AW: [VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
Take al look on: http://www.fishandfly.com/articles/20090320_1 They show how to make a welded loop with some shrink tube - works perfect Thomas Thomas R. Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch Sonnhaldenstrasse 14 CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH Switzerland Tel.: +41442628367 Mobil: +41796795463 www.royalcoachman.net -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von Michael Bliss Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. April 2009 00:40 An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Betreff: [VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material? So Wes are you making loop connectors for your fly lines? If you are I would be interested in the process. I have been using the braided leaders for some time and love them but the connections to the fly line are not how I would like them yet. Mike On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: The Gudebrod C-Thru product arrived yesterday, and I have been playing with the material. If you took the standard braided nylon material used for making loops, and scaled it down using smaller diameter nylon fibers, then you can visualize the product. The braided loop material is commonly available in 35-pound and 50-pound test. The C-Thru material is 25yd. spools of 17, 8, or 6 pound. I ordered the 8 and 6. The breaking strength listing is very deceptive, as I haven't been able to break the 8 pound test with my hands. It is very sturdy stuff, tightly braided. The 8 pound is .019 diameter, and about 1/16, about the same as many butt sections of leaders. Indeed, you could easily have a quick substitute for a furled leader butt using this stuff. The 6 pound test is .015 diameter, about 50% thicker than 1/32. I am not sure what types and sizes of dacron are used for blind eye hooks, but the C-Thru would make a very good alternative. The source for the material, available in single spools, is Land of Odds: 6-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28074 8-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28075 17-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28076 If anybody has further questions, just contact me offline. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon On 4/11/09, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: I have found a source to order single spools of 6# and 8# Gudebrod C-Thru. The order should arrive any day now, and I will report on the product and source. Wes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
Does it have to be a heat gun? Would a hair dryer work? Mike On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Thomas Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch wrote: Take al look on: http://www.fishandfly.com/articles/20090320_1 They show how to make a welded loop with some shrink tube - works perfect Thomas Thomas R. Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch Sonnhaldenstrasse 14 CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH Switzerland Tel.: +41442628367 Mobil: +41796795463 www.royalcoachman.net -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von Michael Bliss Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. April 2009 00:40 An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Betreff: [VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material? So Wes are you making loop connectors for your fly lines? If you are I would be interested in the process. I have been using the braided leaders for some time and love them but the connections to the fly line are not how I would like them yet. Mike On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: The Gudebrod C-Thru product arrived yesterday, and I have been playing with the material. If you took the standard braided nylon material used for making loops, and scaled it down using smaller diameter nylon fibers, then you can visualize the product. The braided loop material is commonly available in 35-pound and 50-pound test. The C-Thru material is 25yd. spools of 17, 8, or 6 pound. I ordered the 8 and 6. The breaking strength listing is very deceptive, as I haven't been able to break the 8 pound test with my hands. It is very sturdy stuff, tightly braided. The 8 pound is .019 diameter, and about 1/16, about the same as many butt sections of leaders. Indeed, you could easily have a quick substitute for a furled leader butt using this stuff. The 6 pound test is .015 diameter, about 50% thicker than 1/32. I am not sure what types and sizes of dacron are used for blind eye hooks, but the C-Thru would make a very good alternative. The source for the material, available in single spools, is Land of Odds: 6-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28074 8-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28075 17-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28076 If anybody has further questions, just contact me offline. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon On 4/11/09, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: I have found a source to order single spools of 6# and 8# Gudebrod C-Thru. The order should arrive any day now, and I will report on the product and source. Wes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
