RE: [VFB] Roll call

2012-08-12 Thread George Vincent
Still here, lurking. Haven't had much to say!

George Vincent
Maryland 

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Subject: [VFB] Roll call

Here! but I'd rather be fishin'

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver
BC Canada

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RE: [VFB] Anyone familar with a Universal #2 vice

2012-05-21 Thread George Vincent
Looks like an old Herter's vice, but I believe the Herter's vice was red
with a black knob and shaft.

George Vincent 

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Subject: [VFB] Anyone familar with a Universal #2 vice

Just received one of these and know nothing about them. Was told it was a
rare antique, so as it may be?
Jimi 

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RE: [VFB] summer time swap

2012-05-10 Thread George Vincent
I would also be interested.
 
George Vincent

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Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:09 PM
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Subject: [VFB] summer time swap



I'm thinking about hosting a 2012 Summertime Hopper Fly Swap.
 
Is there any interest? Also if it makes we will tye one extra to donate
to a silent auction for Children's Hospital in Little Rock.

Jerry McKaughan
P.O. Box 85
Pottsville, AR 72858
www.caddisflyfishers.org

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RE: [VFB] Mark Martin Midge

2012-04-29 Thread George Vincent
What works for me is NO strike indicator. I use a modified Czech / European
nymphing technique.
 
The Zebra midge is my "GO TO" fly.
 
George V

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Mark Martin Midge


Nev,
I have never mastered the art of fishing these Chironomid flies. I have a
fishing partner that is a wiz at it.
I don't know if you met him when you was here, his name is Dean.
He can catch 10 trout to my one even though I use his flies. I just am not
comfortable fishing a strike indicator (Bobber)
Tony

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Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:36 PM
Subject: [VFB] Mark Martin Midge



Hi Chuck: 

I'm sure it would work. Chironomid fishing is quite an art and can be
extremely frustrating.  There are many times when I have caught nothing and
other times when the fish obliged. I don't claim to be very good at it. I am
going to a lake that I have never fished or even seen before, but it has a
reputation for good chironomid fishing in the early part of the season. The
water is very clear and the drop-off from the shoals can be steep and very
deep. A 50 foot anchor line is considered to be too short. Normally, the
fish are in the shallower water after ice out however we are talking using a
floating line and 20 - 25 foot leaders. Some people use self releasing
strike indicators, but this does not appeal to me. When the fish are deep,
some people just use a sinking line and cast out a measured amount so that
the chironomid fly is a foot to 18 inches off the bottom and just leave it
there, moving it occasionally.  This can be in 40 feet of water.
Apparently, takes can be so violent that rods have been pulled overboard.
For me, the biggest problem is finding the fish and the second biggest
problem is finding the fly they will take.  This is why I am going down in
size.

Neville (Nev) Gosling




On 2012-04-28, at 5:11 PM, Chuck Alexander wrote:



Here's my "Mark Martin Midge" I tied in his "Go Army" colors when he drove
for the Army and I meistered a NASCAR swap, but this fly pattern would
probably work for ya, Chuck



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RE: [VFB] Collapsibe Eye Needles

2012-04-18 Thread George Vincent
I use  
G-U-M Eez-Thru Floss Threaders, 25 ea$3.29  
Floss Threaders available at drugstores and WalMart. A package of 25 is
about $3. They are used by people with braces to get the floss between all
the metal hardware in their mouths.
 
I have had a package for several years and have given many away to others in
need of a threader at tying events.
 
George Vincent

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Subject: [VFB] Collapsibe Eye Needles


Another alternative is to purchase a collapsible eye needle from Michaels
and  solder to a suitable handle or similar tool.

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RE: [VFB] Jimmy D & Sowbug

2012-03-23 Thread George Vincent
Jimmy, this sounds like a good time to sit, contemplate and finish the
companion volume to "Moon Holler Misfits."
 
I have been anxiously waiting for the second volume since 2004!
 
George Vincent
 
BTW, I still have the key fob on my key chain from the 2002 VFB Retiree
Swap.

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From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:38 PM
To: Virtual Fly Box
Subject: [VFB] Jimmy D & Sowbug


There's been some discussion among my fly tying friends as to why I missed
Sowbug this year.  There are several reasons: I just turned 75 and Jody
won't
let me make long trips alone.  Allan offered to fly down and ride up with
me,
but I wouldn't hear of that, although it places him at the top of my Best
Friend
list. :-) Secondly, My feet and ankles have deterioriated to the point that
when I
go to Walmart or the grocery, I grab one of those instore electric scooters.
I
can walk, but lots of pain afterwards.  Thirdly, my lower left back gives me
hell.  I go to the Chiropractor once a week.  He straightens me out and I'm
good for the week, but always do something Dumb to throw it out again.
Like unloading hay for Calico or putting Christmas boxes up high on storage
shelves.  Doesn't hurt to play golf, but if I swing too hard, I fall on my
butt. :-[ 

Lastly, I have a tremor problem with my hands. My doc says  it's not
Parkinsons, 
thank the Lord.  He called it Essential Tremor. He said an essential tremor,
is one 
that comes on gradually, with no known cause. Told me that some types of
essential 
hand tremors are hereditary. My Mom had them as did her father. Never seemed

to really bother them. Good news is that they do not indicate a serious
condition, but 
they sure can be frustrating, especially when tying flies. In general, they
don't appear 
when my hand is at rest and are more obvious if my hand is held in a
position that is
uncomfortable, or if I get frustrated. Kind of wringing of the hands, but
I've always 
done that.  Funny thing about it is that when the tremor comes, I can
"think" stop and
 it will stop. Doc was amazed at this and said he'd never seen it before. I
can also keep 
the tremor from coming on just by thinking it away, like when I'm tying
flies. But still hard 
to concentrate on two things at once. ;-) 

Bueno Rises.

JIMMY D




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RE: [VFB] Antron Question???

2012-03-10 Thread George Vincent
It is definitely poly yarn. Looks exactly like what I have from Hook and
Hackle and the price is right. Antron is a little more expensive and Zelon
is pricier still.
 
I use it for spent wings and parachute posts.
 
George Vincent

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Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 12:02 AM
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Subject: [VFB] Antron Question???


Folks: I have a question?? I have been using this material I have several
"cards" of on a fly (pic attached) I have been experimenting with, and I
thought the material is antron, but now I'm not so sure. I bought it on sale
several years ago for about 3 cards for a dollar, and as you can see, it's
not marked, and I have forgotten exactly what it's called. Is it actually
antron?? Or something totally different?? It makes great dragonfly wings etc
as you can see. Thanks a lot, Chuck
 
 
 
Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at:
  
http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ
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RE: [VFB] Home made dubbing question, Proportions

2012-02-28 Thread George Vincent
Just straighten out a paper clip and leave a curve on one end. Makes a
simple easy to use dubbing loop tool. 

Or use a cup hook threaded into a small brass door knob. 

George Vincent

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Home made dubbing question, Proportions

any suggestion on a good dubbing loop tool?

On 2/28/12, Robert Morger  wrote:
> I have used it in a loop but I don't really favor that technique 
> mainly cause I don't have a dubbing loop tool and am too lazy to make 
> one 8^)
>
> On 2/28/12, Rick Zieger  wrote:
>> Have you thought about putting it in a dubbing loop or making a 
>> dubbing brush with it?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: Robert Morger 
>> To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com" ; 
>> flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish 
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:15 AM
>> Subject: [VFB] Home made dubbing question, Proportions
>>
>> I made up a bunch of dubbing recently using about 50% poly yarn and 
>> 40% rabbit fur or mink fur (Guard hairs intact) and 10% shiny stuff, 
>> the colors came out nice but the mix is a bear to get to cling to the 
>> thread.
>>
>> So  my question is how much underfur to coarse or synthetic mix 
>> should be blended to make a mix that wraps well on the thread?
>>
>>
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>> Robert Morger
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RE: [VFB] Other types of fishing besides fly fishing and how much gear do you still have?

2012-01-28 Thread George Vincent
Wayne, why keep the bait casting gear? when you can always put garden
hackle or a minnow on a hook using a fly rod and have the best of both
worlds!

George V.

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RE: [VFB] Other types of fishing besides fly fishing and how much gear do you still have?

