[VFB] Re: in case
Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] in case Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more. _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Peggy
Peggy.i finished the dry flies tonight..if you find extras of them or anything else in there.it's for you to keep. Ya never know what i might send. Hook: The new Wapsi lable Lightning Strike dry, size 16 Thread: Danville 6/0 Claret.ran out of 8/0 which i would normally use on a hook that small. Original prolly calls for black, but Claret is my trademark color.and looks so much better. Tail: Straw colored spade hackle fibers from a Ralph Graves neck Body: Dubbing, home blended in my coffee grinder...Muskrat and Red wool Wing: Two Golden Badger hackles, also from a Ralph Graves neck, wound one at a time. Pretty little simple dry fly, that was originally tied by Walt Dette for a Mr. Conover.hence it's name, The Conover. Anyone doesn't have the book, (The Dettes) is screwin' up if Catskill style dries is an important thing to you. Tons of history and a great read in general. After all it was written by Eric Leiser, who is a legend himself. He lives in Florida now and no longer is tying.but he's one of the All-Time Catskill giants. Misako and i got to sit at his table with his family at the Hall of Fame dinner when he was inducted into the Catskill Fly Fishing Center and Museum's Hall of Fame. We just lucked up on the seating. i got to watch him tye a few times in Roscoe and N.Y.C. His all time favortie single fly for fishing if he could only use one, is the Chuck Caddis. His own design of course. If you don't have it..get the book. You'll be glad you did. _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Don
Yeah, sure Bernard. ”Exactly like Don’s”. I’d like to see that. In his dreams maybe. Sorry Jimmy. You were too late with Joke For The Day. Already posted and you won’t be able to top it either. LOL I’d doubt very strongly that if this guy WAS ABLE to do it “exactly as Don’s”, he wouldn’t be the man who felt the urge enough to steal a photo with another man’s fly so he could show it on an internet forum. Just can’t see it as a respected man’s move to get that desperate. It’s not that hard to identify idiots when you see them beside their actions. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Mark Romero Skickat: den 10 november 2009 03:45 Till: virtual fly box Ämne: [VFB] Don Don, i got an email from the guy after i banned him, apoligising and saying that he had tyed one exactly like yours, but that his camera was messed up and he couldn't take a pic of it, so he used yours as a substitute.jeeze.that sounds a bit fishy to me. It could be true.but i dunno. And even if it is true.that was a very thoughtless move on his part. After all, this IS the internet. Btw, are you comming to Sowbug this year or not.cause i heard this guy is an invited tyer. Maybe you can talk it over with him and see how you feel bout the guy..i won't unban him tilwell, i guess we'll see. i'll alert you to when i have written something at the site. Then you tell me what you think. Ok? Tkx., mark. http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT _MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Don
FYI, for this other similar issues, I know a mad wop w/ a baseball bat. J From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Niclas Runarsson Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 5:46 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Don Yeah, sure Bernard. ”Exactly like Don’s”. I’d like to see that. In his dreams maybe. Sorry Jimmy. You were too late with Joke For The Day. Already posted and you won’t be able to top it either. LOL I’d doubt very strongly that if this guy WAS ABLE to do it “exactly as Don’s”, he wouldn’t be the man who felt the urge enough to steal a photo with another man’s fly so he could show it on an internet forum. Just can’t see it as a respected man’s move to get that desperate. It’s not that hard to identify idiots when you see them beside their actions. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Mark Romero Skickat: den 10 november 2009 03:45 Till: virtual fly box Ämne: [VFB] Don Don, i got an email from the guy after i banned him, apoligising and saying that he had tyed one exactly like yours, but that his camera was messed up and he couldn't take a pic of it, so he used yours as a substitute.jeeze.that sounds a bit fishy to me. It could be true.but i dunno. And even if it is true.that was a very thoughtless move on his part. After all, this IS the internet. Btw, are you comming to Sowbug this year or not.cause i heard this guy is an invited tyer. Maybe you can talk it over with him and see how you feel bout the guy..i won't unban him tilwell, i guess we'll see. i'll alert you to when i have written something at the site. Then you tell me what you think. Ok? Tkx., mark. http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT _MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/09/09 19:40:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Don, Nick.....
