Re: [Veritas-bu] What's LiveUpdate like these days?

[Martin, Jonathan]

If your clients are Windows based, I would use psexec to remotely push an 
msiexec command. Msiexec includes switches to suppress the reboot if required. 
I don't have the software in front of me, but I now some versions included a 
"silentpatch.cmd" file you could use for this purpose.

-Jonathan

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Neil Conner
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 1:18 PM
To: Dean
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] What's LiveUpdate like these days?

Hi Dean,

If the master is running a Unix/Linux variant, the simplest and most reliable 
method to update Unix/Linux clients is to run the update_clients script.  Run 
it once to build a list of updateable clients, then edit that list as needed 
(you'll want to remove the master and media servers for instance), then run it 
again and supply the revised list of clients with the -ClientList   
flag.

For your number of clients, I would definitely try using LiveUpdate for the 
Windows clients.  I have a Linux master so I've never used it for Linux 
clients...

Things to be aware of:

1. Symantec Endpoint Protection (antivirus) software used to interfere when 
NetBackup client installations would try and update LiveUpdate configuration 
file.  The default action was to block it.  The workaround was to modify tamper 
protection settings on the SEP server (Change Settings -> Client Management -> 
Tamper Protection and change action to Logged). That may have been fixed in the 
12.1.5 release of SEP but I haven't tested it.

2. In former versions of NetBackup, the LiveUpdate web server was embedded in 
the LiveUpdate configuration file and you had to update that value in the 
LU_Install.bat file in the NetBackup installation package before running the 
initial client installation.  Now you can supply the LiveUpdate web server in 
the LiveUpdate policy attribute.

3. If a LiveUpdate policy runs successfully but the NetBackup version is not 
updated, the LiveUpdate registration may be corrupt, or SEP Tamper Protection 
blocked it during client installation.  To fix the LiveUpdate registration, run 
the LU_Install.bat file (with the updated LiveUpdate web server entry) manually 
on affected clients.

4. I only had success using a web server.  If the LiveUpdate web server is 
running IIS, you have to add the mime extension .flg type 
application/octet-stream to the web server properties and restart IIS.

5. You still have to build the list of clients in the LiveUpdate policy.

6. Make sure clients have at least 1GB free space in the system partition.  The 
LiveUpdate method has a much bigger footprint than running a regular client 
installation. 


The alternative to LiveUpdate for Windows clients is the remote install method. 
 I'd use a few Windows 2008 servers for the task and divide up the clients.  
Login with domain admin credentials, then run the NetBackup client installation 
as administrator and choose the option to install to multiple clients.  Here 
too, you have to build a client list file.  But for a small set of clients, I 
found this method to be a lot faster than LiveUpdate, and you don't have to 
worry about the bigger footprint.  The only problem I ran into is that the 
remote installation was blocked on some of my clients.  I was able to reproduce 
the problem by trying to run the installation on the affected clients directly 
from a UNC path (I think the problem has to do with Internet Explorer Enhanced 
Security Configuration), but the number is few enough that I just copy the 
installation files locally and then delete them when I'm finished.

Hope this helps!
Neil





On Feb 11, 2015, at 2:18 AM, Dean  wrote:

> Hello folks,
> 
> I've never used LiveUpdate, partly because I've never had to do a mass update 
> of many hosts, and partly because of some negative comments about it on this 
> mailing list.
> 
> But my current engagement is to update 800+ clients to NBU 7.6.1. All of the 
> clients that are in scope for me are already at NBU 7.x, which I believe 
> means they will already have the LiveUpdate agent component installed as part 
> of the base client.
> 
> The master and media servers will have been previously updated by someone 
> else before I start the client upgrades.
> 
> The clients are your standard mix of Windows, Linux and Solaris hosts.
> 
> So is it really as simple as the documentation makes it out to be? Or is it 
> still a pain to get working properly, as a few posts to this list mentioned a 
> few years ago.
> 
> Put another way, if you had 800+ clients to upgrade, would you use 
> LiveUpdate, push it out from the master/media servers, or do local installs??
> 
> Also, the NBU install guide says clients "may" need to be rebooted. How does 
> LiveUpdate handle this? Is it going to automatically reboot clients if it 
> deems it is necessa

[Veritas-bu] Deduplication with OST

[Martin, Jonathan]

All,

We are currently running 7.5 on Windows and looking to add deduplication 
appliances as a backup target. Ideally, we would purchase the DPOO (OST/AIR) 
license to keep track of the images as they write locally and then replicate to 
DR, but that may not be a possibility based on budgetary concerns. Without 
getting into the specifics of which deduplication appliances we are looking at, 
I can safely assume that we can use a DSU or DSSU to write to a local CIFS 
target (e.g. \\Prod-Appliance\Backup1 replicated behind the scenes to 
\\DR-Appliance\Backup1). I am looking at a scenario where we use VM replication 
to replicate the master/media servers from Prod to DR. When I bring up this 
master/media in DR, could I use a hostname/DNS alias to make \\Prod-Appliance 
redirect to \\DR-Appliance?

I realize that this is essentially a "poor man's OST/AIR", but this may be the 
path I have to go down due to budgetary constraints. Is anyone doing anything 
similar to this? In previous versions of Netbackup I could crack open the 
catalog files to modify the fragment locations (e.g. E:\Backup --> F:\Backup) 
but it looks like those pointers have all been moved (into the DB?)

Your ideas are appreciated,

-Jonathan
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Media ID not UNIQUE in DataBase (34)

[Martin, Jonathan]

 

The barcode and mediaID are entirely separate entities. Even though your
barcodes are different, NetBackup automatically generates the same
mediaID for both media (GJW998L4 and LXW998L4 both look like W998L4 to
NetBackup). I suggest you create a mediaID generation rule for 8
character barcodes with 1:2:3:4:5:6. This will create new mediaIDs for
the "LX" media, but still recognize the "GJ" media when you put it in
the library.

 

-Jonathan

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Simon
Weaver
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:12 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media ID not UNIQUE in DataBase (34)

 

All 

I really need some help or advice here, as I am struggling to understand
the issue.

 

We have no specific barcode rules setup, just using 

 

For 4 years, we have been running trouble free, ordering tapes and
labels.

This week, we received an error loading blank tapes.

 

NetBackup reports that the Media ID is not unique in the Database (34).

Checking the Barcode's they are different. The current one in the
library and known to NetBackup is W998L4 and the actual Barcode is
GJW998L4.

 

But the tapes I am trying to import into the library have the same Media
ID W998L4, yet the Barcode is LXW998L4.

 

The problem is, majority of the tapes in the library are W9xxL4 and the
pack of labels is the same!

 

Has anyone seen this before? I searched the Web, found some technotes,
but these tapes are brand new, never been in any other environment, and
the labels are also brand new unique.

 

Appreciate any helpful advise.

 

Simon

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiple finds in Netbackup

[Martin, Jonathan]

Use bplist. The syntax is a pain, but it works.

Here's a windows syntax example:

bplist -A -C server -PI -I -s 01/01/2000 00:00:00 -e 04/28/2009 00:00:00
"*53609A01_QPX5F_MJJ050005FA*"

-Jonathan

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of rosco
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:04 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Multiple finds in Netbackup

I want an alternative to using the gui screen in netbackup to find
files, I need to find multiple files acrros many momths

is there an auto way to find or populate the find field? as opposed to
populating the find field?

Thanks

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Changing the media ID of old tapes

[Martin, Jonathan]

 

You can delete the media from volume manager, change your barcode rules
to the old way, run an import, and change your barcode rules back. We
keep quite a bit of older media around here and I've had to do this more
than once.

 

-Jonathan

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of John
Keating
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 4:34 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Changing the media ID of old tapes

 

Hello,

 

I've been asked to restore some data from a time when we used a barcode
rule using the last 6 characters (E123L3) of the barcode and as it turns
out the tapes that NBU calls for the is not recognized due to media
manager inventorying the tapes under the new barcode rule (TSE123).

 

Is there a way to change the media ID's of the old tapes that were
written back in the day when our barcode rules were different?

 

Thanks in advance,

John

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Re: [Veritas-bu] migrating data from AIT4-5 to LTO5!!?? anysuggestions??

[Martin, Jonathan]

We did this with SDLT200 to LTO3. Connect both libraries to the same
media server, then bpduplicate the images. When you are done, promote
the LTO5 media to the primary copy and you are done.

-Jonathan

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
DiskJockey
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 1:33 PM
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] migrating data from AIT4-5 to LTO5!!??
anysuggestions??

Environment: NBU 7.1 Windows - Vault - Quantum VTL/I6K

We recently made a switch from Spectra AIT5 to Quantum LTO5 library. 
We have tapes offsite with 7+ years retention that we would like to
migrate onto the newer media technology LTO5

Can someone give me some pointers as to how to approach this? 
Using 3rd party is not an option due to budget.

High level steps? procedures? ideas? Things to look out for? how tos?
Having one of those moments...any suggestions or ideas would be much
appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backup problems

[Martin, Jonathan]

We ran into numerous issues with NDMP and volumes with millions of
files. Have you considered SnapMirror to tape for the volumes with the
millions of files? You lose the capability to restore individual files
and incremental backups, but backup/restore speed is ridiculously fast
and rock solid. We use snapshots to cover the day to day restores, and
restore the entire volume if someone needs older data. We spent years
testing NDMP on various filers, and this is the only way we've found to
solve the millions of files issue. If you want to test it out, just
throw set type = smtape into the top of your selection list and run a
full.

 

Good luck,

 

-Jonathan

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Baumann,
Kevin
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 10:34 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backup problems

 

All,

 

Linux OS, NetBackup 7.1.0.4, NDMP 

 

I am running into backup issues with NDMP (NetApp filer).  We have over
10 million files and several paths to backup.  What is happening is the
smaller paths backup fine but once the larger path starts and NetBackup
tries to get the file list it times out with error 99.  This also causes
the smaller paths to sometimes (not always, and not always the same
paths) to time out.  The error code is my favorite - error 99.

 

Our paths (some excluded, LONG list)

 

/vol/checkpoint

/vol/journal

/vol/home_dir

/vol/projects --- LARGE # of files

/vol/spec --- LARGE # of files

/vol/history

/vol/reports

 

I have tried breaking out the large paths and that seems to help as the
smaller paths have no issues.  But the large paths still timeout.  I
tried writing to both tape and disk but I still get error 99.  I also
have the NDMP_PROGRESS_TIMEOUT set to 24 hours (1440 minutes).

Anyone ever run into this?  Any help would be appreciated.

 

Thanks.

-Kevin

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Re: [Veritas-bu] bpdbjobs comand output formatting

[Martin, Jonathan]

Which switch are you using with bpdbjobs? When I run bpdbjobs with the
-all_columns switch on my Windows 2008 R2 Master running 7.1 I get UNIX
time.  Just a shot in the dark here, but have you checked your
localization settings in Windows? (Control Panel, Clock Language,
Region)?

 

-Jonathan

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Iverson,
Jerald
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:20 PM
To: veritas-bu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] bpdbjobs comand output formatting

 

i have a bpdbjobs comand line output formatting question, netbackup
7.1.0.3.

 

on a nt netbackup master server, i have column definitions set to output
the "started" column, and the output format shows up as dd/mm/
hh:mm:ss, ex:

16/07/2012 19:00:46

 

on a linux netbackup master server, the bpdbjobs command gives me
mm/dd/yy hh:mm:ss, ex:

07/16/12 21:00:38

 

is there any way to make them both behave the same?

 

thanks,

jerald

 

 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

[Martin, Jonathan]

We used a variation on this here. We stood up a new master, then waited
1 year for 99% of our images to expire. Then we imported the old media
(SLT) on the new master and duplicated them to new media (LTO). Just
keep in mind that when you do this, you need to make sure the retentions
match on the old and new masters. If retention 10 on your old master is
infinity and retention 10 on the new master is 1 year, the images will
only be kept for 1 year on import.

Good luck!

-Jonathan

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
Kalusche, Dan
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:18 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

I would think that keeping the current server would be an option for
you.
I would have done the same if we didn't have a multitude of images saved
to infinity...
Our old master would have been around forever, so I just did the
migration...
Good Luck! 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
srikanth09
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 10:05 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

Thank You all for your replies. I have to change the hostname and IP
address, there is no other option. We currently have installed the
master server on a production server. Its not a dedicated backup server.
The new server we are planning is a dedicated NBU master server. So the
hostname will change from the current server :-(

I think i would go with Jeff' idea of building new server from scratch
and importing media from old server to new server in case of restore
requests. 

Can we use the option of keeping current server and as well as new
server till the data on the current tapes expire?
Remove all the tapes from current server and keep it write protected.
Stop the NBU services on current server. Whenever a restore request
comes, stop the services on new server and restore data from old server.


Thanks
Sri

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle restore from backup with Data Guard nodes

[Martin, Jonathan]

 

Just a shot in the dark here, but we have similar issues with Oracle
RMAN in DR. When RMAN queries NetBackup for images, it sends the client
name, as configured in NetBackup. If you are running backups from
SERVERA and then trying to do a restore to SERVERB, you need to change
SERVERB's client name in NetBackup to SERVERA. I haven't done this in a
while,  but doing this in Windows used to require a reboot. (It won't
ask for a reboot, but RMAN won't work until you do.) I believe Linux
just requires the bp.conf be updated. I also throw the no.restrictions
touch file to make sure NetBackup isn't holding up the show.

 

-Jonathan

 

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Matthew
Opoka
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:48 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Oracle restore from backup with Data Guard nodes

 

I have an issue where 2 clients are backing up via RMAN to netbackup
through the oracle agent.  Client A is the parent with data guard and
Client B is the child or replica.  I'm told the clients share the same
control file in rman and Client A backs up some of the files and Client
B does as well.  When you do a restore from A or B it can't find the
files that the other client backed up.  Netbackup has been configured
such that each client can see the backups but RMAN is not correctly
telling netbackup which client to get the files from.  Any ideas?

 

Regards,

 

Matthew

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Advice / Experience - NetApp and NBU

[Martin, Jonathan]

You will need to license one or both of your NetApp controllers
depending on the model, which corresponds to "tier" of NetBackup
license. I believe our 2040s require a single tier-2 license, but our
3160s(?) require two tier-3 licenses. If I may, I suggest that you look
into snapmirror to tape and snapshots. Snapmirror to tape requires the
NDMP license for NetBackup, but does not require any additional licenses
on the NetApp.

 

Snapmirror to tape will allow you to backup your 8TB very quickly, but
it won't allow you to do individual file restores. To counter that, we
keep several weeks of snapshots available on the array. If a user needs
a file they can go into a hidden .snapshot folder and see the folder
structure as it existed at the time of snapshot. If they need any data
older than that, we have to restore the entire volume from tape. It's
not perfect, but we haven't had to restore a single volume here (other
than for testing) and our users get to go hunt for their own files to
"restore" (aka copy from snapshot) which it about as good as it gets for
me here.

 

Good luck!

 

-Jonathan

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Simon
Weaver
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 3:45 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Advice / Experience - NetApp and NBU

 

All

Going to 7.5 shortly, but there is talk about bringing in a "NetApp"
device, where it will replace our standard file Server.

 

Not fully familiar with NetApp and how it talks to NetBackup, I wanted
to find out from any real world experience how it is used and backed up.

 

For example, if it holds 8TB of Data, do I need a License for NBU for
NDMP and use a wizard to configure?

How do you backup your NetApp devices? Any pros or cons to the setup?

 

Its advice I am after, so to get real world experience is better to
fully understand how it works. I got the NBU NDMP Papers here, and the
NetApp papers, but there is just too much to go through, and I basically
want to get an idea on how good Netapp is, how quick it can backup and
more important, recovery?

 

I saw an online Demo of some sort of NetApp Snapshot feature, where some
text files were created, a VSS Snapshot copy was made, the files deleted
and then recovered. But 1kb files is EASY to recover, but wondering how
you recover 8TB !! :-)

 

Thank you for any advice

 

Yours

Simon

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Setting up Windows Media Server

[Martin, Jonathan]

We have 4 x HP LTO3 drives in two masters attached to old Quantum PX502
libraries and we use different drivers for both. On Windows 2003 we use
HP driver 1.0.4.0 and in Windows 2008 we use Microsoft driver
6.0.6001.18000

 

Here is a screenshot (Windows 2008) of the two drives:

 

 

 

-Jonathan

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
Lightner, Jeff
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:11 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Setting up Windows Media Server

 

I had already done the masking in the library.   As noted earlier
SANSurfer is seeing the drives under the controllers.   The library also
shows the host HBAs as "online" where I mapped them.

 

Multiple people mentioned the drivers no longer being provided by
NetBackup to me but on going to Quantum's site it suggests that the
driver is supplied by Symantec for both BackupExec and NetBackup.  It
also unfortunately makes you contact support for i6000 driver updates so
I've opened a case with Quantum for that.

 

In Windows Device Manager I see LTO3 twice which is odd to me as there
is only 1 LTO3 in one partition that I would typically see as
"standalone" on my other servers.  There is another LTO3 in the other
partition but also 10 LTO5s - I'd expect it not show me the 2nd LTO3 if
it isn't also showing me the LTO5s for the other partition so I'm not
sure if this is a duplicate entry for the 1 drive or not.

 

Driver Details for both LTO3s shown in Windows Device Manager is:

C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERs\ltotape.sys  MS version 6.1.7600.16385
(win7_rtm.090713-1255)

 

So for those of use using libraries does the Windows Device Manager show
all the attached drives as "tape drives" in the listing for just "tape
drivers"?

Do you see anything under the storage controllers other than the HBAs?
(All I'm seeing are the HBAs.)

 

The drives are made by HP - one person suggested I needed HP drivers.
Is this something I'd need to get from HP even though in a Quantum
library?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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tsimerson

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:29 AM

To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU

Subject: [Veritas-bu] Setting up Windows Media Server

 

The key thing is to get the Windows system to see the drives first.
Symantec stopped shipping device drivers for Windows several versions
ago and is relying upon the underlying operating system to properly
configure the drives.  Quantum should have on their web site some
Windows drivers for the library and the tape drives.

 

On the i6000, there is some advanced masking you have to do for the
drives to be properly seen by the media server.  You might have to work
with Quantum to get this done.  Quantum will need the WWN's of the FC
adapters in you media server to accomplish this.

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Flashbackup for Linux - Guidance or advice?

[Martin, Jonathan]

I have a similar situation here and I tested flashbackup for Linux last
in 2010. I don't mean to dissuade you, but in my test a volume that was
running 30MB/sec with the standard client actually ran 28MB/sec with
flashbackup. If you get any better results I would love to hear about
it. I tested on 6.5.6.

 

The "Advanced Client" you need is in the "UnixOptions" package. This is
a separate package you have to download from Symantec that has many of
the advanced features for Linux, including flashbackup. As far as I am
aware, this is just 6.5 / there is no patch for it. You install it after
the linux client.

 

The real secret of Linux flashbackup, is that the snapshot capability
comes from the Veritax Filesystem (VxFS) not NetBackup. So you will have
to create a VxFS volume and configure snapshots properly to get this to
work. To do this you will need to get a copy of Symantec's Storage
Foundation for Linux. (I got a trial copy from my Symantec rep.)

 

Unfortunately, my notes are sparse. But you are welcome to them (below.)
You will see the last note on 8/21 was the 28MB/sec. At this point the
group with the millions of tiny files decided to purchase a NetApp and
use the SnapMirror to Tape capability for backups. (Works very well.) I
think I could have had better than 28MB/sec, but it requires an indepth
knowledge of VxFS. 

