Re: [vdr] TT Premium S2-6400
2011/6/5 Richard Scobie r.sco...@clear.net.nz Can anyone tell me if this includes YUV/RGB out, or just composite? There's both. Red, green, blue -- YUV and yellow, red, white -- Composite. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] TT Premium S2-6400
Looking at the data sheet for the new TT Premium S2-6400 hardware decoder card, it mentions a Video Breakout Cable for analog audio/video. Can anyone tell me if this includes YUV/RGB out, or just composite? Thanks, Richard ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] TT Premium S2-6400 (F?ley Istv?n)
Am 20.04.2011 23:33, schrieb VDR User: On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Udo Richter udo_rich...@gmx.de wrote: Thats probably because you need at least an 2GHz P4 to boot windows and a virus scanner nowadays. I seriously doubt virus scanners have anything to do with anything. That seems more trying to take a cheap jab at Windows then anything else. My work PC is an Core 1 Duo 1.8GHz running XP. The PC boots to desktop in roughly a minute, but is not usable for another 2 minutes due to high CPU and disk load by McAfee virus scanner. (I use SysInternals Process Explorer to monitor.) Also, every day at 10 I cannot do anything CPU or disk hungry for 1-2 minutes because McAfee does its signature update. You really notice that, even without the sudden increase in fan noise. Just recently I've upgraded the machine from 1.5Gb to 3Gb RAM with noticeable speed improvements. (Visual Studio 2010 is a huge memory hog!) Back when XP was released, it was working with 128Mb RAM, and was well equipped with 256Mb RAM. The OS is still the same... Cheers, Udo ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] TT Premium S2-6400 (F?ley Istv?n)
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Udo Richter udo_rich...@gmx.de wrote: Am 20.04.2011 23:33, schrieb VDR User: On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Udo Richter udo_rich...@gmx.de wrote: Thats probably because you need at least an 2GHz P4 to boot windows and a virus scanner nowadays. I seriously doubt virus scanners have anything to do with anything. That seems more trying to take a cheap jab at Windows then anything else. My work PC is an Core 1 Duo 1.8GHz running XP. The PC boots to desktop in roughly a minute, but is not usable for another 2 minutes due to high CPU and disk load by McAfee virus scanner. (I use SysInternals Process Explorer to monitor.) Also, every day at 10 I cannot do anything CPU or disk hungry for 1-2 minutes because McAfee does its signature update. You really notice that, even without the sudden increase in fan noise. Just recently I've upgraded the machine from 1.5Gb to 3Gb RAM with noticeable speed improvements. (Visual Studio 2010 is a huge memory hog!) Back when XP was released, it was working with 128Mb RAM, and was well equipped with 256Mb RAM. The OS is still the same... I can't believe a dvb card vendor sets their minimum requirements based on things such as McAfee loads. It would be absurd to do so. Btw, I used XP as well for many years. However, my boot times were never more then 30 secs. However, I've never bothered running virus scanners or anything like that unless I ran into an actual problem (10 times since win95), in which case I ran one and then exited the app - never left one running full-time. My XP boxes all had 1GB or 2GB or ram. XP + 2GB + VS6 worked great. I may have also used VS2005 at one point but not since then. Is VS2010 really that much of a resource hog?? ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] TT Premium S2-6400
On 2011.04.19. 20:18, Roland Behme wrote: There are no artifacts while zapping around. The picture turns black, returns and that's it. On 1080i channels there is sometimes a still picture for 0.5 seconds, but afterwards the picture gets fine again immediately. Zapping intervals are around 1-2s from HD to HD and below 1s from HD/SD to SD channels. Moving fast forward and backwards in recordings is working flawlessly including moving the cut-marks, sometimes there are a few block artifacts. All in all it feels 'rock stable'. The picture is upscaled to 1080i and looks much better than on eHD (Reel). Hope this helps. Best regards, Roland Thanks for this translation, this is exactly what I was looking for. (well, I can use google translate, but ...). So all I need to do is to wait for the card, as I preordered it about a year ago and it looks like, it will fits my needs. István ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] TT Premium S2-6400
On 20 April 2011 03:18, Roland Behme r...@nugman.de wrote: What I would like to know: with the new S2-6400 card does VDR works as rock solid as worked with FF DVB-S cards? This means for me: - OSD and remote are working instanly - even if I'm watching a HD playback, fast forward (and backward) works as expected - output device does not crash - I can leave the whole system to work for weeks and to be operated by my family, and it always will work as expected (as a VDR + FF DVB-S combo does) Well, it might be a little early to answer these questions thoroughly since the very first cards reached the end-users yesterday, but the first comments sound quite promising. According to this post[1] by spitzb, the card seems to work quite well. Here's a brief translation: Would be handy with a dual tuner DVB-T version. -- -Tor ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] TT Premium S2-6400
