I haven't figured out how to enter fullscreen mode. > > Well, AFAIK this is mentioned in the README. There are a couple of > switches/options for the plugin start, one of them is "-f" for full screen. > An other one is "-d" for the correct display and "-x" to start xorg by the > plugin. And no, there is no need for a display manager, I wonder where you > got this information ... most of us do test the plugin on existing Linux > desktop installtion, because there's quit a way to go ... >From "vdr -h": softhddevice (0.4.7) - A software and GPU emulated HD device -a device audio device (fe. alsa: hw:0,0 oss: /dev/dsp) -p device audio device (alsa only) for pass-through (hw:0,1) -d displaydisplay of x11 server (fe. :0.0) -fstart with fullscreen window (only with window manager) -g geometry x11 window geometry wxh+x+y -xstart x11 server -s start in suspended mode -w workaround enable/disable workarounds no-hw-decoder disable hw decoder, use software decoder only no-mpeg-hw-decoder disable hw decoder for mpeg only alsa-driver-broken disable broken alsa driver message See -f.. "only with window manager".. Also, with the -g option, what is "wxh+x+y" supposed to mean exactly? wxh(resolution?)+x(x position for top left corner of the window?)+y(y position of top left corner of the window?)...? That's just a guess -- it should be made more clear imo. Also, if softhddevice can start an xserver, it should be able to do it in fullscreen mode so I see no reason at all for windows manager requirement. Btw, most of the users I know don't use a Linux desktop, they have dedicated systems connected directly to their tv. I think it's good to consider at least the most common setups. > But VDPAU is IMHO closed to be ready for production use, but not VA-API or > even XvBA ... That's good news since I'm a VDPAU-only user. ;) I did want to build an i5-based VDR test box just for fun though so eventually I do plan on trying the other option. > Since author "johns" AFAIK isn't dealing with this mailing list, you could > place your questions here in this tread: > > http://www.vdr-portal.de/board17-developer/board21-vdr-plugins/109700-softhd > device-software-vdpau-va-api-cpu-decoder-und-ausgabe-plugin/?s=b83100f9ae841 > a9015a5769eb450a5611c1c7cb8 > > Don't worry just post in english, you'll get the answer also in english. Or > feel free to open a new one in english, you will get answers in english ... > ;-) Thanks, I just send him a private message providing a link to this thread and asked that he read it when he has a few free minutes so I don't have to copy&paste. I do see some promise with this plugin and it's _great_ that one finally exists which will offer different HW accelerated options, and not require xine-lib. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice
> - I haven't figured out how to enter fullscreen mode. Well, AFAIK this is mentioned in the README. There are a couple of switches/options for the plugin start, one of them is "-f" for full screen. An other one is "-d" for the correct display and "-x" to start xorg by the plugin. And no, there is no need for a display manager, I wonder where you got this information ... most of us do test the plugin on existing Linux desktop installtion, because there's quit a way to go ... But VDPAU is IMHO closed to be ready for production use, but not VA-API or even XvBA ... Since author "johns" AFAIK isn't dealing with this mailing list, you could place your questions here in this tread: http://www.vdr-portal.de/board17-developer/board21-vdr-plugins/109700-softhd device-software-vdpau-va-api-cpu-decoder-und-ausgabe-plugin/?s=b83100f9ae841 a9015a5769eb450a5611c1c7cb8 Don't worry just post in english, you'll get the answer also in english. Or feel free to open a new one in english, you will get answers in english ... ;-) Regards fnu ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:55 AM, fnu wrote: >> How about the new truecolor osd VDR has now? > > Well, you did ask regarding a "HD OSD" which isn't automatically a true > color OSD ... Sorry, I had two questions. 1) does it support HD resolution, and 2) does it support truecolor. I should have been more clear. Sounds like the answer is yes to both though. > Whereas AFAIK true color OSD is also possible with SD (576i) output, e.g. > xine/xineliboutput. The main problem, there isn't any real true color OSD > skin out there, to use it ... I've made several truecolor themes for yaepghd but bball (the author) never added support for it so I've been hoping for another option to use them. Do you know of any VDR skinning tutorial? Maybe my work can be used afterall. > But the skins I did test, looked impressive with softhddevice :-) I've now tried softhddevice and upon first impression, I like it! However, I do have some things to say... - I haven't figured out how to enter fullscreen mode. The README.txt does say you need a windows manager but that installs too much crap I don't need/want. Fullscreen mode should be possible _without_ a windows manager. - There's a lot of junk logging, such as: video: 23:29:31.541 +833 432 206/\ms 3 v-buf video: 23:29:31.541 +833 432 206/\ms 3 v-buf video: 23:29:31.561 +853 432 206/\ms 3 v-buf video: 23:29:31.561 +853 432 206/\ms 2 v-buf video: 23:29:31.581 +843 545 206/\ms 7 v-buf video: 23:29:31.581 +826 529 206/\ms 7 v-buf video: 23:29:31.601 +813 495 206/\ms 7 v-buf If this is useful for debugging or dev work, it should only be enabled with a debug switch or something, but spamming the log with info that appears useless to a regular user is bad behavior. - Helpful logging is missing. For example, I didn't see anything telling me I'm using VDPAU. I didn't see anything telling me what the current deinterlacer being used is. These types of infos _are_ useful imo and should be present in the log. - I didn't see an option to toggle between surround sound and surround-to-stereo mix anywhere. This is very useful to people who don't leave their receiver and surround sound speakers on 24/7. And also for people who watch channels with surround sound but only have stereo speakers. All our systems are minimal. All using VDPAU. All using audio+video over HDMI. No windows/desktop/etc, only xserver -> only because vdr-xine/xineliboutput/xine-lib need it to create video output. All systems are installed on usb stick or sdhc card. I'm not sure how (un)stable the plugin is yet but I'd like to continue using this plugin while it matures. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice
> How about the new truecolor osd VDR has now? Well, you did ask regarding a "HD OSD" which isn't automatically a true color OSD ... Whereas AFAIK true color OSD is also possible with SD (576i) output, e.g. xine/xineliboutput. The main problem, there isn't any real true color OSD skin out there, to use it ... But the skins I did test, looked impressive with softhddevice :-) Regards fnu ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:07 AM, fnu wrote: >> Does it support an HD osd? > > Where ist the difference? Plugin does support OSD size up to display > resolution ... How about the new truecolor osd VDR has now? ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice
> What's the url for this plugin? I would definitely like to try it! http://projects.vdr-developer.org/projects/plg-softhddevice > Does it also have a built-in media player? No, at the end the mplayer- and music-plugin will do this job > Does it support an HD osd? Where ist the difference? Plugin does support OSD size up to display resolution ... Cheers fnu ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice
What's the url for this plugin? I would definitely like to try it! Does it also have a built-in media player? Does it support an HD osd? I've always used xine-lib-1.2 vdpau + vdr-xine and the mplayer plugin for media playback. Then recently tried xineliboutput because it has a built-in media player. Thanks ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice
On 07/02/2012 11:21, Torgeir Veimo wrote: Does anyone have any experience with this plugin, and can offer some opinion on how it differs from the xineliboutput and xine plugin? - no use of libxine - decoding in the plugin (no client executable (yet?), no client/server, less buffers) - decoding with ffmpeg (vaapi/vdpau/..) - very young project still, first impressions of people: some things already working well, of course not ready for production yet Just following the discussion @vdr-portal.de , no own experience yet ... ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] SoftHDDevice
Does anyone have any experience with this plugin, and can offer some opinion on how it differs from the xineliboutput and xine plugin? -- -Tor ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
