Re: [videoblogging] Re: Scripting News: 4/18/2007

2007-04-20 Thread sull

 Of course, if the mainstream media weren't reporting on it, how many
 of us would know about it at all?


We would all know about it as stories disseminate quickly on the net.
The better question to pose is, how many of us would feel inundated with the
redundant prone coverage?

New information on a story needs to be reported on.  But as we all know, MSM
likes to saturate their broadcasts with repetitive audio/visuals and slurp
in all the usual suspected Reasons Why.   Serve it while its hot!
They call in the experts to get their latest audible clip circulating within
the conversation and at the end of the day, the numbers look good.
Advertisers are pleased.  Everybody loves a big story.  Afterall, the Iraq
war has lost its luster and the casualties over there have become normalized
to some extent at least in relation to our culture's attention.  So it
seems.  I am referring to the casualties, not the politics. Obviously
everyone is READY for politics.

Now, I have been a non-subscriber of TV for a over a year now so the only
content I get is what I voluntarily go grab on the net or newspaper.  So
inundation and disappointment of MSM mostly eludes me now.
To those that have TV, my only suggestion is to leave it off as often as you
can.

As for the issue of Winer and Videoblogging the whole discussion gives
me a bad taste.  It's a waste of time.  It really is.  In a nutshell.
People are sick in this world.  Any enabling technology that exists -for the
people- will ultimately expose such sick people.  Utterly unavoidable.
Reputations of technology do not exist.
People who use technology are not defamed.

Sull


On 4/20/07, Justin Kownacki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   The real problem isn't people doing stupid things for attention --
 that's always existed and always will. The problem is in the general
 public paying attention. If we were less of a gee whiz culture,
 these people wouldn't be getting our attention in the first place.

 Of course, if the mainstream media weren't reporting on it, how many
 of us would know about it at all?

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[videoblogging] Re: Scripting News: 4/18/2007 (moving off topic)

2007-04-20 Thread Aldon Hynes
I referenced this discussion briefly in a recent blog post,
http://www.orient-lodge.com/node/2262

Especial hat tip to whomever it was that pointed out Kevin Whitrick's
suicide in a video chat room.

Aldon



[videoblogging] Re: Scripting News: 4/18/2007

2007-04-20 Thread Pope Hal Tse Kometes KSC
 Dave Winer wrote this post:
 
 Vlogging comes to mass murder

 
 Share your thoughts with him.
 
 I did.
 
 --Steve
 --
 Steve Garfield
 http://SteveGarfield.com

Greetings and salutations,  

I think this is my first post to the group and I should have started 
earlier on a less distressing topic.
 I posted  a response  at  http://blog.john-paxton.com/2007/04/19/a-
chroma-keyed--massacre-project--away--vlogging-a-dead-horse.aspx  
which to summarize came out as. 

I can't think that this would ever be a reasonable way to think 
and live your life trying to work out .  What cause is being advanced 
here that   couldn't be leveled at the station  covering Oswald's 
murder by Jack Ruby?  Maybe Zapruder was a nascent vlogger ?   Could  
bic  and moleskine  wouldn't be complicit in had  he been more into  
good penmanship?  Were the murderers of Daniel Pearl vlogging?   
Hopefully my argument ad absurdum is bugging you as much as it did 
for me to type it.

...Way too many groups are taking the foreground events and 
contextualizing , ne compositing it,  to fit  their own interests, 
agendas or regular subject matter.  

To date  it doesn't appear that  the murderer posted it to the myriad 
of  video sites,  blogs, a personal webpage of did anything other 
than use OLD methods  ( relatively in the case of Quicktime)   to 
MAIL  material.  Gee   let's go after Franklin now for touting the 
post office not knowing the evil it could be used for   His 
methods were akin to a PR agency which  may tell Bill Hicks fans more 
than they need to know. 

I hope to get an intro in and something of a happier not in the near 
future. 

Regards 
John 











[videoblogging] Re: Scripting News: 4/18/2007

2007-04-19 Thread Gena
I've got to go to work but I just left a few words. I'm still trying
to process what is happening and this tragic last mode of expression.