i just wrote a piece about the problem/situation at my site. It's on the Forum page under the title Plagerisum. Everyone should perfectly understand now, as to why i hadda ban the guy, PERMANATELY. Good luck with work today Don. _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Business card swap. Was wondering pls read everybody
Thanks for the kuddos on the Titanic. I'm having a lot of fun adapting it to all sorts of fish and the possibitlities seem endless. -- Jay Paulson Amazing Flies www.amazingflies.com - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Business card swap. Was wondering pls read everybody Ditto From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Business card swap. Was wondering pls read everybody Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:07:50 -0700 J. Went to your site. Very nice flies. DonO - Original Message - From: J Paulson rustyh...@centurytel.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Business card swap. Was wondering pls read everybody I'd be interested. BTW, you can buy Clean Edge business card paper at places like Staples and print out as you need them, instead of paying for a card run... -- Jay Paulson Amazing Flies www.amazingflies.com - Original Message - From: mystikalra...@frontiernet.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 9:16 AM Subject: [VFB] Business card swap. Was wondering pls read everybody mystikalra...@frontiernet.net wrote: I was wondering how many of us fly tyers have business cards made up??? was thinking of doing a swap of business cards how does that sound lol?? I am looking at making my own so gives me ideas lol so what do you think and if it is a go for the swap ill have some made up by the time to send back lol so everybody pls let me know i have one sent by email already lol but would like to get some hard copies i know there not really cheap but think it would be a great thing for all of us lol ok so let me know how many we have and we will go from there thank you all also i would like to give credit for this idea it came from a card that i got in a swap a while ago it came from Peggy Brenner and it just gave me the idea again thank you Peggy Patrick Harnish Myrtle Creek --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Business card swap. Was wondering pls read everybody
J.P., here's a quote for ya. Once an idea goes forth, it no longer belongs to those who brought forth the idea. It belongs to the world.to UTILIZE! Art Blakey... in the litteral sense he was refering to Jazz..and what it represnts, as an idea which is HUGE! But in the figutive sense..he was refering to all positive concepts and forces for change for the betterment of mankind.human kind. He always said, There's only one race.HUMAN race. ..you dig? p.s. seems you be, Utilizin'. From: rustyh...@centurytel.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Business card swap. Was wondering pls read everybody Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:21:09 -0800 Thanks for the kuddos on the Titanic. I'm having a lot of fun adapting it to all sorts of fish and the possibitlities seem endless. -- Jay Paulson Amazing Flies www.amazingflies.com - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Business card swap. Was wondering pls read everybody Ditto From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Business card swap. Was wondering pls read everybody Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:07:50 -0700 J. Went to your site. Very nice flies. DonO - Original Message - From: J Paulson rustyh...@centurytel.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Business card swap. Was wondering pls read everybody I'd be interested. BTW, you can buy Clean Edge business card paper at places like Staples and print out as you need them, instead of paying for a card run... -- Jay Paulson Amazing Flies www.amazingflies.com - Original Message - From: mystikalra...@frontiernet.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 9:16 AM Subject: [VFB] Business card swap. Was wondering pls read everybody mystikalra...@frontiernet.net wrote: I was wondering how many of us fly tyers have business cards made up??? was thinking of doing a swap of business cards how does that sound lol?? I am looking at making my own so gives me ideas lol so what do you think and if it is a go for the swap ill have some made up by the time to send back lol so everybody pls let me know i have one sent by email already lol but would like to get some hard copies i know there not really cheap but think it would be a great thing for all of us lol ok so let me know how many we have and we will go from there thank you all also i would like to give credit for this idea it came from a card that i got in a swap a while ago it came from Peggy Brenner and it just gave me the idea again thank you Peggy Patrick Harnish Myrtle Creek /HTMLBR _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case
Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] in case Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more. /html _ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case
Spoken by a man who has done just that! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of iain short Sent: November 10, 2009 9:42 AM To: VFB-new Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. _ From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case
Iain, i've twisted a lot of gut over the last few years.i know the process.and i never said it was hardit IS a piece of cake... What i said IS, it's time consumming. And i simply don' t have the time for that. Plus i'm set for life on gut now. i can't live long enough to use all i have. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:42:22 + Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] in case Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more. /html Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. Find out how. _ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wlfilt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000cat=1,2,3,4,5,6brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16addf=4,5,9ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case
