[videoblogging] Re: Fastest Video Compressor?

2005-12-06 Thread Bill Streeter
Yeah it's not what your using to compress as much as what codec that 
your compressing with. A lot of us like 3ivx which makes really nice 
quality low bitrate files and is pretty fast. The results are fully 
mp4 compliant and thus ipod compatible.

Also if you .mov files are already iPod compatible (encoded as MP4 
or H.264 with AAC audio) then there really is no reason to re-encode 
to make a m4v. m4v is just some wacky extension that Apple made up 
out of thin air. It's not some special iPod codec and it could cause 
other problems if you serving it from a server that doesn't know 
what it is. So if you use that extension you could really be causing 
more problems for your viewers. If you really want to give your ipod 
compatible .mov files the .m4v extension then just change the file 
name. It pretty much acomplishes the same thing.

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Harold Johnson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What do you all believe is the fastest video encoder?  I'm trying 
to encode
 a video podcast and videoblog (I suppose I should be using a 
compressor for
 the videoblog), yet every tool I've tested takes an unbelievably 
long time
 to encode.  I'm talking *hours* to encode 5 minutes of webcam-
quality .mov
 files into .m4v for iPods.  All except for Final Cut Pro HD, which 
encodes
 in a reasonable amount of time; but I'm getting mixed results with 
that.
 (One encode job turned out excellent; the next pauses during 
playback.)
 
 I've been testing QuickTime Pro, Final Cut Pro HD, BTV Pro, and 
Avid Free
 DV, and I'm about to test FFmpeg.  I'm not restricted to any 
particular
 operating system, so I'm interested in hearing your opinion of the 
best
 video encoder for Mac, Windows, or Linux systems.
 
 Harold J. Johnson
 Something That Happened
 http://somethingthathappened.com







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[videoblogging] Re: Fastest Video Compressor?

2005-12-06 Thread Steve Watkins
Bill is right that m4v is just a silly extension invented by apple,
and the files are just the same as .mp4's.

However you should not rename .mp4's and .m4v's to .mov. And you
should not rename .mov files to .mp4 or m4v. 

You can rename .m4v files to .mp4, and .mp4 files to .m4v, because
they are the same thing, the structure of the files is the same. 

As for encoding speeds, h264 is certainly more demanding than older
mpeg4. THere can be quite a difference between the speeds of different
encoders though, and quite a difference between PC and Mac ncoding times.

Encoders that are using ffmpeg/x264 to do the h264 encoding should be
fster than quicktime encoding, but its still pretty slow when Ive
tried things like iSquint or ffmpegx on the mac.

On Windows, Nero Recode seems much faster. It comes with Nero CD
writing software bundle, or is available seperately as 'nero digital'.
I believe a trial version is available. It can do older mpeg4 as well
as h264. The problem right now is that Im not sure how to set it so
that it creates ipod-compatible baseline h264. It might be possible
and I just havent tried the right settings yet, or may have to wait
for a newer version which would hopefully have an ipod profile option
to make this easy.

The resolution of your source footage, and whether you are doing 1
pass or 2 pass encoding will also affect encoding times.

Cheers

Steve of Elbows 
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So if you use that extension you could really be causing 
 more problems for your viewers. If you really want to give your ipod 
 compatible .mov files the .m4v extension then just change the file 
 name. It pretty much acomplishes the same thing.
 
 Bill Streeter
 LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
 www.lofistl.com
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Harold Johnson 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  What do you all believe is the fastest video encoder?  I'm trying 
 to encode
  a video podcast and videoblog (I suppose I should be using a 
 compressor for
  the videoblog), yet every tool I've tested takes an unbelievably 
 long time
  to encode.  I'm talking *hours* to encode 5 minutes of webcam-
 quality .mov
  files into .m4v for iPods.  All except for Final Cut Pro HD, which 
 encodes
  in a reasonable amount of time; but I'm getting mixed results with 
 that.
  (One encode job turned out excellent; the next pauses during 
 playback.)
  
  I've been testing QuickTime Pro, Final Cut Pro HD, BTV Pro, and 
 Avid Free
  DV, and I'm about to test FFmpeg.  I'm not restricted to any 
 particular
  operating system, so I'm interested in hearing your opinion of the 
 best
  video encoder for Mac, Windows, or Linux systems.
  
  Harold J. Johnson
  Something That Happened
  http://somethingthathappened.com
 








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