Re: [Veritas-bu] bpmedialist media missing after upgraded to NBU 6.0 MP4

2007-09-10 Thread ssloh
/usr/openv/volmgr/bin/vmglob -get_gdbhost return my master server name

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From: Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] bpmedialist media missing after upgraded to NBU 6.0 
MP4




On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Justin wrote
 Are your images still under /usr/openv/netbackup/db/images/* for the
 clients you rememeber being backed up?
 Did you have any errors during the nbpushdata -add?

 Thanks and replied to Justin
 Yes, my images still in /usr/openv/netbackup/db/images/* for the clients, 
 that is why I can restore data.
 But the volume is missing in #bpmedialist -h mediaserver1 and I realized my 
 data volume was used for subsequent backup which overwritten as new tape

 Blaine Robison wrote
 The media lists are all on the EMM server now. Try running bpmedialist on the 
 EMM server.

 Thanks and replied to Robison
 Yes, we run #bpmedialist -h mediaserver1 on EMM server, it only show the 
 latest backup volumes after the upgraded of this media server
 to 6.0, those volumes before the upgrade all missing.

 We had ran nbpushdata successfully on master server before we proceed to 
 upgrade this mediaserver1
 We have tried the #nbpushdata -add again on this mediaserver1 again
 mediaserver1#nbpushdata -add failed with error
 - no global device database hostname found in the EMM database
 - nbpushdata must be run on the global device db host first (??? ALREADY 
 DONE)
 - emm gdb host =
 - local host gdb host = masterservername (which is the EMM server as well)
 - error emm db recond no found (194)


 - nbpushdata must be run on the global device db host first (???
 ALREADY DONE)
You need to run nbpushdata -add on the master server first!!!

What does /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/vmglob -get_gdbhost say?  Does that
return your master server name?

Justin.

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[Veritas-bu] VMD Core Dump

2007-09-10 Thread Clooney, David
Morning all

 

5.1 MP5

 

This morning we had vmd core dump, which in turn filled up the root file
system. It was easy enough to get everything back to working order
however we would one begin to investigate why this happened.

 

I have checked all the obvious suspects . i.e bperror problems,
var/adm/messages etc, but haven't found much in any clues ?

 

Anyone got any suggestions?

 

Thanks

 

Dave




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[Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU

2007-09-10 Thread dy018

Hi, anyone having both VTL and DSU in your backup environment? or anyone here 
did a compare between the both?

I just need to know the Veritas Licenses cost for VTL and DSU if i want to 
implement a 20TB Disk Storage. Thanks

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.0MP4 media server in cluster (VCS)

2007-09-10 Thread Gregory Demilde
Selwyn,

We have two sunfire, PhysA  PhysB. cluster framwork is using those
two machines. We have created a vcs ressource group, Logical which
acts as media server.

The nbemmcmd -listhost gives the following output

master  Master
media   Master
app_cluster   Logical
cluster  Logical
media   PhysA
media   PhysB

All the STUs have PhysA or PhysB as media server. images are
automatically assigned to Logical. When trying a restore, I receive an
error 800 : host is unknown in EMM.

Would it be possible to have your output of the nbemmcmd -listhost and
tpconfig -d ?

TIA,
Greg

On 9/8/07, selwyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Forget using the device wizards, they just make a mess of the configuration.

 We are running Netbackup 6.0 MP4 on Solaris 10.  I set up all of the tape 
 drives using tpconfig.  I created a script that reads a map file to create 
 the tape devices.  I kept the device paths matched between both servers in 
 the cluster--though that does not appear to be necessary for the system to 
 work.

 I do not understand what you mean by physical names.  I do not use the names 
 of the drives at all when I set up storage units.  Can you elaborate?

 We have had no problems with restores.

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[Veritas-bu] Status 57 - Resolutions?