It is really important that we make an attempt to respectfully let
him know that this was not the term to be used. 

Others can and will pick up the word and this is one context I think
we all can agree we don't want vlogging to be used.

Take care of yourself and do the best you can,

Gena
http://outonethestoop.


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dave Winer wrote this post:
 
 Vlogging comes to mass murder
 
 The Virginia Tech shooter sent a package of video and pictures to NBC.
 
 In other words, vlogging comes to mass murder, in ways no one  
 anticipated (or no one I know).
 
 http://scripting.com/
 
 Share your thoughts with him.
 
 I did.
 
 --Steve
 --
 Steve Garfield
 http://SteveGarfield.com





[videoblogging] Re: Scripting News: 4/18/2007

2007-04-19 Thread missbhavens1969
Hmmm...what bothers me more, the fact that he actually believes it's
wrong to hold all the footage because It's 2007, and it's a
decentralized world or the fact that at the time I write this 75% of
his comments are about the other half of his post regarding online
banking.

I rarely swear in print but this is just the most insane bullshit.
Serious bullshit fucking shit-for-brains bullshit. Dick ass bullshit.
Bullshit.

Misusing the word vlogging was just a bullshit bonus.

Bekah
--
http://www.missbhavens.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dave Winer wrote this post:
 
 Vlogging comes to mass murder
 
 The Virginia Tech shooter sent a package of video and pictures to NBC.
 
 In other words, vlogging comes to mass murder, in ways no one  
 anticipated (or no one I know).
 
 http://scripting.com/
 
 Share your thoughts with him.
 
 I did.
 
 --Steve
 --
 Steve Garfield
 http://SteveGarfield.com





[videoblogging] Re: Scripting News: 4/18/2007

2007-04-19 Thread Heath
It's called coping it's how we get through life.  

The same day the VT shootings happened 66 people were killed in Iraq 
in a suicide bomb, twice the number killed in VT.  Why does that 
warrent barely a blurb?  why don't more people care?  you gave the 
answer later on when you were talking about the dog food thing.  It 
affected you and it affected people you know, therefore it is 
more real to you.

Empathy and sympathy can only go so far otherwise you do become numb 
to everything and when that happens you lose the ability to care.  As 
human beings we have a finite abilty to feel, so when we do it is 
what affects us closely.  Is it right or wrong? I don't know, it is 
what it is.

And as far as the mainstream media's coverage, what should they do?  
How should they cover it?  It's always a fine line between the right 
to know and privacy.  I hear a lot of people on this list bash the 
MSM but I see very few answers or way to solve the issues that they 
see.  How can we expect anything better if we can't, won't or don't 
know a better way?  And who says what is better or not better?  We 
all come from different backgrounds, belief's, etc.  It's a balancing 
act, always has been.

And as far as calling what this guy did as vlogging, he's an idiot.  
But that is just my opinion

Heath
http://batmangeek.com


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm kind of getting off topic here a bit, but I am so angry
 
 I'm angry about the corporate media's ineptitude and their  
 condescension towards our media.
 
 We are 100 times more accurate and informative than those 
corporate  
 wigs and pasty faces.
 
 I'm not 'trying to process what is happening and this tragic last  
 mode of expression.'
 
 No offense meant, Gena, but I'm all done trying to process  
 sociopathic mass killing.
 
 I struggled with the 50 or so dead Afghanis at the wedding party 
in  
 2002, and the steady march to the grave for hundreds of thousands 
of  
 brown people on the other side of the planet, so we can beat our  
 chests and pretend that we are defending America, when in reality 
we  
 are doing nothing but ensuring that there will be hundreds of  
 thousands more in the years to come.
 
 I struggles with the idea that 2 in 10 Americans are uninsured or  
 underinsured. I wonder how many people die per day because of that.
 
