Re: [Veritas-bu] Warning Beta 7.5 OpsCenter
Symantec has never, ever supported upgrading anything to beta. Beta is a chance to preview the new software on a new system. Upgrades are not supported. I thought this was pointed out in the Beta Primer but I could be wrong. Never, ever install beta software in production (obviously). dave -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WALLEBROEK Bart Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:38 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Warning Beta 7.5 OpsCenter Just a small warning when you try to upgrade OpsCenter to 7.5 (beta 1). The upgrade wiped out our existing db and also crashed after the installation (a clean install works). I know this is only a beta 1 version but still. An installation, even an upgrade, should work before making it (beta) available. A case has been opened with Symantec support. Best Regards, Bart WALLEBROEK Backup Admin Systems Applications Management Support Specialist Enterprise Applications Delivery - Infrastructure Management S.W.I.F.T. SCRL ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] MSEO
My only tip is to make sure your media server can handle the CPU cycles needed for MSEO. It can be a resource hog. Setup is actually very easy. Have fun -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Heathe Yeakley Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 8:36 AM To: NetBackup Mailing List Subject: [Veritas-bu] MSEO I have a small NBU 6.5 environment where we are currently using a Decru encryption appliance to secure our backups. We want to get away from the Decru and have chosen to install and setup NetBackup Media Server Encryption Option. I've downloaded the software and manuals, which I'm sitting down to read. Any tips, tricks or pearls of wisdom from those of you out there already running it? Thanks. - HKY ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange status 13 during bpstart script
lol True What we've found out is that its the firewall between media and client which is cutting off this connection after 2 hours. The bpstart script is still running on the client but after the firewall tcp timeout of 2 hours its as though part of the connection (i'm thinking the bpbrm process) is terminated. This causes netbackup to log a status 13 on the master but the job stays active. I'm guessing it stays active becuase the master - media server is still open and netbackup has got in a mess. There must be a way to sort this issue though if this is the chain :- Master --- Media --- [Firewall] --- Client when there are large bpstart jobs greater than Fw timeouts? Anyone any ideas? Cheers Lightner, Jeff wrote: Logs?! Who needs logs? In the Windows world troubleshooting boils down to: If it doesn't work reboot it. If that doesn't fix it reinstall the application and reboot. If that doesn't fix it reinstall the OS reboot and reinstall the application. If that doesn't work update your resume and go somewhere where they don't have the gall to install software that can't be repaired with standard Windoze troubleshooting. :-) P.S. The vxlog thingy exists in UNIX/Linux as well and I agree it's a pain to use. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 9:57 AM To: Whelan, Patrick; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange status 13 during bpstart script Well on the client they are empty and on the master server windows its using the vxlog thingy which i've not looked at before. I.e there's nothing in ~netbackup\logs\bpbrm. :( I'm a unix engineer so find windows very frustrating as regards looking and searching through logs. cheers Whelan, Patrick wrote: What do the brbrm logs say? Regards, Patrick Whelan NetBackup Specialist Wholesale Markets and Treasury Trading Lloyds Banking Group Desk: +44 (0) 207 158 6123 Loc: OBS 2C-132 P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto:dave.mark...@fjserv.net] Sent: 14 May 2010 14:30 To: Whelan, Patrick Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange status 13 during bpstart script No it's just set to 900 still. We could increase that, but if it's the CLIENT_READ_TIMEOUT why is that not being hit and exiting sooner. Looking at the history when there is a problem, its reporting out status 13 and this brbrm forcible shutdown after 2hours each time Cheers Whelan, Patrick wrote: Have you increased the CLIENT_READ_TIMEOUT parameter? Regards, Patrick Whelan NetBackup Specialist Wholesale Markets and Treasury Trading Lloyds Banking Group Desk: +44 (0) 207 158 6123 Loc: OBS 2C-132 P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto:dave.mark...@fjserv.net] Sent: 14 May 2010 13:40 To: Whelan, Patrick; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange status 13 during bpstart script Yeah sorry perhaps not explained correctly. The bpstart time out is 8 hours (28800) The status 74 is what we would expect to see on the Master Server job view, and is actually what the CLIENT bpbkar log shows after 8 hours of the job hanging. However, the issue is the Master server is reporting Status 13 after 2 hours of inactivity, i.e whilst the bpstart job is running on the client and BEFORE the timeout is reached. Cheers Whelan, Patrick wrote: I'm not quite sure what you are asking. Obviously the BPSTART_TIMEOUT needs to be increased. If the error 74s stop then the error 13s should go away. Or am I missing the point altogether? Regards, Patrick Whelan NetBackup Specialist Wholesale Markets and Treasury Trading Lloyds Banking Group Desk: +44 (0) 207 158 6123 Loc: OBS 2C-132 P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: 14 May 2010 12:37 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Strange status 13 during bpstart script Guys i've been reading on Status 13 quite a bit but am still flummoxed as to why we are getting this on an environment here. Ok Netbackup 6.0MP4 Windows 2003 Master server Netbackup 6.0MP4 Windows 2003 Media server attached to EMC disk virtual storage. Netbackup 6.0MP4 Linux Client running Suse linux Basically we run a bpstart script which waits for a flag to appear
[Veritas-bu] Strange status 13 during bpstart script
Guys i've been reading on Status 13 quite a bit but am still flummoxed as to why we are getting this on an environment here. Ok Netbackup 6.0MP4 Windows 2003 Master server Netbackup 6.0MP4 Windows 2003 Media server attached to EMC disk virtual storage. Netbackup 6.0MP4 Linux Client running Suse linux Basically we run a bpstart script which waits for a flag to appear from another script ran from cron. Once the flag is found we run a 3rd party application script to shut down some applications. Occasionally these 3rd party app shutdown scripts dont finish properly and dont return to our bpstart script so it just sits there. After the bpstart time out is reached the bpbkar on the client shows a status 74 and exits. Now the weird bit. On the master server after 2 hours of the job starting a Status13 is reported that the bpbrm process was forcibly terminated on the client. The job then sits as active in the activity monitor sometimes, and other times finished with status 13. As this isn't a windows client vsp and vss are not to blame. There are firewalls between media servers and clients though, so i was wondering if some network issue was to blame??? Any pointers welcomed Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Issues with Oracle backup Netbackup 5.1
Are the oracle backups being issue from an agent such as RMAN? I know in the past the number of simultaneous backup streams are actually pushed from oracle and not netbackup. This was all set up in the RMAN scripts to stream 4 sessions at a time. This has no bearing on me having 8 drives available. Maybe chat to the DBA's Cheers judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com wrote: Nope, it was not there in 5.1 So you have 8 drives - and your storage unit is set to use 8 drives... correct? And multiplexing for the storage unit is set to 4 - so you should be able to have 32 jobs running at once - 4 to each of the 8 drives. 4 x 8 = 32 So let's look at something else. Are you running more than one job per client? (multistreamed backups) If so lets look at how many jobs per client are allowed. Master server properties, Global Attributes Maximum jobs per client -if this is one or 2 look at what jobs are running and which ones are queue. Has that Client reached it's max number of concurrently running jobs? The Maximum jobs per client property specifies the maximum number of backup and archive jobs that NetBackup clients can perform concurrently. Default: 1 job. This can also be set per client - so if the Global is like 8 but you still have queue, again in the master properties look at Client Attributes See if a client is listed here, if yes then look at the General tab and see if the client has be set to limit the number of data streams The Maximum data streams property specifies the maximum number of jobs that are allowed at one time for each selected client. (This value applies to the number of jobs on the client, even if multistreaming is not used.) -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Sushil Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 3:30 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Issues with Oracle backup Netbackup 5.1 First in the gui add the column to your view state details That will tell you why a job is not running. Could be you have on your storage unit, max drives, or max jobs and if those have been met then the job will queue. sorry but i could not find state details as column in activity monitor , maybe its not there in 5.1. Also there is no value set on Max. Conc. Jobs in storage unit. Is your storage unit definitely configured to use all the drives? And this may seem like a strange thing to ask but what is your client_connect_timeout set to on your master server? Yes it is configured to use all the drives. The client_connect_timeout value is 4000 seconds. Another thing which i noticed is that Maximum multiplexing per drive is set as 4 on storage unit. But multiplexing is set as 16 on policies. Could this be the reason for queued jobs? But at times i have noticed that 1 out of 8 drives is utilised and still there are approx 5-6 jobs in queued state and when i see job details there is nothing. +-- |This was sent by sushil.gamb...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange status 13 during bpstart script
Yeah sorry perhaps not explained correctly. The bpstart time out is 8 hours (28800) The status 74 is what we would expect to see on the Master Server job view, and is actually what the CLIENT bpbkar log shows after 8 hours of the job hanging. However, the issue is the Master server is reporting Status 13 after 2 hours of inactivity, i.e whilst the bpstart job is running on the client and BEFORE the timeout is reached. Cheers Whelan, Patrick wrote: I'm not quite sure what you are asking. Obviously the BPSTART_TIMEOUT needs to be increased. If the error 74s stop then the error 13s should go away. Or am I missing the point altogether? Regards, Patrick Whelan NetBackup Specialist Wholesale Markets and Treasury Trading Lloyds Banking Group Desk: +44 (0) 207 158 6123 Loc: OBS 2C-132 P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: 14 May 2010 12:37 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Strange status 13 during bpstart script Guys i've been reading on Status 13 quite a bit but am still flummoxed as to why we are getting this on an environment here. Ok Netbackup 6.0MP4 Windows 2003 Master server Netbackup 6.0MP4 Windows 2003 Media server attached to EMC disk virtual storage. Netbackup 6.0MP4 Linux Client running Suse linux Basically we run a bpstart script which waits for a flag to appear from another script ran from cron. Once the flag is found we run a 3rd party application script to shut down some applications. Occasionally these 3rd party app shutdown scripts dont finish properly and dont return to our bpstart script so it just sits there. After the bpstart time out is reached the bpbkar on the client shows a status 74 and exits. Now the weird bit. On the master server after 2 hours of the job starting a Status13 is reported that the bpbrm process was forcibly terminated on the client. The job then sits as active in the activity monitor sometimes, and other times finished with status 13. As this isn't a windows client vsp and vss are not to blame. There are firewalls between media servers and clients though, so i was wondering if some network issue was to blame??? Any pointers welcomed Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This e-mail is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland, number 95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds TSB Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales, number 2065. Telephone: 020 7626 1500. Lloyds TSB Scotland plc. Registered Office: Henry Duncan House, 120 George Street, Edinburgh EH2 4LH. Registered in Scotland, number 95237. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Cheltenham Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales, number 2299428. Telephone: 01452 372372. Cheltenham Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds TSB Bank plc. Lloyds TSB Bank plc, Lloyds TSB Scotland plc and Cheltenham Gloucester plc are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange status 13 during bpstart script
Well on the client they are empty and on the master server windows its using the vxlog thingy which i've not looked at before. I.e there's nothing in ~netbackup\logs\bpbrm. :( I'm a unix engineer so find windows very frustrating as regards looking and searching through logs. cheers Whelan, Patrick wrote: What do the brbrm logs say? Regards, Patrick Whelan NetBackup Specialist Wholesale Markets and Treasury Trading Lloyds Banking Group Desk: +44 (0) 207 158 6123 Loc: OBS 2C-132 P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto:dave.mark...@fjserv.net] Sent: 14 May 2010 14:30 To: Whelan, Patrick Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange status 13 during bpstart script No it's just set to 900 still. We could increase that, but if it's the CLIENT_READ_TIMEOUT why is that not being hit and exiting sooner. Looking at the history when there is a problem, its reporting out status 13 and this brbrm forcible shutdown after 2hours each time Cheers Whelan, Patrick wrote: Have you increased the CLIENT_READ_TIMEOUT parameter? Regards, Patrick Whelan NetBackup Specialist Wholesale Markets and Treasury Trading Lloyds Banking Group Desk: +44 (0) 207 158 6123 Loc: OBS 2C-132 P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto:dave.mark...@fjserv.net] Sent: 14 May 2010 13:40 To: Whelan, Patrick; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange status 13 during bpstart script Yeah sorry perhaps not explained correctly. The bpstart time out is 8 hours (28800) The status 74 is what we would expect to see on the Master Server job view, and is actually what the CLIENT bpbkar log shows after 8 hours of the job hanging. However, the issue is the Master server is reporting Status 13 after 2 hours of inactivity, i.e whilst the bpstart job is running on the client and BEFORE the timeout is reached. Cheers Whelan, Patrick wrote: I'm not quite sure what you are asking. Obviously the BPSTART_TIMEOUT needs to be increased. If the error 74s stop then the error 13s should go away. Or am I missing the point altogether? Regards, Patrick Whelan NetBackup Specialist Wholesale Markets and Treasury Trading Lloyds Banking Group Desk: +44 (0) 207 158 6123 Loc: OBS 2C-132 P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: 14 May 2010 12:37 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Strange status 13 during bpstart script Guys i've been reading on Status 13 quite a bit but am still flummoxed as to why we are getting this on an environment here. Ok Netbackup 6.0MP4 Windows 2003 Master server Netbackup 6.0MP4 Windows 2003 Media server attached to EMC disk virtual storage. Netbackup 6.0MP4 Linux Client running Suse linux Basically we run a bpstart script which waits for a flag to appear from another script ran from cron. Once the flag is found we run a 3rd party application script to shut down some applications. Occasionally these 3rd party app shutdown scripts dont finish properly and dont return to our bpstart script so it just sits there. After the bpstart time out is reached the bpbkar on the client shows a status 74 and exits. Now the weird bit. On the master server after 2 hours of the job starting a Status13 is reported that the bpbrm process was forcibly terminated on the client. The job then sits as active in the activity monitor sometimes, and other times finished with status 13. As this isn't a windows client vsp and vss are not to blame. There are firewalls between media servers and clients though, so i was wondering if some network issue was to blame??? Any pointers welcomed Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This e-mail is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland, number 95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds TSB Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales, number 2065. Telephone: 020 7626 1500. Lloyds
Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange hung job problem
Well i dont think the tape has unloaded, but it's getting stranger . This is the final 20 odd lines from bpbkar log on the windows client. This to be says the job has finished and ties in with the start time of 22:00. 22:32:46.684: [4448.2988] 2 tar_base::backup_finish: TAR - backup: 13574 files 22:32:46.684: [4448.2988] 2 tar_base::backup_finish: TAR - backup: file data: 650849865 bytes 6 gigabytes 22:32:46.684: [4448.2988] 2 tar_base::backup_finish: TAR - backup: image data: 703843328 bytes 6 gigabytes 22:32:46.684: [4448.2988] 2 tar_base::backup_finish: TAR - backup: elapsed time: 1590 secs 4494522 bps 22:32:46.700: [4448.2988] 2 tar_base::V_vTarMsgW: INF - EXIT STATUS 0: the requested operation was successfully completed 22:33:09.700: [4448.2988] 4 tar_backup::OVPC_WaitForServerComplete: INF - 'INF - Server status = 0' received 22:33:10.028: [4448.2988] 2 tar_base::V_vTarMsgW: INF - Active Directory: transcation logs truncated 22:33:10.028: [4448.2988] 16 dtcp_write: TCP - failure: send socket (1840) (TCP 10058: Can't send after socket shutdown) 22:33:10.028: [4448.2988] 16 dtcp_write: TCP - failure: attempted to send 6 bytes 22:33:10.028: [4448.2988] 16 dtcp_write: TCP - failure: send socket (1840) (TCP 10058: Can't send after socket shutdown) 22:33:10.028: [4448.2988] 16 dtcp_write: TCP - failure: attempted to send 45 bytes 22:33:10.028: [4448.2988] 4 OVStopCmd: INF - EXIT - status = 0 22:33:10.028: [4448.2988] 2 ov_log::V_GlobalLog: INF - BEDS_Term() Enter InitFlags:0x1 22:33:10.090: [4448.2988] 4 OVShutdown: INF - Finished process 22:33:10.137: [4448.2988] 4 WinMain: INF - Exiting C:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin\bpbkar32.exe 22:33:12.137: [4448.2988] 4 ov_log::OVClose: INF - Closing log file: C:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\logs\BPBKAR\041910.LOG Yet on the Master the job is still active and says its about 90% through (although i don't use the gui a great deal). Anyway on the gui job details it says it started loading a new tape P805L2 around 01:18 this morning??? There are also WRN messages from bperror on the master for the client in question with time stamps after 22:33. The messages i have seen before and am not too concerned about, but how can the master still be doing things when the client bpbkar process has finished? # bperror -all -client client -U --extract--- 04/19/2010 23:14:44 master client from client client: WRN - Removable Storage Management: unable to export database (WIN32 21: Unknown error) 04/19/2010 23:14:45 master client from client client: ERR - failure reading file: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NtmsData\NTMSDATA (WIN32 33: Unknown error) 04/19/2010 23:18:08 master client from client client: ERR - failure reading file: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Logs\FrameWork.log (WIN32 13: Unknown error) 04/20/2010 01:18:34 master client begin writing backup id client_1271711139, copy 1, fragment 180, to media id P805L2 on drive index 0 These messages keep repeating in the bprd log on the master every 10 odd minutes which i'm not sure if is related.:- 10:35:30.456 [5622] 2 launch: /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpsched, pid=465 10:35:31.822 [5622] 2 childterm: pid=465 exit=200, signo=0 core=no 10:35:31.822 [5622] 2 schild: child(ren) not ready to terminate 10:35:31.822 [5622] 2 listen_loop: select() interrupted 10:45:29.742 [5622] 2 get_behavior_rec: ? 10:45:29.743 [5622] 2 get_behavior_rec: MD5 digest line 10:45:30.826 [5622] 2 launch: /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpsched, pid=698 10:45:32.188 [5622] 2 childterm: pid=698 exit=200, signo=0 core=no 10:45:32.188 [5622] 2 schild: child(ren) not ready to terminate 10:45:32.188 [5622] 2 listen_loop: select() interrupted Jobs are being multiplexed and everything else seems to have finished apart from this client. There are a few db_lock_media: unable to lock media at offset 14 (P843L2) type messages for the first tape in use for the backups in bptm log It successfully mounts the next tape it requires P805L2 (must have ran out of space on P843) and other jobs which were still multiplexing seem to write ok and finish. Any other areas to look? Jeff Cleverley wrote: Dave, Do you know if the tape library completes the media unload properly? I believe that the log may show the backup completed but the session for the master doesn't complete until the media has been unloaded. You may check things like the bptm or bprd logs on your master also. Jeff On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Dave Markham dave.mark...@fjserv.net wrote: Guys anyone remember seeing something like this back on NBU 5. I'm running NBU 5.0MP7 on a Unix Server attached to L25 tape library. I have a windows client which works fine some times and then other times just sits there and hangs everything up. It never finishes and needs cancelling manually
[Veritas-bu] Strange hung job problem
Guys anyone remember seeing something like this back on NBU 5. I'm running NBU 5.0MP7 on a Unix Server attached to L25 tape library. I have a windows client which works fine some times and then other times just sits there and hangs everything up. It never finishes and needs cancelling manually. Windows client is Win Server 2003 SP2 and has NBU 5.0mp7 client. Now according to the bpkar log on the client the job has finished successfully, but on the master/media server the job stays hung as though its not registered it finishing. I have some logs if anyone could help out?? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] New tapes are frozen
You haven't got some strange barcode rule have you or actually lack of a barcode rule to put new tapes into scratch? Just a thought. In the past i've had new tapes come in and get assigned to Netbackup pool which was reserved for catalogue backups. I'm not sure if this froze them or not though as i think it should just spurt a 96 if there were no tapes available. Leo Dream wrote: Hi All Recently we are having some errors with the tapes. We add some new tapes to the library and inventory successfully (with bar code). However when we run backups, the tapes are frozen, following errors are shown in the bptm log: io_ioctl: ioctl (MTWEOF) failed on media id XX, drive index 1, The media is write protected. (19) (bptm.c.23992) The strange thing is: 1. The tape is not write protected for sure. 2. If i unfreeze the tape and rerun the backup, the tape can be used without any problem, so don't know why we have write error the first time. The master server is 6.5.5 on Windows 2003 Standard server (64 bit), the tape drive is HP. Anyone has any idea? Thanks! Leo ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle Backup Notification