2012-01-28 Thread George Vincent
Wayne, why keep the bait casting gear? when you can always put garden hackle
or a minnow on a hook using a fly rod and have the best of both worlds!
 
George V.

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*   Other types  <> of fishing besides fly fishing and how much gear do
you still have? [7 Updates] 

*   Dangit - VFB  <> posts not coming through. See below [1 Update] 

*   QUOTE FOR  <> THE DAY 1/27/12 [1 Update] 

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*   For VFBers  <> who fish in bear country... [4 Updates] 

 Other types of fishing besides fly fishing and how much gear do
<http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail/t/812661948bdcdd97> you still have?

Wayne Blake-Hedges  Jan 27 04:28PM -0800  

Hi All;
 
Just curious do most people in this group use only fly fishing gear? If your
a convert, did you keep your other gear or dispose of it?  I just started
selling off my baitcasting gear but will probably keep some of it.
 
 
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Michael Bliss  Jan 27 03:07PM -1000  

When I started flyfishing I never wanted to go back so all of mine is gone.
 
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges
 
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Aloha from Hawaii


 

"The Smiths"  Jan 27 09:09PM -0500  

I do keep a couple of spinning rod for kids. all of my personal gear is fly
fishing and has been for the last 60 years.
Gary S
 
 
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From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
To: virtual flybox 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 7:28 PM
Subject: [VFB] RE: Other types of fishing besides fly fishing and how much
gear do you still have?
 
 
Hi All;
 
Just curious do most people in this group use only fly fishing gear? If your
a convert, did you keep your other gear or dispose of it? I just started
selling off my baitcasting gear but will probably keep some of it.
 
 
 
 
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Jack Lehman  Jan 27 08:13PM -0600  

Flies aren't always the best way to approach a fish. I'm probably 80-20 
flies. Deep water, heavy surf, bait, winds are just some of the reasons 
to slide to the darkside.
 
jack
Austin
 
On 1/27/2012 6:28 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote:


 

 Jan 27 09:33PM -0500  

still have all of my spinning gear, and use it on occasion, prob 10-15 %.
Would never get rid of it...
 
Ron


 

"Chuck Alexander"  Jan 27 10:10PM
-0600  

I kept a cpl of heavy rod and reel combos for TRYING to catch some of the
HUGE catfish in the rivers here, but never do use them. I bet the line is
probably rotted on them by now, Chuck
 
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From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
To: virtual flybox 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 6:28 PM
Subject: [VFB] RE: Other types of fishing besides fly fishing and how much
gear do you still have?
 
 
Hi All;
 
Just curious do most people in this group use only fly fishing gear? If your
a convert, did you keep your other gear or dispose of it? I just started
selling off my baitcasting gear but will probably keep some of it.
 
 
 
 
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"J Balmer"  Jan 27 10:39PM -0600  

I go on a long weekend trip w/ a couple of friends of mine each spring &
fall, & w/ three people in a boat, shorter rods are required. I use a
baitcasting reel to troll crankbaits & an ultralight rig for inline spinners
on 4 lb mono for those trips, otherwise I use fly gear. I've kept all my
"standard" fly fishing gear for friends & kids to use where fly rods are
difficult to cast.
 

 
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Of Michael Bliss
Sent: Friday, Jan

[VFB] Head Cement

2012-01-14 Thread George Vincent
Bob, I either use Hard as Nails as head cement or Minwax Polycrylic
Water Based Protective Finish which dries clear.

I bought an 8 oz can and I have had it for years. It never dries out
and I would be glad to share some with you at next weeks tying class.
Just bring a small empty bottle.

George V.

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RE: [VFB] Digest for vfb-mail@googlegroups.com - 7 Messages in 3 Topics

2011-12-11 Thread George Vincent
WD-40
 
George V

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RE: [VFB] Re: Mayfly Vise

2010-04-10 Thread George E Vincent
Where can I see a picture of the Bach vise and get more information about
it?

George Vincent 

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From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Don Ordes
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 18:31
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Mayfly Vise

How well does it hold the hook?  Will the hook bend bfore it moves?
DonO

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From: "Rene Zillmann" 
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Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swappers list- patterns- update


Hi,
it is Fed Bach's Mayfly vise, great vise for the money. Got it today and
I'm impressed. Excellent access at the hook's bend, smooth rotary
function, and an excellent bobbin rest.

I'll use it for the next swap, I don't expect it to replace my Regal
(different concept), but nice for traveling, it has got already its
place in the living room, where I ty in the evenings. And the price is
really a deal.
No affiliation, for sure. Just satisfied customer.

Rene

Neville Gosling wrote:
> Joe:
> So for those of us who just need to know, what vise is it?
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> Greater Vancouver,
> B.C. Canada
>
>
>

> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Joseph Fusco, Sr.
> *Sent:* April 9, 2010 6:13 AM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swappers list- patterns- update
>
> *Rene -*
> **
> *Been tying on the new vise since SowBug. I think it is every bit
> as good to tie on as my Danvise and my Griffith. It will probably
> become my prederred travel vise.
>
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> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Rene Zillmann
> mailto:rene.zillm...@t-online.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi Don,
> thanks for merging the swaps.
> I haven't decided yet on the pattern. I'm waiting for a new
> vise from
> Tony's friend, and while testing the vise I will try some things.
> I plan to ty a streamer pattern, but this depends if I my
> hands are
> doing what my mind says. Do I have a mind... ??
> Rene
>
> Don Ordes wrote:
> >
> > 1. Don Ordes- Soft-hackle fly
> >
> > 2. J. Balmer
> >
> > 3. Martin Westbeek
> >
> > 4. Ashley Strutt- seals fur mayfly dry flies
> >
> > 5. Reuven Segal
> >
> > 6. Jimi Gensling
> >
> > 7. Chuck Alexander
> >
> > 8. Rene Zillman
> >
> > 9. Mike Bliss
> >
> > 10. Nick Runarsson
> >
> > 11. Peggy Brenner
> >
> > 12. Joe Fusco, Sr.- Diving Caddis Soft Hackle
> >
> > 13. Larry Johnson
> >
> > 14. Rick Zieger- something with peacock herl
> >
> > 15. Jack Lehman-softshell crawfish
> >
> > 16. Jerry McKaughhan -#20 bead-head case caddis
> >
> > 17. Neville Gosling- bead-head case caddis size 22
> >
> > 18. Pat Harnish
> >
> > 19. Keith Passant
> >
> > 20. Gary Webb- Pink Squirrel
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RE: [VFB] Vises

2010-02-11 Thread George E Vincent
Even though I am a big fan of Thompson vises, this model never appealed to
me. They had a nice line of accessories, however, they were designed only
for the Cobra and the investment was more than I cared to make.
 
George

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Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:39
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Subject: RE: [VFB] Vises


Now I remember seeing it, the name did not ring a bell.
Scares me just looking at ti.
Tony

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From: George Vincent 
Subject: RE: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 8:49 AM


The Vosseler certainly looks like it used a design developed by Thompson as
the Cobra Vise.
 

 
George Vincent


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The Vosseler is a great example of the fact that a vise is highly personal.
Some like it; I did not care for at all. 
Two pair of jaws... why? No weight in the base, but a suction cup instead,
which just does not work on many surfaces, and results in an extremely
wobbly vise. Well, *that* really sucks ;-) 
Mart
 
 

 



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RE: [VFB] Vises

2010-02-11 Thread George Vincent
Tony, if you have the chance to get the Orvis Baetis vise, go for it, they
are rare as hens teeth.

I bought mine at an Orvis surplus sale and it had a broken jaw so I got it
for a great price. It was quite expensive when new from Orvis as most of
their merchandise is.

I had an extra set of Thompson jaws both regular and midge that a machinist
friend shorten for me and they work like a charm. Lucky that I had the
broken Orvis jaw to use as a pattern.

Unfortunately, he has since passed away.

As you can probably tell, I am a big fan of Thompson vises and was very
disappointed when they went out of business, although I think that there is
a group of old employees that are trying to resurrect the production of some
of the models.

The vise that I recommend to new tyers is the HMH either Standard or Spartan
models. They are made in Maine and the craftsmanship is superb and the
service is super.