Mike: I tried a hair dryer on max heat but it did not weld the loop together. The heat needs to be concentrated. The shrink tubing shrunk but returning home after after casting with the line on the river, the loop slid out of the tube a few days later. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver B. C. Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Bliss Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:45 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material? Does it have to be a heat gun? Would a hair dryer work? Mike On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Thomas Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch wrote: Take al look on: http://www.fishandfly.com/articles/20090320_1 They show how to make a welded loop with some shrink tube - works perfect Thomas Thomas R. Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch Sonnhaldenstrasse 14 CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH Switzerland Tel.: +41442628367 Mobil: +41796795463 www.royalcoachman.net -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von Michael Bliss Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. April 2009 00:40 An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Betreff: [VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material? So Wes are you making loop connectors for your fly lines? If you are I would be interested in the process. I have been using the braided leaders for some time and love them but the connections to the fly line are not how I would like them yet. Mike On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: The Gudebrod C-Thru product arrived yesterday, and I have been playing with the material. If you took the standard braided nylon material used for making loops, and scaled it down using smaller diameter nylon fibers, then you can visualize the product. The braided loop material is commonly available in 35-pound and 50-pound test. The C-Thru material is 25yd. spools of 17, 8, or 6 pound. I ordered the 8 and 6. The breaking strength listing is very deceptive, as I haven't been able to break the 8 pound test with my hands. It is very sturdy stuff, tightly braided. The 8 pound is .019 diameter, and about 1/16, about the same as many butt sections of leaders. Indeed, you could easily have a quick substitute for a furled leader butt using this stuff. The 6 pound test is .015 diameter, about 50% thicker than 1/32. I am not sure what types and sizes of dacron are used for blind eye hooks, but the C-Thru would make a very good alternative. The source for the material, available in single spools, is Land of Odds: 6-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28074 8-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28075 17-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28076 If anybody has further questions, just contact me offline. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon On 4/11/09, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: I have found a source to order single spools of 6# and 8# Gudebrod C-Thru. The order should arrive any day now, and I will report on the product and source. Wes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
I would guess you have already done this. Does it really go through the guides - slick as snot? - whatever he said. Try as I might the knots when the leader connects to the fly line occasionally cause me grief. Mike On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: Hi Mike, It was snowing hard in Bend today. We are going to go directly from winter to the 4th of July. Aloha. Henry posted this link about the loop construction. The info is part of Dan Blanton's web site. Get Looped http://www.danblanton.com/gettinglooped.html That's actually a nice salutation: Get Looped, Wes P.S. I am giving myself the challenge to create braided nylon loops from the 6-pound Gudebrod C-Thru. Haven't a clue yet what I'd use them for. On 4/14/09, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote: So Wes are you making loop connectors for your fly lines? If you are I would be interested in the process. I have been using the braided leaders for some time and love them but the connections to the fly line are not how I would like them yet. Mike On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: The Gudebrod C-Thru product arrived yesterday, and I have been playing with the material. If you took the standard braided nylon material used for making loops, and scaled it down using smaller diameter nylon fibers, then you can visualize the product. The braided loop material is commonly available in 35-pound and 50-pound test. The C-Thru material is 25yd. spools of 17, 8, or 6 pound. I ordered the 8 and 6. The breaking strength listing is very deceptive, as I haven't been able to break the 8 pound test with my hands. It is very sturdy stuff, tightly braided. The 8 pound is .019 diameter, and about 1/16, about the same as many butt sections of leaders. Indeed, you could easily have a quick substitute for a furled leader butt using this stuff. The 6 pound test is .015 diameter, about 50% thicker than 1/32. I am not sure what types and sizes of dacron are used for blind eye hooks, but the C-Thru would make a very good alternative. The source for the material, available in single spools, is Land of Odds: 6-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28074 8-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28075 17-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28076 If anybody has further questions, just contact me offline. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon On 4/11/09, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: I have found a source to order single spools of 6# and 8# Gudebrod C-Thru. The order should arrive any day now, and I will report on the product and source. Wes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
