[videoblogging] OpenVideo Conference Meetup

2009-05-20 Thread Kara Andrade
Hey folks,
 
For all of us going to the Open video conference,
http://openvideoconference.org

I just created a Facebook event for a pre-conference meetup! I will be there
with a few friends some come on out!

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=78450249940


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Frequency of Distribution

2009-05-20 Thread Kath O'Donnell
Jay & Adrian, thanks for the examples of video tagging. Seth Keen's work
looks very cool. I always thought mpeg7 would be used for this but haven't
heard much about it anymore (& only looked into it years ago for some facial
recognition stuff which didn't end up happening). I shoot way too much video
(& take too many photos). most of it would be classed as dross to anyone but
me (Adrian :) ) but I've found I've looked back on it and found bits I've
missed etc or seen things in a different light after time, so I like having
the extra video. (& my videos are really just for me/family/friends) it
would be cool to tag it like on flickr though (but I must admit I only do
basic tagging on flickr too - not down to subject of individual shots). one
of the early videoblogging projects was for tagging clips wasn't it? I
forget the name of it. started with M I think?
kath


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Frequency of Distribution

2009-05-20 Thread Adrian Miles
quoting myself (on strike today so diligently not doing work...)

there was a hypercard stack made by an anthropologist/ethnographer  
years ago that let her add video and then in effect tag it (it was  
before we had tags) so that observational footage could be  
restructured in multiple ways. And after 15 minutes of Google:

http://orion.njit.edu/merlin/tools/c25/index.html

(all the programming architecture of QT comes from hypercard)

On 21/05/2009, at 9:53 AM, Adrian Miles wrote:

> Yep, but in some contexts we don't want or need to do this. eg
> observational doco, ethnography


cheers
Adrian Miles
adrian.mi...@rmit.edu.au
bachelor communication honours coordinator
vogmae.net.au



Re: [videoblogging] Re: Frequency of Distribution

2009-05-20 Thread Adrian Miles
Yep, but in some contexts we don't want or need to do this. eg  
observational doco, ethnography. And we can also think about how on  
one hand having a constraint like editing in camera etc is highly  
productive (in Melbourne we have, or had, the white gloves festival  
which was film, one roll, all had to edited in camera, well not edited  
but you know what i mean). But on the other hand you can also think  
about how working like that could also come from a time when film was  
expensive so you didn't just shoot.

Now that video is disposable the tension is both what to do with it  
all (and how), and also how do I not just shoot dross.


On 21/05/2009, at 1:15 AM, Adriana Kaegi wrote:

> i edit as i shoot so i spend less time actually editing. focus  
> is key. a


cheers
Adrian Miles
adrian.mi...@rmit.edu.au
bachelor communication honours coordinator
vogmae.net.au



RE: [videoblogging] Re: Reminder: Open Video Conference in June

2009-05-20 Thread Rambos Locker
You just have to go Heath .. Someone has to wear the Sony Vegas hat
..hahaha
 
Cheers Rambo 
http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com 
 
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From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:videoblogg...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Heath
Sent: Thursday, 21 May 2009 4:52 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Reminder: Open Video Conference in June
 




Hmmm I wonder if I should keep up my streak of NOT going to events with
other vloggers or should I break trend and go.

Seeing Richard and Rupert and a few others may be worth it

Heath
http://heathparks.  com

--- In videoblogging@ 
yahoogroups.com, "Richard (Show) Hall"  wrote:
>
> Ok ... not only am I seriously considering going, but I registered,
made
> reservations and everything ... so I am going, and it took me two
emails to
> say so ... see you there ... richard
> 
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard (Show) Hall <
> rich...@...> wrote:
> 
> > I'm seriously considering going.
> >
> > ...peace...richard
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Jay dedman  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> > I was told the rooms are about $170/night with the group rate, so
I'd
> >> > be interested in a roomshare if anyone else is.
> >> > Are people planning on staying elsewhere? I want to make sure I'm
> >> > where the action is :-)
> >>
> >> People are staying all over town...usually couchsurfing with
friends.
> >> I know its expensive to stay in NYC. The hostels are considerably
> >> cheaper, but offer much less privacy.
> >>
> >> You could make a page on http://videobloggin
 ggroup.pbwiki.com/ if you
> >> wanted to start a place to find room sharing.
> >>
> >> The event is at NYU...so Im sure all the after parties will take
place
> >> in Lower East Side.
> >>
> >> Jay
> >>
> >> --
> >> http://ryanishungry  .com
> >> http://jaydedman.  com
> >> http://twitter.  com/jaydedman
> >> 917 371 6790
> >> 
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Richard (Show) Hall
> > http://richardshow.  org
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Richard (Show) Hall
> http://richardshow.  org
> 
> 
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[videoblogging] Re: Reminder: Open Video Conference in June

