[videoblogging] Re: Licensing Deals

2008-09-17 Thread Markus Sandy
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm looking for a Licensing deal to use as a new example in my  
 Blogworld presentation.
 
 Has anyone struck a licensing deal where you still own your videos but  
 you are getting paid for someone else to use them?
 

I believe Ry and Jay's sustainability-related vids for Podtech is another 
example.






[videoblogging] Re: Licensing Deals

2008-09-17 Thread StartupStudio
I have licensing deals where I still own the content (some are just 
audio and some video). Just let me know what you need. 

Betsy Flanagan
http://startupstudio.com


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Tim Street 1timstreet@ wrote:
 
  I'm looking for a Licensing deal to use as a new example in my  
  Blogworld presentation.
  
  Has anyone struck a licensing deal where you still own your videos 
but  
  you are getting paid for someone else to use them?
  
 
 I believe Ry and Jay's sustainability-related vids for Podtech is 
another example.





Re: [videoblogging] Re: Licensing

2007-11-17 Thread Charles HOPE
There is a contradiction in the GPL inasmuch as it prevents people from 
restricting the freedom of others.  (Just as laws against slavery impinge upon 
the freedom of slave owners.) Nevertheless, those that desire a freer freedom 
can pick the BSD license, which permits the software to be incorporated in 
unfree systems.  This is how Microsoft Windows contains TCP/IP code from BSD 
unix.




Enric wrote:
 This may start a whole discussion back and forth.  But, I find a
 problem with the philosophy and idea behind fully GPL and free
 software. As Richard Stallman posits freedom, it's the freedom of
 anyone to use software without restriction or barriers.  The
 contradiction I find is that is that is purely accomplished by
 compelling those that create software to release all the code.  So
 there is a contradiction in the word freedom in that it is taking
 away freedom of choice from those that create the work.  I see the
 best result is a wide inclusion of those producing open source and
 mixed open and closed source products. That way a wide range of
 products and perspectives produce a rich, valuable source of software.
 
   -- Enric
 


[videoblogging] Re: Licensing

2007-11-17 Thread Enric
I should have clarified that the freedom I'm talking about is the
right to negotiate how your work is used.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is a contradiction in the GPL inasmuch as it prevents people
from 
 restricting the freedom of others.  (Just as laws against slavery
impinge upon 
 the freedom of slave owners.) Nevertheless, those that desire a
freer freedom 
 can pick the BSD license, which permits the software to be
incorporated in 
 unfree systems.  This is how Microsoft Windows contains TCP/IP code
from BSD unix.
 
 
 
 
 Enric wrote:
  This may start a whole discussion back and forth.  But, I find a
  problem with the philosophy and idea behind fully GPL and free
  software. As Richard Stallman posits freedom, it's the freedom of
  anyone to use software without restriction or barriers.  The
  contradiction I find is that is that is purely accomplished by
  compelling those that create software to release all the code.  So
  there is a contradiction in the word freedom in that it is taking
  away freedom of choice from those that create the work.  I see the
  best result is a wide inclusion of those producing open source and
  mixed open and closed source products. That way a wide range of
  products and perspectives produce a rich, valuable source of software.
  
-- Enric
 





Re: [videoblogging] Re: Licensing

2007-11-16 Thread Jen Simmons
I think vPIP is an awesome plug-in. I'm glad we get to ship it /  
promote it / teach people how to use it with Show in a Box.

I respect Enric's desire to not offer everything as GPL. Especially  
since he is working on his flash player to make it fabulous, and  
since the use of flash players by media companies big and small is a  
HUGE thing, that has to do with $$$ flowing... I respect Enric's  
plan, whatever it might be, to be able to charge people for use in  
the future / or whatever (I don't know what)  but to not simply  
give everything away as GPL.

We definitely need to work out the licensing issues around all the  
parts of SIAB. It's on the long list of things to do -- but no one  
has gotten to it with the focus and rigor needed to finish answering  
all the questions and teach everyone else what's up. I, for example,  
barely know what all the different terms mean -- and could easily use  
the wrong one when talking.

This issue does keep coming up internally, and does keep starting  
over at the beginning... without ever really getting resolved. So --  
sorry, Enric. I hope it seems less like pressure to get you to change  
your mind -- and more of a lack of understanding and clarity on the  
part of the SIAB team.

