Re: [Veritas-bu] FA for NetBackup 7

[Karl Rossing]

Ed Wilts wrote:
> It's also not free.  You will pay for each terabyte of pre-duped data.
ZFS de-dup is for us openSolaris folk. Now available as of build 129. 
Although it's not a tape solution and I don't think opensolaris is 
officially supported. I'm looking forward to testing this out with 
Netbackup.

Karl








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Re: [Veritas-bu] Using bpsetconfig to set exclusions

[Karl Rossing]

I finally got arround to place a service call with SUN about this. They 
in turn, placed a service call(320-231-464) with Symantec on it.

It seems that bpsetconfig sends a BPCD_SET_EXCLUDE_LIST_RQST that the 
windows client does not interpret. Setting the exclude using jnbSA does 
work BUT it's kinda of a pain to manage.

bpsetconfig not setting excludes from a unix master to a windows client 
seems to not be a bug. There maybe support in the future. Who knows when 
that will be.

We don't have an account rep with Symantec so putting in an RFE is a bit 
of a pain.

With luck a really large customer will want this feature.

Anyway, that's it for now.

Karl

Karl Rossing wrote:
> I would like to set windows client exclusions using bpsetconfig on our 
> solaris master server via the command line.
>
> More information can be found here:
> http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/setting-and-getting-excludeinclude-lists-without-bpgp
>
> I was hoping that the feature would exist in 6.5.4
>
> It does not appear to be in 6.5.4
>
> -bash-3.00$ /opt/csw/bin/sudo ./bpsetconfig -e 
> /opt/openv/netbackup/windows.exclude -h host.domain.com
> unimplemented feature
>
> Can anyone else confirm this?
>
> Karl
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Using bpsetconfig to set exclusions

[Karl Rossing]

Unfortunately i still get "unimplemented feature". I guess I will open a 
case and see if it's availble on 6.5.5

So Unix to Windows does not seem to be supported.

Karl


Jim H wrote:
> Give it a try this way. I have done it this way for windows clients from a 
> windows master, but not from a unix master.
>
> bpsetconfig -h hostname filename
>
> Entries in your file need to be like this.
>
> exclude = C:\Program Files\Veritas\NetBackup\bin\*.lock
> exclude = C:\Program Files\Veritas\NetBackup\bin\bprd.d\*.lock
> exclude = C:\Program Files\Veritas\NetBackup\bin\bpsched.d\*.lock
> exclude = C:\Program Files\Veritas\NetBackupDB\data\*
> exclude = C:\Program Files\Veritas\Volmgr\misc\*
> exclude = E:\
> exclude = F:\
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> |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Live Update Questions

[Karl Rossing]

Thanks Rob!

I managed to get it going by simply following Renee's instructions.
http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/pipermail/veritas-bu/2009-February/103049.html

It works well on windows. I will not user it on our solaris clients. 
It's just too combersome to have to deploy LU to all our solaris 
servers. It's easier to use update_clients.

Karl



rob worman wrote:
> Hi Karl-
>
> For 6.5 GA installs of LiveUpdate:
>
> Unix:  it's on the 6.5 Options CD, you need to install it separately.
> Windows:  as you note, it's part of the default install.
>
>
> And yes, the 6.5.4 patch release includes some liveupdate fixes, 
> that's what's in the NB_LUA_6.5.4_326410.tar tarball.
>
> HTH
> rob
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Karl Rossing  <mailto:ka...@barobinson.com>> wrote:
>
> My hope is to install 100 windows clients with 6.5GA and point them to
> the Live Update(LU) server so that they can be updated
> automatically to
> 6.5.4.
>
> We have a Solaris 6.5 master server. I need to install the LU software
> on it. I can't seem to find the proper media. Does anyone know where I
> can download a copy of the LU Add-on? Our maintenance is through
> SUN if
> that makes a difference.
>
> It seems that LU is baked into the Windows Clients. I should not
> need to
> install any additional software on our windows clients for it to work.
> It also seems that LU is not baked into the Solaris clients. It seems
> that NB_LUA_6.5.4_326410.tar  needs to be installed on the LU
> server. Am
> I correct about this?
>
> Thanks
> Karl
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Veritas-bu] Using bpsetconfig to set exclusions

[Karl Rossing]

I would like to set windows client exclusions using bpsetconfig on our 
solaris master server via the command line.

More information can be found here:
http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/setting-and-getting-excludeinclude-lists-without-bpgp

I was hoping that the feature would exist in 6.5.4

It does not appear to be in 6.5.4

-bash-3.00$ /opt/csw/bin/sudo ./bpsetconfig -e 
/opt/openv/netbackup/windows.exclude -h host.domain.com
unimplemented feature

Can anyone else confirm this?

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[Veritas-bu] Live Update Questions

[Karl Rossing]

My hope is to install 100 windows clients with 6.5GA and point them to 
the Live Update(LU) server so that they can be updated automatically to 
6.5.4.

We have a Solaris 6.5 master server. I need to install the LU software 
on it. I can't seem to find the proper media. Does anyone know where I 
can download a copy of the LU Add-on? Our maintenance is through SUN if 
that makes a difference.

It seems that LU is baked into the Windows Clients. I should not need to 
install any additional software on our windows clients for it to work. 
It also seems that LU is not baked into the Solaris clients. It seems 
that NB_LUA_6.5.4_326410.tar  needs to be installed on the LU server. Am 
I correct about this?

Thanks
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Re: [Veritas-bu] jnbSA/bplist issue

[Karl Rossing]

Ed Wilts wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Karl Rossing  <mailto:ka...@barobinson.com>> wrote:
>
> Netbackup 6.5.1 Master running on Solaris 10.
> Netbackup 6.5.1 also running on Solaris 10.
>
> The client policy is to only do a daily differential will a 3 month
> retention.
>
> My assumption is that once the data expires, Netbackup will redo the
> diff and catch up.
>
> I'm only seeing two weeks of data in jnbSA/bplist and as such I'm
> missing data to restore.
>
>
> When are your fulls and with what retentions?
*cough* i don't have any.
>
> > My assumption is that once the data expires, Netbackup will redo the 
> diff and catch up.
>
> Not really.  The differential is done based on the time of the last 
> full or incremental.  If you don't have all of your fulls going back 3 
> months, the diffinc doesn't do you any good since you don't have a 
> base to apply against.  NetBackup doesn't "catch up" - it knows when 
> the last backup was and doesn't care if it's expired because it never 
> checks.
It would have been nice if the backup job would have thrown an error. 
Something like "No Full Backup Found". Ok thanks for clearing that up.  
I'll adjust things for tonight.

Karl


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[Veritas-bu] jnbSA/bplist issue

[Karl Rossing]

Hello,

Netbackup 6.5.1 Master running on Solaris 10.
Netbackup 6.5.1 also running on Solaris 10.

The client policy is to only do a daily differential will a 3 month 
retention.

My assumption is that once the data expires, Netbackup will redo the 
diff and catch up.

I'm only seeing two weeks of data in jnbSA/bplist and as such I'm 
missing data to restore.

Could this be a jnbSA/bplist bug or could it be a corrupt catalog?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5.3 - What is your experience?

[Karl Rossing]

Anyone know if setting exclusions for all client types using bpgetconfig 
and bpsetconfig made it into 6.5.3?

more info here:
https://forums.symantec.com/syment/blog/article?message.uid=324861


Steve Hedberg wrote:
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> program. We in NetBackup development are excited with the comments and 
> results we’ve seen with this new version in production and in test 
> systems. What has been your experience?
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[Veritas-bu] sgscan cannot see robot after library power cycle

[Karl Rossing]

T1000 S10U4 master

There was a power outage on the library and now sgscan cannot see the robot.
/dev/sg/c0t5l0: Processor: "SUN StorEdge 3120  D"
/dev/sg/c0t8l0: Disk (/dev/rdsk/c1t8d0): "SEAGATE ST33LSUN300G"
/dev/sg/c0t9l0: Disk (/dev/rdsk/c1t9d0): "SEAGATE ST33LSUN300G"
/dev/sg/c1t1l0: Tape (/dev/rmt/0): "HP  Ultrium 3-SCSI"
/dev/sg/c2t0l0: Disk (/dev/rdsk/c0t0d0): "ATA HITACHI HDS7280S"

I'm thinking of running
/usr/sbin/modinfo | grep sg
126 7bb72da8   1718  97   1  sysmsg (System message redirection (fan)
188  13d4320   35d0 285   1  sg (SCSA Generic Revision: 3.6)
232 7b7cc000   2168  49   1  msgsys (System V message facility)
232 7b7cc000   2168  49   1  msgsys (32-bit System V message facilit)
/usr/sbin/modunload -i 188
/usr/sbin/modload sg


The machine in question also servers up NFS home directories. I don't 
want those to drop.

Do you think that will bring the robot back? Are there side effects to 
doing this?

Karl













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Re: [Veritas-bu] ZFS Filesystem Backups - Tips and tricks

[Karl Rossing]

Ed Wilts wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Mark Glazerman 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
> Some the Quality Engineering folks and product managers are reading 
> the list too...  We're not complaining about the engineering on this - 
> although we would have liked for the bug not to have happened in the 
> first place, all we're asking for is that if a data loss bug is 
> acknowledged, customers get notified as quickly as possible.
>
Symantec, help us understand.

Right now, Symantec gives me the impression that "We QA our products and 
QA is expensive" but nothing more.

How are these patches QA'ed exactly? How big is the staff, how big is 
the LAB, is there automated testing? It would be nice to know why their 
QA process missed it and how they are going  to rectify the process 
going forward.

I'd expect their QA to be rather large and something that they can be 
very proud of (via blog posts, youtube videos, webcasts and even Vision 
Sessions)

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Win XP client Deduplication

[Karl Rossing]

I was reading the Getting Started Guide
http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_PureDisk_Remote_Office_Edition/303546.pdf

We currently have a SUN T1000 running Solaris 10U4 with 16GB of Ram.  We 
don't have any media servers.

In order to use PD, We will need to add a server with two dual core 
processors and 4GB of ECC RAM if I'm putting all the PD services on a 
single node and a bunch of disk. The PD server would run PDOS/SUSE Linux.

Am I correct?

Thanks
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[Veritas-bu] Win XP client Deduplication

[Karl Rossing]

I have 75 windows client that I would like to backup over the wan. I 
can't use DLO since we don't have a Windows Domain. I would like to do 
client deduplication.

I have a few questions in order to verify what I understand.

Is there some deduplication built into NB 6.5.2/6.5.3 Win XP client?

If I have to purchase PureDisk 6.5, I have further questions.
1) If a client has two files with the same data, do both files get sent 
to the Netbackup Server?
2) If I have two clients with the same files, do both files get sent to 
the Netbackup Server?
3) Do I need to update the Netbackup Client to support PureDisk?