I have been using braided loops from Gudebrod for a lot of years, am real pleased with them. I have no problem with going through the guides. Some other brands are a lot stiffer and they did not please me especally some Black ones I got one time.. Tony --- On Wed, 4/15/09, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 1:07 PM I would guess you have already done this. Does it really go through the guides - slick as snot? - whatever he said. Try as I might the knots when the leader connects to the fly line occasionally cause me grief. Mike On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: Hi Mike, It was snowing hard in Bend today. We are going to go directly from winter to the 4th of July. Aloha. Henry posted this link about the loop construction. The info is part of Dan Blanton's web site. Get Looped http://www.danblanton.com/gettinglooped.html That's actually a nice salutation: Get Looped, Wes P.S. I am giving myself the challenge to create braided nylon loops from the 6-pound Gudebrod C-Thru. Haven't a clue yet what I'd use them for. On 4/14/09, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote: So Wes are you making loop connectors for your fly lines? If you are I would be interested in the process. I have been using the braided leaders for some time and love them but the connections to the fly line are not how I would like them yet. Mike On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: The Gudebrod C-Thru product arrived yesterday, and I have been playing with the material. If you took the standard braided nylon material used for making loops, and scaled it down using smaller diameter nylon fibers, then you can visualize the product. The braided loop material is commonly available in 35-pound and 50-pound test. The C-Thru material is 25yd. spools of 17, 8, or 6 pound. I ordered the 8 and 6. The breaking strength listing is very deceptive, as I haven't been able to break the 8 pound test with my hands. It is very sturdy stuff, tightly braided. The 8 pound is .019 diameter, and about 1/16, about the same as many butt sections of leaders. Indeed, you could easily have a quick substitute for a furled leader butt using this stuff. The 6 pound test is .015 diameter, about 50% thicker than 1/32. I am not sure what types and sizes of dacron are used for blind eye hooks, but the C-Thru would make a very good alternative. The source for the material, available in single spools, is Land of Odds: 6-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28074 8-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28075 17-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28076 If anybody has further questions, just contact me offline. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon On 4/11/09, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: I have found a source to order single spools of 6# and 8# Gudebrod C-Thru. The order should arrive any day now, and I will report on the product and source. Wes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
Mike, I normally fish with 11' leaders. That length allows me to net a fish without bringing the line/leader connection through the tip top guide. Once that knot or loop is inside the guides, you have significantly increased the odds you will lose the fish! It just takes a momentary hangup of the knot in the guides to break light tippets. I have found a product like Loon Knot-Sense (think it is called something else these days) helps when you are knotting mono to the fly line. The product is molded around the knot so that the connection is more smooth and streamlined. Wes Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote: I would guess you have already done this. Does it really go through the guides - slick as snot? - whatever he said. Try as I might the knots when the leader connects to the fly line occasionally cause me grief. Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
The trick here to learn is that, when you raise your rod with one hand and reach for the fish/leader with the other, turn your rod so the the reel is up, not down or sideways. If you have snake guides on the rod, the knots in your connections will slip through moving against the rod, not the guides, should the fish decide to make another run. Try it. Jack Austin Wes Wada wrote: Mike, I normally fish with 11' leaders. That length allows me to net a fish without bringing the line/leader connection through the tip top guide. Once that knot or loop is inside the guides, you have significantly increased the odds you will lose the fish! It just takes a momentary hangup of the knot in the guides to break light tippets. I have found a product like Loon Knot-Sense (think it is called something else these days) helps when you are knotting mono to the fly line. The product is molded around the knot so that the connection is more smooth and streamlined. Wes Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote: I would guess you have already done this. Does it really go through the guides - slick as snot? - whatever he said. Try as I might the knots when the leader connects to the fly line occasionally cause me grief. Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
This is an interesting item. I use longer leaders for dry fly fishing and have little problems with them. I personally prefer something in the 9-11 (with tippet) for nymphing. It probably should make little difference but when landing a fish you have to get him to you so the connection between the flyline and the leader must pass through the guides no matter what the length of the leader - right? I am missing something here but can't visualize it. I need to get out and do some fishing. Mike On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: Mike, I normally fish with 11' leaders. That length allows me to net a fish without bringing the line/leader connection through the tip top guide. Once that knot or loop is inside the guides, you have significantly increased the odds you will lose the fish! It just takes a momentary hangup of the knot in the guides to break light tippets. I have found a product like Loon Knot-Sense (think it is called something else these days) helps when you are knotting mono to the fly line. The product is molded around the knot so that the connection is more smooth and streamlined. Wes Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote: I would guess you have already done this. Does it really go through the guides - slick as snot? - whatever he said. Try as I might the knots when the leader connects to the fly line occasionally cause me grief. Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
