Re: [Veritas-bu] VSP cache file
Jason Properties of the Client Attribute or the Sys Admin Guide perhaps? There is a Technote on google out there on this.. If I find it, will direct it to you :-) Simon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leidy, Jason D Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:39 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] VSP cache file Folks, I am running 5.1 and 6.x on my Windows clients and using VSS and VSP (Windows 2000) for Windows Open File Backup. Is there a way to control where Netbackup puts the snapshot cache file (I want to make sure it is not trying to put it on the C drive)? I was under the impression that Netbackup will not put the snapshot on the C drive by default unless all you have is a C drive. Jason This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 REGISTERED OFFICE:- Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Full backup followed by a Differential= Another Full
Netbackup, by default, uses mtime for incrementals. It can be configured to use C-time in bp.conf but that's not usual at all. More here: http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/200644.htm -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Doering Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 3:42 PM To: A Darren Dunham; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Full backup followed by a Differential= Another Full Mystery solved - or so it seems. Last week we had a helpdesk ticket where the user wanted some chmod/chgrp modifications of all files/directories in this area. My co-worker did that on Thursday/Friday of last week. Seems this changes the ChangeTime (ctime), which NBU is using for determining if something has "Changed". I then did a Differential, and it was looking at the ctime. For one of the files: stat error.txt File: `error.txt' Size: 338713 Blocks: 962IO Block: 4096 regular file Device: 1dh/29d Inode: 4365470520 Links: 1 Access: (0664/-rw-rw-r--) Uid: ( 2370/ cgoina) Gid: ( 9003/jtc-solexa) Access: 2008-10-15 09:44:41.235029187 -0400 Modify: 2008-10-15 09:44:41.235029187 -0400 Change: 2008-12-09 19:00:21.895757388 -0500 Turns out, the chmod/chgrp needed to be rerun on Monday/Tuesday this week. Is there a way for NBU to look at mtime instead of ctime? Thanks, Randy - Original Message - From: "A Darren Dunham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Full backup followed by a Differential = Another Full > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 07:42:41AM -0800, Randy Doering wrote: >> Backup Client = Isilon NAS Unit - NDMP. NBU version is 6.5.3. > >> With this?one (10+TBs, 1,643,099 files) during the backup NBU said it >> was doing a Differential, but when it was all done, it had actually >> backedup everything again. > >> If I kick off another Differential this coming weekend, I certainly >> don't want to have yet another backup that gets all of the data once >> again. >> >> Any thoughts? > > Since this is NDMP, Netbackup isn't making any of the file level > decisions. It's just passing a set of parameters to the host (dump > level, date of backup, file path, tape drive, etc...) and letting the > make the selections. > > I don't have it in my notes, but you can up the log level of ndmp on the > isilon and view exactly what NBU is sending over. It'll show up in the > ndmp logs. Ah. Found my notes... > > On any node of the cluster, edit the file /etc/mcp/templates/syslog.conf > and change the line: > *.>=info /var/log/isi_ndmp_d > to: > *.* /var/log/isi_ndmp_d > This should increase the logging levels on the cluster for ndmp. > > You may want to check with your support contacts before doing this, but > it's just a log level change. > > With that in place, you can start a manual differential and see what it > looks to be doing. You'll be able to kill it so it won't consume tapes > for you. If nothing looks obviously wrong, you may have to contact > support. > > Good luck! > > -- > Darren > ___ > Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Full backup followed by a Differential = Another Full
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 05:41:30PM -0500, Randy Doering wrote: > Turns out, the chmod/chgrp needed to be rerun on Monday/Tuesday this week. > > Is there a way for NBU to look at mtime instead of ctime? Again, this is NDMP. NBU isn't looking at anything. It's telling the NDMP host "please take a diff backup of everything in this path since this point in time". What the NDMP host does with that information (how it interprets what has changed) is beyond the direct control of NBU or any backup software. However, it is possible that the behavior is controllable within the NDMP host. But that's up to Isilon, not NBU. Either check the documentation or open a ticket with them and see if this is possible. NBU can pass in environment variables to NDMP. As an example, you can tell the NDMP server to use TAR or DUMP as the file format. -- Darren ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Full backup followed by a Differential = Another Full
Mystery solved - or so it seems. Last week we had a helpdesk ticket where the user wanted some chmod/chgrp modifications of all files/directories in this area. My co-worker did that on Thursday/Friday of last week. Seems this changes the ChangeTime (ctime), which NBU is using for determining if something has "Changed". I then did a Differential, and it was looking at the ctime. For one of the files: stat error.txt File: `error.txt' Size: 338713 Blocks: 962IO Block: 4096 regular file Device: 1dh/29d Inode: 4365470520 Links: 1 Access: (0664/-rw-rw-r--) Uid: ( 2370/ cgoina) Gid: ( 9003/jtc-solexa) Access: 2008-10-15 09:44:41.235029187 -0400 Modify: 2008-10-15 09:44:41.235029187 -0400 Change: 2008-12-09 19:00:21.895757388 -0500 Turns out, the chmod/chgrp needed to be rerun on Monday/Tuesday this week. Is there a way for NBU to look at mtime instead of ctime? Thanks, Randy - Original Message - From: "A Darren Dunham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Full backup followed by a Differential = Another Full > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 07:42:41AM -0800, Randy Doering wrote: >> Backup Client = Isilon NAS Unit - NDMP. NBU version is 6.5.3. > >> With this?one (10+TBs, 1,643,099 files) during the backup NBU said it >> was doing a Differential, but when it was all done, it had actually >> backedup everything again. > >> If I kick off another Differential this coming weekend, I certainly >> don't want to have yet another backup that gets all of the data once >> again. >> >> Any thoughts? > > Since this is NDMP, Netbackup isn't making any of the file level > decisions. It's just passing a set of parameters to the host (dump > level, date of backup, file path, tape drive, etc...) and letting the > make the selections. > > I don't have it in my notes, but you can up the log level of ndmp on the > isilon and view exactly what NBU is sending over. It'll show up in the > ndmp logs. Ah. Found my notes... > > On any node of the cluster, edit the file /etc/mcp/templates/syslog.conf > and change the line: > *.