btw, boiling water aint cool.luke warm is better. not all gut is the same and you need to keep an eye on it til it's just right. Some only needs a half hour to soak.some needs 2 hours.all depends. From: nev.gosl...@shaw.ca To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:47:52 -0800 Spoken by a man who has done just that! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of iain short Sent: November 10, 2009 9:42 AM To: VFB-new Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
FW: [VFB] Re: in case
btw, boiling water aint cool.luke warm is better. not all gut is the same and you need to keep an eye on it til it's just right. Some only needs a half hour to soak.some needs 2 hours.all depends. From: nev.gosl...@shaw.ca To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:47:52 -0800 Spoken by a man who has done just that! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of iain short Sent: November 10, 2009 9:42 AM To: VFB-new Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case
When using the term gut, is it always a natural product? I mean- how do I know it is suitable? Iain- is the vet gut sutures actually made from animal gut or is it a different product similar in looks to gut string? R Mark Romero wrote: Iain, i've twisted a lot of gut over the last few years.i know the process.and i never said it was hardit IS a piece of cake... What i said IS, it's time consumming. And i simply don' t have the time for that. Plus i'm set for life on gut now. i can't live long enough to use all i have. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:42:22 + Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] in case Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009 Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/ /html Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. Find out how. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] VFB Moderator
Afternoon VFB'ers: I'm not currently the VFB Moderator, and haven't been for the last year, when I quit out of Frustration. However, somebody needs to say a few words about serial posts. I'm talking about the kind that are between two or more VFB'ers who constantly talk back and forth and back and forth to each other VIA the VFB List, along with numerous ATTA BOYS from others putting in their 2 cents worth. In just the last few days I've deleted over 300 VFB emails. Things would be better for all of us if these conversations were OFF LIST. And, that isn't hard to do. All you have to do is use pull all the e-mail addresses into the address line and hit send. For ensuing posts all you'd need to do afterward is hit reply all and leave the VFB out of it. Signing up for a Swap is different, because there's always a lot of traffic and updates until the swap is full, then when all communication is usually moved OFF LIST as it should be. . I've received several OFF LIST e-mails complaining about the Serial Posts and asking me to say a few words. OK, I heard you and I did say a few words. Some of you will want to give me an Atta Boy, and some will want to kick my butt, but Guys, but whatever you do, please do it OFF LIST. To quote Byard on the purpose of the VFB email list: The Virtual Flybox Mailing List is designed to be a forum in which members can post announcements for new fly swaps and discuss flytying and flyfishing topics. He didn't say anything about casual bante rand poking fun at each other. Too much technical stuff with no play/banter/kidding, makes for a very dry VFB. One last point! In the not distant past, the VFB had over 600 members. As of last week it had only 220. Something's Outta Kilter somewhere. JIMMY D Former VFB Moderator. º * JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT- FREE Classic Antique Golf Club Evaluation Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret. Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy)
I'm with Jimmy on this one. I need to get some value from that many e-mails. Otherwise Facebook or an IM might be a better place for that kind of stuff. There are folks that used to be regulars on here that are gone form the list. I know that they are alive because I still get private e-mail from them. That said, I know several years ago, we had a thread on tube flies going. I am now actually interested tube flies and am wondering if anybody can: 1. list me what they see to be the advantages/disadvantages of tube flies 2. Best applications for tube flies such as patterns that this style would work well on 3. Any resources for info like web sites or books you might know of 4. Anything else you might want to share with the group Thanks in advance for any help you might provide to the group --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Tube Flies
Jeff: I'd also like to know about them. I have never tied one and am not sure to how to go about it. Can tube flies be used for smaller flies like nymphs and not just streamers? Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: Jeff Frye To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:20 PM Subject: [VFB] Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy) I'm with Jimmy on this one. I need to get some value from that many e-mails. Otherwise Facebook or an IM might be a better place for that kind of stuff. There are folks that used to be regulars on here that are gone form the list. I know that they are alive because I still get private e-mail from them. That said, I know several years ago, we had a thread on tube flies going. I am now actually interested tube flies and am wondering if anybody can: 1. list me what they see to be the advantages/disadvantages of tube flies 2. Best applications for tube flies such as patterns that this style would work well on 3. Any resources for info like web sites or books you might know of 4. Anything else you might want to share with the group Thanks in advance for any help you might provide to the group -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.59/2494 - Release Date: 11/10/09 07:38:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case