2009-05-20 Thread Heath
Hmmm I wonder if I should keep up my streak of NOT going to events with other 
vloggers or should I break trend and go.

Seeing Richard and Rupert and a few others may be worth it

Heath
http://heathparks.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Richard (Show) Hall"  wrote:
>
> Ok ... not only am I seriously considering going, but I registered, made
> reservations and everything ... so I am going, and it took me two emails to
> say so ... see you there ... richard
> 
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard (Show) Hall <
> rich...@...> wrote:
> 
> > I'm seriously considering going.
> >
> > ...peace...richard
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Jay dedman  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> > I was told the rooms are about $170/night with the group rate, so I'd
> >> > be interested in a roomshare if anyone else is.
> >> > Are people planning on staying elsewhere? I want to make sure I'm
> >> > where the action is :-)
> >>
> >> People are staying all over town...usually couchsurfing with friends.
> >> I know its expensive to stay in NYC. The hostels are considerably
> >> cheaper, but offer much less privacy.
> >>
> >> You could make a page on http://videoblogginggroup.pbwiki.com/ if you
> >> wanted to start a place to find room sharing.
> >>
> >> The event is at NYU...so Im sure all the after parties will take place
> >> in Lower East Side.
> >>
> >> Jay
> >>
> >> --
> >> http://ryanishungry.com
> >> http://jaydedman.com
> >> http://twitter.com/jaydedman
> >> 917 371 6790
> >>  
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Richard (Show) Hall
> > http://richardshow.org
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Richard (Show) Hall
> http://richardshow.org
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




Re: [videoblogging] Reminder: Open Video Conference in June

2009-05-20 Thread trine bjørkmann berry
argh, I just found out i won't be able to come (wrong time of year to
ask school for funding, apparently)

gutted!

Trine

On 5/20/09, Lauren Galanter  wrote:
> Definitely awesome with a side of awesomesauce.
>
> 
>
> Lauren Galanter
>
> www.laurengalanter.com
> www.linkedin.com/in/laureng
> 610-761-4435
>
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:54 PM, schlomo rabinowitz
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Actually, I think that now upgrades it to, as the kids say, Wicked
>> Awesome!
>>
>>
>> Schlomo Rabinowitz
>> http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
>> http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
>> AIM:schlomochat
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Richard (Show) Hall <
>> rich...@richardshow.org > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Now that is really awesome!
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Rupert
>> > 
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > since you're all so bloody awesome, i'm probably going to be forced to
>> > > come too.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 19-May-09, at 3:26 PM, Richard (Show) Hall wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > No YOU'RE AWESOME!!!
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:53 PM, schlomo rabinowitz
>> > > >  
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > AWESOME
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Schlomo Rabinowitz
>> > > > > http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
>> > > > > http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
>> > > > > AIM:schlomochat
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Richard (Show) Hall <
>> > > > > rich...@richardshow.org  > 40richardshow.org> > > 40richardshow.org> > > > 40richardshow.org>> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Ok ... not only am I seriously considering going, but I
>> > > > registered, made
>> > > > > > reservations and everything ... so I am going, and it took me
>> > > > two emails
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > say so ... see you there ... richard
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard (Show) Hall <
>> > > > > > rich...@richardshow.org  > 40richardshow.org> > > 40richardshow.org> > > > 40richardshow.org> > > >
>> > > > > 40richardshow.org>> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I'm seriously considering going.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > ...peace...richard
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Jay dedman <
>> > jay.ded...@gmail.com  > >
>> > > > 
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > I was told the rooms are about $170/night with the group
>> > > > rate, so
>> > > > > I'd
>> > > > > > >> > be interested in a roomshare if anyone else is.
>> > > > > > >> > Are people planning on staying elsewhere? I want to make
>> > > > sure I'm
>> > > > > > >> > where the action is :-)
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> People are staying all over town...usually couchsurfing with
>> > > > friends.
>> > > > > > >> I know its expensive to stay in NYC. The hostels are
>> > > > considerably
>> > > > > > >> cheaper, but offer much less privacy.
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> You could make a page on http://
>> > > > videoblogginggroup.pbwiki.com/ if you
>> > > > > > >> wanted to start a place to find room sharing.
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> The event is at NYU...so Im sure all the after parties will
>> > > > take place
>> > > > > > >> in Lower East Side.
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> Jay
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> --
>> > > > > > >> http://ryanishungry.com
>> > > > > > >> http://jaydedman.com
>> > > > > > >> http://twitter.com/jaydedman
>> > > > > > >> 917 371 6790
>> > > > > > >>
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>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > Richard (Show) Hall
>> > > > > > > http://richardshow.org
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>> > > > > > http://richardshow.org
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[videoblogging] CALLING ALL DUTCH VIDEO ARTISTS