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[Veritas-bu] bpsetconfig in 6.5.2

[Karl Rossing]

I read that bpsetconfig will apparently be able to manage 
include/exclude lists for all operating systems.
https://forums.symantec.com/syment/blog/article?message.uid=324861

I'm wondering if the -e and -i flags are in 6.5.2?

Thanks
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Domino ( lotus notes ) on Windows

[Karl . Rossing]

Bobby,

We get 12MB/sec(350GB) from our Windows Notes netbackup client to our DSSU 
on our Solaris Master/Media Server.

This is what we have done to increase performance to 12MB/Sec

1.) Set Lotus Domino scheduled tasks to happen outside of the backup 
window
2.) Made sure we have the latest nic and storage drivers.
3.) Both of these take time. Format is probably the best way to clean 
things up.
a) Run a defrag when Domino offline
b) Backed up lotus domino (offline) using the plain netbackup 
agent(Not the Domino agent), reformat the data drive and restored from 
tape. We get 30MB/Sec with an offline backup.

We are planing on setting up an Lotus archive server. Which should 
decrease the backup volume on our notes mail server. The backup policy of 
the archive server has yet to be determined but it will most likely be a 
monthly archive and then backup. Our notes mail server would continue to 
backup with daily fulls.

I hope this points you in the right direction.

Karl

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/01/2007 09:36:41 AM:

> 
> Any one have any creative ideas of how I can get faster backups from
> a windows server. 
> 
> We are running Lotus Notes on a Windows Intel box. The server is a 
Compaq G5.
> We are backing up 400 - 500 GB every night of mail files. The daily 
> & weekly backups are doing 
> disk backup - data de-duplication. The backup through put is 6 
> mb/sec to 6.5/mb/sec. 
> The monthly backups are going to LTO2 tape. Getting may be 7 mb/sec to 
tape. 
> 
> Either way backups are taking to long. ( 16 -18 hours ). 
> Any one have any creative ways I can get backups in a shorter 
> window? Looking for some 
> ideas to get the window down by 50% - 75%. 
> 
> thanks 
> 
> 
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[Veritas-bu] Jumbo Frames

[Karl . Rossing]

I'm wondering if you can clear something up for me, how do people tend to 
configure their 1GbE ports for jumbo frames.

We currently don't have a separate backup network. I don't really want to 
create a separate backup network right now just to for jumbo frame support 
although vlans might help with that.

What happens when non jumbo'ed (non netbackup) frames get sent to the 
jumbo framed ports? From what i have been reading, your network speed will 
be slower but how much?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Some info on my experiences with 10GbE

[Karl . Rossing]

Devon,

Good to hear that T2000's are screamers.

What are the library/tape drive specs. Are the drives FC attached? or are 
they attached via scsi to the media server?

Thanks,
Karl

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:veritas-bu-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peters, Devon C
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:12 PM
> To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Some info on my experiences with 10GbE
> 
> Since I've seen a little bit of talk about 10GbE on here in the past
> I figured I'd share some of my experiences... 
> I've recently been testing some of Sun's dual-port 10GbE NICs on 
> some small T2000's (1Ghz, 4-core).  I'm only using a single port on 
> each card, and the servers are currently directly connected to each 
> other (waiting for my network team to get switches and fibre in place).
> So far, I've been able to drive throughput between these two systems
> to about 7500Mbit/sec using iperf.  When the throughput gets this 
> high, all the cores/threads on the receiving T2000 become saturated 
> and TCP retransmits start climbing, but both systems remain quite 
> responsive.  Since these are only 4-core T2000's, I would guess that
> the 6 or 8-core T2000's (especially with 1.2Ghz or 1.4Ghz 
> processors) should be capable of more throughput, possibly near line 
speed.
> The down side achieving this high of throughput is that it requires 
> lots of data streams.  When transmitting with a single data stream, 
> the most throughput I've gotten is about 1500Mbit/sec.  I only got 
> up to 7500Mbit/s when using 64 data streams?  Also, the biggest 
> gains seem to be in the jump from 1 to 8 data streams;  with 8 
> streams I was able to get throughput up to 6500Mbit/sec.
> Our goal for 10GbE, is to be able to restore data from tape at a 
> speed of at least 2400Mbit/sec (300MB/sec).  We have large daily 
> backups (3-4TB) that we would like to be able to restore (not 
> backup) in a reasonable amount of time.  These restores are used to 
> refresh our test and development environments with current data. 
> The actual backups are done with array based snapshots (HDS 
> ShadowCopy), which then get mounted and backed up by a dedicated 
> media server (6-core T2000).  We're currently getting about 
> 650MB/sec of throughput with the backups (9 streams on 3 LTO3 tape 
> drives - MPX=3 and it's very compressible data).
> Going off my iperf results, the restoring this data using 9 streams 
> should get us well over 2400Mbit/sec.  But - we haven't installed 
> the cards on our media servers yet, so I have yet to see what the 
> actual performanee of netbackup and LTO3 over 10GbE is.  I'm hopeful
> it'll be close to the iperf results, but if it doesn't meet the goal
> then we'll be looking at other options.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] LotusNotes backup strategy

[Karl . Rossing]

We have several Domino servers and have been able to utilise point in time 
restores.

Our win2k3 mail server backs up 350GB at 10-12MB/sec using the notes 
agent. Doing an off-line backup we are able to do 25-30MB/Sec

We are hoping to move our mail server in the new year back to Solaris. We 
hopefully should see 25-30MB/sec backup times.

We still do nightly FULLS and have touched lightly on daily notes 
transaction only backups. They seem to work fine.

Our notes admin will be implementing a notes archive server before year 
end. The hope is that our daily mail backup volume will decrease and that 
we can move data to the archive server on a quarterly basis. The archive 
server will be backed up quarterly while the email server will be backed 
up daily. I don't think we will be using veritas Vault.

Karl

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/05/2007 01:48:09 PM:

> We use the notes agent, and write about 380GB of data to tape, coming
> from two servers.  The mailboxes are split by alphabet.  Average
> throughput to tape is about 8 to 10 MB/sec from each client, and we do a
> full backup every night.  We keep the weekend fulls at a different
> retention than the weekdays, and backing up this much data makes a
> recovery very simple.  I have reviewed the incremental notes backup, and
> it appears to only get the transaction logs. We have not tested a
> restore from this type of backup, so I don't know how well it works.  I
> think we might just be lucky so far that we've never needed to roll a
> data file forward from logs.  Usually we're restoring the entire .nsf
> file and letting users attach to the current and previous one to manage
> the differences. 
> 
> Along with the full .nsf backups for mail, we also get the transaction
> logs.  I don't think I've ever needed to use them.
> 
> -Jon
> 
> 
> 
> > Hi Boris,
> >
> > We did transaction log bkups until recently, as we were never able to 
get 
> > our "point in time" recoveries to work. I suspect that it's because of 
the 
> > length of time it takes to do the database backup (couple of days for 
just 
> > over 1TB over the LAN). We also multi-streamed the transaction and 
> > database backups to ensure that the transaction log file(s) would be
> > reinitialized.
> >
> > I'm still VERY interested in seeing how other sites are doing their 
Notes
> > backups/restores.
> >
> > /Steve
> > ---
> > On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Boris Kraizman wrote:
> >
> > 
> >> > Hi Steve,
> >> >
> >> > I have to get back to this topic. Do you do transaction log backups 
using
> >> > NBU add-on database agent for Lotus Notes? How it works for you? We 
are
> >> > still doing file level backups with regular NBU client for Windows. 
I was
> >> > asked to evaluate transactional log backups as well, we have a few 
mail
> >> > servers with 0.5TB data on each. We backup them over LAN, I am 
> thinking to
> >> > convert them into SAN media backup servers. Any useful information 
on how
> >> > you do the backup for Domino environment would be really helpful.
> >> >
> >> > I saw Jerry also responded on this topic. Jerry, could you please 
be more
> >> > detail how you do VSS or I can see you do the array based solution 
with
> >> > local copy cloning, correct?
> >> >
> >> > Does anybody do transactional log backups for Domino Notes? Any 
pros and
> >> > cons?
> >> >
> >> > Curtis? maybe you can get back on this one.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you,
> >> > Boris
> >> >
> >> > On 5/15/07, Steve Quan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hi,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> We've been "wrestling" with this for quite some time, and 
> very curious to
> >>> >> see how other sites are managing their Lotus Notes backups. 
> We're running
> >>> >> NBU6.0 MP4 (servers and clients). The database is just over 
> 1TB and we do
> >>> >> transaction log backups.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Thanks,
> >>> >> /Steve
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up a SAN

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/25/2007 07:28:28 PM:

> With NetBackup 6.5, you have the option of a ?SAN client? which is 
> essentially a media server client but without tape drivers.   This 
> allows you to access your SAN-based data and write to a SAN-based 
> disk storage unit.  No network traffic is involved except for the 
> catalog data.

Wow that looks neat, so i did a bit of research. I couldn't find much on 
the symantec site but i did find this:
http://www.dns.at/dnsat/unternehmen/promotions/447a6170c5fabb4a9bf068f6143dd41d.0.0/Veritas_NetBackup_6_5_Clients___Agents_-_Factsheet.pdf
"SAN Client?The SAN client offloads backup traffic from
the LAN and allows for fast backups over the SAN at
approximately 150MB/sec. The SAN client can send data
to a variety of our new disk options and allows you to
back up and restore to disk over the SAN. Data is sent to
media servers via SCSI commands over the SAN rather
than TCP/IP over the LAN to optimize performance. SAN
Clients are supported on all major platforms."

So the SAN client seems to be part of the Enterprise Client.

My question is, can the Enterprise(SAN) client be used with a Database 
client. I'd imagine that it can.

Karl

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.5 - Anyone actually using it?

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/17/2007 01:10:06 AM:

> Having spoken to a Symantec tech recently who keeps close tabs on 
> the dev side in the US, it doesn?t help when people hold off. He 
> mentioned a lot of people held of for 6.0MP1 so a lot of the issues 
> didn?t get fixed until MP2+3.

Interesting corporate culture, I guess they are expecting us to QA their 
product. When we don't do it fast enough, it's our fault.

I'm of the opinion that the scheduler holes should have been caught and 
fixed before 6.0 got released.

I'm not about to upgrade to 6.5 any time soon. I don't have the time this 
year to certify my DR for 6.5 and I'm sure that I'll find bugs with NB/BMR 
somewhere.

It's certified on 6.0MP4 and will stay there till 2008.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.5 - Anyone actually using it?

[Karl . Rossing]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/17/2007 08:05:42 AM:

> Their QA really dropped the ball 
> with this release.

I think you have it right on with this. For instance some of the BMR bugs 
we have seen should have been caught in their QA.

They should have caught the fact that AD wouldn't restore on a Win2k3DC 
when BMR'ed. This took weeks to show them and get things resolved. Good 
thing we caught that in our yearly testing.