George


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One of the guys in our tying group offered to trade his Orvis Baetis vise
for my Norlander.
We will be tying this afternoon and he will make the offer again. I would
like to add it to my collection but I want to keep my Norlander. We had an
Orvis Outlet store in Mtn. Home. I missed out on that vise, he was in the
outlet store that morning and I went in that afternoon. It went for 50.00
Tony
 

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RE: [VFB] Vises

2010-02-11 Thread George Vincent
The Vosseler certainly looks like it used a design developed by Thompson as
the Cobra Vise.
 

 
George Vincent


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The Vosseler is a great example of the fact that a vise is highly personal.
Some like it; I did not care for at all. 
Two pair of jaws... why? No weight in the base, but a suction cup instead,
which just does not work on many surfaces, and results in an extremely
wobbly vise. Well, *that* really sucks ;-) 
Mart
 
 

 

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RE: [VFB] A New Fly and Technique

2010-02-09 Thread George Vincent
Actually that is not quite true, Pennsylvania requires that "fishing be done
with artificial flies and streamers constructed of natural or synthetic
materials, so long as all flies are constructed in a normal fashion on a
single hook with components wound on or about the hook. Anything other than
these items is prohibited."
 
page 12 2009 Pennsylvania Fishing Summary 
 
Steelhead flies are a perfect example, e.g. crystal meth. My steelhead fly
box hasn't got one fly made of natural materials.
 
George Vincent

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RE: [VFB] A New Fly and Technique

2010-02-09 Thread George E Vincent
Actually that is not quite true, Pennsylvania requires that "fishing be done
with artificial flies and streamers constructed of natural or synthetic
materials, so long as all flies are constructed in a normal fashion on a
single hook with components wound on or about the hook. Anything other than
these items is prohibited."
 
page 12 2009 Pennsylvania Fishing Summary 
 
Steelhead flies are a perfect example, e.g. crystal meth. My steelhead fly
box hasn't got one fly made of natural materials.
 
George Vincent

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It might not not pass the test of being a fly here in Penna. The Penna code
requires that most of the fly must be made of natural materials. Not man
made rubber or plastics.
Gary S.

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From: Wes Wada <mailto:w...@wadaworks.com>  
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] A New Fly and Technique

It also resembles a lot of the bass bugs used on a fly rod.  :)   

The fly is tied for initial use at Davis Lake in the Oregon Cascades.  This
is a fishery that used be prime for big rainbows until illegally planted
largemouths took over.  There are bucketmouths there in the 6-7 pound range,
and the fly fishers are intent to remove as many as possible (losing cause).
The frog will see a lot of action starting in April.

re: Mike Bliss's question.  The big rainbows at Sugar Creek Ranch can be
enticed by a popper fly, but that is half the size of these bugs.  Not sure
what reaction I will get until these are fished this season.  It might help
to scale them down in size. The three green frogs are literally the first
three taken to a finished state in this project.

Wes



On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Joyce Westphal  wrote:


I don't think I'd call this a fly. I'd call it a synthetic lure as it
resembles many of the bass bugs I use on a spinning rod. Joyce 


On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Michael Bliss  wrote:


Wes,

These look great but the real question is have you fished them and have they
caught those big trout you shared with us on-line?

Mike 


On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Wes Wada  wrote:


Hi You All,


I mentioned in a previous post that I have been very busy and involved
with fly tying.

For the last year and a half, I've developed a style and technique of
tying using kids' modeling "clay" -- Crayola brand's Model Magic -- as
a basis for new fly patterns.  These have included an October Caddis
pupa, a Field Cricket, and a Dragonfly Nymph.

Attached are the first three Green Frogs, in the order that they were
created.

Materials are: white moldable foam, polypropylene yarn, rubber legs,
and various flash materials.  Coloring is acrylic paint and art
marker.  The eyes are created with fabric paint.  All of this is
mounted on a large stinger hook. The space behind the eye of the hook
is where a new type of weed guard will be tied in.  There are a good
number of ideas going into this fly.


The frog's legs are springy and hold their shape, and you can make the
shapes surprisingly fast. The legs are shaped with a simple jig I've
invented.

The body length, not including the legs, is 2 inches.  The fly is
lightweight, a tenth of an ounce.


I've developed a technique that solidly anchors the hook in the
hardened foam.  That's been battled tested.


I make about five frogs at a time, mass producing all the parts.
Assembly is very quick.  The bodies are all quite similar, as they are
all made at the same time, using the same tools. The basic shape is
still "in progress".  The variety of legs possible is a heap of fun.

Coloring can take as long as you want.  These are early prototypes, so
I didn't spend a whole lot of time coloring them, maybe three minutes
each.


Green Frog is the name of a common pond frog.


These are hand-held digital photos.  I will be redoing the shots later
with studio equipment. Also, the fly is still evolving, and who knows
what it will be like or look like in a month or two.


Hope you enjoy seeing some new stuff.  I've sure enjoyed the puttering
around...


Wes Wada
Bend, Oregon

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RE: [VFB] Tying Small Flies...

2010-01-04 Thread George E Vincent
OK, this is definitely for me. Count me in PLEASE!
 
George Vincent

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Tying Small Flies...


ahh come on, let's do a#28,  #30 or #32 swap, if somebody will host a small
number of tyers(10 or less) I'll tye

BobH

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Subject: RE: [VFB] Tying Small Flies...



16 & 14 aren't small, try a 22J

 

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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 9:35 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; fly fishing for panfish
Subject: [VFB] Tying Small Flies...

 

Folks: I have a question on tying flies smaller than , say, a size 16. Or a
size 14 in some cases. Like, how do you get all the materials tied into (or
onto LOL) a Royal Wolff)??I have been reading as much as I can about
bluegill fly fishing and fly tying,.and I was just reading about tying foam
ants, and it said NOT to tie bluegill flies too small as the bluegill has a
strong sucking power for insects that drop onto the surface of the water and
they'd even take a size 28 in a foam ant and would hurt themselves as they'd
swallow a fly that small all the way down their throat. So, it said to go to
a bigger fly. like a size 18 or a 20. Well, I can barely even see a size 18
or 20 hook, even with my reading glasses on, much less tie a fly on one.
Does anybody here tie flies regularly in a size 18 or smaller??? If so, what
is your secret?? Thanks, Chuck

 

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RE: [VFB] Fly Fishing stuff for Christmas

2009-12-27 Thread George E Vincent
 
Received one fishing related item, a book by Art Lee "Tying and Fishing the
Riffling Hitch."

Hopefully, it will increase my productivity on the steelhead and salmon
streams ;))

George Vincent

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RE: [VFB] Snow storm back east

2009-12-20 Thread George E Vincent
We just finished getting 20 inches of snow in Bowie, Maryland. It set a
record for a December snowfall. 
 
We will start digging out today.
 
George Vincent

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We have half an inch of snow in north of England, cars are sticking out of
hedges, police say not to travel, black ice now, I love it  iain


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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:09:07 -0800

We just went thru a severe storm last week here in the west. We received 18"
here at the Sierra Base and above 5000' they received 2-6 ft and more of
snow. Now we are battling frozen fog, ice and cold wind. Water pipes are
freezing all over the place. <http://www.linesend.com> 


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RE: [VFB] Thanks for your Help - Rivers Survey

2009-12-05 Thread George E Vincent
Nice job Jimmy, it was fun to look back over my fishing log. There are a few
I had almost forgotten that I fished and seeing the list reminds me of many
that I still have to fish.
 
I, for one, appreciate your effort.
 
George V

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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:46
To: Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World
Subject: [VFB] Thanks for your Help - Rivers Survey


Just want to say thank you to the 41 of you who participated in
the Rivers survey. Putting it together wasn't an easy task, but it
was fun and I sure learned a lot about our trout rivers/streams.

If you'd like a copy, let me know. It's in Word doc. format, so
you should be able to open it without any problem.

Lemme Know.