 I'm sorry if some of you think that is crude, rude, or otherwise  
 unfeeling, to compare this tragedy to something so far away, or so  
 fuzzy in terms of focus, but there is really no difference in my 
mind  
 between people on the other side of the planet being blown up, 
shot,  
 beheaded, etc, people dying because they can't afford to 'shop for  
 healthcare', and those unfortunate students and faculty at VT 
being  
 gunned down by a lone psycho. It's all the same. Bad people making  
 decisions to kill people. The only difference is that we can 
control  
 public policy, but we can't control the lone psycho,
 
 I think that's one of the things that has got me so burned about 
this.
 
 This is just a taste of the reality we are foisting upon people 
all  
 over the planet, and to see this outpouring of grief and knowing 
that  
 life in America has stopped because of this butchery just pisses 
me  
 off. This happens to brown people across the world everyday in our  
 name, and we, as a people, don't give one shit. When it happens to  
 'our' children, to our friends and family, the world must stop and  
 pay their respects. I am going to catch some flamage from this for  
 sure, but I don't care.
 
 I'm too numb from death and dismemberment to really feel for these  
 kids that so tragically lost their lives to the actions of a well  
 armed sociopath. I guess to some of you that will make me a 
monster,  
 but oh well, that's the truth.
 
 A couple former athletes of mine go to VT, and I have no idea 
whether  
 or not they were involved. I'm betting that they were not, based 
on  
 the sheer numbers of students, but I can't be sure. Perhaps that  
 could cut through the numbness and force me to re-examine my  
 position. I do hope that is not the case.
 
 This reminds me of the sniper a few years ago. He was caught a few  
 miles from my former home in Maryland. At the same time those 7  
 people were killed by that lone psychopath, 9 people died of a  
 listeria outbreak 20 miles north of my home. The corporate media 
was  
 nearly silent. A lone gunman that we could never hope to control 
gets  
 all the coverage, and a systemic problem that we could fix gets  
 ignored. It was horrible.
 
 I will not be suprised in the least if vlogging and blogging wind 
up  
 being tied into this horrible tragedy. We frighten the corporate  
 media, and if they can make us look like an 'Other' they will do so.
 
 Those of you who watched post season football may remember the  
 demonization of 'the bloggers' by the on air personalities. I have 
no  
 idea why 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Scripting News: 4/18/2007

2007-04-19 Thread Steve Garfield
Hi Heath,
I'm glad you brought this up.

Like I've been saying all along, videoblogging brings us closer  
together.

I now know a little bit about a girl from Latvia who does a vlog with  
her doing a fake news show, going to the beach and eating ice cream.

I'd like to see the media show put up little biographies of the 66  
people who were killed in Iraq on that day and the 100's more who  
were killed yesterday and the day before that.

Can they do that?

Can we do that?

--Steve

On Apr 19, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Heath wrote:

 It's called coping it's how we get through life.

 The same day the VT shootings happened 66 people were killed in Iraq
 in a suicide bomb, twice the number killed in VT.  Why does that
 warrent barely a blurb?  why don't more people care?  you gave the
 answer later on when you were talking about the dog food thing.  It
 affected you and it affected people you know, therefore it is
 more real to you.

 Empathy and sympathy can only go so far otherwise you do become numb
 to everything and when that happens you lose the ability to care.  As
 human beings we have a finite abilty to feel, so when we do it is
 what affects us closely.  Is it right or wrong? I don't know, it is
 what it is.

 And as far as the mainstream media's coverage, what should they do?
 How should they cover it?  It's always a fine line between the right
 to know and privacy.  I hear a lot of people on this list bash the
 MSM but I see very few answers or way to solve the issues that they
 see.  How can we expect anything better if we can't, won't or don't
 know a better way?  And who says what is better or not better?  We
 all come from different backgrounds, belief's, etc.  It's a balancing
 act, always has been.

 And as far as calling what this guy did as vlogging, he's an idiot.
 But that is just my opinion

 Heath
 http://batmangeek.com


 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm kind of getting off topic here a bit, but I am so angry

 I'm angry about the corporate media's ineptitude and their
 condescension towards our media.

 We are 100 times more accurate and informative than those
 corporate
 wigs and pasty faces.