NB is huge in scope. I'd like to know what their QA process is like. Maybe 
one day I'll run into the NB product manager.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone take the plunge to 6.0MP5 yet?

[Karl . Rossing]

I only installed on my windows management station running vista.

The admin console seems to work better now in vista. Thats as far as i'll 
take it maybe even for this year.

Karl




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[Veritas-bu] Windows Recycler Directory

[Karl . Rossing]

I have noticed that the recycler directories on some of our servers grow 
rather large.

They are also a pain to clean up since they are tied to the admin of the 
files.

I'm thinking of excluding them from our servers on daily backups but that 
might be a pain to go setup exclusion lists on our servers. I don't want 
to disable the Recycle bins in case someone does something silly from the 
server console.

How do you handle your recycler directories?

 



 
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[Veritas-bu] MSSQL Agent Restores

[Karl . Rossing]

We are thinking of getting the NB 6.0 MSSQL agent.

Can you restore all the MSSQL DB's without SQL running?

Or does MSSQL have to be running with master.mdf

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Re: [Veritas-bu] clients in hosts files and forcing NICs to FULL

[Karl . Rossing]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/12/2007 12:41:01 PM:

> what's best for your environment. As for Windows, I'm not too clear on 
that.
> But if you never want to run into any issues, it's way best to lock 
speeds
> and duplex on BOTH sides. That way you can never go wrong.

We don't lock ports BUT i have noticed a difference with drivers. 
Sometimes the vendor supplied (eg Dell) broadcom/3com/intel are old and 
don't perform as well as the ones available from the NIC manufacturer.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Preventing Media Expiration when doing a Catalog

[Karl . Rossing]

I think i ran into a bug with /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/NOexpire or the 
catalog restore.

I tried to re-import the catalog tape of that were expired but the images 
did not show up. The images and catalog i'm looking for are 3 weeks old 
while the retention is 2 weeks.

So NOexpire either doesn't work or I think the netbackupDB was possibly 
re-applying the transaction logs after the restore.

I restored a 1 week old catalog/images and i can see them fine. I'll find 
out in about 1 week if NOexpire works.

I'm not sure if i'm going to place a service call with Symantec about this 
or not, it depends on how much time i have to log everything they need.

Karl


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/04/2007 10:37:20 AM:

> > We are restoring a catalog tape to our dv environment(same server 
name). 
> > The catalog db seems to be expiring the images we are testing with 
since 
> > time has progressed past the expiry time.
> > 
> > Is there a way to tell the catalog db to not expire any images? 
> 
> I came across this information in the past and wrote it down, but I am
> not sure how well it works.  But reportedly touching
> 
> /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/NOexpire
> 
> will tell netbackup to not perform any expiration.  I figure it's good
> for a decommissioned or DR server that is not actually performing any
> active backups and doesn't need the space.
> 
> -- 
> Darren Dunham   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/
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[Veritas-bu] Preventing Media Expiration when doing a Catalog restore

[Karl . Rossing]

Hi,

We are restoring a catalog tape to our dv environment(same server name). 
The catalog db seems to be expiring the images we are testing with since 
time has progressed past the expiry time.

Is there a way to tell the catalog db to not expire any images? 

If i do an import, the images will expire from the time of the import. 
Shouldn't the same thing happen for Catalog restore?

NB 6.0MP3 running on Solaris 10.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Baremetal on master server

[Karl . Rossing]

We use a solaris flash archive to protect our solaris master server.If you 
add in a hot catalog backup, you're pretty much set.

Karl

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/04/2007 02:37:49 AM:

> No,
> Unfortunately  BMR needs master server to do restores
> 
> stefanos
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Baremetal on master server
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> 
> 
> On NBU 6 , Is it possible to use baremetal to protect master server ?
> 
> Do we need key in baremetal license on master or only on media and
> client.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> HMW 
> 
> 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ZFS snapshots

[Karl . Rossing]

Have you tried a symlink into the snapshot dir?

Karl

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/08/2007 10:27:42 AM:

> Hello.
> 
> On one of the servers which are backed up with NBU 6.0 MP4,
> we're using Solaris 10 and also ZFS. To keep the backup window
> as short as possible, I'm creating ZFS snapshots just before
> the backup policy gets run. I do that "manually" with a script,
> eg. like this: "zfs snapshot pool/[EMAIL PROTECTED]". This
> creates a snapshot, which is accessible over /pool/Teamcenter/.
> zfs/snapshot/backup.
> The .zfs directory is completely invisible:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt $ sudo zfs snapshot pool/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt $ ls -la /pool/Teamcenter/
> total 116
> drwxr-xr-x  22 root root  22 Feb 27 14:33 .
> drwxr-xr-x   5 root sys5 Mar  8 17:15 ..
> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  12 Nov 14 15:51 TT_DB
> drwxrwxr-x  21 dev1 pdmusers  62 Jan 11 20:11 dev1
> [...]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt $ ls -la /pool/Teamcenter/.zfs
> total 3
> dr-xr-xr-x   3 root root   3 Jan 12 18:50 .
> drwxr-xr-x  22 root root  22 Feb 27 14:33 ..
> dr-xr-xr-x   2 root root   2 Jan 12 18:50 snapshot
> 
> How do you guys actually backup ZFS snapshots? I don't really
> want to go the route of having to add 
/pool/Teamcenter/.zfs/snapshot/backup
> to the Backup Selections of a policy, as this would mean, that
> the Backup Selections would have to be updated, when a new
> zfs is created. I don't like this.
> 
> How do you do that?
> 
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[Veritas-bu] 6.0MP4 can you reproduce this

[Karl . Rossing]

By no means is this a big deal.

In the Backup and Restore gui, what happens when you "preview media" when 
the primary copy is located on a dssu? Do you get an error?

Our master is running 6.0MP4 on Solaris 10. I tried the preview with jnbSA 
on the master, backup and restore on the client, and another backup and 
restore on another workstation(server has server=workstation in the 
bp.conf).

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Sneak Peek

[Karl . Rossing]

*cough* thats a pretty big list of enhancements. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/20/2007 01:42:37 PM:

> NetBackup 6.5 BETA version of the Symantec Veritas NetBackup (tm) 
> Release Notes for UNIX, Windows, and Linux (last updated 2/16/2007) 
> http://support.veritas.com/docs/287075
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Re: [Veritas-bu] DSSU Script

[Karl . Rossing]

My dssu resides on a zfs volume. 6.0MP4 doesn't know when a zfs volume is 
full and therefore apparently doesn't make room for new images.

Apparently this will be fixed under mp5.

Karl

Ed Wilts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/15/2007 07:24:14 PM:

> On 2/15/2007 5:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I'd like to build a script that expires dssu images the image has been 

> > relocated to tape. 
> 
> I'd like to ask why you want to do this...  The images will expire if 
> they're no longer needed, and the DSSU-based image will be used first in 

> case a restore is required.  By manually deleting them yourself, you're 
> increasing your restore times.
> 
> > I'm thinking of generating the list images from a directory listing of 

> > the dssu.
> 
> Be careful here because the directory names changed between 5.1 and 6.0 
> and it's possible for a DSSU to have files of both naming standards on 
> the same DSSU.  It's also possible for a future release to incorporate 
> different names.
> 
> What problem are you actually trying to solve?
> 
>.../Ed
> 
> -- 
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[Veritas-bu] DSSU Script

[Karl . Rossing]

I'd like to build a script that expires dssu images the image has been 
relocated to tape.  What command should i use to check if the image has 
been written to tape?

I'm thinking of generating the list images from a directory listing of the 
dssu.

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[Veritas-bu] DSSU fragment size

[Karl . Rossing]

So I noticed today that the Fragment size wasn't set on my DSSU's.

I'm pretty sure that i had it set before. It could have been the 
6.0MP3->MP4 upgrade that disabled the setting or something i did.

I was wondering why i kept getting disk full errors on my dssu's. There 
was enough space BUT NB/Solaris/UFS needed time to remove 230GB files. My 
hope is that the deletion of 512MB files will happen quicker.

I now have seen UFS support 260GB files.

Karl

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.0 & Aptare

[Karl . Rossing]

aptare.




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Spoke to support today. They just ADDED some more support personnel. 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.0 & Aptare

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Spoke to support today. They just ADDED some more support personnel.

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[Veritas-bu] ZFS

[Karl . Rossing]

I'm toying with the idea of running zfs on my DSSU's. This way i can 
compress the data to the dssu as it's being written thus decreasing the 
amount of space needed for the dssu's.

It might not be the best flow
client -> NB Server -> DSSU write the data with zfs compression
zfs uncompress -> tape

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Re: [Veritas-bu] BMR restore error

[Karl . Rossing]

It the 2003 client a Domain Controller?

I ran into a bug regarding the restoration of the sysvol. Veritas released 
an ISO of the BMR boot cd that fixed our problem. It's not fixed under 
MP4.

Karl

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/29/2007 04:35:33 PM:

> Hi!
> 
> I?m getting this error below when trying to restore a Windows 2003 
> client with BMR. 
> NBU 6.0 MP3
> 
> Failed to restore system files, rc=5. Verify Netbackup configurationand 
retry.
> 
> Any help will be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 MySQL backup

[Karl . Rossing]

Simon,

I schedule this threw cron. Cron actually submits all our backups. We 
didn't really get bitten with the Scheduler/EMM problems on NB 6.0 PreMP3. 
Emm was acting goofy when scheduling manual relocations (again pre mp3) 
but thats fixed now.

"WEAVER, Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/25/2007 
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> Karl
> Can you schedule this? Might be an idea to if you can :-)
> 
> 
> Regards
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> 
> We do a nightly shutdown, copy, startup and then backup of our progress 
db's.
> 
> we might be able to get a shutdown, backup and startup of the db's 
> in the same but the copy give the programmers the opportunity to 
> look at yesterdays data. 
> 
> Karl 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/24/2007 12:49:23 
AM:
> 
> > Hi Tim 
> > Snap! same problem! Got a MySQL box and cannot back it up! The agent
> > will not talk to it, therefore I configured MYSQL to do its own 
> > backup and on the odd occasion, take MYSQL down and take an offline 
> > backup of the DB! 
> > 
> > Thats just what I do - may not agree with others ! 
> > 
> > 
> > Regards 
> > Simon Weaver
> > 3rd Line Technical Support
> > Windows Domain Administrator 
> > EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
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> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 MySQL backup
> 
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > Do we just use the normal NBU MSSQL agent to backup MySQL or is a 
> > normal file backup OK? there doesn't seem to be any special agent for 
MySQL.
> > 
> > Cheers,
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Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.0 DSSU Behavior

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My comments are below but i thought that I'd start with my config.