Many ways to do this indeed, but one i choose to alert on specific policies clients etc is by editing /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/backup_exit_notify. It will send you an email once the job completes with the backup status and extra info. e.g Below the section which says :- # might want to mail this to someone You may want to add things like :- if [ $1 = clienta ] || [ $1 = clientb ] then cat $OUTF | mailx -s Netbackup exit for client [$1] em...@address.com fi You can just keep adding sections if you like also :- if [ $2 = policy a ] then cat $OUTF |mailx -s Netbackup exit for policy [$2] em...@address.com fi For a full report i have a separate script which uses bperror -backstat -hoursago nnn -U as well as doing various other functions. Obviously changing nnn with the numbers of hours back to report on. I have this set my a command line variable and auto adjusted if the script needs to sleep if jobs are still running. Hope this gives some pointers Cheers Harpreet SINGH wrote: Dear Mr. Dave, If possible can you send me one example. Actually I want to monitor my backup by Policy wise. Some of the backup runs only during the week end. If I can monitor the backup status of those backups by email/sms alert. Then I no need to logon and check the backup status. With Warm Regards =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Harpreet Singh Chana Phone : (O) 6895 - 4326 Fax :(O) 6895 - 4991 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Notice The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying or distribution of the message, or any action taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and contact the sender immediately. Thank you. Dave Markham dave.mark...@fjs erv.net To Sent by: Neeraj Puri neeraj.p...@gmail.com veritas-bu-bounce cc s...@mailman.eng.aub veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu urn.edu Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle Backup Notification 08/17/2009 10:08 PM Please respond to dave.mark...@fjse rv.net I'd personally edit /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/backup_exit_notify and put a test section in for various policies or clients to send different emails. If you need a hand let me know D Neeraj Puri wrote: Dear Admins, I was looking for a solution to send an e-mail confirmation after the Oracle backup is completed. The option of client sends e-mail send a lot of e-mails as it sends mail for each single stream of backup job. Can you help! Regards, Neeraj ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ForwardSourceID:NT000FDD2E ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle Backup Notification
I'd personally edit /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/backup_exit_notify and put a test section in for various policies or clients to send different emails. If you need a hand let me know D Neeraj Puri wrote: Dear Admins, I was looking for a solution to send an e-mail confirmation after the Oracle backup is completed. The option of client sends e-mail send a lot of e-mails as it sends mail for each single stream of backup job. Can you help! Regards, Neeraj ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] upgrade licenses query
Dont shoot me down in flames but we still have a netbackup install here at version 4.5mp6!! I know i know. Anyway the customer is finally letting us upgrade to 6.5.4 and putting their hands in their pockets. My question is will the 4.5 licenses allow me to upgrade to version 5.0mp7 ? I will have new 6.5 licenses, but can't imaging they will work with 5.0. I'm just trying to think of any stoppers for the upgrade. Regards Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] MSEO Audit file anyone
Has anyone got any audit file examples they are using for MSEO? I'm running MSEO 6.1 on Netbackup 6.5.4 Solaris Sparc. Combined Master/Media When i kick off a couple of backups the correct info gets logged in /var/log/mseo.log, yet when the normal scheduled backups run overnight the log doesnt seem to have the correct information in it for every job. It also seems to come up with the same backup id for many jobs. I wondered if anyone had seen this before? Or had a sample audit file. I'm running encrypted and none encrypted backups multiplexed to the same media. Also if people use Audit tags in the keyword section do they nest inside the mseo tags or come afterwards? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup MSEO issue adding tags to netbackup policy
Yeah i read that oo. Unfortunately i have another post in here about the windows admin console not working at 6.5.4 :( Jim H wrote: I am not sure about the special barccode rules, but I believe you can use a windows administration console to add the MSEO tags. +-- |This was sent by jhilt...@excite.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] MSEO can i have multiple matches in policy
I have MSEO 6.1 installed on a master/media server with netbackup 6.5.4. Things are going ok and i'm creating an mseo policy for my requirements. However i want to do a multiple match in a policy rule but using an OR match. I can't see anywhere in the pdfs how this is done or if it can be. e.g Rule is :- Policies: xx-policy rules rule 1 Effect=permit audit netbackup Action=write Compress=|netbackup.keyword.Compress| KeyGroup=|netbackup.keyword.KeyGroup| KeyType=|netbackup.keyword.KeyType| match Name=netbackup.keyword.KeyType MatchOp=!empty match Name=netbackup.keyword.KeyGroup MatchOp=!empty match Name=netbackup.keyword.Compress MatchOp=!empty rule 2 Effect=permit audit netbackup Action=write Compress=lzolx KeyGroup=x-keygroup KeyType=aes128 match Name=netbackup.policy MatchOp=exactnocase MatchValue=dbbackup rule 3 Effect=permit audit netbackup Action=write Compress=none KeyGroup=x-keygroup KeyType=none rule 4 Effect=permit audit Action=read I want the second rule to match and therefore encrypt if the policy is DBbackup OR arcDBbackup. Anyone any ideas? I'm assuming if i add another match like the one in rule2 it will expect BOTH to be present. Is this right? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.5.4 Remote Java Admin probs
I'm actually not running dns and everything is done via hosts. I'll keep digging Cheers BeDour, Wayne wrote: I had a similar problem with 2 pc’s running the admin gui, they both worked fine until we upgraded to 6.5.4. . I put an entry in the host file of the pc for the master server and that took care of the problem. Strange thing is that other pc’s worked fine without changing the host file Wayne BeDour Unix System Administrator PH: 313-593-9876 Internet: wbed...@lear.com *From:* veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *rusty.ma...@sungard.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2009 5:28 PM *To:* dave.mark...@fjserv.net *Cc:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.5.4 Remote Java Admin probs Dave, I can't tell you how glad I am to see someone else with this issue. Since 6.x, we've had some really strange issues with the Java GUI that we've chalked up mostly to version differences througout our environment (we managed quite a few different NBU domains geographically dispersed). We upgraded an environment to 6.5.3 a couple of weeks ago and subsequently upgraded the remote windows Java GUI to 6.5.3 (from 6.5.0) and now it will not work at all on this freshly upgraded site, as well as another site. The remaining sites all work just fine. Keep in mind that we have changed nothing else and suddenly this site and another (that was working great before) are not working with the java gui. The login screen works fine and I can see comments about it building panels and whatnot and then it switches to the Admin Console view and it's completely blank. I get nothing. I have a case open and I've done lots of DNS/bpclntcmd troubleshooting and sent all kinds of logs, even from a working server so they can compare them and they still haven't found anything. Again, nothing changed except the patch to 6.5.3 for one Master and the Java GUI and it immediately broke something for at least two environments. I have not yet uninstalled the Java GUI 6.5.3 patch to get at least some functionality back, but then we can't get to some panels at all at that level. As soon as I can get about an hour free, I'm going to do a snoop on the working server and non-working server and dig in to that. I've never been a big fan of the 6.x java gui as it has been super flaky. My kingdom for a web interface. *Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP, VCS* ▪ Sr. Storage Engineer ▪ SunGard Availability Services ▪ 757 N. Eldridge Suite 200, Houston TX 77079 ▪ 281-584-4693 Keeping People and Information Connected® ▪ http://availability.sungard.com/ P *Think before you print* CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. *Dave Markham dave.mark...@fjserv.net* Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 08/03/2009 08:48 AM Please respond to dave.mark...@fjserv.net To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] 6.5.4 Remote Java Admin probs Guys i recently upgraded from Nbu 5.0MP7 to NBU6.5 on Solaris 10 Master. All went well. We access the infrastructure through a windows terminal server which i installed the Java Admin console on. Again everything fine. I updated to 6.5.4 on the master and all was good. I updated to 6.5.4 on the windows java and now the gui is just behaving strangely. Once logged in I can't seem to get any panes to get data and it just sits there with the clock spinning for some time. I'm a bit confused as to where to look for problems. I'm not doing any authentication fanciness or anything i'm just logging in as root using the console. It was all perfect at 6.5 base though. Anyone seen this at all? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ** ** LEGAL DISCLAIMER ** ** This E-mail message and any attachments may contain legally privileged, confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this E-mail message from your
[Veritas-bu] Netbackup MSEO issue adding tags to netbackup policy
Guys i'm installing and configuring MSEO 6.1 on Netbackup 6.5.4 on Solaris 10 sparc. This is all on the same box so no separate media servers etc. The security server and agent for MSEO are both on the same box also. Communication is working fine. I'm still getting to grips with the policies within MSEO etc, but i'm just trying to use the default for now to test it works. I've converted the devices and done a backup with no keywords in the netbackup policy to test backups still work without encryption and the security server is allowing the agent to work. Now when i put this in the Keyword phrase box of Netbackup gui its failing with the error below. trying to add mseoKeyType=aes256; Compress=lzrw3; /mseo The error pop up i get is :- An error occurred while changing policy 'Temp_manual', status 509 Can not execute program. Looking in netbackup/logs/bpjava-susvc i see the following :- 16:27:15.175 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: fd = 10, currentObj.currSocket = 10 16:27:15.176 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: tag = 118 = RANDOM_KEY, lines = 1 16:27:15.176 [3170] 2 command_RANDOM_KEY: enableEncryption 16:27:15.178 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: fd = 10, currentObj.currSocket = 10 16:27:15.178 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: tag = 1 = EXEC_RETURN, lines = 1 16:27:15.178 [3170] 2 sanitary_mb_str: String /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpgetconfig -M x VM_PROXY_SERVER is considered sanitary. 16:27:15.178 [3170] 2 command_EXEC: tag = EXEC_RETURN, lines read = 0, buffer = /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpgetconfig -M xxx VM_PROXY_SERVER 16:27:22.438 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: fd = 10, currentObj.currSocket = 10 16:27:22.438 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: tag = 118 = RANDOM_KEY, lines = 1 16:27:22.438 [3170] 2 command_RANDOM_KEY: enableEncryption 16:27:22.440 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: fd = 10, currentObj.currSocket = 10 16:27:22.440 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: tag = 234 = BPPLINFO_CMD, lines = 2 16:27:22.441 [3170] 16 sanitary_mb_str: Found redirection in attempt without proper path 16:27:22.441 [3170] 32 sanitary_mb_str: String /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpplinfo Temp_manual -modify -clienttype Standard -residence *NULL* -pool Temp_manual -priority 0 -generation 5 -classjobs 2147483647 -keyword mseoKeyType=aes256; Compress=lzrw3; /mseo -data_class *NULL* -res_is_stl 0 -sg *ANY* -active -compress 0 -follownfs 0 -crossmp 0 -collect_tir_info 0 -rfile 0 -encrypt 0 -blkincr 0 -granular_restore_info 0 -tzo 3600 -M x is considered unsanitary. 16:27:22.441 [3170] 16 command_EXEC: Illegal command Anyone any ideas? Cheers P.S just putting any old word in the Keyword phrase works. Its as though the MSEO tags are not liked. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup MSEO issue adding tags to netbackup policy
To add i'm running the gui on the unix server and redirecting it back with X11 through SSH to a terminal server running xming. This is due to another issue i have with the 6.5.4 remote admin gui not working on windows :( Cheers Dave Markham wrote: Guys i'm installing and configuring MSEO 6.1 on Netbackup 6.5.4 on Solaris 10 sparc. This is all on the same box so no separate media servers etc. The security server and agent for MSEO are both on the same box also. Communication is working fine. I'm still getting to grips with the policies within MSEO etc, but i'm just trying to use the default for now to test it works. I've converted the devices and done a backup with no keywords in the netbackup policy to test backups still work without encryption and the security server is allowing the agent to work. Now when i put this in the Keyword phrase box of Netbackup gui its failing with the error below. trying to add mseoKeyType=aes256; Compress=lzrw3; /mseo The error pop up i get is :- An error occurred while changing policy 'Temp_manual', status 509 Can not execute program. Looking in netbackup/logs/bpjava-susvc i see the following :- 16:27:15.175 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: fd = 10, currentObj.currSocket = 10 16:27:15.176 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: tag = 118 = RANDOM_KEY, lines = 1 16:27:15.176 [3170] 2 command_RANDOM_KEY: enableEncryption 16:27:15.178 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: fd = 10, currentObj.currSocket = 10 16:27:15.178 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: tag = 1 = EXEC_RETURN, lines = 1 16:27:15.178 [3170] 2 sanitary_mb_str: String /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpgetconfig -M x VM_PROXY_SERVER is considered sanitary. 16:27:15.178 [3170] 2 command_EXEC: tag = EXEC_RETURN, lines read = 0, buffer = /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpgetconfig -M xxx VM_PROXY_SERVER 16:27:22.438 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: fd = 10, currentObj.currSocket = 10 16:27:22.438 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: tag = 118 = RANDOM_KEY, lines = 1 16:27:22.438 [3170] 2 command_RANDOM_KEY: enableEncryption 16:27:22.440 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: fd = 10, currentObj.currSocket = 10 16:27:22.440 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: tag = 234 = BPPLINFO_CMD, lines = 2 16:27:22.441 [3170] 16 sanitary_mb_str: Found redirection in attempt without proper path 16:27:22.441 [3170] 32 sanitary_mb_str: String /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpplinfo Temp_manual -modify -clienttype Standard -residence *NULL* -pool Temp_manual -priority 0 -generation 5 -classjobs 2147483647 -keyword mseoKeyType=aes256; Compress=lzrw3; /mseo -data_class *NULL* -res_is_stl 0 -sg *ANY* -active -compress 0 -follownfs 0 -crossmp 0 -collect_tir_info 0 -rfile 0 -encrypt 0 -blkincr 0 -granular_restore_info 0 -tzo 3600 -M x is considered unsanitary. 16:27:22.441 [3170] 16 command_EXEC: Illegal command Anyone any ideas? Cheers P.S just putting any old word in the Keyword phrase works. Its as though the MSEO tags are not liked. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup MSEO issue adding tags to netbackup policy
I think i've found this out myself but it may be useful for people. I think its a security issue with the console running from remote as the admin gui invokes command line parameters when a policy is changing and various characters could be used by a non root user running the gui to do various things. I've manually added the keywords with bpplinfo Temp_manual -modify -keyword mseo /mseo and on a restart of the gui its appeared. Hopefully thats correct. I'm not entirely sure why xml tags could be security issues but i'm not in the know there. Cheers Dave Markham wrote: To add i'm running the gui on the unix server and redirecting it back with X11 through SSH to a terminal server running xming. This is due to another issue i have with the 6.5.4 remote admin gui not working on windows :( Cheers Dave Markham wrote: Guys i'm installing and configuring MSEO 6.1 on Netbackup 6.5.4 on Solaris 10 sparc. This is all on the same box so no separate media servers etc. The security server and agent for MSEO are both on the same box also. Communication is working fine. I'm still getting to grips with the policies within MSEO etc, but i'm just trying to use the default for now to test it works. I've converted the devices and done a backup with no keywords in the netbackup policy to test backups still work without encryption and the security server is allowing the agent to work. Now when i put this in the Keyword phrase box of Netbackup gui its failing with the error below. trying to add mseoKeyType=aes256; Compress=lzrw3; /mseo The error pop up i get is :- An error occurred while changing policy 'Temp_manual', status 509 Can not execute program. Looking in netbackup/logs/bpjava-susvc i see the following :- 16:27:15.175 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: fd = 10, currentObj.currSocket = 10 16:27:15.176 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: tag = 118 = RANDOM_KEY, lines = 1 16:27:15.176 [3170] 2 command_RANDOM_KEY: enableEncryption 16:27:15.178 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: fd = 10, currentObj.currSocket = 10 16:27:15.178 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: tag = 1 = EXEC_RETURN, lines = 1 16:27:15.178 [3170] 2 sanitary_mb_str: String /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpgetconfig -M x VM_PROXY_SERVER is considered sanitary. 16:27:15.178 [3170] 2 command_EXEC: tag = EXEC_RETURN, lines read = 0, buffer = /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpgetconfig -M xxx VM_PROXY_SERVER 16:27:22.438 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: fd = 10, currentObj.currSocket = 10 16:27:22.438 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: tag = 118 = RANDOM_KEY, lines = 1 16:27:22.438 [3170] 2 command_RANDOM_KEY: enableEncryption 16:27:22.440 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: fd = 10, currentObj.currSocket = 10 16:27:22.440 [3170] 2 session_dispatch: tag = 234 = BPPLINFO_CMD, lines = 2 16:27:22.441 [3170] 16 sanitary_mb_str: Found redirection in attempt without proper path 16:27:22.441 [3170] 32 sanitary_mb_str: String /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpplinfo Temp_manual -modify -clienttype Standard -residence *NULL* -pool Temp_manual -priority 0 -generation 5 -classjobs 2147483647 -keyword mseoKeyType=aes256; Compress=lzrw3; /mseo -data_class *NULL* -res_is_stl 0 -sg *ANY* -active -compress 0 -follownfs 0 -crossmp 0 -collect_tir_info 0 -rfile 0 -encrypt 0 -blkincr 0 -granular_restore_info 0 -tzo 3600 -M x is considered unsanitary. 16:27:22.441 [3170] 16 command_EXEC: Illegal command Anyone any ideas? Cheers P.S just putting any old word in the Keyword phrase works. Its as though the MSEO tags are not liked. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.5.4 Remote Java Admin probs
Yep all done. It works and i can connect it just doesnt seem to get any info back in the right hand panes, and yes it was working fine at 6.5GA but after the 6.5.4 its behaving strangely. I have checked the .vrtsnbuj shortcut to have NBJAVA_CONNECT_OPTION=1 and even increased MAX_MEMORY and still the same issue. Cheers Cornely, David wrote: Make sure you have the following: -Network ports 1556 (PBX) 13724 (vnetd) connectivity between the terminal server and NBU servers (bi-directional). -FQDN of terminal server in the bp.conf file on each NBU server With these 2 things I was able to get the Java console working in my environment on a remote terminal server. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 06:48 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] 6.5.4 Remote Java Admin probs Guys i recently upgraded from Nbu 5.0MP7 to NBU6.5 on Solaris 10 Master. All went well. We access the infrastructure through a windows terminal server which i installed the Java Admin console on. Again everything fine. I updated to 6.5.4 on the master and all was good. I updated to 6.5.4 on the windows java and now the gui is just behaving strangely. Once logged in I can't seem to get any panes to get data and it just sits there with the clock spinning for some time. I'm a bit confused as to where to look for problems. I'm not doing any authentication fanciness or anything i'm just logging in as root using the console. It was all perfect at 6.5 base though. Anyone seen this at all? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] 6.5.4 Remote Java Admin probs
Guys i recently upgraded from Nbu 5.0MP7 to NBU6.5 on Solaris 10 Master. All went well. We access the infrastructure through a windows terminal server which i installed the Java Admin console on. Again everything fine. I updated to 6.5.4 on the master and all was good. I updated to 6.5.4 on the windows java and now the gui is just behaving strangely. Once logged in I can't seem to get any panes to get data and it just sits there with the clock spinning for some time. I'm a bit confused as to where to look for problems. I'm not doing any authentication fanciness or anything i'm just logging in as root using the console. It was all perfect at 6.5 base though. Anyone seen this at all? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.5.4 Remote Java Admin probs
Sorry i may not have explained correctly. All services are started fine. If i run the gui from the master server and redirect it back to an X display e.g /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/jnbSA Then all works great. What i'm having probs with is the Windows remote Java console i have installed on my temrinal server. This then connects via hosts file to the master server for remote admin. Its this which is causing probs at 6.5.4 Cheers Justin Piszcz wrote: On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Dave Markham wrote: Guys i recently upgraded from Nbu 5.0MP7 to NBU6.5 on Solaris 10 Master. All went well. We access the infrastructure through a windows terminal server which i installed the Java Admin console on. Again everything fine. I updated to 6.5.4 on the master and all was good. I updated to 6.5.4 on the windows java and now the gui is just behaving strangely. Once logged in I can't seem to get any panes to get data and it just sits there with the clock spinning for some time. I'm a bit confused as to where to look for problems. I'm not doing any authentication fanciness or anything i'm just logging in as root using the console. It was all perfect at 6.5 base though. Anyone seen this at all? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Are the NBU processes started? /etc/init.d/netbackup start Did you check the logs? /usr/openv/netbackup/logs/* Are all of the processes running? bpps -a You should not have any issue on the master server. Are all of the service(s) started via xinetd on the master? How are you 'consoled' into the master? I assume you are connected keyboard/mouse to a Sun server? What does bpdbjobs show if you run it manually (cmd line)? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] MSEO queries for new Solaris install
