Re: [videoblogging] Indecision - an interactive hyper-videoblog post
On 23 Jul 2008, at 10:50, Rupert wrote: I just used YouTube's new Annotations tool to create a little interactive videoblog story, created very quickly with my phone. Exciting that this kind of thing is possible so easily. You can only see it on YouTube - here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtQg_LCq_T8fmt=18 Nice one Rupert - an entertaining example of what used to be called interruptible video back in the last century. Interruptible because it's only interactive in the sense that we choose the next narrative snippet. Unfortunately, when done poorly, this narrative form picked up the moniker irritainment, since the main attraction of video/tv/film is that we surrender our decision-making faculties to the film-maker and enter into a trance-like reverie - and the requirement to make a decision at each step interrupts our involvement in the film's world. As you probably also discovered, making these kinds of films quickly leads us to the garden of forking paths as Borges described it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Garden_of_Forking_Paths In my experience, this makes narrative resolution extremely difficult. Of course, many videoblogs have no resolution, so perhaps this could work for such open-ended narrative structures after all. Look forward to your further experiments! Cheers, Christian
Re: [videoblogging] Indecision - an interactive hyper-videoblog post
Thanks, Christian. I started out by mapping some Steve Jackson/Ian Livingstone Fighting Fantasy interactive books a couple of years ago, so I could study how they created their stories and avoided the endless proliferation of paths. Their paths diverged and then converged at key points. I'm just trying out a project using the same methods. I agree that videoblogs are more open-ended, and a lot of what is created can fit together in interesting ways. One solution that I want to explore is to avoid the 'irritainment' factor by allowing viewers to sit through an uninterrupted version of a story if they want, but also allowing them multiple layers of options and parallel stories and easter eggs that they can explore on further viewings, each of which adds something to the viewer's engagement with or understanding of the story. But for the moment, I'm just making a big game. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv PS I particularly enjoy your email address. Best I've seen in a long time. On 25-Jul-08, at 1:44 AM, Christian Wach wrote: On 23 Jul 2008, at 10:50, Rupert wrote: I just used YouTube's new Annotations tool to create a little interactive videoblog story, created very quickly with my phone. Exciting that this kind of thing is possible so easily. You can only see it on YouTube - here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtQg_LCq_T8fmt=18 Nice one Rupert - an entertaining example of what used to be called interruptible video back in the last century. Interruptible because it's only interactive in the sense that we choose the next narrative snippet. Unfortunately, when done poorly, this narrative form picked up the moniker irritainment, since the main attraction of video/tv/film is that we surrender our decision-making faculties to the film-maker and enter into a trance-like reverie - and the requirement to make a decision at each step interrupts our involvement in the film's world. As you probably also discovered, making these kinds of films quickly leads us to the garden of forking paths as Borges described it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Garden_of_Forking_Paths In my experience, this makes narrative resolution extremely difficult. Of course, many videoblogs have no resolution, so perhaps this could work for such open-ended narrative structures after all. Look forward to your further experiments! Cheers, Christian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Documentary Club
I know that a lot of folks here are into documentaries - Doc Pop and I have started up a documentary club on ning. You can find it here http://documentaryclub.ning.com I've found a lot in my career of tv and video that by watching others work you can learn a lot - whether it be timing/techniques/composition/storytelling whatever. So I hope that you'll join us. We'll be watching two films a month - you don't have to do both - and we'll be discussing them after viewing them. We're even trying to rope in the director of a film or two to participate in the conversation. We're just now finalizing the list for the first month - we'll vote for the top 2 - keep it democratic and all. Thanks all. Scott Stead www.scottstead.com
[videoblogging] 12seconds.tv
has anyone else checked this out? i see that they're trying to take the success (if you will) of seesmic and combine it what that of twitter (its brevity). but are we really that ADD that we NEED to compress the time frame to 12 seconds? i think its novel but that's about it. as a culture - we're all about expedience - but in condensing and condensing the time frames in which we communicate are we changing how we communicate? personally - i've been watching a lot of longer format films/documentaries/etc lately because i've been feeling a need for something with depth/breadth/context/landscape. do you see value in 12seconds.tv? or is it just another niche thing. cheers scott