2007-09-10 Thread Brooks, Jason
I've been getting Status 57s on a host since we added it to the NBU 
environment.  Here's the setup:
Master server: Windows2K3, SP2 with NBU 6.0MP4
Client: Windows2K3 Enterprise, R2 SP2 with 6.0MP4 client

Anytime a backup is initiated, it ends with a 57.  Looking at the BPCD logs, 
here's what I see:

10:31:38.505 [3152.1472] 2 logconnections: BPCD ACCEPT FROM 
192.168.64.169.1952 TO 192.168.64.206.13724
10:31:38.505 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: setup_sockopts complete
10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd peer_hostname: Connection from host 
master.longwood.edu (192.168.64.169) port 1952
10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd valid_server: comparing master and 
master.longwood.edu
10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd valid_server: hostname comparison succeeded
10:31:38.708 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: output socket port number = 1
10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: Duplicated vnetd socket on stderr
10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main:  NetBackup 6.0 
0 initiated
10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: Not using VxSS authentication with 
master.longwood.edu
10:31:39.177 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
10:31:39.458 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_NB_VERSION_RQST
10:31:39.458 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Version string is NetBackup 6.0 
60C:\ProgramFiles\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin
10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_BE_VERSION_RQST
10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Backup Exec Config key not found.
10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Version string is NetBackup 6.0 
60C:\ProgramFiles\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin
10:31:39.942 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
10:31:40.271 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_READ_HOST_CONFIG_RQST
10:31:40.880 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
10:31:41.114 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_PRIVILEGES_RQST
10:31:41.427 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_PLATFORM_RQST
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_UNAME_RQST
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_SYSNAME = WindowsNET
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_NODENAME = CLIENT1
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_RELEASE = 5
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_VERSION = 2
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_MACHINE = Intel x86 - 
Unknown - Revision x403
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: END
10:31:41.989 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_DISCONNECT_RQST
10:31:41.989 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd exit_bpcd: exit status 
  ---exiting

By this, I can't see that it fails.  Is it dumping to another service and 
failing there?  The only other thing I have logging is bpbkar and vnetd, and 
there's nothing there.

I've retried with loglevel at 5, but still nothing.  The firewall isn't turned 
on on the client, so I'm at a loss.

Suggestions?

Thanks,
Jason


Jason Brooks
Computer Systems Engineer
IITS - Longwood University
voice - (434) 395-2034
fax - (434) 395-2035
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 57 - Resolutions?

2007-09-10 Thread Bobby Williams
Run bpclntcmd -pn on the client.

I would suspect that the client can't resolve the master.

Can you view the host properties via the GUI? 




Bobby Williams
2205 Peterson Drive
Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421
423-296-8200

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooks,
Jason
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:15 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Status 57 - Resolutions?

I've been getting Status 57s on a host since we added it to the NBU
environment.  Here's the setup:
Master server: Windows2K3, SP2 with NBU 6.0MP4
Client: Windows2K3 Enterprise, R2 SP2 with 6.0MP4 client

Anytime a backup is initiated, it ends with a 57.  Looking at the BPCD logs,
here's what I see:

10:31:38.505 [3152.1472] 2 logconnections: BPCD ACCEPT FROM
192.168.64.169.1952 TO 192.168.64.206.13724
10:31:38.505 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: setup_sockopts complete
10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd peer_hostname: Connection from host
master.longwood.edu (192.168.64.169) port 1952
10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd valid_server: comparing master and
master.longwood.edu
10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd valid_server: hostname comparison
succeeded
10:31:38.708 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: output socket port number = 1
10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: Duplicated vnetd socket on stderr
10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main:  NetBackup 6.0 0
initiated
10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: Not using VxSS authentication with
master.longwood.edu
10:31:39.177 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
10:31:39.458 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_NB_VERSION_RQST
10:31:39.458 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Version string is NetBackup 6.0
60C:\ProgramFiles\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin
10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_BE_VERSION_RQST
10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Backup Exec Config key not found.
10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Version string is NetBackup 6.0
60C:\ProgramFiles\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin
10:31:39.942 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
10:31:40.271 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_READ_HOST_CONFIG_RQST
10:31:40.880 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
10:31:41.114 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_PRIVILEGES_RQST
10:31:41.427 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_PLATFORM_RQST
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_UNAME_RQST
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_SYSNAME = WindowsNET
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_NODENAME = CLIENT1
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_RELEASE = 5
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_VERSION = 2
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_MACHINE = Intel x86 -
Unknown - Revision x403
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: END
10:31:41.989 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_DISCONNECT_RQST
10:31:41.989 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd exit_bpcd: exit status
  ---exiting

By this, I can't see that it fails.  Is it dumping to another service and
failing there?  The only other thing I have logging is bpbkar and vnetd, and
there's nothing there.

