Re: [Veritas-bu] Vmware backups under 7.0
Hi All. I wanted to comment on this performance thread. I've worked on a benchmark in a NetBackup 7 and vSphere 4 environment. During this testing I was able to achieve a backup performance of several hundred MB/sec. The paper that describes this testing can be found here: http://www.symantec.com/en/nz/business/products/whitepapers.jsp?pcid=2244&pvid=2_1 The name of it is: "Symantec NetBackup, Cisco UCS, and VMware vSphere Joint Backup Performance Benchmark" The paper provides suggestions on how to test backup performance in VMware environments. During the configuration phase of this testing I found a number of performance issues that were hardware related. Using the testing methodology outlined in the paper I was able to improve performance significantly. I just mention this as you might find it helpful as you try to determine what is causing your backup performance issues. George Winter Symantec -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Crowey Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 6:29 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Vmware backups under 7.0 >>On 02/08/2011 11:25 AM, Rusty.Major < at > sungard.com wrote: >>The only thing I am having concerns with are the speeds that we're seeing >>so far. We are getting about 35MB/s from each VM. What speeds are others >>seeing? >>Same here. I did some preliminary tests and we were getting around 20 to >>25 MB/s. The backup-host had a 1Gbps HBA and our tape-drives are LTO4 >>(connected thru a 8Gbps Fabric). This was my first time doing backups >>thru the SAN and couldn't believe how slow the backups were compared to >>LAN-based backups. >>I'm doing a hardware refresh (new server) in the next couple of days. >>This server has two 8Gbps HBAs (one will be zoned to the storage-array >>and the other one to the robot-library). Each HBA goes to a different >>Fabric (8Gbps) and I'm expecting , at least, getting around 100 MBps >>which I think is reasonable. Is anyone out there reaching these speeds? I wish I was getting a mere 25/35MB/s, currently I'm getting a 10th of that (if lucky). I take it that these are flashbackup-windows backups? And is your VCentre server virtual or physical - mine is virtual. I'm getting woeful backup performance, and it doesn't seem to matter if to disc or tape. And I'm not sure how to troubleshoot - for example, I can do a full backup inside a Guest of say a notes database at significantly faster speeds than our flashbackup backups. And that's using either disc and/or tape. And obviously that's all going through the vSphere infrastructure to the master/media server (a RHEL 4.8 64bit box). So I'm not convinced its as simple as saying bandwidth is being saturated - especially as I've timed the backups when there is no/little activity on the network (and no other backups running). Are you using a SAN backup, or is it over the network? (I tried a SAN backup, but it failed) Cheers Crowey +-- |This was sent by jcr...@marketforce.com.au via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Vmware backups under 7.0
>>On 02/08/2011 11:25 AM, Rusty.Major < at > sungard.com wrote: >>The only thing I am having concerns with are the speeds that we're seeing >>so far. We are getting about 35MB/s from each VM. What speeds are others >>seeing? >>Same here. I did some preliminary tests and we were getting around 20 to >>25 MB/s. The backup-host had a 1Gbps HBA and our tape-drives are LTO4 >>(connected thru a 8Gbps Fabric). This was my first time doing backups >>thru the SAN and couldn't believe how slow the backups were compared to >>LAN-based backups. >>I'm doing a hardware refresh (new server) in the next couple of days. >>This server has two 8Gbps HBAs (one will be zoned to the storage-array >>and the other one to the robot-library). Each HBA goes to a different >>Fabric (8Gbps) and I'm expecting , at least, getting around 100 MBps >>which I think is reasonable. Is anyone out there reaching these speeds? I wish I was getting a mere 25/35MB/s, currently I'm getting a 10th of that (if lucky). I take it that these are flashbackup-windows backups? And is your VCentre server virtual or physical - mine is virtual. I'm getting woeful backup performance, and it doesn't seem to matter if to disc or tape. And I'm not sure how to troubleshoot - for example, I can do a full backup inside a Guest of say a notes database at significantly faster speeds than our flashbackup backups. And that's using either disc and/or tape. And obviously that's all going through the vSphere infrastructure to the master/media server (a RHEL 4.8 64bit box). So I'm not convinced its as simple as saying bandwidth is being saturated - especially as I've timed the backups when there is no/little activity on the network (and no other backups running). Are you using a SAN backup, or is it over the network? (I tried a SAN backup, but it failed) Cheers Crowey +-- |This was sent by jcr...@marketforce.com.au via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Nb_dbsrv is not running
Hello Geeks, Suddenly we have noticed that our Nb_Dbsrv service has stopped. And its not getting up. The server configuration file /usr/openv/var/global/server.conf does not exist Aborting start server attempt Giving us this error. If anybody has any clue,please help. Pranav ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Vmware backups under 7.0
On 02/08/2011 11:25 AM, rusty.ma...@sungard.com wrote: > The only thing I am having concerns with are the speeds that we're seeing > so far. We are getting about 35MB/s from each VM. What speeds are others > seeing? Same here. I did some preliminary tests and we were getting around 20 to 25 MB/s. The backup-host had a 1Gbps HBA and our tape-drives are LTO4 (connected thru a 8Gbps Fabric). This was my first time doing backups thru the SAN and couldn't believe how slow the backups were compared to LAN-based backups. I'm doing a hardware refresh (new server) in the next couple of days. This server has two 8Gbps HBAs (one will be zoned to the storage-array and the other one to the robot-library). Each HBA goes to a different Fabric (8Gbps) and I'm expecting , at least, getting around 100 MBps which I think is reasonable. Is anyone out there reaching these speeds? -- Jorge ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Backing up and restore of BLOGs with SQL under Netbackup 7.0
Sorry. I need to correct earlier email. I'm actually meant to say BLOBS. I believe it is referring to large images and media types of data. The request is from our SQL DB administrator. Does anyone know if there is support or options for backing up and recovering blogs using SQL under Netbackup 7.0? Looking for some automation protection. thanks Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore & associates, Inc. Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin work: 302 292 4026 cell : 302 588 7374 bwin...@wlgore.com | http://www.gore.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Vmware backups under 7.0