Guys i'm upgrading existing backup infrastructure by introducing a new server and upgrading NBU to 6.5.4 on Solaris. I've then got to install and configure MSEO 6.1 so we can encrypt some database backups. I've been reading through all the pdf's and its just a bit of a minefield. Is there any simplistic steps anywhere anyone has done to install? I'm hoping i don't need to change much from defaults, but all documentation points towards security server, pem server, pem client etc. I've basically got one master/media server combined where i need to install this on. I can't see mentioned anywhere in the docs how it is done on a single machine. I have seen standalone config mentioned for the pem and security server though. Anyway can someone explain or help me understand the following :- 1. From what i gather there is a master access file with a clear text password in it. I'm not entirely sure what this is for, but i'd assume its critical to be not put on a none encrypted backup anywhere? 2. RSA keys are used to encrypt and decrypt the AES keys which are dynamically created to encrypt data blocks. Is this right? We have the requirement to restore a backup taken at one site on another site, so i was hoping to create a separate key for each site and then import the production key into the DR site MSEO system so that tapes written on production could be read and restored. Is this understanding correct? I don't want to overwrite the existing default keys each time but am not sure if the default key will be used to write backups. 3. I have multiple backup jobs writing to the same tape pools and not all these jobs need encrypting. From what i see the encryption is done by adding MSEO tags into the keyword section of the policy. Do i need to put these keywords in ALL policies but simply omit the KeyType bit but leave in Compress=xxx if i want other policies to compress but not encrypt? Or do i leave the keyword section blank. If i leave blank does compression still work as i gather the /dev/rmt/0cbn links are changed by the MSEO virtual device paths. 4. Are there a list of these variables for netbackup.keyword anywhere? From what i gather the default xml file produced contains attributes that will have the netbackup.keyword.variable in them. The word 'netbackup.keyword' is not then referenced elsew section. This confuses me a little as i seehere and only the variable bit is referenced in the policy keyword other built in variables in the docs e.g netbackup.policy netbackup.pool, but don't then know how to reference them or if i need to. Has anyone a basic example they could post me at all of configuration? Sorry this is long, i'm just venting because its all a bit mental and as always deadlines mean it needs doing asap. Any pointers would be great. Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.5 upgrade qs
Actually no i'm using the same master server name which i thought would be best. What i've done previously when we had to install a new Sol9 OS was to create the new OS and build the server on identical hardware with new disks amd same machine name, install netbackup and recover the catalogues from the main server. This all worked fine. My main question is actually surrounding patches as i need to work out if i need any solaris 8 patches for the CLIENTS. I know my new master server will be solaris10 which handles multi threaded applications, but i can't see anywhere about client patches. Cheers WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote: Dave This is one process I am looking at. I take it, you chose a completely new name for the Master ? Simon -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of tsimerson Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 2:50 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.5 upgrade qs One thing to keep in mind that it is critical to go through the steps of running catalog consistency tests. I had tons of problems with this (100+ GB catalog space). And never got the catalog into a state that we could actually upgrade our 5.1 MP7 in place. It would have taken us an estimate 4 - 5 days of downtime to actually complete the upgrade. The catch was having to go through Symantec support to check and fix any catalog inconsistencies. That was a tedious process (run the test, send the output, receive a fix file, run the fix file, repeat, repeat, repeat). Every time I would get to a consistent state, I ran out of my upgrade window. I ended up creating a new environment running NBU 6.5.3 and migrating media servers and clients over. I'm just now finishing that up after 8 weeks of effort. Should be done by the end of this month. Oh, and I've been consolidating the long retention period data on the 5.1 environment to tapes that I can then import into the 6.5 environment. Dave Markham wrote: I'm currently running NBU 5.0 MP7 On Solaris 9 on an E220R End goal is to get to NBU 6.5.4 on Solaris 10 on a new T5220. Network based clients, mix of Win200, Win2003, Solaris 8 My upgrade path is going to be as follows. Does anyone see any issues with this? Build Sol10 on new box Install NBU 5.0GA on new box Install MP7 for 5.0 on new box (solaris 10 aware) Backup catalogues on old box Transfer and recover catalogues on new box. Install new box and connect to existing tape library etc --- Should now having running NBU 5.0 MP7 on new T5220 with Sol10 --- Upgrade to NBU 6.5 Install 6.5.4 patch. ( i assume 6.5.4 is not released as a full version. I can't see to find that info out ). The questions i have is :- 1. From reading the release guide and all the cross references i see there are patches required for Solaris 8 for NBU6.5. I couldn't see any patches needed for Solaris 10. My question is are these patches only relevant for the server software? I.E I dont need to patch all my clients with the Sol8 OS patches in the NBU 6.5 release guide? 2. Is it possible to restore catalogues taken from NBU 5 onto a new system with NBU 6.5.4 ? I know the cats are different, but was just wondering if i could shorten my upgrade path by using NBU 5 catalogue tapes and restoring them onto a newly installed 6.5.4 version. Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu +-- |This was sent by t...@tjsimerson.org via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist
[Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.5 upgrade q's
I'm currently running NBU 5.0 MP7 On Solaris 9 on an E220R End goal is to get to NBU 6.5.4 on Solaris 10 on a new T5220. Network based clients, mix of Win200, Win2003, Solaris 8 My upgrade path is going to be as follows. Does anyone see any issues with this? Build Sol10 on new box Install NBU 5.0GA on new box Install MP7 for 5.0 on new box (solaris 10 aware) Backup catalogues on old box Transfer and recover catalogues on new box. Install new box and connect to existing tape library etc --- Should now having running NBU 5.0 MP7 on new T5220 with Sol10 --- Upgrade to NBU 6.5 Install 6.5.4 patch. ( i assume 6.5.4 is not released as a full version. I can't see to find that info out ). The questions i have is :- 1. From reading the release guide and all the cross references i see there are patches required for Solaris 8 for NBU6.5. I couldn't see any patches needed for Solaris 10. My question is are these patches only relevant for the server software? I.E I dont need to patch all my clients with the Sol8 OS patches in the NBU 6.5 release guide? 2. Is it possible to restore catalogues taken from NBU 5 onto a new system with NBU 6.5.4 ? I know the cats are different, but was just wondering if i could shorten my upgrade path by using NBU 5 catalogue tapes and restoring them onto a newly installed 6.5.4 version. Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.5 upgrade q's
Thanks guys. Pretty much what i thought of doing. I just need to clarify after upgrade to 6.5.4 if i need sol8 patches. I then need to work out all the steps to install MSEO. Knightmare. Cheers rusty.ma...@sungard.com wrote: Dave, I would recommend installing your new server at 5.0MP7 and switching over to it. Our upgrade path for new hardware has been to install NBU on the new server, then copy a tarball of /usr/openv over and untar it on the new server. Then swap IPs, hostnames, cabling, etc. and you're done. It takes about a day, but this seems the quickest and easiest method to ensure the environment has all the config files, catalog, etc., in place. Once that's done, we usually run on the new hardware at the old version for a few days or a week to ensure everything is ok and then move forward with the 6.5 upgrade. *Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP, VCS* ▪ Sr. Storage Engineer ▪ SunGard Availability Services ▪ 757 N. Eldridge Suite 200, Houston TX 77079 ▪ 281-584-4693 Keeping People and Information Connected® ▪ _http://availability.sungard.com/_ P *Think before you print* CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. *Dave Markham dave.mark...@fjserv.net* Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 07/08/2009 04:59 AM Please respond to dave.mark...@fjserv.net To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.5 upgrade q's I'm currently running NBU 5.0 MP7 On Solaris 9 on an E220R End goal is to get to NBU 6.5.4 on Solaris 10 on a new T5220. Network based clients, mix of Win200, Win2003, Solaris 8 My upgrade path is going to be as follows. Does anyone see any issues with this? Build Sol10 on new box Install NBU 5.0GA on new box Install MP7 for 5.0 on new box (solaris 10 aware) Backup catalogues on old box Transfer and recover catalogues on new box. Install new box and connect to existing tape library etc --- Should now having running NBU 5.0 MP7 on new T5220 with Sol10 --- Upgrade to NBU 6.5 Install 6.5.4 patch. ( i assume 6.5.4 is not released as a full version. I can't see to find that info out ). The questions i have is :- 1. From reading the release guide and all the cross references i see there are patches required for Solaris 8 for NBU6.5. I couldn't see any patches needed for Solaris 10. My question is are these patches only relevant for the server software? I.E I dont need to patch all my clients with the Sol8 OS patches in the NBU 6.5 release guide? 2. Is it possible to restore catalogues taken from NBU 5 onto a new system with NBU 6.5.4 ? I know the cats are different, but was just wondering if i could shorten my upgrade path by using NBU 5 catalogue tapes and restoring them onto a newly installed 6.5.4 version. Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue
I'm guessing this is the case that because this is an IDS monitoring box the directories and files on that volume are constantly in use. I suppose then the raw backup will never work? You'll have to excuse my ignorance with windows clients but isn't VSP installed with the client software or do i need to install it separately? I can't recall seeing it on the windows cd i have. cheers mojomagix wrote: I think the reboot question is valid based on the can't lock raw device for read message. If some other entity is preventing NBU from gaining access to the device that entity has to be kicked off somehow. Another option would be run a 'chkdsk /f /r' against that volume. That will typically kick everyone off in the same manner that a reboot would. I suspect you'll see something like: Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another process. Chkdsk may run if this volume is dismounted first. ALL OPENED HANDLES TO THIS VOLUME WOULD THEN BE INVALID. Would you like to force a dismount on this volume? (Y/N) If you do see that message, the process preventing chkdsk from running is probably the same one preventing NBU from doing its backup. +-- |This was sent by mojoma...@yahoo.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue
Not as yet. something i'll look at also. I have spoke to the App guy and it makes sense the drive can't be locked to do a raw backup as it will be constantly in use by the application. I'm a but stuck as to how to back this thing up now. cheers Donaldson, Mark wrote: Have you increased your timers yet? Client_read_timeout springs to mind... -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:11 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue Running Netbackup 5.0Mp7 on Solaris 9 Master server. 10 odd network based clients some windows2000, 2003 and Solaris 8,9 We are having trouble with one Windows 2000 server running Envision IDS software which creates millions of files under a directory. f:\nic\lsnode has 87gb data with 1.4million files. Luckily the directory is on a separate drive than the OS so there are options (hopefully). We currently can't get a backup as it fails with Status 14 or other issues. I'm asking for advise from windows side as i'm a Unix/Solaris engineer. I'm guessing i need to do some image type backup with flash or snap but i dont have the advanced client license and as i'm on v5 i dont see how i can get one. I've currently tried following this :- http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/275912.htm and putting /\\.\F: in the file list for a new policy with the problem client to do raw backup. However i get a Status1 and get the following error :- WRN - can't lock raw device for read: \\.\F: (F:) (Win32 5: Access is denied. ) I'm not sure why that is. Also i have not got any settings on the Client properties under VSP. I dont have a cache file volume list or Cache File Size parameters other than default. Should i be changing anything here? Any help appreciated. Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue
Running Netbackup 5.0Mp7 on Solaris 9 Master server. 10 odd network based clients some windows2000, 2003 and Solaris 8,9 We are having trouble with one Windows 2000 server running Envision IDS software which creates millions of files under a directory. f:\nic\lsnode has 87gb data with 1.4million files. Luckily the directory is on a separate drive than the OS so there are options (hopefully). We currently can't get a backup as it fails with Status 14 or other issues. I'm asking for advise from windows side as i'm a Unix/Solaris engineer. I'm guessing i need to do some image type backup with flash or snap but i dont have the advanced client license and as i'm on v5 i dont see how i can get one. I've currently tried following this :- http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/275912.htm and putting /\\.\F: in the file list for a new policy with the problem client to do raw backup. However i get a Status1 and get the following error :- WRN - can't lock raw device for read: \\.\F: (F:) (Win32 5: Access is denied. ) I'm not sure why that is. Also i have not got any settings on the Client properties under VSP. I dont have a cache file volume list or Cache File Size parameters other than default. Should i be changing anything here? Any help appreciated. Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue
To add The F:\ volume is 521gb with 134gb used. Does this mean the raw backup is 134gb or 521 as i dont want it filling tape unnecessarily. Ideally i'd like to do the mount point option and have a policy backing up the mount point of the problem dirs e.g F:\nic\lsnode but i dont know how to make a mount point from a current directory in windows. Cheers Dave Markham wrote: Running Netbackup 5.0Mp7 on Solaris 9 Master server. 10 odd network based clients some windows2000, 2003 and Solaris 8,9 We are having trouble with one Windows 2000 server running Envision IDS software which creates millions of files under a directory. f:\nic\lsnode has 87gb data with 1.4million files. Luckily the directory is on a separate drive than the OS so there are options (hopefully). We currently can't get a backup as it fails with Status 14 or other issues. I'm asking for advise from windows side as i'm a Unix/Solaris engineer. I'm guessing i need to do some image type backup with flash or snap but i dont have the advanced client license and as i'm on v5 i dont see how i can get one. I've currently tried following this :- http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/275912.htm and putting /\\.\F: in the file list for a new policy with the problem client to do raw backup. However i get a Status1 and get the following error :- WRN - can't lock raw device for read: \\.\F: (F:) (Win32 5: Access is denied. ) I'm not sure why that is. Also i have not got any settings on the Client properties under VSP. I dont have a cache file volume list or Cache File Size parameters other than default. Should i be changing anything here? Any help appreciated. Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue
Thanks for the info Bryan. I have just changed the file path to \\.\F: and ran a test and i'm still getting 'WRN - can't lock raw device for read: \\.\F: (F:) (Win32 5: Access is denied. ) I take it there's not other flash ways without advanced client license. Cheers Bryan Bahnmiller wrote: Dave, The Flash backup documentation is wrong, at least for 6.5. Instead of using /\\.\F: I had to use \\.\F: It will backup the entire volume. And since your empty space probably hasn't been overwritten with zeros, it will take time to back it up. It should still compress like the rest of the volume. If you had a VTL or are using de-dupe of some sort, even that empty space would probably de-dupe quite well. I just ran some tests. I had a 50 GB volume. I created about 9 GB of small files, about a million or so. The backup speed would start at about 10 MB/s and then when it hit the millions of tiny files, the speed drastically dropped resulting in a final average of 1.7 MB/s. However, the speed of the flashbackup of the raw volume ran consistently at 11 MB/s, start to finish. So even though there was only 10 GB to backup on a 50 GB volume, the 10 GB backup of files took 1hr 44m, and the flashbackup of 50GB took 1hr 30m. Ideally you would want to split off the bad files in their own volume, so you aren't backing up that much white space. Is it possible to shrink it in your environment? (With W2K it may not be possible.) I'm not sure you can do a mountpoint inside of a filesystem on W2K. I know it is possible in W2003 and above. Bryan *Dave Markham dave.mark...@fjserv.net* Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 06/30/2009 10:14 AM Please respond to dave.mark...@fjserv.net To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue To add The F:\ volume is 521gb with 134gb used. Does this mean the raw backup is 134gb or 521 as i dont want it filling tape unnecessarily. Ideally i'd like to do the mount point option and have a policy backing up the mount point of the problem dirs e.g F:\nic\lsnode but i dont know how to make a mount point from a current directory in windows. Cheers Dave Markham wrote: Running Netbackup 5.0Mp7 on Solaris 9 Master server. 10 odd network based clients some windows2000, 2003 and Solaris 8,9 We are having trouble with one Windows 2000 server running Envision IDS software which creates millions of files under a directory. f:\nic\lsnode has 87gb data with 1.4million files. Luckily the directory is on a separate drive than the OS so there are options (hopefully). We currently can't get a backup as it fails with Status 14 or other issues. I'm asking for advise from windows side as i'm a Unix/Solaris engineer. I'm guessing i need to do some image type backup with flash or snap but i dont have the advanced client license and as i'm on v5 i dont see how i can get one. I've currently tried following this :- http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/275912.htm and putting /\\.\F: in the file list for a new policy with the problem client to do raw backup. However i get a Status1 and get the following error :- WRN - can't lock raw device for read: \\.\F: (F:) (Win32 5: Access is denied. ) I'm not sure why that is. Also i have not got any settings on the Client properties under VSP. I dont have a cache file volume list or Cache File Size parameters other than default. Should i be changing anything here? Any help appreciated. Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu DTCC DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately and delete the email and any attachments from your system. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] MSEO and normal backups to same media
Guys I'm running (Or will be after upgrading from 5.0mp7) Netbackup 6.5.4 Master server with MS Encryption Option installed. I know i can set the encryption per policy and we have requirement to backup 2 machines with encryption and not the rest. My question is can encrypted and none encrypted images be written to the same tape media? Currently we mpx multiple servers to say a daily or weekly tape pool to maximise throughput. Cheers P.S Does anyone know a rough factor of time added by using MSEO. e.g is it twice as long .6 times as long? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Can you reassure my understanding.
Thanks All. Pretty much exactly what i was thinking, so its good to know i'm not loosing my marbles. Problem was i wasn't consulted at design time. We are doing a proof of concept as the design has already been approved apparently and we shouldn't be changing it on theories. Pah. I can't wait for the big fat Told you So! Even if it works on one box its not going to work on all 6 i'm sure, and even if it does i'm not signing off on it for SLA for support team as its not a way to be doing a fully supported DR approach. Cheers Boris Kraizman wrote: I found the best way is to build the OS to match the original, then recover all data including system files via NetBackup. I do have BMR configured, but the sequential order for restore will take much longer then OS, and then full systems restore on top. I don't do BMR for Solaris and Linux systems at all, just a full system backups and then OS build with data restores. It works well on Windows with full systems restore including the regsitry and system state, no really a problem with diffirent hardware, there are some tricks anywhere. You would need de-select a few system files, use w2koption per the tech note, and you will be fine. Boris Kraizman On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Mark Glazerman mark.glazer...@spartech.com mailto:mark.glazer...@spartech.com wrote: We tested this and you are right that you will likely run into problems doing an entire system restore via netbackup. Even with the best will in the world, there is bound to be some kind of configuration file which will mess things up on the running system during the restore. Will the servers at site 2 be the same architecture / patch level / NICS etc ? Unless you have everything 100% the same you'll run into snags. Also... make sure that when you lay the data down you don't lay down the Netbackup files or you'll hose your restore (as we found out !!). If the servers will have identical names and IP's etc... why not just build them as if they were the servers in your home data center but with duplicate (but empty) file systems. In a DR situation all you'd need to restore would be your data files into those empty filesystems. The OS stuff would be as if they were your servers in your home data center. Mark Glazerman Desk: 314-889-8282 Cell: 618-520-3401 狭 please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of John Nardello Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:37 PM To: dave.mark...@fjserv.net mailto:dave.mark...@fjserv.net; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Can you reassure my understanding. Most servers get really ticked off if you try to overwrite the running OS files - assuming they'll let you do it at all. Probably because an overwrite is effectively a delete and then create. So great, what happens when you restore that critical library file that Solaris was using to run ? Or heck, when you restore bpbkar ? Or inetd ? If the CSA guy refuses to back down though, no sweat, ask for a proof of concept test. Let's see what really happens when we do it this way. If only because it ought to be fun to see exactly how messed up the destination server gets. =) And don't sign off on it as the full DR method until you get one. Bare metal restores != file-level restores. - John Nardello -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:50 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Can you reassure my understanding. Guys i'm after a bit of backup as am perhaps doubting myself now. I'm having a bit of a row with a CSA (solutions architect) at our company. A backup design has been done where 2 sites have Solaris clients configured with the same name and ip, and one site is just disconnected from the network. There is a Netbackup Server 6.5.3 (Windows) which backs up the connected clients from site 1. What they want for a DR test is this :- 1. Disconnect the clients from site1 on the network. 2. Enable the network connections of clients on site2 (with same name and ip of site1 clients) 3. Restore to the running Solaris server through netbackup of a client
[Veritas-bu] Can you reassure my understanding.