I've retried with loglevel at 5, but still nothing.  The firewall isn't
turned on on the client, so I'm at a loss.

Suggestions?

Thanks,
Jason


Jason Brooks
Computer Systems Engineer
IITS - Longwood University
voice - (434) 395-2034
fax - (434) 395-2035
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 57 - Resolutions?

2007-09-10 Thread Blaine Robison
Did You try running bptestbpcd to determine if the ports were open? 

--- Brooks, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've ran that with success.  The host can resolve the master and they're on
 the same subnet.  For the Windows folks, the client is in a child domain of
 the master.  None of the troubleshooting steps for the 57s have produced
 anything - i.e., all the steps have succeeded.  That's why I'm wondering
 about the next step, which I thought was bpbkar, but produced no logs at
 all. 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
  Of Bobby Williams
  Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:22 AM
  To: Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
  Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 57 - Resolutions?
  
  Run bpclntcmd -pn on the client.
  
  I would suspect that the client can't resolve the master.
  
  Can you view the host properties via the GUI?
  
  
  
  
  Bobby Williams
  2205 Peterson Drive
  Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421
  423-296-8200
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
  Of Brooks, Jason
  Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:15 AM
  To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
  Subject: [Veritas-bu] Status 57 - Resolutions?
  
  I've been getting Status 57s on a host since we added it to 
  the NBU environment.  Here's the setup:
  Master server: Windows2K3, SP2 with NBU 6.0MP4
  Client: Windows2K3 Enterprise, R2 SP2 with 6.0MP4 client
  
  Anytime a backup is initiated, it ends with a 57.  Looking at 
  the BPCD logs, here's what I see:
  
  10:31:38.505 [3152.1472] 2 logconnections: BPCD ACCEPT FROM
  192.168.64.169.1952 TO 192.168.64.206.13724
  10:31:38.505 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: setup_sockopts complete
  10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd peer_hostname: Connection 
  from host master.longwood.edu (192.168.64.169) port 1952
  10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd valid_server: comparing 
  master and master.longwood.edu
  10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd valid_server: hostname 
  comparison succeeded
  10:31:38.708 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: output socket port number = 1
  10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: Duplicated vnetd 
  socket on stderr
  10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main:  NetBackup 6.0 0 
  initiated
  10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: Not using VxSS 
  authentication with master.longwood.edu
  10:31:39.177 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
  10:31:39.458 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_NB_VERSION_RQST
  10:31:39.458 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Version string is 
  NetBackup 6.0
  60C:\ProgramFiles\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin
  10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_BE_VERSION_RQST
  10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Backup Exec Config 
  key not found.
  10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Version string is 
  NetBackup 6.0
  60C:\ProgramFiles\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin
  10:31:39.942 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
  10:31:40.271 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: 
  BPCD_READ_HOST_CONFIG_RQST 10:31:40.880 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd 
  main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
  10:31:41.114 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_PRIVILEGES_RQST
  10:31:41.427 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_PLATFORM_RQST
  10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_UNAME_RQST
  10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_SYSNAME = WindowsNET
  10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_NODENAME = CLIENT1
  10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_RELEASE = 5
  10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_VERSION = 2
  10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_MACHINE = 
  Intel x86 - Unknown - Revision x403
  10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: END
  10:31:41.989 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_DISCONNECT_RQST
  10:31:41.989 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd exit_bpcd: exit status
---exiting
  
  By this, I can't see that it fails.  Is it dumping to another 
  service and failing there?  The only other thing I have 
  logging is bpbkar and vnetd, and there's nothing there.
  
  I've retried with loglevel at 5, but still nothing.  The 
  firewall isn't turned on on the client, so I'm at a loss.
  
  Suggestions?
  