 

-Jonathan

 

5/26 - Created VxVM volume and VxFS file system.  Mapped to /export

 

Install dell MD3000 multipath driver

 

Rescan for new disks: mppBusRescan

parted /dev/sdb
mklabel gpt

 

http://eval.veritas.com/downloads/van/vm_quickref.pdf

 

/opt/VRTS/bin/vxdiskadm

 

[root@pbnas01 bin]# vxassist -g dg1 maxsize

Maximum volume size: 3984535552 (1945574Mb)

[root@pbnas01 bin]# vxassist -b -g dg1 make vol2 3984535552

 

vxassist -b -g dg1 make vol1 100g 3PARDATA0_1

 

vxdisk -o alldgs list

disk should be online invalid

/etc/vx/bin/vxdisksetup -i sdb format=simple

vxdg -g dg1  adddisk diskname=/dev/sdd

Add to diskgroup dg1 (disk group 1)

mkfs -t vxfs -o bsize=8192,logsize=32768 /dev/vx/rdsk/dg1/vol1

(May need to use /dev/vx/dsk/dg1/vol1 instead of rdsk)

mount -t vxfs /dev/vx/dsk/dg1/vol1 /export

 

5/27 - ran flashbackup.  <1MB for 1 hour, then ~25MB/sec.  Slower than
30MB/sec standard run

5/28 - creating .tar file to test total speed

6/1 - contacted Tyler Rothchild for assistance, Test backup sequential
700GB .tar file. ~67MB/sec

6/2 - Case 412-321-125 opened with NetBackup support

 

Pending: Upgrade NetBackup to 6.5.6

 

Dave Hamacher

(407) 739-2970

david_hamac...@symantec.com

 

 

NBU 6.5 client Upgrade Issue

 

To resolve this issue, please create a file called "version" under
/usr/openv/netbackup.  The content of this file will be the following:

 

HARDWARE LINUX_RH_X86 
VERSION NetBackup 6.5 
RELEASEDATE Sat May 31 10:25:31 CDT 2008 
BUILDNUMBER 20080522c

 

/dev/vx/dsk/dg1/vol1

/dev/vx/rdsk/dg1/vol1

/dev/sdc1

 

8/19 - begin new round of testing.

Test 1

Snapshot: Vxfs_snapshot

Cache: /dev/sdc1

Selection: /dev/vx/dsk/dg1/vol1

Result: Ran for 10 min @ 454KB/sec

 

Test 2

Snapshot: disabled

Selection: /dev/vx/dmp/sdb1

Result: failed - invalid command parameter(20)

 

Test 3

Snapshot: Vxfs_snapshot

Cache: /dev/sdc1

Selection: /dev/vx/rdsk/dg2/vol1

Result: 296768000 in 3:19:45

 

Created /export2 (2TB), Copying /export1 to /export2. 

 

8/20 - copy complete

Test 4

Snapshot: Vxfs_snapshot

Cache: /dev/sdc1

Selection: /dev/vx/rdsk/dg2/vol1, /dev/vx/rdsk/dg2/vol2

Result: 

 

8/20/2010 9:03:57 AM - begin Create Snapshot

8/20/2010 9:04:04 AM - snapshot backup of client pbnas01 using method
VxFS_Snapshot

8/20/2010 9:04:04 AM - Critical bpbrm(pid=8808) from client pbnas01: FTL
- snapshot creation failed, status 156   

8/20/2010 9:04:04 AM - Warning bpbrm(pid=8808) from client pbnas01: WRN
- /dev/vx/rdsk/dg1/vol1 is not frozen

8/20/2010 9:04:04 AM - Warning bpbrm(pid=8808) from client pbnas01: WRN
- /dev/vx/rdsk/dg1/vol2 is not frozen

8/20/2010 9:04:04 AM - end Create Snapshot; elapsed time: 00:00:07

8/20/2010 9:04:09 AM - end writing

Status 156

 

Test 4

Snapshot: Vxfs_snapshot

Cache: /dev/sdc

Selection: /dev/vx/rdsk/dg2/vol1, /dev/vx/rdsk/dg2/vol2 (2 streams)

Result: 1:40 - <3MB/sec

 

Test 5

Snapshot: Vxfs_snapshot

Cache: /dev/vx/rdsk/dg1/vol3 (formerly /dev/sdc, formatted w/ vxfs in
vxvm)

Selection: /dev/vx/rdsk/dg2/vol1, /dev/vx/rdsk/dg2/vol2 (2 streams)

Result:  1:25 <3MB/sec

 

Test 6

Snapshot: Vxfs_snapshot

Cache: /dev/vx/rdsk/dg1/vol3 

Selection: /dev/vx/rdsk/dg2/vol1

Result:  258652672KB in 3:12

 

Test 7 (to tape)

Snapshot: Vxfs_snapshot

Cache: /dev/vx/rdsk/dg1/vol3 

Selection: /dev/vx/rdsk/dg2/vol1

Result:  

 

10/18 - Opened case w/ Datalink

 

10/21 - Testing for baseline

Snapshot: Vxfs_snapshot

Cache: /dev/vx/rdsk/dg1/vol3 

Selection: /dev/vx/rdsk/dg1/vol1

Result:  18156000 files / 2560548160KB in 24:40:20 ~28MB/sec

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 71, Issue 11

[Martin, Jonathan]

Just to clarify, this is our second Windows 2003 x86 to Windows 2008 x64
NBU 6.5.6 upgrade via cold catalog backup. We preformed our first last
December in the same manner with much success. There is a possibility
that the cold backup was bad, and we'd like to test a hot catalog backup
as well. Unfortunately we're bound by significant  time and hardware
constraints, so troubleshooting the cold catalog backup we have is less
painful than getting a 2nd outage for another cold catalog or finding an
LTO drive to test with.

 

-Jonathan

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Steve
Quan
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:54 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 71, Issue 11

 

What seems to "stick out", is the target OS is 64bit (vs the original
32bit OS)  and the problem only shows up after a "good" catalog
restore 

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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:38:58 -0400
> From: "Infantino, Joe (Contractor)" 
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] cold catalog recovery
> To: 
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> We are trying to upgrade our NBU hardware and OS and are running into
> some issues that seem related to doing a cold catalog recovery and
name
> resolution.
> 
> Current setup:
> Windows 2003 x86 SP2
> NBU 6.5.6
> 
> New setup:
> Windows 2008 x64 SP2
> NBU 6.5.6
> 
> Current server and new server are configured with the same name and ip
> address.
> 
> ISSUE:
> We can do a cold catalog backup and restore just fine but have a
serious
> issue in the end. After both successes if we open the Activity Monitor
> we get an error - "Not connected, check if services are up."
> 
> All service are up.
> 
> bpjobsd log shows
> 
> <2> job_connect: Can't connect automatically to client pbcobk01 status
=
> 25 err = 10061
> <2> job_connect: Can't connect to client pbcobk01
> <16> main: Can't connect to pbcobk01 (46)
> 
> We did a complete system rebuild, installed NBU 6.5.6, and configured
to
> write to disk. Test backup ran and Activity Monitor worked fine. Did
> the catalog recovery and the issue came back.
> 
> I did some bpclntcmd tests and they all come back with the correct
name
> but the IP shows as 127.0.0.1. I added the hostname and real IP to the
> hosts file with no luck.
> 
> I tried the following tests:
> bpclntcmd -pn = correct short name with 127.0.0.1
> bpclntcmd -self = correct short name with 127.0.0.1
> bpclntcmd -hn pbcobk01 = correct short name with 127.0.0.1
> bpclntcmd -ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx = correct host and xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx for
ip
> address
> 
> If I do these test on the current server they come back with the
actual
> IP of the system. 
> 
> TIA
> 
> Joe Infantino
> MCP, MCSA, Security+, ITILv3
> Senior Systems Analyst
> Security and Server Operations
> Intersil Corporation
> 
> email: jinfant...@intersil.com
> 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] vmchange script

[Martin, Jonathan]

Try findstr /v on Windows for the second example. I’m not sure what “^$” 
evaluates to, but this should help.

 

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb490907.aspx

 

-Jonathan

 

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of 
netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.uk
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:26 AM
To: veritas-bu; dream...@gmail.com; Anurag Sharma
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] vmchange script

 

Hi, 

  

Windows: 

  

type  | find ":" 

  

*NIX 

grep ":"  

or 

grep -v "^$"  

  

I can't find the windows equivalent of the last command, if there is one. 

  

Regards, 

  

Patrick 

  


On 20 February 2012 at 10:38 Anurag Sharma  wrote: 

> 
> 
> Thank you Leo, 
> 
> Could please tell me how can get a : seprated output if I already have a list 
> of media to be expired in another text file in a tabular format ? 
> 
> What I'm asking is this - I want a command which converts 
> 
> 
>  
>  
>   :MO0174 
>  
>  
>   :MO0928 
>  
>  
>   :MO0486 
>  
>  
>   :MO0074 
>  
>  
>   :MO0718 
>  
>  
>   :MO0355 
>  
>  
>   :MO0789 
>  
> 
> to this 
>   :MO0174 
>   :MO0928 
>   :MO0486 
>   :MO0074 
>   :MO0718 
>   :MO0355 
>   :MO0789 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:30:07 +0800 
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] vmchange script 
> From: dream...@gmail.com 
> To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
> CC: sharma.anu...@hotmail.com 
> 
> Hi 
> 
> Last time i use this to generate a file with colon separated media labels: 
> 
> @bpimagelist -A -media -idonly -hoursago 24 | find "MO" | tr \r\n ":" | sed 
> -e s/::/:/g -e s/:$//g > %MEDIA_FILE% 
> 
> 
> Hope it help. 
> 
> Leo 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Justin Piszcz  
> wrote: 
> 
> Hi, 
>  That would be just the media label— one command per TAPE. 
>  vmchange .. etc etc .. –ml TAPE01 
> vmchange .. etc etc .. –ml TAPE02vmchange .. etc etc .. –ml TAPE03 
>  Justin. 
>  
> From: Anurag Sharma [mailto:sharma.anu...@hotmail.com] 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:59 AM 
> To: jpis...@lucidpixels.com; veritas-bu 
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] vmchange script 
>  
> 
> Justin, 
> 
> $Tape 
> 
> 
> What would that file contain 
> 
> just the media labels 
> 
> or 
> 
> media labels which are colon seperated. if yes kind send how this script 
> would look in windows nbu 
> 
> 
> 
> From: jpis...@lucidpixels.com 
> To: sharma.anu...@hotmail.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
> 
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] vmchange script 
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:27:39 -0500Hi, 
>  
> There is a better way. 
> There is an undocumented option called –single_cycle. 
> This will put the tapes in the cap one by one and not prompt you to remove 
> them. 
> The best of both worlds J 
>  
> Example Syntax: 
> /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/vmchange -h "$MASTER_SERVER" -rh "$ROBOT_CTRL_HOST" -rn 
> "$ROBOT_NUM" -rt "$ROBOT_TYPE" -multi_eject -map any -res -ml "$TAPE" 
> -verbose -single_cycle 
>  
> Justin. 
>  
> From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Anurag Sharma 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:40 AM 
> To: veritas-bu 
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] vmchange script 
> Hi Team, 
> 
> Here's is my challenge. 
> 
> Every week I have to change tapes in two libraries one has a cap size of 25 
> and another has of 35. 
> 
> 
> Now I get a list of tapes to be ejected and sent offsite via script the real 
> challenge is ejecting them. 
> 
> I can use the vmchange command in two separate consoles 
> 
> Syntax : vmchange -res -multi_eject -w -rn 0 -rt tld -rh 
> pnors950.mgroupnet.com -ml  
> 
> 
> Example :vmchange -res -multi_eject -w -rn 0 -rt tld -rh server.xyz.com -ml 
> MO0371:MO0012:MO0454:MO0775:MO0017 
> 
> 
> I want to create a script which automates this one of the sample script is 
> 
> 
> FOR /F %%i IN (E:\\setin.txt) DO E:\VERITAS\Volmgr\bin\vmchange -res 
> -multi_eject -w -rn 3 -rt tld -rh pnors954.mgroupnet.com -ml 
> %%i>>E:\\ejectoutput.txt 
> 
> 
> The above script uses a file setin.txt which would have list of labels with 
> colon separated 
> 
> MO0371:MO0012:MO0454:MO0775:MO0017 
> 
> The only challenge is this I want the script to take input of labels as file 
> and do not want manually colon separate them manually. 
> 
> 
> 
> Please provide suggestions. 
> 
> Anurag 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.1.0.3

[Martin, Jonathan]

Only speaking for myself here, but we're looking at vSphere 5 for VMs
with > 8 vCPUS (cores.) 

 

I believe someone from Symantec posted here a few weeks ago that vSphere
5 was supported with the same functionality as vSphere 4 but that new
functionality required 7.1.0.3. Do you know what this new functionality
is (if any?) I could be mistaken.

 

-J

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of . .
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 12:16 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.1.0.3

 

Anyone else being pressured to upgrade to 7.1.0.3 to support vSphere5 or
Exchange 2010 SP2? I tried looking through the release notes, but I
can't find exactly what 7.1.0.3 won't support. I'm pretty sure I read
somewhere it was clustered datastores and the new filesystem. Is there a
restriction with hardware level 8?

I'm not sure why our VMware folks are itching to upgrade, since the only
new filesystem advantage I see is datastores > that 2 TB?

I would be nice if we can have a list of what works and what doesn't
with regards to vSphere 5 and the 7.1.0.3 release.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] VMware5 and NetBackup 7.0

[Martin, Jonathan]

Just for clarification, what new features does vSphere 5 have in the
data protection realm? vSphere 4 introduced changed block tracking (CBT)
which revolutionized incremental backup. What does 5 have to offer? Not
that I'm bashing Veeam, I think they make a fine product. I'm just
wondering what feature is worth installing an alternate backup product?

-Jonathan


-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
Simon (external)
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:48 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VMware5 and NetBackup 7.0

Ok thanks, but thats the problem  the VM upgrade wont wait, which
means Symantec lose out.
I really am amazed they are not ready for it, after all if Veeam are
ready, who seem to be an alternative to NBU, why are Symantec not ready?

Its a real shame! 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of fozz
Sent: 06 December 2011 13:34
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] VMware5 and NetBackup 7.0

Support for ESX 5 will be available in 7.1.0.3.  This support will be
parity support, meaning that the features supported in ESX 4 will be
supported, none of the new features introduced in ESX 5 will be
supported, those should be in 7.5.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Citrix Backups and restores

[Martin, Jonathan]

UEFI does create a small "boot partition" that NetBackup has issues
backing up. There was some discussion here some time ago about those
limitations. Run "chkdsk d:" on the citrix host and see what you get. If
the file system type is NTFS then you two are on different pages.

-Jonathan

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of dejohn61
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 6:40 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Citrix Backups and restores

NBU Enterprise 7.1.01
Windows 2003 enterprise (master)
6 Media servers mixed Unix, Linux, and windows
Netapp VTL and (Quantum Scalar i2000 physical tape)
I am having trouble restoring data from the D:\ drive of a Citrix
server. the C:\ drive restores just fine.
I can see the data in the restore console so I know its there.
Symantec support is telling me that the D:\ on the Citrix box is EFI
format not NTFS and not compatible in NBU backups and restores. Is this
a true statement? and what are my alternatives to backing up and
restoring this data.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] vmware api backups

[Martin, Jonathan]

I think the "enable changed block tracking" may refer to upgrading your
VMs from virtual hardware version 4 to 7 to take advantage of CBT on
vSphere 4. This may be a concern for environments migrating from 3.x.

-Jonathan

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From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of George
Winter
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 3:28 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] vmware api backups

Hello.  Just a couple of clarifications

>>  you need to enable change block tracking on each vm

[G]:  NetBackup automatically enables Changed Block Tracking when the
"Block Level Incremental Backup" checkbox is selected on the policy.
This is done for every VM that is defined in this policy.  No need to
manually enable this on every VM.

>>  change backups using time stamps instead of archive bits

[G]:  This is only required on the Windows VMware Backup Host(s).  This
attribute does not need to be set for every VM being protected.

>>  making the UUID based quiescing for windows 2008 servers (theres a
symantec article on this).

[G]: Not sure what this is referring to.

Hope this helps!

-George Winter
Symantec Corporation

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of X_S
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:23 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] vmware api backups

Hi Howard, i just did some testing recently too using the network
(instead of SAN).  it was fairly easy to set up once the correct
permissions were set in vCenter.  Our esx hosts are connected with 10GB
and the vm guests are at 1GB, so the backups using the API was much
faster.  i was able to restore full vmdks from the backup and found that
the nb client is required if you want to restore files back to the
original vm guest.  our paint point is the config requirements to get
this done to each vm guest.  for example, you need to enable change
block tracking on each vm, change backups using time stamps instead of
archive bits, and making the UUID based quiescing for windows 2008
servers (theres a symantec article on this).

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Re: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow

[Martin, Jonathan]

What is the underlying disk structure (Raid, # spindles, type of disk) of the 
lun that holds the Exchange databases? What is the disk latency before, during, 
and after the backup? If your latency is high before the backup starts, then 
it’s going to be terrible during the backup and lead to poor performance.

 

-Jonathan

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Marsee
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow

 

Hi Len,

Using exchange 2010 on windows 2008 R2 with 1 active dag and 1 passive dag. 
Currently backing up the active dag to a CIFS share on the Backupexec server 
which is mounted from an EMC Data Domain appliance (Deduplicated disk array). 
Exchange servers are virtualized with VMware vsphere 4.1. Performance is dog 
slow for these backups.


Thank You, 
Brian Marsee 
Relational Technology Solutions 
(734)748-4499 - Mobile



From: Len Boyle 
To: Brian Marsee; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
Sent: Sun Oct 23 15:26:58 2011
Subject: RE: BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow 

Hello Brian, 

 

It depends. Which exchange server are you using.

Are you writing to a backup folder or to  a virtual tape drive

 

This may not be the only or the best method.

 

If to a backup to disk folder and you have multiple daq’s or storage groups 
then you can put them in different jobs.

If you allow multiple jobs to write to the backup to disk folder then you can 
have multiple jobs running at the same time.

 

len

 

 

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Marsee
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:22 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow

 

 

Hello All,

 

Currently running backexec 2010 R2 and the backups are writing to Data Domain.  
The job rate and performance is extremely slow and backups for a 1TB exchange 
server are running extremely long (20+ hours)!  I can see from the data domain 
auto support that backupexec is only pushing a single backup stream.  Is there 
a way to increase the number of backup streams in backupexec to get better 
performance?  I have ensured that the speed and duplex settings on all servers, 
switches, and data domain are hard coded to 1gb full duplex.  Is there 
something else that could be related to the very slow performance?  

 

Thank You,

Brian

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Re: [Veritas-bu] FlashBacup - Restore Question

[Martin, Jonathan]

The “stream” options are the same on a Flashbackup policy as they are on any 
other.

 

Policy > Allow Multiple Data Streams – creates one backup job per item in the 
file selection list

Media Manager Storage Unit > Multiplexing / streams per drive – number of jobs 
that can write to a tape simultaneously

 

I don’t multiplex because I write to disk. I use the multiple data streams 
option to break the backup into multiple jobs. That way, if the e: fails (for 
example) the job continues with f:, g: etc… I also limit the number of jobs per 
policy to 1, so the e:, f:, g: etc… do not run at the same time. I limit the 
jobs because e:, f: and g: may be on the same raid group, in which case they 
share the same disk performance.

 

-Jonathan

 

From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:36 AM
To: Martin, Jonathan; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] FlashBacup - Restore Question

 

Hi jonathan

I would like some real world advice on this then. Because if I understand 
correctly, although I have 4 volumes to backup as FlashBackup-Windows, I dont 
see any options to do "Streams". 

 

So do you have Servers that have multiple volumes? Do you create seperate 
policies, or just group them together and maybe Multiplex them?

 



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 8:39 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] FlashBacup - Restore Question

My testing with FlashBackup here has generally resulted in faster volume 
restores than volume backups. This is dependent on many factors, including the 
activity of the disk / raid group during backup / restore. Generally speaking, 
my raid-5 arrays write data much faster than they read it. Assuming your disk 
reads and writes at the same speed (unlikely) restores will take just as long 
as backups, because you are writing out the bits in the same order you backed 
them up. You may want to review the documentation on FlashBackup, as restoring 
the entire volume is not the same as restoring “all the files.”

 

-Jonathan

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon 
(external)
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:55 PM
To: smpt; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] FlashBacup - Restore Question

 

Hi Stefanos

Thanks  but in a DR scenario... where you would have to restore all the 
Data, would FlashBackup-Windows be quick?

Simon

 



From: smpt [mailto:sm...@peppas.gr] 
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 5:07 PM
To: WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] FlashBacup - Restore Question

Hello Simon.

I can answer you only to the first question.

Unfortunately the file restore of a single file can take as long as a full 
restore, as netbackup has to read the backup to find the file. If the file is 
in the beginning of the backup, then it is fast, else….