Guys i'm after a bit of backup as am perhaps doubting myself now. I'm having a bit of a row with a CSA (solutions architect) at our company. A backup design has been done where 2 sites have Solaris clients configured with the same name and ip, and one site is just disconnected from the network. There is a Netbackup Server 6.5.3 (Windows) which backs up the connected clients from site 1. What they want for a DR test is this :- 1. Disconnect the clients from site1 on the network. 2. Enable the network connections of clients on site2 (with same name and ip of site1 clients) 3. Restore to the running Solaris server through netbackup of a client image taken on site 1. My understanding was you wouldn't ever try and restore a whole system from file system based backups to a running solaris OS. Is that correct still? I also can see all sorts of problems having the client names the same and same ips. Arp tables etc. I'd personally have the client names referenced differently in Netbackup regardless of the hostnames which could be the same? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Windows Client Status 58 with a difference
Guys i'm a unix/solaris engineer day to day and while i have XP on my laptop from day to day work, administrating Windows at a high level is not necessarily my forte. I have Netbackup 5.0MP7 (dont ask, due for upgrade shortly). with various unix/windows clients. We have added some new windows 2003 clients and are having trouble with connection status 58. There is no DNS involved and the Master server (solaris) can telnet to client ports 13782 and 13724 Vnetd has been configured for the clients with bpclient -client client -add -no_callback 1. The issue we have is the Windows client itself doesnt seem to look for entries in %systemroot%/system32/drivers/etc/hosts and i can't figure out why. I can connect to the master server by ip on ports 13724 and 13782 but not via name we have configured. If we configure the name in lmhosts it can telnet via name but Netbackup doesnt' work properly and can't connect. I've googled but had no joy as was pointed to a reg key which may be affecting things but its not on this system. Anyone any ideas? Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Client Status 58 with a difference
Nah on the gui under client properties it says Cannot Connect on Socket (Status 25) after it times out. The Master and Media are the same Solaris server. The jobs fail with Status 58 currently when the client is added to a policy. I've heard if the hosts file on windows is as a type .txt file it doesnt work and that is NOT the case. Cheers WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote: Dave Can I ask one question... from the Master Server, can you expand your hosts, goto clients and do you see the CLIENT listed? If so, can you connect to it ? Simon -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:24 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Windows Client Status 58 with a difference Guys i'm a unix/solaris engineer day to day and while i have XP on my laptop from day to day work, administrating Windows at a high level is not necessarily my forte. I have Netbackup 5.0MP7 (dont ask, due for upgrade shortly). with various unix/windows clients. We have added some new windows 2003 clients and are having trouble with connection status 58. There is no DNS involved and the Master server (solaris) can telnet to client ports 13782 and 13724 Vnetd has been configured for the clients with bpclient -client client -add -no_callback 1. The issue we have is the Windows client itself doesnt seem to look for entries in %systemroot%/system32/drivers/etc/hosts and i can't figure out why. I can connect to the master server by ip on ports 13724 and 13782 but not via name we have configured. If we configure the name in lmhosts it can telnet via name but Netbackup doesnt' work properly and can't connect. I've googled but had no joy as was pointed to a reg key which may be affecting things but its not on this system. Anyone any ideas? Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Client Status 58 with a difference
Ed Wilts wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Dave Markham dave.mark...@fjserv.net mailto:dave.mark...@fjserv.net wrote: I have Netbackup 5.0MP7 (dont ask, due for upgrade shortly). with various unix/windows clients. We have added some new windows 2003 clients and are having trouble with connection status 58. A status 58 usually means that either the master server or the media server is not listed in the client's bp.conf (or the registry in the case of Windows clients). If you need to, you can go into regedit and change the server list and then restart the NetBackup service. Is the master also the media server? If the master can connect but the media server can't, the easiest thing to do is to push out a new server list with bpsetconfig from the master (we see this a lot). /Ed Server entry is correct under Config in the registry. cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Client Status 58 with a difference
Guys thanks all for your responses and indeed some good suggestions. I'm pretty ok with windows although someone mentioned 64bit which i hadn't thought of and is good to know. It wasn't 64bit though and so all the telnet suggestions and bpclntcmd stuff i'd tried. I kept finding the same problem in that the client cannot resolve the master server via using hosts file. I was pretty sure it wasn't NBU related at that point. In the end and mostly out of frustration i removed the hosts file and created a new one with notepad. Added just the client and the master server and then saved it and renamed to hosts so not hosts.txt Magically it then all worked. To me the hosts file was corrupted or windows wasn't seeing it correctly. Quite why i have no idea but its happened now on 5 diff win clients and the problem has now gone. I expect its the guy who scripted in the NBU client install for windows and i'll need to have a word with him as i guess his script is doing something strange. Thanks for the assist NBUDelta :) D Donaldson, Mark wrote: Error 58 is a can't connect error. Err 57 is if it can't reverse correctly and authenticate the server or if the list of allowed servers in the client is wrong. We just pounded a bunch of these to death on a handful of servers. A quick test is to telnet host bpcd from the master server. If you get a connection refused, then the service might be down on the client (usually). If you just hang, before getting to the server, check your firewalls. We ended up reinstalling the client in a number of NT boxen to fix the problem. One server had to be manually stripped of all things NB, rebooted, and then reinstalled before it worked. Usually, though, the service on the client needs to be started or, if already on, bounced. HTH -M -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:24 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Windows Client Status 58 with a difference Guys i'm a unix/solaris engineer day to day and while i have XP on my laptop from day to day work, administrating Windows at a high level is not necessarily my forte. I have Netbackup 5.0MP7 (dont ask, due for upgrade shortly). with various unix/windows clients. We have added some new windows 2003 clients and are having trouble with connection status 58. There is no DNS involved and the Master server (solaris) can telnet to client ports 13782 and 13724 Vnetd has been configured for the clients with bpclient -client client -add -no_callback 1. The issue we have is the Windows client itself doesnt seem to look for entries in %systemroot%/system32/drivers/etc/hosts and i can't figure out why. I can connect to the master server by ip on ports 13724 and 13782 but not via name we have configured. If we configure the name in lmhosts it can telnet via name but Netbackup doesnt' work properly and can't connect. I've googled but had no joy as was pointed to a reg key which may be affecting things but its not on this system. Anyone any ideas? Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Change Media ID in Netbackup
Netbackup 5.0MP7 Solaris 9 master. I've realised Netbackup is using the last 6 chars of a barcode to generate media id's rather than the first 6 which i'd prefer. I know i can alter this for media introduced into the unit with MEDIA_ID_BARCODE_CHARS = 0 8 1:2:3:4:5:6 in vm.conf, BUT if i do that a media which is assigned to say Weekly_Full will then become scratch as Netbackup will think of it as a completely new media won't it? e.g Barcode BK0001L2 Current Media ID = 0001L2 vmquery -m 0001L2 shows media information vmquery -m BK0001L2 shows not present in database. If i take the tape out and add the vm.conf entry what will happen? Therefore is there a way to tell Netbackup change the media id you know from 0001L2 to BK0001L2 ?? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Number of retries query
Thanks guys there are some useful options there. To give more info we run the RMAN job as follows :- -We have an oracle admin station which holds various oracle dba scripts. -We have a policy which controls the scheduling and kicks of a client backup of this oracle management station and backs up a single file to a disk storage unit on the master. (simple directory). We backup one file to stop any status 71 -The reason the policy and schedule is there is to run a bpstart script on the management station. -This bpstart script checks no oracle tape dba script is already running (if it is it exits non zero and obviously gives status 73 in netbackup) -Once the checks are passed it launches an oracle dba script (not maintained by me). -This oracle script talks to 3 oracle RAC servers and works out which one is running the particular db instance. -These oracle RAC servers are all Netbackup media servers and they then initiate the oracle backup through a Netbackup oracle agent on the relevant media server. This backs up using the application schedules on the master server for the associated policy with each media server. (sorry that sounds confusing). -If the oracle script fails and exits with non zero then in turn our bpstart script fails with status 73 and we can alert the dbas We want to launch via netbackup this way so we can trap the exit status and report to the dbas there has been a problem, plus for it to appear on a daily report. The case we have experienced is if a backup fails which could be due to no tapes or various oracle failures, the dba's don't want an automatic one running again as it starts doing things with flash recovery areas and starts running into the normal working day. Indeed perhaps some logic in the bpstart script to create a lockfile is useful, but the lock file would need to be removed upon completion or failure and this would then not give us any benefit when try 2 happens. If a lock file was used we could do some date matching and perhaps only run a job if the lockfile was older than x hours ( a lot of date parsing though which could be difficult ) to touch it again and run the backup. I'll have to explorer this method. Cheers ken_zuf...@goodyear.com wrote: Dave, This isn't an ideal fix, but it will work--schedule the backups from the client. Basically, just put entries in cron (root or oracle will work) with the commands (or script wrapper around the command) to launch the backup instead of using the NBU scheduler (will have to remove current full/incremental schedules and replace with a user directed that has the appropriate windows). Reason this will work is because the automatic retries only affects backups launched from the master...if it's submitted by the client, it will not retry on failure. Only real issues off the top of my head are: 1) If client is down or doesn't have network connectivity, you won't see failure to run backup in NBU because the backup will never be submitted. 2) You lose visibility to backup schedules within NBU. Ken Zufall Technical Analyst D660C The Goodyear Tire Rubber Company GTN 446.0592 or 330.796.0592 *Len Boyle len.bo...@sas.com* Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 04/06/2009 09:30 AM To dave.mark...@fjserv.net dave.mark...@fjserv.net, veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Number of retries query Good Morning Dave, I know of no way to change the number of job retries on a policy or client or schedule object. I can see where this would be a nice feature to have. There are many different reasons that a rman backup job can fail. From a netbackup end of things one could have a 96 error no scratch tapes, A media fault, A network issue. Etc. Or it could be a oracle issue. For something like a media issue that is cleared up on the netbackup end of things I would think that the dba's would want the backup to be retried. For an oracle issue I do not know enough. But either way I believe that you could add the control you require into the script that netbackup runs on the client to run the rman commands. Might not be easy. I am sure other that know oracle can give you a better answer then this, and I look forward to learning. As a simple case of go or nogo without any variance based on the prior failure you could try. In the beginning of the script you could set a state value of STARTED into a file on client. At the end of the script the vaule could be changed to COMPLETE. At the start of the script if the value is not COMPLETE the script could give an error return and exit. Someone would have to change the statue value to STARTED to enable the script to run. This could be done after clearing the problem. This can also be used to bypass the running of the backup at the script level when the oracle dba's
Re: [Veritas-bu] Do anybody have script to shut down master server and then copy all catalog to NAS then start master.
Can't you just use /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpbackupdb -dpath path to store backup and wrap that in a script. Its what i do daily to create catalogue backups to disk and then i automatically transfer these to a DR site. There is no need to stop Netbackup during this backup either. Cheers bolobaboo kabootar wrote: Hi I have master 6.5.3 on Solaris 10. We want to add one more precaution other than backing catalog to tape. We have NAS mount point on master server. I am looking for script which can stop master gracefully and copy catalogs ( /usr/openv/db/* , /usr/openv/netbackup/db/* and /usr/openv/var/* ) to a NAS mount point and then start Master. Thank you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Windows client java access query
Guys the wonderful Pen Testers have found on various Windows netbackup clients that the bpjava-msvc is not accessible from anywhere. I need to restrict access to it somehow and just want to clarify my findings. I know about the java\auth.conf file but from what i have read that only restricts access to users on the system. What i want to do is restrict access to the java console to only a specific set of ips or hosts. Has anyone done this within Netbackup at all on windows? On unix/solaris its a simple case of adding bpjava-msvc : ip addresses into /etc/hosts.allow, but i can't find how to do it on windows. Is it a firewall only fix? In which case what about hosts on the same subnet as a client? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows client java access query
Correction :- First line should read :- Guys the wonderful Pen Testers have found on various Windows netbackup clients that the bpjava-msvc IS accessible from anywhere. Cheers Dave Markham wrote: Guys the wonderful Pen Testers have found on various Windows netbackup clients that the bpjava-msvc is not accessible from anywhere. I need to restrict access to it somehow and just want to clarify my findings. I know about the java\auth.conf file but from what i have read that only restricts access to users on the system. What i want to do is restrict access to the java console to only a specific set of ips or hosts. Has anyone done this within Netbackup at all on windows? On unix/solaris its a simple case of adding bpjava-msvc : ip addresses into /etc/hosts.allow, but i can't find how to do it on windows. Is it a firewall only fix? In which case what about hosts on the same subnet as a client? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Number of retries query
and if its use for anyone else here is what i shall implement :-
Prev_Job=`bperror -backstat -client oracle mgmt client -hoursago 12 |
awk '$14 == policy { print Client [$12], STATUS [$19] }'`
if [ $Prev_Job ];then
echo ERROR: A previous job has ran in the past [$hours] hours $log
echo $Prev_Job $log
exit 1
fi
ken_zuf...@goodyear.com wrote:
Wow, glad I don't have your job...that's pretty convoluted :P
But may have an answer, building off the lock file idea...but much
simpler. Just put the logic in the bpstart to check and see if the
policy you're executing has run in the past X hours and failed...if it
has, exit gracefully, if it hasn't, continue the backup.
Quick and dirty logic:
bperror -backstat -hoursago [hours] -l | awk '{print $19,$14}' | grep
-v ^0 | grep [policy_name]
In the above, $19 = backup status code, $14 = policy name. Strip out
any successful backups, grep for the policy name...if it's not null,
you've had a failure in the past X hours.
Of course, there are different ways to parse the bperror output, but
the above would work. In fact, you shouldn't even have to grep out
successes because the process shouldn't be trying to submit the policy
if it's run successfully.
Ken Zufall
Technical Analyst
D660C
The Goodyear Tire Rubber Company
GTN 446.0592 or 330.796.0592
*Dave Markham dave.mark...@fjserv.net*
04/07/2009 06:16 AM
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Number of retries query
Thanks guys there are some useful options there.
To give more info we run the RMAN job as follows :-
-We have an oracle admin station which holds various oracle dba scripts.
-We have a policy which controls the scheduling and kicks of a client
backup of this oracle management station and backs up a single file to a
disk storage unit on the master. (simple directory). We backup one file
to stop any status 71
-The reason the policy and schedule is there is to run a bpstart script
on the management station.
-This bpstart script checks no oracle tape dba script is already running
(if it is it exits non zero and obviously gives status 73 in netbackup)
-Once the checks are passed it launches an oracle dba script (not
maintained by me).
-This oracle script talks to 3 oracle RAC servers and works out which
one is running the particular db instance.
-These oracle RAC servers are all Netbackup media servers and they then
initiate the oracle backup through a Netbackup oracle agent on the
relevant media server. This backs up using the application schedules on
the master server for the associated policy with each media server.
(sorry that sounds confusing).
-If the oracle script fails and exits with non zero then in turn our
bpstart script fails with status 73 and we can alert the dbas
We want to launch via netbackup this way so we can trap the exit status
and report to the dbas there has been a problem, plus for it to appear
on a daily report.
The case we have experienced is if a backup fails which could be due to
no tapes or various oracle failures, the dba's don't want an automatic
one running again as it starts doing things with flash recovery areas
and starts running into the normal working day.
Indeed perhaps some logic in the bpstart script to create a lockfile is
useful, but the lock file would need to be removed upon completion or
failure and this would then not give us any benefit when try 2 happens.
If a lock file was used we could do some date matching and perhaps only
run a job if the lockfile was older than x hours ( a lot of date parsing
though which could be difficult ) to touch it again and run the backup.
I'll have to explorer this method.
Cheers
ken_zuf...@goodyear.com wrote:
Dave,
This isn't an ideal fix, but it will work--schedule the backups from
the client. Basically, just put entries in cron (root or oracle will
work) with the commands (or script wrapper around the command) to
launch the backup instead of using the NBU scheduler (will have to
remove current full/incremental schedules and replace with a user
directed that has the appropriate windows). Reason this will work is
because the automatic retries only affects backups launched from the
master...if it's submitted by the client, it will not retry on failure.
Only real issues off the top of my head are:
1) If client is down or doesn't have network connectivity, you won't
see failure to run backup in NBU because the backup will never be
submitted.
2) You lose visibility to backup schedules within NBU.
Ken Zufall
Technical Analyst
D660C
The Goodyear Tire Rubber Company
GTN 446.0592 or 330.796.0592
*Len Boyle len.bo...@sas.com*
Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
04/06/2009 09:30
Re: [Veritas-bu] Number of retries query
Dave Markham wrote:
Sorry correction :-
hours=12
Prev_Job=`bperror -backstat -client oracle mgmt client -hoursago $hours |
awk '$14 == policy { print Client [$12], STATUS [$19] }'`
if [ $Prev_Job ];then
echo ERROR: A previous job has ran in the past [$hours] hours $log
echo $Prev_Job $log
exit 1
fi
and if its use for anyone else here is what i shall implement :-
Prev_Job=`bperror -backstat -client oracle mgmt client -hoursago 12 |
awk '$14 == policy { print Client [$12], STATUS [$19] }'`
if [ $Prev_Job ];then
echo ERROR: A previous job has ran in the past [$hours] hours $log
echo $Prev_Job $log
exit 1
fi
ken_zuf...@goodyear.com wrote:
Wow, glad I don't have your job...that's pretty convoluted :P
But may have an answer, building off the lock file idea...but much
simpler. Just put the logic in the bpstart to check and see if the
policy you're executing has run in the past X hours and failed...if it
has, exit gracefully, if it hasn't, continue the backup.
Quick and dirty logic:
bperror -backstat -hoursago [hours] -l | awk '{print $19,$14}' | grep
-v ^0 | grep [policy_name]
In the above, $19 = backup status code, $14 = policy name. Strip out
any successful backups, grep for the policy name...if it's not null,
you've had a failure in the past X hours.
Of course, there are different ways to parse the bperror output, but
the above would work. In fact, you shouldn't even have to grep out
successes because the process shouldn't be trying to submit the policy
if it's run successfully.
Ken Zufall
Technical Analyst
D660C
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04/07/2009 06:16 AM
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Number of retries query
Thanks guys there are some useful options there.
To give more info we run the RMAN job as follows :-
-We have an oracle admin station which holds various oracle dba scripts.
-We have a policy which controls the scheduling and kicks of a client
backup of this oracle management station and backs up a single file to a
disk storage unit on the master. (simple directory). We backup one file
to stop any status 71
-The reason the policy and schedule is there is to run a bpstart script
on the management station.
-This bpstart script checks no oracle tape dba script is already running
(if it is it exits non zero and obviously gives status 73 in netbackup)
-Once the checks are passed it launches an oracle dba script (not
maintained by me).
-This oracle script talks to 3 oracle RAC servers and works out which
one is running the particular db instance.
-These oracle RAC servers are all Netbackup media servers and they then
initiate the oracle backup through a Netbackup oracle agent on the
relevant media server. This backs up using the application schedules on
the master server for the associated policy with each media server.
(sorry that sounds confusing).
-If the oracle script fails and exits with non zero then in turn our
bpstart script fails with status 73 and we can alert the dbas
We want to launch via netbackup this way so we can trap the exit status
and report to the dbas there has been a problem, plus for it to appear
on a daily report.
The case we have experienced is if a backup fails which could be due to
no tapes or various oracle failures, the dba's don't want an automatic
one running again as it starts doing things with flash recovery areas
and starts running into the normal working day.
Indeed perhaps some logic in the bpstart script to create a lockfile is
useful, but the lock file would need to be removed upon completion or
failure and this would then not give us any benefit when try 2 happens.
If a lock file was used we could do some date matching and perhaps only
run a job if the lockfile was older than x hours ( a lot of date parsing
though which could be difficult ) to touch it again and run the backup.
I'll have to explorer this method.
Cheers
ken_zuf...@goodyear.com wrote:
Dave,
This isn't an ideal fix, but it will work--schedule the backups from
the client. Basically, just put entries in cron (root or oracle will
work) with the commands (or script wrapper around the command) to
launch the backup instead of using the NBU scheduler (will have to
remove current full/incremental schedules and replace with a user
directed that has the appropriate windows). Reason this will work is
because the automatic retries only affects backups launched from the
master...if it's submitted by the client, it will not retry on failure.
Only real issues off the top of my head are:
1) If client is down or doesn't have network connectivity, you won't
see failure to run backup in NBU because
[Veritas-bu] Number of retries query
Guys does anyone know if you can change the number of job retries in xx time period on a per client basis? I currently have the global set at 2 tries per 12 hours which is fine for our needs and good in the fact it will try a failed backup. However the DBA for an RMAN and oracle policy doesn't want this to happen and re-run a backup if there is a failure so i need to try and find a way of setting it to 1 try for just one client. Any ideas? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup speeds with new Ultra320 HBA + LTO3
Reply in line at bottom Justin Piszcz wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Dave Markham wrote: Guys we have installed an Ultra320 HBA into an E220R in slot1 (66mhz) and attached dual scsi to an SL24 with 2 half heigh LTO3 drives. 1 Channel per tape drive. Single Master/Media combo This is all on Solaris 9 with Netbackup 5.0mp7. I wont go into the details but suffice to say the customer won't spend any money on backups but of course needs them to work. We only got the new SL24 due to the previous L1000 falling over constantly and not being able to get support on it easily. Anyway... I have installed all this, but am getting quite poor speeds on backups. doing a ufsdump or tar from base os doesnt get much speed and using netbackup gets higher speeds due to :- /usr/openv/netbackup/db/config/NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS = 16 /usr/openv/netbackup/db/config/SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS = 262144 We have also added the tuning parameters into /etc/system for shared memory etc. I havn't messed with the st.conf and just let the drive do what it wants but was after any tips if that is the next area to focus on. Currently getting about 8 - 25mb/s on backups depending on amount of jobs running. e.g just doing a local backup of master server direct to the drive gets average :- r...@host-sl24# grep Kbytes/sec log.031609 15:26:35.390 [16237] 4 write_backup_completion_stats: successfully wrote 1 of 1 multiplexed backups, total Kbytes 6175485 at 10395.319 Kbytes/sec r...@host-sl24# I need to check the HBA is running at 320. I can't see any messages from dmesg or /var/adm/messages saying its been downgraded to ultra160 but it may be hidden elsewhere? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu What speed is your NIC? Your SIZE data buffers is good but your NUMBER data buffers should probably be set to at least 32. The half-height drives may write a little slower but IMO they should be faster than that speed. Do you have both drives on the same port of the SCSI card? Only attach one drive per-port for maximum speed. What speeds do you get when you, e.g., FTP from boxA to the master? 100MiB/s? Justin. Nic is actually a fibre Gig nick set at 1000mpbs but the network is only 100mbps for the rest of the infastructure. The thing is i'm not doing any network tests as yet and expect better speeds direct attached from the backup server. The HBA has port A connected to Drive 1 and port B connected to Drive 2. Although i can tweak netbackup a bit, i'm just concerned tars and ufsdumps are getting around 10MBps which seems pretty poor. Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape usage for last 15 days
Theres many ways to do this.
I myself use the following depending on what other info i need :-
bpverify -p -sl schedule -hoursago hours | awk '/^Media/ {print $4}'
I use this for finding out DR tapes as all the policies have a DR
schedule and run each day.