Re: [videoblogging] 12seconds.tv
Yeah, Ive been on it a bit; theres a couple others on this list using it as well. I'm still having problems with the 12sec limit..sometimes I need 17secs to accomadate all my umms and uhhs. One thing good about it, is that it works and does what it says it does! by the time I get to the page, turn on my cam, etc.. I just want to do whatever im doing for the time it takes me to do it; which SHOULD only be 12secs, but rarely is. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:36 AM, darbycoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: has anyone else checked this out? i see that they're trying to take the success (if you will) of seesmic and combine it what that of twitter (its brevity). but are we really that ADD that we NEED to compress the time frame to 12 seconds? i think its novel but that's about it. as a culture - we're all about expedience - but in condensing and condensing the time frames in which we communicate are we changing how we communicate? personally - i've been watching a lot of longer format films/documentaries/etc lately because i've been feeling a need for something with depth/breadth/context/landscape. do you see value in 12seconds.tv? or is it just another niche thing. cheers scott -- Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://hatfactory.net AIM:schlomochat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] 12seconds.tv
I think it's a niche, but I understand the ADD production mentality. For Dragon*ConTV, we have a maximum time limit of two minutes for a clip. Most of what we produce is 30 seconds in length (due to spoofing commercials). We make exceptions for our few music videos, but the main video clips are time limited. Audience ADD is one reason we set the time limit. People come go at Dragon*Con events, so a 10 minute joke won't work there (yeah, we produce for a live audience as well as an internet audience ... very rare these days). The really big reason we set the time limit is comedic punch ... what I call the hit them with a cream pie and run rule. Some of the ideas we have are funny when they're short, but hard to flesh out in a longer spot. And, if you try to stretch the joke, it's like chewing the same piece of gum for too long ... eventually the flavor dies and it ends up on the bottom of someone else's shoe. We describe it as SNL Syndrome (many Saturday Night Live jokes would be funnier if they stopped sooner). Robot Chicken excels at the 10 second gag. It's not the entire show, but ti works for some of their jokes. Short and funny has it's place, unless it's Verne Troyer in yet another Mike Myers movie. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:36 AM, darbycoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: has anyone else checked this out? i see that they're trying to take the success (if you will) of seesmic and combine it what that of twitter (its brevity). but are we really that ADD that we NEED to compress the time frame to 12 seconds? i think its novel but that's about it. as a culture - we're all about expedience - but in condensing and condensing the time frames in which we communicate are we changing how we communicate? personally - i've been watching a lot of longer format films/documentaries/etc lately because i've been feeling a need for something with depth/breadth/context/landscape. do you see value in 12seconds.tv? or is it just another niche thing. cheers scott Yahoo! Groups Links -- Brian Richardson - http://siliconchef.com - http://dragoncontv.com - http://whatthecast.com - http://www.3chip.com
[videoblogging] Fwd: [BAVC] PAH Fest - good opportunity to get media produced for your org
Hey all Thought some of you might be interested in this. Looks pretty good. -- Forwarded message -- From: Jennifer Gilomen Date: Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:06 AM Subject: [BAVC] PAH Fest - good opportunity to get media produced for your org To: Schlomo Rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jennifer Gilomen said: I strongly encourage each of you to round up a team for this festival and to produce a 6-minute film about the issues your organization deals with. The Mobiflicks project is competitive community-based storytelling on teams, with cash (and camera) prizes. They provide everything for your team to produce a film--a coach, production and postproduction equipment, etc., and they encourage community members of all ages and walks of life, with little or no media experience to participate. It'll be a fun event, everyone will learn production skills, there's a screening at the end, and you'll end up with a film that is useful for marketing your organization and doing advocacy. - Digivantelist Christopher Coppola Brings FREE Digital Media Festival to Bay Area August 10--17 www.pahnation.org PAH stands for Project Accessible Hollywood and PAH-FEST is a week-long, free digital media festival that travels to cities throughout the US and internationally 18 July 2008--SAN FRANCISCO: Leave