Mark or Iain, I don't tie with blind eyes so tell me why do you twist the gut to make the eye? Does it keep it from closing or what? Mike On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.comwrote: Iain, i've twisted a lot of gut over the last few years.i know the process.and i never said it was hardit IS a piece of cake... What i said IS, it's time consumming. And i simply don' t have the time for that. Plus i'm set for life on gut now. i can't live long enough to use all i have. -- From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:42:22 + Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. -- From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. -- From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. iain -- From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] in case Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol -- Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more.http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009 -- Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more.http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/ /html -- Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. Find out how. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy)
Jeff As a warmwater guy, you would be interested in this: http://www.hmhvises.com/tubeflyguide.pdf - convertables tube flies can be tied large, without the large, long shank hook which the fish can use for leverage to throw the hook. When a fish swallows your hook (wake up, Jeff!), you just cut off the hook and get to keep the fly. Fish doesn't chew on your fly when it slides up the leader away from the hook. And best of all, you get to develop a new obsession, complete with having to accumulate a whole bunch of new stuff. Jack Austin Jeff Frye wrote: I'm with Jimmy on this one. I need to get some value from that many e-mails. Otherwise Facebook or an IM might be a better place for that kind of stuff. There are folks that used to be regulars on here that are gone form the list. I know that they are alive because I still get private e-mail from them. That said, I know several years ago, we had a thread on tube flies going. I am now actually interested tube flies and am wondering if anybody can: 1. list me what they see to be the advantages/disadvantages of tube flies 2. Best applications for tube flies such as patterns that this style would work well on 3. Any resources for info like web sites or books you might know of 4. Anything else you might want to share with the group Thanks in advance for any help you might provide to the group ** --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: VFB Moderator
Atta boy chuck - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: Virtual Fly Box Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:45 PM Subject: [VFB] VFB Moderator Afternoon VFB'ers: I'm not currently the VFB Moderator, and haven't been for the last year, when I quit out of Frustration. However, somebody needs to say a few words about serial posts. I'm talking about the kind that are between two or more VFB'ers who constantly talk back and forth and back and forth to each other VIA the VFB List, along with numerous ATTA BOYS from others putting in their 2 cents worth. In just the last few days I've deleted over 300 VFB emails. Things would be better for all of us if these conversations were OFF LIST. And, that isn't hard to do. All you have to do is use pull all the e-mail addresses into the address line and hit send. For ensuing posts all you'd need to do afterward is hit reply all and leave the VFB out of it. Signing up for a Swap is different, because there's always a lot of traffic and updates until the swap is full, then when all communication is usually moved OFF LIST as it should be. . I've received several OFF LIST e-mails complaining about the Serial Posts and asking me to say a few words. OK, I heard you and I did say a few words. Some of you will want to give me an Atta Boy, and some will want to kick my butt, but Guys, but whatever you do, please do it OFF LIST. To quote Byard on the purpose of the VFB email list: The Virtual Flybox Mailing List is designed to be a forum in which members can post announcements for new fly swaps and discuss flytying and flyfishing topics. He didn't say anything about casual bante rand poking fun at each other. Too much technical stuff with no play/banter/kidding, makes for a very dry VFB. One last point! In the not distant past, the VFB had over 600 members. As of last week it had only 220. Something's Outta Kilter somewhere. JIMMY D Former VFB Moderator. º * JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT- FREE Classic Antique Golf Club Evaluation Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret. Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] The eleventh day of the eleventh month, Not what you expect
From my Viet Nam Vet Friend Woods, Jimi USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service... The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him. G.K. Chesterton If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense Alexander Hamilton You are free to use as you see fit The eleventh day of the eleventh month By Woods Houghton The eleventh day of the eleventh month, The day is Veterans Day Why this day To take off time to play No! It is this day To stop and pray For those who have served, Those who are serving The family of those who gave everything to serve It was at the eleventh hour on the eleventh day of the eleven month Generals, Commanders, and the brass gathered To sign the end of the Great War The war to end all wars Almost 100 years ago It was not the end of all wars As a family at a small country Church gather Yes, another son will live without a father, Another good woman will live without a husband As the flag is folded and place in her hand A tear runs down the face of the man from whose hand it came The bugle makes it last call For the brave young man who answered the same call As those before It seem so inadequate to say Thank you for your sacrifice today So, take the time To give as they have given A moment at the eleventh hour Of the eleventh day Of the eleventh month To pray for those who serve Those left behind Those who will grow up alone Today, Veterans Day --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: The eleventh day of the eleventh month, Not what you expect