Sun V240 Solaris 10 Master/Media(There is only one)
4GB of Ram
Dual 1.5Ghz
Two scsi LTO2 Autloaders.
Each Autoloader has one LTO2 drive.
Each autoloader is on a separate LVD channel.
1 dual port 2Gig fibre channel card.
One Gigbit Ethernet SX Fibre Card
The SAN has four 2GB fibre channel ports.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/24/2007 02:10:58 PM:

> What are the advantages / disadvantages of assigning multiple DSSUs to
> the same volume?

Slow speed. What i have done is connect each DSSU to it's own Fibre 
Channel Port. This way i can (in theory) get 60MB/Sec per port. This was 
done on Solaris and I only have two DSSU's.

I have to say that i did not bench mark 1 volume for two dssu's. It might 
be beneficial to run a bkkar32 on the DDSU to see how fast you can pull 
data off.

> Example - I've got a 2TB volume on a media server (/array or E:\) that
> has two folders on it, DSSU1 and DSSU2.  Both are configured with a 98%
> High Water Mark and 80% Low Water Mark (defaults.)

The issue that I'm having with the high water mark is that Solaris doesn't 
delete the data fast enough. So for the time being, i have dropped the 
high water mark to 90%.

I also try to make my DSSU's 1.5x larger than one nightly backup. This 
way, if i have tape drive issues, i can deal with them in the morning.


One things that bugs me is that the "final destination volume pool". If i 
want to move data to a different volume pool, I have to change it and 
remember to set it back to my daily. For the time being I'm sending my 
monthend data to the drive directly. Shoe shinning be damned.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 MySQL backup

[Karl . Rossing]

We do a nightly shutdown, copy, startup and then backup of our progress 
db's.

we might be able to get a shutdown, backup and startup of the db's in the 
same but the copy give the programmers the opportunity to look at 
yesterdays data.

Karl

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/24/2007 12:49:23 AM:

> Hi Tim
> Snap! same problem! Got a MySQL box and cannot back it up! The agent
> will not talk to it, therefore I configured MYSQL to do its own 
> backup and on the odd occasion, take MYSQL down and take an offline 
> backup of the DB!
> 
> Thats just what I do - may not agree with others !
> 
> 
> Regards
> Simon Weaver
> 3rd Line Technical Support
> Windows Domain Administrator 
> EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
> Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Sent: 24 January 2007 00:00
> To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 MySQL backup

> Hi,
> 
> Do we just use the normal NBU MSSQL agent to backup MySQL or is a 
> normal file backup OK? there doesn't seem to be any special agent for 
MySQL.
> 
> Cheers,

> - 
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> I.T. Support Officer 
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[Veritas-bu] 6.0 MP4 Bug

[Karl . Rossing]

I found a bug in MP4. If a w2k3sp1 server has DFS enabled, the system 
state (or in 2003 speak "shadow copy components") does not backup.

The bug didn't exist on MP3. Veritas has a fix. I still can't believe that 
this got threw. Maybe they need to buy a couple more QA servers. 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrading from 5.1MP5 to 6.1 in Unix env.

[Karl . Rossing]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/16/2007 08:35:05 AM:

> (4)  Is there a suggested fall-back plan needed in case of major 
> problems with the upgrade. 

Create a Solaris flash archive (man flarcreate) before upgrading. That 
will give you an easy way to roll the whole system back should you need 
to. More info can be found on http://docs.sun.com

The flash archive might not be practical if you have a Large (100GB) 
catalog.

> (5)  Any issues out migrating from 5.8 Solaris to Solaris 10. 

Make sure that you are on the latest Kernel patches. Some Solaris 10 sun4u 
kernels had large shared memory problems(118833-16). I have been using 
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[Veritas-bu] 6.0 Mp4 Weirdness

[Karl . Rossing]

I'm having issues with netbackup not see'ing newly added tapes in our two 
autoloaders. A DSSU is assigned to each autoloader.

For some reason, the inventory works but the manual relocation does not 
find any available media(errors 191 and 96).

The server is NB 6.0 MP4 running on sparc with Solaris 10. 

Normally I have enough tape BUT i'm still fighting with my other tape 
drive (lto2 only backing up 125GB of data to the tape)

I'm on hold with veritas support waiting for an agent(23 minutes) to route 
the call.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Only getting 125GB on LTO2 Tape

[Karl . Rossing]

Just an update, seems to be a drive issue. I was able to write 160GB image 
to another tape drive using the same tape. 

I updated the drive firmware, power cycled the server and all the tape 
drives on the SCSI channel.

I'll be placing a service call on the drive today.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Only getting 125GB on LTO2 Tape

[Karl . Rossing]

I applied the latest kernel patches on friday. went from -22 to -24. 
http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-21-118833-24-1

When i upgraded to MP4, i also did not delete the sg driver and 
re-install. It said something to the effect "The sg driver was not update, 
if you wish you can delete it and re-add it using the following commands"

It's interesting that there is a firmware upgrade for the SUN L8
http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/advsearch.do?collection=PATCH&type=collections&max=50&language=en&queryKey5=116622&toDocument=yes
 
we have two L8 autoloaders.

I grabbed a new tape(Purple Ultirum 2) dropped it in the same drive(HP) 
and backed the system up.

I still got 125GB on one tape.

So I now expired the tape and are using the 2nd tape drive(HP) to rule out 
a drive problem.

What is weird is each drive backed up 400+GB of data on a single tape over 
the weekend. So two 400+GB tapes got written to. I just need to verify 
that tape abc got written by tld0 and tape xyz got written to by tld1.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Only getting 125GB on LTO2 Tape

[Karl . Rossing]

Windows fileshare data. Word, excel, Visio, text and image file formats.

I'm currently writing to a different tape using the same drive. Maybe the 
fujifilm tape is the problem.




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Karl
What sort of Data was being written to the tape?
 
 
Regards
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I'm having a case of the "Mondays". On Friday i upgraded to MP4 from 
6.0MP3. The MP4 upgrade seems to have gone well. 

A backup this weekend only used 125GB of tape and then required a 2nd 
tape. I should get closer to 200GB of data on an LTO2 tape. The tape 
positioned itself to file 1. 

I'm wondering, why didn't more data get written to the LTO2 tape? 

Karl
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[Veritas-bu] Only getting 125GB on LTO2 Tape

[Karl . Rossing]

I'm having a case of the "Mondays". On Friday i upgraded to MP4 from 
6.0MP3. The MP4 upgrade seems to have gone well.

A backup this weekend only used 125GB of tape and then required a 2nd 
tape. I should get closer to 200GB of data on an LTO2 tape. The tape 
positioned itself to file 1.

I'm wondering, why didn't more data get written to the LTO2 tape?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup speeds Windows servers

[Karl . Rossing]

We get between 6MB/sec and 12MB/sec on single streams going to a NB 6.0 
MP3 server running Solaris 10 over the LAN. The data gets staged to the 
SAN and then gets backed up to LTO2 drives.

I have noticed a significant increase in backup speed with BroadCOM copper 
GB adapters by simply upgrading the Microsoft provided driver to a 
Broadcom driver. We currently like version 9.81d. It's kind of hit/miss 
with broadcom, some versions of the driver seem to work better than 
others.

This http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/242918.htm document helps you 
gage the backup disk speed on you're NB client. It's particularly useful 
in ruling out the local drives as a bottleneck.




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I'm curious to hear what kind of speeds (mbs/sec) others are getting 
backing up windows servers. 

Running Netbackup Enterprise 5.1 mp6 under Solaris10 on master/media 
servers. 

a.Using brocade 2g ports 48000 director. 
b.IBM Ultrium LTO Gen2 drives 
c.Sun branded Qlogic 2gb cards. single port feeding each 
tape drive. 
d.The storage on the windows servers is FC attached 
Hitachi Tagmastore 9990.  (Very fast drive configuration.) 
e. Servers are HP G5's also 64 bit. Some are 32 bit. Seems 
32 bit servers are actually faster. 

note: Some of my other backups such as Solaris, Linix and Netware 
can get as much as 20 mb/sec with this configuration. 
So why are the windows servers so slow? Any  one have some kind of 
idea what may be a cause?  Or it is what it is!  Windows! 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Destaging Speed

[Karl . Rossing]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/03/2007 08:57:06 AM:

> Never done DSSUs before.  I'm watching all my destaging happening during
> the week from this weekend's backups  I noticed the duplication jobs
> don't have a write speed on them.  How can I tell how fast the data is
> being written during destaging?  I suppose I could script something to
> compare job duration with amount of data written on the tape but I was
> hoping there would be something easier / better?

The lack of netbackup destaging stats is annoying.

Pretty much the only thing you can run is iostat -xn 10 and watch the 
output. If this is a solaris, you can also try dim_STAT 
http://dimitrik.free.fr/ which will give you historical stats of iostat, 
mpstat, vmstat, etc...

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Trunking in solaris...

[Karl . Rossing]

Paul,

It sounds like you are backing up multiple clients (each has one 
interface) to a single server with two nics.

Can you give a bit more detail on bp.conf config on the client and the 
server?

I'm thinking i can do this with my fibre card and the bge interface on my 
v240.

Karl

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/05/2006 12:23:33 PM:

> Sorta true, Darren.
> 
> However, since in an NBU env, the master initiates the backup, and 
> theclient replies to the interface from which the backup was 
> initiated, youget very good load balancing.
> Ie, the master server starts the backup via interface-A, the client 
> seesthe backup request from interface-A, and then starts 
> transmitting backupdata backup to interface-A.
> I'm getting almost exactly 50:50 loadbalancing of incoming data on 
> apair of GigE NICs.
> You will need to have the "interface name" of both NICs in the 
> clients'bp.conf files.
> However, I'm troubleshooting an issue with hot DB backups that I 
> thinkmight be related to ambiguity between the interface names and 
> thehostname.although I think I may be able to resolve it with a 
> DNShunt pool.If that doesn't work, then I'll probably have to go 
> withEtherChannel/Suntrunking for the master, though I'll probably 
> leave themedia servers as they are.
> Paul
> -- 
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> > -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> auburn.edu > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf > Of Darren Dunham> Sent: December 1, 2006 11:02 AM> To: 
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> Trunking in solaris...> > All versions of Solaris support IPMP in 
> software.  This > allows for a bit> of outbound load sharing, but 
> isn't really appropriate for load> balancing incoming data (as you 
> might want on a netbackup server).  It> does provide you with 
> failover though, and you can balance > the incoming> traffic 
> manually.  If all you need is failover, then it may be> sufficient.>
> > > IP Mulitpathing (IPMP) and Link Aggregation configuration 
> > details should> be in the administrators guide for the version of 
> Solaris you have (if> supported). > 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Trunking in solaris...