 I'm not 'trying to process what is happening and this tragic last
 mode of expression.'

 No offense meant, Gena, but I'm all done trying to process
 sociopathic mass killing.

 I struggled with the 50 or so dead Afghanis at the wedding party
 in
 2002, and the steady march to the grave for hundreds of thousands
 of
 brown people on the other side of the planet, so we can beat our
 chests and pretend that we are defending America, when in reality
 we
 are doing nothing but ensuring that there will be hundreds of
 thousands more in the years to come.

 I struggles with the idea that 2 in 10 Americans are uninsured or
 underinsured. I wonder how many people die per day because of that.

 I'm sorry if some of you think that is crude, rude, or otherwise
 unfeeling, to compare this tragedy to something so far away, or so
 fuzzy in terms of focus, but there is really no difference in my
 mind
 between people on the other side of the planet being blown up,
 shot,
 beheaded, etc, people dying because they can't afford to 'shop for
 healthcare', and those unfortunate students and faculty at VT
 being
 gunned down by a lone psycho. It's all the same. Bad people making
 decisions to kill people. The only difference is that we can
 control
 public policy, but we can't control the lone psycho,

 I think that's one of the things that has got me so burned about
 this.

 This is just a taste of the reality we are foisting upon people
 all
 over the planet, and to see this outpouring of grief and knowing
 that
 life in America has stopped because of this butchery just pisses
 me
 off. This happens to brown people across the world everyday in our
 name, and we, as a people, don't give one shit. When it happens to
 'our' children, to our friends and family, the world must stop and
 pay their respects. I am going to catch some flamage from this for
 sure, but I don't care.

 I'm too numb from death and dismemberment to really feel for these
 kids that so tragically lost their lives to the actions of a well
 armed sociopath. I guess to some of you that will make me a
 monster,
 but oh well, that's the truth.

 A couple former athletes of mine go to VT, and I have no idea
 whether
 or not they were involved. I'm betting that they were not, based
 on
 the sheer numbers of students, but I can't be sure. Perhaps that
 could cut through the numbness and force me to re-examine my
 position. I do hope that is not the case.

 This reminds me of the sniper a few years ago. He was caught a few
 miles from my former home in Maryland. At the same time those 7
 people were killed by that lone psychopath, 9 people died of a
 listeria outbreak 20 miles north of my home. The corporate media
 was
 nearly silent. A lone gunman that we could never hope to control
 gets
 all the 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Scripting News: 4/18/2007

2007-04-19 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
Would you watch that?

Den 19.04.2007 kl. 17:13 skrev Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi Heath,
 I'm glad you brought this up.

 Like I've been saying all along, videoblogging brings us closer
 together.

 I now know a little bit about a girl from Latvia who does a vlog with
 her doing a fake news show, going to the beach and eating ice cream.

 I'd like to see the media show put up little biographies of the 66
 people who were killed in Iraq on that day and the 100's more who
 were killed yesterday and the day before that.

 Can they do that?

 Can we do that?

 --Steve

 On Apr 19, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Heath wrote:

 It's called coping it's how we get through life.

 The same day the VT shootings happened 66 people were killed in Iraq
 in a suicide bomb, twice the number killed in VT.  Why does that
 warrent barely a blurb?  why don't more people care?  you gave the
 answer later on when you were talking about the dog food thing.  It
 affected you and it affected people you know, therefore it is
 more real to you.

 Empathy and sympathy can only go so far otherwise you do become numb
 to everything and when that happens you lose the ability to care.  As
 human beings we have a finite abilty to feel, so when we do it is
 what affects us closely.  Is it right or wrong? I don't know, it is
 what it is.

 And as far as the mainstream media's coverage, what should they do?
 How should they cover it?  It's always a fine line between the right
 to know and privacy.  I hear a lot of people on this list bash the
 MSM but I see very few answers or way to solve the issues that they
 see.  How can we expect anything better if we can't, won't or don't
 know a better way?  And who says what is better or not better?  We
 all come from different backgrounds, belief's, etc.  It's a balancing
 act, always has been.