Thank you Jimi. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: Desert Eagle j...@hdc-nm.com To: VFB vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 5:28 PM Subject: [VFB] The eleventh day of the eleventh month, Not what you expect From my Viet Nam Vet Friend Woods, Jimi USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service... The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him. G.K. Chesterton If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense Alexander Hamilton You are free to use as you see fit The eleventh day of the eleventh month By Woods Houghton The eleventh day of the eleventh month, The day is Veterans Day Why this day To take off time to play No! It is this day To stop and pray For those who have served, Those who are serving The family of those who gave everything to serve It was at the eleventh hour on the eleventh day of the eleven month Generals, Commanders, and the brass gathered To sign the end of the Great War The war to end all wars Almost 100 years ago It was not the end of all wars As a family at a small country Church gather Yes, another son will live without a father, Another good woman will live without a husband As the flag is folded and place in her hand A tear runs down the face of the man from whose hand it came The bugle makes it last call For the brave young man who answered the same call As those before It seem so inadequate to say Thank you for your sacrifice today So, take the time To give as they have given A moment at the eleventh hour Of the eleventh day Of the eleventh month To pray for those who serve Those left behind Those who will grow up alone Today, Veterans Day No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.59/2494 - Release Date: 11/10/09 07:38:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] news
Computyer at home is on the frits. will need a guru to fix it. Vitural memory is gone. Have to brag. I have a pteren in the latest Fly Fish America. Rick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: news
What is a pteren, pray tell Who stole you virtual memory? Do you have a back-up system? Buggs - Original Message - From: Rick Zieger To: VFB ; flyfishingworld ; flytyingandfishing Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 7:13 PM Subject: [VFB] news Computyer at home is on the frits. will need a guru to fix it. Vitural memory is gone. Have to brag. I have a pteren in the latest Fly Fish America. Rick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy)
Jeff, get ken Sawada's book on tube flies. Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:20:20 -0800 From: bighawk...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy) To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com I'm with Jimmy on this one. I need to get some value from that many e-mails. Otherwise Facebook or an IM might be a better place for that kind of stuff. There are folks that used to be regulars on here that are gone form the list. I know that they are alive because I still get private e-mail from them. That said, I know several years ago, we had a thread on tube flies going. I am now actually interested tube flies and am wondering if anybody can: 1. list me what they see to be the advantages/disadvantages of tube flies 2. Best applications for tube flies such as patterns that this style would work well on 3. Any resources for info like web sites or books you might know of 4. Anything else you might want to share with the group Thanks in advance for any help you might provide to the group _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case
Mike, the main reason they did it way back when, (the twisting), is because it made the eye stronger. They use as many strands (in the twist) as was nessessary so as to make the fly asthetically pleasing in it's looks based on the diameter of the hook wire. The larger the diameter, the more strands were used. Most all gut that was prepared for using with blind eye hooks, was either two, three or four strand.obviously for thin, thicker and thickest hooks, diameter of the wire itself. Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:22:32 -1000 Subject: [VFB] Re: in case From: flyfish...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Mark or Iain, I don't tie with blind eyes so tell me why do you twist the gut to make the eye? Does it keep it from closing or what? Mike On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: Iain, i've twisted a lot of gut over the last few years.i know the process.and i never said it was hardit IS a piece of cake... What i said IS, it's time consumming. And i simply don' t have the time for that. Plus i'm set for life on gut now. i can't live long enough to use all i have. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:42:22 + Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] in case Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more. /html Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. Find out how. -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii _ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wlfilt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000cat=1,2,3,4,5,6brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16addf=4,5,9ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case
