Re: Disable auto syncing with repo

2009-06-26 Thread Kevin Powick

On Jun 25, 6:16 pm, Alberto Ganesh Barbati 
wrote:

> Try having dozens of bookmarks to open source projects all around the
> world and a slow internet connection.

Thank you for the suggestion, but you did not answer my question.  Is
there a performance penalty, or am I to assume this from your reply?
Perhaps you could provide a list of Internet based repositories that I
can bookmark so I can implement your suggestion and determine for
myself what could have been easily answered by anyone experiencing the
issues alluded to by the original poster.

> It doesn't depend on how long you use Versions. It depends on how you
> use it, on the speed of the servers and on the quality of your
> connection to them.

Of course. I was merely trying to imply that the longer you use a
product, the more likely you are to experience various aspects of its
features, performance, etc.

> Another case: there are a few (but not all) repositories on extremely
> slow servers. Now you can either disable all badges, therefore losing
> a nice feature on all fast servers, or be stuck updating the badge
> from the slow servers, which may unnecessarily slow down your job. In
> this scenario the "don't update what you don't see" feature mitigates
> the problem but doesn't really solve it.

Is there a difference between updating a repository with a slow
connection verses one with no connection?  I have several repos
bookmarked to which I can only connect when I am at a specific
location, and this does not seem to affect the performance of Versions
at all.

If the updating of repository badges from slow connections does affect
the overall performance of Versions, perhaps this aspect of the
product could be handled by worker threads, leaving the main
application responsive?

--
Kevin Powick

Since I have several bookmarked repositories to which I can only
connect

>
> Ganesh
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Re: Disable auto syncing with repo

2009-06-25 Thread Alberto Ganesh Barbati

On 25 Giu, 22:56, Kevin Powick  wrote:
> On Jun 24, 6:49 pm, asidden  wrote:
>
> > I have several bookmarks for different repos and when i launch
> > Versions.app - all of that are connected, even the ones i haven't used
> > for a long time.
>
> Out of curiosity, why is this a problem?  Does it introduce some type
> of performance penalty?

Try having dozens of bookmarks to open source projects all around the
world and a slow internet connection.

> I've only been using Versions for a couple of months, so perhaps I
> have yet to experience the implications of the situation you describe.

It doesn't depend on how long you use Versions. It depends on how you
use it, on the speed of the servers and on the quality of your
connection to them.

> However, I agree with Dirk that I would not want the extra overhead of
> enabling/disabling various bookmarks, plus having to understand
> additional visual status indicators.  It would probably not be a big
> deal if implemented, but why do so if it's really unnecessary?

Another case: there are a few (but not all) repositories on extremely
slow servers. Now you can either disable all badges, therefore losing
a nice feature on all fast servers, or be stuck updating the badge
from the slow servers, which may unnecessarily slow down your job. In
this scenario the "don't update what you don't see" feature mitigates
the problem but doesn't really solve it.

Ganesh

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Re: Disable auto syncing with repo

2009-06-25 Thread Kevin Powick

On Jun 24, 6:49 pm, asidden  wrote:

> I have several bookmarks for different repos and when i launch
> Versions.app - all of that are connected, even the ones i haven't used
> for a long time.

Out of curiosity, why is this a problem?  Does it introduce some type
of performance penalty?

I've only been using Versions for a couple of months, so perhaps I
have yet to experience the implications of the situation you describe.

However, I agree with Dirk that I would not want the extra overhead of
enabling/disabling various bookmarks, plus having to understand
additional visual status indicators.  It would probably not be a big
deal if implemented, but why do so if it's really unnecessary?

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Re: Disable auto syncing with repo

2009-06-25 Thread Alberto Ganesh Barbati

On 25 Giu, 17:18, Dirk Stoop  wrote:
> The way to do this right now, is to group several bookmarks in a
> folder and collapse it in the bookmarks list.
>
> Any indicators that aren't visible will not be updated.

Really? Actually I think I read on this forum (surely not from you)
exactly the opposite. This is very good, actually. I wish it was
written more clearly in the docs or be advertised more strongly as I
was totally unaware of that feature although I'm using Versions for
more than six months. I am already used to organize bookmarks in
folders, yet I decided to disable badges long time ago in fear of
having all of them updated (including the hidden ones).

Ganesh

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Re: Disable auto syncing with repo

2009-06-25 Thread Dirk Stoop

The way to do this right now, is to group several bookmarks in a
folder and collapse it in the bookmarks list.

Any indicators that aren't visible will not be updated.

This may seem convoluted, since many people will want to organize
their bookmarks by category (like e.g. applications, frameworks and
websites) and not by groups of repositories that belong to one catgory
of work they do.

A major drawback of offering an active/inactive-toggle per bookmark is
that it adds an additional layer of administrative work to dealing
with bookmarks that (I think) most Versions users don't need. It's
easy to forget that which bookmarks are active, so we would have to
indicate their active/inactive status in the bookmarks list itself
(one idea: by graying out the icons when inactive. another one: do
something similar to what Mail.app does to indicate an account is
offline, but that's way too much clutter imho.). Regardless of what
kind of indication we go for, this feature will require us to add some
extra visual clutter to the bookmarks list.

All that being said, we'll look into this. :)

Cheers,
- Dirk

the Versions team

On Jun 25, 11:06 am, Alberto Ganesh Barbati 
wrote:
> +1 on that
>
> On 25 Giu, 00:49, asidden  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi all!
>
> > Is there any way to make Versions temporary disable auto connection to
> > the specified bookmark?
> > I have several bookmarks for different repos and when i launch
> > Versions.app - all of that are connected, even the ones i haven't used
> > for a long time. Probably this will be a good idea to add "active/non-
> > active" states for bookmarks?
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Re: Disable auto syncing with repo

2009-06-25 Thread Alberto Ganesh Barbati

+1 on that

On 25 Giu, 00:49, asidden  wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Is there any way to make Versions temporary disable auto connection to
> the specified bookmark?
> I have several bookmarks for different repos and when i launch
> Versions.app - all of that are connected, even the ones i haven't used
> for a long time. Probably this will be a good idea to add "active/non-
> active" states for bookmarks?
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Disable auto syncing with repo

2009-06-24 Thread asidden

Hi all!

Is there any way to make Versions temporary disable auto connection to
the specified bookmark?
I have several bookmarks for different repos and when i launch
Versions.app - all of that are connected, even the ones i haven't used
for a long time. Probably this will be a good idea to add "active/non-
active" states for bookmarks?

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