 

For the 3ed, you can always create multiple policies.

 

stefanos

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon 
(external)
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 5:35 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] FlashBacup - Restore Question

 

Hi, 
I am evaluating FlashBackup-Windows. I am backing up a 1.8TB Volume, with 
millions of 1kb files and via SAN, its taking 3 days.

During a quck FB-Windows Test Policy, I got this down to 7 hours. However, 2 
questions:- 

1) Not been able to test, but is there a downside to restore times for this 
type of volume 
2) I read a Technote, that when restoring FB-Windows, certain files dont get 
restored, like Outlook .pst files. Now, I cannot find the Technote, but I 
wondered if that was fixed in 7.0.1

3) The Server has 5 volumes, but it does not look like you can "stream" jobs. 
Does anyone have a policy where it contains multiple volumes for a single 
client. And can you improve the performance? I could Multiplex I guess.

Thanks 

Regards 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] FlashBacup - Restore Question

[Martin, Jonathan]

My testing with FlashBackup here has generally resulted in faster volume
restores than volume backups. This is dependent on many factors,
including the activity of the disk / raid group during backup / restore.
Generally speaking, my raid-5 arrays write data much faster than they
read it. Assuming your disk reads and writes at the same speed
(unlikely) restores will take just as long as backups, because you are
writing out the bits in the same order you backed them up. You may want
to review the documentation on FlashBackup, as restoring the entire
volume is not the same as restoring "all the files."

 

-Jonathan

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
Simon (external)
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:55 PM
To: smpt; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] FlashBacup - Restore Question

 

Hi Stefanos

Thanks  but in a DR scenario... where you would have to restore all
the Data, would FlashBackup-Windows be quick?

Simon

 



From: smpt [mailto:sm...@peppas.gr] 
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 5:07 PM
To: WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] FlashBacup - Restore Question

Hello Simon.

I can answer you only to the first question.

Unfortunately the file restore of a single file can take as long as a
full restore, as netbackup has to read the backup to find the file. If
the file is in the beginning of the backup, then it is fast, else

 

For the 3ed, you can always create multiple policies.

 

stefanos

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
Simon (external)
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 5:35 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] FlashBacup - Restore Question

 

Hi, 
I am evaluating FlashBackup-Windows. I am backing up a 1.8TB Volume,
with millions of 1kb files and via SAN, its taking 3 days.

During a quck FB-Windows Test Policy, I got this down to 7 hours.
However, 2 questions:- 

1) Not been able to test, but is there a downside to restore times for
this type of volume 
2) I read a Technote, that when restoring FB-Windows, certain files dont
get restored, like Outlook .pst files. Now, I cannot find the Technote,
but I wondered if that was fixed in 7.0.1

3) The Server has 5 volumes, but it does not look like you can "stream"
jobs. Does anyone have a policy where it contains multiple volumes for a
single client. And can you improve the performance? I could Multiplex I
guess.

Thanks 

Regards 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Question on DB online backups (Wayne T Smith)

[Martin, Jonathan]

Wow... sounds like accountability is in short supply. I work in I.T., it
is not my job to tell management how to do theirs. If I was an
electrician, and I told management they shouldn't plug more than 30A
into a 30A outlet, and they did it anyway and then the breaker tripped,
it wouldn't be my fault. And if they somehow caught the building on
fire, I would still sleep well at night.

I like to think I work together with management to analyze complex
scenarios, explain them in simple terms, recommend paths for
improvement, and let management decide what to do. Granted, every work
environment is different. But if I had to save copies of CYA emails so I
didn't lose my job over poor management decisions, that would be my
"resume generating event."

-Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: Lightner, Jeff [mailto:jlight...@water.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:47 AM
To: Martin, Jonathan; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Question on DB online backups (Wayne T Smith)

Often enough "marginally important" becomes "critically important" only
after it fails.  Usually that is when the admin faces the firing squad
because management is never going to admit THEY didn't see it as
important before the failure.

If it is important enough to backup then it is important enough to test
the restore.   Telling folks later that it didn't seem important to you
is NOT going to be the correct answer especially if they instructed you
to do the backup in the first place.

The best you can do is to write an email to your management explaining
the issues and keep a copy of it (and better yet any response) for CYA.
Even then it doesn't always help.  In one environment we repeatedly told
management about lack of backup being an issue and they repeatedly let
us know that they didn't see it as an issue.   When it finally failed
the response we got back from on high was "You weren't forceful enough
in saying it was important."





-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin,
Jonathan
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:33 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Question on DB online backups (Wayne T Smith)

While I agree that someone could face the firing squad if a certain
database backed critical application failed and there was no restore
capability, this may not be *that* application. Let's face it, if this
application isn't critical enough to bring in a DBA, even as a
contractor, and they didn't pay for implementation services with
backups, then this application may just be marginally important.

I would come up with and test some sort of restore scenario and set your
management's expectations. That scenario does not need to be 24x7
snapshot based point in time restore with tape backup to provide
recovery. Perhaps you take down the DB once a week to do a full, and the
expectation is that  if the database goes down you can lose up to a
weeks' worth of data. Perhaps you supplement with snapshots, or database
exports. Either way, Wayne's write-up is a great place to start.

-Jonathan

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From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of David
McMullin
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:57 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Cc: wtsm...@maine.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Question on DB online backups (Wayne T Smith)

Wayne - You are looking at this from the wrong perspective.

You need to be concerned about RESTORING your data.
It does not matter how 'successful' your backups are if you cannot
restore the data.

IMHO you really need to get a DBA or 'someone' to sign off on your
backup procedure, as well as test your restore, otherwise you are
setting yourself up for a "resume generating event"...



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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:45:35 -0400
From: Wayne T Smith 
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Question on DB online backups
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Message-ID:


Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Ouch, having an Oracle database without a DBA is like having NetBackup
without anyone that knows NetBackup.

There are several ways to do backups of Oracle databases.  These include

   - Cold, full.  You take down the database and backup all associated
disk
   space (data, redolog, and perhaps other types).
   - Cold backups do not require Oracle archivelog mode.
  - Restoration requires database down or restore to essentially
  identical setup on a like machine.
  - Restoration is to back to the time of your backup.
  - Note for all backup types: Your file system backups will exclude
  Oracle managed, as a file system backup of an online Oracle
database is
 

Re: [Veritas-bu] Question on DB online backups (Wayne T Smith)

[Martin, Jonathan]

While I agree that someone could face the firing squad if a certain
database backed critical application failed and there was no restore
capability, this may not be *that* application. Let's face it, if this
application isn't critical enough to bring in a DBA, even as a
contractor, and they didn't pay for implementation services with
backups, then this application may just be marginally important.

I would come up with and test some sort of restore scenario and set your
management's expectations. That scenario does not need to be 24x7
snapshot based point in time restore with tape backup to provide
recovery. Perhaps you take down the DB once a week to do a full, and the
expectation is that  if the database goes down you can lose up to a
weeks' worth of data. Perhaps you supplement with snapshots, or database
exports. Either way, Wayne's write-up is a great place to start.

-Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of David
McMullin
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:57 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Cc: wtsm...@maine.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Question on DB online backups (Wayne T Smith)

Wayne - You are looking at this from the wrong perspective.

You need to be concerned about RESTORING your data.
It does not matter how 'successful' your backups are if you cannot
restore the data.

IMHO you really need to get a DBA or 'someone' to sign off on your
backup procedure, as well as test your restore, otherwise you are
setting yourself up for a "resume generating event"...



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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:45:35 -0400
From: Wayne T Smith 
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Question on DB online backups
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Message-ID:


Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Ouch, having an Oracle database without a DBA is like having NetBackup
without anyone that knows NetBackup.

There are several ways to do backups of Oracle databases.  These include

   - Cold, full.  You take down the database and backup all associated
disk
   space (data, redolog, and perhaps other types).
   - Cold backups do not require Oracle archivelog mode.
  - Restoration requires database down or restore to essentially
  identical setup on a like machine.
  - Restoration is to back to the time of your backup.
  - Note for all backup types: Your file system backups will exclude
  Oracle managed, as a file system backup of an online Oracle
database is
  insufficient for recovery.  Your file system backup should include
the
  Oracle software home and certain other objects (control files,
inventory,
  oraInst.loc, etc) ... not sure where these are on Windows.
   - Cold, RMAN level 0 and 1.   You write a script that brings the
database
   down, use RMAN to back it up, then start the database again.
   - Note for all RMAN backup types: RMAN is simply the Oracle utility
to do
  backup and restore.
  - Whereas the above backups were simply of file system disk spaces
 while the database is down (perhaps using NetBackup or a disk
copy utility),
 RMAN decides what data to copy, where to put it and keeps
track where it has
 put the backup files.
 - RMAN writes its backups to disk or tape. While it is possible
to
 have RMAN write to disk and then have NetBackup backup the
file system data,
 this is awkward and restoration goes from a simple, automatic
process to a
 time-consuming very difficult process if NetBackup has the
data.
 - The Netbackup solution is to purchase a license that includes
the
 Oracle Agent.  This is a shim that gets installed in the
Oracle software
 home.  RMAN thinks it is backing up to tape (device type
"sbt_tape"), but
 the shim captures the RMAN data and sends it on to your
backup server.  It
 doesn't matter if your backup server uses disk or tape ...
everything back
 at the backup server is transparent to RMAN ... just like
NetBackup file
 system backups.
 - Just like file system cold backups, you need to verify and
 practice various restore scenarios.  RMAN gives you a much
better chance to
 do the restore you need (and have the necessary backup
objects available).
 - RMAN keeps track of the stuff it backs up.  It has two
methods.
 RMAN will put information about its backups in the Oracle
database control
 files.  RMAN also has a "catalog" feature, which means its
backup
 information is stored in a database someplace.  If you use
the RMAN catalog,
 your restore scenarios are substantially enhanced.  Using an
RMAN catalog is
 NOT required by RMAN nor the Oracle Agent.
 - RMAN has its own retention schemes.  Now you have 2
retentions to
 worry about ... if either the RMAN retention or the NetBackup
retention
  

Re: [Veritas-bu] Question on DB online backups

[Martin, Jonathan]

You might want to call your local "Suits-R-Us" and buy a few hours with
an Oracle DBA. I can give you our script which is based on the "goodies"
script, but you really need a DBA. The database needs to be in archive
log mode, and you have to configure RMAN. We use a dedicated RMAN
database here, but I think you can configure backups without it. Other
non-RMAN options include snapshots and off-host, but I'd definitely want
to test those thoroughly before relying on them for DR.

 

-Jonathan

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
Simon (external)
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 1:33 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Question on DB online backups

 

Hi, this is really for anyone doing online Oracle Backups? 
Trying to create a new policy for this. Got agent installed (licensed).
Environment all Windows 2003. 

All I want is to do an online Oracle Backup. But I am struggling with
this, as I have no DB Support. 

Being told that backing up Oracle is huge excercise and needs time.
Trouble is, I wasnt expecting this sort of response.

Does anyone have advise or a script or something I could try and use to
perform an Oracle Backup? 

At the moment, I stop services, then do backup & start services. But Im
not sure that is good practice. while Oracle Down, application is down.
Hence, no one works!!!

Any input appreciated. I have and am still using Admin guide, but I
wanted real world advice here. I got a sample Hot Oracle DB Backup from
the goodies directory, but not sure if this is right way to do it.

Goal is to get a backup while application online. I do tons of online
SQL, and no issues with backups. Yet apparantly Oracle is more
complex !!!

News to me... But feedback welcome 
Thanks 

Regards 

Simon 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Number of clients one NBU admin can manage.

[Martin, Jonathan]

 

We are currently 493 clients with a single NBU admin, and I estimate
that's about 30% of my time. That's with a liberal amount of scripting /
automation taking care of all the day-to-day tasks and a standard
environment across the board. That percentage will increase during
different periods, for example during hardware / software refreshes or
acquisitions.

 

-Jonathan

 

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Mark
Hickey
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 5:18 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Number of clients one NBU admin can manage.

 

Folks,
Assuming a mix of about 50% VM and 50% physical clients, and a large (
several hundred) Oracle and SQL Server (almost 2000) presence, are there
ant rules of thumb about how many clients a NBU backup admin can handle?

Thanks

 

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] What to do with our growing Catalog on the Masterserver??

[Martin, Jonathan]

I was working on our 7.1 upgrade project and was looking for a fision-io card 
or other SSD solution for my catalog. The flat file aspect of the catalog is an 
I/O hog, and I'd prefer an SSD solution to 8 or 10 spindles in my master. I 
tend to agree with those that say it's a bad idea to put your catalog on an 
array you backup etc...

As far as upgrading in place versus new master is concerned, we are doing the 
latter. We have many clients that cannot upgrade to 7.1 at this point due to 
compatibility concerns. We'll keep our 6.5.6 master around a year or so until 
all those client have been migrated. At that point I will likely re-import the 
few backup images that have not yet expired. 99% of our backups' retentions are 
1 year or less, so this shouldn't be much work.

-Jonathan

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Bluejay Adametz
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] What to do with our growing Catalog on the 
Masterserver??

>          1B: instead of keeping the catalog on a local disk - possibly we can 
> direct connect to one of our filers and dump the catalog there.

I always considered it a really bad idea to put my catalog, or even
catalog backup, on the same storage systems as the data that I'm
backing up (I'm not sure if that's the case you're describing). If
that array fails for any reason, you could lose both the data as well
as the catalog for that data, making a restore take considerably
longer.

My environment isn't nearly that size, but I keep my 23gb catalog on
local disks on my master and do catalog backups to an array at the
other end of the campus.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] exclude list of SQL cluster

[Martin, Jonathan]

I generally exclude the SQL Databases and Logs. Those directories move
depending on your configuration and SQL Version.

I think the defaults for SQL 2008 are:
?:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL10.MSSQLSERVER\MSSQL\DATA
?:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL10.MSSQLSERVER\MSSQL\LOGS

-Jonathan


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Re: [Veritas-bu] vmware backups in NBU 7.1

[Martin, Jonathan]

 

If you mean the VM host (the physical server) then my experience is that
you have to use the fqdn or restores will not work. If you mean the VM
Guests (virtual machines hosted on the physical server) then I have
tested both display name and dns name, and both work. However, we have
decided to use display name in production. To use DNS name, open the
policy, select snapshot client options, then select VM DNS Name for
Client name selection.

 

-Jonathan

 

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Harry
Tirrell
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:37 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] vmware backups in NBU 7.1

 

According to the doc in 7.1 you can backup vm servers by dns name.  Is
anyone doing this?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle Backups - Online Agent Advice

[Martin, Jonathan]

What version of Oracle on what OS?

 

-Jonathan

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon 
(external)
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:16 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Oracle Backups - Online Agent Advice

 

Could I possibly seek advice from anyone that has done Oracle Online backups, 
or knows how to configure them? 
Although I am going through the guide, I am struggling. Also moreso, that I 
dont have anyone from DBA side to assist me with some of this.

Its a single box, DB is only 550MB in size at the moment, but dont want to keep 
taking services down, as it causes issues with end users.

Any advice is better than no advice.. 

Regards 

Simon 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] windows new install nb7.1 to d: drive

[Martin, Jonathan]

Yes, select custom install and you can manually change the location from 
C:\Program Files\Veritas to D:\Program Files\Veritas. Also be aware that I 
recently installed to the C: (accidentally), removed the install via Add/Remove 
Programs, Reinstalled to D:, and NetBackup's registry entries were all screwed 
up. I'm not sure if it was a one time thing or if there is a problem with the 
install package but the uninstall did not clean out all the registry entries 
which left me with registry entries pointing to C: and D: which left NetBackup 
unstable. I chose to rebuild the machine entirely (it was a new build anyway) 
but Datalink support suggested clearing out the registry entries manually.

-Jonathan

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To: 'Iverson, Jerald'; 'VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] windows new install nb7.1 to d: drive

Do a custom install


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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 7:19 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] windows new install nb7.1 to d: drive

i've been using netbackup on unix/linux for many years.  i'm attempting my 
first install of netbackup 7.1 for a new small environment which is a windows 
master/media server.  i'd like to install to the d: drive but the installation 
gui does not give me a chance to change it.  i do not want to install to c: and 
then have to hack it to move it to the d: drive as i've seen some symantec 
articles on moving the database if it gets too big.  has anyone been able to 
install directly to a different location?  should i download 7.0 and try that, 
and then upgrade to 7.1?  that also seems to be an unneccessary hack if the 7.0 
installation does let me change the installation path.  hopefully it's 
something i'm overlooking as i'm fairly new to using this here pointy-clicky 
thing.

thanks in advance,
jerald

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP restore issue

[Martin, Jonathan]

As far as I am aware, you cannot restore NDMP backups to non-NDMP
devices and writing NDMP backups to different NDMP devices is hit or
miss. I've run NDMP backups on several different NAS devices, NetApps
(various versions on ONTAP), Sun Unified Storage Platform, StorageTek,
OpenFiler and the best I have been able to do is to restore an NDMP
backup to the same manufacturer of NAS device with a different model /
software / firmware release. 

 

-Jonathan

 

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ARORA
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 12:09 PM
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VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP restore issue

 

Hi ,

I have an issue and need to reply to customer ASAP.

master NB6.5.6 solaris8

server - solaris box NB6.5.6 (not an NDMP host)


we have been asked to restore NDMP backup to a mount point on a solaris
server.
While restoring it throws below error :

Error bpbrm (pid=20089) cannot retrieve NDMP credentials for host B,
error = 254
Error bpbrm (pid=20099) client restore EXIT STATUS 114: unimplemented
error code 114

 

My question :

 

Is it possible to restore NDMP backup to a diff. servers rather than to
NDMP hosts?

Is there way out by which we can achieve above objective (NDMP backup
restore to non ndmp host)?

 

 Regards

SAM

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Changing the retention period

[Martin, Jonathan]

If you change a retention level to another value the expiration on
images assigned that retention level will not automatically change. You
have to run bpexpdate with the recalculate option to update the catalog
with the new retention based on the original backup date and the new
retention value.

 

-Jonathan

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Howard
Graylin
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:00 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Changing the retention period

 

Folks,

 

The only way to change the retention period on backups that have already
run is to use the BPEXPDATE command, correct?  If I change the retention
period on the policy, it has no effect on existing backup
images...right?  One of the admin's here said that if you changed the
retention time in a specific policy in Tivoli, it would retroactively
change the expiration date on existing backups.  I'm 99% sure NBU
doesn't do that, but just wanted to make sure.

 

Thanks,

Howard

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Using NetBackup for Desktops/Laptops backup

[Martin, Jonathan]

We're looking at Microsoft's Data Protection manager here for this
purpose. Testing isn't complete, so no verdict is in. But the price of
online solutions is such that doing this in-house is the only reasonable
alternative.

-Jonathan

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetApp SMTAPE / NDMP on FAS3160

[Martin, Jonathan]

As a brief follow-up just in case some other poor sod runs into this same 
issue, SnapMirror to Tape was updated in ONTAP 8 and no longer accepts a 
trailing slash. So in summary, /vol/volume/ works in ONTAP 7, but ONTAP 8 
requires /vol/volume (no trailing slash).

 

-Jonathan

 

From: Martin, Jonathan 
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:30 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: NetApp SMTAPE / NDMP on FAS3160

 

I’m trying to run an SMTAPE backup of a NetApp FAS3160 to a Windows 2003 NBU 
6.5.6 Media. I previously had this configuration running on a FAS2040 that 
worked well, but the FAS3160 errors out with the following error:

 

5/12/2011 9:21:57 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=1328) NDMP_LOG_ERROR 0 couldn't find 
destination

5/12/2011 9:21:57 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=1328) NDMP backup failed, path = 
/vol/apps/   

5/12/2011 9:21:57 AM - Error bptm(pid=6956) none of the NDMP backups for client 
FAS3160 completed successfully   

5/12/2011 9:21:58 AM - end writing; write time: 00:00:03

NDMP backup failure(99)

 

If I configure my NDMP policy and change the client to the FAS2040, it runs. If 
I change the client to the FAS3160 it fails with the error above. If I remove 
“set type=smtape” from the selection list the backup runs fine as a standard 
NDMP backup. I’m writing to a DSSU on a media server, but I get similar errors 
writing to a fiber connected / SSO LTO3 tape drive. We’re also tried using the 
FQDNs for both the 2040 and 3160 to see if it makes a difference (it does not). 
NetApp support just asked me if we have the proper tier’d license for this 
3160, which we haven’t purchased yet. But should that matter? I’ve got a NDMP 
license key installed, and I’m not aware that NetBackup has ever enforced 
individual client tier license keys. Anyone have any ideas?