JIMMY D

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Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member 

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RE: [VFB] RIVERS WE'VE FISHED

2009-12-01 Thread George E Vincent
Maryland - Lower and Upper *Savage River, *Casselman River, Youghingheny
River, North Branch of the Potomac River, Town Creek, *Beaver Creek, *Big
Hunting Creek, Fishing Creek, Owens Creek, Gunpowder River, Morgan Run,
Middle Patuxent River, Chesapeake Bay and its Tributaries (South River, West
River, Potomac River)
 
West Virginia - *North Branch of the Potomac River
 
Pennsylvania - *Spring Creek, Spruce Creek, *Yellow Breeches, LeTort Spring
Run, Clarks Creek, Laurel Hill Creek, Penns Creek, Lake Erie tributaries
(*Elk Creek, 16 Mile Creek, 20 Mile Creek), Little Lehigh River, Tulpehocken
Creek
 
New Jersey - *South Branch of the Raritan
 
New York - *Battenkill near Shushen, Beaverkill, Connetquot River 

Vermont - Mettawee River, Battenkill River (below Manchester to NY State
Line), Roaring Brook, Mad Tom Brook
 
Montana - Yellowstone River, Soda Butte Creek, *Slough Creek, *Blacktail
Deer Creek, Pebble Creek
 
Virginia - Chesapeake Bay and tributary (Rappahanock River)
 
PEI Canada - *West River, *Dunk River, Morell River, Wilmont River, Mill
River, Trout River
 
George E. Vincent
Bowie, Maryland
Member Potomac Patuxent Trout Unlimited and Free State Fly Fishers

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RE: [VFB] re: help with spider type flies

2009-11-29 Thread George E Vincent
Joe, what issue, the latest I received was the Autumn issue.
 
George

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Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 20:49
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Subject: Re: [VFB] re: help with spider type flies


Joyce -

The latest FLY TYER magazine has an artticle on tying a classic spider.

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I've been requested to tie some Spider flies..I need to know where the body
starts..should it be over the barb or the point. If you tie these flies, or
know how it should be done, kindly inform. Inquiring minds want to know and
tie them correctly.  Any tying hints are also welcome. Joyce 



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[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed

2009-11-20 Thread George E Vincent
Jimmy, I know we have had this discussion on this list before. I do it the
same as you, that is cast with my right arm and switch to my left when I
catch a fish to reel it in. This is the way that I was taught and the way
that fly rods and reels were set up to be used by right-handed people at
least back in the 50s when I learned to fly fish.
 
BTW this is also the way that Lefty Kreh says that it should be done,
because you are using your dominant hand to do the work.
 
I don't know when they started teaching right-handed people to cast with the
right and reel with the left, but as far as I am concerned they are wrong.
 
George Vincent

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To: Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers
Subject: [VFB] Reeling left-handed


I'm right-handed and I've always reeled right handed after changing the rod
from right hand to left I know that in the time it takes to change the rod
from right hand to left hand has cost me a fish or two, but try as I may, I
just can't get the hang of reeling left-handed.  I've had this trouble with
my bait casting reel but it doesn't seem to affect how quick I strike at a
bass. 

I've sat at my tying bench with a reel attached to a reel seat held the
handle in my right hand and reeled left-handed until I'm blue in the face.
After about 5 minutes, reeling left-handed seems natural, BUT  . . . . when
I get on the stream and a fish takes, I fall back into the switching rod
from right to left hand and then reeling with my right hand.  

I'll try doubly hard to reel left-handed on the next fish, but even if I
don't make the switch, my reeling is an uncoordinated jerky motion.

Maybe I've just got a mental block.  Any suggestions will be appreciated.

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[VFB] Re: Digital Camera Comparative Site.... VERY MUCH ON TOPIC

2009-11-16 Thread George E Vincent

 I have been using an Pentax Optio W10 Waterproof camera for the past 2
years and couldn't be happier.

It has a slim design large viewing screen and fits nicely in my shirt
pocket, vest, or waist pack. I have take underwater photos and it has gotten
wet without fear of damage.

Best of all it is simple to use.

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[VFB] Re: Christmas Fly Swap

2009-11-03 Thread George E Vincent
Iain, add my name to the list.
 
George Vincent

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Subject: [VFB] Christmas Fly Swap


Christmas Fly Swap

Simple - you only tie one fly and send me the digital photo of it.

I will put it on both my photobucket and flickr photo sites in a dedicated
christmas fly swap album.
I will post the web addresses so everyone can see the flies.

no money, no posting flies, just tie one and email the photo with
instructions to me

Any fly as long as you can photograph it but must contain dear hair 

1. Iain 
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[VFB] Re: Wet Fly Swaps 1 & 2

2009-11-01 Thread George E Vincent
No problem here.
 
George

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Hi Guys

We have a postal dispute/strike here with 100.000.000 undelivered letters
back loged.
Unless Everyone is desperate to get the flies back I was intending to wait
for the last packet to arrive.

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[VFB] Re: peggy's swap

2009-07-30 Thread George
Peggy, please add me to the second swap as well as the first.
 
George Vincent

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Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 19:06
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: peggy's swap


When I get home from Conclave I'm gong to put together a second group for
the Catskill swap, you will be in it as well as Rene.
 
I'm using the hotel computers and they are very slow andnot all mail get's
sent 
 
Peggy


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Hi,  If anybody has Peggy's e-mail could you please  post for me.  I've been
incognito for awhile and would like to join her Catskills swap if there is
still room.  Thanks,  Jim Hodson










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[VFB] Re: question

2009-07-28 Thread George
Check out the new Chota Roc-Loc Wading boot WW-500T
http://chotooutdoorgear.net/shop/product_info.php?cPath=21_23
<http://chotooutdoorgear.net/shop/product_info.php?cPath=21_23&products_id=8
8> &products_id=88
 
Speed lacing that is effortless, leather uppers, rubber sole with
replaceable studs.
 
Extremely comfortable. I can hike and stand all day in comfort.
 
But, I must agree the rubber soles do not have the same grip as felt, but it
is close.
 
George Vincent

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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 14:41
To: Fly Swap
Subject: [VFB] question


 
I'm needing a new pair of wading boots, I have a pair of hodgman bantam that
the felt is coming off after
10 years. My question is what should I look for now that felt my be
eliminated.

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[VFB] Re: New Swap Catskill tradition Dry

2009-07-25 Thread George
Add my name to the list.
 
George Vincent

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Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 10:06
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] New Swap Catskill tradition Dry


And let's try our luck in the path Mary Dette and all the famous Catskill
Dry Tyers laid for us with a swap, room for 10 and not due till December.
And to keep it a real stretch of our skills let's try for small dries, 16
and under, all levels of tyers.

1
2
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4
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6
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[VFB] Re: Recipe Peacock and Bronze

2009-07-13 Thread George
Tony, the photos would be much appreciated.
 
George

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Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:08
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Recipe Peacock and Bronze


Can send the Step by step in photos if requested.


I tied this fly about 12 years ago and did well on it, but as I started
using other flies, I kind of let this one sit in my fly box. I started using
it again last year and have been doing real well on it. I have caught Trout,
Bluegills and Smallnouth bass with it.
I tie them with and without weight and fish it without an indicator. I just
don't use indicators.
Tying the P&B. this is a real simple fly to tie with basically two materials
plus the hook and thread. It was originally tied with Ginger Tinsel Chenille
, now using the Copper Tinsel Chenille I use for the Chili Pepper.
Hook:Scud Hook: 10-14
Weight: As Desired or none
Thread:: 8/0 Fire Orange
Tail: Two or Three Strands of Peacock Herl
Body: Copper Tinsel Chenille, Ginger can also be used
Shell Back: Two or Three strands of Peacock Herl Twisted
Head: Fire Orange thread
Antenna: Two strands of Peacock Herl.