 And as far as calling what this guy did as vlogging, he's an idiot.
 But that is just my opinion

 Heath
 http://batmangeek.com


 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm kind of getting off topic here a bit, but I am so angry

 I'm angry about the corporate media's ineptitude and their
 condescension towards our media.

 We are 100 times more accurate and informative than those
 corporate
 wigs and pasty faces.

 I'm not 'trying to process what is happening and this tragic last
 mode of expression.'

 No offense meant, Gena, but I'm all done trying to process
 sociopathic mass killing.

 I struggled with the 50 or so dead Afghanis at the wedding party
 in
 2002, and the steady march to the grave for hundreds of thousands
 of
 brown people on the other side of the planet, so we can beat our
 chests and pretend that we are defending America, when in reality
 we
 are doing nothing but ensuring that there will be hundreds of
 thousands more in the years to come.

 I struggles with the idea that 2 in 10 Americans are uninsured or
 underinsured. I wonder how many people die per day because of that.

 I'm sorry if some of you think that is crude, rude, or otherwise
 unfeeling, to compare this tragedy to something so far away, or so
 fuzzy in terms of focus, but there is really no difference in my
 mind
 between people on the other side of the planet being blown up,
 shot,
 beheaded, etc, people dying because they can't afford to 'shop for
 healthcare', and those unfortunate students and faculty at VT
 being
 gunned down by a lone psycho. It's all the same. Bad people making
 decisions to kill people. The only difference is that we can
 control
 public policy, but we can't control the lone psycho,

 I think that's one of the things that has got me so burned about
 this.

 This is just a taste of the reality we are foisting upon people
 all
 over the planet, and to see this outpouring of grief and knowing
 that
 life in America has stopped because of this butchery just pisses
 me
 off. This happens to brown people across the world everyday in our
 name, and we, as a people, don't give one shit. When it happens to
 'our' children, to our friends and family, the world must stop and
 pay their respects. I am going to catch some flamage from this for
 sure, but I don't care.

 I'm too numb from death and dismemberment to really feel for these
 kids that so tragically lost their lives to the actions of a well
 armed sociopath. I guess to some of you that will make me a
 monster,
 but oh well, that's the truth.

 A couple former athletes of mine go to VT, and I have no idea
 whether
 or not they were involved. I'm betting that they were not, based
 on
 the sheer numbers of students, but I can't be sure. Perhaps that
 could cut through the numbness and force me to re-examine my
 position. I do hope that is not the case.

 This reminds me of the sniper a few years ago. He was caught a few
 miles from my former home in Maryland. At the same time those 7
 people were killed by that lone psychopath, 9 people died of a
 listeria outbreak 20 miles north of my home. The corporate 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Scripting News: 4/18/2007

2007-04-19 Thread Rupert
Define 'watch' ;)

Would I 'watch' the bios of the VTech victims? No. But I looked at  
some of them in my Independent newspaper yesterday to try and get in  
touch with the fact that they were like my wife, my daughter, my  
father, and that felt good and bad at the same time.

I have a friend who was paid to write full obituaries for every  
single one of the firefighters killed on 9/11. the families were  
thankful, and people read them and connected on a human level.  it  
doesn't demand 'watching', just distribution and a different type of  
consumption from the single-channel keep-em-hooked-in rolling news  
nightmare that is modern network TV news.

Paddy Chayefsky satirized it 30 years ago in Network - I bet even  
he'd be surprised how close he was to how it's turned out.  This is  
the main speech from the head of the TV network, which sums up the  
financial imperative, and I think it's beautiful:

Arthur Jensen: It is the international system of currency which  
determines the vitality of life on this planet. THAT is the natural  
order of things today. THAT is the atomic and subatomic and galactic  
structure of things today. And YOU have meddled with the primal  
forces of nature. And YOU WILL ATONE. Am I getting through to you,  
Mr. Beale? You get up on your little 21-inch screen and howl about  
America, and democracy. There is no America; there is no democracy.  
There is only IBM, and ITT, and ATT, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide,  
and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today.