What we need is for someone in this group to take this on as a task  
and go the distance with figuring out what all this means. And write  
it all up as a clear thing on the wiki -- and hopefully in the future  
we can simply keep pointing to the wiki.

I think the issue is least resolved around the flash player issues --  
what are we going to include? How do those licenses line up.

Do we have any lawyers in this group?? Anyone who's worked on  
software licensing before?? Any volunteers to really figure this out???

Jen


On Nov 16, 2007, at 5:10 pm, Enric wrote:

 Yes, I've been finding it a bit frustrating getting repeated questions
 on why vPIP isn't GPL that I've explained several times.



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Licensing

2007-11-16 Thread Jen Simmons
I invite the discussion -- especially as someone who is about to put  
a lot of time, effort, and years of skill into creating a kick-ass  
themeing engine then to give it away for free?? And as someone  
who runs her own business full-time, relying on my client base of  
income (ie: not someone who's working for a large company who pays me  
a salary, and then wants to release my work as GPL -- which is how  
most of Drupal is getting built).

Mostly people will use SIAB as a way to get out of hiring a  
designer / developer, not as a way TO hire a desiger / developer, and  
share their results with the world (again, as Drupal works)

...

j

Jen Simmons
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://jensimmons.com
http://milkweedmediadesign.com
917-455-0022
skype: jensimmons

On Nov 16, 2007, at 6:19 pm, Enric wrote:

 This may start a whole discussion back and forth. But, I find a
 problem with the philosophy and idea behind fully GPL and free
 software. As Richard Stallman posits freedom, it's the freedom of
 anyone to use software without restriction or barriers. The
 contradiction I find is that is that is purely accomplished by
 compelling those that create software to release all the code. So
 there is a contradiction in the word freedom in that it is taking
 away freedom of choice from those that create the work. I see the
 best result is a wide inclusion of those producing open source and
 mixed open and closed source products. That way a wide range of
 products and perspectives produce a rich, valuable source of software.

 -- Enric



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[videoblogging] Re: Licensing

2007-11-16 Thread Enric
This may start a whole discussion back and forth.  But, I find a
problem with the philosophy and idea behind fully GPL and free
software. As Richard Stallman posits freedom, it's the freedom of
anyone to use software without restriction or barriers.  The
contradiction I find is that is that is purely accomplished by
compelling those that create software to release all the code.  So
there is a contradiction in the word freedom in that it is taking
away freedom of choice from those that create the work.  I see the
best result is a wide inclusion of those producing open source and
mixed open and closed source products. That way a wide range of
products and perspectives produce a rich, valuable source of software.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jen Simmons
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think vPIP is an awesome plug-in. I'm glad we get to ship it /  
 promote it / teach people how to use it with Show in a Box.
 
 I respect Enric's desire to not offer everything as GPL. Especially  
 since he is working on his flash player to make it fabulous, and  
 since the use of flash players by media companies big and small is a  
 HUGE thing, that has to do with $$$ flowing... I respect Enric's  
 plan, whatever it might be, to be able to charge people for use in  
 the future / or whatever (I don't know what)  but to not simply  
 give everything away as GPL.
 
 We definitely need to work out the licensing issues around all the  
 parts of SIAB. It's on the long list of things to do -- but no one  
 has gotten to it with the focus and rigor needed to finish answering  
 all the questions and teach everyone else what's up. I, for example,  
 barely know what all the different terms mean -- and could easily use  
 the wrong one when talking.
 
 This issue does keep coming up internally, and does keep starting  
 over at the beginning... without ever really getting resolved. So --  
 sorry, Enric. I hope it seems less like pressure to get you to change  
 your mind -- and more of a lack of understanding and clarity on the  
 part of the SIAB team.
 
 What we need is for someone in this group to take this on as a task  
 and go the distance with figuring out what all this means. And write  
 it all up as a clear thing on the wiki -- and hopefully in the future  
 we can simply keep pointing to the wiki.
 
 I think the issue is least resolved around the flash player issues --  
 what are we going to include? How do those licenses line up.
 
 Do we have any lawyers in this group?? Anyone who's worked on  
 software licensing before?? Any volunteers to really figure this out???
 
 Jen
 
 
 On Nov 16, 2007, at 5:10 pm, Enric wrote:
 
  Yes, I've been finding it a bit frustrating getting repeated questions
  on why vPIP isn't GPL that I've explained several times.
 
 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]