 

TIA,

 

-Jonathan

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Best way to do ESXi 4.1 backup by VeritasNetbackup.

[Martin, Jonathan]

Just a quick note here on business justification. It is a pretty easy
sell here that we need the ability to recover a fully functional VM in
less than an hour. We can't quite get this done with a traditional
backup and restore methodology, but we can do it with the Enterprise
Client. The other alternative is san based snapshots, which isn't cheap.
So our justification looks something like:

Standard Clients + 20% Snapshot Space vs. Enterprise Client

Add to that the decreased backup times of your VMs, and the ability to
keep images on tape longer than snapshots and this justification was
fairly easy.

-Jonathan

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Simon (external)
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 5:49 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Best way to do ESXi 4.1 backup by
VeritasNetbackup.

Capacity too expensive, but I wish we could :-(( 

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Best way to do ESXi 4.1 backup by Veritas
Netbackup.

No no!

It's an Enterprise Client based on a Tier level per physically populated
socket

Tier 1 =1CPU
Tier 2 = 2-3 CPU
Tier 3 = 4
etc.  (Something like that at least...)
Again, populated sockets only!  Core counts make no difference.

This covers UNLIMITED guests.  You can carve out any number of vCPU's
you want.  The Enterprise client for the physical host covers it all!


If they are charging for physical hosts and virtual guests, they are
ripping you off and doing it wrong.

Again, look into Capacity licensing, and it could be simpler for you.
Especially since you use quad CPU boxes.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Where is my IP hiding?

[Martin, Jonathan]

Shot in the dark here. Have you checked WINS? We have a *very* annoying
issue here where old WINS records take precedence over DNS via the "WINS
lookup" functionality in DNS. We normally have to tombstone the record
in WINS and clear the DNS cache to resolve.

-Jonathan

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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:49 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Where is my IP hiding?

Hi All

Am running a NetBackup 7.1 testbed on Windows. VMware has decided it's 
time to change my IP address so I have updated the hosts file on the 
master server.

NetBackup now absolutely refuses to work after several reboots. I can 
ping my master server by name, and forward and reverse lookups go to the

correct IP address.

It seems that problem is that any EMM type commands still have the old 
IP somewhere, and I'm getting status 334 (EMM Initialization Failed) 
when I run pretty much anything.

When I run netstat -a I see several SYN_SENT connections to the old IP 
(pbx port) that is no longer relevant.

I've had a quick look through the NBU parts of the Registry but can't 
find anything.

Where is this IP coming from? I'm pretty sure it's not the highly 
annoying new netbackup IP cache as I have rebooted several times.

Cheers
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Best way to do ESXi 4.1 backup by VeritasNetbackup.

[Martin, Jonathan]

Virtual master server

The NetBackup master server is supported within a virtual machine, under
the

limitations described in the "General guidelines for support."

Refer to the following NetBackup Operating System compatibility document
for

a list of supported NetBackup 7.x master server platforms:

http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH12708
9

If you have the infrastructure in place to easily replicate your .vmdk
files to DR this could greatly simplify disaster recovery by giving you
a fully functional master without the hassle of catalog recovery.

-Jonathan

From: Scott Jacobson [mailto:sjaco...@novell.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:24 PM
To: Scott Chapman; veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu;
rusty.ma...@sungard.com
Cc: Simon (external)' 'WEAVER; Martin, Jonathan;
'VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Best way to do ESXi 4.1 backup by
VeritasNetbackup.

 

Off Topic - a VM Master NBU Server?

 

I wasn't aware that Symantec supported a VM Master server, at least in
6.5.x they don't.  Perhaps that has changed in 7.x ?

 

-sj


>>>  6/1/2011 2:52 PM >>>
I'll state first that we use a capacity based licensing model, so I've
been out of the loop for a few years on licenses and all that (thank
goodness!). 

The VMware backup host can be a Client, Media Server, or even a Master.
All it has to have is access to the datastore(s) and configured in
NetBackup as a VMware backup host. For licensing, I would assume this
is, at least, a normal client or possibly an enterprise client license. 

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Martin, our sales team has lead us to believe that you license per
physical machine, so in the case where you say 219x$500, you actually
only need 10physical x $500 = $5000.  So the vStorage backup is actually
more, because you now have to pay $2000 x 10 = $20,000, plus you need to
license the "backup host" which needs to be a windows media server
(can't be an ent client as it backs up hosts other than itself).

Scott Chapman
Senior Technical Specialist
Storage and Database Administration
ICBC - Victoria
Ph:  250.414.7650  Cell:  250.213.9295

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<mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu> ] On Behalf Of
Martin, Jonathan
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 8:57 AM
To: WEAVER, Simon (external); VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Best way to do ESXi 4.1 backup by
VeritasNetbackup.

If a standard client runs $500 and an enterprise client runs $2000, then
as long as you back up more than 4 virtual machines you are saving a
heap of money. I'm not sure why you need the SAN Media Server, I use a
standard media server that is already licensed and did not investigate
using a SAN media server for this purpose. But the per-VM cost could
offset this purchase easily.

As a real world example, I am currently upgrading a site to NBU 7.1 with
219 VMs on 10 physical hosts. That's 219 x $500 = $109,500 versus 10 x
$2,000 = $20,000 in licenses. This is all ballpark pricing, but we've
completely changed all of our licenses to this model for the savings.

Does this not work for you? I'm certain there are scenarios where this
doesn't work but I didn't think them very common, i.e. high-powered VMs
that consume 50% of the physical hosts' resources. We tend not to
virtualize in these types of cases.

-Jonathan

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
<mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu> ] On Behalf Of
WEAVER,
Simon (external)
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:34 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Best way to do ESXi 4.1 backup by
VeritasNetbackup.

Hi
I have used 7.0.1 with vSphere 4.1, using a SAN MEdia Server, writing to
disk and tape, and it seems good

Re: [Veritas-bu] Best way to do ESXi 4.1 backup by VeritasNetbackup.

[Martin, Jonathan]

Thanks for the info. My sales team is coming in tomorrow, and apparently
we need to have a little chat. =P

-Jonathan

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Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 12:04 PM
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'VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Best way to do ESXi 4.1 backup by
VeritasNetbackup.

Martin, our sales team has lead us to believe that you license per
physical machine, so in the case where you say 219x$500, you actually
only need 10physical x $500 = $5000.  So the vStorage backup is actually
more, because you now have to pay $2000 x 10 = $20,000, plus you need to
license the "backup host" which needs to be a windows media server
(can't be an ent client as it backs up hosts other than itself).

Scott Chapman
Senior Technical Specialist
Storage and Database Administration
ICBC - Victoria
Ph:  250.414.7650  Cell:  250.213.9295

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Jonathan
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 8:57 AM
To: WEAVER, Simon (external); VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Best way to do ESXi 4.1 backup by
VeritasNetbackup.

If a standard client runs $500 and an enterprise client runs $2000, then
as long as you back up more than 4 virtual machines you are saving a
heap of money. I'm not sure why you need the SAN Media Server, I use a
standard media server that is already licensed and did not investigate
using a SAN media server for this purpose. But the per-VM cost could
offset this purchase easily.

As a real world example, I am currently upgrading a site to NBU 7.1 with
219 VMs on 10 physical hosts. That's 219 x $500 = $109,500 versus 10 x
$2,000 = $20,000 in licenses. This is all ballpark pricing, but we've
completely changed all of our licenses to this model for the savings.

Does this not work for you? I'm certain there are scenarios where this
doesn't work but I didn't think them very common, i.e. high-powered VMs
that consume 50% of the physical hosts' resources. We tend not to
virtualize in these types of cases.

-Jonathan

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
Simon (external)
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:34 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Best way to do ESXi 4.1 backup by
VeritasNetbackup.

Hi
I have used 7.0.1 with vSphere 4.1, using a SAN MEdia Server, writing to
disk and tape, and it seems good!

The only problems I have is the price!! Its WAYY expensive :-(((
But we cant buy it !!! Symantec dont seem to be offering us good pricing
:-(

Simon 

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To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Best way to do ESXi 4.1 backup by Veritas
Netbackup.

Well I know with 7.x you can now use the vstorage API. I'm just
scratching the surface on this myself and plan on moving to this method
once I upgrade to 7.1. From what I have gathered so far:

1) You deploy a "vmware backup host" which is basically just a window
machine with an enterprise client license. (I think if you have a
windows media server this can be piggy-backed onto an existing media
server)
2) From there the backup host communicates with the ESX servers directly
and integrates with the snapshot capabilities and pulls the data
directly from the ESX servers. You no longer need clients in the VM
guests. (if you were going that route before)
3) This provides granular file restore for windows and linux clients.
(linux as of 7.1) Still no granular file restore from solaris from what
I have gathered.

I've heard mixed results from people using this but overall it seems
orders of magnitude better than the older VCB method. If your ESX
datastores are on SAN there are some even better methods of backing of
your vmware environments. Unfortunately we are on NAS at my current
shop.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Best way to do ESXi 4.1 backup by VeritasNetbackup.

[Martin, Jonathan]

If a standard client runs $500 and an enterprise client runs $2000, then
as long as you back up more than 4 virtual machines you are saving a
heap of money. I'm not sure why you need the SAN Media Server, I use a
standard media server that is already licensed and did not investigate
using a SAN media server for this purpose. But the per-VM cost could
offset this purchase easily.

As a real world example, I am currently upgrading a site to NBU 7.1 with
219 VMs on 10 physical hosts. That's 219 x $500 = $109,500 versus 10 x
$2,000 = $20,000 in licenses. This is all ballpark pricing, but we've
completely changed all of our licenses to this model for the savings.

Does this not work for you? I'm certain there are scenarios where this
doesn't work but I didn't think them very common, i.e. high-powered VMs
that consume 50% of the physical hosts' resources. We tend not to
virtualize in these types of cases.

-Jonathan

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Simon (external)
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:34 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Best way to do ESXi 4.1 backup by
VeritasNetbackup.

Hi
I have used 7.0.1 with vSphere 4.1, using a SAN MEdia Server, writing to
disk and tape, and it seems good!

The only problems I have is the price!! Its WAYY expensive :-(((
But we cant buy it !!! Symantec dont seem to be offering us good pricing
:-(

Simon 

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Best way to do ESXi 4.1 backup by Veritas
Netbackup.

Well I know with 7.x you can now use the vstorage API. I'm just
scratching the surface on this myself and plan on moving to this method
once I upgrade to 7.1. From what I have gathered so far:

1) You deploy a "vmware backup host" which is basically just a window
machine with an enterprise client license. (I think if you have a
windows media server this can be piggy-backed onto an existing media
server)
2) From there the backup host communicates with the ESX servers directly
and integrates with the snapshot capabilities and pulls the data
directly from the ESX servers. You no longer need clients in the VM
guests. (if you were going that route before)
3) This provides granular file restore for windows and linux clients.
(linux as of 7.1) Still no granular file restore from solaris from what
I have gathered.

I've heard mixed results from people using this but overall it seems
orders of magnitude better than the older VCB method. If your ESX
datastores are on SAN there are some even better methods of backing of
your vmware environments. Unfortunately we are on NAS at my current
shop.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup for vSphere 4

[Martin, Jonathan]

Just wanted to follow-up on this older thread I started a few weeks back
and say that nbd for VMware (non-shared storage) is working as intended
at impressive speeds. I've got approximately 50GB of Windows test VMs
and they are consistently pulling 60MB/sec. Granted this is an idle test
system and 60MB/sec isn't driving LTO5. But a comparative Windows Client
backup of the same systems only averaged 8MB/sec. I could probably get
that closer to 60MB/sec by multiplexing several streams from different
VMs, but that would introduce all the negative restore aspects of
multiplexing. Overall, very impressive and I look forward to rolling
this into production and trying to best that 250MB/sec from George
Winter's Cisco UCS presentation. =P

 

Environment:

NBU 7.1 on Windows 2008R2 with LTO5 Drive

VMware ESXi 4.1 U1 with 4 x 15K 146GB SAS Drives in Raid-10

 

-Jonathan

 

 

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[Veritas-bu] NetApp SMTAPE / NDMP on FAS3160

[Martin, Jonathan]

I’m trying to run an SMTAPE backup of a NetApp FAS3160 to a Windows 2003 NBU 
6.5.6 Media. I previously had this configuration running on a FAS2040 that 
worked well, but the FAS3160 errors out with the following error:

 

5/12/2011 9:21:57 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=1328) NDMP_LOG_ERROR 0 couldn't find 
destination

5/12/2011 9:21:57 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=1328) NDMP backup failed, path = 
/vol/apps/   

5/12/2011 9:21:57 AM - Error bptm(pid=6956) none of the NDMP backups for client 
FAS3160 completed successfully   

5/12/2011 9:21:58 AM - end writing; write time: 00:00:03

NDMP backup failure(99)

 

If I configure my NDMP policy and change the client to the FAS2040, it runs. If 
I change the client to the FAS3160 it fails with the error above. If I remove 
“set type=smtape” from the selection list the backup runs fine as a standard 
NDMP backup. I’m writing to a DSSU on a media server, but I get similar errors 
writing to a fiber connected / SSO LTO3 tape drive. We’re also tried using the 
FQDNs for both the 2040 and 3160 to see if it makes a difference (it does not). 
NetApp support just asked me if we have the proper tier’d license for this 
3160, which we haven’t purchased yet. But should that matter? I’ve got a NDMP 
license key installed, and I’m not aware that NetBackup has ever enforced 
individual client tier license keys. Anyone have any ideas?

 

TIA,

 

-Jonathan

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU not seeing tape in tape drive

[Martin, Jonathan]

Just a shot in the dark (no pun intended), but have you disabled the
Removable Media service?

-Jonathan

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU not seeing tape in tape drive

Hi,

I have an issue where i'm on a dark site trying to get Netbackup 7 ready
for a DR test. I have a server with Windows 2003 R2 and a directly SCSi
attached LTO4 tape drive. The drive can be seen in Device Manager and
the driver is installed. I installed NBU7, started it and straight away
NBU picked up the new drive. So, I have a catalog tape from a few weeks
ago to play with which was in the drive. In device monitor it could see
the recorded media and in Reports and Images on Media it came back with
the catalog name etc. 

Now when I added the tape into MM and then tried to import the tape it
errored with no media found in device please verify and then went on to
the requesting next resource...

Can anybody suggest anything as I've run out of ideas.

Thanks,
Chris

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to rerun only one filepath from buselection?

[Martin, Jonathan]

In the windows gui (not sure about the java gui) select the 5 you do not
want to run and "cut" them out. Then re-run the policy and schedule.
Paste the selections back after the job starts.

-Jonathan

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to rerun only one filepath from
buselection?

Background:  NBU 6.0, policy that has 6 different backup selections on
one client.
i have a separate stream dividing the backup selections, and one of
those backups failed, 5 were successful.  
I want to to rerun the backup, but i don't want to have to re-run all
the successful 5 over again.
is this possible? 
This seems to be a significant issue that has come up when discussing
adding a lot of backup ability within one policy, as it significantly
reduces the ability to re run just a single part.
Thanks for the help.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 5.0 / Windows 2008 R2 / Hyper-V

[Martin, Jonathan]

a) No.
b) No.
c) No.
d) No.

You might be able to get file level backups working with 5, but it's not
supported and you would be running the 32bit client on a 64bit OS.
System State backups will definitely not function. They don't even
function in my 6.5.6 environments, much less 5.

-Jonathan

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 5.0 / Windows 2008 R2 / Hyper-V

Hi, a quick query that I hope an expert can answer quickly and easily
and save a netbackup noob from hours of (possibly pointless) internet
searches, so...

Can Netbackup v5:
a) backup Windows 2008 R2 servers?
b) backup Windows 2008 R2 servers that are virtualised under Hyper-V
hypervisor?
c) backup ADCS (certificate services) for windows 2008 R2?
d) restore(!) the above backups?

I do not know much about Netbackup but I understand this is a relatively
old version so I am expecting a pretty negative repsonse.

Finally any pointers to where I might have found this kind of
information would be useful, searches on google and within symantec's
support site didn't help me much.

Thanks in advance for your time and knowledge.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup for vSphere 4

[Martin, Jonathan]

Thanks for the clarification George. The guide says the datastore must
be available to the backup host several times on pgs 17 (diagram) ,23
(Table 2-1) & 24 (Notes). Perhaps I should have read a bit further on pg
24 "A SAN connection between the backup host and the datastore is
optional if you use the NBD transfer type or NBDSSL transfer type."

-Jonathan

From: George Winter [mailto:george_win...@symantec.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 1:14 PM
To: Martin, Jonathan; nbu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup for vSphere 4

 

Hi Jonathan.

You can implement the NetBackup for VMware solution on any storage that
is supported by VMware.  If you have a non-shared storage environment
such as NAS or DAS storage, you can backup your VMs using network based
backups.  NetBackup implements this as the NBD transport type.  You lose
no backup or restore functionality when implementing this transport
type.

-George Winter

Symantec Corporation

 

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Jonathan
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 8:29 AM
To: nbu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup for vSphere 4

 

I was just reading through the NetBackup for VMware 7.1 Administrator's
Guide and it looks to me like there are no options to implement this
policy type other than at locations that have shared VM storage (by
presenting the luns to the master.) This seems very strange to me, given
that tons of other solutions allow the backup of .vmdk files across the
network without shared storage. Does anyone know if Symantec plans to
change this in the future? We are actively deploying ESX to the field in
small / non-clustered configurations (without shared storage) and I'm
being pressed on why we can't backup the .VMDKs directly.

-Jonathan

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[Veritas-bu] Netbackup for vSphere 4

[Martin, Jonathan]

I was just reading through the NetBackup for VMware 7.1 Administrator's
Guide and it looks to me like there are no options to implement this
policy type other than at locations that have shared VM storage (by
presenting the luns to the master.) This seems very strange to me, given
that tons of other solutions allow the backup of .vmdk files across the
network without shared storage. Does anyone know if Symantec plans to
change this in the future? We are actively deploying ESX to the field in
small / non-clustered configurations (without shared storage) and I'm
being pressed on why we can't backup the .VMDKs directly.

-Jonathan

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Re: [Veritas-bu] strange disk usage

[Martin, Jonathan]

Just a shot in the dark, but have you enabled image compression? We have
servers with millions of tiny files that produce huge images files
(5GB+) and compressing those into a .tgz might chew up a fair amount of
space before the original image gets deleted.

 

-Jonathan

 

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Kalusche, Dan
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 10:57 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] strange disk usage

 

Hey all - 

Just wondering if anyone has run into this.

We've set up our /usr/openv (/veritas) filesystem on a separate
filesystem about 300GB in size.

Right now, we're down to about 60Gb free, and I've been receiving low
diskspace alerts.

It seems that there is something chewing up about 20-30GB of space in
this filesystem on a sporadic schedule.

Looks like it generally happens 2-3 times a week, and I've discovered
that it's been happening for a while after some research.

Normally it's not an issue, but since we're getting down to low
available free space, it's become an issue.

I'm wondering if anyone has come across a netbackup process that would
do this?

When it was occuring yesterday, I searched for large files, and found
none, so it must be a lot of small files accumulating.

We're running NB 6.5.6.
Thanks in advance for any input!

Dan K

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5 client backing up to NBU 7 Master & Media

[Martin, Jonathan]

Have you tried recovering an entire operating system with the 5.1 client
and 7.0 master? I'm currently planning our upgrade to 7.0, and most of
my 5.1 Windows 2000 I will convert to VMware ESX backups, but I've got a
few Windows 2000 non-vm, HP-UX, and Sun OS machines with 5.1 clients
that I will have to test. I won't be able to test recover of the HP-UX
and Sun hardware because we don't have spares.

 

-Jonathan

 

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scott.geo...@parker.com
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:27 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5 client backing up to NBU 7 Master &
Media

 

Its not supported, but it still works.  If you are still using that
version of a client, probably everything else about the client is
unsupported too!  We have a couple of AIX 4.3.3 servers using that
client.  Backing up just fine.