  Thanks,
  Jason
  
  
  Jason Brooks
  Computer Systems Engineer
  IITS - Longwood University
  voice - (434) 395-2034
  fax - (434) 395-2035
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 57 - Resolutions?

2007-09-10 Thread Hall, Christian N.
Jason, 

Also, make sure the source IP address of the client is recognizable by
the master. I have seen in some cases where a multi-home hosts is
routing BP traffic from an interface not recognized by the master What
about a tool similar to tcpdump, or snoop to examine your traffic?  

Thanks,
Chris Hall
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blaine
Robison
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:03 PM
To: Brooks, Jason; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 57 - Resolutions?

Did You try running bptestbpcd to determine if the ports were open? 

--- Brooks, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've ran that with success.  The host can resolve the master and
they're on
 the same subnet.  For the Windows folks, the client is in a child
domain of
 the master.  None of the troubleshooting steps for the 57s have
produced
 anything - i.e., all the steps have succeeded.  That's why I'm
wondering
 about the next step, which I thought was bpbkar, but produced no logs
at
 all. 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
  Of Bobby Williams
  Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:22 AM
  To: Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
  Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 57 - Resolutions?
  
  Run bpclntcmd -pn on the client.
  
  I would suspect that the client can't resolve the master.
  
  Can you view the host properties via the GUI?
  
  
  
  
  Bobby Williams
  2205 Peterson Drive
  Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421
  423-296-8200
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
  Of Brooks, Jason
  Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:15 AM
  To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
  Subject: [Veritas-bu] Status 57 - Resolutions?
  
  I've been getting Status 57s on a host since we added it to 
  the NBU environment.  Here's the setup:
  Master server: Windows2K3, SP2 with NBU 6.0MP4
  Client: Windows2K3 Enterprise, R2 SP2 with 6.0MP4 client
  
  Anytime a backup is initiated, it ends with a 57.  Looking at 
  the BPCD logs, here's what I see:
  
  10:31:38.505 [3152.1472] 2 logconnections: BPCD ACCEPT FROM
  192.168.64.169.1952 TO 192.168.64.206.13724
  10:31:38.505 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: setup_sockopts complete
  10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd peer_hostname: Connection 
  from host master.longwood.edu (192.168.64.169) port 1952
  10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd valid_server: comparing 
  master and master.longwood.edu
  10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd valid_server: hostname 
  comparison succeeded
  10:31:38.708 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: output socket port number =
1
  10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: Duplicated vnetd 
  socket on stderr
  10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main:  NetBackup 6.0 0 
  initiated
  10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: Not using VxSS 
  authentication with master.longwood.edu
  10:31:39.177 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
  10:31:39.458 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_NB_VERSION_RQST
  10:31:39.458 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Version string is 
  NetBackup 6.0
  60C:\ProgramFiles\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin
  10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_BE_VERSION_RQST
  10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Backup Exec Config 
  key not found.
  10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Version string is 
  NetBackup 6.0
  60C:\ProgramFiles\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin
  10:31:39.942 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
  10:31:40.271 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: 
  BPCD_READ_HOST_CONFIG_RQST 10:31:40.880 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd 
  main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
  10:31:41.114 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_PRIVILEGES_RQST
  10:31:41.427 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_PLATFORM_RQST
  10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_UNAME_RQST
  10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_SYSNAME =
WindowsNET
  10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_NODENAME = CLIENT1
  10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_RELEASE = 5
  10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_VERSION = 2
  10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_MACHINE = 
  Intel x86 - Unknown - Revision x403
  10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: END
  10:31:41.989 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_DISCONNECT_RQST
  10:31:41.989 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd exit_bpcd: exit status
---exiting
  
  By this, I can't see that it fails.  Is it dumping to another 
  service and failing there?  The only other thing I have 
  logging is bpbkar and vnetd, and there's nothing there.
  
  I've retried with loglevel at 5, but still nothing.  The 
  firewall isn't turned on on the client, so I'm at a loss.
  
  Suggestions?
  
  Thanks,
  Jason
  
  
  Jason Brooks
  Computer Systems Engineer
  IITS - Longwood University
  voice - (434) 395-2034
  fax - (434) 395-2035
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 57 - Resolutions?