it to a Coppola to find a new way to bring media to the masses. In this case--Christopher Coppola: filmmaker, nephew of Francis Ford Coppola, brother of Nicolas Cage and renowned DigiVangelist. The concept is simple put a digital video camera or a cell phone in the hands of someone with an idea and let them create art. Then put the finished project on the Internet at to enable cross cultural communication and understanding. The result is PAH-FEST (PAH stands for Project Accessible Hollywood)-- www.pahfest.org-- a week-long, free digital media festival that travels to cities throughout the US and internationally. It comes to the Bay Area this August 10 - 17 in partnership with San Francisco Art Institute and Oakland School of the Arts. My goal is to bridge the gap between Hollywood and the heartland, says Coppola, who has been dubbed the pirate of his filmatic family. PAH-FEST allows people from all walks of life, ages 5 105, the chance to tell their stories through video in five different contests. We are excited about PAH-FEST coming to the Bay Area because the San Francisco region is a place of neighborhoods with individuals and stories in every area of the city and suburbs. We are reaching out through museums, youth groups and schools to find people interested in participating. Participants are provided with digital equipment and a professional helping hand enabling them to create their own short digital films. PAH-FEST: Bay Area offers participants the opportunity to build confidence using digital technology while discovering the artist within us all. The finished work will be posted on the www.pahnation.org online theatre, where the public and a pool of professional judges review it and cast their votes for the winners. All submissions will remain online indefinitely for viewing and sharing. Coming from a storied Hollywood family, and having directed movies himself, Christopher Coppola has one foot in the studio filmmaking system and the other on the frontier of new media storytelling. He believes that great stories come from everyday people, and that with the advent of digital technology, those stories can be shared globally through digital films and the Internet. He created PAH-FEST for this purpose. PAH-FEST: Bay Area categories include: 1) Mobiflicks: six-minute digital films using Canon pro-sumer digital cameras. 2) Cell Phone Art: one-minute or less videos created on a video-enabled cell phone. 3) DigiPortraits: participants create a two-minute portrait of themselves or another person. 4) Tone Poem: musicians, songwriters and composers shoot a two-minute video to portray their original music. 5) Circus Vision Challenge: children ages 14 and under, embark on a visual treasure hunt to capture and gather a list of visual ingredients. On Sunday, August 10, 12pm-4pm. at San Francisco's Exploratorium and at Oakland's Jack London Square PAH-FEST: Bay Area will kick off with Circus Vision Challenge. Coppola will welcome youth aged 14 and under, accompanied by a parent, guardian or chaperone. They will be given a brief orientation and then provided with a video enabled smart phone or camera as they embark on a visual treasure hunt to capture and interpret a list of visual ingredients. Participants will have five hours to shoot and edit a two-minute piece on the phone. PAH-FEST: Bay Area's tech crew will be available at the PAH Headquarters at SFAI and OSA for help with editing and submitting the piece. The Circus Vision
[videoblogging] Re: 12seconds.tv
This 12 second thing will make people talk like robots or like those voiceover guys at the end of informercials. When you tell something, pauses are essential for the listener to memorize and visualize your story. my 12 cents Renat of Innomind.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, darbycoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: has anyone else checked this out? i see that they're trying to take the success (if you will) of seesmic and combine it what that of twitter (its brevity). but are we really that ADD that we NEED to compress the time frame to 12 seconds? i think its novel but that's about it. as a culture - we're all about expedience - but in condensing and condensing the time frames in which we communicate are we changing how we communicate? personally - i've been watching a lot of longer format films/documentaries/etc lately because i've been feeling a need for something with depth/breadth/context/landscape. do you see value in 12seconds.tv? or is it just another niche thing. cheers scott
Re: [videoblogging] Re: 12seconds.tv
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Renat Zarbailov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This 12 second thing will make people talk like robots or like those voiceover guys at the end of informercials. When you tell something, pauses are essential for the listener to memorize and visualize your story. idontknowwhatyouretalkingaboutithinkyoucangetthepointacrossinashortperiodoftime ... yeah, this could be annoying :) Brian Richardson - http://siliconchef.com - http://dragoncontv.com - http://whatthecast.com - http://www.3chip.com
[videoblogging] Re: rocketboom using youtube - why?
