[Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 client

2008-05-28 Thread Deiter, Scott
We are still struggling with the upgrade from 5.1 mp4 to 6.5.

In the mean time.  Will a windows 2008 client run on version 5.1 mp4 ?

 
 

Scott Deiter
System Administrator
Hanover Direct, Inc.
Hanover, PA
Voice: 717-633-3298



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[Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

2008-08-19 Thread Randy Samora


I'm at 6.0 and was really hoping to upgrade to 6.5.1 next week and not
very anxious to go to 6.5.2 just yet from what I'm reading.  The server
team decided to start rolling out 2008 Server servers without checking
for compatibility so now I have clients I can't backup.  Is there any
other way besides upgrading to .2 to resolve this?

Thanks,

Randy

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 client

2008-05-28 Thread smpt
Only with NBU 6.5.2

For 5.1 support will stop at 31/8/2008

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We are still struggling with the upgrade from 5.1 mp4 to 6.5.

In the mean time.  Will a windows 2008 client run on version 5.1 mp4 ?

 
 

Scott Deiter
System Administrator
Hanover Direct, Inc.
Hanover, PA
Voice: 717-633-3298



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 client

2008-05-28 Thread mkgunderson
>From what I have heard (below), Windows 2008 x64 clients support will 
begin with 6.5.2.  As far as trying to run a Windows 2008 client on 5.1 
MP4, I have not tried that since we migrated all of our masters and media 
servers to 6.5.1 and went to 6.0 MP5 from 5.1 MP5 before that.



Symantec Corporation intends to deliver support for Microsoft Windows 
Server 2008 in NetBackup 6.5.
Microsoft will launch Windows Server 2008 (WS2008) in late February 2008. 
For launch details, see
www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008.


In 6.5.2, planned for CY2Q08, initial NetBackup support will include:
.. x64 client and agents for Exchange, SharePoint, and SQL Server
.. x64 media server for the majority of currently supported WS2003 x64 
devices
.. x64 client support for Microsoft Cluster Server 2008
.. BasicDisk media server option
.. AdvancedDisk media server option
.. SSO ? Shared Storage Option
.. NOM ? NetBackup Operations Manager


In 6.5.3, planned for CY4Q08, additional NetBackup support will include:
.. x86 and IA-64 clients
.. x64 agents for DB2, Lotus Notes, SAP, Sybase, and Oracle
.. x64 snapshot client
.. x64 media server for any remaining x64 devices
.. x64 media server support for Microsoft Cluster Server 2008
.. x64 client and media server support for Veritas Cluster Server
.. NetBackup for VMware
.. SAN Client
.. SharedDisk media server option
.. NBAC ? NetBackup Access Control
.. New ? NetBackup agent for Hyper-V virtual machine protection
.. New ? NetBackup agent for Active Directory

The NetBackup 6.5.x master server will not be available on WS2008. As 
always, the 6.5.x master server can
be any supported platform (Windows 2003, UNIX, Linux, etc.) and must be 
the same version as or newer than
the client and media server version.
The various NetBackup compatibility listings will be updated later 
regarding WS2008 support and posted at
http://go.symantec.com/nbu. See the ?Compatibility List? menu and select 
version ?6.5?.




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Michael K. Gunderson
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3M Storage Management
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[Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 client


We are still struggling with the upgrade from 5.1 mp4 to 6.5.

In the mean time.  Will a windows 2008 client run on version 5.1 mp4 ?

 
 

Scott Deiter
System Administrator
Hanover Direct, Inc. 
Hanover, PA 
Voice: 717-633-3298




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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 client

2008-05-29 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Scott
I am not sure its supported for 5.1 afraid :( In fact it may only be
supported on 6.5

Simon 

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We are still struggling with the upgrade from 5.1 mp4 to 6.5.

In the mean time.  Will a windows 2008 client run on version 5.1 mp4 ?

 
 

Scott Deiter
System Administrator
Hanover Direct, Inc.
Hanover, PA
Voice: 717-633-3298



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

2008-08-19 Thread Clausen, Matt R [EQ]
I doubt it. The OS Compatibility Matrix says that for Windows 2008, the minimum 
client is 6.5.2... Now, you MIGHT be able to use 6.5.1, but I doubt it. I'm 
pretty sure that there will be code changes introduced with the 6.5.2 client 
that allows it to work under Windows 2008. If you have a dev-box around 
somewhere though that's Windows 2008 you can try the 6.5.1 client there to see 
if it works.