Mike, also way back in the days.when most all blind eye hooks had squared off hook shanks and no tapers.the gut was usually tyed in almost the complete length of ther shank..so as to make it less likely to pull out while fighting big fish. But with the advent of tapered hooks and specially since we most often do not fish these flies.the guy in most often nowdays, only tyed in to fit inside the taper. Which is why, when you are sucking on it to prepare it for shaping into a neat little ring to make the eye, you should also nibble on the two tags ends. You just bite right on both ends to fray them and prepare them for seperation, so you can stager your cuts. You wanna trim the gut on a taper to keep the taper on the hooks smooth and even. So say you have three strands on the piece your working with.after you get it bout half way lashed down.you seperate the strands and make graduated cuts of the three strands individually and continue lashing. That's how you keep a nice taper for your body. Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:22:32 -1000 Subject: [VFB] Re: in case From: flyfish...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Mark or Iain, I don't tie with blind eyes so tell me why do you twist the gut to make the eye? Does it keep it from closing or what? Mike On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: Iain, i've twisted a lot of gut over the last few years.i know the process.and i never said it was hardit IS a piece of cake... What i said IS, it's time consumming. And i simply don' t have the time for that. Plus i'm set for life on gut now. i can't live long enough to use all i have. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:42:22 + Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] in case Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more. /html Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. Find out how. -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii _ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wlfilt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000cat=1,2,3,4,5,6brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16addf=4,5,9ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy)
Mark, can you help with a title on that one? I find nothing by him on tube flies, only salmon flies. From: Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 9:39:36 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy) Jeff, get ken Sawada's book on tube flies. Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:20:20 -0800 From: bighawk...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy) To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com I'm with Jimmy on this one. I need to get some value from that many e-mails. Otherwise Facebook or an IM might be a better place for that kind of stuff. There are folks that used to be regulars on here that are gone form the list. I know that they are alive because I still get private e-mail from them. That said, I know several years ago, we had a thread on tube flies going. I am now actually interested tube flies and am wondering if anybody can: 1. list me what they see to be the advantages/disadvantages of tube flies 2. Best applications for tube flies such as patterns that this style would work well on 3. Any resources for info like web sites or books you might know of 4. Anything else you might want to share with the group Thanks in advance for any help you might provide to the group --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] RE: Nick Runarsson replied to a discussion on PURE Art Fly Tying
Nick, thankx for posting those pics at my site. WAY Cool. Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:46:38 + From: m...@pureartflytying.ning.com To: markflie...@hotmail.com Subject: Nick Runarsson replied to a discussion on PURE Art Fly Tying Nick Runarsson replied to the discussion Plagerisum. on PURE Art Fly Tying To view the new reply, visit: http://pureartflytying.ning.com/xn/detail/2670570:Comment:6037 -- To stop following this discussion, go to: http://pureartflytying.ning.com/forum/topics/plagerisum-1?unfollow=1 _ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wlfilt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000cat=1,2,3,4,5,6brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16addf=4,5,9ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy)
He has 4 books out.2 on Salmon flies, 1 on wets, and one on tube flies. Later i'll go downstairs and find the tube flies book, and send you/post the info. Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:58:44 -0800 From: bighawk...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy) To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Mark, can you help with a title on that one? I find nothing by him on tube flies, only salmon flies. From: Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 9:39:36 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy) Jeff, get ken Sawada's book on tube flies. Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:20:20 -0800 From: bighawk...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy) To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com I'm with Jimmy on this one. I need to get some value from that many e-mails. Otherwise Facebook or an IM might be a better place for that kind of stuff. There are folks that used to be regulars on here that are gone form the list. I know that they are alive because I still get private e-mail from them. That said, I know several years ago, we had a thread on tube flies going. I am now actually interested tube flies and am wondering if anybody can: 1. list me what they see to be the advantages/disadvantages of tube flies 2. Best applications for tube flies such as patterns that this style would work well on 3. Any resources for info like web sites or books you might know of 4. Anything else you might want to share with the group Thanks in advance for any help you might provide to the group _ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wlfilt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000cat=1,2,3,4,5,6brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16addf=4,5,9ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Please remember Allan Fish and Family in your prayers.....