The NBU client on these systems is the very least of my worries!  ;-)



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To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
From: DiskJockey 
Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Date: 03/31/2011 04:31PM
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5 client backing up to NBU 7 Master &
Media

we just did our upgrade from 6.5.1 to 7.0.1

from my research 5.x is not support by 7.0, I believe the min.
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[Veritas-bu] 3rd Party LTO Encryption Software

[Martin, Jonathan]

We're looking to deploy a small master / media / file server combo to a
remote site where security is a concern. We'd like to deploy LTO4/5
media encryption but we're not very excited by Symantec's $10,000 cost
for MSEO. Is anyone using any 3rd party software to manage their
encryption that they can recommend? I think we've ruled out hardware
devices.

TIA,

-Jonathan
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Win2k8 Clients - Query on exe files

[Martin, Jonathan]

Same issue here, 6.5.6. Master, 6.5.6 Windows 2008 x64 Client.

 

 

 

For example C:\Windows\Regedit.exe is missing in the OS backup of C:\

 

Also unavailable from the command line: bplist.exe -l "C:\Windows\*.exe", but 
some other executables are. (C:\Windows\FramePkg.exe for example.)

 

Have you tried restoring the system state to an alternate location? I’ve done 
this in the past with windows registry hive files with some success.

 

-Jonathan

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon 
(external)
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:20 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Win2k8 Clients - Query on exe files

 

Evening, 
I think I could be going mad. I tried tried this on 2 NBU environments (6.5.6 
and 7.0.1) and I am able to reproduce the same problem.

I have some Services that run on windows 2008 clients that have .exe files in 
folder. 
The trouble is, when I do a restore, the .exe files are not present. 
I see System State listed, and although I can expand the container, I am NOT 
able to drill down to see individual files!

For example, I have a container called System Files but I have no idea if 
my .exe files are in there. Is anyone got 2k8 clients out there that could 
check if their .exe files are getting backed up, or am I over looking something!

Regards 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup with clients on a VPN?

[Martin, Jonathan]

We currently use a "home grown" application to backup our desktops /
laptops and it's terrible from a space use perspective. I did a simple
analysis on replacing this with another solution, and the online
solutions were the most expensive. (Mozy, Carbonite, etc..) The most
feasible solution from my analysis (for Windows Desktops / Laptops) was
Microsoft Data Protection Manager. Our existing EA license covers the
client cost, and the server component is free. The package includes an
app that runs backups on the client, then synchs changes to the DPM
server when it connects to the corporate network. There is also a
"deduplication" feature built in so the same OS files are not backed up
repeatedly. I haven't had a chance to actually deploy DPM, but from a
high level cost / features analysis it looked the most promising.
Further evaluation is scheduled to begin this summer.

 

-Jonathan

 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:06 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup with clients on a VPN?

 

I have a few road-warrior clients with laptops that connect to our
network via OpenVPN, meaning they have an encrypted connection, but they
share an IP address as far as NetBackup sees, and connections can only
be made from the client to the backup server.

I understand this precludes scheduled backups and server restores, but I
wonder if there might be a way to use user backups.   I seem to recall
there is a way to turn DNS forward and reverse look-ups off.

However, I'm really stuck with authentication.  How could the backup
server ensure the client is who its clientname says it is?

I have NetBackup Enterprise, w/o laptop/desktop option ... version 6.5,
if it makes a difference.

My take is that a commercial cloud solution such as Carbonite would
provide a much better solution than I can with NetBackup, but I'd love
to hear your ideas on how NetBackup might be used, or any other comments
you'd care to offer.

Thanks and cheers, Wayne

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Compatibility

[Martin, Jonathan]

No clue. When I started here 5 years ago we were running 5.1 in
production. I've handled the 6.0, 6.5, and soon 7.0 upgrades. I setup
the "legacy" 5.1 master to pick up a bunch of orphaned clients from a
dead 4.5 master another group managed. Occasionally while cleaning out
an old storage closet, I will run into NetBackup boxed software for the
3 and 4 versions. I haven't seen anything older than that, but I
wouldn't be surprised if I did. The situation is certainly not best
practice, but I don't get to decide what gets upgraded and what
languishes for 20+ years.

-Jonathan

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From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 10:29 AM
To: Martin, Jonathan
Cc: pranav batra; Veritas
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Compatibility

Hi Jon,

Wow, legacy 3.x clients!!
How long have you been using NBU?

Justin.

On Wed, 2 Mar 2011, Martin, Jonathan wrote:

> I can't speak to your specific linux kernel and I did not test with
6.5,
> but I specifically keep an old 5.1 master around to pickup my legacy
3.x
> and 4.5 NetBackup clients. In my testing, compatibility with 6.0 MP4
was
> mixed. Some older clients would work, others failed completely. The
> whole thing is unsupported, compatibility is probably mixed, and it
> could go down at any time. But, it's better than nothing.
>
>
>
> -Jonathan
>
>
>
> From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of pranav
> batra
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:58 AM
> To: Veritas
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Compatibility
>
>
>
>
> Hello Team,
>
> We are running Netbackup 4.5FP_3ga on two linux boxes with verion
Linux
> 2.2.7-1.23smp.
> Is Linux 2.2.7-1.23smp compatible with netbackup 6.5 as I am getting
too
> less throughput .
>
> Please advise.
>
> thanks,
> Pranav Batra
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Compatibility

[Martin, Jonathan]

I can't speak to your specific linux kernel and I did not test with 6.5,
but I specifically keep an old 5.1 master around to pickup my legacy 3.x
and 4.5 NetBackup clients. In my testing, compatibility with 6.0 MP4 was
mixed. Some older clients would work, others failed completely. The
whole thing is unsupported, compatibility is probably mixed, and it
could go down at any time. But, it's better than nothing.

 

-Jonathan

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of pranav
batra
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:58 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Compatibility

 


Hello Team,

We are running Netbackup 4.5FP_3ga on two linux boxes with verion Linux
2.2.7-1.23smp.
Is Linux 2.2.7-1.23smp compatible with netbackup 6.5 as I am getting too
less throughput .
 
Please advise.
 
thanks,
Pranav Batra

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] bpdown doesnt stop prcoesses

[Martin, Jonathan]

The "run as administrator" "feature" is called User Access Control (UAC), and 
in Windows 2008 you can disable it under the Control Panel >> Users (reboot 
required.) This was a minor annoyance for the server team for a while, but once 
application teams started running into it we had to turn it off. You can also 
configure shortcuts to always "run as administrator" if you want to keep UAC 
on, but don't want to constantly have to right click >> "run as administrator" 
for common tasks.

-Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Preston, Douglas
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 9:37 AM
To: 'VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] bpdown doesnt stop prcoesses

You need to be logged in as an administrator to run that command.  In 2008R2 
you may also need to right click on the bpdown and bpup apps and go into 
properties then compatibility tab then select run this program as an 
administrator.

Doug Preston
Phone 626-339-5221 Ext 1447
Email  dlpres...@lereta.com

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Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:53 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] bpdown doesnt stop prcoesses

Hi,

I have Netbackup 7.0.1 installed on Windows 2008 R2 and everything seems ok.
However when I try to bpdown the servers I recieve a message saying the service 
is "NOT STOPPED". Not sure what ive done wrong, the license is ok, I can create 
a disk storage unit etc etc

Any advice would be appreciated, thanks

PS C:\Program Files\Veritas\NetBackup\bin>  ./bpdown -f -v

NetBackup 7.0 -- Shutdown Utility

Shutting down services
> BMR Boot Service
> BMR Boot Service -- NOT STOPPED
> BMR Master Service
> BMR Master Service -- NOT STOPPED
> NetBackup Service Monitor
> NetBackup Service Monitor -- NOT STOPPED NetBackup Agent Request 
> Server NetBackup Agent Request Server -- NOT STOPPED NetBackup Storage 
> Lifecycle Manager NetBackup Storage Lifecycle Manager -- NOT STOPPED 
> NetBackup Key Management Service NetBackup Key Management Service -- 
> NOT STOPPED NetBackup Vault Manager NetBackup Vault Manager -- NOT 
> STOPPED NetBackup Service Layer NetBackup Service Layer -- NOT STOPPED 
> NetBackup Policy Execution Manager NetBackup Policy Execution Manager 
> -- NOT STOPPED NetBackup Job Manager NetBackup Job Manager -- NOT 
> STOPPED NdmpMoverListener NdmpMoverListener -- NOT STOPPED NetBackup 
> Request Daemon NetBackup Request Daemon -- NOT STOPPED NetBackup 
> Compatibility Service NetBackup Compatibility Service -- NOT STOPPED 
> NetBackup Database Manager NetBackup Database Manager -- NOT STOPPED 
> NetBackup Audit Manager NetBackup Audit Manager -- NOT STOPPED nbazd 
> nbazd -- NOT STOPPED nbatd nbatd -- NOT STOPPED spoold spoold -- NOT 
> STOPPED spad spad -- NOT STOPPED NetBackup Remote Manager and Monitor 
> Service NetBackup Remote Manager and Monitor Service -- NOT STOPPED 
> NetBackup Device Manager NetBackup Device Manager -- NOT STOPPED 
> NetBackup Volume Manager NetBackup Volume Manager -- NOT STOPPED 
> NetBackup Resource Broker NetBackup Resource Broker -- NOT STOPPED 
> NetBackup Enterprise Media Manager NetBackup Enterprise Media Manager 
> -- NOT STOPPED SQLANYs_VERITAS_NB SQLANYs_VERITAS_NB -- NOT STOPPED 
> NetBackup Event Manager NetBackup Event Manager -- NOT STOPPED 
> NetBackup Notification Service NetBackup Notification Service -- NOT 
> STOPPED NetBackup SAN Client Fibre Transport Service NetBackup SAN 
> Client Fibre Transport Service -- NOT STOPPED NetBackup Client Service 
> NetBackup Client Service -- NOT STOPPED NetBackup Legacy Client 
> Service NetBackup Legacy Client Service -- NOT STOPPED NetBackup 
> Legacy Network Service NetBackup Legacy Network Service -- NOT STOPPED
Shutdown of one or more services failed.
PS C:\Program Files\Veritas\NetBackup\bin>

When I try to bpup I receive the following which confirm the services are up as 
they are when I look at the services themselves from manage:

PS C:\Program Files\Veritas\NetBackup\bin> ./bpup -f -v

NetBackup 7.0 -- Startup Utility

Starting services
> NetBackup Legacy Network Service
> NetBackup Legacy Network Service -- NOT STARTED NetBackup Legacy 
> Client Service NetBackup Legacy Client Service -- NOT STARTED 
> NetBackup Client Service NetBackup Client Service -- NOT STARTED 
> NetBackup SAN Client Fibre Transport Service NetBackup SAN Client 
> Fibre Transport Service -- NOT STARTED NetBackup Notification Service 
> NetBackup Notification Service -- NOT STARTED NetBackup Event Manager 
> NetBackup Event Manager -- NOT STARTED SQLANYs_VERITAS_NB 
> SQLANYs_VERITAS_NB -- NOT STARTED NetBackup Enterprise Media Manager 
> NetBackup Enterprise Media Manager -- NOT STARTED NetBackup Resource 
> Broker NetBackup Resource Broker -- NOT STARTED NetBackup Volume 
> 

Re: [Veritas-bu] PureDisk vs. DataDomain

[Martin, Jonathan]

 

I'm not a fan of the per-TB licenses either, however my understanding of
the NetBackup Deduplication license is that you pay per TB up front
instead of on the back end, which means you don't have to pay for the DR
copy (or other copies.) I haven't priced this out yet, but it will be
interesting to see the 2 x DataDomain versus 1 x NetBackup Deduplication
+ 2 x DAS comparison. In my case we're considering converting a ton of
D2D DAS hardware to this model which means  I'm going to need crazy
Eddie pricing from EMC to compete with sites that already have storage. 

 

Just my $0.02.

 

-Jonathan

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:46 AM
To: Fred M
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] PureDisk vs. DataDomain

 

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Fred M <77fre...@gmail.com> wrote:

My employer is requesting I evaluate PureDisk and DataDomain for
de-duplication. 

 

One of the selling advantages of the PureDisk appliances is that you
only buy the de-dupe licenses once.  All hardware eventually gets old.
When that happens, you can buy another PureDisk appliance and re-use
your existing de-dupe licenses.  You could build your own appliance with
off-the-shelf hardware and re-use the licenses.  With a DD, when you
upgrade the hardware, you're re-buying the software again since the
prices are not separate.

 

When you're doing the cost comparisons, factor in not only the initial
purchase but also subsequent purchases.

 

I despise per-TB licenses too (as somebody else pointed out),  If I had
a choice, I wouldn't buy them and would tend to avoid the PureDisk
licensing model specifically for this reason.

 

   .../Ed

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netabckup server registry entries change aftereach reboot

[Martin, Jonathan]

Are you rebooting into "last known good" configuration? Windows keeps
two copies of the registry around just in case you reboot and the system
won't come back.

 

-Jonathan

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Saran
Brar
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:38 AM
To: Ed Wilts
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netabckup server registry entries change
aftereach reboot

 

Hi Ed,

 

Its just one server which has the problem. I tried reinstalling the
client and reboot but it didn't help. Will stop the netbackup services
and reboot and share my findings with you all.

 

Thanks,

 

Saran

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Ed Wilts  wrote:

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Saran Brar  wrote:

 

I would like to share with all of you a very strange problem with a
windows 2003 server. Whenever the server is rebooted, its netbackup
server registry entries change. 

 

Have anyone faced this kind of problem. Please help.

 

 I've never heard of this.  Is it only 1 server or all of them?

 

Turn off all of the NetBackup services and reboot.  Do the entries
change?  If so, you know it's not something in the NetBackup startups.

 

   .../Ed

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Backups not running

[Martin, Jonathan]

While trying to recreate your issue yesterday in a test environment I
did the same thing. Nbpemreq eventually did show the scheduled catalog
backups, but it took a while and did not show the after last backup
session incrementals.

-Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Nate
Sanders
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 1:54 PM
To: stefanos
Cc: Sanders, Nate; VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Backups not running

So I restarted netbackup, verified nbpem was not running, which it
wasn't. I deleted and created a new catalog policy with a different name
and now "bppemreq -predict |grep -i catalog" doesn't even show the Full
catalog thats supposed to run once a week. Nor are my "end of session"
incrementals running..

I guess it's time to open a support ticket.


On 01/18/2011 02:44 AM, stefanos wrote:
> I have the same problem with my customers from time to time.
>
> Stop NBU services.
> Check if all services are down. Most probable nbpem will still up.
Kill it,
> if you don't you will have the same problem.
> Start nbu
>
> Recheck your schedules
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Nate
Sanders
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 11:24 PM
> Cc: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Backups not running
>
> Policy settings:
>
> Type: NBU-Catalog
> Destination:
> Policy storage: Any_available
> Policy volume pool: CatalogBackup (there are two tapes in this pool)
>
> Schedule (name: Differential-Inc)
> Type: Differential Incremental Backup
> Schedule Type: (*) After each backup session
> Retention: 2 weeks
>
> It used to be I'd see about 100 diff-inc backup jobs a day.
>
>
> On 01/17/2011 03:19 PM, Nate Sanders wrote:
>> I ran -updatepolicies and then checked upcoming schedules
>>
>>> root@backup1:~$ nbpemreq -predict -date 01/17/2011 20:00:00
>>> Predicted work assuming no job run between now and Mon 17 Jan 2011
>>> 08:00:00 PM CST
>>> rl client   policy   schedule
type
>>> --   
>>> --
>>> 03 stage-imagedb01  RMAN_stage_simg01Archive_Logs
>>> 1 
>>> 03 netapp02 NDMP_autoload_subaru_ca Diff_Incr   
>>> 1 
>>> 03 stage-cleandb01  RMAN_stage_scln01Archive_Logs
>>> 1 
>>> 03 watson   RMAN_prod_dbaweb Archive_Logs
>>> 1 
>>> 03 bzsearch02   RMAN_prod_pbz02  Archive_Logs
>>> 1 
>>> 04 netapp01 NDMP_netapp1vmvol1   Full_Monthly
>>> 0 
>>> 03 gmcert01 RMAN_prod_pgmc01 Archive_Logs
>>> 1 
>>> 03 vplayer01RMAN_prod_pvid01 Archive_Logs
>>> 1 
>>> 03 gmcert02 RMAN_prod_pgmc02 Archive_Logs
>>> 1 
>>> 03 vplayer02RMAN_prod_pvid02 Archive_Logs
>>> 1 
>>> 03 stage-bzsearch01 RMAN_stage_sbz01 Archive_Logs
>>> 1 
>>> 03 stage-imagedb02  RMAN_stage_simg02Archive_Logs    
>>> 1 
>>> 03 stage-vplayer01  RMAN_stage_svid01Archive_Logs
>>> 1 
>>> 03 bzsearch01   RMAN_prod_pbz01  Archive_Logs
>>> 1 
>> Setting it out past 7 days does show the Full is scheduled to run
(which
>> is once a week), but should the Incrementals which are scheduled for
>> "after each session" show up?
>>
>>
>> On 01/17/2011 03:07 PM, Martin, Jonathan wrote:
>>> Have you tried "nbpemreq -updatepolicies"?
>>>
>>> What happens if you run "nbpemreq -predict -date "
>>> using the time of the next full or incr to run?
>>>
>>> -Jonathan
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>>> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Nate
>>> Sanders
>>> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:55 PM
>>> To: 'VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU'
>>> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Backups not running
>>>
>>> We just migrated from old hardware to new hardware, maintaining
version
>>> 6.5.6 on RHEL (

Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Backups not running

[Martin, Jonathan]

Have you tried "nbpemreq -updatepolicies"?

What happens if you run "nbpemreq -predict -date "
using the time of the next full or incr to run?

-Jonathan

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From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Nate
Sanders
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:55 PM
To: 'VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Backups not running

We just migrated from old hardware to new hardware, maintaining version
6.5.6 on RHEL (moved from RHEL 4.x to 5.x). We did a DR recovery to the
new host and had no problems. But now on the new hardware my hot Catalog
policy is no longer running incrementals after each session. The policy
hasn't changed and I verified everything is still configured
appropriately. A manual Incr or Full works fine, but the automated ones
aren't running.

Thoughts?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Diaster Recovery

[Martin, Jonathan]

I'm not sure what you mean by duplication script. I've never duplicated
a catalog backup or written one to a DSSU.

 

Hot catalog backups must be written to catalog backup volume pools, and
other backup types cannot be written to these pools. You can create
multiple volume pools and mark them as catalog backup pools. 

 

-Jonathan

 

From: Jim Horalek [mailto:j...@federaledge.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 11:11 AM
To: Martin, Jonathan; 'VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Diaster Recovery

 

Thanks j.onathan,

 

But should I have a separate offsite_catalog pool? Or is it just more
overhead and my dazed mind.

 

The duplication script only call a single destination pool OFFSITE

 

 

 

From: Martin, Jonathan [mailto:jmart...@intersil.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 8:02 AM
To: Jim Horalek; VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Diaster Recovery

 

Hot catalog backups require their own volume pool. The drfile is just
what you suggested, the image / pointer to the catalog backup.

 

-Jonathan

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jim
Horalek
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:58 AM
To: 'VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Diaster Recovery

 

I've been using offline catalogs and have now switched to online
catalogs (6.5.4)

 

I've started duplicating the images using the duplicate_images script in
the goodies directory.

I'm not using any switches (except -dp and -dstunit)  so its duplicating
everything (all clients, all policies etc) to the offsite pool.

 

My question is the catalog. Should the catalog have its own offsite
pool?

 

How does the catalog know about the images the images that I just
created? Is the catalog the last image written?

 

I seems to me that there is a lingering catalog image (of
itself-duplication) that was never duped. 

 

Or more likely I a bite dazed and it was duped and the drfile fixes
everthing.

 

Thanks

 

Jim 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Diaster Recovery

[Martin, Jonathan]

Hot catalog backups require their own volume pool. The drfile is just
what you suggested, the image / pointer to the catalog backup.

 

-Jonathan

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jim
Horalek
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:58 AM
To: 'VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Diaster Recovery

 

I've been using offline catalogs and have now switched to online
catalogs (6.5.4)

 

I've started duplicating the images using the duplicate_images script in
the goodies directory.