>=info /var/log/isi_ndmp_d > to: > *.* /var/log/isi_ndmp_d > This should increase the logging levels on the cluster for ndmp. > > You may want to check with your support contacts before doing this, but > it's just a log level change. > > With that in place, you can start a manual differential and see what it > looks to be doing. You'll be able to kill it so it won't consume tapes > for you. If nothing looks obviously wrong, you may have to contact > support. > > Good luck! > > -- > Darren > ___ > Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] VCB and Linux hosts
Hello, I am planning a VCB deployment and would like to know how others handle their Linux virtual server backups. Since you can't do an image level incremental back for Linux hosts, do you run a full backup every night for your Linux hosts? Do you use a hybrid method with an image level backup and a client in the virtual server to get file level restores? Has anyone tried doing image level restores for Linux virtual servers to recover individual files? How well does this process work? What are the challenges you have encountered in your implementation? Thanks in advance. Dwayne Adams ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Full backup followed by a Differential = Another Full
You have to setup Cumulative incremental I believe as ndmp backup levels go to 9. After 9 every backup is a full backup unless reset. Cumulative incremental resets it so you'll get a differential next. This is the case on NetApps. -- Rajmund Siwik Broadcom Corporation From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Doering Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 7:43 AM To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Full backup followed by a Differential = Another Full Greetings, Backup Client = Isilon NAS Unit - NDMP. NBU version is 6.5.3. Did Complete Fulls, with all of the /ifs/projects/ areas in the Backup Selection, starting on 11/26. This past weekend I kicked off Differential Incrementals for the same Backup Selections. All of the areas in that /ifs/projects appeared to have completed as expected except for one. With this one (10+TBs, 1,643,099 files) during the backup NBU said it was doing a Differential, but when it was all done, it had actually backedup everything again. I can go into Backup and Restore for this client, and choosing "show all backups", it will show the Full that was started on 11/26 and will also show the Differential that was started on 12/6 with the same Modification date (prior to 11/26) for each. Wouldn't have noticed so much, but with it taking 4+ days and using 16 tapes, has got me wondering about it. If I kick off another Differential this coming weekend, I certainly don't want to have yet another backup that gets all of the data once again. Any thoughts? Thanks, Randy ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Vault question
Bill- By default, NetBackup will read from the media server which originally did the backup (i.e. "owns" the media). Bpduplicate (which is what Vault uses to duplicate images) does the same thing, so you would want to choose the storage unit that belongs to the media server that originally wrote those images. If you end up duplicating images in one profile owned by multiple media servers, you can use the "Advanced Duplication" check-box on the Duplication tab. Only down side to that is you have to pre-allocate how many drives on each media server will be "used" for duplication. That read/write drive selection basically means how many bpduplicate processes will be started using that media server and storage unit. If you do not specify the "alternate read host", then, by default, bpduplicate will mount the original media on the media server that owns it. The problem that most folks will get into with this, is that they will use the basic duplication screen and select a storage unit for the destination. If they do not filter using the "Choose Backups" tab, then they could potentially duplicate a bunch of images from one media server to another, which causes the data stream to go over the network to the destination media server. B- -- Brian Blake Storage Architect Datalink Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:36:32 -0700 From: "York, Bill, DoIT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Vault question To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Environment Running NBU 5.1 MP6. Windows master, 1 Windows and 2 Solaris media servers. Using a Sun VTL+ for primary backup and then vault to physical tape. I have separate vaults for each media server. I use different profiles for different retention periods for the physical tape. The VTL drives are in a separate storage unit from the physical drives. Question When I dupe images, does it matter which storage unit I select in the profile? Should I use the SU that the primary image resides on? Please let me know if this is not enough info to answer my question. Thanks, - Bill York Enterprise Storage Systems Supervisor State of NM - Dept. of IT 505-827-2716 505-660-3024 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including all attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. -- This email has been scanned by the Sybari - Antigen Email System. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] VSP cache file