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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client


I'm at 6.0 and was really hoping to upgrade to 6.5.1 next week and not very 
anxious to go to 6.5.2 just yet from what I'm reading.  The server team decided 
to start rolling out 2008 Server servers without checking for compatibility so 
now I have clients I can't backup.  Is there any other way besides upgrading to 
.2 to resolve this?
Thanks,
Randy

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

2008-08-19 Thread Martin, Jonathan
What I've heard is that the 6.5.1 client won't properly backup the
system registry and cannot restore the system into a bootable state
because it doesn't understand the lack of a boot.ini.  From what little
testing I did here backups work but not restores.  YMMV but I wouldn't
put anything important out there unless you are sure you can restore.
 
Other suggestions: Use snapshot technologies to pickup the data (VCB,
SAN etc..) or use Microsoft's Data Protection Manager to backup the
files to a fileshare and pick them up from there as .bkf files.  Its
dirty but it works.
 
-Jonathan



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I'm at 6.0 and was really hoping to upgrade to 6.5.1 next week and not
very anxious to go to 6.5.2 just yet from what I'm reading.  The server
team decided to start rolling out 2008 Server servers without checking
for compatibility so now I have clients I can't backup.  Is there any
other way besides upgrading to .2 to resolve this?

Thanks,

Randy

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

2008-08-19 Thread Randy Samora
There's no harm in testing, thanks.  I bet the server team will check
with me first next time.  Yeah, right!

 

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To: Randy Samora; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: Windows 2008 Client

 

I doubt it. The OS Compatibility Matrix says that for Windows 2008, the
minimum client is 6.5.2... Now, you MIGHT be able to use 6.5.1, but I
doubt it. I'm pretty sure that there will be code changes introduced
with the 6.5.2 client that allows it to work under Windows 2008. If you
have a dev-box around somewhere though that's Windows 2008 you can try
the 6.5.1 client there to see if it works.

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client



I'm at 6.0 and was really hoping to upgrade to 6.5.1 next week and not
very anxious to go to 6.5.2 just yet from what I'm reading.  The server
team decided to start rolling out 2008 Server servers without checking
for compatibility so now I have clients I can't backup.  Is there any
other way besides upgrading to .2 to resolve this?

Thanks,

Randy

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

2008-08-19 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Martin, Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>  From what little testing I did here backups work but not restores.
>

That doesn't sound very useful :-)

It sounds to me like even if you did testing and it appeared to work, do you
really, really want your production servers to have an unsupported backup
configuration?

It also sounds like if you only want to back on non-OS files, you'll be
okay.  You just need to have another plan if you wipe out the system disk.

.../Ed


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

2008-08-19 Thread Jeff Lightner
Backups directed to /dev/null would be incredibly fast and just as
useful.  :-)

 



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On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Martin, Jonathan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From what little testing I did here backups work but not
restores. 


That doesn't sound very useful :-)

It sounds to me like even if you did testing and it appeared to work, do
you really, really want your production servers to have an unsupported
backup configuration?
   
It also sounds like if you only want to back on non-OS files, you'll be
okay.  You just need to have another plan if you wipe out the system
disk.
 

.../Ed 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

2008-08-19 Thread Randy Samora
That doesn't look like a Windows device.  No hablo linux-o!

 

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Backups directed to /dev/null would be incredibly fast and just as
useful.  J

 



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On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Martin, Jonathan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From what little testing I did here backups work but not
restores. 


That doesn't sound very useful :-)

It sounds to me like even if you did testing and it appeared to work, do
you really, really want your production servers to have an unsupported
backup configuration?
   
It also sounds like if you only want to back on non-OS files, you'll be
okay.  You just need to have another plan if you wipe out the system
disk.
 

.../Ed 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

2008-08-19 Thread Cornely, David
Although it's not supported, you could try installing the 6.5.2 client
and testing backups with your 6.0 master.

I've seen this before with 5.0 master and 6.0 clients.  Again not
supported but it did work where I was at the time and bridged the gap
until the master was upgraded to 6.0.