2009-05-20 Thread Brian Gonzalez
Hello All!

 I'm co-curating the video portion for Gaga Arts
Center'sDutch
Consciousness in all Media Exhibition in New York and although I am
pulling video artists from all over the world, I am also very open to
showing work from any of you. So if any of you are of Dutch descent or are
living/working in the Netherlands, respond ASAP and I'll give you all the
details on sending your work. The show is in just a couple of weeks so
please respond with haste.

I can't wait to see your work!
your fellow vlogger,
-Brian Gonzalez

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Frequency of Distribution

2009-05-20 Thread Adriana Kaegi
    i edit as i shoot so i spend less time actually editing. focus is key. a

--- On Wed, 5/20/09, Brook Hinton  wrote:

From: Brook Hinton 
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Frequency of Distribution
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 12:53 AM











 











  
  Everyone's different about shooting ratios and frequency and what

works for them, but I've found quite an opposite situation: when I

place an arbitrary limit on my shooting - e.g., ok, you can only shoot

ten minutes during the next two days, or for this particular journey

into the world, or you have one tape for the month etc. - I get much

more interesting material. Something about intensity of focus, about

being aware of the change that's occurring when I press the button.

I'm more in the moment, and do more with the moment.



It doesn't jibe well with the fast pace and high output culture of the

webular world though.



Brook



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film/video/audio art

www.brookhinton. com

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Re: [videoblogging] Reminder: Open Video Conference in June

2009-05-20 Thread Lauren Galanter
Definitely awesome with a side of awesomesauce.



Lauren Galanter

www.laurengalanter.com
www.linkedin.com/in/laureng
610-761-4435


On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:54 PM, schlomo rabinowitz wrote:

>
>
> Actually, I think that now upgrades it to, as the kids say, Wicked Awesome!
>
>
> Schlomo Rabinowitz
> http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
> http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
> AIM:schlomochat
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Richard (Show) Hall <
> rich...@richardshow.org > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Now that is really awesome!
> >
> > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Rupert 
> > 
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > since you're all so bloody awesome, i'm probably going to be forced to
> > > come too.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 19-May-09, at 3:26 PM, Richard (Show) Hall wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > No YOU'RE AWESOME!!!
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:53 PM, schlomo rabinowitz
> > > >  
> >wrote:
>
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > AWESOME
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Schlomo Rabinowitz
> > > > > http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
> > > > > http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
> > > > > AIM:schlomochat
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Richard (Show) Hall <
> > > > > rich...@richardshow.org   40richardshow.org>  > 40richardshow.org>  > > 40richardshow.org>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok ... not only am I seriously considering going, but I
> > > > registered, made
> > > > > > reservations and everything ... so I am going, and it took me
> > > > two emails
> > > > > to
> > > > > > say so ... see you there ... richard
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard (Show) Hall <
> > > > > > rich...@richardshow.org   40richardshow.org>  > 40richardshow.org>  > > 40richardshow.org>  > >
> > > > > 40richardshow.org>> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm seriously considering going.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ...peace...richard
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Jay dedman <
> > jay.ded...@gmail.com   >
> > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > I was told the rooms are about $170/night with the group
> > > > rate, so
> > > > > I'd
> > > > > > >> > be interested in a roomshare if anyone else is.
> > > > > > >> > Are people planning on staying elsewhere? I want to make
> > > > sure I'm
> > > > > > >> > where the action is :-)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> People are staying all over town...usually couchsurfing with
> > > > friends.
> > > > > > >> I know its expensive to stay in NYC. The hostels are
> > > > considerably
> > > > > > >> cheaper, but offer much less privacy.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> You could make a page on http://
> > > > videoblogginggroup.pbwiki.com/ if you
> > > > > > >> wanted to start a place to find room sharing.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The event is at NYU...so Im sure all the after parties will
> > > > take place
> > > > > > >> in Lower East Side.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Jay
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> http://ryanishungry.com
> > > > > > >> http://jaydedman.com
> > > > > > >> http://twitter.com/jaydedman
> > > > > > >> 917 371 6790
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Richard (Show) Hall
> > > > > > > http://richardshow.org
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Re: [videoblogging] Frequency of Distribution