You can change -sl sched for -policy policy and you can change
-hoursago for the -s start date -e end date if you wish
You can also use :-
bpimagelist -media -hoursago 375 |awk '{print $1}' (375 = 15 * 24hours)
Add -U or -L for fancier output if required
Baumann, Kevin wrote:
All,
Is there a way to find out how many tapes that I have used in the past
15 days? I don’t need to know what is on the tapes, just if they have
been written to or not.
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance.
-Kevin
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup speeds with new Ultra320 HBA + LTO3
Dude you're preaching to the converted. I actually spend a good month doing a formal document and proposal for server replacement and library plus netbackup upgrade and various improvements over the current set up such as deduplication etc all to be told no we are not spending any money and backups are not important so we will get a new library only I of course then found the hba we had was not compatible with solaris8 and so had to build Os on 2 other disks and swap em out. Complete nightmare. Cheers Justin Piszcz wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Dave Markham wrote: Reply in line at bottom Justin Piszcz wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Dave Markham wrote: Guys we have installed an Ultra320 HBA into an E220R in slot1 (66mhz) and attached dual scsi to an SL24 with 2 half heigh LTO3 drives. 1 Channel per tape drive. Single Master/Media combo This is all on Solaris 9 with Netbackup 5.0mp7. I wont go into the details but suffice to say the customer won't spend any money on backups but of course needs them to work. We only got the new SL24 due to the previous L1000 falling over constantly and not being able to get support on it easily. Anyway... I have installed all this, but am getting quite poor speeds on backups. doing a ufsdump or tar from base os doesnt get much speed and using netbackup gets higher speeds due to :- /usr/openv/netbackup/db/config/NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS = 16 /usr/openv/netbackup/db/config/SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS = 262144 We have also added the tuning parameters into /etc/system for shared memory etc. I havn't messed with the st.conf and just let the drive do what it wants but was after any tips if that is the next area to focus on. Currently getting about 8 - 25mb/s on backups depending on amount of jobs running. e.g just doing a local backup of master server direct to the drive gets average :- r...@host-sl24# grep Kbytes/sec log.031609 15:26:35.390 [16237] 4 write_backup_completion_stats: successfully wrote 1 of 1 multiplexed backups, total Kbytes 6175485 at 10395.319 Kbytes/sec r...@host-sl24# I need to check the HBA is running at 320. I can't see any messages from dmesg or /var/adm/messages saying its been downgraded to ultra160 but it may be hidden elsewhere? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu What speed is your NIC? Your SIZE data buffers is good but your NUMBER data buffers should probably be set to at least 32. The half-height drives may write a little slower but IMO they should be faster than that speed. Do you have both drives on the same port of the SCSI card? Only attach one drive per-port for maximum speed. What speeds do you get when you, e.g., FTP from boxA to the master? 100MiB/s? Justin. Nic is actually a fibre Gig nick set at 1000mpbs but the network is only 100mbps for the rest of the infastructure. The thing is i'm not doing any network tests as yet and expect better speeds direct attached from the backup server. The HBA has port A connected to Drive 1 and port B connected to Drive 2. Although i can tweak netbackup a bit, i'm just concerned tars and ufsdumps are getting around 10MBps which seems pretty poor. Cheers An E220R is a pretty ancient server, I would not expect good speeds from it, unless you are using 10K+ RPM drives and a raid configuration, you are probably not going to get great speed. The last shipment of that type of server was November 2009 and that server was officially released in November 1999. I would suggest replacing it with a HP DL380/385 etc. Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Backup speeds with new Ultra320 HBA + LTO3
Guys we have installed an Ultra320 HBA into an E220R in slot1 (66mhz) and attached dual scsi to an SL24 with 2 half heigh LTO3 drives. 1 Channel per tape drive. Single Master/Media combo This is all on Solaris 9 with Netbackup 5.0mp7. I wont go into the details but suffice to say the customer won't spend any money on backups but of course needs them to work. We only got the new SL24 due to the previous L1000 falling over constantly and not being able to get support on it easily. Anyway... I have installed all this, but am getting quite poor speeds on backups. doing a ufsdump or tar from base os doesnt get much speed and using netbackup gets higher speeds due to :- /usr/openv/netbackup/db/config/NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS = 16 /usr/openv/netbackup/db/config/SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS = 262144 We have also added the tuning parameters into /etc/system for shared memory etc. I havn't messed with the st.conf and just let the drive do what it wants but was after any tips if that is the next area to focus on. Currently getting about 8 - 25mb/s on backups depending on amount of jobs running. e.g just doing a local backup of master server direct to the drive gets average :- r...@host-sl24# grep Kbytes/sec log.031609 15:26:35.390 [16237] 4 write_backup_completion_stats: successfully wrote 1 of 1 multiplexed backups, total Kbytes 6175485 at 10395.319 Kbytes/sec r...@host-sl24# I need to check the HBA is running at 320. I can't see any messages from dmesg or /var/adm/messages saying its been downgraded to ultra160 but it may be hidden elsewhere? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Strange problem after changing storage unit.
Netbackup 5.0MP7 running on Solaris with SL24 Guys i got a bit of weird issue i wondered if anyone could shed some light on. A customer is changing from an L1000 to an SL24, but wants to have the L1000 configured also for historic restores until they expire. In a test bed on same server hardware (e220r) i have built a fresh OS using Sol9 09/05 (needed mpt driver for new Ultra320 HBA installed), cabled up the SL24 with 2 x LTO3 drives in it. - I installed NBU and patched to MP7 as the existing install is. - Then got the catalogues over and did a bprecover -r -dpath path to cats - This recovered everything including the old L1000 storage unit. - I removed the robot and drives using tpconfig, vmadm. - I then configured the new SL24 unit and did an inventory on which brought in the new LTO3 tapes and put them as scratch (as by barcode rules said to do). - I can see all my old media in volume group --- and all my new media in 00_000_TLD - I have left the L1000 storage unit configured in NBU as i want to connect it later, where i will add using correct path etc. - I have changed policies to use the SL24 storage unit Now the problem is when i try and run a backup it is failing with status 96 no media available. I can't understand why as i have new media in which is scratch. Anyone any ideas? Do i need to remove the L1000 storage unit completely? Is something hidden somewhere i need to change? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange problem after changing storage unit.
1. So you took the tapes from the L1000 and put them into an SL24? No, The new unit is LTO3 and we have brand new tapes with new barcodes. The reason i have restored catalogue is so we have historic data. My idea was to hook up the L1000 when we transfer this server down, configure it and then be able to restore from it, but not use it to backup 2. I am assuming the media servers did not change? Just a simple master/media in one box. With some remote network clients. Currently i'm building this in the lap so have E220 connected via scsi to SL24 with 2 x LTO3 drives and 20 odd LTO3 tapes with new barcodes. 3. Did the drve tapes stay the same? No. The new tapes are hcart3 and the old ones are DLT. The policies have changed to use new storage unit, but i wasn't aware you needed to change tape types at all? 4. Did you inventory the library and make sure the media is scratch? Yeah inventory all works and matches up with physical. The new volume group 00_000_TLD sees tapes in correct slots. 5. Is the barcode reader in the new robot inventorying the tapes the same way as the old one? New altogether. Justin Piszcz wrote: On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Dave Markham wrote: Netbackup 5.0MP7 running on Solaris with SL24 Guys i got a bit of weird issue i wondered if anyone could shed some light on. A customer is changing from an L1000 to an SL24, but wants to have the L1000 configured also for historic restores until they expire. In a test bed on same server hardware (e220r) i have built a fresh OS using Sol9 09/05 (needed mpt driver for new Ultra320 HBA installed), cabled up the SL24 with 2 x LTO3 drives in it. - I installed NBU and patched to MP7 as the existing install is. - Then got the catalogues over and did a bprecover -r -dpath path to cats - This recovered everything including the old L1000 storage unit. - I removed the robot and drives using tpconfig, vmadm. - I then configured the new SL24 unit and did an inventory on which brought in the new LTO3 tapes and put them as scratch (as by barcode rules said to do). - I can see all my old media in volume group --- and all my new media in 00_000_TLD - I have left the L1000 storage unit configured in NBU as i want to connect it later, where i will add using correct path etc. - I have changed policies to use the SL24 storage unit Now the problem is when i try and run a backup it is failing with status 96 no media available. I can't understand why as i have new media in which is scratch. Anyone any ideas? Do i need to remove the L1000 storage unit completely? Is something hidden somewhere i need to change? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu 1. So you took the tapes from the L1000 and put them into an SL24? 2. I am assuming the media servers did not change? 3. Did the drve tapes stay the same? 4. Did you inventory the library and make sure the media is scratch? 5. Is the barcode reader in the new robot inventorying the tapes the same way as the old one? -- Wait, I know, at least in NetBackup 5.1x, you've hit the catalog restore bug! The bug is this: After you recover the catalog it de-activates your scratch pool! Right click the Scratch volume pool, and select [x] Enable/Scratch Pool! This got me a few times as well :) Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange problem after changing storage unit.
Dude i totally didn't read to the bottom of your email. Thats exactly what has happened. Its now working. Fantastic. What a star. How would i have found that out? Dear me. Cheers Justin Piszcz wrote: On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Dave Markham wrote: Netbackup 5.0MP7 running on Solaris with SL24 Guys i got a bit of weird issue i wondered if anyone could shed some light on. A customer is changing from an L1000 to an SL24, but wants to have the L1000 configured also for historic restores until they expire. In a test bed on same server hardware (e220r) i have built a fresh OS using Sol9 09/05 (needed mpt driver for new Ultra320 HBA installed), cabled up the SL24 with 2 x LTO3 drives in it. - I installed NBU and patched to MP7 as the existing install is. - Then got the catalogues over and did a bprecover -r -dpath path to cats - This recovered everything including the old L1000 storage unit. - I removed the robot and drives using tpconfig, vmadm. - I then configured the new SL24 unit and did an inventory on which brought in the new LTO3 tapes and put them as scratch (as by barcode rules said to do). - I can see all my old media in volume group --- and all my new media in 00_000_TLD - I have left the L1000 storage unit configured in NBU as i want to connect it later, where i will add using correct path etc. - I have changed policies to use the SL24 storage unit Now the problem is when i try and run a backup it is failing with status 96 no media available. I can't understand why as i have new media in which is scratch. Anyone any ideas? Do i need to remove the L1000 storage unit completely? Is something hidden somewhere i need to change? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu 1. So you took the tapes from the L1000 and put them into an SL24? 2. I am assuming the media servers did not change? 3. Did the drve tapes stay the same? 4. Did you inventory the library and make sure the media is scratch? 5. Is the barcode reader in the new robot inventorying the tapes the same way as the old one? -- Wait, I know, at least in NetBackup 5.1x, you've hit the catalog restore bug! The bug is this: After you recover the catalog it de-activates your scratch pool! Right click the Scratch volume pool, and select [x] Enable/Scratch Pool! This got me a few times as well :) Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange problem after changing storage unit.
Good call!! Cheers Stafford, Geoff wrote: Set your catalog to backup the vm.conf file so when you restore the catalog it brings that file back. Right click catalog/configure catalog backup/files tab/add path to vm.conf. **Geoff Stafford** Barclaycard US Data Protection Team Manager office: mobile: Message: 13 Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:06:28 + From: Dave Markham dave.mark...@fjserv.net Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange problem after changing storage unit. To: Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.com Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: 49afdc64.5090...@fjserv.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Dude i totally didn't read to the bottom of your email. Thats exactly what has happened. Its now working. Fantastic. What a star. How would i have found that out? Dear me. Cheers Justin Piszcz wrote: On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Dave Markham wrote: Netbackup 5.0MP7 running on Solaris with SL24 Guys i got a bit of weird issue i wondered if anyone could shed some light on. A customer is changing from an L1000 to an SL24, but wants to have the L1000 configured also for historic restores until they expire. In a test bed on same server hardware (e220r) i have built a fresh OS using Sol9 09/05 (needed mpt driver for new Ultra320 HBA installed), cabled up the SL24 with 2 x LTO3 drives in it. - I installed NBU and patched to MP7 as the existing install is. - Then got the catalogues over and did a bprecover -r -dpath path to cats - This recovered everything including the old L1000 storage unit. - I removed the robot and drives using tpconfig, vmadm. - I then configured the new SL24 unit and did an inventory on which brought in the new LTO3 tapes and put them as scratch (as by barcode rules said to do). - I can see all my old media in volume group --- and all my new media in 00_000_TLD - I have left the L1000 storage unit configured in NBU as i want to connect it later, where i will add using correct path etc. - I have changed policies to use the SL24 storage unit Now the problem is when i try and run a backup it is failing with status 96 no media available. I can't understand why as i have new media in which is scratch. Anyone any ideas? Do i need to remove the L1000 storage unit completely? Is something hidden somewhere i need to change? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu 1. So you took the tapes from the L1000 and put them into an SL24? 2. I am assuming the media servers did not change? 3. Did the drve tapes stay the same? 4. Did you inventory the library and make sure the media is scratch? 5. Is the barcode reader in the new robot inventorying the tapes the same way as the old one? -- Wait, I know, at least in NetBackup 5.1x, you've hit the catalog restore bug! The bug is this: After you recover the catalog it de-activates your scratch pool! Right click the Scratch volume pool, and select [x] Enable/Scratch Pool! This got me a few times as well :) Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Barclays www.barclaycardus.com ___ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential and/or proprietary information. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity who is the intended recipient. Unauthorized use of this information is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender by replying to this message and delete this material from any system it may be on. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Just how smart is Netbackup on restores? (Full/Cumu/Incr)
Surprisingly if its possible i'd recommend the gui. I normaslly do most things command line but from what i understand if you picked the files/volumes you want on the gui Netbackup will only show you the latest revision of that file it knows about. Hence any file done on a full backup overwritten by a cumulative and even subsequent diff inc will be shown. This means selecting it will select the latest images the file was successfully backed up on. Hope that makes sense. I'd then guess that if the gui behaves in this way, by putting the date range to bprestore it would too. You could run a bpduplicate command without doing the duplicate to see what media would be needed? You could then back track using bpimagelist if its picked the correct tapes? D Donaldson, Mark wrote: I've got a set of policies that follow a pattern of: Monthly - Full Weekly - Cumulative Incremental Daily - Differential Incremental If it's been 20 days from the last full, then what I need is the full backup from 20 days ago, then a big skip to the previous cumulative the incrementals from just that cumulative. If I define a 20 day restore range in my command, though, I'm not sure that Netbackup isn't restoring *all* backups including the unneeded ones between the full and the latest cumulative. Make sense? An example, my images for one filesystem: 12/05/2008 10:26:45 Monthly /vol/fs03/ 12/06/2008 19:46:11 Incr /vol/fs03/ 12/07/2008 20:07:50 Incr /vol/fs03/ 12/08/2008 18:35:59 Incr /vol/fs03/ 12/09/2008 15:45:30 Incr /vol/fs03/ 12/10/2008 16:06:20 Incr /vol/fs03/ 12/11/2008 12:57:15 Incr /vol/fs03/ 12/12/2008 13:27:55 Cumu /vol/fs03/ 12/13/2008 18:52:48 Incr /vol/fs03/ 12/14/2008 18:44:20 Incr /vol/fs03/ 12/15/2008 16:26:47 Incr /vol/fs03/ 12/16/2008 15:39:36 Incr /vol/fs03/ 12/17/2008 15:23:43 Incr /vol/fs03/ 12/18/2008 10:27:52 Incr /vol/fs03/ 12/19/2008 10:14:00 Cumu /vol/fs03/ 12/20/2008 13:41:58 Incr /vol/fs03/ 12/21/2008 15:20:24 Incr /vol/fs03/ 12/23/2008 10:42:47 Incr /vol/fs03/ OK - now if I want /vol/fs03 back to its best state as of 12/23, I need to restore the 12/5 full the 12/19 through 12/23 incrementals. The incrementals from 12/6 to 12/18 are included in the 12/19 Cumulative so I don't want to waste my time (and in fact, may contain data that we deleted and we want don't want to restore). What I want to issue is one smart command: bprestore -s 12/5/2008 -e 12/23/2008 /vol/fs03. I want 5 images to come back. If Netbackup does it dumb, then this is two restore statements: bprestore -s 12/5/2008 -e 12/5/2008 /vol/fs03 bprestore -s 12/19/2008 -e 12/23/2008 /vol/fs03 So, in response to the single smart command, will Netbackup restore just 5 images or do a dumb restore and put all the incrementals between 12/6 12/18 back, too? I know I could write a test for this but it's easier right now to see if one of you knows. -M ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] New Library upgrade procedure Scenario 1.
Guys we have a strange upgrade predicament i could do with running by the scene. I am splitting this into 2 threads to find pros/cons of 2 solutions im thinking about. Also to try and keep the mail shorter. Current Situation :- Sun E220R (running Solaris 8) Netbackup Server with attached L1000 tape unit + 4 x DLT drives. Netbackup 5.0MP7. Hardware is beyond old but customer is reluctant to upgrade. We have told them we cannot support the L1000 unit and their backups are at risk. It has gone EOSL and parts are increasingly hard to source. The initial proposal is to replace with an SL24 tape unit and LTO3 drives. Problem :- We are requesting a SCSI Ultra320 HBA to install and attach the new SL24 unit onto. Problem is the card is not compatible with the Solaris 8 (release 06/00) which is installed. We therefore need to upgrade solaris. Disk space is very limited (2 x internal 18gig disks raid 1) and doing an OS upgrade wouldn't leave us with much of a regression path. Proposal 1. One thought is to buy 2 * 36 gig disks. We have a spare E220R we could build a Solaris9 release on as fresh install and it would include the mpt drivers for the card. We could then install Netbackup and attach the SL24 and get everything working in a test environment. Then ship the disks, hba and SL24 down to datacenter and swap them with the current disks in the server. Perform a reconfigure reboot and voilà hopefully all would be working. This leads to some issues :- As it would be a fresh Netbackup install it would have no knowledge of old backups. We are proposing leaving the L1000 connected initially, but turning it on after /dev/rmt links are created with the SL24. This is so the L1000 drives will appear later and i can just re-add the L1000 as a new storage unit. Questions :- I'm assuming i can't recover the Netbackup catalogues onto a new Netbackup install as it will overwrite my newly created SL24 storage unit. Is this correct? Could i recover only certain portions of the catalogue? e.g /opt/openv/netbackup/db only? Could i transfer disk copies of the catalogues (bpbackup -dpath) up to my test environment, restore them and then configure the new SL24. Then when i transfer the disks and kit down to the datacenter and swap in to the machine with the L1000 i'd simply discover that device and call the L1000 storage unit the same as what it was and this would allow me to do restores from the L1000 ? The end game is to be able to duplicate some older L1000 written backup images onto new LTO3 tapes. I'm assuming i can do this with bpduplicate and specify the old storage unit and backup images i should now have recovered. Does this seem like a viable option? Other alternative is to not do a bprecover and do lots of L1000 tape imports to build the old images information. Problem with that is customer will have long period of inability to restore older images. Scenario 2 to follow is around having a whole new server with new version of Netbackup 6 on. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] New Library upgrade procedure Scenario 2
Guys we have a strange upgrade predicament i could do with running by the scene. I am splitting this into 2 threads to find pros/cons of 2 solutions im thinking about. Also to try and keep the mail shorter. Current Situation :- Sun E220R (running Solaris 8) Netbackup Server with attached L1000 tape unit + 4 x DLT drives. Netbackup 5.0MP7. Hardware is beyond old but customer is reluctant to upgrade. We have told them we cannot support the L1000 unit and their backups are at risk. It has gone EOSL and parts are increasingly hard to source. The initial proposal is to replace with an SL24 tape unit and LTO3 drives. Problem :- We are requesting a SCSI Ultra320 HBA to install and attach the new SL24 unit onto. Problem is the card is not compatible with the Solaris 8 (release 06/00) which is installed. We therefore need to upgrade solaris. Disk space is very limited (2 x internal 18gig disks raid 1) and doing an OS upgrade wouldn't leave us with much of a regression path. Proposal 2. (proposal 1 discussed in previous thread). The second option i was considering of putting to the customer was to buy a new server all together and get new netbackup licenses. This is going to cost more but will leave them in a better position for the future, plus should minimise man time in doing some steps mentioned in proposal 1. I would install new OS and SL24 onto a new server and install Netbackup 6.x (to be decided). The question i have is how do i still restore older backups? We could install this server in line with the existing server (L1000 connected) but then i would have 2 netbackup master servers. Questions: Is there any way to downgrade an existing Master to a Media server. Then transfer the catalogues from that media server to the new master server i am building? Once done could i then duplicate some older L1000 tapes over the network to the SL24 connected to the new master or would i have to directly attach the L1000 to the new server and create it as a new storage unit calling it the same name as before? Any other thoughts how i could get the catalogue info from an older server onto a newer one to give me ability to duplicate? One pro of this system is we could restore older images using the older server while the new server took the job of doing backups from now on. Thoughts? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] 6.5 linux client software help
Guys i'm being put under pressure by management to assist in a system, i've had nothing to do with design and build, to get a linux redhat client installed for NBU 6.5 As far as i can ascertain the master/media is a windows server. I'm a solaris engineer and know if the master were unix i could simply push the correct client software out to the linux client. With windows i assume this is not possible?? Which brings me to where to i get the linux 6.5 client software from? I don't have the media. On the symantec site i see various patches for 6.5.1 CLT containing all the client binaries, but this is normally installed on the unix server isn't it? Can this just be installed on a linux client as is with no previous version on it? Any pointers would be appreciated Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Best exclude list for Windows, solaris, linux ?