[Karl . Rossing]

whoops... I guess i got confused with my v240's bge's that aren't 
supported.

thanks for the clarification.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/04/2006 11:32:46 AM:

> that is not true, I think you can trunk ce interfaces too... I did 
> it on E4500 
> that had two ce0 and ce1 interfaces and they were 1000MBit
> 
> Chris
> 
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Last i checked, you can only trunk 10/100 ports together.
> >
> > GB ports are not supported. That makes sense since the server's I/O 
would
> > be severally bogged down.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/01/2006 11:57:00 
AM:
> >
> >> Thanks all...
> >>
> >> Hampus Lind
> >> Rikspolisstyrelsen
> >> National Police Board
> >> Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43
> >> Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66
> >> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>
> >> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> >> Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Darren Dunham
> >> Skickat: den 1 december 2006 17:02
> >> Till: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> >> Ämne: Re: [Veritas-bu] Trunking in solaris...
> >>
> >>> I`am new to solaris and wonder if anyone know if it's possible to =
> >>> trunk/team
> >>> several network cards under solaris? If so, how do you do it?=20
> >>
> >> All versions of Solaris support IPMP in software.  This allows for a 
bit
> >> of outbound load sharing, but isn't really appropriate for load
> >> balancing incoming data (as you might want on a netbackup server). It
> >> does provide you with failover though, and you can balance the 
incoming
> >> traffic manually.  If all you need is failover, then it may be
> >> sufficient.
> >>
> >> SunTrunking is an extra application that you can run on Solaris.  It
> >> only supports certain hardware in certain combinations.  It's a cost
> >> purchase for versions prior to Solaris 10.
> >>
> >> Solaris 10 can use SunTrunking as well, but also allows for link
> >> aggregation of any networking hardware that uses gld3 drivers.  This 
is
> >> built into Solaris and doesn't require extra software.
> >>
> >> IP Mulitpathing (IPMP) and Link Aggregation configuration details 
should
> >> be in the administrators guide for the version of Solaris you have 
(if
> >> supported).
> >>
> >> --
> >> Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Senior Technical Consultant TAOS http://www.taos.com/
> >> Got some Dr Pepper?   San Francisco, CA bay 
area
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[Veritas-bu] bpkar32 performance test on 6.0mp3

[Karl . Rossing]

I'm having problems running bpkar32 as it's documented in 
http://support.veritas.com/docs/242918

command line is 
C:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin\bpbkar32.exe C:\ -nocont 1> nul 
2>nul

bpbkar logs says
11:27:47.411 AM: [5612.5576] <2> tar_base::V_vTarMsgW: ERR - CONTINUE 
BACKUP message not received
11:27:47.411 AM: [5612.5576] <4> backup_create: INF - NetBackup Temp 
Directory: 'C:\Program Files\VERITAS\\NetBackup\Temp'
11:27:47.411 AM: [5612.5576] <4> tar_base::V_StopKeepaliveThread: INF - 
The Keepalive Thread has Exited. Wait Reason:WAIT_UNKNOWN
11:27:47.411 AM: [5612.5576] <2> tar_base::V_vTarMsgW: INF - EXIT STATUS 
66: client backup failed to receive the CONTINUE BACKUP message
11:27:47.411 AM: [5612.5576] <4> tar_backup::backup_done_state: INF - Not 
waiting for server status
11:27:47.411 AM: [5612.5576] <4> OVStopCmd: INF - EXIT - status = 0

Are the flags different under 6.0?

 



 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Trunking in solaris...

[Karl . Rossing]

Last i checked, you can only trunk 10/100 ports together.

GB ports are not supported. That makes sense since the server's I/O would 
be severally bogged down.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/01/2006 11:57:00 AM:

> Thanks all...
> 
> Hampus Lind
> Rikspolisstyrelsen
> National Police Board
> Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43
> Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Darren Dunham
> Skickat: den 1 december 2006 17:02
> Till: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Ämne: Re: [Veritas-bu] Trunking in solaris...
> 
> > I`am new to solaris and wonder if anyone know if it's possible to =
> > trunk/team
> > several network cards under solaris? If so, how do you do it?=20
> 
> All versions of Solaris support IPMP in software.  This allows for a bit
> of outbound load sharing, but isn't really appropriate for load
> balancing incoming data (as you might want on a netbackup server).  It
> does provide you with failover though, and you can balance the incoming
> traffic manually.  If all you need is failover, then it may be
> sufficient.
> 
> SunTrunking is an extra application that you can run on Solaris.  It
> only supports certain hardware in certain combinations.  It's a cost
> purchase for versions prior to Solaris 10.
> 
> Solaris 10 can use SunTrunking as well, but also allows for link
> aggregation of any networking hardware that uses gld3 drivers.  This is
> built into Solaris and doesn't require extra software.
> 
> IP Mulitpathing (IPMP) and Link Aggregation configuration details should
> be in the administrators guide for the version of Solaris you have (if
> supported). 
> 
> -- 
> Darren Dunham   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Veritas-bu] BMR install/upgrade

[Karl . Rossing]

Be aware that BMR doesn't restore the sysvol directory correctly on 
windows 2003 with 6.0MP3. I'm also pretty sure that mp4 doesn't fix it.

I"m currently working threw this with veritas.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/29/2006 01:27:37 PM:

> Great, found it, thank you so much. I will try to install it and the 
apply 
> patch...
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Sponsler, Michael wrote:
> 
> > The BMR software isn't included with the base netbackup install.  You
> > need to install the Bare Metal Restore software (think of it as an
> > add-on / extension).  It should be on your Options CD.
> >
> > --
> > Mike
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Krzys
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:38 PM
> > To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] BMR install/upgrade
> >
> >
> > Ok, I did find out that we do actually own license for BMR so I wanted
> > to install it and play around with it for a while since we are not
> > utilizing it yet... So I did do the upgrade to my NB 6.0 MP4 and I was
> > trying to then update BMR. So I got the patch for it and BMR is not
> > installed. What do I need to do to install it? I think it is on CD16 
of
> > NB 6.0
> >
> > CD13:
> >   - NBU_60_Windows_32-bit_Server_Client
> >   - NBU_60_Windows_Options
> >   - NBU_60_NeWare_Client
> >   - NBU_60_NeWare_Media_Server_Option
> >   - NBU_60_BMR_Boot_Server
> >   - NBU_60_Java_Windows_Display_Console
> >
> > So I did download CD13, unpacked it, but when I try to install it I do
> > not see it
> >
> > and my upgrade fails:
> > [12:31:13] server11: /root/netbackup > ./Vrts_pack.install
> >
> > There are 12 packs available in /root/netbackup:
> > (* denotes installed pack)
> >
> > NB_60_4_M *
> > NB_ADC_60_4_M
> > NB_BBS_60_4_M
> > NB_BMR_60_4_M
> > NB_CLT_60_4_M *
> > NB_DMP_60_4_M *
> > NB_ENC_60_4_M
> > NB_JAV_60_4_M *
> > NB_LOT_60_4_M *
> > NB_NOM_60_4_M
> > NB_ORA_60_4_M *
> > NB_VLT_60_4_M
> >
> > Enter pack name (or q) [q]: NB_BMR_60_4_M
> >
> > ERROR: You must first install the BMR Master Server Base Release.
> > ERROR: Pack NB_BMR_60_4_M will not be installed.
> >
> >
> > What do I need to download and install in order to apply this NB 6.0 
MP4
> > patch?
> >
> > Thanks for help.
> >
> > Chris
> >
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[Veritas-bu] 6.0 MP3 Bug

[Karl . Rossing]

We ran into a bug with 6.0MP3 while
testing our BMR.

The Contents of c:\windows\sysvol
gets restored to c:\windows\sysvol\domain instead of c:\windows\sysvol\widgets.ca

Symptoms are that you are able to
login to the AD server only with cached credentials. All other user accounts
don't work. The DNS server also crashes after a bit.

In my eyes, this is a pretty nasty
bug because you probably can't do an authoritative restore.

This could be a BMR restore issue
or a NB Restore issue. We currently have an open case with veritas as does
one other person.

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[Veritas-bu] W2k3R1 DC Fast Boot BMR

[Karl . Rossing]

I just want to verify a couple of things.
We are in the process of BMR'ing two W2k3R1 servers using the BMR Fast
Boot (NB 6.0MP3)CD/DVD in a test environment.

I'm asking because the DNS Server service
stops every once and a while on the BMR'ed DC's. The two DC's in question
are also trying to connect to other DC's in the domain but can't because
they are on a test network. 

Also,  BMR'ed domain members can't
connect to the DC's. They seem to loose their credentials but still think
that they are part of the domain.

Is there any added tasks needed to complete
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[Veritas-bu] DSSU's, 191's and Imports

[Karl . Rossing]

I have a single master production  NB
6.0MP3 server. I also have a separate DR NB master. The DR master is a
clone of the Production NB server using Solaris 10 flash archive.

I do daily backups of the Prod NB server
using DSSU's. I get error 191's from time to time because of lack of media
in my autoloaders(2).

The 191's usually occur on 200+GB images.

I'm importing the Prod NB tapes into
the DR NB server.  Now the incomplete 191 images get imported from
tape Number 123 but tape number 124 actually has the complete image. So
i have to figure out which tape had the 191(tape 123), expire that image
and then go and import tape 124. This is a pain to figure out. Is there
a way to avoid importing images that have finished with 191's?

I suppose the best way might be with
a hot catalog backup and thus avoiding the scanning of each tape. Or i
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[Veritas-bu] BMR 6.0MP3 Fast Windows Restore CD/DVD

[Karl . Rossing]

Sometimes it pays to read the release
notes on Maintenance Packs. In this case MP3.

"All Windows BMR Boot Servers now
contain a new wizard to assist in
   creating a CD image to
be used for the Fast Restore feature.  

   This new feature is an
exciting fast-windows-restore feature to the Bare
   Metal Restore (BMR) option.
 This feature can perform a complete restore
   of a Windows system in
as little as 15 minutes.  This feature means it is
   no longer necessary to
create DOS-based floppies or CDs.   In addition,
   this new feature enables
BMR to operate in a low-infrastructure mode,
   where the BMR Boot Server,
Windows Shared Resource Tree, and the
   Prepare-To-Restore step
are no longer mandatory to restore a Windows
   System.  

   For a description of how
to use this new feature, along with feature
   requirements and limitations,
please refer to the Symantec TechDoc #283726.
   This document can be accessed
on the Symantec Support Web site using the
   following URL:

   http://support.veritas.com/docs/283726"


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[Veritas-bu] Server 2003 AD Restore

[Karl . Rossing]

I'm trying to do an AD restore of  2003
server using NB 6.0MP3 using  http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/f66ee9e4-96d7-4f74-a2fe-d669194bf5a21033.mspx?mfr=true

The restore works fine, i reboot the
server and things seem to work for a while. Then the server seems to loose
it's marbles. Active directory seems to just barf. DNS and Login's no longer
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[Veritas-bu] BMR 6.0 Testing

[Karl . Rossing]

Hi,

we are trying to restore a windows server
using Netbackup 6.0. The boot server is a win2k3r2. We are having troubles
reading the SRT. Is there something we are missing? Can an SRT reside on
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Re: [Veritas-bu] How important is Processing Power?