I'm not using any switches (except -dp and -dstunit)  so its duplicating
everything (all clients, all policies etc) to the offsite pool.

 

My question is the catalog. Should the catalog have its own offsite
pool?

 

How does the catalog know about the images the images that I just
created? Is the catalog the last image written?

 

I seems to me that there is a lingering catalog image (of
itself-duplication) that was never duped. 

 

Or more likely I a bite dazed and it was duped and the drfile fixes
everthing.

 

Thanks

 

Jim 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring a Oracle backup from production to DRnetbackup

[Martin, Jonathan]

 
1) Copy ...\NetBackup\db\images\ from master to dr-master. (Alternately 
restore catalog or import media)
2) Put media in DR library and inventory. (If using copy method above, move 
media into non-scratch volume pool.)
3) Change bp.conf on dr client to match source client name (if restore client 
has alternate name.)
4) Create No.Restrictions touch file.
5) Run RMAN restore script.
 
If your DR environment is in a different timezone, you have to account for that 
when creating the RMAN script, i.e. if your source client is in New York and a 
backup occurred at 9:00PM, and your restore client is in L.A., then you need to 
configure the RMAN script to restore to 6:00PM.
 
Good luck!
 
-Jonathan



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu on behalf of ibby
Sent: Sun 1/9/2011 10:29 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restoring a Oracle backup from production to DRnetbackup



Hello Everyone,

I need to restore a full oracle backup taken from the production site to 
DR,here is how we have setup the  backup environment at production and DR.

production site: netbackup 6.0 installed on windows 2003 server attached to a 
T24 tale library , production, DB, oracle 10g running on RHEL 4 , daily RMAN 
backups are taken.

DR site: Netbackup 7.0 installed on windows 2003 server ,attached to a T24 tape 
library.DR DB  ,oracle 10g running on RHEL 4.


I was hoping to to restore my DB backups from my production Netback onto this 
DR Netbackup instance but I am not understanding how this is performed.

Has anyone experience this before and would be willing to give me some pointers.
I do not have any experience (yet) with restoring catalogs or hot backups.

I read in various forum and it seems this is a tricky one ,

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance


ibby

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem recovering data from set of 32 tapes

[Martin, Jonathan]

Is this during the phase I or phase II import? Have you even tried phase II 
imports? You have to complete phase I imports of media, then phase II imports 
of the images on those media before you can restore anything.
 
Up your logging to verbose on the master and check the bptm and bpdbm logs. I 
cant recall which log, but I think there is a bptar or similar for restore 
operations from tape.
 
If you can't get this to work, I've got a document (posted to this forum 
previously) on how to use Linux and tar to extract images from a media manually.
 
-Jonathan



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu on behalf of 
denverbo...@uku.co.uk
Sent: Sun 1/9/2011 2:45 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Problem recovering data from set of 32 tapes



I bought a 2d hand Dell 132-T LTO3 robotic library for the express purpose of 
archiving my tremendous collection of data. I was/am a field systems engineer 
for several companies covering Desk, Laptop and server systems for about 1300 
different pieces of hardware and one aspect of my job involved getting and 
keeping a copy of every OS, App, Driver and  Utility of the many different 
hardware and systems.  I started in 1986 with Novell, Apple, Windows 3.1 and 
various flavors of Unix, CP/M, MP/M and a Myriad of software and tools used for 
fault diagnosis, troubleshooting and repair on the many US military systems I 
contracted service and maintenance for.  Since then, I have accumulated around 
200 5.25 360/720 and 1.2Mb Floppies, 500 750 and 1.44Mb 1.44 floppies, 200 
WANGDat, DAT1,2,3 and 4, QIC, TraVan, Mammoth M2 and DLT70 tapes and about 
25-30 HDD sizing from 20Mb(!) to 500Gb. 

The majority of the stuff from way-back-then is likely junk... but I consider 
it all priceless  ;-)

The data from the 5.25 and 3.5 floppies was imaged to several hundred bootable, 
self extracting, stand-alone file(s) using a product called DDC and I built a 
mini SCSI tower for reading all my WANGDat, Dat4 QIC, TraVan, Mammoth and DLT 
tapes.  I started with a 13-tape 2-drive DLT unit, progressed to a 24-tape 
4-drive DLT unit, bought a 32tape 4-drive DLT unit and then I simply ran out of 
space... so I bought the 132T 19Tb unit thinking I could surely archive 
everything on it - and add tapes as needed until I did.

Well,Using NetBackup 5.1, I managed to fill up 3/4 of that drives mix of 16 
LTO2 and 7 LTO3 tapes and then my picker burned up. Thats the gizmo that runs 
along a track, grabs the tapes and takes 'em to the reader, drive or mail-slot. 
I was dead in the water.  Well; it took 3 months, but I finally was able to buy 
a 132T-shell from an outfit in Tx, pull the picker off it, and get mine 132T 
working again. 

Trouble is, I moved the whole sheband 2x during that time (home renovation) 
lost the catalog somehow along the way and now cannot restore anything to the 
new 2Tb drives I just installed in the server.

I followed all the suggestions found on the many forums and identified 2 faults 
with the barcoding that weren't there before.  Tapes BC 00203 and 00211 were 
appearing as 0203L2 and 0211L2 and wouldn't inventory or import. The had also 
somehow migrated to the NBpool...

As they were assigned, I couldn't just move them so deassigned and then moved 
them to the correct pool (LTO2), then made 2 BC that reflected their Media ID 
and after 4-5hrs of fooling around I finally got them to inventory, updated the 
VM and now they show up in the Media List, but they still will not import.

 

The err I get is: 

Error bptm(pid=452) ERR - Cannot add client black_beauty_2, policy 
320Gb_Unknown and schedule Full to image database for import, error = a 
protocol error has occurred, skipping.

"Black_Beauty_2" is the NB master and Media Server

"320Gb_Unknown" is one of many external, temporary USB Drives I copied over to 
tape - the policy still exists but is deactivated (one time shot)

I was saving a copy of the Catalog on the D: drive under 'BP_Backup' and it is 
still there - or at least some files are but any attempt to access or read it 
results in errors that no importable records were found in the specified 
location. 

 

What am I doing wrong?  What am I missing?  All the other 22 tapes import 
flawlessly (although I still cannot restore anything)

Any ideas?

After I import all those tapes, and despite the errs on those 2 'L2' tapes 
during that process, what do I do next? 

FYI: I am using NB 5.1 on a 2k3 Standard OS Server Install

Thanks in advance  ;-)

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Mixed Backup Policies.

[Martin, Jonathan]

Netbackup can store images from any policy type in the same volume pool, and 
even on the same physical media. You don't need to divert your Windows and Unix 
backups to different volume pools unless that is a business requirement. I use 
volume pools in my environment to differentiate media location... i.e. Onsite, 
Vault, Offsite, Iron Mountain, etc...

-Jonathan

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Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 10:45 PM
To: Ed Wilts
Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Mixed Backup Policies.

Dear Mr Ed.

Sorry my mistake
<<
Ex. ERP_MON Tapes are using  ENC_ERP_MON Volume pool. .. . Library Slot #1
     WIN_MON Tapes are using ENC_WIN_MON Volume pool. … Library Slot #10
and so on.

This sounds really odd.  Why would you tie a slot to a volume pool?
>>

It is not a Volume Pool. It is a Backup Policy and each policy is dedicated
with a Volume Pool
Some of the Backup Policies are containing 5-6 tapes (slots).

I would like to say Can I use a common Volume Pool (with different Backup
Policies) for the mixed Backup's i.e. Unix/Win etc.

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Harpreet SINGH <
harpreet_si...@ctl.creative.com> wrote:
   To facilitate, I have configured the Backup Policies in such a way that
  they are tied up with one to one with designated Slot ID in Tape Library.
  I
  have separated out the UNIX backup and Windows Backup Policies.

  Ex. ERP_MON Tapes are using  ENC_ERP_MON Volume pool. .. . Library Slot
  #1
       WIN_MON Tapes are using ENC_WIN_MON Volume pool. … Library Slot #10
  and so on.

This sounds really odd.  Why would you tie a slot to a volume pool?

  May I know, If we merge the UNIX Backup’s and Windows Backup’s in a
  single
  backup policy. What are the problems we are going to face? Any backup /
  restore performance issue etc…

You can't do this.  Every policy has a policy type.  For Windows, that will
likely be Windows-NT.  For Unix, they'll be Standard.

   .../Ed

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[Veritas-bu] Error 233, Connection Reset

[Martin, Jonathan]

I've been working on an issue now for several weeks and it's got support
stumped (for the time being.)

 

Master: NBU 6.5.6 on Windows 2003 SP2

Clients: NBU 6.5.6. on Linux

 

Backups were working fine for months, then we started getting the
occasional error 233. Then one weekend we started getting boatloads of
them. Some backups are successful on 2nd attempt, others fail all
weekend long. The failures occur at random intervals. The details of the
activity monitor show connection reset by peer. The error only occurs on
full backups, not incrementals.

 

bpbkar on the master / media.

17:11:16.868 [14342] <4> bpbkar PrintFile: /boot/
17:11:16.868 [14342] <2> bpbkar SelectFile: INF - cwd = /boot
17:11:16.868 [14342] <2> bpbkar SelectFile: INF - path =
HP-initrd-2.6.9-78.EL.img
17:11:51.857 [14342] <16> flush_archive(): ERR - Cannot write to STDOUT.
Errno = 104: Connection reset by peer
17:11:51.857 [14342] <16> bpbkar Exit: ERR - bpbkar FATAL exit status =
24: socket write failed
17:11:51.857 [14342] <4> bpbkar Exit: INF - EXIT STATUS 24: socket write
failed

 

bpbkar log on client shows a similar error.

11:12:48.679 [26078] <16> bpbkar sighandler: ERR - bpbkar killed by
SIGPIPE

11:12:48.679 [26078] <2> bpbkar sighandler: INF - ignoring additional
SIGPIPE signals

11:12:48.679 [26078] <16> bpbkar Exit: ERR - bpbkar FATAL exit status =
40: network connection broken

11:12:48.679 [26078] <4> bpbkar Exit: INF - EXIT STATUS 40: network
connection broken

11:12:48.679 [26078] <2> bpbkar Exit: INF - Close of stdout complete

11:12:48.679 [26078] <4> bpbkar Exit: INF - setenv FINISHED=0

 

We ran a network sniffer on the traffic between the master/media and a
client and everything runs fine for while before the master sends a
bunch of RSTs, killing the job. Support found a Symantec article TCP
window scaling, but we've verified those settings and they seem fine.

 

Any ideas?

 

TIA,

 

-Jonathan

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[Veritas-bu] (Off Topic) Sun / Oracle ZFS via NDMP Backups

[Martin, Jonathan]

Is anyone else on the list testing Sun / Oracle's Unified Storage
Systems' ZFS over NDMP backup methodology? I've been struggling to
backup millions of tiny files with NFS mounts off a Sun 7210 device, but
after recently upgrading the firmware we've been testing ZFS over NDMP
with great success. In the past a single stream would be lucky to run
4MB/sec so we've run aggregated streams. With ZFS, we're pulling
45MB/sec single stream, and can easily max gigabit with 3 streams.
Frankly, it's hard to believe it's the same device. Given the
significant change we want to migrate to this methodology quickly, but
we're a little hesitant since the new methodology requires a firmware
upgrade that can't be backed out if we run into any issues.

 

Thanks,

 

-Jonathan

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Database Manager service terminatederror 21

[Martin, Jonathan]

 

Just FYI, if you run dheapmon.exe from the task scheduler you can see
the output of all heaps without having to use the console.

 

-Jonathan

 

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Michael
Graff Andersen
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:44 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Database Manager service
terminatederror 21

 

We have had an issue with Netbackup 7.0 where we had to increase the
non-interactive desktop heap size on our 2003 x64 master machines

 

Found EventID 26 in the system event log, at same time as our problem 

 

A long shot I known, but our vnetd service crashed every other day until
we increased the non-interactive desktop heap

 

We have used dheapmon8.1 to see the heap usage, you have to be logged on
to the console to see the non-interactive desktop heap

 

Regards

Michael

2010/10/31 bdiddy 

Im running netbackup 7.0.1 on 2003 x64. The server hardware is new, an
HP DL580. Once or twice a week the Netbackup Database Manager service
craps out causing a round of failed backups.

This appears in the windows eventlog.
Event Type: Error
Event Source:   Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID:   7024
The NetBackup Database Manager service terminated with service-specific
error 21 (0x15).

Symantec is stumped. Has anyone experienced this or have any ideas on
how to track down what could be causing it? Thanks

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[Veritas-bu] Selection List Break Up

[Martin, Jonathan]

 

I'm trying to break up the backups of a certain large folder via
selection list and I want to make sure I get everything.

 

Client: Solaris 10 x86 running NBU 6.5.6

Master/Media: Windows 2003 running NBU 6.5.6

 

So far I've got:

/home/[a-nA-N]*

/home/[o-zO-Z]*

/home/[0-9]*

 

What about special files and folders that start with special characters?
Is there a nice easy pattern I can tack onto this to pick up everything
else? For some reason Mr. Google isn't being very helpful in this regard
this morning, and Pg. 630 of the Windows Admin guide doesn't provide
much detail either.

 

Thanks,

 

-Jonathan

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

[Martin, Jonathan]

Directly off a recent Symantec quote:

"SYMC NETBACKUP OPTION SHARED STORAGE OPTION 7.0 XPLAT 1 DRIVE STD LIC"

This is a separate line item. Can't help you with the SAN Media server,
we don't use them here. Tier 1 is single CPU / Socket, Tier 2 is dual
CPU / Socket.

-Jonathan

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To: Ed Wilts; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

All
trying to purchase a 6.5 SAN Media License and SSO!

Company have come back with this description, which I cannot tie in with
what I need.

symc netbackup enterprise server 7.0 TIER 1 is the description given.

Any ideas if this is the new description for 6.5 San Media Server with
SSO installed.

I always thought SSO was seperate
Thanks, S.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restore Script.

[Martin, Jonathan]

We do this on one server here that often needs to write unique file
names to tape, then recover in batches. The syntax is whacky, and I
think if the filelist.txt file doesn't end with a blank line the entire
thing fails.

 

bprestore.exe -A -L C:\Path\RestoreLog.txt -R /C/Path/rename.txt -f
C:\Path\Filelist.txt

 

The rename.txt file looks like:

 

change /C/Path/location to /C/RestorePath/location

 

You are going to need to append the -C and -D for source and Destination
clients, but I'm sure it's doable. You also need to consider time frame.
Since we're using unique file names, we don't care when the backup
occurred.

 

Good luck!

 

-Jonathan

 

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ulises
Rodriguez
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:54 PM
To: 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restore Script.

 

All, 

 

I have a huge restore to do, I was wondering if any of you have a script
that I can feed a XLS,TXT, CSV file with the files I need to restore.
The file contains the server name, path and file name. 

 

Please let me know if this is even possible.

 

Thank you,

Ulises Rodriguez
Operations Support

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Is Netbackup SQL Server Agent required touse Netbackup to b

[Martin, Jonathan]

We use the MS-SQL Client here. We don't really have dedicated SQL DBAs,
we have windows admins with sql training and Oracle DBAs who would
rather manage Oracle. The text files offer simple configuration, and
restores are a breeze with the GUI. I guess for the limited amount of
MS-SQL we do here it fits the bill. As everyone else says, if we had a
dedicated SQL DBA I'm sure he/she would rather do their own thing.

-Jonathan

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To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Is Netbackup SQL Server Agent required touse
Netbackup to b

We don't use it either.

SQL admins setup the backups to go to disk - all are to occur at the
same time on all the servers
Then I have a policy to backup the SQL servers that kicks off at 2 am.
This gets the server Plus the backups to disk that occurred earlier in
the night.

Now the SQL admins get to be in charge of backups AND restores (meaning
I don't have to be involved) unless they need a copy older then what
they have on disk.
As they keep more the one copy on disk.  I think I have only done a
restore once for them.




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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Is Netbackup SQL Server Agent required to use
Netbackup to b

Kind of depends on your DBA's  [Wink] At a previous position, all of the
DBA's (Oracle, SQL and Informix) hated the idea of anything
communicating with their database that they had no control over (that
and they were cheap).

We worked with the SQL DBA to make use of user directed backups.  He
basically wrote a script to dump the data out of the SQL database and
then call bpbackup with the appropriate arguments to get the data from
local disk to tape.  Yes, there are lots of admin headaches with this
but it worked well enough for our purposes.  He would only complain
about twice a month about tape drive contention and such.

Let me know if you would like more details on how to setup the policy
and what command line arguments we used.

Tom Simerson
Sr. Systems Engineer
Sigma Solutions, Inc.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] DSSU image expiration in 6.5.6

[Martin, Jonathan]

Are you assuming that NetBackup uses the high water marks for the entire
storage group? How is this group configured (round Robin, Least used
etc...) If you have a 2TB DSSU that is 95% full, and a 920GB job is
assigned to that DSSU (instead of another DSSU) then NetBackup is going
to clear enough space to write the 920GB backup. If that 95% is a single
image, then the entire image is going to be overwritten. If that image
spans multiple DSSUs, then when it expires to clear the space, it will
expire the image from all DSSUs on which is resides. Generally I put my
"big boy" backups on their own dedicated DSSUs, and use groups for all
the "small" (<100GB) jobs into Storage Groups. Alternately, you can
break up your big jobs into smaller "chunks" with multiple streams, job,
etc... I think your problem is the Storage Unit Group. It's very
difficult to predict exactly what gets cleared when, unless you can
specifically control which job goes where.

-Jonathan
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Re: [Veritas-bu] DSSU image expiration in 6.5.6

[Martin, Jonathan]

What are you high and low water mark settings? How much disk space is
available to the DSSU, how much data is on it, and how big were any jobs
trying to write to the DSSU at the time?

-Jonathan

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Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:20 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] DSSU image expiration in 6.5.6

We have recently retried using DSSUs since we have some new very high
speed storage.  In the past we were doing D-D-T using Backups due to
staging performance.

After an image is duplicated from the DSSU to tape, the images are being
deleted even though the retention is set to two weeks.  I read
TECH66149, but it talks about the High and Low water marks.  The images
on disk are not getting anywhere to the High Water mark but the images
on disk are getting deleted anyways.

Any ideas what I can do to keep more images on disk to speed restores
[Question] 

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 system state backup errors

[Martin, Jonathan]

uEFI is a new standard for booting systems that replaces the traditional
BIOS boot. Our Dell servers toggle back and forth between BIOS and uEFI,
but once you've installed an OS in one mode or the other, you have to
wipe the disk clean to switch to the other boot methodology. I don't
know why Symantec was unaware of this change, several of our hardware
vendors notified us 2-3 years ago they were have been moving towards
uEFI. uEFI adds a hidden boot partition in the FAT32 format. This
replaces the standard MBR for BIOS. Anyhow, I'm sure Symantec will have
it figured out shortly, and you only really need to restore it for BMR.
I suppose if you were booting multiple OSs it might be nice to get back
the boot files (think grub) but this is a minor inconvenience here.

 

-Jonathan

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Chapman,
Scott
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 4:31 PM
To: 'Infantino, Joseph'; 'Preston, Douglas'; 'Veritas'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 system state backup errors

 

Having read what symantec sent to me... it sounds like a problem with
all their products...

 

Scott Chapman

Senior Technical Specialist

Storage and Database Administration

ICBC - Victoria

Ph:  250.414.7650  Cell:  250.213.9295

From: Infantino, Joseph [mailto:jinfa...@harris.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:28 PM
To: Chapman, Scott; 'Preston, Douglas'; 'Veritas'
Subject: RE: NBU7 system state backup errors

 

Is this an issue with 7.0 only or 7.0.1 also?  Just wondering because we
are about to upgrade from 6.5.6 to 7.0 to 7.0.1.

 

Thank you, 

Joseph A. Infantino II

BackUp/Recovery Administrator
HARRIS IT Services 
Assured Infrastructure Management 
Office: 321-724-3011 | Fax: 321-724-3392

Email: joseph.infant...@harris.com  

 

 

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Chapman,
Scott
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 4:03 PM
To: 'Preston, Douglas'; 'Veritas'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 system state backup errors

 

This is a known issue... and as far as I know, we are waiting for a
fix... I've got a case open about this and Symantec is working on a fix,
but is having some issues with that...