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, miglsd27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Miguel. We're using blip, Viddler, and YT for our RSS and email embeds. We're switching off between them as we experiment to see which ones serve which episodes best. For the most part, we're looking at: - Encode quality - Transcode time - File availability - Effect on stats/community per platform This past week we've been using the YouTube 'high quality' + widescreen embed file in particular. -kc. I noticed that in my feed reader, but the webpage does the same. The problem isn´t even the picture quality, wich I don´t find that much worst. The audio is terrible. Why not stick to blip or something? Miguel.
Re: [videoblogging] Talent needed!
Yeah. Our material doesn't get enough views to make those pay off. Our highest viewed video is around 200,000 and that's an anomaly. Most average 10k-50k or so, but gain views as the months go on. Hadn't checked our stats in a while. We're actually on the precipice of a significant number: 1,928,028 views across 66 videos since we launched in March 2007. *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried Revver, Blip, Break and Metacafe? Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Add French Maid TV to Your iTunes @ http://frenchmaidtv.com/itunes http://1timstreet.com http://twitter.com/1timstreet On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Adam Quirk wrote: Some creative video people are as good at business as farmers are at rocket science. Or they just want to focus on the creative side and not worry about the business side. On that note, anyone reading this that thinks they can make money with Wreck Salvage please feel free to let us know how: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We'll try anything once. Except DVDA. AQ *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Marc, Remind me, If someone can produce, star and edit their own show why do they need you? Just kidding. I couldn't resist. Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Add French Maid TV to Your iTunes @ http://frenchmaidtv.com/itunes http://1timstreet.com http://twitter.com/1timstreet On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:18 AM, mboxser wrote: Are you the next Ze, Chuck, Steve, Zadi? Kent? Lisa Nova? Want to make a show and get paid for it? I am looking for creative talent who produce, star and edit in their own shows- looking particularly for innovative news/politics people, as well as innovative shows around normal consumer/popular topics, but interested in anything and anyone. I work with a bunch of companies looking to staff up their content on several levels of investment- so please contact me and include links to you work at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many thanks, Marc Boxser [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Talent needed!
holy cow thats awsome On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yeah. Our material doesn't get enough views to make those pay off. Our highest viewed video is around 200,000 and that's an anomaly. Most average 10k-50k or so, but gain views as the months go on. Hadn't checked our stats in a while. We're actually on the precipice of a significant number: 1,928,028 views across 66 videos since we launched in March 2007. *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]tim%40frenchmaidtv.com wrote: Have you tried Revver, Blip, Break and Metacafe? Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] tim%40frenchmaidtv.com Add French Maid TV to Your iTunes @ http://frenchmaidtv.com/itunes http://1timstreet.com http://twitter.com/1timstreet On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Adam Quirk wrote: Some creative video people are as good at business as farmers are at rocket science. Or they just want to focus on the creative side and not worry about the business side. On that note, anyone reading this that thinks they can make money with Wreck Salvage please feel free to let us know how: [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com We'll try anything once. Except DVDA. AQ *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]tim%40frenchmaidtv.com wrote: Hey Marc, Remind me, If someone can produce, star and edit their own show why do they need you? Just kidding. I couldn't resist. Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] tim%40frenchmaidtv.com Add French Maid TV to Your iTunes @ http://frenchmaidtv.com/itunes http://1timstreet.com http://twitter.com/1timstreet On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:18 AM, mboxser wrote: Are you the next Ze, Chuck, Steve, Zadi? Kent? Lisa Nova? Want to make a show and get paid for it? I am looking for creative talent who produce, star and edit in their own shows- looking particularly for innovative news/politics people, as well as innovative shows around normal consumer/popular topics, but interested in anything and anyone. I work with a bunch of companies looking to staff up their content on several levels of investment- so please contact me and include links to you work at [EMAIL PROTECTED] marc%40boxser.com Many thanks, Marc Boxser [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Talent needed!