If using weight, wrap the hook with lead wire as desired. Secure the wire
with the Fire Orange thread. Bring the thread fwd and tie in the  strands of
Peacock Herl over the hook shank. Tie in behind the hook eye leaving enough
space for final tying off and the head. Leave the Herl ends beyond the hook
bend for the tail. Fold the Herl back and over wrap to the hook bend, bring
the thread back to the hook eye. Tie in the body Chenille the full length of
the body wrapping down the bend a bit to give the body a bit of a curve. You
will be tying over the top of the folded Herl. Bring the thread fwd to the
tie off point. Wrap the body and tie off at the hook eye. Raise the tag ends
of the Herl and twist them together to form a rope. Pull the "rope" over the
top of the body and tie off behind the hook eye, do not cut herl yet.. This
forms the Shell Back. Tie off and form a definite Fire Orange Collor and
head. Whip Finish. Clip off the Herl at the bend to form a short tail and at
the hook eye to form short Antennas.
Not really necessary but I clip off one of the three antenna strands so
there are only two.
I fish this fly dead drift with a twitch till the swing. After the swing, I
let it come to the surface and twitch it a bit. Fishing one without weight,
it will just drift just below the surface. I have had a lot of violent
strikes on this fly.
Tony



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From: Anthony Spezio 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Crooked Creek again
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 10:04 PM


Don,
It is one of my flies. Late now, will post Recipe tomorrow.
Tony

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From: DonO 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Crooked Creek again
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 7:31 PM


Tony,
Can't Google up this Peacock and Bronze.  Does it have another name, or did
you invent it?
And why did you not use a Chili-pepper?
Curious minds...
DOnO

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Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:08 PM
Subject: [VFB] Crooked Creek again

Had a couple of visitors today and they wanted to fish a bit, The White is
still running all 8 units so that was out. We headed for Crooked Creek this
afternoon even though it was real hot and muggy from the shower we had this
morning. It was overcast when we left but the sun broke through by the time
we got on the Creek.One of the visitors had not fly fished before so I
worked with him getting set up. I gave both of them a Peacock and Bronze and
tied on on myself. I stayed with the new fly fisher till he finally caught a
nice Longear. I moved up to the first riffle and was catching some hand size
Longear Bluegills. The colors on them were so bright. Just below the first
riffle I caught one of the largest Goggle Eye I have ever caught. It looked
like a football. Further up the creek I caught several Rock Bass and several
large Roach, Funny about the Roach, they take the fly as soon as it hits the
water. When I see a boil when the fly hits the water, I know it is a Roach.
Got one small Smallmouth in that section. Took my newbee up to the hole that
was real good last Wednesday, it was full of fish again. I tried to get him
to cast in a couple of spots but he was having difficulty casting I hated to
see this but he finally gave up and headed down the creek. I took over the
hole and took 15 Gills from it. Most were hand size Gills. When they quit at
that hole, I headed up to the next riffle. Caught a few nice Gills there and
another Rock Bass. Then I hooked into something like a rocket. It came out
of the water and I saw it was a real good size Small mouth. He came out of
the water the second time with a 

[VFB] Re: count your blessings

2009-07-11 Thread George
Joyce, for the most part I can echo your comments, however, we did not have
a tractor and the property size was much smaller. All the uncles and cousins
dug the gardens by hand using garden forks and shovels, but the vegetables
were just as tasty, The fruit trees provided jams and jellies canned by all
the aunts. The chickens provided eggs and many enjoyable dinners. The
outhouse was sometimes to far to go. but we made the trek. The wood stove in
the outside kitchen backed many fine apple pies. The grape arbor provided
wine. The grass was cut by hand pushed reel mowers and coal was carried to
the furnace in the kitchen.
 
Oh the joys of my youth, I remember them well. The fishing was only a
bicycle ride away with no thought of predators interrupting our ride. 
 
The first steak I had was at a banquet in college and when they put the
prime rib in front of me, I felt guilty because it was enough for a whole
family!
 
George Vincent

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Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 08:35
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: count your blessings


I feel I  must comment. As one who grew up with no electricity, no running
water..that is,unless we ran up the hill with the bucket to the house, dirt
road with the last two miles non-graveled, I had a wonderful childhood. Mine
was a rural farm where, we had a 2 acre garden, 5 acre potato patch, same
for sweet corn, raised our own melons and had chickens, eggs, fresh pork and
beef. I grew up eating better than much of the rest of the world. We worked
hard, had a house with worn out linoleum floors but knew how to work, raise
our own food and had much love in our family. We had a lake 20 rods from the
house and plenty of fresh fish..mother loved to fish and taught the kids.
So, yes, they may be poor, we were, but there was no violence, no worry
about gang shootings, never a worry about where our next meal was coming
from. We sold eggs and cream which  meant we also knew how to care for dairy
as well as beef cattle. We used horses as well as a tractor, so we knew
equine ways as well as how to gap spark plugs. In short, this was an idyllic
place for me, and I'd not trade my "third world" upbringing for anything. We
had the knowledge that though we were poor, we were loved and self
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[VFB] Re: 4-july

2009-07-05 Thread George
Iain, you must have the wrong date, Canada was July 1st. Aren't they still a
British protectorate?
 
Here in the States we celebrate our Independence on the 4th of July. As far
as I know all the Tory's went North ;))
 
 
 
George Vincent
 
 


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Subject: [VFB] 4-july


Hi All

Happy 4th of July to our colonists in the the Americas.

iain 

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[VFB] Canada Day

2009-07-01 Thread George
Happy Canada Day
 

 
 

Fête du Canada

To all above the lower 48
 
George Vincent






 


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[VFB] Re: Wading experience...

2009-06-30 Thread George
Nick, this is the reason that I use one of those address labels received in
the mail overlaid with scotch tape on each fly box. Hopefully, if found by
another fisherman it may be returned to me. Without a label it is merely a
gift for the finder.  Sometimes the box - Wheatley - is worth more than the
flies. 
 
Glad you survived the dunking and didn't break the rod. When I take a
tumble, I am always more concerned for the rod than my body. If you are a
wading fly fisherman, it is not a matter of "if" you are going to take a
fall, but "when." Sooner or later we all suffer the indignity, I just hate
the embarrassment!
 
George Vincent

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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 16:26
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Wading experience...


I have just come home from a nice week of grayling fishing in the northern
Swedish river Hårkan... with a wading experience richer. The only "wader
dip" I had before this was in White River 2006. That one must have been in
the America's Funniest Home Videos league. Tony can testify on that. Water
that's hardly moving... barely one foot deep... with a gravel bottom flat as
a pancake... stumble on virtually nothing and landing on my chest.
 
This time the water was waist deep though and pushing quite hard. The bottom
was rocky and far from wading friendly (and I had been close to fall several
times during the week). It wasn't a "without wading stick" place (at least
not to me, who is a careful dude). I heard the sound of a fish rising to my
left and when I quickly turned my head to see where it was I felt a sligtht
sign of losing balance. So I took a little step backwards... maybe 5-6"...
slipped and fell backwards... and suddenly I was under the water. After
fighting a couple of seconds I managed to turn around so I had my toes
facing the stones and when I got a grip between the stones the stream
towards my chest "helped" me to get up again. I turned to get up from the
water and in the very next step I slipped again and fell face down. This
time it didn't come as the same shock kind of thing as the first fall and I
was able to actually THINK about how to get up, so I got back up standing
without major problem.
I looked down and was going to reach for my wading stick and saw that the
left pocket in my chest pack was empty... just as empty as the left big vest
pocket. Downstream I saw three boxes getting smaller... a big
compartment/slit foam box with dry flies, a slit foam box (swing leaf) of
the same size with nymphs and another slit foam box with soft hackle flies.
I had packed my boxes with flies before this trip, so there were more than a
couple of flies disappearing there... and instincts took over. 
 
I started to run downstream (as fast as you can, jumping on rocks with water
up to your waist). The water got deeper though and when it reached just
below my chest I stumbled and fell again. I had just reached the boxes, but
at the same time I also reached a hole where it suddenly got much deeper.
Trying to stand up again wasn't on the menu anymore and I started to swim.
Swimming with the rod in one hand and 'catching' all three boxes was
impossible. I knew that much. So I started to hit them one by one to get
them upstream and closer to land. Then I swam a bit towards land myself
until they reached me and it was time for the next "hit/swim" move again.
After a couple of times repeating this I was at a depth where I could stand
up again and just collecting the boxes coming towards me... and finally
focus on leaving the water.
 
The night before this I had landed my (by far) largest grayling after a long
fight on a #3 rod and in fast moving water,,, but I still think this was the
took the prize as the "adventure of the trip". How I actually managed to
salvage all three boxes and the rod (and myself) is beyond me. I must have
had Him on my side. But you can't have anything. Back in the wind shelter we
sat by the fire and I had changed into some reserve clothing and my wading
jacket that I didn't wore when I fell. My soaking wet fleece sweater was
hanging on a nail on the wall... right above my opened backpack. The water
was dripping RIGHT down in the pocket where I kept the cellphone... and that
was the end of his adventure. :oP
 
So, what have I learned from this trip?
 
