Re: BBEdit 9.1 update + show diff

2009-02-12 Thread Paul Willis

On 11 Feb 2009, at 19:37, Quinn Taylor wrote:

 I agree with others who suggested in essence that anyone serious
 enough to be using Subversion will have the BBEdit's command tools
 installed.

 I use Subversion seriously, but don't use BBEdit as my primary  
 editor, and don't recall whether I have the tools installed or not.  
 You're welcome to love BBEdit, but assuming that everyone else  
 thinks it's the bee's knees in a way that could cause problems if  
 the tools aren't installed isn't wise. There may certainly be a  
 better solution than the current one, but assuming use of a third- 
 party commercial product doesn't seem like it.

You've taken AlanR's comment out of context. The discussion is about  
people who are using BBEdit for diff and how Versions should access  
it. AlanR is saying that people who are using BBEdit and subversion  
are likely to have also installed the included BBEdit command line  
tools (an option when installing).

Not that I agree with his suggestion. I think Dirk's use of a  
supported AppleEvent interface is the way to go. Then it will work for  
anyone who has BBEdit and chooses that as their diff tool.

Paul

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Re: BBEdit 9.1 update + show diff

2009-02-12 Thread Quinn Taylor


On Feb 12, 2009, at 5:29 AM, Paul Willis wrote:



On 11 Feb 2009, at 19:37, Quinn Taylor wrote:


I agree with others who suggested in essence that anyone serious
enough to be using Subversion will have the BBEdit's command tools
installed.


I use Subversion seriously, but don't use BBEdit as my primary
editor, and don't recall whether I have the tools installed or not.
You're welcome to love BBEdit, but assuming that everyone else
thinks it's the bee's knees in a way that could cause problems if
the tools aren't installed isn't wise. There may certainly be a
better solution than the current one, but assuming use of a third-
party commercial product doesn't seem like it.


You've taken AlanR's comment out of context. The discussion is about
people who are using BBEdit for diff and how Versions should access
it. AlanR is saying that people who are using BBEdit and subversion
are likely to have also installed the included BBEdit command line
tools (an option when installing).


Ah, so he was talking only about BBEdit users who are serious enough  
to be using Subversion. That clarifies a lot, thanks!



Not that I agree with his suggestion. I think Dirk's use of a
supported AppleEvent interface is the way to go. Then it will work for
anyone who has BBEdit and chooses that as their diff tool.




Paul


I'm with you, I still disagree, and I think Dirk is on the right  
track. Assuming that any reasonable user will have X is not the most  
robust way to develop software, and I'm glad the Versions team is  
doing The Right Thing™.  :-)


 - Quinn



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Re: BBEdit 9.1 update + show diff

2009-02-12 Thread AlanR

 You've taken AlanR's comment out of context. The discussion is about  
 people who are using BBEdit for diff and how Versions should access  
 it. AlanR is saying that people who are using BBEdit and subversion  
 are likely to have also installed the included BBEdit command line  
 tools (an option when installing).

 Paul

Thank you,

I didn't want to make that point myself, no need for flaming in here.
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Re: BBEdit 9.1 update + show diff

2009-02-11 Thread AlanR



On Dec 22 2008, 5:02 am, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote:

 1. The location of the bbdiff command line tool inside the application
 bundle might change again in a later release (the location of this
 file inside the app is not a way to interact with it that's endorsed
 or recommended by BareBones Software)
 2. We prefer not to require people to install the command line tools
 for an application we integrate with if it's not strictly necessary.

 Using the supported AppleEvent interface to show a diff inBBEdit
 makes integration completely independent from the command line tools.
 Plus, it should work with current, previous and future releases ofBBEdit.

 All the best,
 - Dirk

 the Versions team

This makes little sense to me as well.

BareBones provides an external interface to the tool via their command
line tools and you've made the choice to delve into the app itself
rather than use the interface they provide.

I agree with others who suggested in essence that anyone serious
enough to be using Subversion will have the BBEdit's command tools
installed.

Your symlink work-around (which does of course work) is simply
providing a circuitous root to their provided interface.

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Re: BBEdit 9.1 update + show diff

2009-02-11 Thread Quinn Taylor


I agree with others who suggested in essence that anyone serious
enough to be using Subversion will have the BBEdit's command tools
installed.



I use Subversion seriously, but don't use BBEdit as my primary editor,  
and don't recall whether I have the tools installed or not. You're  
welcome to love BBEdit, but assuming that everyone else thinks it's  
the bee's knees in a way that could cause problems if the tools  
aren't installed isn't wise. There may certainly be a better solution  
than the current one, but assuming use of a third-party commercial  
product doesn't seem like it.


 - Quinn

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Re: BBEdit 9.1 update + show diff

2009-01-08 Thread AussieAbroad

Ditto - Thanks this did the trick. I did notice in that dir that there
is a bbdiff1

On Jan 7, 11:19 am, Bala bala.bo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the work-around. Worked like a charm, and should hol me
 over until the next release of Versions.

 On Dec 24 2008, 5:51 pm, mac joost macjo...@gmail.com wrote:

  For a quick fix when you have the command line tools installed: create
  a symlink of the bbdiff command line tool in BBEdit.app/Contents/
  Resources/  (that's where it used to be).

