[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January

[Mark Romero]

been usin' Aquastealth since the mid 90'sprolly bought my first pair of 
them in '96...somewhere in there..haven't used felt since 
before that...felt is highly irresponsiblein terms of the 
transfere of invasive paristies, and the diseases the carrynot to 
mention dedimo...etc.whirling disease spores can live in dry felt 
for up to three years and still wreck havoc once the felt gets wet 
againand do you know how many people will actually take the time to 
do a bleach solution bath/wash of their boots, after every single time they go 
fishin'.?..right..virtually 
none..myself included. i'll admit it...i'm to damn 
lazy.so, where aquastealth..you don't gotta worry bout 
it. Simms or Patagonia.i have bothand like them both
 
> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:40:53 +1000
> From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January
> 
> 
> not a fan of them either way...Much prefer being able to climb. Anyone 
> here use aquastealth?
> 
> R
> 
> Mark Romero wrote:
> > NO felt soled wading boots..PLEASE...NO! 
> > felt.be responsible. Tkx.,
> > 
> > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:21:33 +1000
> > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in 
> > January
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks. Costco just opened up here in Melbourne last month and seems to
> > > be a huge hit. I will have to check them out.
> > > As I don't tend to buy much for myself, when I do, I try to get better
> > > quality, especially if I will not be able to return them under 
> > warranty.
> > > I will probably head towards something like Simms with the wading
> > > boots(name slipped my mind) with soles that may be swapped. Seem to be
> > > good, long lasting and compared to Aussie prices, cheap as chips.
> > >
> > > If anyone can recommend something else, please do.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > R
> > >
> > > Michael Bliss wrote:
> > > > My son-in-law got a nice pair of breathables at Costco for around $70
> > > > but they don't always carry them in the stores. Try their online 
> > store.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Reuven Segal
> > > > mailto:reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au>> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I will be probably from 16th Jan till end of month and then a couple
> > > > days around the 20th of Feb.
> > > > Timewise it is a tad constrained but I will certainly max out my time
> > > > whilst there. Need to get some breathables and tying materials whilst
> > > > there as well. Keep your eyes open boys (and girls) for any good
> > > > winter
> > > > sales on breathable chest waders and boots.
> > > >
> > > > R
> > > >
> > > > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > > > you'll be here for Sowbug or in Jan.?
> > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:37:09 +1000
> > > > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > > 
> > > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> > > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in
> > > > > January
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > absolutely. It will be great to have a chance to catch up with
> > > > some of
> > > > > > the guys from the list. Been a long time coming!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > R
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > > > > > OK Great! it's bout 15 miles between his palce and ours.
> > > > we're up
> > > > > near
> > > > > > > the damn.my cell is 870-575-2279 and in the truck it's
> > > > > > > 870-421-6563.house is 870-431-8955..let's go
> > > > fishin'.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:24:57 +1000
> > > > > > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly
> > > > Swap/Visit in
> > > > > > > January
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Mark:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hopefully we can catch up whilst I am either there. Hoping
> > > > to spend
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > time with Tony so if all goes well, will see you there too.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > R
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > > > > > > > we still live in N.Y. part time...but one of the
> > > > main
> > > > > > > > > reasons we relocated to arkansas is to NEVER have to
> > > > spend another
> > > > > > > > > Jan. in n.y.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:43:40 +1000
> > > > > > > > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > > 
> > > > > 

[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January

[Reuven Segal]

not a fan of them either way...Much prefer being able to climb. Anyone 
here use aquastealth?

R

Mark Romero wrote:
> NO felt soled wading boots..PLEASE...NO! 
> felt.be responsible. Tkx.,
>  
> > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:21:33 +1000
> > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in 
> January
> >
> >
> > Thanks. Costco just opened up here in Melbourne last month and seems to
> > be a huge hit. I will have to check them out.
> > As I don't tend to buy much for myself, when I do, I try to get better
> > quality, especially if I will not be able to return them under 
> warranty.
> > I will probably head towards something like Simms with the wading
> > boots(name slipped my mind) with soles that may be swapped. Seem to be
> > good, long lasting and compared to Aussie prices, cheap as chips.
> >
> > If anyone can recommend something else, please do.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > R
> >
> > Michael Bliss wrote:
> > > My son-in-law got a nice pair of breathables at Costco for around $70
> > > but they don't always carry them in the stores. Try their online 
> store.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Reuven Segal
> > > mailto:reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au>> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I will be probably from 16th Jan till end of month and then a couple
> > > days around the 20th of Feb.
> > > Timewise it is a tad constrained but I will certainly max out my time
> > > whilst there. Need to get some breathables and tying materials whilst
> > > there as well. Keep your eyes open boys (and girls) for any good
> > > winter
> > > sales on breathable chest waders and boots.
> > >
> > > R
> > >
> > > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > > you'll be here for Sowbug or in Jan.?
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:37:09 +1000
> > > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > 
> > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in
> > > > January
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > absolutely. It will be great to have a chance to catch up with
> > > some of
> > > > > the guys from the list. Been a long time coming!!
> > > > >
> > > > > R
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > > > > OK Great! it's bout 15 miles between his palce and ours.
> > > we're up
> > > > near
> > > > > > the damn.my cell is 870-575-2279 and in the truck it's
> > > > > > 870-421-6563.house is 870-431-8955..let's go
> > > fishin'.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:24:57 +1000
> > > > > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > 
> > > > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > 
> > > > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly
> > > Swap/Visit in
> > > > > > January
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Mark:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hopefully we can catch up whilst I am either there. Hoping
> > > to spend
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > time with Tony so if all goes well, will see you there too.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > R
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > > > > > > we still live in N.Y. part time...but one of the
> > > main
> > > > > > > > reasons we relocated to arkansas is to NEVER have to
> > > spend another
> > > > > > > > Jan. in n.y.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:43:40 +1000
> > > > > > > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > 
> > > > > > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > 
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly
> > > > Swap/Visit in
> > > > > > > > January
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In that case, I will admit to being a toolnot the
> > > first
> > > > time
> > > > > > I have
> > > > > > > > > been called one!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also, who here is located in NJ, NY or Boston? I would
> > > love to
> > > > > > catch up
> > > > > > > > > with you when in the US in January time- permitting.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Catch up later,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The Tool
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Neville Gosling wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hey Reuven it is good to hear from you at last.
> > > SHANA TOVA
> > > > to you
> > > > > > > > as well.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You are a good dude and took part in one of my
> > > swaps, but this
> > > > > > > > time you
> > > > > > > > > > failed to communicate. Had you done so, it would
> > > have been
> > > > ok.
> > > > > > And
> > > > > > > > you know
> > > > > > > > > > what they say about the workman who blames his
> > > tools! "nuf
> > > > said.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >

[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January

[Mark Romero]

NO felt soled wading boots..PLEASE...NO! felt.be 
responsible. Tkx., 
 
> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:21:33 +1000
> From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January
> 
> 
> Thanks. Costco just opened up here in Melbourne last month and seems to 
> be a huge hit. I will have to check them out.
> As I don't tend to buy much for myself, when I do, I try to get better 
> quality, especially if I will not be able to return them under warranty. 
> I will probably head towards something like Simms with the wading 
> boots(name slipped my mind) with soles that may be swapped. Seem to be 
> good, long lasting and compared to Aussie prices, cheap as chips.
> 
> If anyone can recommend something else, please do.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> R
> 
> Michael Bliss wrote:
> > My son-in-law got a nice pair of breathables at Costco for around $70 
> > but they don't always carry them in the stores. Try their online store.
> > 
> > Mike
> > On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Reuven Segal 
> > mailto:reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I will be probably from 16th Jan till end of month and then a couple
> > days around the 20th of Feb.
> > Timewise it is a tad constrained but I will certainly max out my time
> > whilst there. Need to get some breathables and tying materials whilst
> > there as well. Keep your eyes open boys (and girls) for any good
> > winter
> > sales on breathable chest waders and boots.
> >
> > R
> >
> > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > you'll be here for Sowbug or in Jan.?
> > >
> > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:37:09 +1000
> > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > 
> > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in
> > > January
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > absolutely. It will be great to have a chance to catch up with
> > some of
> > > > the guys from the list. Been a long time coming!!
> > > >
> > > > R
> > > >
> > > > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > > > OK Great! it's bout 15 miles between his palce and ours.
> > we're up
> > > near
> > > > > the damn.my cell is 870-575-2279 and in the truck it's
> > > > > 870-421-6563.house is 870-431-8955..let's go
> > fishin'.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:24:57 +1000
> > > > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > 
> > > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > 
> > > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly
> > Swap/Visit in
> > > > > January
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Mark:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hopefully we can catch up whilst I am either there. Hoping
> > to spend
> > > > > some
> > > > > > time with Tony so if all goes well, will see you there too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > R
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > > > > > we still live in N.Y. part time...but one of the
> > main
> > > > > > > reasons we relocated to arkansas is to NEVER have to
> > spend another
> > > > > > > Jan. in n.y.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:43:40 +1000
> > > > > > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > 
> > > > > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > 
> > > > > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly
> > > Swap/Visit in
> > > > > > > January
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In that case, I will admit to being a toolnot the
> > first
> > > time
> > > > > I have
> > > > > > > > been called one!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, who here is located in NJ, NY or Boston? I would
> > love to
> > > > > catch up
> > > > > > > > with you when in the US in January time- permitting.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Catch up later,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Tool
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Neville Gosling wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hey Reuven it is good to hear from you at last.
> > SHANA TOVA
> > > to you
> > > > > > > as well.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You are a good dude and took part in one of my
> > swaps, but this
> > > > > > > time you
> > > > > > > > > failed to communicate. Had you done so, it would
> > have been
> > > ok.
> > > > > And
> > > > > > > you know
> > > > > > > > > what they say about the workman who blames his
> > tools! "nuf
> > > said.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Neville (Nev) Gosling,
> > > > > > > > > Greater Vancouver, B.C.
> > > > > > > > > Canada
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > > > From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > 
> > > > > [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > ]
> > > > > > > On Behalf

[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January

[Mark Romero]

i'll do the Reuven.np. i won't be able to be on here (internet) much for 
the next say.10 days.bunch of house guest now and Conclave. 
 
> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:05:04 +1000
> From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January
> 
> 
> I will be probably from 16th Jan till end of month and then a couple 
> days around the 20th of Feb.
> Timewise it is a tad constrained but I will certainly max out my time 
> whilst there. Need to get some breathables and tying materials whilst 
> there as well. Keep your eyes open boys (and girls) for any good winter 
> sales on breathable chest waders and boots.
> 
> R
> 
> Mark Romero wrote:
> > you'll be here for Sowbug or in Jan.?
> > 
> > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:37:09 +1000
> > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in 
> > January
> > >
> > >
> > > absolutely. It will be great to have a chance to catch up with some of
> > > the guys from the list. Been a long time coming!!
> > >
> > > R
> > >
> > > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > > OK Great! it's bout 15 miles between his palce and ours. we're up 
> > near
> > > > the damn.my cell is 870-575-2279 and in the truck it's
> > > > 870-421-6563.house is 870-431-8955..let's go fishin'.
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:24:57 +1000
> > > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in
> > > > January
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mark:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hopefully we can catch up whilst I am either there. Hoping to spend
> > > > some
> > > > > time with Tony so if all goes well, will see you there too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > R
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > > > > we still live in N.Y. part time...but one of the main
> > > > > > reasons we relocated to arkansas is to NEVER have to spend another
> > > > > > Jan. in n.y.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:43:40 +1000
> > > > > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly 
> > Swap/Visit in
> > > > > > January
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In that case, I will admit to being a toolnot the first 
> > time
> > > > I have
> > > > > > > been called one!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, who here is located in NJ, NY or Boston? I would love to
> > > > catch up
> > > > > > > with you when in the US in January time- permitting.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Catch up later,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Tool
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Neville Gosling wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hey Reuven it is good to hear from you at last. SHANA TOVA 
> > to you
> > > > > > as well.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You are a good dude and took part in one of my swaps, but this
> > > > > > time you
> > > > > > > > failed to communicate. Had you done so, it would have been 
> > ok.
> > > > And
> > > > > > you know
> > > > > > > > what they say about the workman who blames his tools! "nuf 
> > said.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Neville (Nev) Gosling,
> > > > > > > > Greater Vancouver, B.C.
> > > > > > > > Canada
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > > From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > > [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com]
> > > > > > On Behalf
> > > > > > > > Of Reuven Segal
> > > > > > > > Sent: September-26-09 7:52 AM
> > > > > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Firstly, SHANA TOVA to all.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > OK OK guysjust relax a little. The world hasn't
> > > > collapsed...yet.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I apologise for any issues that may have arisen BUT I have 
> > been
> > > > > > out of touch
> > > > > > > > with EVERYONE because...
> > > > > > > > 1. my computer is Dell crap.
> > > > > > > > 2. I have been pulling 110+ hour weeks for a couple months 
> > now 3.
> > > > > > my flies
> > > > > > > > were mailed from Bali by a wife who forgot to mail them 
> > before
> > > > heading
> > > > > > > > overseas. It has been a month now but if you think the 
> > mail is a
> > > > > > problem,
> > > > > > > > you should try making a phone calll.
> > > > > > > > I can do nothing about the slow mail, but you should 
> > decide what
> > > > > > to do.
> > > > > > > > That being said, and whilst there can be no excuse for not
> > > > mailing
> > > > > > flies or
> > > > > > > > keeping in contact, there is no need for a blackballing
> > > > anyone. We
> > > > > > are not
> > > > > > > > communist hunters.
> > > > > > > > I think that 

[VFB] Re: Something different: Orvis/Old Mill Fly-Casting Course

[Wes Wada]

Hi Mark and VFB!
Finally getting some time free to write about the evening on the Orvis / Old
Mill District fly-casting course. My friend Steve, who was a volunteer judge
at the competition last weekend, was happy to show me the ropes.  We had a
good talk and a fun evening.

First, about the competition.  Since this is the first fly-casting course
like this in the country, this was the very first competition.  It was just
a promotional event that had as one of its goals publicizing the existence
of the course.  Steve and Tim Rajeff and friends were the main "names" on
the pro end of the event.  A woman friend of Tim Rajeff won the woman's pro
competition (total of five participants). Top prize was a nice donated
canoe.

The volunteer judges got a $50 Orvis gift card per day that they helped out.
 The event lasted two days, with the amateurs competing over three holes the
first day.  If you ever won something at any kind of fly casting event
anywhere, you were considered a pro. Anyway, just an opportunity for people
to get together and have some fun as participants or observers.

The fly-casting course goes over 18-holes (fly casting stations).  Each
station is marked by a small permanent sign that also includes the
instructions to play the course.  You stand on a pie dish sized bronze Orvis
marker to do your casting.  Most of the events have anchored floating rings
in the water as targets, or masonry rings sunk into the ground.  There is
only one station where you cast into the river.

Each of the stations is quite beautiful to see.  The course winds around
both sides of the Deschutes River which floats through downtown Bend.
 There's an existing footbridge over the river on both ends of the
fly-casting course.  At one point you are walking through the Les Schwab
outdoor amphitheater.  Other places, people are enjoying outdoor dining as
you walk by on the pathway, fly rods in hand. The course is open to the
public and free of charge.

Just to give an idea, the first station is located across the quiet main
road from the Orvis store in the Old Mill District commercial/shopping area.
 There are two big pipes dumping water into a nice looking but compact pond
surrounded by reeds.  There's a park bench at the edge of the pond.  There
are three 3' diameter floating rings at about 25, 40 and 55 feet distance.

You are allowed on most holes a cast to the side of the target to test
distance.  At this station, depending on your Level 1, 2 or 3, you had to
roll cast a tuft of yarn at the end of your floating line and leader inside
the ring.  You count the number of casts before you successfully put the
yarn on or into the ring. Roll casts only were allowed since this is a
pedestrian area.

The second hole was also roll-casting, recommended from a kneeling position.
 Targets were 10, 18, and 24 feet away roughly, anchored in the outlet
stream from the first pond.  After completing those casts, counting
"strokes" you just swiveled and casted at three clustered targets underneath
a small footbridge.  If your fly hits the bridge before dropping into the
water, that counts as a cast.

One of my personal favorite targets was a Lefty Kreh deal.  About a five
foot wide bronze ring on top of a bronze pedestal, with the center of the
ring about head level.  Depending on your skill Level, you could cast from
say 30' to 50' away from the ring.  You need to throw a compact, flat and
well-directed loop to put the yarn through the ring.  Visually, this was a
real Lord of the Rings fantasy adventure.

One of the more difficult target rings was sunk into the ground on the back
side of a tree.  There was also a ring in front of the tree.  You needed
first to put the yarn into the ring in front, then the ring in back.  The
only way to hit the ring in back was to do an overpowered horizontal cast
that whips the yarn around the tree.

Lots of the holes were challenging because you had to deal with tree
branches, bushes, overhangs and such. I used to do a lot of small stream
fishing, and would have been much more accurate on this course if I had been
in stream casting form.  Most of my fishing these days is bank fishing on
stillwater.

One of the last holes was lots of fun, and anybody can set this up easily.
 You mark off a starting point, then as far away as you want (ours was 530')
put a ring on the ground.  Starting from the start marker, you make a
sequence of distance casts as far as you can throw them.  After each cast
lands, a helper can mark where the yarn lands.  From that point you make
your second distance cast, then mark where that yarn lands, and so on.  On
this particular course you have to go around a big tree to get to the
target. All the ground is well-maintained lawn.

One thing I was somewhat surprised by is that participants are allowed to
bring multiple rods.  On the distance casting hole, the big boys were using
8wt. to 10wt. rods.  (The one station where you cast into the river is best
done with Spey or switch rod

[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January

[Reuven Segal]

Thanks. Costco just opened up here in Melbourne last month and seems to 
be a huge hit. I will have to check them out.
As I don't tend to buy much for myself, when I do, I try to get better 
quality, especially if I will not be able to return them under warranty. 
I will probably head towards something like Simms with the wading 
boots(name slipped my mind) with soles that may be swapped. Seem to be 
good, long lasting and compared to Aussie prices, cheap as chips.