Any idea as to its intended use? Gary S - Original Message - From: Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:32 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material? Also, there is a product I am not familiar with, called Gudebrod C-Thru. It's a clear, braided nylon cord that comes in 6# and 8# test sizes (among others). Go to the createforless.com site and search for Gudebrod C-Thru. The catch is it is only available three spools at a time, and this is the only outlet I have been able to find for the product. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
Wes: What are you planning to use this for? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver B. C. Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wes Wada Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:49 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material? The Gudebrod C-Thru product arrived yesterday, and I have been playing with the material. If you took the standard braided nylon material used for making loops, and scaled it down using smaller diameter nylon fibers, then you can visualize the product. The braided loop material is commonly available in 35-pound and 50-pound test. The C-Thru material is 25yd. spools of 17, 8, or 6 pound. I ordered the 8 and 6. The breaking strength listing is very deceptive, as I haven't been able to break the 8 pound test with my hands. It is very sturdy stuff, tightly braided. The 8 pound is .019 diameter, and about 1/16, about the same as many butt sections of leaders. Indeed, you could easily have a quick substitute for a furled leader butt using this stuff. The 6 pound test is .015 diameter, about 50% thicker than 1/32. I am not sure what types and sizes of dacron are used for blind eye hooks, but the C-Thru would make a very good alternative. The source for the material, available in single spools, is Land of Odds: 6-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28074 8-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28075 17-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28076 If anybody has further questions, just contact me offline. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon On 4/11/09, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: I have found a source to order single spools of 6# and 8# Gudebrod C-Thru. The order should arrive any day now, and I will report on the product and source. Wes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
Hi Neville, I am developing techniques and a series of flies using a shapeable, moldable foam. The foam cannot be tied to a hook (the thread cuts right through it). Hooks need to be GLUED into the foam. When done properly, the setup is very durable. I have been looking for a product that I could wind around a hook that would give the hook shank a tooth without a lot of bulk. The purpose of the tooth would be to give the foam something to hang onto, to prevent rotation or slippage around the hook. Just from the tests so far using the Gudebrod C-Thru, it works for that purpose! I am also going to play around with the material for special leader mini-connectors and such. Should be interesting to make loops from 8-pound, 1/16 diameter braided nylon. Like I noted, the breaking strength is much greater than listed. Wes On 4/14/09, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: Wes: What are you planning to use this for? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver B. C. Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wes Wada Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:49 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material? The Gudebrod C-Thru product arrived yesterday, and I have been playing with the material. If you took the standard braided nylon material used for making loops, and scaled it down using smaller diameter nylon fibers, then you can visualize the product. The braided loop material is commonly available in 35-pound and 50-pound test. The C-Thru material is 25yd. spools of 17, 8, or 6 pound. I ordered the 8 and 6. The breaking strength listing is very deceptive, as I haven't been able to break the 8 pound test with my hands. It is very sturdy stuff, tightly braided. The 8 pound is .019 diameter, and about 1/16, about the same as many butt sections of leaders. Indeed, you could easily have a quick substitute for a furled leader butt using this stuff. The 6 pound test is .015 diameter, about 50% thicker than 1/32. I am not sure what types and sizes of dacron are used for blind eye hooks, but the C-Thru would make a very good alternative. The source for the material, available in single spools, is Land of Odds: 6-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28074 8-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28075 17-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28076 If anybody has further questions, just contact me offline. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon On 4/11/09, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: I have found a source to order single spools of 6# and 8# Gudebrod C-Thru. The order should arrive any day now, and I will report on the product and source. Wes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
So Wes are you making loop connectors for your fly lines? If you are I would be interested in the process. I have been using the braided leaders for some time and love them but the connections to the fly line are not how I would like them yet. Mike On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: The Gudebrod C-Thru product arrived yesterday, and I have been playing with the material. If you took the standard braided nylon material used for making loops, and scaled it down using smaller diameter nylon fibers, then you can visualize the product. The braided loop material is commonly available in 35-pound and 50-pound test. The C-Thru material is 25yd. spools of 17, 8, or 6 pound. I ordered the 8 and 6. The breaking strength listing is very deceptive, as I haven't been able to break the 8 pound test with my hands. It is very sturdy stuff, tightly braided. The 8 pound is .019 diameter, and about 1/16, about the same as many butt sections of leaders. Indeed, you could easily have a quick substitute for a furled leader butt using this stuff. The 6 pound test is .015 diameter, about 50% thicker than 1/32. I am not sure what types and sizes of dacron are used for blind eye hooks, but the C-Thru would make a very good alternative. The source for the material, available in single spools, is Land of Odds: 6-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28074 8-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28075 17-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28076 If anybody has further questions, just contact me offline. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon On 4/11/09, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: I have found a source to order single spools of 6# and 8# Gudebrod C-Thru. The order should arrive any day now, and I will report on the product and source. Wes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
Hi Mike, It was snowing hard in Bend today. We are going to go directly from winter to the 4th of July. Aloha. Henry posted this link about the loop construction. The info is part of Dan Blanton's web site. Get Looped http://www.danblanton.com/gettinglooped.html That's actually a nice salutation: Get Looped, Wes P.S. I am giving myself the challenge to create braided nylon loops from the 6-pound Gudebrod C-Thru. Haven't a clue yet what I'd use them for. On 4/14/09, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote: So Wes are you making loop connectors for your fly lines? If you are I would be interested in the process. I have been using the braided leaders for some time and love them but the connections to the fly line are not how I would like them yet. Mike On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: The Gudebrod C-Thru product arrived yesterday, and I have been playing with the material. If you took the standard braided nylon material used for making loops, and scaled it down using smaller diameter nylon fibers, then you can visualize the product. The braided loop material is commonly available in 35-pound and 50-pound test. The C-Thru material is 25yd. spools of 17, 8, or 6 pound. I ordered the 8 and 6. The breaking strength listing is very deceptive, as I haven't been able to break the 8 pound test with my hands. It is very sturdy stuff, tightly braided. The 8 pound is .019 diameter, and about 1/16, about the same as many butt sections of leaders. Indeed, you could easily have a quick substitute for a furled leader butt using this stuff. The 6 pound test is .015 diameter, about 50% thicker than 1/32. I am not sure what types and sizes of dacron are used for blind eye hooks, but the C-Thru would make a very good alternative. The source for the material, available in single spools, is Land of Odds: 6-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28074 8-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28075 17-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28076 If anybody has further questions, just contact me offline. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon On 4/11/09, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: I have found a source to order single spools of 6# and 8# Gudebrod C-Thru. The order should arrive any day now, and I will report on the product and source. Wes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
I have found a source to order single spools of 6# and 8# Gudebrod C-Thru. The order should arrive any day now, and I will report on the product and source. Wes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
AW: [VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
Description: Gudebrod C-Thru® B Cord is the ideal, translucent, cord for creating all those wonderfully unique pieces of one-of-a-kind jewelry. This cord has very little stretch and is very easily knotted, which gives a great deal of security on all your necklaces, bracelets, earrings and more. This cord also is very resistant to any rough stones you may be using. Medium 17 lb 25 yd http://www.createforless.com/Gudebrod+C-Thru+B+Cord+Medium+17+lb+25+yd/pid70 085.aspx?utm_source=becomeutm_medium=cse Thomas R. Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch Sonnhaldenstrasse 14 CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH Switzerland Tel.: +41442628367 Mobil: +41796795463 www.royalcoachman.net -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von Wes Wada Gesendet: Montag, 6. April 2009 18:33 An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Betreff: [VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material? Also, there is a product I am not familiar with, called Gudebrod C-Thru. It's a clear, braided nylon cord that comes in 6# and 8# test sizes (among others). Go to the createforless.com site and search for Gudebrod C-Thru. The catch is it is only available three spools at a time, and this is the only outlet I have been able to find for the product. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
Thanks Thomas! I am seeing the product on several online sites. Goes down to 15 pound test, also 35 and 50, and in 50yd and 100yd spools. Wes On 4/4/09, Thomas Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch wrote: The name of the product is: GudeBrod Braided Butt Leader Material Thomas R. Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch Sonnhaldenstrasse 14 CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH Switzerland Tel.: +41442628367 Mobil: +41796795463 www.royalcoachman.net -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von Wes Wada Gesendet: Samstag, 4. April 2009 22:34 An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Betreff: [VFB] Braided nylon loop connector material? Hello VFB: Does anyone know where to purchase the braided nylon material used to make loop connectors? I just am looking for the small diameter, braided nylon material itself, in bulk lengths, without the loops. Thanks, Wes Wada Bend, Oregon --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