2007-09-10 Thread Patrick
I assume from your email that the master is also the media server. Have you
tried telnet client | master bpcd from both ends. If you run bpgetconfig
-M client from the master what are the results?

If the master is not the media server can the client see it and vise versa?

Regards,

Patrick Whelan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooks,
Jason
Sent: 10 September 2007 16:15
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Status 57 - Resolutions?

I've been getting Status 57s on a host since we added it to the NBU
environment.  Here's the setup:
Master server: Windows2K3, SP2 with NBU 6.0MP4
Client: Windows2K3 Enterprise, R2 SP2 with 6.0MP4 client

Anytime a backup is initiated, it ends with a 57.  Looking at the BPCD logs,
here's what I see:

10:31:38.505 [3152.1472] 2 logconnections: BPCD ACCEPT FROM
192.168.64.169.1952 TO 192.168.64.206.13724
10:31:38.505 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: setup_sockopts complete
10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd peer_hostname: Connection from host
master.longwood.edu (192.168.64.169) port 1952
10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd valid_server: comparing master and
master.longwood.edu
10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd valid_server: hostname comparison
succeeded
10:31:38.708 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: output socket port number = 1
10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: Duplicated vnetd socket on stderr
10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main:  NetBackup 6.0 0
initiated
10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: Not using VxSS authentication with
master.longwood.edu
10:31:39.177 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
10:31:39.458 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_NB_VERSION_RQST
10:31:39.458 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Version string is NetBackup 6.0
60C:\ProgramFiles\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin
10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_BE_VERSION_RQST
10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Backup Exec Config key not found.
10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Version string is NetBackup 6.0
60C:\ProgramFiles\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin
10:31:39.942 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
10:31:40.271 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_READ_HOST_CONFIG_RQST
10:31:40.880 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
10:31:41.114 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_PRIVILEGES_RQST
10:31:41.427 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_PLATFORM_RQST
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_UNAME_RQST
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_SYSNAME = WindowsNET
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_NODENAME = CLIENT1
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_RELEASE = 5
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_VERSION = 2
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_MACHINE = Intel x86 -
Unknown - Revision x403
10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: END
10:31:41.989 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_DISCONNECT_RQST
10:31:41.989 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd exit_bpcd: exit status
  ---exiting

By this, I can't see that it fails.  Is it dumping to another service and
failing there?  The only other thing I have logging is bpbkar and vnetd, and
there's nothing there.

I've retried with loglevel at 5, but still nothing.  The firewall isn't
turned on on the client, so I'm at a loss.

Suggestions?

Thanks,
Jason


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Computer Systems Engineer
IITS - Longwood University
voice - (434) 395-2034
fax - (434) 395-2035
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 57 - Resolutions?

2007-09-10 Thread Brooks, Jason
The master is the media server.  Bpgetconfig -M master dumps the config.
Was there anything particular that I should look for?

I can telnet from client to master on bpcd fine, and vice versa.

Reinstall client?  That's about where I'm at now.

Jason 

 -Original Message-
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 Of Patrick
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:41 PM
 To: Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 57 - Resolutions?
 
 I assume from your email that the master is also the media 
 server. Have you tried telnet client | master bpcd from 
 both ends. If you run bpgetconfig -M client from the master 
 what are the results?
 
 If the master is not the media server can the client see it 
 and vise versa?
 
 Regards,
 
 Patrick Whelan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
 Of Brooks, Jason
 Sent: 10 September 2007 16:15
 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Status 57 - Resolutions?
 
 I've been getting Status 57s on a host since we added it to 
 the NBU environment.  Here's the setup:
 Master server: Windows2K3, SP2 with NBU 6.0MP4
 Client: Windows2K3 Enterprise, R2 SP2 with 6.0MP4 client
 
 Anytime a backup is initiated, it ends with a 57.  Looking at 
 the BPCD logs, here's what I see:
 