Anyone know if TT is planning to make cable version? At least Canal+ is sending in full HD (1920x1080p25) in cable here. I already ordered this S2 card just for output device as I'm using cable reception. I guess I need to patch VDR to disable recording with it but can it handle scaling from 1080p recording to its 1080i output? -- Kende ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] TT Premium S2-6400 (F?ley Istv?n)
This seems to be very promising ! I was a little bit surprised to see in the specifications that it needs a CPU minimum P4 2 Ghz. That is a pity, because it should be great if it could be used in a thinclient like the HP T5000 series with 1 Ghz and 1 Gb. Did anyone gave it a try ? thanks, SP I know that some of you (especially Klaus :) ) already own this card, as a few arrived to dvbshop. I'm asking you to share some experiences, as I hardly understand german discussions on vdrportal. Currently I'm having two VDR machines, one with DVB-S Premium + CRT TV, and another one with DVB-S2 budget + xine. What I would like to know: with the new S2-6400 card does VDR works as rock solid as worked with FF DVB-S cards? This means for me: - OSD and remote are working instanly - even if I'm watching a HD playback, fast forward (and backward) works as expected - output device does not crash - I can leave the whole system to work for weeks and to be operated by my family, and it always will work as expected (as a VDR + FF DVB-S combo does) thanks for your answers. Istvan -- Serge PECHER Director SDMO nv/sa Wijnegembaan 2 B-2900 Belgium T : +32 3 620 16 41 Mobile : +32 475 78 20 28 ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] TT Premium S2-6400 (F?ley Istv?n)
Am 20.04.2011 10:54, schrieb serge pecher: I was a little bit surprised to see in the specifications that it needs a CPU minimum P4 2 Ghz. Thats probably because you need at least an 2GHz P4 to boot windows and a virus scanner nowadays. The CPU and RAM demands should be not much higher than with an old SD FF card, as long as you only handle the encoded video stream like VDR does. The highest 'demand' is probably having an PCI Express socket already. (Not that PCI bandwidth wouldn't be enough either, but PCIE probably seemed more future proof and simpler.) Cheers, Udo ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] TT Premium S2-6400 (F?ley Istv?n)
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Udo Richter udo_rich...@gmx.de wrote: I was a little bit surprised to see in the specifications that it needs a CPU minimum P4 2 Ghz. Thats probably because you need at least an 2GHz P4 to boot windows and a virus scanner nowadays. The CPU and RAM demands should be not much higher than with an old SD FF card, as long as you only handle the encoded video stream like VDR does. The highest 'demand' is probably having an PCI Express socket already. (Not that PCI bandwidth wouldn't be enough either, but PCIE probably seemed more future proof and simpler.) I seriously doubt virus scanners have anything to do with anything. That seems more trying to take a cheap jab at Windows then anything else. Anyways, the requirements may be what they are because of what is actually offloaded to the decoder. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] TT Premium S2-6400 (F?ley Istv?n)
On 21 April 2011 07:33, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Udo Richter udo_rich...@gmx.de wrote: I was a little bit surprised to see in the specifications that it needs a CPU minimum P4 2 Ghz. Thats probably because you need at least an 2GHz P4 to boot windows and a virus scanner nowadays. Also, a 2GHz P4 is probably equal to a 1.2GHz pentium M. And then we're only talking single core. -- -Tor ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] TT Premium S2-6400
I know that some of you (especially Klaus :) ) already own this card, as a few arrived to dvbshop. I'm asking you to share some experiences, as I hardly understand german discussions on vdrportal. Currently I'm having two VDR machines, one with DVB-S Premium + CRT TV, and another one with DVB-S2 budget + xine. What I would like to know: with the new S2-6400 card does VDR works as rock solid as worked with FF DVB-S cards? This means for me: - OSD and remote are working instanly - even if I'm watching a HD playback, fast forward (and backward) works as expected - output device does not crash - I can leave the whole system to work for weeks and to be operated by my family, and it always will work as expected (as a VDR + FF DVB-S combo does) thanks for your answers. Istvan ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] TT Premium S2-6400