*Be careful where you put your feet in the water. (I already knew that, so
it was more of a reminder.) But keep your pockets closed. Careful or not...
eventually you will still fall. Having given the extra second to close the
pocket after putting the box back down can turn out to be worth both the
time and the effort.
*When you have fallen, gotten up and are sitting there happy over still
being alive and not having lost anything... it doesn't have to be over. Luck
can tu

[VFB] Re: QFTD

2009-06-27 Thread George
I for one stopped using a strike indicator years ago. However, I often use a
dry fly with a dropper to accomplish much the same thing.
 
I have also tied a monofilament loop in front of the hook eye when first
starting to tie a dry fly and this allows the dry fly to be adjusted up and
down the leader much the same as a strike indicator. 
 
In many instances the trout will take the dry.
 
George Vincent

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Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 09:11
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: QFTD


For those of us who find fishing without an indicator in moving water to be
much more productive, that is an arguable point.  However, I will admit that
fishing in still water with a fly or small jig suspended below an indicator
(bobber, cork, etc.) can often be most productive.

-- 
Joe Fusco, Sr.
Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen's Association, The International
Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box

REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE

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"Indicators not only improve your ability to detect strikes, they also add
control and versaltiltiy to your streamer setups."
 
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[VFB] Re: FIRST Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

2009-06-25 Thread George
Iain, I will be sending two separate "Altoid" tins in the same envelope each
clearly labeled "First" or "Second" Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap.
 
Are you sure that $3 is enough to cover return postage for both tins?
 
Should the outside of my manila envelop be labeled "Fishing Flies"? Or will
this cause concern to customs?
 
George Vincent

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FIRST Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

Tie Eleven traditional winged wet flies. Sized for trout.  
BUT NOT STREAMERS !   Due end august 

Send your flies, with 3 US dollars postage to Iain Short, 
29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington, Northumbria, NE225PT ENGLAND

First set to arrive gets a prize.

Please name your pattern ...

1. John Bennett -
2. George Vincent - Grizzly King
3. Garry Smith - Pink Lady
4. Iain Short - Black & Orange
5. Don Ordes - 
6. Ashley Strut - Cock Robin
7. Thomas Eckert - Connemara Black
8. David Masson - 
9. Walter Shockley - Teal Blue & Silver
10. Neville Gosling - Mallard & Claret 
11. Rene Zillmann - Invicta

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[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

2009-06-23 Thread George
Ian, I am going to tie a Teal and Green for the Second Traditional Winged
Wet Fly Swap.
 
George Vincent

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SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap 


There ONE place left - any Takers

If anyone entered in the first swap wants to enter both you only pay postage
once. 
If entering both swaps dress Different fly's for each swap please.

Limit is TEN entry's max !

Tie ten flies, toe tag them, send them to me by the end of august.

enclose 3 US dollars for return postage

iain short, 29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington, Northumbria, NE225PT. ENGLAND


All flies must be clearly marked second swap !

Name your fly

1. Deb Duran - 
2. Jim Phillips - 
3. Iain Short - 
4. Mark Romero - Mallard and Claret
5. Garry Smith - Grizzly King
6. Reuven Segal -
7. Rene Zillmann - 
8. George Vincent - 
9. David Mason - 
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[VFB] Re: FIRST traditional winged wet fly Swap

2009-06-23 Thread George
Ian, I am going to tie a Grizzly King for the First Traditional Winged Wet
Fly Swap.
 
George Vincent

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FIRST traditional winged wet fly Swap

Tie Eleven traditional winged wet flies. Sized for trout.  
BUT NOT STREAMERS !   Due end august 

Send your flies, with 3 US dollars postage to Iain Short, 
29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington, Northumbria, NE225PT ENGLAND

Please name your pattern ...

1. John Bennett -
2. George Vincent -
3. Garry Smith - Pink Lady
4. Iain Short - 
5. Don Ordes - 
6. Ashley Strut - Cock Robin
7. Thomas Eckert - Connemara Black
8. David Masson - 
9. Walter Shockley - Teal Blue & Silver
10. Neville Gosling - 
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[VFB] Re: SACOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

2009-06-22 Thread George
Iain, please add my name to the Second Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap as
well as the first. I need to reconnect with my past! 
 
I will mail both together in separate tins.
 
George Vincent

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SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap


There are four places left - any Takers

If anyone entered in the first swap wants to enter both you only pay postage
once. 
If entering both swaps dress Different fly's for each swap please.

Limit is TEN entry's max !
All flies must be clearly marked second swap !

Name your fly

1. Deb Duran - 
2. Jim Phillips - 
3. Iain Short - 
4. Mark Romero - 
5. Garry Smith - 
6. Reuven Segal -
7. 
8.
9. 
10.

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[VFB] Re: New Swap

2009-06-18 Thread George
Yes Iain, add my name to the list. It has been many years since I tied a
traditional wet fly. These were all that we had when I first began fly
fishing and tying flies other than the occasional garden hackle fly!

George Vincent

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 Anyone interested in a swap for 

"Traditional English Winged Wet flies"

<< Ten flies only>>

iain

look here to see what traditional wet fly means !

http://globalflyfisher.com/patterns/bergman/

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[VFB] Re: Old Fart Swap / found Allan's fly

2009-06-01 Thread George
Rene, photos are nicely done. I am glad that you got Jimmy's location
correct as Texas and not USA! 

That's why they call it the "Lone Star" State! 

George Vincent

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Well,
now I think I'm really an old fart. Found the last fly of the swap, Allan
your fly is here! She did hide herself .. where could a fly hide herself ??
... behind a vise. I was de-dusting some of the rare used ones, and found a
little bag with Allan's griffith's gnat.
 Did a pic, now the old farter homepage is full..

http://rzillmann.homepage.t-online.de/swap48/swap48.htm

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[VFB] Re: Something new- Fly of the Week?

2009-05-30 Thread George
Count me in also, I think this is a really terrific idea.
 
George Vincent

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Subject: [VFB] Re: Something new- Fly of the Week?


Count me in, I've put several variations of things together in the past few
years, should be fun.

Peggy B


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:47 PM, DonO  wrote:


Anyone interested in a 'Fly of the Week' posting?
 
Since we can do photos here, it would be fairly easy to post it with a
recipe.
Anyone interested?  We can do multiples, and maybe it will jump-start some
swaps.
If you wanted to do a step-by-step, that might be possible if we keep the
photos small with low resolution.
 
We could also post a photo, like a Tony Chili Pepper, then everyone could
post their versions- like a swap, but less work for an individual.
 
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[VFB] Re: rod and reel question

2009-05-28 Thread George
As a general rule, attach the reel to the rod and balance the rod on your
index finger placed under the cork and see if the rod remains level. If it
dips at the rod tip the reel is to light, if it dips at the reel the reel is
too heavy. Of course this is an approximation depending upon where you place
your finger under the cork as the fulcrum. 
 
I generally place the fulcrum (my finger) closer to the front of the cork.
 
George Vincent

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Subject: [VFB] rod and reel question


 
I need some help, I understand the rod line weight thing, but how do you
match
a reel to the rod?

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[VFB] Re: Left hand reel

2009-04-06 Thread George
Ian, I do not think of this as a left hand reel. I am right handed and cast
with my right arm/hand. I then pass the rod to my left arm and reel with my
right hand. This is/was the traditional way of learning to fly fish and how
I learned over 50 years ago. Thus, you are right handed you are always using
your dominant hand.
 
Today's fly fisher has some how been mistakenly (in my opinion) learned to
cast with their right hand and reel with their left. In which case reels
need to be altered for right hand reeling. I still believe that most if not
all manufactures still sell their reels oriented to the old way.
 
Famed fly caster Lefty Kreh still advocates using your dominant hand as I
was taught.
 
George Vincent
 
 

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Hi Guys

I am selling a left hand ABU DIPLOMAT 178 reel with padded case
(you wind with the right hand)

Silent wind in, and adjustable ratchet drag

3.25 inches diameter

paint rubbed off in the usual spot

Anyone interested email me off list at iainsh...@hotmail.com

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[VFB] Fishing in Ireland

2009-04-04 Thread George
I cannot remember if there are any members here who live in Ireland or not.