If anyone can recommend something else, please do.

Regards,

R

Michael Bliss wrote:
> My son-in-law got a nice pair of breathables at Costco for around $70 
> but they don't always carry them in the stores.  Try their online store.
>  
> Mike
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Reuven Segal 
> mailto:reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au>> wrote:
>
>
> I will be probably from 16th Jan till end of month and then a couple
> days around the 20th of Feb.
> Timewise it is a tad constrained but I will certainly max out my time
> whilst there. Need to get some breathables and tying materials whilst
> there as well. Keep your eyes open boys (and girls) for any good
> winter
> sales on breathable chest waders and boots.
>
> R
>
> Mark Romero wrote:
> > you'll be here for Sowbug or in Jan.?
> >
> > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:37:09 +1000
> > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> 
> > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in
> > January
> > >
> > >
> > > absolutely. It will be great to have a chance to catch up with
> some of
> > > the guys from the list. Been a long time coming!!
> > >
> > > R
> > >
> > > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > > OK Great! it's bout 15 miles between his palce and ours.
> we're up
> > near
> > > > the damn.my cell is 870-575-2279 and in the truck it's
> > > > 870-421-6563.house is 870-431-8955..let's go
> fishin'.
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:24:57 +1000
> > > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> 
> > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> 
> > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly
> Swap/Visit in
> > > > January
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mark:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hopefully we can catch up whilst I am either there. Hoping
> to spend
> > > > some
> > > > > time with Tony so if all goes well, will see you there too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > R
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > > > > we still live in N.Y. part time...but one of the
> main
> > > > > > reasons we relocated to arkansas is to NEVER have to
> spend another
> > > > > > Jan. in n.y.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:43:40 +1000
> > > > > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> 
> > > > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> 
> > > > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly
> > Swap/Visit in
> > > > > > January
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In that case, I will admit to being a toolnot the
> first
> > time
> > > > I have
> > > > > > > been called one!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, who here is located in NJ, NY or Boston? I would
> love to
> > > > catch up
> > > > > > > with you when in the US in January time- permitting.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Catch up later,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Tool
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Neville Gosling wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hey Reuven it is good to hear from you at last.
> SHANA TOVA
> > to you
> > > > > > as well.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You are a good dude and took part in one of my
> swaps, but this
> > > > > > time you
> > > > > > > > failed to communicate. Had you done so, it would
> have been
> > ok.
> > > > And
> > > > > > you know
> > > > > > > > what they say about the workman who blames his
> tools! "nuf
> > said.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Neville (Nev) Gosling,
> > > > > > > > Greater Vancouver, B.C.
> > > > > > > > Canada
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > > From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> 
> > > > [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> ]
> > > > > > On Behalf
> > > > > > > > Of Reuven Segal
> > > > > > > > Sent: September-26-09 7:52 AM
> > > > > > 

[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January

[Michael Bliss]

My son-in-law got a nice pair of breathables at Costco for around $70 but
they don't always carry them in the stores.  Try their online store.

Mike
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Reuven Segal
wrote:

>
> I will be probably from 16th Jan till end of month and then a couple
> days around the 20th of Feb.
> Timewise it is a tad constrained but I will certainly max out my time
> whilst there. Need to get some breathables and tying materials whilst
> there as well. Keep your eyes open boys (and girls) for any good winter
> sales on breathable chest waders and boots.
>
> R
>
> Mark Romero wrote:
> > you'll be here for Sowbug or in Jan.?
> >
> > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:37:09 +1000
> > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in
> > January
> > >
> > >
> > > absolutely. It will be great to have a chance to catch up with some of
> > > the guys from the list. Been a long time coming!!
> > >
> > > R
> > >
> > > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > > OK Great! it's bout 15 miles between his palce and ours. we're up
> > near
> > > > the damn.my cell is 870-575-2279 and in the truck it's
> > > > 870-421-6563.house is 870-431-8955..let's go fishin'.
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:24:57 +1000
> > > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in
> > > > January
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mark:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hopefully we can catch up whilst I am either there. Hoping to spend
> > > > some
> > > > > time with Tony so if all goes well, will see you there too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > R
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > > > > we still live in N.Y. part time...but one of the main
> > > > > > reasons we relocated to arkansas is to NEVER have to spend
> another
> > > > > > Jan. in n.y.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:43:40 +1000
> > > > > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly
> > Swap/Visit in
> > > > > > January
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In that case, I will admit to being a toolnot the first
> > time
> > > > I have
> > > > > > > been called one!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, who here is located in NJ, NY or Boston? I would love to
> > > > catch up
> > > > > > > with you when in the US in January time- permitting.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Catch up later,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Tool
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Neville Gosling wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hey Reuven it is good to hear from you at last. SHANA TOVA
> > to you
> > > > > > as well.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You are a good dude and took part in one of my swaps, but
> this
> > > > > > time you
> > > > > > > > failed to communicate. Had you done so, it would have been
> > ok.
> > > > And
> > > > > > you know
> > > > > > > > what they say about the workman who blames his tools! "nuf
> > said.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Neville (Nev) Gosling,
> > > > > > > > Greater Vancouver, B.C.
> > > > > > > > Canada
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > > From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > > [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com]
> > > > > > On Behalf
> > > > > > > > Of Reuven Segal
> > > > > > > > Sent: September-26-09 7:52 AM
> > > > > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Firstly, SHANA TOVA to all.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > OK OK guysjust relax a little. The world hasn't
> > > > collapsed...yet.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I apologise for any issues that may have arisen BUT I have
> > been
> > > > > > out of touch
> > > > > > > > with EVERYONE because...
> > > > > > > > 1. my computer is Dell crap.
> > > > > > > > 2. I have been pulling 110+ hour weeks for a couple months
> > now 3.
> > > > > > my flies
> > > > > > > > were mailed from Bali by a wife who forgot to mail them
> > before
> > > > heading
> > > > > > > > overseas. It has been a month now but if you think the
> > mail is a
> > > > > > problem,
> > > > > > > > you should try making a phone calll.
> > > > > > > > I can do nothing about the slow mail, but you should
> > decide what
> > > > > > to do.
> > > > > > > > That being said, and whilst there can be no excuse for not
> > > > mailing
> > > > > > flies or
> > > > > > > > keeping in contact, there is no need for a blackballing
> > > > anyone. We
> > > > > > are not
> > > > > > > > communist hunters.
> > > > > > > > I think that I have been fairly consistent over the previous
> 5
> > > > > > years in
> > > > > > > > terms of swaps, having completed over a dozen or so. I think
>

[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January

[Alan Di Somma]

Look at the Orvis stie.
My son in law just picked up a pair of breathables and boots for around 
$230.


Thank you,
Alan Di Somma

Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"

http://www.azflyfishing.net/
- Original Message - 
From: "Reuven Segal" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 6:05 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January


>
> I will be probably from 16th Jan till end of month and then a couple
> days around the 20th of Feb.
> Timewise it is a tad constrained but I will certainly max out my time
> whilst there. Need to get some breathables and tying materials whilst
> there as well. Keep your eyes open boys (and girls) for any good winter
> sales on breathable chest waders and boots.
>
> R
>
> Mark Romero wrote:
>> you'll be here for Sowbug or in Jan.?
>>
>> > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:37:09 +1000
>> > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
>> > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in
>> January
>> >
>> >
>> > absolutely. It will be great to have a chance to catch up with some of
>> > the guys from the list. Been a long time coming!!
>> >
>> > R
>> >
>> > Mark Romero wrote:
>> > > OK Great! it's bout 15 miles between his palce and ours. we're up
>> near
>> > > the damn.my cell is 870-575-2279 and in the truck it's
>> > > 870-421-6563.house is 870-431-8955..let's go fishin'.
>> > >
>> > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:24:57 +1000
>> > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
>> > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in
>> > > January
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi Mark:
>> > > >
>> > > > Hopefully we can catch up whilst I am either there. Hoping to spend
>> > > some
>> > > > time with Tony so if all goes well, will see you there too.
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > R
>> > > >
>> > > > Mark Romero wrote:
>> > > > > we still live in N.Y. part time...but one of the main
>> > > > > reasons we relocated to arkansas is to NEVER have to spend 
>> > > > > another
>> > > > > Jan. in n.y.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:43:40 +1000
>> > > > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
>> > > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> > > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly
>> Swap/Visit in
>> > > > > January
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > In that case, I will admit to being a toolnot the first
>> time
>> > > I have
>> > > > > > been called one!
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Also, who here is located in NJ, NY or Boston? I would love to
>> > > catch up
>> > > > > > with you when in the US in January time- permitting.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Catch up later,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The Tool
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Neville Gosling wrote:
>> > > > > > > Hey Reuven it is good to hear from you at last. SHANA TOVA
>> to you
>> > > > > as well.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > You are a good dude and took part in one of my swaps, but 
>> > > > > > > this
>> > > > > time you
>> > > > > > > failed to communicate. Had you done so, it would have been
>> ok.
>> > > And
>> > > > > you know
>> > > > > > > what they say about the workman who blames his tools! "nuf
>> said.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Cheers
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Neville (Nev) Gosling,
>> > > > > > > Greater Vancouver, B.C.
>> > > > > > > Canada
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > -Original Message-
>> > > > > > > From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> > > [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com]
>> > > > > On Behalf
>> > > > > > > Of Reuven Segal
>> > > > > > > Sent: September-26-09 7:52 AM
>> > > > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> > > > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Firstly, SHANA TOVA to all.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > OK OK guysjust relax a little. The world hasn't
>> > > collapsed...yet.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I apologise for any issues that may have arisen BUT I have
>> been
>> > > > > out of touch
>> > > > > > > with EVERYONE because...
>> > > > > > > 1. my computer is Dell crap.
>> > > > > > > 2. I have been pulling 110+ hour weeks for a couple months
>> now 3.
>> > > > > my flies
>> > > > > > > were mailed from Bali by a wife who forgot to mail them
>> before
>> > > heading
>> > > > > > > overseas. It has been a month now but if you think the
>> mail is a
>> > > > > problem,
>> > > > > > > you should try making a phone calll.
>> > > > > > > I can do nothing about the slow mail, but you should
>> decide what
>> > > > > to do.
>> > > > > > > That being said, and whilst there can be no excuse for not
>> > > mailing
>> > > > > flies or
>> > > > > > > keeping in contact, there is no need for a blackballing
>> > > anyone. We
>> > > > > are not
>> > > > > > > communist hunters.
>> > > > > > > I think that I have been fairly consistent over the previous 
>> > > > > > > 5
>> > > > > years in
>