[Karl . Rossing]

Intel computes power consumption on
normal server load. SUN/ADM calculate the power consumption of their CPU's
on 100% cpu usage.
http://blogs.sun.com/bmseer/entry/woodcrest_lots_o_watts
http://blogs.sun.com/bmseer/entry/dell_woodcrest_draws_2x_to

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on
09/22/2006 02:33:13 PM:

> If nothing else, multiple cores will reduce your power and air needs
off
> setting any disadvantage.
> Expecially with the new Intel Woodcrest chips.
> 
> 
> Jim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin,
> Jonathan (Contractor)
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 12:01 PM
> To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] How important is Processing Power?
> 
> 
> I'm speccing servers etc and management ever wanting so pinch a penny
> wants to know how important dual processors are.  Not only is
there the
> added server expense, but both Windows and NBU licenses for multiple
> processors are more expensive.  We're looking at Intel Dual Core
Xeon
> 5060s w/ 2x2MB Cache, 3.2Ghz, 1066Mhz FSB on a Dell Power Edge 2950
w/
> 4GB RAM.  I originally spec'd two processors (two dual cores)
which I'm
> certain will be quite powerful enough to drive 4 Gigabit nics to disk
> over fiber.  But how important is it, and can 1 do the job?  Anyone
> running anything similar?
> 
> -Jonathan
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[Veritas-bu] NB 6.0 Article

[Karl . Rossing]

Storage Magazine has an article on the
problems in NB 6.0 and the people that had to deal with it.

http://storagemagazine.techtarget.com/magLogin/1,291245,sid35_gci1214739,00.html___
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[Veritas-bu] Flashbackup and Database clients

[Karl . Rossing]

will flashbackup help speedup my lotus
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Fame at last.

[Karl . Rossing]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on
09/07/2006 06:49:51 PM:

>
> NBU 6.0 should not have shipped as it was.  However, what's done
is 
> done.  Perhaps it was a marketing decision or perhaps it was
a 
> engineering decision with poor testing - we'll probably never know.

> What we do know is that the 6.0 binaries coming out now are better
than 
> they were before.
> 

Didn't the same thing happen with 5.0?

Solaris 10 forced US to go NB 6.0MP1.

Nothing is going to force us to go 7.0 until many
MP's have been released.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] General Q - Gathering Backup Requirements How-to

[Karl . Rossing]

Hadrian,

The May 2006 issue of storage magazine
had an article on just that topic BUT i don't think it answers you're question
directly.

From: http://storagemagazine.techtarget.com/magLogin/1,291245,sid35_gci1188735,00.html
===
The DR plan specifies only system RTOs,
not data center RTOs.

Most companies that have negotiated
RTOs have negotiated these numbers for individual systems. For example,
a common RTO is that any system in the data center must be recovered within
four hours. While this works fine for operational recoveries and system-level
outages, it doesn't work when the entire data center is lost. It's usually
assumed that a system that needs to be recovered is given access to all
system resources. For example, a large database server that needs to be
recovered is given access to all 20 tape drives in the tape library. But
what happens when 20 or 100 servers need to be recovered? They can't all
be given access to all 20 tape drives in the tape library.

This is quite possibly the most difficult
conversation that needs to occur between IT and those business units that
need a DR plan. It brings to light one of the core problems with traditional
backup and recovery: In a true disaster, it's fairly certain that the storage
department isn't going to meet its RTOs or RPOs. Unless your company is
able to live without its data for several days, the only way to have an
entire data center's data available after a disaster is if it was "recovered"
before the disaster happened. Traditionally, this has been accomplished
with replication. Depending on the amount of data, it can also be accomplished
with other technologies. But realistically, the working RPOs and RTOs of
most companies don't allow the recovery of an entire data center to begin
after a disaster. 
===

It's a good magazine and the subscription
is free,


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on
08/14/2006 01:28:09 PM:

> I have the task of documenting RTO and RPO across our Enterprise and
> had some questions. 
> I feel like asking Departments how soon do you
need restores will 
> yield… arguments and confusion. 
> Do most people present a few different solutions
and cost and say pick one? 
> I somehow feel like the need to get data on "How
much money do we 
> loose every minute of downtime" is going a bit high level, but

> NECESSARY for establishing the RTO / RPOs in a realistic manner.
> What do you guys/gals think?  Any help for
a burgeoning SAN / Backup
> engineer would be helpful :) 
> Hadrian Baron 
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> VEGAS.com 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Dell Perc Drivers for BMR

[Karl . Rossing]

The version of the DOS driver can also
greatly affect the restoration speed. Drivers from broadcom.com have worked
better for me than the one that were on support.dell.com but you're milage
may vary. :)

Karl






"Ray Schafer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
08/01/2006 05:55 PM




To
"Brooks, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,



cc



Subject
Re: [Veritas-bu] Dell Perc Drivers for
BMR








You don't need a DOS driver for the Perc RAID cards.
 The disk read and
writes are allowed using interrupts through the Adapter BIOS.

You will need to make sure you have the right DOS network driver.  If
it
is the Dual port Intel-Based GigE, then make sure you hae the correct
E1000.DOS driver - the one made for that card.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooks,
Jason
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 10:10 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Dell Perc Drivers for BMR

We're trying, yet again, to test a BMR restore on a Dell server.  In
order to get it to boot, I've been trying to find a DOS driver for a
Dell Perc 3/di RAID controller.  The only ones I've found are either
on
a boot disk or Windows only.  Has anyone had success in using BMR
with
this, or a similar Perc controller?  Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Jason


Jason Brooks
Computer Systems Engineer
IITS - Longwood University
voice - (434) 395-2916
fax - (434) 395-2035
mailto:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

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[Veritas-bu] 6.0 MP2 Shared Memory Issue?

[Karl . Rossing]

Admins,

We have one 6.0 MP2 Master/Media server
running on Solaris 10.  The server has been running fine for a while
(uptime: 19 days). I was running debug vxlog (level 6) logging. I also
had the bplogs (open/netbackup/logs/bpxyz) cranked up to five but turned
all that down to one yesterday. Restarted netbackup.

A good portion of our backups did not
run correctly last night. Here is some of the more salient entries in the
problem log.
        system
call failed - Not enough space (at bpdm.c.3311)
        could
not allocate enough shared memory for backup buffers
        backup
of client xyz exited with status 89 (problems encountered during setup
of shared memory)

Now here is what i have found confusing,
Solaris 10 now has resource controls for most of their shared memory settings.
For example, setting msginfo_msgmnb has no effect:
        *
NOTE: As of Solaris 10, System V IPC tunables are unnecessary.  The
        *
"msginfo_msgmnb" tunable has been replaced with a resource control;
        *
the assignment below has been left to provide compatibility with your
        *
previous settings.  For more details, see the Solaris 10 "What's
New"
        *
document, or the "Solaris Tunable Parameters Reference Manual".
        set
msgsys:msginfo_msgmnb=65536

I'm waiting for veritas technical support
engineer to get back to me.

I'm left wondering if there is an issue
with MP2. Have you run into a problem with MP2 shared memory?


 





 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Staging in Netbackup Ver 6.0 MP2

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on
06/28/2006 02:06:16 PM:

> Hi 
>         Have Netbackup Server Base Edition Ver
6.0 + MP2 installed 
> and configured on my UNIX machines. Have One master as well as Media
> configured to backup 25 clients.
> Wanted to create a DSU for temporary disk staging
area to be dumped 
> to tapes at a later time. Follow the procedure given in the docs to

> create the DSU but I just do not see the "Low Water Mark"
stuff 
> enabled for me to anything nor do I see any checkbox to state that

> this is a temp staging area.
> I thought that functionality of disk staging
was available under 
> Netbackup Server Base Edition. 

I'm guessing you mean DSSU. Anyway,
i have noticed that you can no longer set the high and low water mark with
MP2. Specifically using the Windows Gui connecting to a Unix master/media.

I'm pretty sure you could set it in
MP1 and GA.

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[Veritas-bu] cold catalog backup

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Hi,

I'm trying to disable cold catalog backup
configuration. For some reason the 6.0MP2 gui(NT and jnbSA) won't allow
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[Veritas-bu] DSSU/bpduplicate Question

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Copy 1 is considered the data sitting
on the DSSU
Copy 2 is considered the data copied
to tape

I'd like to do some testing, so i'd
like to create a 3rd copy. Doing a manual relocation isn't possible since
the data is already to tape.

Would i just run bpduplicate manually?
My assumption is that the new tapes will be copy 3.

Copy 3 tapes will end up in our DR server.
The DR server is a 2 week old clone of the current master.

When i merge the copy 3 tapes in, will
the DR server know that the tapes are copy 3? Will it need copy 2 or maybe
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[Veritas-bu] NB 6.0MP2 BMR

[Karl . Rossing]

Hi,

I'd just like to verify something. As
it relates to windows servers, SRT's are kept on the windows boot server
but driver/servicepack packages are kept on the netbackup master.

I'm thinking that in the event of a
DR, netbackup master is cloned and all i have to do is install a BMR boot
server on any computer and add the SRT's. Then the packages should flow
from the netbackup master.

I know this is changing with winpe boot
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[Veritas-bu] Renaming NB 6.0MP2 servers

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I'd like to rename a NB 6.0MP2 master
server. In fact, i want to clone my master production server  and
rename it at our DR site.

As far as i know this isn't really supported
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Re: [Veritas-bu] 2Gb/s FC read speed

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In the end, the SUN box in question needed patch 119130-16.zip and for
some reason, smpatch didn't know it needed it. System is now running at
full speed. 

Thanks to all that helped out(Ed, Roy
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[Veritas-bu] NB 6.0MP2 Compress Catalog Bug

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Admins,

I've been having problems with a particular
clients db/images directory. It seemed that some images were not being
deleted.

It turns out that bpdb isn't able to
delete compress catalogs that expire. It essentially orphans them which
leads to you're client images growing.

The bug ID is 897766. You should contact
veritas in order to get a work around. Apparently the fix is slated for
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RE: [Veritas-bu] 2Gb/s FC read speed

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/05/2006
09:39:23 AM:

> Here are some tests you can run :
>  
> TEST CLIENT DISK READ SPEED
> 
> 1) Read the data and write to /dev/null:
>   a) with tar
>        timex tar cvf /dev/null /dssu1

With this, i was able to determine that the problem is related to the HBA/FileSystem
and not the tape drives. Netbackup server gets no more than 50MB/s while
another server with more ram get 100MB/s(as checked with iostat)

I'll work on the filesystem first and
then unconfigure and reconfigure the FC ports if needed.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] 2Gb/s FC read speed

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/05/2006
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> Tools like iometer on Windows and Bonnie on Unix can help you benchmark
> your disk subsystem.  You can also do backups to the null device.
 See
> http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/242918.htm.  This allows
you to
> have bpkar32 process data locally, and elmiinate network connectivity
> and tape performance from the picture.  