 10:31:38.505 [3152.1472] 2 logconnections: BPCD ACCEPT FROM
 192.168.64.169.1952 TO 192.168.64.206.13724
 10:31:38.505 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: setup_sockopts complete
 10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd peer_hostname: Connection 
 from host master.longwood.edu (192.168.64.169) port 1952
 10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd valid_server: comparing 
 master and master.longwood.edu
 10:31:38.521 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd valid_server: hostname 
 comparison succeeded
 10:31:38.708 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: output socket port number = 1
 10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: Duplicated vnetd 
 socket on stderr
 10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main:  NetBackup 6.0 0 
 initiated
 10:31:39.021 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: Not using VxSS 
 authentication with master.longwood.edu
 10:31:39.177 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
 10:31:39.458 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_NB_VERSION_RQST
 10:31:39.458 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Version string is 
 NetBackup 6.0
 60C:\ProgramFiles\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin
 10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_BE_VERSION_RQST
 10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Backup Exec Config 
 key not found.
 10:31:39.677 [3152.1472] 4 bpcd main: Version string is 
 NetBackup 6.0
 60C:\ProgramFiles\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin
 10:31:39.942 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
 10:31:40.271 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: 
 BPCD_READ_HOST_CONFIG_RQST 10:31:40.880 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd 
 main: BPCD_GET_VERSION_RQST
 10:31:41.114 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_PRIVILEGES_RQST
 10:31:41.427 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_PLATFORM_RQST
 10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_GET_UNAME_RQST
 10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_SYSNAME = WindowsNET
 10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_NODENAME = CLIENT1
 10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_RELEASE = 5
 10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_VERSION = 2
 10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: UNAME_MACHINE = 
 Intel x86 - Unknown - Revision x403
 10:31:41.755 [3152.1472] 2 getUnameInfo: END
 10:31:41.989 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd main: BPCD_DISCONNECT_RQST
 10:31:41.989 [3152.1472] 2 bpcd exit_bpcd: exit status
   ---exiting
 
 By this, I can't see that it fails.  Is it dumping to another 
 service and failing there?  The only other thing I have 
 logging is bpbkar and vnetd, and there's nothing there.
 
 I've retried with loglevel at 5, but still nothing.  The 
 firewall isn't turned on on the client, so I'm at a loss.
 
 Suggestions?
 
 Thanks,
 Jason
 
 
 Jason Brooks
 Computer Systems Engineer
 IITS - Longwood University
 voice - (434) 395-2034
 fax - (434) 395-2035
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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[Veritas-bu] Re: command to extract Activity Monitor Detailed Statusqu

2007-09-10 Thread kander04

Is that really true?  Seems like a huge lacuna in NBU command-line 
functionality!  Anybody have a workaround? 

Karl


Darren Dunham wrote:
 
 
 [stuffa deleta]
 
 The main problem (for me) is that there is no direct connection in any
 of the databases between a job and an image.  You can make the
 connection yourself based on job start time, client, and other info.  If
 you have an image, all the other tools can be used.  But only bpdbjobs
 can give you job info, and only until that job disappears from the job
 database.
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU

2007-09-10 Thread Kevin Whittaker
I have asked my account rep multiple times and been explained that I do
not have to license my VTL (EMC CDL720).  Since it is presented as a
real robot to the OS, then NetBackup has no clue that it is not a robot.

So, there is not always a cost for the VTL, depending on how you do the
setup.

Kevin

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU

6.5 uses a sliding capacity model. 1-20TB would be priced about same per
TB.
Above 20TB the discount gets greater.

Under Traditonal Model 6.5
$995 List per TB Usable Capacity NBU for VTL (VTO) 

$0 DSU Free
$995 List DSU per TB with NetBackup Flexible Disk Option(FDO) (Advanced
Disk and SharedDisk)

Enterprise Model 6.5
$11,995 List per FE Terabytes includes Vault,SSO,FDO,VTO,OSO,NAS
Snapvault,NDMP) Most every thing you will ever need.
FE Front End, basically the total of all your fulls. Minus all copies of
redundant data.


Netbackup 6.0
$1000 per TB VTL


Can't do NDMP to a DSU as far as I know.
Need Tape or VTL for NDMP.

Jim


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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU



Hi, anyone having both VTL and DSU in your backup environment? or anyone
here did a compare between the both?