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

 



I'm at 6.0 and was really hoping to upgrade to 6.5.1 next week and not
very anxious to go to 6.5.2 just yet from what I'm reading.  The server
team decided to start rolling out 2008 Server servers without checking
for compatibility so now I have clients I can't backup.  Is there any
other way besides upgrading to .2 to resolve this?

Thanks,

Randy

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

2008-08-19 Thread Randy Samora
All of these are great ideas and at the very least, worth testing.

 

Thanks everyone.

 

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Although it's not supported, you could try installing the 6.5.2 client
and testing backups with your 6.0 master.

I've seen this before with 5.0 master and 6.0 clients.  Again not
supported but it did work where I was at the time and bridged the gap
until the master was upgraded to 6.0.

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

 



I'm at 6.0 and was really hoping to upgrade to 6.5.1 next week and not
very anxious to go to 6.5.2 just yet from what I'm reading.  The server
team decided to start rolling out 2008 Server servers without checking
for compatibility so now I have clients I can't backup.  Is there any
other way besides upgrading to .2 to resolve this?

Thanks,

Randy

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

2008-08-19 Thread Brendan Clover
We have done a lot of testing on Windows 2008 and found that yes even a
5.1 MP6 client will backup the server but will not restore anything.  

You need the 6.5.2 client on the Windows 2008 server however your
media/master servers can run on a downrev version, we only run 6.5.1 on
our media and master servers as well as the 6.5.1 client on our
2003/linux/solaris servers.

Personally I would be leaving 2008 on the shelf at the moment it needs a
service pack or two


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Backups directed to /dev/null would be incredibly fast and just as
useful.  :-)

 



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On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Martin, Jonathan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From what little testing I did here backups work but not
restores. 


That doesn't sound very useful :-)

It sounds to me like even if you did testing and it appeared to work, do
you really, really want your production servers to have an unsupported
backup configuration?
   
It also sounds like if you only want to back on non-OS files, you'll be
okay.  You just need to have another plan if you wipe out the system
disk.
 

.../Ed 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

2008-08-20 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Hi randy
I think 6.5.2 is the latest to support Win2k8
 
Simon



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I'm at 6.0 and was really hoping to upgrade to 6.5.1 next week and not
very anxious to go to 6.5.2 just yet from what I'm reading.  The server
team decided to start rolling out 2008 Server servers without checking
for compatibility so now I have clients I can't backup.  Is there any
other way besides upgrading to .2 to resolve this?

Thanks,

Randy

 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

2008-08-20 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Randy
Like me, probably find out that something is implemented, and you need
an agent to do an online backup, or discover (like you have) that Win2k8
isnt supported on the current platform!
 
Backups seem to be the last thing people think about when implementing
new solutions :(
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There's no harm in testing, thanks.  I bet the server team will check
with me first next time.  Yeah, right!

 

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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:22 PM
To: Randy Samora; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: Windows 2008 Client

 

I doubt it. The OS Compatibility Matrix says that for Windows 2008, the
minimum client is 6.5.2... Now, you MIGHT be able to use 6.5.1, but I
doubt it. I'm pretty sure that there will be code changes introduced
with the 6.5.2 client that allows it to work under Windows 2008. If you
have a dev-box around somewhere though that's Windows 2008 you can try
the 6.5.1 client there to see if it works.

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client



I'm at 6.0 and was really hoping to upgrade to 6.5.1 next week and not
very anxious to go to 6.5.2 just yet from what I'm reading.  The server
team decided to start rolling out 2008 Server servers without checking
for compatibility so now I have clients I can't backup.  Is there any
other way besides upgrading to .2 to resolve this?

Thanks,

Randy

 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

2008-08-20 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

You could use the "Internal" Win2k8 backup system, and locate the backup
file to disk, and the NetBackup client could then backup to tape!
 
Ok, not the best way, but a supported work around
 
Simon



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On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Martin, Jonathan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


From what little testing I did here backups work but not
restores. 


That doesn't sound very useful :-)

It sounds to me like even if you did testing and it appeared to work, do
you really, really want your production servers to have an unsupported
backup configuration?
   
It also sounds like if you only want to back on non-OS files, you'll be
okay.  You just need to have another plan if you wipe out the system
disk.
 

.../Ed 



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