Thats awesome, I'll do that later this afternoon on
the dssu's.

So far i was doing cp /dssu1 /tmp and iostat'ing that
BUT as /tmp fills up so does swap.





 





 
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[Veritas-bu] 2Gb/s FC read speed

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Hi,

I'm getting slow DSSU -> LTO2 tape
drive performance. I think the problem is related to the SAN since the
DSSU uses two mount points(/dssu1 and /dssu2).

I'm seeing 16MB/s on one LTO2 drive
and 27MB/s on the other LTO2 tape drive using iostat. Both drives are LVD
connected to the same card but using a different port.

Under ideal circumstances, how fast
should i be able to read data off a dual port 2Gb/s hba assuming it's directly
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[Veritas-bu] still have a large db/images/clientxyz directory

[Karl . Rossing]

I have expired all the clientxyz images,
but the client images are still sitting at 2GB even though i did a bpimage
-cleanup. NB 6.0MP2.

Any susgestions?



 





 
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Question - BMR Boot - Windows

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> But I don’t understand the issue with the Windows
Boot Server.  We 
> require this on all of the other platforms. The Boot Server can be

> an existing NBU client – doesn’t have to be an NBU server, doesn’t

> have to be dedicated to being a Boot Server – it can be an 
> application server.  It can be protected as a BMR client as well
by 
> using the BMR CD-Based SRT.  In fact, the Boot Server service
is 
> always idle unless you are building an SRT, or doing a restore –

> which is not very common in the day to day operation of NetBackup.

>  You could even wait until you have to do a restore, and then
build 
> a Boot Server and SRT.

In 4.7 i could use a Solaris server
as a boot server for both windows and solaris.

In 6.0 i have to use a windows server
as a boot server. I have to restore my solaris server and then i have to
build or restore(eg: ntbackup) a windows server in order to bmr boot windows
clients.That takes a little bit more planning.

Anyway, it sounds like that will be
moot with winPE/BMR.




 





 
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Question - BMR Boot - Windows

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/14/2006
10:28:26 PM:

> We are working on getting rid of DOS entirely soon.  We'll be
using a
> new method to recover the system. Much faster, no DOS, no temporary
> install of Windows.

Ray, Does this mean that a windows BMR
boot server may no longer required?

In 4.7 windows clients were able to
get their install files off of a UNIX server

In 6.0 windows clients had to get their
install files off of a windows boot server.

If you are a Unix Netbackup shop, having
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooks,
> Jason
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Question - BMR Boot - Windows
> 
> So, would you suggest disabling emm386?  I can grab a new nic
driver
> easily enough. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Jason 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > 
> > 
> > Two things come to mind 
> > 
> > 1) problem with emm386/himem and the dos nic driver
> > 2) boot floppy image on the bmr server is corrupt 
> > 
> > I havn't had a problem with 1) but i have had a problem with

> > a corrupted floppy on the server with BMR 6.0MP1. I had to 
> > contact support and have them walk me threw deleting the 
> > image in the BMR/netbackup database. 
> > 
> > You are not at the point of the mac address yet. that will 
> > come later after windows is installed. Count on more fun to come.

> > 
> > Hope that helps. 
> > 
> > Karl
> > 
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/04/2006 
> > 01:10:20 PM:
> > 
> > > I'm testing BMR and trying a somewhat complex restore for

> > the first try.
> > > We've done a BMR backup of one of our Windows servers and
I 
> > am trying 
> > > to restore it to another box, our old BackupExec server.
 Both are 
> > > Dell boxes, but different models.
> > > 
> > > I've created a custom boot disk using the DOS NIC and MSD

> > drivers for 
> > > the restore client.  I've looked through the BMR Sys
Admin 
> > guide and 
> > > saw several references to doing something with the new MAC
address, 
> > > but I never saw what to do.  So, here's what happens:
> > > 
> > > With the boot disk in, started a restore process and rebooted
the 
> > > restore client.
> > > 
> > > It goes through the normal post operations and then:
> > > 
> > > Starting PC Dos...
> > > 
> > > IBM RAMDrive ver 3.10 virtual disk C:
> > > Disk Size: 2048K
> > > Sector: 512 bytes
> > > AllocationUnit: 2 Sectors
> > > Directory Entries: 64
> > > 
> > > And then it just sets there.  I've tried generic boot
disk, custom.
> > > I've copied the current config on my BMR'd Windows box,
and 
> > tried the 
> > > restore with that config.  Still nada.
> > > 
> > > Anyone have any suggestions?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jason
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Images Directory

[Karl . Rossing]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/13/2006
09:34:13 AM:

> To all:
>  
> This is kind of urgent.  
>  
> What is stored in the directory /opt/openv/netbackup/db/images.
 We 
> all off a sudden are filling up our
> “ / “ file system after activating a new set
of policies and it 
> seems that this is the culprit.  Any input would be great.
>  
> I assumed that this is where the backup images
are.  If this is the 
> case and it has to do with the catalog has anyone effectively 
> moved the images directory to somewhere else
via a link or what not.
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> Lee Logan

We kind of ran into the same problem.
One of our clients had a huge images directory. I'm still working threw
the problem, but the reason why that client had a huge images directory
was that it had millions of files being backed up every night. A nightly
cron job was generating thousands of files every day.

Our work around was to exclude that
directory and drop the nightly number of files to under 300K from a couple
million.

try a du -sk /opt/openv/netbackup/db/images/*
| sort -n should give you an idea of where things are growing and then
check the number of files being backed up using the "Client Backups"
report.

Don't rm /opt/openv/netbackup/db/images/
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Question - BMR Boot - Windows

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> And do you have it documented how to delete the
archived images?
> Shareable? 

Unfortunately not. You will need to contact support.


 





 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Question - BMR Boot - Windows

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Two things come to mind

1) problem with emm386/himem and the
dos nic driver
2) boot floppy image on the bmr server
is corrupt

I havn't had a problem with 1) but i
have had a problem with a corrupted floppy on the server with BMR 6.0MP1.
I had to contact support and have them walk me threw deleting the image
in the BMR/netbackup database.

You are not at the point of the mac
address yet. that will come later after windows is installed. Count on
more fun to come. 

Hope that helps.

Karl


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/04/2006
01:10:20 PM:

> I'm testing BMR and trying a somewhat complex restore for the first
try.
> We've done a BMR backup of one of our Windows servers and I am trying
to
> restore it to another box, our old BackupExec server.  Both are
Dell
> boxes, but different models.
> 
> I've created a custom boot disk using the DOS NIC and MSD drivers
for
> the restore client.  I've looked through the BMR Sys Admin guide
and saw
> several references to doing something with the new MAC address, but
I
> never saw what to do.  So, here's what happens:
> 
> With the boot disk in, started a restore process and rebooted the
> restore client.
> 
> It goes through the normal post operations and then:
> 
> Starting PC Dos...
> 
> IBM RAMDrive ver 3.10 virtual disk C:
> Disk Size: 2048K
> Sector: 512 bytes
> AllocationUnit: 2 Sectors
> Directory Entries: 64
> 
> And then it just sets there.  I've tried generic boot disk, custom.
> I've copied the current config on my BMR'd Windows box, and tried
the
> restore with that config.  Still nada.
> 
> Anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jason
> 
> 
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> Computer Systems Engineer
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Re: [Veritas-bu] BMR

[Karl . Rossing]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/24/2006
04:04:10 PM:

> I got a question for you all.
> 
> So what is a big deal about BMR anyway? I thought its just a 
> glorified Jumpstart.

You can do most of the same with Solaris with a Jumpstart
and a flash archive.

BMR customizes Jumpstart but you don't need to incur
the Gigabytes of the flash archive since it uses netbackup to restore the
server.

Think of BMR as a quick way of completely restoring
a server if one server should fail.

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.0 MP1 and BMR

[Karl . Rossing]

1) You will need a Windows Server setup
as a Windows BMR boot server. This is a Big change from NB 4.6, we complained
to our sales rep about this. Since we have a Solaris 10 master, we need
another windows computer to boot the other clients. It seems that the reason
that it was changed because of
a.) complaints about samba security.
Sounds pretty cheesy to me
b.) in order to restore windows servers
you needed a UNIX server
2) You can't BMR a solaris 10 client.
We use solaris flash archives to restore those servers. This will be fixed
in future maintenance packs.
3) Make sure you have the latest maintenance
pack installed. MP2 for NB 6.0 should be out shortly.
4) If you have a BMR client with MSDE
installed into a custom instance, BMR will not be able to get transfer
its configuration to the boot server. There is a work around, support ca
help you with that.

We generally take our master server
off-line and move it to a test network to do restores during the day. Our
master server does not do any backups during the day. I had to build a
separate restore procedure for the windows boot server for our DR procedure.
It's is PIA. Man, item one is sure ryelling me up when typing this.

BMR will take more time to test than
you think. It's the little things that don't end up working during the
testing that you spend days on. Once you have things ironed out, it's easy
as pie.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/24/2006
02:42:18 PM:

> I have a simple NetBackup 6.0 setup with Windows and
> Solaris servers. Master is Solaris 10. Most of them
> are in the same segment. I want to set up and test BMR
> for 2 Solaris machines and 1 windows 2003 server(they
> are in the same subnet as my master). 
> 
> Do you have a simple one or two page procedure to do
> it?
> Basically I am looking for what software goes on where
> and the sequence?
> Secondly how to configure BMR, high level instructions
> will do.
> Thirdly, any gotchas?
> 
> BTW I can make my master the boot server also, i have
> options, as I also have another spare server (Soalris
> 10) on the same subnet. Best practices?
> 
> Thanks and have a great weekend.
> 
> MK
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[Veritas-bu] windows bpstart and bpend

[Karl . Rossing]

I'm running NB 6.0MP1

much like Solaris, bpend and bpstart
run with each stream.

How can i get them to run only once
per backup.

Thanks
Karl

Re: [Veritas-bu] "/opt/openv/netbackup/db/images"

[Karl . Rossing]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/03/2006
03:09:47 PM:

> Right command ... wrong parameter ;-)
> 
> Try .../bpimage -cleanup -client clientxyz

catstore is still too big...

/usr/bin/find ./ -type d -name catstore
-exec du -sk {} \;|sort -n
49309 ./113400/catstore
49592 ./113300/catstore
347548 ./113800/catstore
394647 ./113500/catstore
394725 ./113700/catstore
442168 ./113600/catstore

maybe i should mention that i upgraded to NB 6.0 at
the end of december. I wonder if it left some junk in the trunk ;)

[Veritas-bu] "/opt/openv/netbackup/db/images"

[Karl . Rossing]

I have a client that is using 1.8GB.
in /opt/openv/netbackup/db/clientxyz.