[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January

[Reuven Segal]

I will be probably from 16th Jan till end of month and then a couple 
days around the 20th of Feb.
Timewise it is a tad constrained but I will certainly max out my time 
whilst there. Need to get some breathables and tying materials whilst 
there as well. Keep your eyes open boys (and girls) for any good winter 
sales on breathable chest waders and boots.

R

Mark Romero wrote:
> you'll be here for Sowbug or in Jan.?
>  
> > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:37:09 +1000
> > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in 
> January
> >
> >
> > absolutely. It will be great to have a chance to catch up with some of
> > the guys from the list. Been a long time coming!!
> >
> > R
> >
> > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > OK Great! it's bout 15 miles between his palce and ours. we're up 
> near
> > > the damn.my cell is 870-575-2279 and in the truck it's
> > > 870-421-6563.house is 870-431-8955..let's go fishin'.
> > >
> > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:24:57 +1000
> > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in
> > > January
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mark:
> > > >
> > > > Hopefully we can catch up whilst I am either there. Hoping to spend
> > > some
> > > > time with Tony so if all goes well, will see you there too.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > R
> > > >
> > > > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > > > we still live in N.Y. part time...but one of the main
> > > > > reasons we relocated to arkansas is to NEVER have to spend another
> > > > > Jan. in n.y.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:43:40 +1000
> > > > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly 
> Swap/Visit in
> > > > > January
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In that case, I will admit to being a toolnot the first 
> time
> > > I have
> > > > > > been called one!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, who here is located in NJ, NY or Boston? I would love to
> > > catch up
> > > > > > with you when in the US in January time- permitting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Catch up later,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Tool
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neville Gosling wrote:
> > > > > > > Hey Reuven it is good to hear from you at last. SHANA TOVA 
> to you
> > > > > as well.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are a good dude and took part in one of my swaps, but this
> > > > > time you
> > > > > > > failed to communicate. Had you done so, it would have been 
> ok.
> > > And
> > > > > you know
> > > > > > > what they say about the workman who blames his tools! "nuf 
> said.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Neville (Nev) Gosling,
> > > > > > > Greater Vancouver, B.C.
> > > > > > > Canada
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com]
> > > > > On Behalf
> > > > > > > Of Reuven Segal
> > > > > > > Sent: September-26-09 7:52 AM
> > > > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Firstly, SHANA TOVA to all.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OK OK guysjust relax a little. The world hasn't
> > > collapsed...yet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I apologise for any issues that may have arisen BUT I have 
> been
> > > > > out of touch
> > > > > > > with EVERYONE because...
> > > > > > > 1. my computer is Dell crap.
> > > > > > > 2. I have been pulling 110+ hour weeks for a couple months 
> now 3.
> > > > > my flies
> > > > > > > were mailed from Bali by a wife who forgot to mail them 
> before
> > > heading
> > > > > > > overseas. It has been a month now but if you think the 
> mail is a
> > > > > problem,
> > > > > > > you should try making a phone calll.
> > > > > > > I can do nothing about the slow mail, but you should 
> decide what
> > > > > to do.
> > > > > > > That being said, and whilst there can be no excuse for not
> > > mailing
> > > > > flies or
> > > > > > > keeping in contact, there is no need for a blackballing
> > > anyone. We
> > > > > are not
> > > > > > > communist hunters.
> > > > > > > I think that I have been fairly consistent over the previous 5
> > > > > years in
> > > > > > > terms of swaps, having completed over a dozen or so. I think
> > > it is
> > > > > the same
> > > > > > > of most people on the list. I think only once my flies didn't
> > > make
> > > > > it, but
> > > > > > > things cannot always be controlled.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I hope that I can become involved with this list again as 
> I once
> > > > > was. Be
> > > > > > > patient..and forgiving ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > iain short wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Dan's flies have landed safe. Stil

[VFB] QFTD

[Rick Zieger]

"I quickly learned that tails tied using splayed hackle fibers were all that is 
necessary to float a book, and that the tying thread should be as thins as 
possible and kept to a minimum."
 
Ken Iwamass   Autumn 2009 "Fly Tyer"
 
Rick 


  
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RE: AW: [VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

Btw, if ya'll ever get a chance.hang with this cat and ask him bout 
Taimen..lol...he's a MONSTER Taimen guy and has been to Mongolia a 
crap load of times to fish for them.we had breakfast together one 
morning and he gave us a private showing of his entire slide show on all his 
adventures in Mongolia...to cool.
 


From: royalcoach...@bluewin.ch
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: AW: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:09:17 +0200







It is Iwamasa 
http://keniwamasa.com
 
Thomas



















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Sonnhaldenstrasse 14
CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH
Switzerland 


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+41442628367
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von Jeff Frye
Gesendet: Samstag, 26. September 2009 20:05
An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Betreff: [VFB] Re: QFTD
 


That is a very hard book to find. I still haven't found it either. I'm trying 
to get him to write another. He has flown in for the weekend with our club 2 of 
the last 3 years. He has an article in the new Fly Tyer. You're welcome, Mark

 




From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:27:12 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

Misa and i took a class with Ken Iwamasa (Iwamass, one of those spellings is 
correct?), at the FFF S.C.C. a couple years ago..GREAT 
Class.i'm still tryin' to find his book. Jeff Frye got him to come from 
Colorado and do the Conclave here. Another feather in his cap. If we never 
thanked you Jeff, THANKX! 
 



Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:41:42 -0700
From: rdzieg...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] QFTD
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; 
flyfishingwo...@yahoogroups.com; hillcountryflyfish...@yahoogroups.com





"I quickly learned that tails tied using splayed hackle fibers were all that is 
necessary to float a book, and that the tying thread should be as thins as 
possible and kept to a minimum."

 

Ken Iwamass   Autumn 2009 "Fly Tyer"

 

Rick 










  
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RE: AW: [VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

that's what i thought .havin' constant contact with the 
language.Iwamass just didn't jive
 


From: royalcoach...@bluewin.ch
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: AW: [VFB] Re: QFTD
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:09:17 +0200







It is Iwamasa 
http://keniwamasa.com
 
Thomas



















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Thomas R. Eckert 

Sonnhaldenstrasse 14
CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH
Switzerland 


royalcoach...@bluewin.ch 





Tel.: 
Mobil: 

+41442628367
+41796795463 




 

 




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von Jeff Frye
Gesendet: Samstag, 26. September 2009 20:05
An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Betreff: [VFB] Re: QFTD
 


That is a very hard book to find. I still haven't found it either. I'm trying 
to get him to write another. He has flown in for the weekend with our club 2 of 
the last 3 years. He has an article in the new Fly Tyer. You're welcome, Mark

 




From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:27:12 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

Misa and i took a class with Ken Iwamasa (Iwamass, one of those spellings is 
correct?), at the FFF S.C.C. a couple years ago..GREAT 
Class.i'm still tryin' to find his book. Jeff Frye got him to come from 
Colorado and do the Conclave here. Another feather in his cap. If we never 
thanked you Jeff, THANKX! 
 



Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:41:42 -0700
From: rdzieg...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] QFTD
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; 
flyfishingwo...@yahoogroups.com; hillcountryflyfish...@yahoogroups.com





"I quickly learned that tails tied using splayed hackle fibers were all that is 
necessary to float a book, and that the tying thread should be as thins as 
possible and kept to a minimum."

 

Ken Iwamass   Autumn 2009 "Fly Tyer"

 

Rick 










  
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[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January

[Mark Romero]

you'll be here for Sowbug or in Jan.? 
 
> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:37:09 +1000
> From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January
> 
> 
> absolutely. It will be great to have a chance to catch up with some of 
> the guys from the list. Been a long time coming!!
> 
> R
> 
> Mark Romero wrote:
> > OK Great! it's bout 15 miles between his palce and ours. we're up near 
> > the damn.my cell is 870-575-2279 and in the truck it's 
> > 870-421-6563.house is 870-431-8955..let's go fishin'.
> > 
> > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:24:57 +1000
> > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in 
> > January
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Mark:
> > >
> > > Hopefully we can catch up whilst I am either there. Hoping to spend 
> > some
> > > time with Tony so if all goes well, will see you there too.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > R
> > >
> > > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > > we still live in N.Y. part time...but one of the main
> > > > reasons we relocated to arkansas is to NEVER have to spend another
> > > > Jan. in n.y.
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:43:40 +1000
> > > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in
> > > > January
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In that case, I will admit to being a toolnot the first time 
> > I have
> > > > > been called one!
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, who here is located in NJ, NY or Boston? I would love to 
> > catch up
> > > > > with you when in the US in January time- permitting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Catch up later,
> > > > >
> > > > > The Tool
> > > > >
> > > > > Neville Gosling wrote:
> > > > > > Hey Reuven it is good to hear from you at last. SHANA TOVA to you
> > > > as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are a good dude and took part in one of my swaps, but this
> > > > time you
> > > > > > failed to communicate. Had you done so, it would have been ok. 
> > And
> > > > you know
> > > > > > what they say about the workman who blames his tools! "nuf said.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neville (Nev) Gosling,
> > > > > > Greater Vancouver, B.C.
> > > > > > Canada
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> > [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com]
> > > > On Behalf
> > > > > > Of Reuven Segal
> > > > > > Sent: September-26-09 7:52 AM
> > > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Firstly, SHANA TOVA to all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OK OK guysjust relax a little. The world hasn't 
> > collapsed...yet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I apologise for any issues that may have arisen BUT I have been
> > > > out of touch
> > > > > > with EVERYONE because...
> > > > > > 1. my computer is Dell crap.
> > > > > > 2. I have been pulling 110+ hour weeks for a couple months now 3.
> > > > my flies
> > > > > > were mailed from Bali by a wife who forgot to mail them before 
> > heading
> > > > > > overseas. It has been a month now but if you think the mail is a
> > > > problem,
> > > > > > you should try making a phone calll.
> > > > > > I can do nothing about the slow mail, but you should decide what
> > > > to do.
> > > > > > That being said, and whilst there can be no excuse for not 
> > mailing
> > > > flies or
> > > > > > keeping in contact, there is no need for a blackballing 
> > anyone. We
> > > > are not
> > > > > > communist hunters.
> > > > > > I think that I have been fairly consistent over the previous 5
> > > > years in
> > > > > > terms of swaps, having completed over a dozen or so. I think 
> > it is
> > > > the same
> > > > > > of most people on the list. I think only once my flies didn't 
> > make
> > > > it, but
> > > > > > things cannot always be controlled.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope that I can become involved with this list again as I once
> > > > was. Be
> > > > > > patient..and forgiving ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > iain short wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Dan's flies have landed safe. Still waiting to hear from Reuven
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> _*
> > > > > >> *_
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> _*SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap*_
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> If you entered both swaps you only pay postage once.
> > > > > >> If you entered both swaps dress Different fly's for each swap 
> > please.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Tie _ELEVEN_ flies, toe tag them,send them to me by the end of
> > > > august.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Enclose 3 US dollars for return postage
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> iain short, 29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington, Northumbria,
> > > > NE225PT. ENGLAND
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> All flies must be clearly marked second swap

AW: [VFB] Re: QFTD

[Thomas Eckert]

It is Iwamasa 
http://keniwamasa.com

 

Thomas





  

  Alaska Info

 



Thomas R. Eckert 

Sonnhaldenstrasse 14
CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH
Switzerland 


  royalcoach...@bluewin.ch 


Tel.: 
Mobil: 

+41442628367
+41796795463 

 

 

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Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag
von Jeff Frye
Gesendet: Samstag, 26. September 2009 20:05
An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Betreff: [VFB] Re: QFTD

 

That is a very hard book to find. I still haven't found it either. I'm
trying to get him to write another. He has flown in for the weekend with our
club 2 of the last 3 years. He has an article in the new Fly Tyer. You're
welcome, Mark

 

  _  

From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:27:12 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

Misa and i took a class with Ken Iwamasa (Iwamass, one of those spellings is
correct?), at the FFF S.C.C. a couple years ago..GREAT
Class.i'm still tryin' to find his book. Jeff Frye got him to come
from Colorado and do the Conclave here. Another feather in his cap. If we
never thanked you Jeff, THANKX!
 
 

  _  

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:41:42 -0700
From: rdzieg...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] QFTD
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com;
flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com;
flyfishingwo...@yahoogroups.com; hillcountryflyfish...@yahoogroups.com


"I quickly learned that tails tied using splayed hackle fibers were all that
is necessary to float a book, and that the tying thread should be as thins
as possible and kept to a minimum."

 

Ken Iwamass   Autumn 2009 "Fly Tyer"

 

Rick 











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[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January

[Reuven Segal]

absolutely. It will be great to have a chance to catch up with some of 
the guys from the list. Been a long time coming!!

R

Mark Romero wrote:
> OK Great! it's bout 15 miles between his palce and ours. we're up near 
> the damn.my cell is 870-575-2279 and in the truck it's 
> 870-421-6563.house is 870-431-8955..let's go fishin'.
>  
> > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:24:57 +1000
> > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in 
> January
> >
> >
> > Hi Mark:
> >
> > Hopefully we can catch up whilst I am either there. Hoping to spend 
> some
> > time with Tony so if all goes well, will see you there too.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > R
> >
> > Mark Romero wrote:
> > > we still live in N.Y. part time...but one of the main
> > > reasons we relocated to arkansas is to NEVER have to spend another
> > > Jan. in n.y.
> > >
> > > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:43:40 +1000
> > > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in
> > > January
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In that case, I will admit to being a toolnot the first time 
> I have
> > > > been called one!
> > > >
> > > > Also, who here is located in NJ, NY or Boston? I would love to 
> catch up
> > > > with you when in the US in January time- permitting.
> > > >
> > > > Catch up later,
> > > >
> > > > The Tool
> > > >
> > > > Neville Gosling wrote:
> > > > > Hey Reuven it is good to hear from you at last. SHANA TOVA to you
> > > as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > You are a good dude and took part in one of my swaps, but this
> > > time you
> > > > > failed to communicate. Had you done so, it would have been ok. 
> And
> > > you know
> > > > > what they say about the workman who blames his tools! "nuf said.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > Neville (Nev) Gosling,
> > > > > Greater Vancouver, B.C.
> > > > > Canada
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com]
> > > On Behalf
> > > > > Of Reuven Segal
> > > > > Sent: September-26-09 7:52 AM
> > > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Firstly, SHANA TOVA to all.
> > > > >
> > > > > OK OK guysjust relax a little. The world hasn't 
> collapsed...yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > I apologise for any issues that may have arisen BUT I have been
> > > out of touch
> > > > > with EVERYONE because...
> > > > > 1. my computer is Dell crap.
> > > > > 2. I have been pulling 110+ hour weeks for a couple months now 3.
> > > my flies
> > > > > were mailed from Bali by a wife who forgot to mail them before 
> heading
> > > > > overseas. It has been a month now but if you think the mail is a
> > > problem,
> > > > > you should try making a phone calll.
> > > > > I can do nothing about the slow mail, but you should decide what
> > > to do.
> > > > > That being said, and whilst there can be no excuse for not 
> mailing
> > > flies or
> > > > > keeping in contact, there is no need for a blackballing 
> anyone. We
> > > are not
> > > > > communist hunters.
> > > > > I think that I have been fairly consistent over the previous 5
> > > years in
> > > > > terms of swaps, having completed over a dozen or so. I think 
> it is
> > > the same
> > > > > of most people on the list. I think only once my flies didn't 
> make
> > > it, but
> > > > > things cannot always be controlled.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope that I can become involved with this list again as I once
> > > was. Be
> > > > > patient..and forgiving ;)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > iain short wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Dan's flies have landed safe. Still waiting to hear from Reuven
> > > > >>
> > > > >> _*
> > > > >> *_
> > > > >>
> > > > >> _*SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap*_
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If you entered both swaps you only pay postage once.
> > > > >> If you entered both swaps dress Different fly's for each swap 
> please.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Tie _ELEVEN_ flies, toe tag them,send them to me by the end of
> > > august.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Enclose 3 US dollars for return postage
> > > > >>
> > > > >> iain short, 29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington, Northumbria,
> > > NE225PT. ENGLAND
> > > > >>
> > > > >> All flies must be clearly marked second swap !
> > > > >>
> > > > >> *_Name your fly_*
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 1. Deb Duran - Peter Ross Variant - - ARRIVED
> > > > >> 2. Dan Gober - Professor - - - - - - - ARRIVED
> > > > >> 3. Iain Short - Peter Ross - - - - - - ARRIVED
> > > > >> 4. Mark Romero - Mallard and Claret - ARRIVED
> > > > >> 5. Garry Smith - Grizzly King - - - - - ARRIVED FIRST (& wins 
> prize)
> > > > >> 6. Reuven Segal -
> > > > >> 7. Rene Zillmann - Teal Blue & Silver _**_- ARRIVED
> > > > >> 8. George Vincent - Teal & Green - - ARRIVED

[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January

[Mark Romero]

OK Great! it's bout 15 miles between his palce and ours. we're up near the 
damn.my cell is 870-575-2279 and in the truck it's 870-421-6563.house 
is 870-431-8955..let's go fishin'. 
 
> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:24:57 +1000
> From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January
> 
> 
> Hi Mark:
> 
> Hopefully we can catch up whilst I am either there. Hoping to spend some 
> time with Tony so if all goes well, will see you there too.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> R
> 
> Mark Romero wrote:
> > we still live in N.Y. part time...but one of the main 
> > reasons we relocated to arkansas is to NEVER have to spend another 
> > Jan. in n.y.
> > 
> > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:43:40 +1000
> > > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in 
> > January
> > >
> > >
> > > In that case, I will admit to being a toolnot the first time I have
> > > been called one!
> > >
> > > Also, who here is located in NJ, NY or Boston? I would love to catch up
> > > with you when in the US in January time- permitting.
> > >
> > > Catch up later,
> > >
> > > The Tool
> > >
> > > Neville Gosling wrote:
> > > > Hey Reuven it is good to hear from you at last. SHANA TOVA to you 
> > as well.
> > > >
> > > > You are a good dude and took part in one of my swaps, but this 
> > time you
> > > > failed to communicate. Had you done so, it would have been ok. And 
> > you know
> > > > what they say about the workman who blames his tools! "nuf said.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Neville (Nev) Gosling,
> > > > Greater Vancouver, B.C.
> > > > Canada
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] 
> > On Behalf
> > > > Of Reuven Segal
> > > > Sent: September-26-09 7:52 AM
> > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Firstly, SHANA TOVA to all.
> > > >
> > > > OK OK guysjust relax a little. The world hasn't collapsed...yet.
> > > >
> > > > I apologise for any issues that may have arisen BUT I have been 
> > out of touch
> > > > with EVERYONE because...
> > > > 1. my computer is Dell crap.
> > > > 2. I have been pulling 110+ hour weeks for a couple months now 3. 
> > my flies
> > > > were mailed from Bali by a wife who forgot to mail them before heading
> > > > overseas. It has been a month now but if you think the mail is a 
> > problem,
> > > > you should try making a phone calll.
> > > > I can do nothing about the slow mail, but you should decide what 
> > to do.
> > > > That being said, and whilst there can be no excuse for not mailing 
> > flies or
> > > > keeping in contact, there is no need for a blackballing anyone. We 
> > are not
> > > > communist hunters.
> > > > I think that I have been fairly consistent over the previous 5 
> > years in
> > > > terms of swaps, having completed over a dozen or so. I think it is 
> > the same
> > > > of most people on the list. I think only once my flies didn't make 
> > it, but
> > > > things cannot always be controlled.
> > > >
> > > > I hope that I can become involved with this list again as I once 
> > was. Be
> > > > patient..and forgiving ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > iain short wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Dan's flies have landed safe. Still waiting to hear from Reuven
> > > >>
> > > >> _*
> > > >> *_
> > > >>
> > > >> _*SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap*_
> > > >>
> > > >> If you entered both swaps you only pay postage once.
> > > >> If you entered both swaps dress Different fly's for each swap please.
> > > >>
> > > >> Tie _ELEVEN_ flies, toe tag them,send them to me by the end of 
> > august.
> > > >>
> > > >> Enclose 3 US dollars for return postage
> > > >>
> > > >> iain short, 29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington, Northumbria, 
> > NE225PT. ENGLAND
> > > >>
> > > >> All flies must be clearly marked second swap !
> > > >>
> > > >> *_Name your fly_*
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. Deb Duran - Peter Ross Variant - - ARRIVED
> > > >> 2. Dan Gober - Professor - - - - - - - ARRIVED
> > > >> 3. Iain Short - Peter Ross - - - - - - ARRIVED
> > > >> 4. Mark Romero - Mallard and Claret - ARRIVED
> > > >> 5. Garry Smith - Grizzly King - - - - - ARRIVED FIRST (& wins prize)
> > > >> 6. Reuven Segal -
> > > >> 7. Rene Zillmann - Teal Blue & Silver _**_- ARRIVED
> > > >> 8. George Vincent - Teal & Green - - ARRIVED
> > > >> 9. David Mason - Guinea Hen - - - - ARRIVED
> > > >> 11.Mike Bliss - Liberty - - - - - - - - - ARRIVED
> > > >>
> > > >> 
> > 
> > > >> Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live. Find 
> > out
> > > >> more. 
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > 

[VFB] Re: QFTD

[J Balmer]

I usually just open the book to float it, but that doesn’t last long. Gotta
be some big hackle…

 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jimmy D. Moore
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 9:28 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

 

Was that "float a Hook?" :-P 

JIMMY D

Rick Zieger wrote:




"I quickly learned that tails tied using splayed hackle fibers were all that
is necessary to float a book, and that the tying thread should be as thins
as possible and kept to a minimum."

 

Ken Iwamass   Autumn 2009 "Fly Tyer"

 

Rick 









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[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January

[Reuven Segal]

Hi Mark:

Hopefully we can catch up whilst I am either there. Hoping to spend some 
time with Tony so if all goes well, will see you there too.

Regards,

R

Mark Romero wrote:
> we still live in N.Y. part time...but one of the main 
> reasons we relocated to arkansas is to NEVER have to spend another 
> Jan. in n.y.
>  
> > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:43:40 +1000
> > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in 
> January
> >
> >
> > In that case, I will admit to being a toolnot the first time I have
> > been called one!
> >
> > Also, who here is located in NJ, NY or Boston? I would love to catch up
> > with you when in the US in January time- permitting.
> >
> > Catch up later,
> >
> > The Tool
> >
> > Neville Gosling wrote:
> > > Hey Reuven it is good to hear from you at last. SHANA TOVA to you 
> as well.
> > >
> > > You are a good dude and took part in one of my swaps, but this 
> time you
> > > failed to communicate. Had you done so, it would have been ok. And 
> you know
> > > what they say about the workman who blames his tools! "nuf said.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Neville (Nev) Gosling,
> > > Greater Vancouver, B.C.
> > > Canada
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] 
> On Behalf
> > > Of Reuven Segal
> > > Sent: September-26-09 7:52 AM
> > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
> > >
> > >
> > > Firstly, SHANA TOVA to all.
> > >
> > > OK OK guysjust relax a little. The world hasn't collapsed...yet.
> > >
> > > I apologise for any issues that may have arisen BUT I have been 
> out of touch
> > > with EVERYONE because...
> > > 1. my computer is Dell crap.
> > > 2. I have been pulling 110+ hour weeks for a couple months now 3. 
> my flies
> > > were mailed from Bali by a wife who forgot to mail them before heading
> > > overseas. It has been a month now but if you think the mail is a 
> problem,
> > > you should try making a phone calll.
> > > I can do nothing about the slow mail, but you should decide what 
> to do.
> > > That being said, and whilst there can be no excuse for not mailing 
> flies or
> > > keeping in contact, there is no need for a blackballing anyone. We 
> are not
> > > communist hunters.
> > > I think that I have been fairly consistent over the previous 5 
> years in
> > > terms of swaps, having completed over a dozen or so. I think it is 
> the same
> > > of most people on the list. I think only once my flies didn't make 
> it, but
> > > things cannot always be controlled.
> > >
> > > I hope that I can become involved with this list again as I once 
> was. Be
> > > patient..and forgiving ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > iain short wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dan's flies have landed safe. Still waiting to hear from Reuven
> > >>
> > >> _*
> > >> *_
> > >>
> > >> _*SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap*_
> > >>
> > >> If you entered both swaps you only pay postage once.
> > >> If you entered both swaps dress Different fly's for each swap please.
> > >>
> > >> Tie _ELEVEN_ flies, toe tag them,send them to me by the end of 
> august.
> > >>
> > >> Enclose 3 US dollars for return postage
> > >>
> > >> iain short, 29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington, Northumbria, 
> NE225PT. ENGLAND
> > >>
> > >> All flies must be clearly marked second swap !
> > >>
> > >> *_Name your fly_*
> > >>
> > >> 1. Deb Duran - Peter Ross Variant - - ARRIVED
> > >> 2. Dan Gober - Professor - - - - - - - ARRIVED
> > >> 3. Iain Short - Peter Ross - - - - - - ARRIVED
> > >> 4. Mark Romero - Mallard and Claret - ARRIVED
> > >> 5. Garry Smith - Grizzly King - - - - - ARRIVED FIRST (& wins prize)
> > >> 6. Reuven Segal -
> > >> 7. Rene Zillmann - Teal Blue & Silver _**_- ARRIVED
> > >> 8. George Vincent - Teal & Green - - ARRIVED
> > >> 9. David Mason - Guinea Hen - - - - ARRIVED
> > >> 11.Mike Bliss - Liberty - - - - - - - - - ARRIVED
> > >>
> > >> 
> 
> > >> Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live. Find 
> out
> > >> more. 
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >

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[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January

[Mark Romero]

we still live in N.Y. part time...but one of the main reasons we 
relocated to arkansas is to NEVER have to spend another Jan. in n.y. 
 
> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:43:40 +1000
> From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January
> 
> 
> In that case, I will admit to being a toolnot the first time I have 
> been called one!
> 
> Also, who here is located in NJ, NY or Boston? I would love to catch up 
> with you when in the US in January time- permitting.
> 
> Catch up later,
> 
> The Tool
> 
> Neville Gosling wrote:
> > Hey Reuven it is good to hear from you at last. SHANA TOVA to you as well.
> >
> > You are a good dude and took part in one of my swaps, but this time you
> > failed to communicate. Had you done so, it would have been ok. And you know
> > what they say about the workman who blames his tools! "nuf said.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Neville (Nev) Gosling,
> > Greater Vancouver, B.C.
> > Canada
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of Reuven Segal
> > Sent: September-26-09 7:52 AM
> > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
> >
> >
> > Firstly, SHANA TOVA to all.
> >
> > OK OK guysjust relax a little. The world hasn't collapsed...yet.
> >
> > I apologise for any issues that may have arisen BUT I have been out of touch
> > with EVERYONE because...
> > 1. my computer is Dell crap.
> > 2. I have been pulling 110+ hour weeks for a couple months now 3. my flies
> > were mailed from Bali by a wife who forgot to mail them before heading
> > overseas. It has been a month now but if you think the mail is a problem,
> > you should try making a phone calll.
> > I can do nothing about the slow mail, but you should decide what to do.
> > That being said, and whilst there can be no excuse for not mailing flies or
> > keeping in contact, there is no need for a blackballing anyone. We are not
> > communist hunters.
> > I think that I have been fairly consistent over the previous 5 years in
> > terms of swaps, having completed over a dozen or so. I think it is the same
> > of most people on the list. I think only once my flies didn't make it, but
> > things cannot always be controlled.
> >
> > I hope that I can become involved with this list again as I once was. Be
> > patient..and forgiving ;)
> >
> >
> > iain short wrote:
> > 
> >> Dan's flies have landed safe. Still waiting to hear from Reuven
> >>
> >> _*
> >> *_
> >>
> >> _*SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap*_
> >>
> >> If you entered both swaps you only pay postage once.
> >> If you entered both swaps dress Different fly's for each swap please.
> >>
> >> Tie _ELEVEN_ flies, toe tag them,send them to me by the end of august.
> >>
> >> Enclose 3 US dollars for return postage
> >>
> >> iain short, 29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington, Northumbria, NE225PT. ENGLAND
> >>
> >> All flies must be clearly marked second swap !
> >>
> >> *_Name your fly_*
> >>
> >> 1. Deb Duran - Peter Ross Variant - - ARRIVED
> >> 2. Dan Gober - Professor - - - - - - - ARRIVED
> >> 3. Iain Short - Peter Ross - - - - - - ARRIVED
> >> 4. Mark Romero - Mallard and Claret - ARRIVED
> >> 5. Garry Smith - Grizzly King - - - - - ARRIVED FIRST (& wins prize)
> >> 6. Reuven Segal -
> >> 7. Rene Zillmann - Teal Blue & Silver _**_- ARRIVED
> >> 8. George Vincent - Teal & Green - - ARRIVED
> >> 9. David Mason - Guinea Hen - - - - ARRIVED
> >> 11.Mike Bliss - Liberty - - - - - - - - - ARRIVED
> >>
> >> 
> >> Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live. Find out 
> >> more. 
> >> 
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> > 
> 
> > 
  
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Jeff Frye]

That is a very hard book to find. I still haven't found it either. I'm trying 
to get him to write another. He has flown in for the weekend with our club 2 of 
the last 3 years. He has an article in the new Fly Tyer. You're welcome, Mark





From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:27:12 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD

 Misa and i took a class with Ken Iwamasa (Iwamass, one of those spellings is 
correct?), at the FFF S.C.C. a couple years ago..GREAT 
Class.i'm still tryin' to find his book. Jeff Frye got him to come from 
Colorado and do the Conclave here. Another feather in his cap. If we never 
thanked you Jeff, THANKX! 
 

 Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:41:42 -0700
From: rdzieg...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] QFTD
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; 
flyfishingwo...@yahoogroups.com; hillcountryflyfish...@yahoogroups.com


"I quickly learned that tails tied using splayed hackle fibers were all that is 
necessary to float a book, and that the tying thread should be as thins as 
possible and kept to a minimum."
 
Ken Iwamass   Autumn 2009 "Fly Tyer"
 
Rick  




  
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[VFB] SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

[Neville Gosling]

Hey Reuven it is good to hear from you at last.  SHANA TOVA to you as well.

You are a good dude and took part in one of my swaps, but this time you
failed to communicate. Had you done so, it would have been ok. And you know
what they say about the workman who blames his tools! "nuf said.

Cheers

Neville (Nev) Gosling,
Greater Vancouver, B.C.
Canada



-Original Message-
From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Reuven Segal
Sent: September-26-09 7:52 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap


Firstly, SHANA TOVA to all.

OK OK guysjust relax a little. The world hasn't collapsed...yet.

I apologise for any issues that may have arisen BUT I have been out of touch
with EVERYONE because...
1. my computer is Dell crap.
2. I have been pulling 110+ hour weeks for a couple months now 3. my flies
were mailed from Bali by a wife who forgot to mail them before heading
overseas. It has been a month now but if you think the mail is a problem,
you should try making a phone calll.
I can do nothing about the slow mail, but you should decide what to do.
That being said, and whilst there can be no excuse for not mailing flies or
keeping in contact, there is no need for a blackballing anyone. We are not
communist hunters.
I think that I have been fairly consistent over the previous 5 years in
terms of swaps, having completed over a dozen or so. I think it is the same
of most people on the list. I think only once my flies didn't make it, but
things cannot always be controlled.

I hope that I can become involved with this list again as I once was. Be
patient..and forgiving ;)


iain short wrote:
>
> Dan's flies have landed safe.  Still waiting to hear from Reuven
>
> _*
> *_
>
> _*SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap*_
>
> If you entered both swaps you only pay postage once.
> If you entered both swaps dress Different fly's for each swap please.
>
> Tie _ELEVEN_ flies, toe tag them,send them to me by the end of august.
>
> Enclose 3 US dollars for return postage
>
> iain short, 29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington, Northumbria, NE225PT. ENGLAND
>
> All flies must be clearly marked second swap !
>
> *_Name your fly_*
>
> 1. Deb Duran - Peter Ross Variant - - ARRIVED
> 2. Dan Gober - Professor - - - - - - - ARRIVED
> 3. Iain Short - Peter Ross  - - - - - - ARRIVED
> 4. Mark Romero - Mallard and Claret - ARRIVED
> 5. Garry Smith - Grizzly King - - - - -  ARRIVED FIRST (& wins prize)
> 6. Reuven Segal -
> 7. Rene Zillmann - Teal Blue & Silver _**_- ARRIVED
> 8. George Vincent - Teal & Green - -  ARRIVED
> 9. David Mason - Guinea Hen  - - - -  ARRIVED
> 11.Mike Bliss - Liberty - - - - - - - - - ARRIVED
>
> 
> Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live. Find out 
> more. 
> >



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[VFB] Re: lost post

[J Balmer]

You have two Outlook accounts & the WKSphoto one is set up as your default
account, which means Outlook automatically uses that account to send mail
unless you choose otherwise. When vfb-mail sees that incoming address it
kicks it back because it's not on it's list of acceptable accounts. In
Outlook, under the send button in the e-mail window there's an "account".
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For some reason Outlook is showing my out going as wksphoto and not
Ohio-kayak-fishing. I have check the setting and it is set for the latter as
out going mail.

I've changed on this message to see what might happen.