unless you have millions and millions of views per each episode getv is a good brand, but most of my money has come from flat fee sponsorships because the per/view per/click stuff just doenst work for anything outside blockbusters On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yeah. Our material doesn't get enough views to make those pay off. Our highest viewed video is around 200,000 and that's an anomaly. Most average 10k-50k or so, but gain views as the months go on. Hadn't checked our stats in a while. We're actually on the precipice of a significant number: 1,928,028 views across 66 videos since we launched in March 2007. *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]tim%40frenchmaidtv.com wrote: Have you tried Revver, Blip, Break and Metacafe? Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] tim%40frenchmaidtv.com Add French Maid TV to Your iTunes @ http://frenchmaidtv.com/itunes http://1timstreet.com http://twitter.com/1timstreet On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Adam Quirk wrote: Some creative video people are as good at business as farmers are at rocket science. Or they just want to focus on the creative side and not worry about the business side. On that note, anyone reading this that thinks they can make money with Wreck Salvage please feel free to let us know how: [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com We'll try anything once. Except DVDA. AQ *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]tim%40frenchmaidtv.com wrote: Hey Marc, Remind me, If someone can produce, star and edit their own show why do they need you? Just kidding. I couldn't resist. Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] tim%40frenchmaidtv.com Add French Maid TV to Your iTunes @ http://frenchmaidtv.com/itunes http://1timstreet.com http://twitter.com/1timstreet On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:18 AM, mboxser wrote: Are you the next Ze, Chuck, Steve, Zadi? Kent? Lisa Nova? Want to make a show and get paid for it? I am looking for creative talent who produce, star and edit in their own shows- looking particularly for innovative news/politics people, as well as innovative shows around normal consumer/popular topics, but interested in anything and anyone. I work with a bunch of companies looking to staff up their content on several levels of investment- so please contact me and include links to you work at [EMAIL PROTECTED] marc%40boxser.com Many thanks, Marc Boxser [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: 12seconds.tv
Unfortunately - most people aren't funny enough for that 12 seconds to be worth while. Instead of a cream pie in the face and everyone laughing - it's more like watching some kids doing whippits and staring at the camera saying - i'm a importan', people know me. watch out. (end of transmission) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brian Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's a niche, but I understand the ADD production mentality. For Dragon*ConTV, we have a maximum time limit of two minutes for a clip. Most of what we produce is 30 seconds in length (due to spoofing commercials). We make exceptions for our few music videos, but the main video clips are time limited. Audience ADD is one reason we set the time limit. People come go at Dragon*Con events, so a 10 minute joke won't work there (yeah, we produce for a live audience as well as an internet audience ... very rare these days). The really big reason we set the time limit is comedic punch ... what I call the hit them with a cream pie and run rule. Some of the ideas we have are funny when they're short, but hard to flesh out in a longer spot. And, if you try to stretch the joke, it's like chewing the same piece of gum for too long ... eventually the flavor dies and it ends up on the bottom of someone else's shoe. We describe it as SNL Syndrome (many Saturday Night Live jokes would be funnier if they stopped sooner). Robot Chicken excels at the 10 second gag. It's not the entire show, but ti works for some of their jokes. Short and funny has it's place, unless it's Verne Troyer in yet another Mike Myers movie. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:36 AM, darbycoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: has anyone else checked this out? i see that they're trying to take the success (if you will) of seesmic and combine it what that of twitter (its brevity). but are we really that ADD that we NEED to compress the time frame to 12 seconds? i think its novel but that's about it. as a culture - we're all about expedience - but in condensing and condensing the time frames in which we communicate are we changing how we communicate? personally - i've been watching a lot of longer format films/documentaries/etc lately because i've been feeling a need for something with depth/breadth/context/landscape. do you see value in 12seconds.tv? or is it just another niche thing. cheers scott Yahoo! Groups Links -- Brian Richardson - http://siliconchef.com - http://dragoncontv.com - http://whatthecast.com - http://www.3chip.com
[videoblogging] My Latest Upcoming Video Podcast Projects