I went into
master server
        catalog
         
      and deleted the client images

 /opt/openv/netbackup/db/images/clientxyz is still about 1.6GB

I also ran /opt/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpimage
-compress -client clientxyz

How do i go about pairing it down?

Thanks
Karl

RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup monitoring

[Karl . Rossing]

We use Aptare also. I like it. We are
a small company netbackup shop. We bought it for historical tracking.

Karl

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/26/2006
03:28:41 PM:

> Greg
>  
> We use Aptare Storage Console http://www.aptare.com/
and find it to 
> be the best monitoring tool on the market.  We did an extensive
POC 
> bakeoff with (Symantec) CC Service, Bocada and Aptare.   Our
NOC 
> uses the command center dashboard in the product to monitor all 
> masters.  Feel free to reply with your phone number if you want
any details.
>  
> Monte
>  
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:veritas-bu-
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> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup monitoring
>  
> Solaris 9 nb5.1 mp4 
> Does anyone use external monitoring tools for
netbackup?  We have 
> many custom scripts created to perform some monitoring tasks but I

> have been tasked with looking for something that can automate allot

> of the monitoring without having to write a customer script for 
> everything. Management also wants our NOC people to take over some

> of the monitoring for us to allow us to get to the real work instead
> of worry about upping drives or restarting failed jobs. Any ideas?
>   
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Request for feedback on NetBackup 6.0 MP1

[Karl . Rossing]

In case you missed it

In-Depth Troubleshooting Guide for Exit Status Code 41
in NetBackup Server (tm) / NetBackup Enterprise Server (tm) 6.0 
http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/278422.htm

Karl

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/25/2006
01:50:40 PM:

> We're in the process of moving from our 4.5FP8 system to 6.0MP1
> (everythin new). The major problem we're seeing, are ERROR 41's as
> we start "loading up" the media servers. These would occur
in
> batches and appear on the more heavily loaded media server.
> 
> Any 6.0 environments out there experiencing the same ?
> 
> /Steve
> ---
> On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Tarik El Mansouri wrote:
> 
> >  All,
> >
> > Has anyone already upgraded its NetBackup solution from 5.1 MP3
to6.0 MP1 ?
> > My customer environment is composed of Windows 2003 servers,
Exchange
> > clusters, SQL and Notes databases.
> > Veritas Security Services are also implemented on the master
server.
> >
> > Any feedback will be appreciated.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Tarik
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [Veritas-bu] win2k DC restoration

[Karl . Rossing]

Microsoft has a document about dissimilar
HAL's...
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=263532

It doesn't seem to cover moving from
SCSI to ide. Which i think is my current problem...

Karl

"Spearman, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote on 01/24/2006 09:11:17 AM:

> In restoring a DC the steps are very straight foward but slightly

> different from a DR restore of a member server
>  
> 1. Load the correct version of windows (standard,
enterprise, 
> whatever) and make it a member of a workgroup with the same name as
the domain
> 2. Create the disk layout (C, D, E, etc of appropriate
sizes)
> 3. Load NBU agent
> 4. Reboot the server and on reboot F8 the system
and choose the 
> DOMAIN CONTROLLER RESTORE MODE
> 5. Restore the entire system EXCEPT boot.ini
> 6. After the restore reboot, the system will
come up and resync with
> the other DC's (if any). Resync can take up to 45 minutes depending

> on your network.
>  
> David Spearman
> County of Henrico, Va.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:veritas-bu-
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> Subject: [Veritas-bu] win2k DC restoration

> 
> Hi, 
> 
> I'm doing to DR testing. I have a unix master and i'd like to 
> restore the BMR boot/win2k domain controller. 
> 
> In past versions of windows, I have installed windows to c:\winnt.dr
> and then restored the server and set the boot.ini to boot from c:\winnt

> 
> With win2k, i can restore the system state, so if i want to restore

> my domain controller, can i install windows to winnt and then 
> restore the c: and system state to get the server back? 
> 
> Karl

[Veritas-bu] win2k DC restoration

[Karl . Rossing]

Hi,

I'm doing to DR testing. I have a unix
master and i'd like to restore the BMR boot/win2k domain controller.

In past versions of windows, I have
installed windows to c:\winnt.dr and then restored the server and set the
boot.ini to boot from c:\winnt

With win2k, i can restore the system
state, so if i want to restore my domain controller, can i install windows
to winnt and then restore the c: and system state to get the server back?

Karl

Re: [Veritas-bu] anyone using LTO3 with Solaris 8?

[Karl . Rossing]

Did you get the latest mappings.txt?

Here is the NB 6.0 version...
http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/281082.htm

I think the wizard uses mappings.txt...

an updated st driver might do the trick
also patch 108725-22
for s2.8

Karl






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I previously had four LTO2 drives in each
of two librariesdo to a bad GBIC in a switch, and several subsequent
events, one drive wasn't visable, so my backup server was only seeing 7
drives.
 
Last night, I replaced the 8 port Sun FC
switches with a couple of Brocade 3800s that were released from another
project, and added an additional 3 LTO3 drives in each library.
 
I did a /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/sg.build, followed
by an sg.install
 
I've added the following to the /kernel/drv/st.conf
 
        "HP  
   Ultrium 3",           "HP
Ultrium LTO3",   "ULTRIUM3";
 
ULTRIUM3 = 1,0x36,0,0xd639,4,0x44,0x44,0x44,0x44,3;
I can see all the drives when I do a:
bash-2.03# cfgadm -al -o show_FCP_dev
 
all eight LTO2, and six LTO3
 
devfsadm, or a boot -r picks up all the devices
properly, and creates all the proper device files, but sgscan sees only
the 7 LTO2 drives.
I used tpconfig to remove all of the old
drive configs and re-ran the GUI device configuration wizard, but it sees
7 LTO2 drives, and 2 drives of unknown type.
 
sg.conf is up to date with all WWN maps,
etc.so sg.conf isn't reporting any errors about unmapped WWNs.
 
I used tpconfig and manually configured all
14 drives and can exercise them using robtest, but sgscan and the device
config wizard still see the same.
 
any idears?
 
Paul

Re: [Veritas-bu] Performance issue

[Karl . Rossing]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/23/2006
07:18:06 AM:

> Netbackup version 5.1.4.  Solaris 9 master/media server.
> Our windows file server (win2003) backup has
just started taking a 
> very long time for the shadow copy components.  Normally a 10
minute
> backup is now taking over 5 hours.  The backup of the "C"
and "P" 
> drive are running at normal times.  

We just went threw poor performance on our lotus notes
server. We updated the BIOS, raid controller firmware, raid driver, which
improved performance. We just got threw doing a defrag(98% fragmentation)
last night. So i'll know tomorrow how much faster it is.

> I'm curious to know if anybody else has seen
this after applying the
> windows January patches?

No but we don't patch often either.

Re: [Veritas-bu] Need to Upgrade Sun hardware and upgrade OS as well....

[Karl . Rossing]

I believe the drives in the 220r and
440 are interchangeable.

You should be able to put your 220r
drives into the 440r and boot off of those drives.

With luck you have the 220r drives mirrored
to another drives. So if things go south, you have something to move back
to.

Then the tricky part might show up because
the 440r might not be architecturally similar to the 220r. My hunch is
that they are architecturally which will make the boot super easy.

If they are not, dust off the most recent
Solaris 8 (02/04 was the last release)install media that you have. Run
an upgrade on the 440r with the 220r disk installed. That should apply
the  driver updates you need to boot.

After that it's a matter of cleaning
things up.

My guess is that your running NB 3.4.
Which will run fine on Solaris 8.

Don't go to solaris 10 with NB 6.0 if
your planning on using BMR.

Karl

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/17/2006
09:37:25 AM:

> 
> Well.. 
> 
> We are now in a fire fighting mode... 
> 
> There are jobs hanging all over the place!  And it looks like
a 
> issue with the env and not really a NBU issue 
> 
> We have the following env: 
> 
> 1 Sun 2.6 master 220r 2 gig ram 2 cpu(s) controlling 16 media servers...

> 
> We have available a 440r 8 gig ram 4 cpu(s). 
> 
> I need a start on how to move NBU from the 220r to the 440r 
> 
> Note:  Keeping the same hostname. 
> 
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Windows File Fragmentation

[Karl . Rossing]

The server i'm having high fragmentation
is a Lotus Domino server. I talked to lotus and they do not recommend defragmentation
while domino is running.

I'd probably need a 4 to 8hr outage
window to defrag the drive.

Today i had a small outage window on
the server so i upgraded the Raid Controller Firmware, Server Bios and
Upgraded the broadcom GB drivers.

For the time being the backup server
isn't having slow backup performance since the updates. Yeah!

So i have some breathing room until
i can get a long outage window.

In the past, slow performance has shown
up after two weeks.

At anyrate, i still need to defrag the
drive.

Karl

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/13/2006
09:32:56 AM:

> Diskeeper may be worth a look, HOWEVER, I haev had MAJOR issues with
> this product trying to run after a backup as it appeared to clear

> the archive attribute.
>  
> Fragmentation is an issue, so where poss, try
to defrag when backups
> are not required or may JUST before a FULL Backup (that way keeps

> the archive bit !)
>  
> Good Luck
>  
>  
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> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Windows File Fragmentation

>  
> Yes, file fragmentation does cause backups to
perform slowly, 
> especially on drives housing databases or many small files.  
> However, we found here that the slowness caused by fragmentation was
> only 10% of our reason for slow backups and that 90% pertained to

> network configuration.  I guess what I'm getting at is that,
if you 
> mean the backup used to take 5 hours and now it takes 6, then likely
> fragmentation is an issue.  However, if your backup times are
20 
> hours and they should be five, then you've got bigger issues than

> running scandisk on your hard drives.
>  
>  
> -Jonathan
>  
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> 
> I have a database volume that is 95% fragmented. I'm getting poor

> performance on my backups. 
> 
> In your experience, has file fragmentation caused slow performance

> on Windows systems? 
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[Veritas-bu] Windows File Fragmentation

[Karl . Rossing]

I have a database volume that is 95%
fragmented. I'm getting poor performance on my backups.

In your experience, has file fragmentation
caused slow performance on Windows systems?

Thanks
Karl

Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.0 DSSU's

[Karl . Rossing]

I expired the image via the gui.

Thanks for setting me strait

Karl

RE: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.0 DSSU's

[Karl . Rossing]

"Steven Cashman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote on 01/04/2006 10:21:35 AM:

> Also be aware of how DSSUs operate. They will keep images that have

> been moved onto tape available on the disk until the disk starts 
> getting full. Then as NBU needs more space it will start removeing

> older images. DSSU drives are almost always near full
>  
> You should work to remove 2 DSSU pointing to
the same device for this reason. 

Yea i found that out. I just need to free up some
space until i'm able to partition the disk.

Which means i might have to rm anyway.

Karl