Same here. Works really well. The only thing I am having concerns with are the speeds that we're seeing so far. We are getting about 35MB/s from each VM. What speeds are others seeing? My only caution would be that you should be VERY careful when you present the datastore LUNs to the VM Backup Host. I would highly recommend testing it out with non-production datastores. Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP, VCS ▪ Sr. Storage Engineer ▪ SunGard Availability Services ▪ 757 N. Eldridge Suite 200, Houston TX 77079 ▪ 281-584-4693 Keeping People and Information Connected® ▪ http://availability.sungard.com/ P Think before you print CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. "Spearman, David" Sent by: 02/07/2011 05:44 AM To "'WEAVER, Simon (external)'" , "VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu" cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Vmware backups under 7.0 Hi Simon, Works fine, lasts a long time. You may notice some degradation in throughput on individual VM’s as opposed to physical servers but nothing a little careful scheduling can’t get you around. I really like the idea that my offsite backups are vmdk’s which can be restored and hooked up to any esx system. With windows VM’s you can also do granular restores. I hear in 7.1 we will be able to do the same with unix VM’s. We use this in conjunction with netapp smvi backups for our onsite backups. Very slick and very fast. David Spearman County of Henrico From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [ mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: Monday-07-February- 2011 5:08 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Vmware backups under 7.0 Hi everyone, hope your all ok Anyone got any real world experience on NBU 7.0 and VMware backups? Now looking at this. Got an EVAL key, and gone through the guide, but sometimes its good to hear from real world experience. Regards Simon This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up and restore of BLOGs with SQL under Netbackup 7.0
The is an MSSQL backup client, and Oracle and probably a few others. On a system I have with postgresql, I have a pre-backup script that runs a pg_dump and checks for success before backing up the system (Including the pg_dump). Setting up the backup and doing the restore will just require some coordination/testing with your DBA. On 2/8/2011 7:43 AM, Bobby R Windle wrote: Does anyone know if there is support or options for backing up and recovering blogs using SQL under Netbackup 7.0? Looking for some automation protection. thanks Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore & associates, Inc. Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin work: 302 292 4026 cell : 302 588 7374 bwin...@wlgore.com | http://www.gore.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Backing up and restore of BLOGs with SQL under Netbackup 7.0
Does anyone know if there is support or options for backing up and recovering blogs using SQL under Netbackup 7.0? Looking for some automation protection. thanks Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore & associates, Inc. Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin work: 302 292 4026 cell : 302 588 7374 bwin...@wlgore.com | http://www.gore.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netabckup server registry entries change after eachreboot
Hi Simon, Problem has been resolved. Here is what I did: - Host file was empty. I manually entered the master and media server entries - Disable the netbackup services and rebooted the server - When checked registry, settings did not change - Enabled the netbackup services and again rebooted - Again checked and registry was intact Thanks all for your quick and prompt responses. Saran On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:28 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) < simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net> wrote: > *Hi Saran* > *If this is one Server that is causing the problem, then it could be > corrupt registry.* > ** > *I have seen this issue before, but for the life of me, cannot find the > article about it. Is there any 3rd party software that prevents changes to > the registry at all?* > ** > *It does not sound like a NetBackup problem - For example, if you remove > Netbackup or disable the Services, does the same problem appear? * > *Any other changes to the Server that may have occurred ? Anything > different on this Server, compared to others?* > ** > *Simon* > > -- > *From:* Saran Brar [mailto:saranb...@live.com] > *Sent:* Monday, February 07, 2011 3:41 PM > *To:* WEAVER, Simon (external) > *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] Netabckup server registry entries change after > eachreboot > > Hi Simon, > > There is enough free space in C drive. > Nothing shows in logs regarding registry writing errors. > I am making the change with the Domain Admin a/c and there is group > policies in place but there are other servers too and they don't have this > strange problem. > > Thanks, > > Saran > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:12 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) < > simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net> wrote: > >> Saran >> Is there enough disk space on the C: Drive? >> Anything in the event logs to show problems with writing to the registry? >> Are you making the change with the correct account and no Group Policies >> are in force or taking place? >> S. >> -- >> *From:* veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto: >> veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *Saran Brar >> *Sent:* Monday, February 07, 2011 3:10 PM >> *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu >> *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Netabckup server registry entries change after >> eachreboot >> >> Hi, >> >> I would like to share with all of you a very strange problem with a >> windows 2003 server. Whenever the server is rebooted, its netbackup server >> registry entries change. >> >> Have anyone faced this kind of problem. Please help. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Saran >> >> This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential >> and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected >> from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please >> notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any >> attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its >> content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments >> from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this >> email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. >> -o- >> Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 >> Registered Office: >> Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England >> >> > This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential > and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected > from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please > notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any > attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its > content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments > from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this > email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. > -o- > Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 > Registered Office: > Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England > > ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