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[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

[iain short]

Hey Reuven
Good to hear from you,
Will wait for the post, no worries
iain

> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 00:51:44 +1000
> From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
> 
> 
> Firstly, SHANA TOVA to all.
> 
> OK OK guysjust relax a little. The world hasn't collapsed...yet.
> 
> I apologise for any issues that may have arisen BUT I have been out of 
> touch with EVERYONE because...
> 1. my computer is Dell crap.
> 2. I have been pulling 110+ hour weeks for a couple months now
> 3. my flies were mailed from Bali by a wife who forgot to mail them 
> before heading overseas. It has been a month now but if you think the 
> mail is a problem, you should try making a phone calll.
> I can do nothing about the slow mail, but you should decide what to do.
> That being said, and whilst there can be no excuse for not mailing flies 
> or keeping in contact, there is no need for a blackballing anyone. We 
> are not communist hunters.
> I think that I have been fairly consistent over the previous 5 years in 
> terms of swaps, having completed over a dozen or so. I think it is the 
> same of most people on the list. I think only once my flies didn't make 
> it, but things cannot always be controlled.
> 
> I hope that I can become involved with this list again as I once was. Be 
> patient..and forgiving ;)
> 
> 
> iain short wrote:
> >
> > Dan's flies have landed safe.  Still waiting to hear from Reuven
> >
> > _*
> > *_
> >
> > _*SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap*_
> >
> > If you entered both swaps you only pay postage once.
> > If you entered both swaps dress Different fly's for each swap please.
> >
> > Tie _ELEVEN_ flies, toe tag them,send them to me by the end of august.
> >
> > Enclose 3 US dollars for return postage
> >
> > iain short, 29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington, Northumbria, NE225PT. ENGLAND
> >
> > All flies must be clearly marked second swap !
> >
> > *_Name your fly_*
> >
> > 1. Deb Duran - Peter Ross Variant - - ARRIVED
> > 2. Dan Gober - Professor - - - - - - - ARRIVED
> > 3. Iain Short - Peter Ross  - - - - - - ARRIVED
> > 4. Mark Romero - Mallard and Claret - ARRIVED
> > 5. Garry Smith - Grizzly King - - - - -  ARRIVED FIRST (& wins prize)
> > 6. Reuven Segal -
> > 7. Rene Zillmann - Teal Blue & Silver _**_- ARRIVED
> > 8. George Vincent - Teal & Green - -  ARRIVED
> > 9. David Mason - Guinea Hen  - - - -  ARRIVED
> > 11.Mike Bliss - Liberty - - - - - - - - - ARRIVED
> >
> > 
> > Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live. Find out 
> > more. 
> > >
> 
> > 
  
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Jimmy D. Moore]

Was that "float a Hook?"  :-P

JIMMY D

Rick Zieger wrote:

> "I quickly learned that tails tied using splayed hackle fibers were 
> all that is necessary to float a book, and that the tying 
> thread should be as thins as possible and kept to a minimum."
>  
> Ken Iwamass   Autumn 2009 "Fly Tyer"
>  
> Rick
>
>
>
> >

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[VFB] SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

[iain short]

Reuvens flies are in the post

SECOND
Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
If you entered both swaps you only pay postage
once. 

If you entered both swaps dress Different fly's for each swap please.








Tie ELEVEN flies, toe tag them,send them to me by the end of august.Enclose
3 US dollars for return postage

iain
short, 29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington, Northumbria, NE225PT. ENGLAND

All
flies must be clearly marked second swap !



Name your fly



1. Deb Duran - Peter Ross Variant - - ARRIVED

2. Dan Gober - Professor - - - - - - - ARRIVED

3. Iain Short - Peter Ross  - - - - - - ARRIVED

4. Mark Romero - Mallard and Claret - ARRIVED

5. Garry Smith - Grizzly King - - - - -  ARRIVED FIRST (& wins prize)

6. Reuven Segal - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- -  - - - 
-POSTED

7. Rene Zillmann - Teal Blue & Silver - ARRIVED

8. George Vincent - Teal & Green - -  ARRIVED

9. David Mason - Guinea Hen  - - - -  ARRIVED
11.Mike Bliss - Liberty - - - - - - - - - ARRIVED
  
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[Mark Romero]

Misa and i took a class with Ken Iwamasa (Iwamass, one of those spellings is 
correct?), at the FFF S.C.C. a couple years ago..GREAT 
Class.i'm still tryin' to find his book. Jeff Frye got him to come from 
Colorado and do the Conclave here. Another feather in his cap. If we never 
thanked you Jeff, THANKX! 
 


Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:41:42 -0700
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Subject: [VFB] QFTD
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"I quickly learned that tails tied using splayed hackle fibers were all that is 
necessary to float a book, and that the tying thread should be as thins as 
possible and kept to a minimum."
 
Ken Iwamass   Autumn 2009 "Fly Tyer"
 
Rick 



  
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[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

[Reuven Segal]

Firstly, SHANA TOVA to all.

OK OK guysjust relax a little. The world hasn't collapsed...yet.

I apologise for any issues that may have arisen BUT I have been out of 
touch with EVERYONE because...
1. my computer is Dell crap.
2. I have been pulling 110+ hour weeks for a couple months now
3. my flies were mailed from Bali by a wife who forgot to mail them 
before heading overseas. It has been a month now but if you think the 
mail is a problem, you should try making a phone calll.
I can do nothing about the slow mail, but you should decide what to do.
That being said, and whilst there can be no excuse for not mailing flies 
or keeping in contact, there is no need for a blackballing anyone. We 
are not communist hunters.
I think that I have been fairly consistent over the previous 5 years in 
terms of swaps, having completed over a dozen or so. I think it is the 
same of most people on the list. I think only once my flies didn't make 
it, but things cannot always be controlled.

I hope that I can become involved with this list again as I once was. Be 
patient..and forgiving ;)


iain short wrote:
>
> Dan's flies have landed safe.  Still waiting to hear from Reuven
>
> _*
> *_
>
> _*SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap*_
>
> If you entered both swaps you only pay postage once.
> If you entered both swaps dress Different fly's for each swap please.
>
> Tie _ELEVEN_ flies, toe tag them,send them to me by the end of august.
>
> Enclose 3 US dollars for return postage
>
> iain short, 29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington, Northumbria, NE225PT. ENGLAND
>
> All flies must be clearly marked second swap !
>
> *_Name your fly_*
>
> 1. Deb Duran - Peter Ross Variant - - ARRIVED
> 2. Dan Gober - Professor - - - - - - - ARRIVED
> 3. Iain Short - Peter Ross  - - - - - - ARRIVED
> 4. Mark Romero - Mallard and Claret - ARRIVED
> 5. Garry Smith - Grizzly King - - - - -  ARRIVED FIRST (& wins prize)
> 6. Reuven Segal -
> 7. Rene Zillmann - Teal Blue & Silver _**_- ARRIVED
> 8. George Vincent - Teal & Green - -  ARRIVED
> 9. David Mason - Guinea Hen  - - - -  ARRIVED
> 11.Mike Bliss - Liberty - - - - - - - - - ARRIVED
>
> 
> Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live. Find out 
> more. 
> >

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[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap/Visit in January

[Reuven Segal]

In that case, I will admit to being a toolnot the first time I have 
been called one!

Also, who here is located in NJ, NY or Boston? I would love to catch up 
with you when in the US in January time- permitting.

Catch up later,

The Tool

Neville Gosling wrote:
> Hey Reuven it is good to hear from you at last.  SHANA TOVA to you as well.
>
> You are a good dude and took part in one of my swaps, but this time you
> failed to communicate. Had you done so, it would have been ok. And you know
> what they say about the workman who blames his tools! "nuf said.
>
> Cheers
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling,
> Greater Vancouver, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Reuven Segal
> Sent: September-26-09 7:52 AM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
>
>
> Firstly, SHANA TOVA to all.
>
> OK OK guysjust relax a little. The world hasn't collapsed...yet.
>
> I apologise for any issues that may have arisen BUT I have been out of touch
> with EVERYONE because...
> 1. my computer is Dell crap.
> 2. I have been pulling 110+ hour weeks for a couple months now 3. my flies
> were mailed from Bali by a wife who forgot to mail them before heading
> overseas. It has been a month now but if you think the mail is a problem,
> you should try making a phone calll.
> I can do nothing about the slow mail, but you should decide what to do.
> That being said, and whilst there can be no excuse for not mailing flies or
> keeping in contact, there is no need for a blackballing anyone. We are not
> communist hunters.
> I think that I have been fairly consistent over the previous 5 years in
> terms of swaps, having completed over a dozen or so. I think it is the same
> of most people on the list. I think only once my flies didn't make it, but
> things cannot always be controlled.
>
> I hope that I can become involved with this list again as I once was. Be
> patient..and forgiving ;)
>
>
> iain short wrote:
>   
>> Dan's flies have landed safe.  Still waiting to hear from Reuven
>>
>> _*
>> *_
>>
>> _*SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap*_
>>
>> If you entered both swaps you only pay postage once.
>> If you entered both swaps dress Different fly's for each swap please.
>>
>> Tie _ELEVEN_ flies, toe tag them,send them to me by the end of august.
>>
>> Enclose 3 US dollars for return postage
>>
>> iain short, 29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington, Northumbria, NE225PT. ENGLAND
>>
>> All flies must be clearly marked second swap !
>>
>> *_Name your fly_*
>>
>> 1. Deb Duran - Peter Ross Variant - - ARRIVED
>> 2. Dan Gober - Professor - - - - - - - ARRIVED
>> 3. Iain Short - Peter Ross  - - - - - - ARRIVED
>> 4. Mark Romero - Mallard and Claret - ARRIVED
>> 5. Garry Smith - Grizzly King - - - - -  ARRIVED FIRST (& wins prize)
>> 6. Reuven Segal -
>> 7. Rene Zillmann - Teal Blue & Silver _**_- ARRIVED
>> 8. George Vincent - Teal & Green - -  ARRIVED
>> 9. David Mason - Guinea Hen  - - - -  ARRIVED
>> 11.Mike Bliss - Liberty - - - - - - - - - ARRIVED
>>
>> 
>> Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live. Find out 
>> more. 
>> 
>
>
>
> >
>
>   

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