I currently have this as a starting point for windows i386 found.0* $NTUninstall* pagefile.sys TMP c:\winnt\temp c:\windows\temp C:\*\system32\perflib_perfdata_* *.tmp c:\*\*\Local Settings\Temp NTUSER.dat RECYCLER ..and this for unix. (solaris) /tmp core /proc /etc/mnttab /cdrom /var/run /dev/fd /var/tmp I saw a reply post saying you can put a file in \installpath\program files\veritas\netbackup called exclude_list with entries in. I know for unix you have /usr/openv/netbackup/exclude_list etc but wasn't aware the same could be done for windows is this true? I'm primarily a unix engineer but for windows i find creating a .reg file is useful for install purposes. cheers toaster wrote: Hi guys, I was wondering what was your exlude list on Windows client? I found only 1 mention of this on symantec site: http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/182189.htm witch is : C:\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin\bpdbm.lock C:\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin\bprd.d\*.lock C:\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin\bprd.lock C:\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin\bpsched.d\*.lock C:\VERITAS\Volmgr\misc\* But i think that i can include more like: c:\temp c:\windows\temp What else can be exlude for backup?Same question for Solaris, Linux client :) +-- |This was sent by hero...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.5 linux client software help
Cheers i am just downloading NetBackup_6.5_Linux2.4.tar.gz from the fileconnect site after getting a serial number from the project manager. Issue is i only need the client software, so am a bit unsure how or what needs installing as i have always pushed software out from unix master or media servers before. I'm assuming getting the linux tar file is the master server software but gives the option to install client only? Question then is do i assume i dont need the 6.5_CLIENTS1,2 or 3 tars, plus the patches from the ftp site for linux suggest i need the CLT patch as a prerequisite, but i've only installed these on masters before and updated clients. With the master being windows i'm a bit stuck. I'm trying to read documentation but as you probably know it sends you all over the place referencing diff docs etc. Cheers Spearman, David wrote: Dave, Assuming you have access to the licensing portal you can download all the master software from there. It is still a painful thing to wind your way through but it is available. After that the patches can be downloaded from the ftp site. https://licensing.symantec.com/acctmgmt/index.jsp David Spearman County of Henrico -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:05 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] 6.5 linux client software help Guys i'm being put under pressure by management to assist in a system, i've had nothing to do with design and build, to get a linux redhat client installed for NBU 6.5 As far as i can ascertain the master/media is a windows server. I'm a solaris engineer and know if the master were unix i could simply push the correct client software out to the linux client. With windows i assume this is not possible?? Which brings me to where to i get the linux 6.5 client software from? I don't have the media. On the symantec site i see various patches for 6.5.1 CLT containing all the client binaries, but this is normally installed on the unix server isn't it? Can this just be installed on a linux client as is with no previous version on it? Any pointers would be appreciated Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running
This is actually something which happens to me quite regularly so i believe symantec need to take notice of it. My case is slightly different in that i have a number of policies for different SSO Media servers. Out of the blue one of the policies does just not schedule to run yet no change has been made to it. A manual backup works fine yet still no scheduled backup works. The only way i have been able to get around it is this :- Copy the policy to a new name Delete the old policy Copy the new name policy back to the original name Delete the new name policy. I'd like to know why this happens too as as you say its not picked up in the activity monitor. I have it on my list to check that my report script has a known list of clients and to alert if any of them are not present in the daily report. This i have not yet gotten around to doing though. Cheers Tageson, Jim wrote: We uncovered a situation recently where some client backups in scheduled policies were not running at all. These clients were in active policies with several other clients which were running just fine. We discovered a total of 4 clients in 2 policies which were just not running their backups at all. Other clients in these 2 policies were being scheduled as expected. We went for 19 days without backups running on these 4 clients. Since they never were scheduled, there were obviously no errors in Netbackup at all and we didn’t know we had a problem until someone requested a restore and we saw no backups had run. We opened a ticket with Symantec and they have escalated it to the highest level. The problem was finally resolved by a recycle of the Netbackup daemons, but no cause has been determined due to lack of log files during the time of the problem. Symantec believes the policies somehow got corrupted and they believe this is an isolated issue and probably will not occur again. However if you are not monitoring to see if all your scheduled backups are actually running, you will never know you have a problem. This is just to alert other users of this issue and to urge them to make sure that this is not a widespread problem. We are currently running Netbackup 6.0MP6 on an AIX master server. **Jim Tageson** **Netbackup Administrator** **BayCare Health System** Phone: 727-467-4586 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Confidential: This electronic message and all contents contain information from BayCare Health System which may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify the sender and destroy the original message and all copies. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6 MP7 update on Clustered Media Servers help
Guys im updating a NBU 6Mp4 Solaris environment to Mp7. I have Master (solaris9 MP4) Performing it on the Master first obviously and then was going to remotely install on 3 SSO Media servers (part of an oracle RAC). It says this is possible in the patch readme but i haven't performed a remote mp pack install before (apart from network based clients using update_clients). Is it just an option when you run the mp install script? If this remote upgrade works fine then i want to adopt the approach on 2 further SSO Media servers (both at nbu6 mp4) which have a clustered nbu install using VCS. I don't have root access to the machines see (dont' ask), but i can freeze the netbackup resource group under VCS as the role access i have allows me access to do that. My question is can this be done as follows :- 1. Install mp7 on master (clt + solaris) 2. Connect to inactive cluster media server 3. Freeze netbackup cluster resource 4. Remote install from the master to the inactive cluster node 5. Remote install from the master to the active cluster node 6. Unfreeze cluster resource. Anything else i need to do? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Pushing unix clients
I'm not sure on 6.5 but on previous versions you need to be in the client directory OS you want to upgrade dont you? e.g to install to a solaris 10 client i would :- cd /usr/openv/netbackup/client/Solaris/Solaris10 ./install_client_files client Cheers Klebba, Don wrote: We’re currently running 6.5.2a on a Solaris Master. We’re trying to upgrade our unix clients by pushing the software, using the ssh method, using the Install_client_files located in /usr/openv/netbackup/bin and we keep getting a error saying that install_client is not found In the client directory that we are trying to upgrade. When we look into that directory, the install_client is there. Has anyone else run across this and how do you get it to work? Don Klebba Quicken Loans Storage Management Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] _phone: (734)805-7791 cell: (734)634-7486 _ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU catalog backups hot vs cold
Thanks guys. Some good responses there and yes i can now see why its a good idea and extremely useful for people who don't have down time. My systems are not large enough for me to hit that problem thankfully and so it hasn't been a requirement of mine as yet. I think what i am best doing is enabling hot backups but to run during the day when i can assume most of the jobs have finished. If a job is still running the information for that will be backed up on the next catalogue hot backup, which while will leave me exposed should everything hit the fan before this second hot backup has ran, will still leave me with the majority of good images. Cheers Dave Markham wrote: guys i'm newish to version 6 and one of the big things is it's ability to run hot catalogue backups. Im on solaris with various media servers yada yada I'm just confused as to why running a hot catalogue backup, potentially when other backups are running, is a good thing? I have the catalogues cold backed up when scheduled backups have finished. This runs automatically. I also do a second catalogue backup to disk (invoked from a script calling bpbackupdb -dpath) which waits until any job has finished before running. I just assume this is the best way as you get an up to date latest catalogue backup after the nights backups have finished. Can someone enlighten me or point me to a white paper as to why the hot method is better? I'm sure it is i just can't get it into my small head why at the mo :) Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NBU catalog backups hot vs cold
guys i'm newish to version 6 and one of the big things is it's ability to run hot catalogue backups. Im on solaris with various media servers yada yada I'm just confused as to why running a hot catalogue backup, potentially when other backups are running, is a good thing? I have the catalogues cold backed up when scheduled backups have finished. This runs automatically. I also do a second catalogue backup to disk (invoked from a script calling bpbackupdb -dpath) which waits until any job has finished before running. I just assume this is the best way as you get an up to date latest catalogue backup after the nights backups have finished. Can someone enlighten me or point me to a white paper as to why the hot method is better? I'm sure it is i just can't get it into my small head why at the mo :) Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] job retries per client
Guys i know there is the global attribute on the master server for n tries within x hours ( currently set at 2 per 12 hours ) but does anyone know if this can be tailored anywhere per client or ideally per client and policy? The situation is we have a bpstart script on a management box which runs an oracle RMAN script to initiate a backup from oracle RAC back through the netbackup oracle agent to policies configured. Within the bpstart script i have captured the exit status from the RMAN script and if it is other than 0 it causes bpstart script to fail so we know there has been a problem. What seems to have happened is there has been a fail somewhere and then the job has ran again. This has caused a second RMAN script to run which has caused problems. I have increased the bpstart time out per client but i would like to be able for it only to try a job once within 12 hours. That possible? Netbackup 6.0Mp4 Solaris9/10 Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] bpstart timeout not honoured
Guys i have a bpstart script on a client which initiates an RMAN backup (i just emailed about it 2 mins ago for a different reason). As the RMAN backup takes some time i have put the following into bp.conf on the client that initiates the bpstart CLIENT_READ_TIMEOUT = 24000 BPSTART_TIMEOUT = 2400 After some investigation it seems a job has exited with status 74 after 11000 seconds saying bpstart failed to complete. It then causes the script to run again as i have retries per 12 hours set to 2. Anyone any idea why the time out is not being honoured for the client? Cheers Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] nbcc error on nbu 5 to 6 upgrade
Guys i'm doing an upgrade and have an error when running nbcc. Solaris 8 on sparc going from nbu 5.0 to 6.0mp4 The error is :- CONSISTENCY_ERROR Oper_16_4 on the media db pass (2 of 3) I have found this from googling and its going to be difficult to get a case opened quickly (due to work politics) so i'm wondering if anyone has any experience remedy advise? - Media DB Integrity Operational Checks: Oper_16_4 - Occurs during the checking of the Media DB. This inconsistency code indicates that the media ID is assigned in the Volume DB, that there are no images in the Image DB and that the media has not already been targeted to be FROZEN. Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] ZFS Filesystem Backups - Tips and tricks
Am i right in assuming you are using multiple data streams? Only reason i ask if if you are not, as long as one of the directories exist on at least one of the servers then you shouldn't get a status 71 when the file list is done sequentially. e.g box1 has /data1 box2 has /data2 box3 has /data3 If the file list is /data1 /data2 /data3 NBU (afaik) will backup /data1 on box1 and then simple miss out /data2 and /data3 giving a WRN messages somewhere without updating the end job status to be 71. I think its just if none of the files in the file list exist you get the 71. Of course if you are using multiple data streams then each dir will be counted as a job and i would totally expect your results. It may just help others :) Cheers Mark Glazerman wrote: Incase anyone is considering implementing any ZFS in their environment which they want to back up using NetBackup we found out yesterday that ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES as the backup selection does NOT cover ZFS filesystems. We have a number of Sun boxes which have various test and development oracle instances which are housed inside ZFS file systems. We blew away one of these test instances the other day (after doing a full OS backup and the required RMAN backups) but when we went to restore the data from the ZFS filesystems, NBU didn’t have anything under the uppermost directory. A quick check of other systems with ZFS showed the same issue.We spent the better part of 2 days playing around with the include_list’s and exclude_list’s but nothing worked. In order to backup ZFS file systems you must explicitly add the ZFS directories into the backup selections of the backup policy. This “fix” was also confirmed by Symantec support who were also happy to tell me that ZFS isn’t officially supported by NBU yet. This on its own should work great if you have a single policy backing up a single server with all it’s ZFS under the same parent directory. However, if like us, you have a backup policy which backs up multiple servers, each with their own uniquely named ZFS file systems, you need to get a bit creative. The policy in question backs up 15 Sun boxes with a total of 6 differently named ZFS file systems spread amongst them. If you just list the file systems in the backup selections, NBU looks for each of those different filesystems on each server and spits out an error code 71 (None of the files in the file list exist) for every directory it can’t find. The only way we could work out to avoid these errors (and there were a lot of them) was to create every missing directory on every server and then touch a tiny file inside each of these directories. Now when the policy runs, it sees each directory (as listed in the backup selection) on each server and doesn’t moan about anything. Perhaps not the neatest of fixes but it works. Apologies for the wordy post, just thought I’d put this info out there in case anyone else is moving towards ZFS. *Mark Glazerman* *Enterprise Storage Administrator* *Spartech Corporation* Desk: 314-889-8282 Fax: 314-854-8282 Cell: 618-520-3401 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *http://www.spartech.com* http://www.spartech.com/ P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential, are intended solely for the use of the addressee, and may be legally privileged. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately, and do not copy or forward it. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] upgrade licenses
Guys can anyone just tell me where to look for licensing info. Its all a bit confusing to me as i dont have a direct route into symantec and am being asked questions. We are doing an upgrade from 5.0 to 6.0mp4 and i'm just wondering if i need any licenses or if the ones we have for 5 will work fine. We dont have support licenses see as they have expired some time ago and not been renewed. Cheers Platform Solaris. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] upgrade licenses
Ed Wilts wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:18 AM, Dave Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are doing an upgrade from 5.0 to 6.0mp4 and i'm just wondering if i need any licenses or if the ones we have for 5 will work fine. The licenses you have will work, BUT you will not have features that are enabled by 6.x such as BMR or client-based security. Ideally, you'd get updated license keys. So says the guy who still has some 3.4 keys... We dont have support licenses see as they have expired some time ago and not been renewed. If you don't have support, are you sure you're entitled to install the latest release? IANAL, but most licenses don't give you the right to updates unless you're paying for support. .../Ed Thanks Ed. Indeed i'm not sure then if i am entitled to the latest release although we have it installed on many other platforms. The issue i have is i don't handle purchasing or quoting and am just an engineer who designs,implements,supports stuff. I'll feed this back through the chain though and let someone above make the decision. Thanks for input Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Netbackup verify at write time
Guys management here are fussing around how are we sure backups are successful or they can be restored from without doing an actual restore. I was under the impressions that some sort of verify or sum check operation was done at write time and that if a status 0 was returned it was a pretty good indication backups would be able to be restored. Taking all physical factors aside ( e.g tapes being bashed around making them unusable ) the other way to verify is using bpverify but i'm just wondering if its needed. Anyone shed any light on this for me? I know the only sure fire way of knowing a backup is fine is performing a restore, but unless a full restore is done (which has its own problems of space etc) then what other assurances are there? Netbackup 5.0MP7, 6.0MP4 on a mixture of Solaris 9 and 10 Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Shared memory issue with Solaris 10
I'd be interested in this too, as i'd heard you didnt need to bother with /etc/system tuning in Solaris 10. Cheers Justin Piszcz wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, NBU wrote: Hi forum, I have a Master and 3 media server on solaris 9 having Netbackup 6.0 MP4. Recently added new media server with solaris 10. Problem which i am facing is when the load increases (Schedule starts) backup start failing with error code 89. Experts need your help on this. thanks +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Error 89 is shared memory problems, read the archive on how to fix that for Solaris 10, generally you need to increase your SHMMAX value in the kernel (Linux) in Solaris it has been awhile :) Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] MPT driver and SG
Does anyone know where i can find compatibility with a new Sun SL24 unit and Netbackup v5.0MP7 on Solaris 8. I'm having no joy on the sunsolve site. Will the normal sg driver be able to see it? It will be using LTO3 drives. Cheers Martin Ruslan wrote: Hi Jon, I've looked to the NBU6.5 HCL, and the SL24 supported either with FC, or SCSI. Since you already upgraded to 6.5.2, and Symantec already released the 6.5.2a, why don't you try to go with it. you can check here: http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/305652.htm there's some robot issue fixed on this release version. mTz On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Jon Bousselot [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the Sparc Solaris 10 system: SL500 library, two LTO4 drives - fiber. L100 library, two LTO3 drives - all scsi. The L100 is currently connected to a Solaris 9 system, and is working fine, but I need to move it to the Solaris 10 T2000 system. On the x86 system: SL24, one LTO4 drive, cannot attach to the robot after 6.5.2 patch, and had a lot of problems finding the robot at 6.5. -Jon - Original Message From: Martin Ruslan [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 8:24:08 PM Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] MPT driver and SG Hi Jon.. How many tape library do you have? and can you give the tape library brand and type? looks like you need to do the device mappings. And btw, if you only had one tape library, the robot only attached to one master/media server. unless you partitioned it regards, mTz On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Jon Bousselot [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.auscert.org.au/render.html?it=9490 Has anyone encountered this bug and the documented workaround did not fix the problem? I've encountered a variety of problems that I can relate to this. 1. Sun Sparc system with fiber attached tape/robot, had the bad patches but not the workaround, and sg sees the tapes and robot just fine. The sg driver worked fine at version 6.5 and 6.5.2. http://6.5.2. 2. Same Sun Sparc system with scsi card added, workaround patches applied, and sg cannot see the robot on the scsi bus, only the drives. The robot and drives on the fiber card are still there and working just fine. 3. Sun x86 system with fiber attached tape, did not have the workaround, sg sees only the tape. After the workaround, sg sees the tape and robot and I could setup the devices. After 6.5.2 patch, sg does not see the robot any more. I've done the sg.build, and run sgscan a dozen times. Reconfigure boots, devfsadm, cfgadm, luxadm probe... it seems Solaris can see all the devices down either type of controller, but SG refuses to bind to the robot. On the Sparc system, I'm moving the library off of a working 6.5.2 Solaris 9 media server that is being decommissioned, so I know the library and drives are good. The x86 system is a new install. -Jon ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange schedule problem
Seems this did the trick but was a last resort. Hopefully people will remember the old policy name should they wish to restore :) Very odd why it happened all of a sudden though. cheers to all Troy Schuler wrote: Recreate the policy with a new name. NBU has problems periodically from release to release with this. The only workaround was to delete the policy and recreate it with a completely different name. Do not copy the policy to a new policy. Start from scratch. Troy Schuler (314) 807-6169 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:21 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange schedule problem And something else odd now i cannot run a manual backup of the policy. Very strange!! Anyone know why that would be? D Dave Markham wrote: No joy im afraid :( I tried as below and also tried stopping all daemons, moving /usr/openv/netbackup/db/jobs/pempersist to a .old file and restarting services on the master. Still no joy. I copied the policy to a new one, deleted the old one and then copied the copy back to the policy of the same original name and no joy. I have created a new schedule within the policy and that has not ran. Also now when running nbpemreq -predict -date 07/19/2008 00:00:00 it doesn't show the policy in the list but shows all the others. Any more suggestions? I cant seem to find a log for nbpem either and the man page for vxlogcfg doesn't lead me in any direction. Cheers Abhishek Dhingra1 wrote: The problem is with the nbpem . run the command nbpemreq -resume_scheduling, and wait for some time. or if that didnot worked for you , kill the nbpem process, clear the *pem.ior files under /usr/openv/var and restart the nbpem daemon by running nbpem command. if above doesnot work , increease the logging level of nbpem(117) using the command vxlogcfg command Abhishek Dhingra IBM Global Services, Delhi, Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile : +91-9818675370 *Dave Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17/07/08 06:34 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Strange schedule problem Guys i have Master server (NBU 6.0MP4) and a number of media servers and clients. One media server which is SSO Media server sharing drives is NBU 5.0MP7 and has been fine but all of a sudden as stopped automatically running backups. We can run manual ones fine but its as though the scheduling system isnt working for it or something. Anyone any pointers as to where to look? There isn't a bpsched log directory on the master server with NBU6 so i'm a bit stuck. Everything else is working ok. Cheers This is all on Solaris, and please no need for replies with Why not upgrade to 6 on the media server i know i know and i'm trying to get it passed by service management. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange schedule problem