I am interested in a trip to Ireland next spring and would love to do some
trout fishing while there. I anyone has any information, I would certainly
appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,

George Vincent

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[VFB] Re: Back from Sowbug

2009-03-24 Thread George
OK, so you have finally sparked my interest. I am going to plan to attend
Sowbug next year. However, I do have some questions:
How close is the event to an airport, I will be traveling from Maryland?
Where do most people stay?
How does one sign up to tie or do you have to be invited?
How close is the fishing to the event?

George Vincent
 

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Subject: [VFB] Back from Sowbug


Probably the best Sowbug ever for our group.

I wondered what happened to Jeff Frye, but saw amidst the backlog of e-mail
that he had a strained back and was only at the get-together 
on Friday - the day I was out playing.   I'm sorry I didn't get to 
see him.  Several others who I spend time with weren't there and were missed
- Jimmy Moore, RIck Zeiger, Bruce and Brandon Whittle, and Dennis Conrad
come immediately to mind this morning.

I did get to see several others from one or more of the groups. 
Kevin Slater and his handsome son chatted with me for a while.  As I was
wandering around, Kevin's son was sitting there tying with Dad and I regret
that I didn't have my camera with me at the time.

Joe Fusco.John Maples.I won't try to name all the others
- I would omit some accidently.  When they update the website you can check
out who all was there.  And many tyers who are not on the list who have
become friends over the years.

Many great tyers were there - some of them very well-known (Jay Fullum,
Stack Scoville, Jeff Hines, Kyle Hand), but some of them not, 
but still great and innovative tyers.   And yes, I know the word 
should be spelled 'tiers', but to me tiers means 'layers' and sounds like
"tears", and although we were using chicken feathers, I didn't 
see any setting hens there.   So I spell it "tyers" to dispell 
misinterpretation.

I learned many new flies and techniques.  The cameraderie amongst 
tyers was great.   The audiences were attentive.

I was able to teach three young men (10 - 14 years old) how to do the whip
finish by hand.  Two adults watched and then had me show them.

I gained five pounds, so that speaks to the cooking.

The weather was the best it ever has been.  The generators were shut down
for the entire time so the White & Norfork were the most fishable it ever
was.  We got to visit Crooked Creek, so that was a first.

I caught a trout on my very first cast with my new Dave Lewis Rod.

One of our group caught his first (and second and third) trout on a fly rod.

But the biggest thrill of all was to actually go fishing with Tony Spezio.
And getting a hug from his wife Dot.

I probably shouldn't mention the peach jelly and mahaw jelly I got to bring
home.  

As I said.  This was the greatest Sowbug Roundup ever for the group from
Indiana.

Allan

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[VFB] Re: ] Re: Old fart swap

2009-03-12 Thread George
The Blue Crystal Flash Fly is from Tim Caillouette. It was loose in my set
without a toe tag so I contacted Jimmy.
 
George Vincent


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Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 18:19
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] ] Re: Old fart swap


Keerect!  Also, I copied this post back to the OF swap email list.  Not all
are members of the VFB.

JIMMY D

Gary Webb wrote:


Rene,
 
  I think you're missing Allan Fish's Griffifs Gnat.
By elimination, I think the ? isTim Caillouet's Lazer Head 
 
But Jimmy D is the final authority.
 
Gary 


On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Rene Zillmann 
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Keith et al,

Here you are, have fun.
http://rzillmann.homepage.t-online.de/swap48/swap48.htm
I'll adding recipies in the next days, as far as I got them.
If someone finds mistakes, pls. send info
Rene


Rene Zillmann schrieb:

> Keith,
> yes, I'm sitting here and doing the shots. Maybe the site is up tomorrow
ev.
> Rene
> KP schrieb:
>
>> They arrived here in The UK today too. Wonderful swao and well worth
>> the wait. Is anyone putting the flies on a site? If not I will. What
>> about you Rene. You usually put them on your site.
>> Well done to everyone for a great swap. As for the two toe tags I knew
>> Tony WAS NO WAY as old as he says. He cant be to tie stuff that small.
>> Whether or not its to avoid the seeing mistakes. And John B is young
>> any way so he should be tying small stuff. 34 next time John ?? Great
>> flies all round folks
>> Thanks to Jimmy for hosting this swap.
>> PS
>> DONO DID YOU GET MY EMAIL ??
>>
>>
>>
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[VFB] Re: Mayfly Dry and Nymph Swaps

2009-03-08 Thread George
Not a problem Chris, things happen. I look forward to receiving some really
nice flies from a great bunch of tyers.
 
George Vincent

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Subject: [VFB] Mayfly Dry and Nymph Swaps


To All Swappers,

So - against all belief, I'm sure, I have the flies packaged up and ready to
ship.

I will not waste space or insult anybody's sensibility to make excuses about
the "slight" delay in getting these out.  It's been the gnarliest year of my
life BUT I should have taken care of this LONG ago.

Please accept my sincere apologies.  I hope that any bitterness that any of
you harbor against me will be transformed into fish in hand this season.

Two orders of business...
The first two people who sent in flies are receiving special extras.  I've
acknowledged who they are before but I honestly cannot remember (I've slept
since then...)...would you please let me know who you are?  

There were a few people who did not send in flies (I COULD say that I've
still been waiting for them...but nobody would buy it...).  So we have two
full sets of dries and nymphs that are unaccounted for.  I propose that we
decide on a worthy recipient; does anyone know of somebody who could really
USE 9 nymphs and 12 dries.  Meaning...someone starting out, someone who just
got laid off and could use a pick me up?  Some homeless flyfisher (don't
laugh...the first trout I caught was on a fly bought from a homeless
flyfisher in Boulder, CO).
I'll take suggestions off list.
My new email is ccbroom...@gmail.com

Feel free to yell at me off list and - if it makes you feel comfortable - to
badger me about getting the damn boxes in the mail before July 4.

Again - I am truly sorry.

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[VFB] Re: soft hackle fly swap

2009-02-17 Thread George
Jerry, please add my name to the list for the soft hackle swap. I will tie a
partridge and herl.
 
George Vincent

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Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 22:08
To: Fly Swap
Subject: [VFB] soft hackle fly swap


 
Members,
 
Well I'm going to take the plunge.  I will host a soft hackle fly swap, 13
tiers including me.  Flies are due
by March 30th, 2009, all rules apply, first twelve get in.  Be sure to toe
tag all flies and send self addressed
stamped return postage. 
 
Hope there are twelve interested tiers. 

Jerry McKaughan 
Caddis Fly Fishers 
P O Box 85
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[VFB] Re: Active Nymphing was QUOTE FOR THE DAY

2009-02-16 Thread George
Absolutely Tom, I couldn't agree more with your observations. When I started
nymphing without a strike indicator, my catch rate increased. I have used
the same technique and have also caught fish at all stages of the
presentation. 
 
The fly is only part of the technique, the rest is presentation,
presentation, presentation.
 
Keeping the fly in the water is very important, even fishing out a bad cast
can produce a catch. I can usually spot a novice by watching the number of
false casts. The fly in the water is what catches the fish, the fly in the
air doesn't.
 
George Vincent

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Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 18:34
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Active Nymphing was QUOTE FOR THE DAY


I learned to fly fish about 15 years ago when a friend helped me get rigged
up and taught me how to cast and fish.  He was a nymph fisherman (anyone who
fishes the Weber River where I fish most often is) and he taught me to dead
drift the fly behind a strike indicator.   Later I talked to another friend
who had been a fly tyer and fly fisher for years, and asked him if he used a
strike indicator and the dead drift.  He said no, he always used a shorter
line and followed it as it drifted through the deep holes.  So I tried his
technique and started catching more fish.  Several years later I  realized
what I was doing is called "High Sticking" and it is still my preferred
method to dig a bunch of fish out of a deep hole.  It always includes a lift
at the end, and often I strip it back, and have caught fish both ways.  Also
with a nymph and a swing, especially when there are caddis hatching.   