  In the terminal (when BBEdit is put in /Applications), type:

  ln -s /usr/bin/bbdiff /Applications/BBEdit.app/Contents/Resources/
  bbdiff

  Works fine for me (and should be reset with the next BBEdit update).

  On Dec 21, 9:03 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote:

   Versions currently uses theBBEditbbdiff command line tool from it's
   uninstalled location in the application bundle, which changed in 9.1.
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Re: BBEdit 9.1 update + show diff

2009-01-07 Thread Bala

Thanks for the work-around. Worked like a charm, and should hol me
over until the next release of Versions.

On Dec 24 2008, 5:51 pm, mac joost macjo...@gmail.com wrote:
 For a quick fix when you have the command line tools installed: create
 a symlink of the bbdiff command line tool in BBEdit.app/Contents/
 Resources/  (that's where it used to be).

 In the terminal (when BBEdit is put in /Applications), type:

 ln -s /usr/bin/bbdiff /Applications/BBEdit.app/Contents/Resources/
 bbdiff

 Works fine for me (and should be reset with the next BBEdit update).

 On Dec 21, 9:03 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote:

  Versions currently uses theBBEditbbdiff command line tool from it's
  uninstalled location in the application bundle, which changed in 9.1.
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Re: BBEdit 9.1 update + show diff

2008-12-21 Thread haikuty

Thanks Dirk.  Given the nature of the (likely) fix or the problem is
it then going to not work with previous versions of BBEdit?



On Dec 19, 3:13 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 Thanks to the great folks over at BareBones Software we know exactly
 why this problem is occuring, we're working to get it fixed asap.

 Sorry for the trouble, a fix will be out soon.

 All the best,
 - Dirk

 the Versions team

 On Dec 17, 5:05 pm, Tim Gray tg...@125px.com wrote:

  Same problem here.

  On Dec 16, 6:41 pm, echo goo...@echozone.com wrote:

   Huge essential feature for me too. I've posted to theBBEditgoogle
   group, writtenBBEditsupport and was writing here in hopes for a
   debugging lead, as it seems to point to something with command line
   diff. You could writeBBEditsupport too, to give it more weight.
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Re: BBEdit 9.1 update + show diff

2008-12-21 Thread AussieAbroad

Would it make sense to use the INSTALLED version first and if not
found in the installed path: /usr/bin/bbdiff
If not found only then use the uninstalled version in the bundle?

On Dec 21, 12:03 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote:
 Hi Haikuti,

 We're planning to remain compatible with older versions too.  Versions  
 currently uses the BBEdit bbdiff command line tool from it's  
 uninstalled location in the application bundle, which changed in 9.1.  
 We're investigating using BBEdit's AppleEvent interface in the next  
 release which should also work with older releases.

 Which release of BBEdit do you want to use with Versions?

 Dirk

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 On Dec 21, 2008, at 7:52 PM, haikuty haik...@gmail.com wrote:



  Thanks Dirk.  Given the nature of the (likely) fix or the problem is
  it then going to not work with previous versions of BBEdit?

  On Dec 19, 3:13 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote:
  Hi everyone,

  Thanks to the great folks over at BareBones Software we know exactly
  why this problem is occuring, we're working to get it fixed asap.

  Sorry for the trouble, a fix will be out soon.

  All the best,
  - Dirk

  the Versions team

  On Dec 17, 5:05 pm, Tim Gray tg...@125px.com wrote:

  Same problem here.

  On Dec 16, 6:41 pm, echo goo...@echozone.com wrote:

  Huge essential feature for me too. I've posted to theBBEditgoogle
  group, writtenBBEditsupport and was writing here in hopes for a
  debugging lead, as it seems to point to something with command line
  diff. You could writeBBEditsupport too, to give it more weight.
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Re: BBEdit 9.1 update + show diff

2008-12-19 Thread Dirk Stoop

Hi everyone,

Thanks to the great folks over at BareBones Software we know exactly
why this problem is occuring, we're working to get it fixed asap.

Sorry for the trouble, a fix will be out soon.

All the best,
- Dirk

the Versions team

On Dec 17, 5:05 pm, Tim Gray tg...@125px.com wrote:
 Same problem here.

 On Dec 16, 6:41 pm, echo goo...@echozone.com wrote:

  Huge essential feature for me too. I've posted to theBBEditgoogle
  group, writtenBBEditsupport and was writing here in hopes for a
  debugging lead, as it seems to point to something with command line
  diff. You could writeBBEditsupport too, to give it more weight.
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Re: BBEdit 9.1 update + show diff

2008-12-17 Thread Tim Gray

Same problem here.

On Dec 16, 6:41 pm, echo goo...@echozone.com wrote:
 Huge essential feature for me too. I've posted to the BBEdit google
 group, written BBEdit support and was writing here in hopes for a
 debugging lead, as it seems to point to something with command line
 diff. You could write BBEdit support too, to give it more weight.
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Re: BBEdit 9.1 update + show diff

2008-12-16 Thread echo

Huge essential feature for me too. I've written BBEdit support (it
didn't get past their google group moderation), and was writing here
in hopes for a debugging lead, as it seems to point to something with
command line diff. You could write BBEdit support too, to give it more
weight.
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