 

At this time, my windows admins are saying this isn't a huge issue since
they have to build the machine before we can restore data to it... but
I'm still waiting on the fix as I'd feel better if this was getting
backed up!

 

Scott Chapman

Senior Technical Specialist

Storage and Database Administration

ICBC - Victoria

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[Veritas-bu] NetBackup DeDupe I/O Requirements

[Martin, Jonathan]

Does anyone running NetBackup DeDupe (Media server, not dedicated puredisk) 
have any storage recommendations? We use 500GB SATA disks here as the basis for 
our DSSU / D2D2T infrastructure and I need to know if we can "convert" them to 
DeDupe storage as is, or if we need to invest in something that is more 
friendly to random I/O.

Thanks,

-Jonathan
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Major new feature in 7.x release

[Martin, Jonathan]

I'm not familiar with all the new bells and whistles but the ones we're
looking forward to testing are:

Client based deduplication.
Media Server based deduplication.
Vmware .vmdk file backup directly from ESX Host.

-Jonathan


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To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Major new feature in 7.x release

Hi
I am planning to test 7.x release. Can anybody point out any major
feature introduced in this release compare to 6.x ?
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Re: [Veritas-bu] poll: checkpoint restart

[Martin, Jonathan]

We break our large datasets into multiple streams and restart that way.
It's much easier for me to say to an app group "all of the backups
finished except /lun7 and I'm rerunning that now" than "The backup is
80% complete and we're rerunning it from wherever it failed." For
backups that run 48 hours, we just feel more comfortable knowing exactly
what backups are complete and which directories can be restored from
now, rather than hoping the whole thing completes later.

-Jonathan

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Justin
Piszcz
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:10 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] poll: checkpoint restart

Hi,

I was curious, as backups get larger and larger, how many out there are 
using checkpoint restart (yes I know it slows down the backups a bit)
but 
it saves a lot of time having to start a 2-8TB backup again from scratch

if something goes wrong (network issue or otherwise).

Is it becoming more commonplace to use this?

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Expired Backup ID Doesn't Free Up Some Space

[Martin, Jonathan]

You cannot expire individual images on a media and re-use that space.
Once a certain image has been written, NetBackup will not overwrite that
position on the media until the entire tape has expired.

-Jonathan

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From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Adrian
Soetanto
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 5:37 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Expired Backup ID Doesn't Free Up Some Space

Dear all,

I have a problem with expired backup images that are not deleted as soon
as it's expired, expecially the ones that are backed up using cartridge
volume pool (not a staging disk).
Here is the condition:
Suppose I have a volume pool named 'BMR' and all cartridges/media IDs in
it are full with multiple retention levels.
Some backup IDs that were using 'BMR' volume pool were expired a days
ago, but all media IDs in 'BMR' volume pool are still having the same
media status (full with multiple retention levels).

I can force the media ID (not the backup ID) to be expired and free it
up by using this command:
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpexpdate -m media_id -d 0
But, by using the above command, it will delete all of the backup IDs in
that media ID, which I don't want it.

What I want is to delete only certain backup IDs in a media ID and free
up some space in that media ID.
I've tried to use this command:
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpexpdate -backupid backup_id -d 0
But it doesn't free up some space in the media ID, it just expires the
backup ID.

I've waited for the 'Image Cleanup' to run and hope it will free up some
space at the above media ID.
The Image Cleanup was finished successfully, but it didn't free up some
space at the above media ID.
>From the Image Cleanup log, I guess it just free up some space at the
staging disk only, doesn't it?
If it does, then how can I force the expired backup ID to be able to
free up some space in its media ID as soon as it was expired?

Thank you for helping.

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Best Regards,
 Adrian

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Client install blows up duringtheinstall....

[Martin, Jonathan]

"Run as Administrator" is only applicable to 2008/2008R2. Even if you
have the administrator privilege, you don't use it automatically in
Windows 2008 by default. (This behavior can be turned off.) 

 

Which OS version is this client?

 

-Jonathan

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Peacock
Dennis - dpeaco
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 3:48 PM
To: w...@maine.edu; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Client install blows up
duringtheinstall

 

Wayne,

Thank you. I did open a ticket and have the server rebooted after the
NBU 5.1 was uninstalled. I'll go try the "run as administrator" but I
don't think that that will matter any since I'm on the box as an admin.
I'll also try the turning off of the A/V stuff.

 

Thank You,

Dennis Peacock

EBCA

Acxiom Corporation

501-342-6232 (office)

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Wayne T
Smith
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 2:45 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Client install blows up during
theinstall

 

Judy's recommendation to "run as administrator" is a good one.  That an
older version was uninstalled makes the hair on the back of my neck
tingle ... because of the uninstall, I recommend a Windows reboot before
installing 6.5 ... and if anything NBUish happens on the reboot, reboot
again.  Turn Anti-Virus off temporarily and try the install again.  (I
don't have a lot of Windows machines either, but these (3) actions have
allowed the NBU 6.5 install to complete for me (when it didn't on the
machine owner's first try).

 

I've had it suggested from someplace that defining a policy for the
client and opening the vnetd port (13724) first is needed, but that has
NOT been true for my cases (I usually open the firewalls after install
and define an NBU policy after that).

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Client install blows up during theinstall....

[Martin, Jonathan]

I run into this on older Windows 2000 machines. We have some ancient
image that has all the windows installer variables screwed up and I run
into it occasionally. Normally it's the Windows Installer fix for me.

Windows Installer Directory Issues:
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH33719

Windows 2008 Issues:
Right Click on Setup.exe, "Run as Administrator"

WMI Issues:
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH58010
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH47940

-Jonathan

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Peacock
Dennis - dpeaco
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 2:43 PM
To: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com; VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Client install blows up during
theinstall

Hello Judy,
I am running the install from the Windows Console. The software to be
installed in on the local machines E:\ drive and the old client was
installed in the C:\ drive. I've even had one of the domain admins try
and install it for me and he got the same exact error I did.

Thank You,
Dennis Peacock
EBCA
Acxiom Corporation
501-342-6232 (office)
 

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judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 1:40 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Client install blows up during the
install

2 options.

First, try right click and run as administrator

If that does not work.
Copy the install files to the c drive and do the install from a local
drive.

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dennis
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Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 1:38 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Windows Client install blows up during the
install

I'm trying to install NBU 6.5 Client on a Windows server. 5.1 used to be
on the box but it stopped working long ago.  During the install of the
6.5 client, I see "Installing Veritas NetBackup Client". It runs for a
bit more and then I get "The Veritas NetBackup Client install was
interrupted before it could be completed" and that's as far as I can go.

I removed the old 5.1 client to install 6.5 clean.
The old 5.1 client wasn't working any more and we have upgraded all our
boxes to 6.5.6 and I was just trying to upgrade this Windows box.
We are primarily a Unix/Linux shop...so this Windows stuff has me all
strung out.  [Wink] 

Someone has mentioned before that it could be a WMI issue (for whatever
that is) and I'm coming here to see what the collective minds have to
say here.

Master server and media servers are 6.5.6 and running on Solaris 10
boxes. ACSLS 7.1 and backups run to DSSU or VTL or to T10K tape drives.

I just want to install NBU 6.5 and patch it on this Winders
box.please help if you can.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] MS-Sql server

[Martin, Jonathan]

Launch the MS-SQL Wizard from the server and look for backups in the
last 24 hours (or whatever time frame you are interested in.) Each
database with images will be listed, as well as whether the backups are
full or transaction logs. You can also get this information from the
activity monitor. The "file list" in the child jobs looks like
/.MSSQL7..trx..~.7.001of001.20100919200348..C.
It's possible this is in the output of BPDBJOBS as well.

 

-Jonathan

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Baumann,
Kevin
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:41 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] MS-Sql server

 

All,

 

My Windows team has asked me if I can see what databases have been
backed up on a particular Windows server.  It is running MS-SQL, and
when the master server kicks off the backup it looks at a .bch script on
that server.  It looks to me like the backups work, but I cannot find a
way to say what actual databases were backed up.  Is there an easy way
to do that?

And can I assume that if I get a status 0, that all the databases in the
.bch file get backed up?

 

Linux master/media server, 6.5.6.  Client is Windows 2003 server (r2)
running MS-Sql server.

 

Thanks.

 

-Kevin

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Real World NBU Buffer settings Win2k3

[Martin, Jonathan]

Windows is a piece of cake.

 

Install the client.

Select Policy Type: Flashbackup-Windows

Setup Selection List: \\.\R  : (change drive letter as required)

Run Policy

Enjoy monumentally faster backups (on compressed volumes)

 

You cannot backup the system drive (C:) or System State with Flashbackup. I 
normally run these in a 2nd “OS” policy.

 

Be sure to test a restore. You can do “entire volume” restores, which are just 
as fast as backups. Or, you can restore individual files.

 

-Jonathan

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon 
(external)
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:08 AM
To: William Brown; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Real World NBU Buffer settings Win2k3

 

Hi William

Well it wont accept the settings, so I am going to look at:

 

1) Flash Backups

2) Try backup to disk

3) Use NTBackup

 

have a comparison to work with. I also have an Eval License of all features! 
Hooray!

Quesiton: Can anyone confirm the best way to setup Flash Backups. Running 
through the Beginners Guide now (Quick Start Guide), but need to know of any 
"gotchas"! - Just learned it cannot do system volumes.

 

S.

 



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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of William Brown
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:33 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Real World NBU Buffer settings Win2k3

We use 262144 buffer size everywhere for both NET_BUFFER_SZ and tape 
SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS (or Windows equivalent).  What I did find made a very large 
difference when I was benchmarking an LTO4 drive (which has a 4Gb FC interface) 
was switching between a 2Gb HBA and a 4Gb HBA – the throughput nearly doubled.  
That was testing with ‘dd’ not NetBackup, but was going through the (Solaris) 
OS.  So I would see if there is any way that you can up the speed, even if you 
go point-to-point and not via a SAN switch to avoid having to upgrade your 
fabric [no use if you share the drives with SSO!]

 

For Windows on FC you should find any modern FC driver will use the tape buffer 
size that you set.  64k was with the Windows scsi driver, and for some SCSI 
cards you might have to adjust the MaximumSGList in the registry – 
(http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/pipermail/veritas-bu/2006-February/083653.html) 
and (http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetPDF.aspx/5982-9971EN.pdf).  More recent 
Adaptec driver install kits I have noticed do this for you.  You should be able 
to see in the bptm log what size is being used.  The fact you say the tape 
would not mount if you change settings *is* suspicious.  Make sure you have the 
latest drive/robot settings files so your drives are properly set to variable 
block size.  Again bptm log should help.

 

If the data is compressed on disk then I assume the Windows OS is having to 
decompress on the fly as it reads the disk which is going to hit the client 
quite hard on the CPU.  Not much you can do about that, but FlashBackup would 
not have to do that so I’d say was worth trying.  Bear in mind it will back up 
the entire volume, so you don’t want to be backing up a lot of empty space 
(though paradoxically that empty space would compress nicely when it hits the 
LTO drive’s h/w compression, provided Windows is zeroing the blocks on file 
deletion…not sure if it does this or even can be made to…otherwise you have a 
great disk scavenger ;-) ).

 

William

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon 
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Sent: 15 September 2010 19:00
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Real World NBU Buffer settings Win2k3

 

Hi All 
Anyone got any real world experience on buffer settings: 

scenarion: 
Win2k3 San Media, connected to 2GB Fabric attached 8 LTO4 Drives. 
Due to drive availability, Multiplexing onto one drive. 

Main problem: One volume (1,7tb in size) takes over 4 days to fully complete. 
Got the Tuning Guide and Technote 244602, but I tried some settings, only to 
find the backup would not even mount tape correctly.

So back to "no" settings at the mo. 

Volume are generic files/folders, mixture of large and small sizes. But 1.7TB's 
in my view should be done quicker. Also Data is compressed.

Regards 

Simon 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Real World NBU Buffer settings Win2k3

[Martin, Jonathan]

Actually, Flashbackup is a life-saver on Windows compressed volumes. I have a 
400GB volume with 1.2TB of compressed data on it that used to take 36 hours to 
backup. I now move that same amount of data via flashbackup in ~3 hours.

 

-Jonathan

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:07 PM
To: Spearman, David; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Real World NBU Buffer settings Win2k3

 

Hi David

Hmmm... Thanks.

This is very interesting. And also shoots my SLA's right out of the planet into 
a Galaxy unknown to us!

 

Cannot understand how we can recover a system is 2 days, when it takes double 
to backup completely!

 

Have also mixed with Multiplexing, and no joy!

 

I dont think FlashBackups will help either, as its an array of small - medium - 
large files.

 

Oh dear :-(

Si

 



From: Spearman, David [mailto:sp...@co.henrico.va.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:05 PM
To: WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: Real World NBU Buffer settings Win2k3

Simon,

 

For what it’s worth

64kb buffer size

128 buffers

Multiplex 6

LTO4

10GB backbone/2Gb FC

I have played around with all sorts of buffer sizes but in our mixed 
environment 64 works best.

 

But 4 days for 1.7TB seems more like the norm to me. We have several servers 
verging on 1TB that can take 36 hours. 

 

David Spearman

County of Henrico

 

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Sent: 15 September, 2010 02:00 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Real World NBU Buffer settings Win2k3

 

Hi All 
Anyone got any real world experience on buffer settings: 

scenarion: 
Win2k3 San Media, connected to 2GB Fabric attached 8 LTO4 Drives. 
Due to drive availability, Multiplexing onto one drive. 

Main problem: One volume (1,7tb in size) takes over 4 days to fully complete. 
Got the Tuning Guide and Technote 244602, but I tried some settings, only to 
find the backup would not even mount tape correctly.

So back to "no" settings at the mo. 

Volume are generic files/folders, mixture of large and small sizes. But 1.7TB's 
in my view should be done quicker. Also Data is compressed.

Regards 

Simon 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Schedule in policy not running

[Martin, Jonathan]

Incrementals will not schedule if a full from the same policy is still running. 
You will have to wait, kill the last full stream, or move the incremental to 
another policy to have it auto run.

 

-Jonathan

 

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To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Schedule in policy not running

 

Hi All 
A recently migrated 5.1 SAN Media to 6.5 San Media is not playing baIll. 

Its a win2k3 6.5.4 client san media that has been fine. 

Just created a brand new policy at weekend. Full kicked in (one stream still 
running), but the Incr schedules not kicking in.

Yet, I can kick off a manual fine. 

Is there anything I can check or do from the client to check what could be 
wrong? 

All frequency based. Full frequency set to 2 days, incr set to 8 hours. 

Thanks 
Simon 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.6 client on FreeBSD 7.2 host

[Martin, Jonathan]

I've tested NDMP on 6 differetnt arrays and it has never moved millions
of small files well. We maxed out backup performance on our NetApp FAS
2xxx with 2 streams at approx 20MB/sec total.  We're hoping to test
SMTape, which purportedly does a bit level dump of the entire array.  I
haven't had a chance to test this yet, but according to NetApp it will
get us our weekly full and drive LTO3. We'll then need to put some sort
of forever incremental or snapshot backup in-between the SMTape dumps.

-Jonathan

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Nate
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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 12:22 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.6 client on FreeBSD 7.2 host

Now that we made it to 6.5.6 we're able to start testing NFS performance
from our NetApp VS NDMP. For the longest time we've done the backup of
some 1 billion small image files off the NetApp via NDMP. This job
usually took 1-3 weeks to complete a full sweep via NDMP.

Since we have support for FBSD we thought we would try doing NFS via
that client as Linux NFS is not as powerful as the BSD/Solaris variety.
Well on our initial test of a small volume from the NetApp, we're seeing
2-4MB/s performance. Confirmed via bptm log. This is going straight to
LTO4 tape, which usually backs up around 150MB/s. Logs show that the
previous NDMP jobs from the NetApp we're doing around 40MB/s direct to
two dedicated NDMP LTO4 drives.

Supposedly multiplexing for NDMP will come to NBU 7.x shortly and we
will test again with that in the future. Right now I am not multiplexing
this NFS job but while looking in bptm I don't see the usual "waited for
buffer" errors that would tell me that I _should_ increase it. Is it
still likely multiplexing would increase the overall performance here?
Is this a known issue with FBSD clients? Is there something else I
should be looking at?

-- 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Question for NetBackup 7.0 Dedup userORData Domain users

[Martin, Jonathan]

I've just recently had a meeting with my Symantec rep, and we were led to 
believe that license cost and replication were NetBackup advantages. For 
example, I was under the impression that if you backed up 10TB of data weekly, 
but kept 100 deduped copies on 40TB of storage, that you only needed 10TB of 
license. Also, we were told NetBackup dedupe maintains replication to an 
offsite media server, and that you don't have to pay for that 40TB of storage 
either.  Is this not the case? We haven't talked to Data Domain yet, but that 
licensing model looks like a serious advantage to Exagrid's $6,000 / TB.

-Jonathan

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Glazerman
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:22 AM
To: stefanos; Travis Kelley; judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com; 
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Question for NetBackup 7.0 Dedup userORData Domain 
users

Using the ddboost ost plugin from Data Domain in conjunction with Netbackup 
moves the metabase comparisons from the data domain appliance to the media 
server.  This dramatically reduces the amount of backup traffic being sent to 
the data domain and speeds up the backups considerably.

We looked at NBU 7's built in dedupe and saw ok numbers on small file, OS type 
backup data but for applications like exchange where we currently store around 
40 full copies in 1.8TB of space on our data domains, we couldn't get 4 copies 
in the same amount of space using netbackup's dedupe.  The fixed block dedupe 
algorithm of netbackups built in dedupe cannot handle large files as well as 
the variable block compression algorithms of the data domain.

Also.. from a licensing point of view we worked out it was essentially $1000 
per TB to license dedupe in Netbackup (Enterprise disk option and dedupe is 
licensed per TB).  This is something you have to factor in, especially if you 
have a large environment. Replication of this backed up data is something else 
you'd need to devise a solution for.  With data Domain,  the replication part 
is easy. 

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veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Question for NetBackup 7.0 Dedup user ORData Domain 
users

The big difference between DataDomain (and all appliances) and nebackup
deduplication option is that netbackup can do the process on the client.
This will speed up the time of the backup.
With DD and netbackup media server deduplication, nothing will change at
your backup time, as all your data will travel to the media server.

Do not listen to the companies about the deduplication ratio. Your data is
unique, and nobody can predict the ratio. 
Ask for a demo from both companies. 

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Domain users

Data domain also has a limit to the amount of data one of their units
can track but its fairly high.  If you need more than 32TB of deduped
data in PD you do need to deploy a seperate puredisk environment. Then
PD just splits the hash space into chunks and stores data on whichever
node it hases to.  I'm not sure what their upper limit is but it can
scale quite high also.

On 8/24/10, judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
 wrote:
> Remember that the built in de-dup as a limit on the amount of data it can
> keep track of.
> Over that amount you need to use a de-dup appliance.
>
>
> From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Alley,
Chris
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> To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Question for NetBackup 7.0 Dedup user OR Data Domain
> users
>
> We are looking to change our backups to a disk based deduplication
solution,
> and 2 of our options are to utilize NetBackup 7.0's built in dedupe
(Client
> and Media server) or to put a Data Domain box in.  I wanted to see if I
> could get some real world feedback on what you guys have been seeing in
> terms of dedupe rates, performance, etc.  For example Data Domain claims
we
> would only see about 5:1 dedupe rate using NetBackup, which seems quite a
> bit lower than what I would expectand of course they claim they would
> get about 20:1.  I realize that all data is different

Re: [Veritas-bu] some hosts in a policy not backing up

[Martin, Jonathan]

Do the backups run if you kick off the missing hosts manually?

This might be a corrupt policy. Have you tried recreating the policy?

-Jonathan
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 R2 client installation

[Martin, Jonathan]

Shot in the dark. Is this Windows 2008? Did you remember to
shift-right-click on the setup.exe and run as administrator? I seem to
remember getting some weird Windows Installer errors when not "running
as administrator."