While the basic idea of the "dead drift" is sound, but I don't think it is
as important as some people think.  Sometimes adding a little motion to the
fly is exactly what the fish need to strike.  If I am fishing a long, deep
run, I will often combine them all... Maybe cast into a back eddy, let the
fly sink then strip it into the main current, let it dead drift until it
comes close to me, then lift the line and high stick through the water next
to me, with a swing on the end, followed by stripping the line back.   I
have caught fish at all stages of the presentation of the fly.

I think we spend too much time wondering what a fly "represents" .  Most
often, it is just something that looks like food to the fish, and movement
can be a trigger. 

Perhaps the most important thing is just keeping the fly in the water, and
close to the bottom.

Tom

P.S.  By the way, I am officially "back".  My strength, energy, appetite,
are all normal.  I am also making progress with the other two side effects
of the surgery.  Life is good.  The only downside is that my intention to
attend Sowbug this year has been derailed by $3000.00 in medical expenses
(since I was in the hospital in December and January, it get to pay for two
years worth of deductibles).

I was really looking forward to seeing Tony again,  but my son is a trucker,
and if he has a run this summer that comes within 200 miles of Flippin, I'll
be there to visit (I'll call first).

   
On Feb 14, 2009, at 6:21 AM, Anthony Spezio wrote:


This called the "Miracle Inch". I use it a lot and get some violent strikes.
At first I would get a lot of break offs till I learned to keep the line
loose in my line hand. I would "twitch" the nymph on the drift let it swing
and hold it there for a short. Then work it back up stream like a wounded
minnow.
Tony

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From: KP 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Active Nymphing was QUOTE FOR THE DAY
To: "VFB Mail" 
Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 5:01 PM


I love upstream dry fly fishng and in the winter I fish my nymphs this
way too. A friend of mine just came back from a course here in the

 UK
and they were shown how the masters of short line nymphing do the job.
Your books ref to the stripping the nymph on the lift is how he
described the Czech and Polish method of what we call the induced take
as originated here by Mr Skues. There is a new (?) method used by
these guys that uses long leaders up to 18 or 20 feet long ! At the
end of the drift they lift the nymph at  a rediculous (to me anyway)
speed but it works really well. I have used the same method but with
sensible leaders of 10 to 12 feet long. It resulted in a 40cm grayling
(thats 16" in proper money) which is big for the UK, on my last trip
to the river. SO yes stripping the nymph induces takes from fish so I
guess you should try it for a while and compare to your normal slower
retrieve.
Just my 2pennorth.
Cheers
Keith

PS DonO I am doing the 24hour thing again this year!!!  I now work for
Orvis UK !!!

On Feb 12,

 8:46 pm, Michael Bliss  wrote:
> I am reading a book called "Active Nymphing: Aggressive Strategies
for
> Casting, Rigging, And Movin

[VFB] Re: new swap

2009-01-13 Thread George
Iain, please count me in.
 
George Vincent

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Of iain short
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 00:55
To: VFB-new; Chris Broomell; deb duran
Subject: [VFB] new swap


Hi Guys
Any one interested in a new swap ?

Some of you saw photos of the Christmas tree fly I tied for fun.
For next Christmas why not all of us tie One fly each and put up the photo
with details attached

RULES.
You only tie one fly.
It must be Christmas based.
You send a digital picture to me. (you keep the fly, no postage required)
I send copies of your photo's to all other entrants
You have till November 2009 to tie your fly
I put the pictures on my web photo site in December 2009 (as everyone else
can who wants to)

iain


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[VFB] Re: Old Fart Swap

2009-01-11 Thread George
Jimmy, I also changed the name of my pattern from "American Beauty" to "Old
Glory"

George Vincent 

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Subject: [VFB] Old Fart Swap


Jimmy,

I decided to change my pattern.

instead of tying an 'old ugly' I will ty an 'old hot ugly'

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[VFB] Merry Christmas

2008-12-24 Thread George
I wish all the members of VFB and your family a very Merry Christmas and a
Happy New Year.
 
I am thankful for all the blessing the heavenly father has bestowed upon me,
for I have been graced with many days upon the streams and have good friends
to share them with and the opportunity to share a mutual enjoyment for our
sport here on the Listserver.

George Vincent

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[VFB] Fwd: Re: [VFB] royal wulff question

2008-11-24 Thread George
You might also want to consider using Turkey Flats in either medium dun or
white for the post.

George Vincent

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Of DonO
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 16:48
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Ooops - Fwd: Re: [VFB] royal wulff question


Ashley,
The fly evolved from a coachman wet fly (slate or white wet wings) to a
coachman dry fly (white duck wings), to the royal coachman with a red waist
and white goose or duck quill wings.  And then Lee Wulff added the calf-tail
wings for visibility, float, and durability (added to many patterns).  Most
else is just variations, as is with the RC and the RW- variations of the
coachman.

A grey tippet wing is probably referring to the tip of a gray or grizzly
hackle, and for that you'd just tie a set of adams tippet wings on a royal
coachman body and finish with coachman brown hackles.

I prefer Winger wings in the adams grizzly colors or white, for both profile
on the water and durability.  But if you are mimicking a clear-wing mayfly,
then a fine hackle tip is the way to go, just suggesting the wing, as does
the adams dry fly, rather that presenting it in full profile.

DonO

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>
> I've just had a look, not there.
> The way it was described it was a Royal Wulff. From the what they said I
> thick the wings are from Lady Amherst Pheasant.
>
> Ashley
> > I should have gone up and read the article before sending this, but it
> > may have been the Royal Wulff's first cousin the Royal Coachman.
> >
> > Same theories work.
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[VFB] Re: Vise ID...

2008-11-01 Thread George
Nick, the one that I have, I bought at a fly swap many years ago. However,
you can make one yourself using a tongue blade and a spring type clothespin
glued to it. It can then be clamped to the front edge of your bench under
the c-clamp. I have made several and have encouraged those in my fly tying
classes to make one. It comes in handy for holding a hackle that is being
used for tails.
 
George Vincent

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Subject: [VFB] Re: Vise ID...


George, Where can I get one of those "Third Hand"?? I see him using it on
the DVD's I have of him tying and those things look real handy. Thanks,
Chuck
 

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Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:27 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Vise ID...

Nick, I have an AK Best Third Hand and the logo is "AK'S Fly Tying Tools" in
Green Letter with a fly attached to a fly line.
 
The vise doesn't look like any in his books or on his video.
 
George Vincent

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Subject: [VFB] Vise ID...


A friend dug up this vise from the basement and is curious about the brand.
Anyone seen it before and knows what it is?
 
Logotype: http://sportfiskeforum.se/userpix/10807_stad_1.jpg
Vise: http://sportfiskeforum.se/userpix/10807_stad_2.jpg
 
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[VFB] Re: Vise ID...

2008-10-30 Thread George
Nick, I have an AK Best Third Hand and the logo is "AK'S Fly Tying Tools" in
Green Letter with a fly attached to a fly line.
 
The vise doesn't look like any in his books or on his video.
 
George Vincent

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A friend dug up this vise from the basement and is curious about the brand.
Anyone seen it before and knows what it is?
 
Logotype: http://sportfiskeforum.se/userpix/10807_stad_1.jpg
Vise: http://sportfiskeforum.se/userpix/10807_stad_2.jpg
 
/Nick





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[VFB] Re: Latest on OLD FART SWAP - dropping age limit.

2008-10-28 Thread George
 

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Subject: [VFB] Latest on OLD FART SWAP - dropping age limit.


I didn't mean to discriminate against those of you under 65.  It just
sounded like a good age to use.  Also, it doesn't appear that we have many
65 or older members since only three of us have signed up. Could be a small
swap at this rate.   So . . . . . 

Maybe you can be an old fart and be 60, 55 or even 50.  Doesn't AARP count
age 50 as a Senior?   With that said, I'm dropping the age limit to 50.  One
of you said, and I quote: "Would that 65 or older have to be my legal age?
My wife tells me that I act like an old bitter fart all the time."  

So if you're 50 or older and and want to join and don't mind being called an
OF, welcome aboard.  To join, just reply to this email and add your name
after the last name below.

Jimmy Moore
Joe Fusco
Everett Hall
 George Vincent 

Git - R - Dun ! 
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