2009-05-20 Thread Jay dedman
Forgot to add another link to Seth's work:
http://www.sethkeen.net/blog/2007/11/14/palabras-tagged-video-archive-2/
An example of how you could build projects out of raw clips...instead
of needing to just edit complete works.

Jay

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Jay dedman  wrote:
>> Technology has improved to the point where we can effortlessly output as
>> much material as we like or as much as we are able to produce. I think we're
>> facing a new issue of "How much SHOULD I output?". I've seen too much
>> footage hit the cutting room floor and eventually the tape erasure bins from
>> when I used to edit NYC news to throw away footage that I've shot that might
>> mean something to myself or someone else. At the same time, I don't want to
>> harp on one topic that I filmed two weeks ago for an entire month, because
>> I'm trying to output only 1-3 episodes per day.
>
> This is such a great email Bill because it illustrates a problem I
> hear often. Shooting loads of video, but then swamped in the editing.
>
> As Adrian mentioned, maybe online video will take on the Flickr model
> where you upload lots of small video clips like you would photos. Then
> you would have tools to arrange the clips through tags, sets,
> projects, etc.
>
> As a viewer, I could then browse through your life in video as I want
> to. As a creator, you would have your whole archive easily categorized
> so you could still edit larger works when you wanted. The problem
> solved is simply that your archives are no longer stuck on your hard
> drive.
>
> Seth Keen recently did this for World Vision:
> http://www.worldvision.com.au/Learn/VirtualTour.aspx
> You can see how no one needed to edit a complicated video...instead
> its all just grouped by tags...which can grow as more clips are added.
>
> He's done quite a bit of work building a tagging/presentation system
> in Wordpresswhich hopefully might someday be released.
>
> Jay
>
>
>
> --
> http://ryanishungry.com
> http://jaydedman.com
> http://twitter.com/jaydedman
> 917 371 6790
>



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Re: [videoblogging] Frequency of Distribution

2009-05-20 Thread Jay dedman
> Technology has improved to the point where we can effortlessly output as
> much material as we like or as much as we are able to produce. I think we're
> facing a new issue of "How much SHOULD I output?". I've seen too much
> footage hit the cutting room floor and eventually the tape erasure bins from
> when I used to edit NYC news to throw away footage that I've shot that might
> mean something to myself or someone else. At the same time, I don't want to
> harp on one topic that I filmed two weeks ago for an entire month, because
> I'm trying to output only 1-3 episodes per day.

This is such a great email Bill because it illustrates a problem I
hear often. Shooting loads of video, but then swamped in the editing.

As Adrian mentioned, maybe online video will take on the Flickr model
where you upload lots of small video clips like you would photos. Then
you would have tools to arrange the clips through tags, sets,
projects, etc.

As a viewer, I could then browse through your life in video as I want
to. As a creator, you would have your whole archive easily categorized
so you could still edit larger works when you wanted. The problem
solved is simply that your archives are no longer stuck on your hard
drive.

Seth Keen recently did this for World Vision:
http://www.worldvision.com.au/Learn/VirtualTour.aspx
You can see how no one needed to edit a complicated video...instead
its all just grouped by tags...which can grow as more clips are added.

He's done quite a bit of work building a tagging/presentation system
in Wordpresswhich hopefully might someday be released.

Jay



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