I just need to know the Veritas Licenses cost for VTL and DSU if i want
to implement a 20TB Disk Storage. Thanks

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU

2007-09-10 Thread Paul Keating

This depends on your license.
We pay per tape drive, and you (apparantly) pay a flat rate regardless
of how many drives you have.

So, if your license is such that you are paying per drive, then there
may be a considerable difference between the licensing per drive, vs per
terabyte of usable storage, versus DSU (free?)

Paul

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 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
 
 
 I have asked my account rep multiple times and been explained 
 that I do
 not have to license my VTL (EMC CDL720).  Since it is presented as a
 real robot to the OS, then NetBackup has no clue that it is 
 not a robot.
 
 So, there is not always a cost for the VTL, depending on how 
 you do the
 setup.
 
 Kevin


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU

2007-09-10 Thread Kevin Whittaker
True, we do not have a limit to the number of tape drives.

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This depends on your license.
We pay per tape drive, and you (apparantly) pay a flat rate regardless of how 
many drives you have.

So, if your license is such that you are paying per drive, then there may be a 
considerable difference between the licensing per drive, vs per terabyte of 
usable storage, versus DSU (free?)

Paul

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 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
 
 
 I have asked my account rep multiple times and been explained that I 
 do not have to license my VTL (EMC CDL720).  Since it is presented as 
 a real robot to the OS, then NetBackup has no clue that it is not a 
 robot.
 
 So, there is not always a cost for the VTL, depending on how you do 
 the setup.
 
 Kevin


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU

2007-09-10 Thread Forester, Jack L
That's the opposite of what our Symantec rep and resellers told us.
We're getting 2 EDL4400s and are paying by the TB.  Not sure why
Symantec feels they're entitled to it, I think maybe Symantec has hired
some former RIAA execs.

Jack L. Forester, Jr.
UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf
Lockheed Martin Information Technology
(304) 625-3946

-Original Message-
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Whittaker
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 3:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU

I have asked my account rep multiple times and been explained that I do
not have to license my VTL (EMC CDL720).  Since it is presented as a
real robot to the OS, then NetBackup has no clue that it is not a robot.

So, there is not always a cost for the VTL, depending on how you do the
setup.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim
Horalek
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:34 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU

6.5 uses a sliding capacity model. 1-20TB would be priced about same per
TB.
Above 20TB the discount gets greater.

Under Traditonal Model 6.5
$995 List per TB Usable Capacity NBU for VTL (VTO) 

$0 DSU Free
$995 List DSU per TB with NetBackup Flexible Disk Option(FDO) (Advanced
Disk and SharedDisk)

Enterprise Model 6.5
$11,995 List per FE Terabytes includes Vault,SSO,FDO,VTO,OSO,NAS
Snapvault,NDMP) Most every thing you will ever need.
FE Front End, basically the total of all your fulls. Minus all copies of
redundant data.


Netbackup 6.0
$1000 per TB VTL


Can't do NDMP to a DSU as far as I know.
Need Tape or VTL for NDMP.

Jim


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Hi, anyone having both VTL and DSU in your backup environment? or anyone
here did a compare between the both?

I just need to know the Veritas Licenses cost for VTL and DSU if i want
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU

2007-09-10 Thread Curtis Preston
Your sales rep is saying the right thing (pay per TB) and the other
sales rep is off base (pay per drive).  I'm also saying don't shoot the
messenger, but any sales rep who is saying that a 6.x drive-based
license is valid for a VTL obviously hasn't read the licensing guide.

This is what happens when you have a 50-page+ pricing schema.

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VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

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Forester, Jack L
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:54 PM
To: Kevin Whittaker; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU

That's the opposite of what our Symantec rep and resellers told us.
We're getting 2 EDL4400s and are paying by the TB.  Not sure why
Symantec feels they're entitled to it, I think maybe Symantec has hired
some former RIAA execs.

Jack L. Forester, Jr.
UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf
Lockheed Martin Information Technology
(304) 625-3946

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Whittaker
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 3:18 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU

I have asked my account rep multiple times and been explained that I do
not have to license my VTL (EMC CDL720).  Since it is presented as a
real robot to the OS, then NetBackup has no clue that it is not a robot.