Folks: Please remember to keep Allan Fish and family in your thoughts and prayers as he has gone to Louisiana for his sister's funeral. She passed away a cpl days ago, so please remember them in the next days, week, and months to come, as well as for a safe trip home. Thanks, Chuck --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case now silk eyes
If you have difficulty getting gut for eyes you can always make furled cream silk eyes. (Practice on cheap sewing thread) They look OK framed but I wouldnt fish them. use similar method to furled leaders. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:54:07 -0700 Mike, also way back in the days.when most all blind eye hooks had squared off hook shanks and no tapers.the gut was usually tyed in almost the complete length of ther shank..so as to make it less likely to pull out while fighting big fish. But with the advent of tapered hooks and specially since we most often do not fish these flies.the guy in most often nowdays, only tyed in to fit inside the taper. Which is why, when you are sucking on it to prepare it for shaping into a neat little ring to make the eye, you should also nibble on the two tags ends. You just bite right on both ends to fray them and prepare them for seperation, so you can stager your cuts. You wanna trim the gut on a taper to keep the taper on the hooks smooth and even. So say you have three strands on the piece your working with.after you get it bout half way lashed down.you seperate the strands and make graduated cuts of the three strands individually and continue lashing. That's how you keep a nice taper for your body. Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:22:32 -1000 Subject: [VFB] Re: in case From: flyfish...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Mark or Iain, I don't tie with blind eyes so tell me why do you twist the gut to make the eye? Does it keep it from closing or what? Mike On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: Iain, i've twisted a lot of gut over the last few years.i know the process.and i never said it was hardit IS a piece of cake... What i said IS, it's time consumming. And i simply don' t have the time for that. Plus i'm set for life on gut now. i can't live long enough to use all i have. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:42:22 + Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] in case Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more. /html Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. Find out how. -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii /html _ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy)
Jeff, Did you get my email off list? DonO - Original Message - From: Jeff Frye To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:20 PM Subject: [VFB] Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy) I'm with Jimmy on this one. I need to get some value from that many e-mails. Otherwise Facebook or an IM might be a better place for that kind of stuff. There are folks that used to be regulars on here that are gone form the list. I know that they are alive because I still get private e-mail from them. That said, I know several years ago, we had a thread on tube flies going. I am now actually interested tube flies and am wondering if anybody can: 1. list me what they see to be the advantages/disadvantages of tube flies 2. Best applications for tube flies such as patterns that this style would work well on 3. Any resources for info like web sites or books you might know of 4. Anything else you might want to share with the group Thanks in advance for any help you might provide to the group -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case now silk eyes
That sounds totally cool Iainthass another cool thing bout Artiostic fly tying...there are no rules.you can do anything. Well, there is one ruleyou MUST have funBIG FUN! After all, if you aint havin' no fun.why you doin' it? i've used all kinna difernet stuff to twist into eye materials.fly line backing, mono, furled leader, whatever.it's all fun. The deal is to use your imagination...after all, you got one. From: iainsh...@hotmail.comed To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case now silk eyes Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:30:34 + If you have difficulty getting gut for eyes you can always make furled cream silk eyes. (Practice on cheap sewing thread) They look OK framed but I wouldnt fish them. use similar method to furled leaders. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:54:07 -0700 Mike, also way back in the days.when most all blind eye hooks had squared off hook shanks and no tapers.the gut was usually tyed in almost the complete length of ther shank..so as to make it less likely to pull out while fighting big fish. But with the advent of tapered hooks and specially since we most often do not fish these flies.the guy in most often nowdays, only tyed in to fit inside the taper. Which is why, when you are sucking on it to prepare it for shaping into a neat little ring to make the eye, you should also nibble on the two tags ends. You just bite right on both ends to fray them and prepare them for seperation, so you can stager your cuts. You wanna trim the gut on a taper to keep the taper on the hooks smooth and even. So say you have three strands on the piece your working with.after you get it bout half way lashed down.you seperate the strands and make graduated cuts of the three strands individually and continue lashing. That's how you keep a nice taper for your body. Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:22:32 -1000 Subject: [VFB] Re: in case From: flyfish...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Mark or Iain, I don't tie with blind eyes so tell me why do you twist the gut to make the eye? Does it keep it from closing or what? Mike On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: Iain, i've twisted a lot of gut over the last few years.i know the process.and i never said it was hardit IS a piece of cake... What i said IS, it's time consumming. And i simply don' t have the time for that. Plus i'm set for life on gut now. i can't live long enough to use all i have. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:42:22 + Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] in case Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more. /html Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. Find out how. -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii /html Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to