No joy im afraid :( I tried as below and also tried stopping all daemons, moving /usr/openv/netbackup/db/jobs/pempersist to a .old file and restarting services on the master. Still no joy. I copied the policy to a new one, deleted the old one and then copied the copy back to the policy of the same original name and no joy. I have created a new schedule within the policy and that has not ran. Also now when running nbpemreq -predict -date 07/19/2008 00:00:00 it doesn't show the policy in the list but shows all the others. Any more suggestions? I cant seem to find a log for nbpem either and the man page for vxlogcfg doesn't lead me in any direction. Cheers Abhishek Dhingra1 wrote: The problem is with the nbpem . run the command nbpemreq -resume_scheduling, and wait for some time. or if that didnot worked for you , kill the nbpem process, clear the *pem.ior files under /usr/openv/var and restart the nbpem daemon by running nbpem command. if above doesnot work , increease the logging level of nbpem(117) using the command vxlogcfg command Abhishek Dhingra IBM Global Services, Delhi, Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile : +91-9818675370 *Dave Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17/07/08 06:34 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Strange schedule problem Guys i have Master server (NBU 6.0MP4) and a number of media servers and clients. One media server which is SSO Media server sharing drives is NBU 5.0MP7 and has been fine but all of a sudden as stopped automatically running backups. We can run manual ones fine but its as though the scheduling system isnt working for it or something. Anyone any pointers as to where to look? There isn't a bpsched log directory on the master server with NBU6 so i'm a bit stuck. Everything else is working ok. Cheers This is all on Solaris, and please no need for replies with Why not upgrade to 6 on the media server i know i know and i'm trying to get it passed by service management. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange schedule problem
And something else odd now i cannot run a manual backup of the policy. Very strange!! Anyone know why that would be? D Dave Markham wrote: No joy im afraid :( I tried as below and also tried stopping all daemons, moving /usr/openv/netbackup/db/jobs/pempersist to a .old file and restarting services on the master. Still no joy. I copied the policy to a new one, deleted the old one and then copied the copy back to the policy of the same original name and no joy. I have created a new schedule within the policy and that has not ran. Also now when running nbpemreq -predict -date 07/19/2008 00:00:00 it doesn't show the policy in the list but shows all the others. Any more suggestions? I cant seem to find a log for nbpem either and the man page for vxlogcfg doesn't lead me in any direction. Cheers Abhishek Dhingra1 wrote: The problem is with the nbpem . run the command nbpemreq -resume_scheduling, and wait for some time. or if that didnot worked for you , kill the nbpem process, clear the *pem.ior files under /usr/openv/var and restart the nbpem daemon by running nbpem command. if above doesnot work , increease the logging level of nbpem(117) using the command vxlogcfg command Abhishek Dhingra IBM Global Services, Delhi, Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile : +91-9818675370 *Dave Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17/07/08 06:34 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Strange schedule problem Guys i have Master server (NBU 6.0MP4) and a number of media servers and clients. One media server which is SSO Media server sharing drives is NBU 5.0MP7 and has been fine but all of a sudden as stopped automatically running backups. We can run manual ones fine but its as though the scheduling system isnt working for it or something. Anyone any pointers as to where to look? There isn't a bpsched log directory on the master server with NBU6 so i'm a bit stuck. Everything else is working ok. Cheers This is all on Solaris, and please no need for replies with Why not upgrade to 6 on the media server i know i know and i'm trying to get it passed by service management. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Strange schedule problem
Guys i have Master server (NBU 6.0MP4) and a number of media servers and clients. One media server which is SSO Media server sharing drives is NBU 5.0MP7 and has been fine but all of a sudden as stopped automatically running backups. We can run manual ones fine but its as though the scheduling system isnt working for it or something. Anyone any pointers as to where to look? There isn't a bpsched log directory on the master server with NBU6 so i'm a bit stuck. Everything else is working ok. Cheers This is all on Solaris, and please no need for replies with Why not upgrade to 6 on the media server i know i know and i'm trying to get it passed by service management. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Unable to write to both drives
I know it may sound simple but have you checked you have more than 1 in the mpx field on the policy or schedule? It may be the storage unit can run accept it but the policy /schedule is not allowing it. cheers Honeybrook, Kate wrote: Hi All, We are having a problem with our tape drive since the library was replaced and Symantec haven’t been able to provide much assistance. We are running netbackup 6.5 on a windows master server and separate windows media server. Basically our robot died, so they replaced it but left the same tape drives in the library. We have configured netbackup to pick up the new library, and it still sees the existing drives. We can see all drives using the tpconfig –d. Our problem occurs when we try and run multiple jobs, it wont write to both libraries. The jobs wait with: requesting resource gisvw-granite.cs.adi-limited.com.NBU_CLIENT.MAXJOBS requesting resource gisvw-granite.cs.adi-limited.com.NBU_POLICY.MAXJOBS awaiting resource NDMP-Backup-Storage-Group - Maximum job count has been reached for the storage unit We have been on the phone to Symantec for some time trying to get these working, but there suggestions have not helped at all. Our storage unit is configured to use 2 concurrent drives. However it wont use both drives. We have tested and it can write to each drive individually but not both at the same time. If anyone has any suggestions on what we could do they would be greatly appreciated. *Kate Honeybrook* Systems Administrator DISCLAIMER:--- This e-mail transmission and any documents, files and previous e-mail messages attached to it are private and confidential. They may contain proprietary or copyright material or information that is subject to legal professional privilege. They are for the use of the intended recipient only. Any unauthorised viewing, use, disclosure, copying, alteration, storage or distribution of, or reliance on, this message is strictly prohibited. No part may be reproduced, adapted or transmitted without the written permission of the owner. If you have received this transmission in error, or are not an authorised recipient, please immediately notify the sender by return email, delete this message and all copies from your e-mail system, and destroy any printed copies. Receipt by anyone other than the intended recipient should not be deemed a waiver of any privilege or protection. Thales Australia does not warrant or represent that this e-mail or any documents, files and previous e-mail messages attached are error or virus free. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Win XP client Deduplication
See responses in-line David K. Carpe Principal Systems Engineer Symantec Corporation Office: 646.487.6012 Mobile: 908.963.6818 Home Office: 973.940-1805 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl Rossing Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 4:55 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Win XP client Deduplication I have 75 windows client that I would like to backup over the wan. I can't use DLO since we don't have a Windows Domain. I would like to do client deduplication. I have a few questions in order to verify what I understand. Is there some deduplication built into NB 6.5.2/6.5.3 Win XP client? [DKC] No, there is no deduplication in the basic client If I have to purchase PureDisk 6.5, I have further questions. 1) If a client has two files with the same data, do both files get sent to the Netbackup Server? [DKC] If both files are identical the all the fingerprints will be identical. If the fingerprint exists anywhere within the PureDisk Global Environment, the data associated with that fingerprint will not be backed up. Fingerprints are 128K in size. So the first file will get backed up and the second file will simply have meta data indicating the fingerprints that are already in the storage pool that contain that file's data. 2) If I have two clients with the same files, do both files get sent to the Netbackup Server? [DKC] No. The first one that gets backed up will send the data associated with it's fingerprints to PureDisk. The next server will see that fingerprints already exist for its files and will not be backed up and the metabase will associate that client's files with the appropriate fingerprints. 3) Do I need to update the Netbackup Client to support PureDisk? [DKC] The NetBackup 6.5 Client includes the PureDisk 6.5 Client. Thanks Karl CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication (including all attachments) is confidential and is intended for the use of the named addressee(s) only and may contain information that is private, confidential, privileged, and exempt from disclosure under law. All rights to privilege are expressly claimed and reserved and are not waived. Any use, dissemination, distribution, copying or disclosure of this message and any attachments, in whole or in part, by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete this communication from all data storage devices and destroy all hard copies. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Netbackup 5 on solaris10
Guys i have a bit of an issue im trying to work around. We have some NBU upgrades to do from NBU5.0MP7 to NBU6.0MP4 plus some NBU5.0MP2 to NBU6.0MP4. Please no replies about why 6 Mp4 and not 6.5 or a higher MP version of 6 its what is signed off on the customer account and i cannot change that no matter how much i have tried. We have a test bed to do these upgrades on first before they are signed off to be done on live systems. Again perhaps overkill but its out of my control. More blame culture dodging. Issue is we have a Solaris10 box which i need to install netbackup 5.0MP7 onto. From what i read NBU5 is only compatible with Sol10 at MP4 but how do i install v5.0 base to put the mp4 patch on? Reason i need to do an install and not just a client push is the Sol10 box needs to be a Media server at 5.0MP7 prior to being upgraded. I'm guessing the 5.0 install script doesnt know about sol10 and services etc so cannot install correctly. Anyone any ideas? Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Identify Full tapes on Windows environment
Guys, has anyone done this on windows at all? I have done it on unix by
shell script but need to help a guy do it on windows.
Windows 2003
Netbackup 6.5
We have a 20 tape DLT jukebox and need to AUTOMATICALLY alert via email
if possible when tapes are full.
I'm sure you can pull a report from the gui manually but i need an
automatic process ideally to alert ops in the datacenter so they can
remove tapes which are full.
On unix i do the following (which a few extra bits) :-
#robot parameters
if [ -s /tmp/robot ];then
ROBOT=`cat /tmp/robot`
else
ROBOT=`/opt/openv/volmgr/bin/sgscan | awk -F: '/P1000/ {print $1}'`
echo $ROBOT /tmp/robot
fi
ROBCMD=$VMDIR/tldtest -r $ROBOT
#Get Jukebox Inventory
get_jb_inv()
{
cp $JBINV $JBINV.old
echo s s | $ROBCMD | egrep slot|Barcode $JBINV
}
#Command finds full tapes
$NBUDIRA/bpmedialist -mlist -l | awk ' { if ( int($15/8)%2 ) {print $1}
}' /tmp/tapechk
get_jb_inv
echo
echo Tapes contained in L1000 which are Full |tee -a $MAILFILE
echo | tee -a $MAILFILE
for x in `cat /tmp/tapechk`
do
grep $x $JBINV /dev/null
if [ $? = 0 ];then
$VMDIR/vmquery -m $x | egrep media ID|pool |tee -a
$MAILFILE
fi
done
cheers.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Identify Full tapes on Windows environment
Thanks dude. I'll give it a go and see what happens.
We have blat installed so im sure i can email an output file and run the
bat file as an at job or something.
Cheers
Michael Graff Andersen wrote:
Hi Dave
I have used this bat script in the past
@echo off
Set VMPATH=D:\Veritas\volmgr\bin
set NBADM=D:\Veritas\Netbackup\bin\admincmd
%VMPATH%\vmquery -rn 1 -b C:\temp\vmquery-rn-1-b.out
if EXIST C:\temp\bpmedialist.out (del C:\temp\bpmedialist.out)
for /F tokens=1 skip=3 %%i in (C:\temp\vmquery-rn-1-b.out) do (
%NBADM%\bpmedialist -m %%i C:\temp\bpmedialist.out
)
Think it still needs some work to do the automatic alerting and might
also to run on 6.5 as it was made for 5.1
Regards
Michael
2008/5/30, Dave Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Guys, has anyone done this on windows at all? I have done it on unix by
shell script but need to help a guy do it on windows.
Windows 2003
Netbackup 6.5
We have a 20 tape DLT jukebox and need to AUTOMATICALLY alert via email
if possible when tapes are full.
I'm sure you can pull a report from the gui manually but i need an
automatic process ideally to alert ops in the datacenter so they can
remove tapes which are full.
On unix i do the following (which a few extra bits) :-
#robot parameters
if [ -s /tmp/robot ];then
ROBOT=`cat /tmp/robot`
else
ROBOT=`/opt/openv/volmgr/bin/sgscan | awk -F: '/P1000/ {print $1}'`
echo $ROBOT /tmp/robot
fi
ROBCMD=$VMDIR/tldtest -r $ROBOT
#Get Jukebox Inventory
get_jb_inv()
{
cp $JBINV $JBINV.old
echo s s | $ROBCMD | egrep slot|Barcode $JBINV
}
#Command finds full tapes
$NBUDIRA/bpmedialist -mlist -l | awk ' { if ( int($15/8)%2 ) {print $1}
}' /tmp/tapechk
get_jb_inv
echo
echo Tapes contained in L1000 which are Full |tee -a $MAILFILE
echo | tee -a $MAILFILE
for x in `cat /tmp/tapechk`
do
grep $x $JBINV /dev/null
if [ $? = 0 ];then
$VMDIR/vmquery -m $x | egrep media ID|pool |tee -a
$MAILFILE
fi
done
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Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers
OK. The OS Compatibility Guide will show you that VMware supported as a client only and then references the best practices for backing up VMware document: http://support.veritas.com/docs/278064 The best practices document discusses running a media server within VMware on page 12: http://support.veritas.com/docs/285515 This explains the problems and the fact that VMware does not support Fibrechannel attached tape drives. NBU PM is looking at how we can support NBU Media servers on Virtual Machines for the future but right now, if you do it and have problems, Tech Support will make a best effort to help but it is ultimately unsupported. Best Regards, Dave David K. Carpe Principal Systems Engineer Symantec Corporation Office: 646.487.6012 Mobile: 908.963.6818 Home Office: 973.940-1805 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Martin, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 8:24 AM To: Dave Carpe; Curtis Preston; WEAVER, Simon (external); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers Can you please be more specific on your massive I/O problems? Are we talking about SCSI? Fiber? Tape? Disk? VMWare claims 60,000 I/O per second per ESX Host (assuming your disk can keep up) and explicitly says no tape drives for their configs. I'd assume your problems are related to tape and not to disk? -Jonathan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Dave Carpe Sent: Thu 5/22/2008 1:48 PM To: Curtis Preston; WEAVER, Simon (external); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers It is not supported. There are massive problems with the I/O. David K. Carpe Principal Systems Engineer Symantec Corporation Office: 646.487.6012 Mobile: 908.963.6818 Home Office: 973.940-1805 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Preston Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:13 PM To: WEAVER, Simon (external); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers It works for me just fine, but I don't think it's supported. Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:24 PM To: Curtis Preston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers Hi Curtis Well guess what.. there is a client that is looking at VM'ing Master and Media Servers and want to use a tape drive or robot! I am under the impression its not supported or works. Your comments seem to reflect this may not be the case. Can you clarify? Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Preston Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers When you say they don't support, you must mean that they won't give you support on it. All you have to do is create virtual scsi devices for each tape drive/robot device, then you see the robot and drives in the guest OS. Admittedly, I haven't done it for production, but I haven't found it to be too difficult or unreliable. BUT, I'm trying to figure out why anyone would do that in production. Performance SUCKS! Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 4:10 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers Is Symantec actually going to be supporting a Virtual Machine as a Master or Media Server (San Media too), which can use SSO to share a tape library? A recent exercise with VMware a few months ago brought to light that VMware does NOT support guest access to SAN-based tape drives, and has no plans to do so. Some fiddling around managed to get a guest to see such tape drives, but they did not work reliably at all. - Bluejay Adametz I took off my watch and found I had all the time in the world. - The Association ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity
Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers
It is not supported. There are massive problems with the I/O. David K. Carpe Principal Systems Engineer Symantec Corporation Office: 646.487.6012 Mobile: 908.963.6818 Home Office: 973.940-1805 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Preston Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:13 PM To: WEAVER, Simon (external); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers It works for me just fine, but I don't think it's supported. Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:24 PM To: Curtis Preston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers Hi Curtis Well guess what.. there is a client that is looking at VM'ing Master and Media Servers and want to use a tape drive or robot! I am under the impression its not supported or works. Your comments seem to reflect this may not be the case. Can you clarify? Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Preston Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers When you say they don't support, you must mean that they won't give you support on it. All you have to do is create virtual scsi devices for each tape drive/robot device, then you see the robot and drives in the guest OS. Admittedly, I haven't done it for production, but I haven't found it to be too difficult or unreliable. BUT, I'm trying to figure out why anyone would do that in production. Performance SUCKS! Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 4:10 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers Is Symantec actually going to be supporting a Virtual Machine as a Master or Media Server (San Media too), which can use SSO to share a tape library? A recent exercise with VMware a few months ago brought to light that VMware does NOT support guest access to SAN-based tape drives, and has no plans to do so. Some fiddling around managed to get a guest to see such tape drives, but they did not work reliably at all. - Bluejay Adametz I took off my watch and found I had all the time in the world. - The Association ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 REGISTERED OFFICE:- Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] looking for x64 NBU 5.1 Client
Linux on x64 is referring to the AMD Opteron and Intel EM-64T processors, so x86_64 would be correct. Itanuium needs a completely different version and is 64 bit only. David K. Carpe Principal Systems Engineer Symantec Corporation Office: 646.487.6012 Mobile: 908.963.6818 Home Office: 973.940-1805 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:51 AM To: WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] looking for x64 NBU 5.1 Client What do you mean by x64. Linux x86_64? Itanium? Something else? If it is Linux x86_64 bit you can install the 2.4 kernel client (32 bit) and add compatibility libraries to make it work properly. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:26 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] looking for x64 NBU 5.1 Client All Although I have managed to find 5.1 MP5 for x64, I cannot find a client. I have an x64 on CD, but I am getting alot of problems with the volume manager service refusing to start. Is there a way to get the software, without the need to contact Symantec? Thanks, Si This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 REGISTERED OFFICE:- Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] looking for x64 NBU 5.1 Client
Your Symantec SE or Sales Rep should be able to help you get the client. David K. Carpe Principal Systems Engineer Symantec Corporation Office: 646.487.6012 Mobile: 908.963.6818 Home Office: 973.940-1805 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:54 AM To: Dave Carpe; WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] looking for x64 NBU 5.1 Client As it turns out from Simon's response x86_64 was not correct because he wasn't talking about Linux but rather Windows. Here we're not doing any 64 bit Windows yet so unfortunately I can't answer. The fact that the 32 bit client for Linux can be made to work on 64 bit Linux suggests there is likely a way to do it on Windows so long as it has some sort of backwards compatibility like Linux does by installing libraries for that purpose. At least we know hardware isn't the limitation so if it doesn't work it would be the OS. From: Dave Carpe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:44 AM To: Jeff Lightner; WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] looking for x64 NBU 5.1 Client Linux on x64 is referring to the AMD Opteron and Intel EM-64T processors, so x86_64 would be correct. Itanuium needs a completely different version and is 64 bit only. David K. Carpe Principal Systems Engineer Symantec Corporation Office: 646.487.6012 Mobile: 908.963.6818 Home Office: 973.940-1805 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:51 AM To: WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] looking for x64 NBU 5.1 Client What do you mean by x64. Linux x86_64? Itanium? Something else? If it is Linux x86_64 bit you can install the 2.4 kernel client (32 bit) and add compatibility libraries to make it work properly. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:26 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] looking for x64 NBU 5.1 Client All Although I have managed to find 5.1 MP5 for x64, I cannot find a client. I have an x64 on CD, but I am getting alot of problems with the volume manager service refusing to start. Is there a way to get the software, without the need to contact Symantec? Thanks, Si This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 REGISTERED OFFICE:- Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers
VCB backup is definitely supported in NBU 6.5.1, What is not supported is running a NBU Master or Media Server within a VMware Virtual Machine. Here's a White Paper on Best Practices for backing up VMware with NBU http://eval.symantec.com/mktginfo/enterprise/white_papers/ent-whitepaper _veritas_netBackup_6.5_vmware_nov2007.pdf David K. Carpe Principal Systems Engineer Symantec Corporation Office: 646.487.6012 Mobile: 908.963.6818 Home Office: 973.940-1805 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hudson, Steve Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:18 PM To: WEAVER, Simon (external); Ed Wilts Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers We are also planning a Windows 6.5.1 Master to backup VMware using the VCB function.. Am I hearing correctly that this is Not supported by Symantec ?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:55 AM To: Ed Wilts Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers Hi Ed Yes, thats the feeling I got, but I am being strongly advised by a 3rd party that symantec does support it. However, I am starting to have doubts about this. And I have tested a DSU media server, and that is fine, but certainly cannot see it working in my VM environment here. Simon From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:41 PM To: WEAVER, Simon (external) Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:07 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am being told that 6.5.1 includes VMWare support for Master / Media, but I have not found any proof of this, so I may raise a call with Symantec to get full confirmation. This is not supported. The issue is not Symantec - it's VMware. A VMware guest can not have access to tape drives, so you're sunk right off the bat. It you want to test a Master/media server in a VMware guest, and use *ONLY* disk-based storage units, I suspect that it will work. No tape drive access though. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If I've helped you, please make a donation to my favorite charity at http://firstgiving.com/edwilts This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 REGISTERED OFFICE:- Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England The information contained in this email message and its attachments is intended only for the private and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above, unless the sender expressly agrees otherwise. Transmission of email over the Internet is not a secure communications medium. If you are requesting or have requested the transmittal of personal data, as defined in applicable privacy laws by means of email or in an attachment to email you must select a more secure alternate means of transmittal that supports your obligations to protect such personal data. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient and/or you have received this email in error, you must take no action based on the information in this email and you are hereby notified that any dissemination, misuse, copying, or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by email and delete the original message. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] How to regain disk space from failed backup to DSU
Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy wrote: Dear Gurus, My apologies - it is probably very simple question. Files from failed backup to Disk Storage Unit are taking space (which I need immediately for other backups). How I can reclaim the space back? Thank you, Aleksandr ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Try expiring the image or crudely just deleting the image files from the disk location D ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] install client with ssh
Now my friend that does sound like a very good plan. I could also substitute the client name with a $ variable and pass it to the script. It was just the service install areas i'm not too familiar with yet in sol10. I know you need to use inetadm and various things to make inetd.conf services usable. Cheers Nardello, John wrote: 1)Do a normal /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/install_client_files ftp client to some Solaris 10 box in your environment. 2)On the client you'll now have a /tmp/bp directory on the client with all the needed files and stuff you need to automate future installs. 3)Hack the /tmp/bp/bin/client_config script to do automatic configuration of the CLIENT_NAME, REQUIRED_INTERFACE, other desired bp.conf entries, exclude_list, etc. 4)Copy in any additional files needed to support your hacking (i.e. exclude_list file, etc) to /tmp/bp 4)tar up /tmp/bp and then you can use your favorite method to move the tarball onto any client that needs to be installed, untar it, then just run your hacked client_config script to automatically do the install and client configuration. I will say you have to re-hack the client_config script at each new NetBackup version, or at least check it to make sure they haven't added/removed any files to/from the install, but otherwise it's been working pretty well here. I now have install tarballs I can get loaded onto any of our UNIX clients and Joe-SA can run a single command to do all the needed configuration. And my favorite part, I didn't have to start from scratch. =) - John Nardello -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] install client with ssh Yeah good call, and i have done that before. Problem is i want to install solaris 10 clients and i'd have to script all the service stuff and im not totally up on solaris10 as yet ( i know i know i should be ). I have had some good responses and a couple of scripts passed to me so thanks guys and i'm sure ill get it going D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since it's solaris, it's really easy to just copy it from another working client, too. Grab the entire /usr/openv directory in a tarball and just untar it on the new machine. Change the client name other info in bp.conf. Grab the bp entries from /etc/services /etc/inetd.conf and add them to the other client. HUP the inetd daemon. It should work. Verify the bpcd port is listening correctly with netstat -a | grep bpcd. You should see inetd listening to the bpcd port. Other than that, just finding the install script and replacing rsh with ssh works fine, too. Of course, the trust relationship needs to be setup first (and the first contact made host key accepted and all that other normal prep work.) -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Amado Gramajo; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; Jeff Lightner Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] install client with ssh Thanks dude, ill give the rsh rename a go. I know i tried this on older versions and it didnt seem to work but Im happy editing scripts so will set keys up and try. To answer some other replies :- Im not on v 6.5 and being in a large company with stupid rules and customer change controls and accreditations etc i cant upgrade to 6.5 soon. Im remotely managing hundreds of clients in a datacenter and putting a CD into a new client just is not feasible. There is nothing under the /usr/openv/netbackup/client/Solaris/ tree which has sftp or ssh in it from the server install and so i assume people who have these scripts have created them. I dont see any sftp or ssh install scripts under Linux or BSD client directories either. If someone does have them would they mind mailing me a copy and i could then try and hack the Solaris one. Weird thing is i cant see why it doesnt work globally replacing ftp with sftp as when i run a diff on my v5 scripts i cant see that much else has changed. Cheers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are willing to set up shared ssh keys between hosts you can modify the /usr/openv/netbackup/client/Solaris/Solaris9/install_client script. There is an install_client script for each OS version. A crude hack is to replace what Netbackup discovers for RSH and RCP with SSH and SCP. If you don't want to modify the scripts, you could rename RSH and RCP and replace them with a link to SSH and SCP. We don't use R commands anymore so
Re: [Veritas-bu] install client with ssh
Thanks dude, ill give the rsh rename a go. I know i tried this on older versions and it didnt seem to work but Im happy editing scripts so will set keys up and try. To answer some other replies :- Im not on v 6.5 and being in a large company with stupid rules and customer change controls and accreditations etc i cant upgrade to 6.5 soon. Im remotely managing hundreds of clients in a datacenter and putting a CD into a new client just is not feasible. There is nothing under the /usr/openv/netbackup/client/Solaris/ tree which has sftp or ssh in it from the server install and so i assume people who have these scripts have created them. I dont see any sftp or ssh install scripts under Linux or BSD client directories either. If someone does have them would they mind mailing me a copy and i could then try and hack the Solaris one. Weird thing is i cant see why it doesnt work globally replacing ftp with sftp as when i run a diff on my v5 scripts i cant see that much else has changed. Cheers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are willing to set up shared ssh keys between hosts you can modify the /usr/openv/netbackup/client/Solaris/Solaris9/install_client script. There is an install_client script for each OS version. A crude hack is to replace what Netbackup discovers for RSH and RCP with SSH and SCP. If you don't want to modify the scripts, you could rename RSH and RCP and replace them with a link to SSH and SCP. We don't use R commands anymore so that works for us. install_client: ...snip # Find the rsh and rcp commands if [ -x /usr/net/rsh ] ; then RSH=/usr/net/rsh elif [ -x /usr/bin/remsh ] ; then RSH=/usr/bin/remsh elif [ -x /usr/bin/resh ] ; then RSH=/usr/bin/resh elif [ -x /usr/bin/rsh ] ; then RSH=/usr/bin/rsh elif [ -x /usr/bsd/rsh ] ; then RSH=/usr/bsd/rsh elif [ -x /usr/ucb/rsh ] ; then RSH=/usr/ucb/rsh else /bin/echo Cannot find rsh command exit 1 fi if [ -x /usr/ucb/rcp ] ; then RCP=/usr/ucb/rcp elif [ -x /usr/bsd/rcp ] ; then RCP=/usr/bsd/rcp elif [ -x /usr/bin/rcp ] ; then RCP=/usr/bin/rcp else /bin/echo Cannot find rcp command exit 1 fi # Fix rsh and rcp commands --rhale. RSH=/usr/local/bin/ssh RCP=/usr/local/bin/scp ...snip... As long as the shared host keys are setup, this will work for installs from the gui and command line. I have only used this for unix hosts so you are on your own for windows. Richard H. - Original Message - *From:* Jeff Lightner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Amado Gramajo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:04 AM *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] install client with ssh I don’t see those links under Solaris8 and Solaris9 on my server. I think someone there must have manually created them? You might look in the original install_client they to which they are linked. If it doesn’t mention ssh or sftp in it then its hard to see how the links would be valid. It does occur on occasion that things are context sensitive (I’ve seen this in many binaries) where they decide what to do based on the name you used when you started them. So far as I know NBU doesn’t do that. The point in my post however was not to see what scripts you had but to tell you where you could find examples of ssh install scripts under NBU. Using that information along with what is in your Solaris install_client you ought to be able to cobble something together that does what you need. On the flip side you can always install a client by inserting the CD in the client and doing the install from that rather than pushing from the master. *From:* Amado Gramajo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:53 AM *To:* Jeff Lightner; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* RE: [Veritas-bu] install client with ssh Here’s whats under the Solaris client: ./ftp_to_client ./install_client ./sftp_to_client ./ssh_to_client They are all links to install_client. *From:* Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:32 AM *To:* Amado Gramajo; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* RE: [Veritas-bu] install client with ssh On our 6.0 MP4 master we have the following under /usr/openv/netbackup/client:
Re: [Veritas-bu] install client with ssh
Yeah good call, and i have done that before. Problem is i want to install solaris 10 clients and i'd have to script all the service stuff and im not totally up on solaris10 as yet ( i know i know i should be ). I have had some good responses and a couple of scripts passed to me so thanks guys and i'm sure ill get it going D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since it's solaris, it's really easy to just copy it from another working client, too. Grab the entire /usr/openv directory in a tarball and just untar it on the new machine. Change the client name other info in bp.conf. Grab the bp entries from /etc/services /etc/inetd.conf and add them to the other client. HUP the inetd daemon. It should work. Verify the bpcd port is listening correctly with netstat -a | grep bpcd. You should see inetd listening to the bpcd port. Other than that, just finding the install script and replacing rsh with ssh works fine, too. Of course, the trust relationship needs to be setup first (and the first contact made host key accepted and all that other normal prep work.) -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Amado Gramajo; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; Jeff Lightner Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] install client with ssh Thanks dude, ill give the rsh rename a go. I know i tried this on older versions and it didnt seem to work but Im happy editing scripts so will set keys up and try. To answer some other replies :- Im not on v 6.5 and being in a large company with stupid rules and customer change controls and accreditations etc i cant upgrade to 6.5 soon. Im remotely managing hundreds of clients in a datacenter and putting a CD into a new client just is not feasible. There is nothing under the /usr/openv/netbackup/client/Solaris/ tree which has sftp or ssh in it from the server install and so i assume people who have these scripts have created them. I dont see any sftp or ssh install scripts under Linux or BSD client directories either. If someone does have them would they mind mailing me a copy and i could then try and hack the Solaris one. Weird thing is i cant see why it doesnt work globally replacing ftp with sftp as when i run a diff on my v5 scripts i cant see that much else has changed. Cheers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are willing to set up shared ssh keys between hosts you can modify the /usr/openv/netbackup/client/Solaris/Solaris9/install_client script. There is an install_client script for each OS version. A crude hack is to replace what Netbackup discovers for RSH and RCP with SSH and SCP. If you don't want to modify the scripts, you could rename RSH and RCP and replace them with a link to SSH and SCP. We don't use R commands anymore so that works for us. install_client: ...snip # Find the rsh and rcp commands if [ -x /usr/net/rsh ] ; then RSH=/usr/net/rsh elif [ -x /usr/bin/remsh ] ; then RSH=/usr/bin/remsh elif [ -x /usr/bin/resh ] ; then RSH=/usr/bin/resh elif [ -x /usr/bin/rsh ] ; then RSH=/usr/bin/rsh elif [ -x /usr/bsd/rsh ] ; then RSH=/usr/bsd/rsh elif [ -x /usr/ucb/rsh ] ; then RSH=/usr/ucb/rsh else /bin/echo Cannot find rsh command exit 1 fi if [ -x /usr/ucb/rcp ] ; then RCP=/usr/ucb/rcp elif [ -x /usr/bsd/rcp ] ; then RCP=/usr/bsd/rcp elif [ -x /usr/bin/rcp ] ; then RCP=/usr/bin/rcp else /bin/echo Cannot find rcp command exit 1 fi # Fix rsh and rcp commands --rhale. RSH=/usr/local/bin/ssh RCP=/usr/local/bin/scp ...snip... As long as the shared host keys are setup, this will work for installs from the gui and command line. I have only used this for unix hosts so you are on your own for windows. Richard H. - Original Message - *From:* Jeff Lightner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Amado Gramajo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:04 AM *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] install client with ssh I don't see those links under Solaris8 and Solaris9 on my server. I think someone there must have manually created them? You might look in the original install_client they to which they are linked. If it doesn't mention ssh or sftp in it then its hard to see how the links would be valid. It does occur on occasion that things are context sensitive (I've seen this in many binaries) where they decide what to do based on the name you used when you started them. So far as I know NBU doesn't do that. The point in my post however was not to see
[Veritas-bu] install client with ssh
Guys has anyone written or done anything they use to install clients on Unix over ssh? I found a script a while ago someone had done replacing ftp_to_clients with sftp_to_clients for v 5.0 which has always worked a charm. Now in v6.0Mp4 ftp_to_clients is a sym link to install_clients and i need to use SSH(sftp) to do the install instead of ftp. I tried a global replace of :- :.,$s/ftp/sftp/g but then running the script doesnt seem to work correctly. Primarily dealing with Solaris here but any tips would be good. Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] How do you display Stream number against file path
Running NBU 6.0mp4 Solaris 10 Say i have a policy with multiple data streams enabled and ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES directive set. Therefore it creates a parent job then a stream job for each file system mount point on the client. Using the gui ( i dont a great deal ) looking through the activity monitor i can pick one of the jobs and look in it to see the file path it backed up. I cant however see the stream number anywhere on the job details. Im sure it can be pulled out of command line but i'm not sure how at the moment. Basically i want to know which file path related to which stream. Secondly when assuming the file systems dont change on the client are the same streams created each backup or is it random? e.g one night stream 1 relates to /, stream 2 relates to /var does night 2 stream1 relate to / and stream 2 relate to /var ?? Cheers P.S Reason i wish to know is i have a bpstart script running on the client to run a job only once for that client. So in the bpstart im doing :- if [ $STREAM_NUMBER = 1];then do some stuff like copy a file to /opt somewhere. ] Ideally i want the stream im running this job on to relate to the /opt stream which is where the copy files will reside. Cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Exclusions
Im not a Windows guy by trade but yes it does matter. It will contain all users application data and things like Office personal files etc. oh and not to mention any documents which are stored in My Documents. Start to browse the directory and you will hopefully see the things in there. Cheers Shyam Hazari wrote: Majority of my Windows hosts get Status code 1 and I am looking at the error log, most of them fail to backup files in C:\Documents and Settings\. The question is, does this folder has any useful data that needs recovery or can it be safely excluded ? TIA -Shyam ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] quick exclude Question
Guys can you just advise me here on something simple. I have a policy. Policy file list has /SAN/SAS/ in it. The policy also has cross mount points option ticked plus multiple data streams. The machine the policy is on has these mount points /SAN/SAS/dir1 /SAN/SAS/dir1/something /SAN/SAS/dir1/somethingdiff This policy is an application policy and so i just want to capture anything under /SAN/SAS hence the file list inclusion above. The question is i have a UNIX policy for the same client and want to obviously exclude everything under /SAN/SAS as i have an ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES directive set for that policy. Is the exclude list for the unix policy like this :- /SAN/SAS/* Or this :- /SAN/SAS/ Im not sure if i need the * or not. cheers ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] snapvault storage unit
Jerry, If you want to use the Network Appliance SnapVault Option with NetBackup you need to have a license for it from NetBackup and Network Appliance: NAS SnapVault Option The Network Attached Storage (NAS) SnapVault Option allows customers with NAS storage to copy NAS-based snapshots from primary NAS storage to secondary disk storage. This option is currently supported only by Network Appliance. David K. Carpe Principal Systems Engineer Symantec Corporation Office: 646.487.6012 Mobile: 908.963.6818 Home Office: 973.940-1805 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Rioux Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:30 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] snapvault storage unit Windows master server running 6.5. I am trying to create a new snapvault storage unit. I select the Disk and the SnapVault type and then when I goto select the Media server and SnapVault server, those fields are blank. Where does netbackup get this info? Could this be a licensing issue? Thanks, Jerry Rioux Enterprise Systems Engineer Help Desk 1-888-746-6478 www.incat.com image001.gif___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Another bpstart, oracle and streams question
Im no rack expert but the DBA's have said they need that file backing up. As its a sym link to a raw slice im doing it via dd and the block size they recommend. Im not sure if the rman job can actually do it as it may not be part of the DB that Rman hooks into. Its only a 256mb file so i dont think it would harm to back it up if you are unsure. Are the STREAMS issue, im actually thinking what i want may be a bit easier than running a hot oracle backup. I just need this job to run once so coulndt if do an if statement something like below :- if [ $STREAM = 1 ] then do the checks and dd etc fi This would then hold the first stream until the dd job had finished and then back it up. Hmm one issue i guess is i need to make sure the stream im checking for is the same stream as the file system the voting disk will be backed up to. Does anyone have confirmation of the STREAM variables passed to bpstart_notify ?? cheers Jeff Lightner wrote: Curious about this thread – so far as I know we’re not doing anything special for backing up voting disk and OCR for Oracle RAC (unless the DBAs somehow set this up via RMAN to the policies we created in NBU). Is this something we should be doing? *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ed Wilts *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:50 AM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Cc:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] Another bpstart, oracle and streams question The short answer is: don't even try if you have multiple disks. You *may* be able to get away with it now using the parent/child job functionality that got added in 6.0 but we haven't tested this, having given up on a long time ago after a multi-year battle. Sure, you can get it work most of the time, and many people do. However, there are many, many edge cases where this will break down, and if you do go down this route, you'll find some them eventually. You'll find cases where the bpstart didn't run or the bpend didn't run, or they'll run twice. We definitely had a really, really bright guy working on the bpstart/bpend scripts and he could not solve the problem so that it was 100% reliable. We simply wanted to put Oracle into hotbackup mode, do the backups, and take it out of hotbackup mode. Like you said, you'll be writing some logic around it. However, you'll be writing and writing and writing, tweaking it regularly as you run into all of the edge conditions and you'll cuss and swear as you stumble over them. Bottom line: it can't be done reliably. Use a different method of coordinating this. .../Ed On Jan 31, 2008 8:57 AM, Dave Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys im running Netbackup 6.0mp4 and a number of oracle SSO media servers backing themselves up. Solaris9/10 This has been mentioned before many times im sure and i found a thread on it called 'Yet another bpstart/bpend questions' but i dont have a copy of it to reply to. Basically as im running a UNIX backup (forget oracle for the moment) and we have multistreams set and all_local_drives directive, a bpstart_notify script we have which does this (there are extra checks etc also):- dd if=/path/to/votedsk1 of=$STAGING/votingdisk bs=4k /dev/null 21 ..is obviously running on each stream which is kicked off. I just need it to run once. There was talk about the bpstart script taking a STREAMS parameter but it doesnt say so within the /opt/openv/netbackup/bin/goodies version so can anyone confirm there are STREAMS variables passed to it? I was thinking ( perhaps like many people ) to create some lock file and then remove it. This leads to all sorts of issues regarding streams restarting, certain ones finishing before others etc and so i'd need to create some good logic around it. What are people doing in the wild? I just need the above command to run once per backup. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] [Fwd: Re: Another bpstart, oracle and streams question]
---BeginMessage--- Cheers. Yeah I guess i just wrote rack by habit :) I could create a separate policy in netbackup and do RAW file backup of the voting disk. Its another thing to admin schedule etc but it may work. For the moment i have just done the following in my bpstart_notify.policy change $OUTF #Edited by DaveM to create file per stream OUTF=/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/BPSTART_CALLED.$STREAM_NUMBER Then added the section at the end before the final exit. #Backup oracle voting disk VOTEDISK=/opt/app/oracle/oradev/crs/votedsk1 STAGE=/usr/openv/netbackup/ORA_TEMP_AREA #Only do this once per backup #trying by STREAM_NUMBER=1 if [ $STREAM_NUMBER = 1 ];then echo Stream match at STREAM_NUMBER [$STREAM_NUMBER]. Running voting disk backup. $OUTF if [ ! -d $STAGE ];then mkdir $STAGE fi #Check voting disk is a sym link if [ -h $VOTEDISK ];then dd if=$VOTEDISK of=$STAGE/votingdisk bs=4k /dev/null 21 #Exit 1 if above failed if [ $? -ne 0 ];then echo dd process had a problem. Exiting $OUTF exit 1 fi else #Exit with error echo Votingdisk [$VOTEDISK] wasnt a sym link. Exiting $OUTF exit 1 fi fi exit 0 Jeff Lightner wrote: RMAN can backup raw devices - we'll be doing that on our latest RAC installation on Linux (the earlier one was using OCFS filesystem but still had raw voting disk/OCR which is what prompted my question). For that matter so can NBU itself can backup raw devices without RMAN. We have some older systems that use raw devices for Oracle DB (no RAC) and our backups for those are done by shutting down the database and letting NBU do a raw device backup. We know it works because we've used that backup to restore to another system when doing a data refresh. I'm just wondering about the voting disk and OCR for RAC since they are part of CRS (a/k/a Oracle Clusterware). CRS is a higher level product than the database (that is to say you install everything else AFTER you have CRS working) so I was wondering if there was a backup/restore methodology for CRS itself that included the voting disk and OCR. P.S. Probably was your spell checker fixing it for you but just in case it wasn't - It is RAC not rack. RAC = Real Application Cluster. -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 5:24 AM To: Jeff Lightner Cc: Ed Wilts; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Another bpstart, oracle and streams question Im no rack expert but the DBA's have said they need that file backing up. As its a sym link to a raw slice im doing it via dd and the block size they recommend. Im not sure if the rman job can actually do it as it may not be part of the DB that Rman hooks into. Its only a 256mb file so i dont think it would harm to back it up if you are unsure. Are the STREAMS issue, im actually thinking what i want may be a bit easier than running a hot oracle backup. I just need this job to run once so coulndt if do an if statement something like below :- if [ $STREAM = 1 ] then do the checks and dd etc fi This would then hold the first stream until the dd job had finished and then back it up. Hmm one issue i guess is i need to make sure the stream im checking for is the same stream as the file system the voting disk will be backed up to. Does anyone have confirmation of the STREAM variables passed to bpstart_notify ?? cheers Jeff Lightner wrote: Curious about this thread - so far as I know we're not doing anything special for backing up voting disk and OCR for Oracle RAC (unless the DBAs somehow set this up via RMAN to the policies we created in NBU). Is this something we should be doing? *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ed Wilts *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:50 AM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Cc:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] Another bpstart, oracle and streams question The short answer is: don't even try if you have multiple disks. You *may* be able to get away with it now using the parent/child job functionality that got added in 6.0 but we haven't tested this, having given up on a long time ago after a multi-year battle. Sure, you can get it work most of the time, and many people do. However, there are many, many edge cases where this will break down, and if you do go down this route, you'll find some them eventually. You'll find cases where the bpstart didn't run or the bpend didn't run, or they'll run twice. We definitely had a really, really bright guy working on the bpstart/bpend scripts and he could not solve the problem so