So, there is not always a cost for the VTL, depending on how you do the
setup.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim
Horalek
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:34 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU

6.5 uses a sliding capacity model. 1-20TB would be priced about same per
TB.
Above 20TB the discount gets greater.

Under Traditonal Model 6.5
$995 List per TB Usable Capacity NBU for VTL (VTO) 

$0 DSU Free
$995 List DSU per TB with NetBackup Flexible Disk Option(FDO) (Advanced
Disk and SharedDisk)

Enterprise Model 6.5
$11,995 List per FE Terabytes includes Vault,SSO,FDO,VTO,OSO,NAS
Snapvault,NDMP) Most every thing you will ever need.
FE Front End, basically the total of all your fulls. Minus all copies of
redundant data.


Netbackup 6.0
$1000 per TB VTL


Can't do NDMP to a DSU as far as I know.
Need Tape or VTL for NDMP.

Jim


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Hi, anyone having both VTL and DSU in your backup environment? or anyone
here did a compare between the both?

I just need to know the Veritas Licenses cost for VTL and DSU if i want
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU

2007-09-10 Thread Curtis Preston
So, the way I read this is that since you're going to want the advanced
stuff (as it's really cool), there is no longer ANY licensing pricing
advantage of DSUs over VTLs.

When you add de-dupe to this, a VTL is far cheaper now if it offers
de-dupe, even when you consider Symantec licensing.

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6.5 uses a sliding capacity model. 1-20TB would be priced about same per
TB.
Above 20TB the discount gets greater.

Under Traditonal Model 6.5
$995 List per TB Usable Capacity NBU for VTL (VTO) 

$0 DSU Free
$995 List DSU per TB with NetBackup Flexible Disk Option(FDO) (Advanced
Disk
and SharedDisk)

Enterprise Model 6.5
$11,995 List per FE Terabytes includes Vault,SSO,FDO,VTO,OSO,NAS
Snapvault,NDMP) Most every thing you will ever need.
FE Front End, basically the total of all your fulls. Minus all copies of
redundant data.


Netbackup 6.0
$1000 per TB VTL


Can't do NDMP to a DSU as far as I know.
Need Tape or VTL for NDMP.

Jim


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU

2007-09-10 Thread Justin Piszcz
Anyone here using a 10gigabit VTL/DSU unit?

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, Curtis Preston wrote:

 Your sales rep is saying the right thing (pay per TB) and the other
 sales rep is off base (pay per drive).  I'm also saying don't shoot the
 messenger, but any sales rep who is saying that a 6.x drive-based
 license is valid for a VTL obviously hasn't read the licensing guide.

 This is what happens when you have a 50-page+ pricing schema.

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 That's the opposite of what our Symantec rep and resellers told us.
 We're getting 2 EDL4400s and are paying by the TB.  Not sure why
 Symantec feels they're entitled to it, I think maybe Symantec has hired
 some former RIAA execs.

 Jack L. Forester, Jr.
 UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf
 Lockheed Martin Information Technology
 (304) 625-3946

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 I have asked my account rep multiple times and been explained that I do
 not have to license my VTL (EMC CDL720).  Since it is presented as a
 real robot to the OS, then NetBackup has no clue that it is not a robot.

 So, there is not always a cost for the VTL, depending on how you do the
 setup.

 Kevin

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 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:34 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU

 6.5 uses a sliding capacity model. 1-20TB would be priced about same per
 TB.
 Above 20TB the discount gets greater.

 Under Traditonal Model 6.5
 $995 List per TB Usable Capacity NBU for VTL (VTO)

 $0 DSU Free
 $995 List DSU per TB with NetBackup Flexible Disk Option(FDO) (Advanced
 Disk and SharedDisk)

 Enterprise Model 6.5
 $11,995 List per FE Terabytes includes Vault,SSO,FDO,VTO,OSO,NAS
 Snapvault,NDMP) Most every thing you will ever need.
 FE Front End, basically the total of all your fulls. Minus all copies of
 redundant data.


 Netbackup 6.0
 $1000 per TB VTL


 Can't do NDMP to a DSU as far as I know.
 Need Tape or VTL for NDMP.

 Jim


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