You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I  
won't have it. Is that clear? ... You are an old man who thinks in  
terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations; there are no  
peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no  
third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of  
systems; one vast, interwoven, interacting, multivaried,  
multinational dominion of DOLLARS!

Rupert
http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/
http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/

On 19 Apr 2007, at 16:28, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:

Would you watch that?

Den 19.04.2007 kl. 17:13 skrev Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Hi Heath,
  I'm glad you brought this up.
 
  Like I've been saying all along, videoblogging brings us closer
  together.
 
  I now know a little bit about a girl from Latvia who does a vlog with
  her doing a fake news show, going to the beach and eating ice cream.
 
  I'd like to see the media show put up little biographies of the 66
  people who were killed in Iraq on that day and the 100's more who
  were killed yesterday and the day before that.
 
  Can they do that?
 
  Can we do that?
 
  --Steve
 
  On Apr 19, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Heath wrote:
 
  It's called coping it's how we get through life.
 
  The same day the VT shootings happened 66 people were killed in Iraq
  in a suicide bomb, twice the number killed in VT. Why does that
  warrent barely a blurb? why don't more people care? you gave the
  answer later on when you were talking about the dog food thing. It
  affected you and it affected people you know, therefore it is
  more real to you.
 
  Empathy and sympathy can only go so far otherwise you do become numb
  to everything and when that happens you lose the ability to care. As
  human beings we have a finite abilty to feel, so when we do it is
  what affects us closely. Is it right or wrong? I don't know, it is
  what it is.
 
  And as far as the mainstream media's coverage, what should they do?
  How should they cover it? It's always a fine line between the right
  to know and privacy. I hear a lot of people on this list bash the
  MSM but I see very few answers or way to solve the issues that  
they
  see. How can we expect anything better if we can't, won't or don't
  know a better way? And who says what is better or not better? We
  all come from different backgrounds, belief's, etc. It's a balancing
  act, always has been.
 
  And as far as calling what this guy did as vlogging, he's an idiot.
  But that is just my opinion
 
  Heath
  http://batmangeek.com
 
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm kind of getting off topic here a bit, but I am so angry
 
  I'm angry about the corporate media's ineptitude and their
  condescension towards our media.
 
  We are 100 times more accurate and informative than those
  corporate
  wigs and pasty faces.
 
  I'm not 'trying to process what is happening and this tragic last
  mode of expression.'
 
  No offense meant, Gena, but I'm all done trying to process
  sociopathic mass killing.
 
  I struggled with the 50 or so dead Afghanis at the wedding party
  in
  2002, and the steady march to the grave for hundreds of thousands
  of
  brown people on the other side of the planet, so we can beat our
  chests and pretend that we are defending America, when in reality
  we
  are doing nothing but ensuring that there will be hundreds of
  

[videoblogging] Re: Scripting News: 4/18/2007

2007-04-19 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Right on.
 The other thing that I said in my comments on Dave's blog was, If  
 he'd written a personal statement and sent it to NBC, would you have  
 called it Blogging? I doubt you'd have thought you could get away  
 with that.

If you don't define something (videoblogging), others will define it
for you.  

  -- Enric
  -==-
  http://cirne.com

 
 On 19 Apr 2007, at 14:11, Gary Short wrote:
 
 I did too, you can read my posting at http://www.garyshort.org/?p=594
 
 Cheers,
 Gary
 
 On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:09:49 -0400, Steve Garfield wrote
   Dave Winer wrote this post:
  
   Vlogging comes to mass murder
  
   The Virginia Tech shooter sent a package of video and pictures to  
 NBC.
  
   In other words, vlogging comes to mass murder, in ways no one
   anticipated (or no one I know).
  
   http://scripting.com/
  
   Share your thoughts with him.
  
   I did.
  
   --Steve
   --
   Steve Garfield
   http://SteveGarfield.com
  
  
 
 -- 
 Gary Short
 http://www.garyshort.org
 
 
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