 

-Jonathan

 

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Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:08 AM
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 R2 client installation

 

Hi,

 

Can somebody please help, we've tried several times to install Netbackup
6.5.6 client on the server but it keeps on failing with "windows
installer could not be accessed - code 1719", our desktop support guys
reinstalled the windows installer and rebooted the server with no luck.

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem with Restoring from Tape without having BARCODE

[Martin, Jonathan]

When you put tapes into the library without a barcode, run vmphyinv to
automatically mount each tape and inventory based on its media header.
That will fix your robot inventory issue, and make those media available
for restore. You might want to remove the media with barcodes from the
library during this operation because it takes a while to mount each
media in the library to scan the header.

-Jonathan

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Saugata
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 4:15 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Problem with Restoring from Tape without having
BARCODE

Dear All,

Recently we are having a problem while restoring DATA from old TAPE. 
We took BACKUP suing Dell Native 400/800 GB LTO 3 Tape, We used SUN C2
Autoloder with 16 Slot(It has BAR CODE Reader)

In general we used this TAPE without having a single problem, but in
last month when we user a bunch of new TAPE for taking backup, none of
those tape having BAR Code printed on it.

So, we used those tapes for taking backup, but at the time of restoring
when we re inserted the TAPE, media id getting changed every time.

For Eg. Before backup it's A00021, and the same tape while we re-insert
for restore, media id getting changed to A00022, and same thi9ng happens
on every single tape without having bar code But while using a TAPE with
Bar Code, everything went smooth. So we are failed to restored anything
from the TAPE. We are lucky enough that we found this problem on restore
drill. We don't realized this problem earlier.

So, is there any way with which we can change the Meadia ID of an old
TAPE, to restore? We need a solution, coz there are 2-3 tape we used for
Monthly backup those don't have any bar code, if any of those tape are
required for restore in future, then we will be failed.. :(

Any help will be appreciated.


Thanks
Saugata Datta

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1MP6 Storage Unit Groups

[Martin, Jonathan]

If memory serves this was a new feature in 6.5 (Maybe 6.0). 5.1 does not
behave in this manner.

-Jonathan

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1MP6 Storage Unit Groups

Do SUG's in 5.1MP6 overflow when one DSSU fills up?

example:

- job == 500MB

- storage_unit_group == dssu1, dssu2

- dssu1 == 200MB free
- dssu2 == 600mb free

In this case, will the job that is 500mb properly overflow to dssu2
which has available space? Perhaps my example is not exactly correct. I
know the behavior exists in 7.0 but I'm seeing conflicting results in
5.1MP6 where it appears the jobs are not overflowing into the other free
dssu.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Reintroduce Expired Image

[Martin, Jonathan]

Do you have a full catalog backup from before the image expired? You
could restore it to a temporary server, then run  bpimagelist -media -L
-backupid $image to find the media. That's a lot of work, but it beats
scanning 100 media to find 1.

-Jonathan

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Reintroduce Expired Image

Here's the situation,

I have a user who needed a file restored. As I checked to pull up the
file I have found that image that has his file expired only 4 days ago.

Is it possible to A) Find out what image/tape it could possible be on
and B) Reintroduce or at least retreive data from it?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU certification

[Martin, Jonathan]

Here's a start.

E) 2 - MPX is disabled by default so only one stream will write to tape.
But, the job has a parent job which is also "active", so 2.

-Jonathan

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Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 5:47 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU certification

Hi
I am preparing for test ..can any body ansere correct naswere with
explanation it each ?
A. Which media management device process must be running to display
drive properties, such as it name, host, and type?
 avrd
 bptm
 oprd
 ltid

B. Your backup plan includes the backup of Microsoft SQL Server 2000.
You must define an "open window" for which types of schedule in
NetBackup 6.5?
 SQL Policy type
 Schedule-based
 Both calendar-based and frequency-based
 Neither schedule requires an open window

C. In which order should you run NetBackup LiveUpdate?
 Media servers first, then master servers, and then clients
 Clients first, then master servers, and then media servers
 Master servers first, then media servers, and then clients
 The order in which you run NetBackup LiveUpdate is not important
  Don't know

D. Which of the following does the Maximum Partially Full (MPF) setting
limit?
 The maximum number of volumes that can be partially full for all volume
pools
 The maximum number of volumes in a volume pool that can be
concurrently used, at the same retention level
 The maximum number of volumes that can be drawn from the scratch pool
 The maximum number of slots in a tape library filled with resident
media
  Don't know

E. Given the following scenario about a policy with a single client:
Allow Multiple Data Streams is enabled.
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES is specified.
One tape drive is available in the storage unit.
MPX for the storage unit is set to the default value.
Max Jobs per Client is set to 5.
Media Multiplexing in the Schedule is set to 5.
The client specified has five local file systems with no exclude list.

How many backup jobs will be active (versus queued) after the policy
successfully initiates?
1
2
3
5
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Re: [Veritas-bu] netbackup 7 alternate client restore

[Martin, Jonathan]

How about dropping the No.Restrictions touch file into db\altnames\ for
a quick fix?

-Jonathan

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Jerald
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] netbackup 7 alternate client restore

linux master/media:  there is no netbackup/db/altnames directory to
allow alternate client browse/restores. anybody know right off where it
is configured or how it is allowed?  i can look it up monday morning in
the manuals, but was trying to do a quick restore this afternoon.

thanks,
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup

[Martin, Jonathan]

I assumed since someone mentioned CIFS that we were talking about file
servers. I don't mean to disparage NetApp or Sun. I've had no issues
pushing 100+MB/sec from my filers with large files. However, I'm in the
untenable position of having a 20-30Kb average file size which
necessitates creative backup solutions. I've had success in this
scenario running multiple streams.

 

-Jonathan

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:55 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup

 

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Martin, Jonathan
 wrote:

We get poor performance (4MB/sec) performance running NFS mounts on our
FAS 2040, but we've found we can run many simultaneous streams and get
that into the 20+MB/sec range. We've got one Sun device we run 16
simultaneous NFS streams on that pushes 30MB/sec. Have you tried hitting
multiple mounts with individual streams at the same time to get better
CIFS performance?


We did some testing of VMware accessing our FAS3140 via NFS and
benchmarked a guest at 340MB/sec over port-channeled 10GigE connections
using jumbo frames. And that was to 1 head in the 3140 cluster.

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup

[Martin, Jonathan]

We get poor performance (4MB/sec) performance running NFS mounts on our
FAS 2040, but we've found we can run many simultaneous streams and get
that into the 20+MB/sec range. We've got one Sun device we run 16
simultaneous NFS streams on that pushes 30MB/sec. Have you tried hitting
multiple mounts with individual streams at the same time to get better
CIFS performance?

 

-Jonathan

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Shawn
Plummer
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 11:37 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup

 

 

We used to get HORRIBLE (8MB/s ish) performance doing CIFS backups of
our NetApp filer, and I was pretty sure Symantec recommended against
doing our backups that way (this was 3 years ago or so). We do backup
exclusively to tape though so maybe that makes the difference.

 

Also I didn't think NTFS permissions were restored correctly when using
CIFs shares as your backup source.

 

~

Shawn Plummer

Systems Manager

CIT SUNY Geneseo

"The mind can make substance, and people planets of its own with beings
brighter than have been, and give a breath to forms which can outlive
all flesh." -Lord Byron

 

On Jul 27, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Ed Wilts wrote:





On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Len Boyle  wrote:

With the new backup support for what was called pure disk the backup
data is going to disk and only the changed blocks. But if I understand
things the netapp would have to have code installed on it that would
understand the pure disk api. 

What Symantec is actually recommending now is to use a traditional Unix
or Windows client and NFS-mount or CIFS-mount the data.  Then do your
normal backups to a PureDisk storage unit and do continuous incrementals
and synthetic fulls.  With the new PD code, a synthetic full only does
pointer changes so they got like a bat out of...

As an extra bonus, because you're using a non-NDMP client, you can
restore the file to anywhere, not just the same NDMP type of host that
you started from.  

As a double-added bonus, a Unix or Windows license (list $2,595 to
$6,095 for x86/x64 clients) is a LOT cheaper than  an NDMP license,
especially if you a have big filer (list $3,500 to $15,500).  

The de-dupe option is VERY pricey though at $5k per front-end TB (MSRP).
In our environment, we're about 180TB of used space at the moment.  The
list price of backup it all up with de-dupe would top a million bucks
with the media servers and the de-dupe licenses.  And that doesn't
include the disk to put it to.

   .../Ed

Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Nbu 7.0

[Martin, Jonathan]

I have a test 6.5.6. master running on CentOS. Simmilar to Jeff's
scenario, I had to drop a "real" redhat version file into
/usr/openv/netbackup before some of the patches would install, but it
runs now without issue. This is not production, but it does work just
fine.

 

As far as CentOS in the datacenter, two of our most recent acquisitions
run CentOS exclusively. As with most decisions, I assume they examined
their options, balanced the risks and rewards, and made an educated
decision. Neither ran NetBackup (before I deployed our standard Windows
master.)

 

-Jonathan

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
Lightner, Jeff
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:07 AM
To: JC Cheney; Ed Wilts
Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Nbu 7.0

 

As to not running on CentOS - The only thing I know of off the top of my
head that blows up on install is Oracle products but that is simply
because they put a routine in that tells it which OSes they're allowed
to run on.   You can certainly run Oracle products on CentOS
(unsupported by Oracle of course) by simply tweaking the file that
stores which OSes are allowed OR by modifying the /etc/redhat-release
file to make it say it is one of the supported RedHat versions.

 

Of course in my post I did also say that running CentOS as your master
server is a bad idea even if you could make it run due to support
issues.  

 

I'd disagree with what you say about the release cycle of CentOS - since
its releases are tied to RHEL's it has the same release cycle (delayed
somewhat).   However, I'm not suggesting it should be supported by
Symantec or any other vendor.  

 

Here we run RHEL for 95% of our Linux needs (and 100% of our Production
Linux needs).   We have CentOS and Debian installs for very specific one
off systems or workstations.   It is fine to say to the user "it might
work, but it will be unsupported" but to try to pretend there is some
inherent badness in other distros as opposed to RHEL isn't appropriate
in my view.   I know of one Atlanta based cable network that runs
Ubuntu/MySQL for most of what they do in the Linux arena (including web
servers) where they formerly ran HP-UX (UNIX).  The folks there wouldn't
be caught dead running RHEL or any RPM based distro.

 



From: JC Cheney [mailto:joseph_che...@symantec.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:50 AM
To: Ed Wilts; Lightner, Jeff
Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Nbu 7.0

 

Not tested. To compile and maintain the client code is a relatively
simple process; to compile / test / qualify all of the media and master
server functionality is a huge undertaking. 

 

It's not just a matter of "compile it and see if it runs". You have to
test all of the supported peripherals such as robots, tape drives,
storage arrays, etc. and then try to maintain this on a platform that is
built by a group of volunteers around the world making who know's what
changes?

 

People such as Redhat and SusE have very well defined hardware
qualification plans and detailed release cycles; this is just not the
case with CentOS.

 

Add to this that there are relatively few people who use CentOS in a
datacentre environment (compared to Redhat or SuSE that is) and it
quickly becomes commercially unviable.

 

 

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: 14 July 2010 20:15
To: Lightner, Jeff
Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Nbu 7.0

 

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Lightner, Jeff 
wrote:

CentOS is compiled from RHEL source and is intended to have full binary
compatibility with RHEL.


Intended - yes
In practice - mostly

There are cases out there where applications intended to run on a RHEL
distro will not install without modifications.  The distributions,
although based on the same sources, are not the same.  There are
applications out there TODAY that won't install or run correctly on
CentOS but will install and run correctly on RHEL.

RHEL is not self-hosting - in other words, it's possible that the
binaries you get can not be built with the sources you get.  That's
happened in the past due to compiler bugs but I haven't heard of it
happening lately.  

CentOS, as a client, is supported by Symantec according to the current
compatibility list at
ftp://exftpp.symantec.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Serv
er/337048.pdf.  It's not supported as a master or media server.  We
don't know if it's because they tested it and it failed, or if they
tested it, it worked but they don't want to support it, or they simply
didn't test it.

In general, I would expect that you could make a NBU 7 master install on
CentOS and it would likely work. It will not be supported by anybody.  

Depending on the tier of the hardware that you're running the master
server on,

Re: [Veritas-bu] Library inventory with vmupdate from cron every hour

[Martin, Jonathan]

I use the following command every 30 minutes on several Windows 5.1, 6.0
and 6.5 Masters without issue. If the robot happens to be offline the
task fails without issue. I've never had an issue with inventories and
normal operations.

vmupdate -rt tld -rn 0 -use_barcode_rules

-Jonathan

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Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:51 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Library inventory with vmupdate from cron every
hour

Dear All,
I want to setup a cron job to inventory tapes every hour (to exclude
this task from the scope of work of the personnel doing the tape
swaps).


Please see the quote from Backup Central NetBackup FAQ "How do I
inventory my library?" at
http://www.backupcentral.com/components/com_mambowiki/index.php/How_do_I
_inventory_my_library%3F

== start of quote
i've used this command from cron for a few years in nbu 3.4 to 5.1:
/usr/openv/volmgr/bin/vmupdate -rn 0 -rt tld -rh akcux02 where tld is
the library name abd akcux02 is the host name.


My question: do you think NetBackup will be able to resolve any
conflicts if cron initiated inventory happens at the same time as the
normal tape operations initiated by NetBackup?

We are running 6.5.6 on RH Linux 5

Thank you,
Aleksandr
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Copy ???////?/

[Martin, Jonathan]

If you enable compression after x number of days on a windows master then 
NetBackup compresses the catalog entries using NTFS compression after x days. 
(as opposed to gziping on Unix/Linux.) I didn’t really get anything working.  I 
just compress everything for my “warm” DR (robo)copy. Basically, I do it to 
save space on the DR end.

 

-Jonathan

 

From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net] 
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:12 AM
To: Martin, Jonathan; pranav batra; Veritas
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Copy ????/

 

Hi Jonathan

I thought Symantec did not support compressed volumes on a Catalog? But good to 
hear you got it working.

Simon

 



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:41 PM
To: pranav batra; Veritas
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Copy ????/

I tried to find  a tool that retained compression on a per-file basis to 
perform a catalog migration but I could not find one.  I considered custom 
writing my own in .net but never got around to it. 

 

Why not simply compress the entire DR volume? You’ll take a slight performance 
hit come DR time, but you probably don’t need the entire catalog at that point 
anyway.  I only copy the last 3 weeks of backups to DR for hot restores.  The 
rest of the images will be restored cold from the most recent catalog backup. I 
use the following command run from a scheduled task on my masters.

 

robocopy "D:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\db\images"  /S /ZB 
/PURGE /MAXAGE:21 /TBD /R:3 /W:3 /LOG: /XD tmp

 

Be sure to exclude tmp folders, these are where running backups write their 
image files. If you try to robocopy an image that is being generated you will 
kill the backup. Once the image is complete, it will be moved to the 
appropriate subfolder.

 

Btw, I’ve tested this numerous times in DR scenarios and it has never failed.

 

-Jonathan

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of pranav batra
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:51 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Copy ????/

 

 

Hello Geeks,

 

Need help on one issue.

 

 

We have a catalog of aroung 250 gb.

Its on a F drive which is coming from SAN.

This drive is composed of 3 luns.

 

Now for DR purpose we want the data to copy from this drive to another drive 
that will be composed of a single lun of 300 Gb.

 

Now we used a robocopy method to copy this data:-But this has  a bug that it 
does not retain the compression of files.

 

What other method you suggest to copy the data to other drive?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Thanks and Regards
Pranav Batra






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Re: [Veritas-bu] SAN Switch Change caused NBU7 to lose tape drives

[Martin, Jonathan]

Just a shot in the dark here, but is it possible the old drives are
hidden because of the path changes? You can check using this support
article. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315539 Also, have you run the
TUR fix for your fiber tape drives?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/842411

-Jonathan



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] SAN Switch Change caused NBU7 to lose tape drives


Hi everyone,

In one of my environments we replaced our old SAN switch with a new
Cisco. We went from 1 fabric on the old switch to 2 fabrics on the new
Cisco switch.

We split up the tape drives 1, 2, 3, 4 on Fabric A. 5,6,7,8,9 on Fabric
B.

After this switch, our media servers are having enormous trouble seeing
the tape drives at all. One media server see's 6 tape drives which makes
no sense at all. One media server see's all 9. Another media server
see's 7.

No rhyme or reason to any of it. Why would a switch change cause this?

Our zone's have been thoroughly checked multiple times. Each tape drive
is presented to the media servers, I assure you.

One of our Windows media servers see's only 6 tape drives in Device
Manager, but San Surfer shows that the HBA see's all 9

A Solaris 9 media server see's 9 tape drives, but netbackup only see's
7.

So, what do you guys think could be going on? Do I need to do something
to the HBA's like reset, so they forget the previous paths? Could tape
drivers be the potential issue, can tape drivers cause an issue with 1
switch over another? I am completely out of ideas so im throwing random
ideas out... Anyone??

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Performance tuning Windows 2008 client

[Martin, Jonathan]

Are you hitting multiple VMs simultaneously on the same datastore? Is
the speed better when you only run one backup at a time? We've
identified serious performance issues related to requesting to many
random I/Os from a raid group as the same time. Backing up multiple VMs
and rebooting multiple VMs on the same datastore can cause serious
latency spikes. Latency is a bit tricky to track down, but if you open
the VC, increase metrics gather to maximum, and select the host the VM
is on you can see the latency for any given lun. Anything sustained
higher than 20ms is a performance problem waiting to happen. Ideally we
shoot for <10ms.

 

Let me know if you need more information or help tracking down these
metrics.

 

-Jonathan

 

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Performance tuning Windows 2008 client

 


> Do these contain lots and lots of little files?  If so, have you
considered FlashBackup? 

The backup is 19GB over 35,000 files.  That's pretty typical.  It took
17 hours to run.  That's not typical.  We hope to upgrade to NBU7 later
this year and take advantage of the new features for backing up VMs 

> Do you have enough memory on these guests.  We've seen some issues
where one of our VMware admins decided to give all of the new guests
VERY little memory,
forgetting that after he provisioned the guest he was supposed to
increase it to a reasonable size.

The guests all have 4GB memory. 

> If you do network exerciser from the guest to the media server, what
sort of performance do you get?  For example, have you tried something
like an FTP or a simple
file copy directly from the guest to the media server? 

I copied a folder containing 215MB of files from the guest to the media
server.  It took nearly two minutes.  A lot slower than I'd have
expected for a 1Gb LAN, so to have a basis of comparason, I copied 206MB
of files from a 2k8 server running on bare metal to the same media
server, and that copy took about half the time.  Not stellar
performance, but still better than the VM.  This is all repeatable. 

What I've observed is that at the start of the backup, we get good
performance, but it slows after 20 minutes or so.  The activity also
seems to happen in bursts with periods of good speeds followed by
periods of poor performance. 

I'm a UNIX administrator by trade, so troubleshooting Windows issues is
a bit foreign to me.

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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:28 AM,  wrote: 

We're observing some significant performance issues with some of our
Windows 2008 SP2 clients.   
Backing up to a DD880 VTL, one client in particular is running at just
over 300KB/sec.  Others are running 2-3MB/sec.   
The clients in question are all virtual machines running on VMWare ESX
3.5.0 238493.  Our Windows 2008 clients running on bare metal are
performing well.
Our NetBackup environment is version 6.5.3 on the master/media server
and the client. 

We've tried tuning the net buffer size, but that made no difference.
Are there other things we can try? 

Do these contain lots and lots of little files?  If so, have you
considered FlashBackup?
Do you have enough memory on these guests.  We've seen some issues where
one of our VMware admins decided to give all of the new guests VERY
little memory,
forgetting that after he provisioned the guest he was supposed to
increase it to a reasonable size.

If you do network exerciser from the guest to the media server, what
sort of performance do you get?  For example, have you tried something
like an FTP or a simple
file copy directly from the guest to the media server?

   .../Ed

Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE 
ewi...@ewilts.org 
Linkedin   

  

We have a case open with Symantec, but I thought I'd check here to see
if anyone else has run into this issue.
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Sr. Data Protection Administrator 
Global Technology Services - AHS
Mylan, Inc.
5005 Greenbag Road
Morgantown, WV 26501 

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