Hi everyone: Just wanted to let everyone here know that my new political talk show will be starting up in video format BEGINNING TOMORROW AFTERNOON (Evening on the East Coast) @ 5:00 PM ET (Unless severe weather forces a delay as my computer sits in front of a window) on BlogTV. The show is called The Left Wing Conservative and the format is me analyzing the issues of the day and talking to visitors in the chat room (I may even put a few people on the air as callers or as guests!). The blog page will be @ http://theleftwingconservative.blogspot.com/ I too have a Social Networking page on ning.com @ http://theleftwingconservative.ning.com/ though that'll be used for stuff in-between shows and a place to gather for the radio version, which will (Hopefully ultimately) be on various Internet Radio stations either for the LIVE broadcast or aired via audio podcast and aired at a later time. The audio version will also utilize the services of either BlogTalkRadio or (More likely) TalkShoe for interactive purposes. This show will air Wednesday Nights @ 9:00 PM ET. In fact, speaking of politics, someone from Senator Barack Obama's campaign office here in Denver called me up last night to inform me of a rally being held in my neighborhood. I told him if I'm up and around and in a position to leave the building in the morning hours when the rally is supposed to start, I'll try to make it up there. Part of that rally would involve some good ol' fashioned door-to-door campaigning (I already told the City Clerk's office I would NOT work this election as a judge due to concerns that MANY of the same issues that plagued them in '06 would re-manifest themselves AT LEAST threefold this time around and I wanted NO part of it). If I *do* go, I'll try to get something with my iRiver for the radio show on Wednesday (I'm not gonna even bother with getting video for the TV show because the cam I have is so cheap and I'd need time just to get it re-encoded whereas the ManyCam player CAN play it back and stream it onto BlogTV and it's just not worth the trouble). The audio version will be archived and podcast in high-quality 128/44. My next project is really an extention of one I had to put on the back burner to deal with offline RW issues. But now that those have been dealt with (Albeit MUCH slower than I'd like), not only is my Classic TV Commercials podcast being resumed, but two things will happen. They are... 1). The name will be changed from Pat's Classic TV Commercials to Back To The Future TV - Classic Commercials Collection. The URL will be renamed (But don't go there to subscribe just yet as you'll soon find the URL to be outdated). 2). A **NEW** Video Podcast will be created for certain Classic TV Shows from the 1950s and 1960s (I mean we're talking some REAL gems here. NOT just some cheap ass penny-ante modern-day spoof from SNL or MadTV or something!). It will be simply called the Back To The Future TV Video Podcast. Don't bother with subscribing now because you won't find this podcast. So anyway, that's the latest from here. I'll post more details as they become available. Cheers :) -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado PODCASTS - AS MY WORLD TURNS - Blogger Page - http://asmyworldturnstv.blogspot.com/ BlogTV Page - http://www.blogtv.com/Shows/20453 AS MY WEIGHT LOSS WORLD TURNS - http://asmyweightlossworldturns.blogspot.com PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/ PAT'S HEALTH MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/ THE PAT COOK SHOW - http://www.livevideo.com/thepcshow THE PAT COOK SHOW (Video Podcast) - Blogger Page - http://thepctvshow.blogspot.com/ - BlogTV Page - http://www.blogtv.com/Shows/19924 **COMING SOON** - PAT'S CLASSIC TV COMMERCIALS VIDEO PODCAST - http://patsclassictvcommercials-ipod.blogspot.com/ (iPod), http://patsclassictvcommercials-flash.blogspot.com/ (Flash)
[videoblogging] Re: 12seconds.tv
This conversation actually came up ON Seesmic back in the day. There was a suggestion to limit responses to 90 seconds. This would have been intelligent for the reason that there were conversations that were branching out faster than viewers could consume the material. For instance... One person says I comb my dog's hair to the left, and then someone responds I comb it to the right. Meanwhile, a third person is replying to the first commment and leaving a ten-minute explanation about dog-grooming. By the time you watched the short video and the ten-minute video, there were already eight more responses on a couple of different tangents, some of which were ALSO 5 or 6 minutes long. On top of that, if you wanted to make your own response to someone's post, you missed out on all of the new posts that you then had to go back and watch, etc etc etc... Making a limitation of 90 seconds would have been a good idea if they were trying to emulate twitter and have people receive a limited amount of time to express themselves. 12 seconds is too short. It's like playing some cryptic game. 90 seconds was more of a you're babbling cutoff suggestion, not such a stringent restriction. Bill Cammack http://billcammack.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, Ive been on it a bit; theres a couple others on this list using it as well. I'm still having problems with the 12sec limit..sometimes I need 17secs to accomadate all my umms and uhhs. One thing good about it, is that it works and does what it says it does! by the time I get to the page, turn on my cam, etc.. I just want to do whatever im doing for the time it takes me to do it; which SHOULD only be 12secs, but rarely is. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:36 AM, darbycoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: has anyone else checked this out? i see that they're trying to take the success (if you will) of seesmic and combine it what that of twitter (its brevity). but are we really that ADD that we NEED to compress the time frame to 12 seconds? i think its novel but that's about it. as a culture - we're all about expedience - but in condensing and condensing the time frames in which we communicate are we changing how we communicate? personally - i've been watching a lot of longer format films/documentaries/etc lately because i've been feeling a need for something with depth/breadth/context/landscape. do you see value in 12seconds.tv? or is it just another niche thing. cheers scott -- Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://hatfactory.net AIM:schlomochat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Talent needed!