What I would like to know: with the new S2-6400 card does VDR works as rock solid as worked with FF DVB-S cards? This means for me: - OSD and remote are working instanly - even if I'm watching a HD playback, fast forward (and backward) works as expected - output device does not crash - I can leave the whole system to work for weeks and to be operated by my family, and it always will work as expected (as a VDR + FF DVB-S combo does) Well, it might be a little early to answer these questions thoroughly since the very first cards reached the end-users yesterday, but the first comments sound quite promising. According to this post[1] by spitzb, the card seems to work quite well. Here's a brief translation: There are no artifacts while zapping around. The picture turns black, returns and that's it. On 1080i channels there is sometimes a still picture for 0.5 seconds, but afterwards the picture gets fine again immediately. Zapping intervals are around 1-2s from HD to HD and below 1s from HD/SD to SD channels. Moving fast forward and backwards in recordings is working flawlessly including moving the cut-marks, sometimes there are a few block artifacts. All in all it feels 'rock stable'. The picture is upscaled to 1080i and looks much better than on eHD (Reel). Hope this helps. Best regards, Roland [1] http://www.vdr-portal.de/board16-video-disk-recorder/board85-hdtv-dvb-s2/p994614-technotrend-premium-s2-6400-dual-hd-technik-features-ank%C3%BCndigungen/#post994614 -- Military intelligence is to intelligence what military music is to music smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] TT Premium S2-6400
I just looked at the pdf on this card. Euro only as it only supports PAL. Also, I just got my new 32 TV in dec and noticed that most where 1080p. There where few new 1080i. The local TV dealer said companies are discontinuing 1080i. Many new TV's even upscale to 120 or 240 creating interpolated frames. This card only goes to 1080i. It's already outdated. On 4/19/2011 10:18 AM, Roland Behme wrote: What I would like to know: with the new S2-6400 card does VDR works as rock solid as worked with FF DVB-S cards? This means for me: - OSD and remote are working instanly - even if I'm watching a HD playback, fast forward (and backward) works as expected - output device does not crash - I can leave the whole system to work for weeks and to be operated by my family, and it always will work as expected (as a VDR + FF DVB-S combo does) Well, it might be a little early to answer these questions thoroughly since the very first cards reached the end-users yesterday, but the first comments sound quite promising. According to this post[1] by spitzb, the card seems to work quite well. Here's a brief translation: There are no artifacts while zapping around. The picture turns black, returns and that's it. On 1080i channels there is sometimes a still picture for 0.5 seconds, but afterwards the picture gets fine again immediately. Zapping intervals are around 1-2s from HD to HD and below 1s from HD/SD to SD channels. Moving fast forward and backwards in recordings is working flawlessly including moving the cut-marks, sometimes there are a few block artifacts. All in all it feels 'rock stable'. The picture is upscaled to 1080i and looks much better than on eHD (Reel). Hope this helps. Best regards, Roland [1] http://www.vdr-portal.de/board16-video-disk-recorder/board85-hdtv-dvb-s2/p994614-technotrend-premium-s2-6400-dual-hd-technik-features-ank%C3%BCndigungen/#post994614 ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] TT Premium S2-6400
Am Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:53:18 -0700 schrieb Timothy D. Lenz tl...@vorgon.com: I just looked at the pdf on this card. Euro only as it only supports PAL. Also, I just got my new 32 TV in dec and noticed that most where 1080p. There where few new 1080i. The local TV dealer said companies are discontinuing 1080i. Many new TV's even upscale to 120 or 240 creating interpolated frames. This card only goes to 1080i. It's already outdated. Totally nonsense, tell me where are the TV provider that sends 1080p? Gerald ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] TT Premium S2-6400
I just looked at the pdf on this card. Euro only as it only supports PAL. That's no problem for me as a euro resident ... Also, I just got my new 32 TV in dec and noticed that most where 1080p. There where few new 1080i. The local TV dealer said companies are discontinuing 1080i. The resolution your TV is capable of is irrelevant if no one is providing this resolution over satellite. At the moment there are no broadcasters sending 1080p. Some do 720p, some 1080i. The signal processor on the S2-6400 supports 1080p at 24/25/30 fps. As far as I read some TV broadcasters (e.g. BBC) are thinking about broadcasting in 1080p50, but this is nothing that comes around the corner next week. The S2-6400 will be capable of handling any signal that is sent all over Europe for the next couple of years. That's sufficient for me. If you want to buy something that lasts forever, you should rather buy a house, not computer hardware. Many new TV's even upscale to 120 or 240 creating interpolated frames. I cannot see why this should be an issue. Those TVs multiply the frame rate even when you connect a BD-player. This is done for a improving the image on fast movements. It has nothing to do with the incoming signal in any way. This card only goes to 1080i. It's already outdated. See above. Who cares? Regards, Roland -- I wish I had a dollar for every time I spent a dollar, because then, I'd have all my money back. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