Go to the properties of the client Expand windows client on the left and go to VSP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leidy, Jason D Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:39 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] VSP cache file Folks, I am running 5.1 and 6.x on my Windows clients and using VSS and VSP (Windows 2000) for Windows Open File Backup. Is there a way to control where Netbackup puts the snapshot cache file (I want to make sure it is not trying to put it on the C drive)? I was under the impression that Netbackup will not put the snapshot on the C drive by default unless all you have is a C drive. Jason ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] VSP cache file
Folks, I am running 5.1 and 6.x on my Windows clients and using VSS and VSP (Windows 2000) for Windows Open File Backup. Is there a way to control where Netbackup puts the snapshot cache file (I want to make sure it is not trying to put it on the C drive)? I was under the impression that Netbackup will not put the snapshot on the C drive by default unless all you have is a C drive. Jason ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Full backup followed by a Differential = Another Full
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 07:42:41AM -0800, Randy Doering wrote: > Backup Client = Isilon NAS Unit - NDMP. NBU version is 6.5.3. > With this?one (10+TBs, 1,643,099 files) during the backup NBU said it > was doing a Differential, but when it was all done, it had actually > backedup everything again. > If I kick off another Differential this coming weekend, I certainly > don't want to have yet another backup that gets all of the data once > again. > > Any thoughts? Since this is NDMP, Netbackup isn't making any of the file level decisions. It's just passing a set of parameters to the host (dump level, date of backup, file path, tape drive, etc...) and letting the make the selections. I don't have it in my notes, but you can up the log level of ndmp on the isilon and view exactly what NBU is sending over. It'll show up in the ndmp logs. Ah. Found my notes... On any node of the cluster, edit the file /etc/mcp/templates/syslog.conf and change the line: *.>=info /var/log/isi_ndmp_d to: *.* /var/log/isi_ndmp_d This should increase the logging levels on the cluster for ndmp. You may want to check with your support contacts before doing this, but it's just a log level change. With that in place, you can start a manual differential and see what it looks to be doing. You'll be able to kill it so it won't consume tapes for you. If nothing looks obviously wrong, you may have to contact support. Good luck! -- Darren ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] 6.5.3 installation on Windows master and media servers
Hi All I am looking for the right sequence of patch installtion for both master and media servers. There are separate patch files for VxAT, VxAZ and NB_6.5.3.winnt.x86_314591. Which one should fe installed first? My guess would be to install NB last, but I want to confirm. Also do I need to install all 3 patches on a media server also? Thx ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Full backup followed by a Differential = Another Full
Greetings, Backup Client = Isilon NAS Unit - NDMP. NBU version is 6.5.3. Did Complete Fulls, with all of the /ifs/projects/ areas in the Backup Selection, starting on 11/26. This past weekend I kicked off Differential Incrementals for the same Backup Selections. All of the areas in that /ifs/projects appeared to have completed as expected except for one. With this one (10+TBs, 1,643,099 files) during the backup NBU said it was doing a Differential, but when it was all done, it had actually backedup everything again. I can go into Backup and Restore for this client, and choosing "show all backups", it will show the Full that was started on 11/26 and will also show the Differential that was started on 12/6 with the same Modification date (prior to 11/26) for each. Wouldn't have noticed so much, but with it taking 4+ days and using 16 tapes, has got me wondering about it. If I kick off another Differential this coming weekend, I certainly don't want to have yet another backup that gets all of the data once again. Any thoughts? Thanks, Randy___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] 6.5 bpgp & bpdir replacement
Hi All Does anyone know if there a replacement for bpgp and bpdir in 6.5? Regards Dave Notice to recipient: The information in this internet e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee please notify the sender immediately by telephone. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to external clients any opinions or advice contained in this internet e-mail are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable governing terms of business or client engagement letter issued by the pertinent Bank of America group entity. If this email originates from the U.K. please note that Bank of America, N.A., London Branch and Banc of America Securities Limited are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. For all U.K. corporate disclosures, please refer to www.bankofamerica.com/ukcompanies ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Dr restores without importing tapes.
In simple way: Move the tapes want to restore at the alternate server. Find the backup images that are on those tapes. Copy the image files from the image database to the alternate server. Put the tape in the alternate library and do an inventory. Move the tape to a "safe" pool. Now if the backup was made from the master server and the name of the alternate master is the same do your restore. If not use "alternate restore server" and do your restore From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:11 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Dr restores without importing tapes. I was wondering if anybody had read/implemented the doc: Disaster recovery using partial catalog recovery in NetBackup...? This looks like the perfect solution for me. I have a fully functional NetBackup environment in my DR site. All I need to be able to do is restore from my production tapes without having to import them. If I do the "standard" for DR then I have a server sitting up there doing nothing waiting for me to do a catalog recovery to it. As I don't need the policies, storage units, devices, but only need access to the images, this white paper looks like a good fit for me. I am looking at doing the replication of my images from the prod master to the dr master into a new file system. So has anybody else read this or implemented it? If so, you see any issues that you think you would run into? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