You're a blockbuster, Irina. *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unless you have millions and millions of views per each episode getv is a good brand, but most of my money has come from flat fee sponsorships because the per/view per/click stuff just doenst work for anything outside blockbusters On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. Our material doesn't get enough views to make those pay off. Our highest viewed video is around 200,000 and that's an anomaly. Most average 10k-50k or so, but gain views as the months go on. Hadn't checked our stats in a while. We're actually on the precipice of a significant number: 1,928,028 views across 66 videos since we launched in March 2007. *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]tim% 40frenchmaidtv.com wrote: Have you tried Revver, Blip, Break and Metacafe? Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] tim%40frenchmaidtv.com Add French Maid TV to Your iTunes @ http://frenchmaidtv.com/itunes http://1timstreet.com http://twitter.com/1timstreet On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Adam Quirk wrote: Some creative video people are as good at business as farmers are at rocket science. Or they just want to focus on the creative side and not worry about the business side. On that note, anyone reading this that thinks they can make money with Wreck Salvage please feel free to let us know how: [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com We'll try anything once. Except DVDA. AQ *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] tim%40frenchmaidtv.com wrote: Hey Marc, Remind me, If someone can produce, star and edit their own show why do they need you? Just kidding. I couldn't resist. Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] tim%40frenchmaidtv.com Add French Maid TV to Your iTunes @ http://frenchmaidtv.com/itunes http://1timstreet.com http://twitter.com/1timstreet On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:18 AM, mboxser wrote: Are you the next Ze, Chuck, Steve, Zadi? Kent? Lisa Nova? Want to make a show and get paid for it? I am looking for creative talent who produce, star and edit in their own shows- looking particularly for innovative news/politics people, as well as innovative shows around normal consumer/popular topics, but interested in anything and anyone. I work with a bunch of companies looking to staff up their content on several levels of investment- so please contact me and include links to you work at [EMAIL PROTECTED] marc%40boxser.com Many thanks, Marc Boxser [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Talent needed!
that is such a sweet thing to say! i always thought of myself as a cockbuster On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: You're a blockbuster, Irina. *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED]irinaski%40gmail.com wrote: unless you have millions and millions of views per each episode getv is a good brand, but most of my money has come from flat fee sponsorships because the per/view per/click stuff just doenst work for anything outside blockbusters On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com wrote: Yeah. Our material doesn't get enough views to make those pay off. Our highest viewed video is around 200,000 and that's an anomaly. Most average 10k-50k or so, but gain views as the months go on. Hadn't checked our stats in a while. We're actually on the precipice of a significant number: 1,928,028 views across 66 videos since we launched in March 2007. *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com quirk% 40wreckandsalvage.com / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]tim%40frenchmaidtv.com tim% 40frenchmaidtv.com wrote: Have you tried Revver, Blip, Break and Metacafe? Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] tim%40frenchmaidtv.com tim% 40frenchmaidtv.com Add French Maid TV to Your iTunes @ http://frenchmaidtv.com/itunes http://1timstreet.com http://twitter.com/1timstreet On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Adam Quirk wrote: Some creative video people are as good at business as farmers are at rocket science. Or they just want to focus on the creative side and not worry about the business side. On that note, anyone reading this that thinks they can make money with Wreck Salvage please feel free to let us know how: [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com quirk% 40wreckandsalvage.com We'll try anything once. Except DVDA. AQ *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com quirk% 40wreckandsalvage.com / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]tim%40frenchmaidtv.com tim%40frenchmaidtv.com wrote: Hey Marc, Remind me, If someone can produce, star and edit their own show why do they need you? Just kidding. I couldn't resist. Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] tim%40frenchmaidtv.com tim% 40frenchmaidtv.com Add French Maid TV to Your iTunes @ http://frenchmaidtv.com/itunes http://1timstreet.com http://twitter.com/1timstreet On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:18 AM, mboxser wrote: Are you the next Ze, Chuck, Steve, Zadi? Kent? Lisa Nova? Want to make a show and get paid for it? I am looking for creative talent who produce, star and edit in their own shows- looking particularly for innovative news/politics people, as well as innovative shows around normal consumer/popular topics, but interested in anything and anyone. I work with a bunch of companies looking to staff up their content on several levels of investment- so please contact me and include links to you work at [EMAIL PROTECTED] marc%40boxser.com marc%40boxser.com Many thanks, Marc Boxser [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Talent needed!
Ziing. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that is such a sweet thing to say! i always thought of myself as a cockbuster On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com wrote: You're a blockbuster, Irina. *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com quirk% 40wreckandsalvage.com / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED]irinaski%40gmail.com irinaski%40gmail.com wrote: unless you have millions and millions of views per each episode getv is a good brand, but most of my money has come from flat fee sponsorships because the per/view per/click stuff just doenst work for anything outside blockbusters On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com wrote: Yeah. Our material doesn't get enough views to make those pay off. Our highest viewed video is around 200,000 and that's an anomaly. Most average 10k-50k or so, but gain views as the months go on. Hadn't checked our stats in a while. We're actually on the precipice of a significant number: 1,928,028 views across 66 videos since we launched in March 2007. *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com quirk% 40wreckandsalvage.com quirk% 40wreckandsalvage.com / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]tim%40frenchmaidtv.com tim%40frenchmaidtv.com tim% 40frenchmaidtv.com wrote: Have you tried Revver, Blip, Break and Metacafe? Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] tim%40frenchmaidtv.com tim% 40frenchmaidtv.com tim% 40frenchmaidtv.com Add French Maid TV to Your iTunes @ http://frenchmaidtv.com/itunes http://1timstreet.com http://twitter.com/1timstreet On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Adam Quirk wrote: Some creative video people are as good at business as farmers are at rocket science. Or they just want to focus on the creative side and not worry about the business side. On that note, anyone reading this that thinks they can make money with Wreck Salvage please feel free to let us know how: [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com quirk% 40wreckandsalvage.com quirk% 40wreckandsalvage.com We'll try anything once. Except DVDA. AQ *Adam Quirk* / Wreck Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com quirk% 40wreckandsalvage.com quirk% 40wreckandsalvage.com / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim) On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] tim%40frenchmaidtv.comtim%40frenchmaidtv.com tim%40frenchmaidtv.com wrote: Hey Marc, Remind me, If someone can produce, star and edit their own show why do they need you? Just kidding. I couldn't resist. Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] tim%40frenchmaidtv.com tim% 40frenchmaidtv.com tim% 40frenchmaidtv.com Add French Maid TV to Your iTunes @ http://frenchmaidtv.com/itunes http://1timstreet.com http://twitter.com/1timstreet On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:18 AM, mboxser wrote: Are you the next Ze, Chuck, Steve, Zadi? Kent? Lisa Nova? Want to make a show and get paid for it? I am looking for creative talent who produce, star and edit in their own shows- looking particularly for innovative news/politics people, as well as innovative shows around normal consumer/popular topics, but interested in anything and anyone. I work with a bunch of companies looking to staff up their content on several levels of investment- so please contact me and include links to you work at [EMAIL PROTECTED] marc%40boxser.com marc%40boxser.com marc% 40boxser.com Many thanks, Marc Boxser [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have
Re: [videoblogging] Documentary Club
thanks scott! On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:31 AM, darbycoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that a lot of folks here are into documentaries - Doc Pop and I have started up a documentary club on ning. You can find it here http://documentaryclub.ning.com I've found a lot in my career of tv and video that by watching others work you can learn a lot - whether it be timing/techniques/composition/storytelling whatever. So I hope that you'll join us. We'll be watching two films a month - you don't have to do both - and we'll be discussing them after viewing them. We're even trying to rope in the director of a film or two to participate in the conversation. We're just now finalizing the list for the first month - we'll vote for the top 2 - keep it democratic and all. Thanks all. Scott Stead www.scottstead.com -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]