Re: [videoblogging] Re: One Click buttons

2005-10-30 Thread Lucas Gonze
On 10/30/05, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Clarification... not sure what the mime-type is supposed to be for .pcast 
> files.
> But, for RSS, its as stated below.
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> -Josh
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> On 10/30/05, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You need to use "application/rss+xml"
> > not "application/xml+rss"
> >
> > -Josh

If you HEAD Peter's .pcast, you'll see application/rss+xml.


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: One Click buttons

2005-10-30 Thread Joshua Kinberg
You need to use "application/rss+xml"
not "application/xml+rss"

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: One Click buttons

2005-10-30 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Clarification... not sure what the mime-type is supposed to be for .pcast files.
But, for RSS, its as stated below.

-Josh

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> You need to use "application/rss+xml"
> not "application/xml+rss"
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: One Click buttons

2005-10-30 Thread Lucas Gonze
Anybody feel like helping me in a doomed crusade to bring these issues
to Apple's attention?

Details at: http://gonze.com/weblog/story/it1c
With followup on MIME type: http://gonze.com/weblog/story/it1c

On 10/30/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:16:15 +0100, Lucas Gonze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > On 10/30/05, petertheman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Thanks Lucas!
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> >> But if I don't use that application/xml+rss, it doesn't work.
> >
> > Curious and curiouser.  It works for me with application/octets as
> > long as the extension is .pcast.  WTF?
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> IANAAD (I am not an application developer), but I'm guessing that the MIME
> type doesn't matter as long as it's one that the browser hands off to
> Windows instead of handling it itself. But I do agree that
> application/rss+xml would be a pretty silly thing to use. If
> application/octets work, I'd use that.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: One Click buttons

2005-10-30 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:16:15 +0100, Lucas Gonze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> On 10/30/05, petertheman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Thanks Lucas!
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>> But if I don't use that application/xml+rss, it doesn't work.
>
> Curious and curiouser.  It works for me with application/octets as
> long as the extension is .pcast.  WTF?

IANAAD (I am not an application developer), but I'm guessing that the MIME  
type doesn't matter as long as it's one that the browser hands off to  
Windows instead of handling it itself. But I do agree that  
application/rss+xml would be a pretty silly thing to use. If  
application/octets work, I'd use that.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: One Click buttons

2005-10-30 Thread Lucas Gonze
On 10/30/05, petertheman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Lucas!
>
> But if I don't use that application/xml+rss, it doesn't work.

Curious and curiouser.  It works for me with application/octets as
long as the extension is .pcast.  WTF?

Note that if application/xml+rss is the content type for this new
metafile format that Apple pulled out of the air, then that's pretty
insane because (1) this new metafile format is not RSS by any stretch
and (2) the existing one-click spec already uses that content type, so
Apple didn't just blow it off, it directly conflicted with it.

Apple needs to get its house in order on this.

>
> here's what happens in Win Xp with Firefox:
>
> application/xml+rss: ok, iTunes opens up.
> application/xml: FF shows XML file
> no special header: FF shows it as an html page.
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> What should I do?
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> > > I guess this is the right time to point out that Mefeedia will
> > > generate the pcast file for you:
> > >
> > > http://mefeedia.com/help/javascript/itunes.php?id=1118
> >
> > Bug report for the windows version:
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> > It returns application/rss+xml for the MIME type, which is used for
> > one-click subscribe of the kind voted on by the ipodder-dev list, and
> > which is actual RSS rather than those new itunes pcast files.
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> > All you need to flag for iTunes is a .pcast extension, I think.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: One Click buttons

2005-10-26 Thread Lucas Gonze
On 10/26/05, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I just wondered if the problem was just me ... because if its not just me,
> other folks who have a one-click button on their site may be using a system
> that doesnt work for lots of people.

Apple blew off the one-click spec for RSS w/ enclosures, which is why
the system is so broken.  The todo item is to beat them up, things
will stay busted until then.


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: One Click buttons

2005-10-26 Thread Michael Sullivan
i've been ignoring the so-called one-click subscribe buttons... but i
need to delve into all this voodoo mumbo jumbo eventually.

like david, whenever i have tried, my text editor app opens.
have been to lazy/busy to figure out why (and should I have to?)

so, this shit isnt really one-click?
damn!  ;-)
so, it should be called QuickClick-Sunscribe then
don't lie to me mofo!

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> charm. Maybe we should hit apple up for making this work in the next
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: One Click buttons

2005-10-26 Thread Brad Webb

>  
> Well, this would make sense, however I'm new to the world of 
> iTunes/iPod ... I just got it last night.
>  
> I suppose I might have had iTunes installed earlier and not even 
> really noticed ... it has been bundled with QuickTime for at least a 
> few versions I think ... but I dont think I've ever had anything prior 
> to 6.0 at the earliest.
>  

6.0 just came out with the release of the video-capable iPods, no?

Yes, to get QT7 you would have had to grab iTunes, as well (AFAIK) but 
still, 4.9 was the first Podcast release, and (someone correct me if I'm 
wrong) that supported .pcast on Win and pcast:// on MacOS. So this 
definately wouldn't solve your problem. I also couldn't trace the issue 
to a browser-dependant problem (i.e. doesn't work on either IE or FF)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: One Click buttons

2005-10-26 Thread David Meade




On 10/26/05, Brad Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I wonder if maybe the difference is between fresh installations of>iTunes versus upgrades.  Maybe an upgrade to the version with
>podcasting support didn't properly register the handler, while a>fresh installation would?>>This, I think, is the correct call. We've got the .pcast method down pat< 
http://www.vsocial.com/rss/pcaster.php >, but I couldn't get it to"just work" on my machine (iTunes 6.0). I've been upgrading since 4.0,pre-podcasts, and .pcast is not associated on my machine.

 
Well, this would make sense, however I'm new to the world of iTunes/iPod ... I just got it last night.
 
I suppose I might have had iTunes installed earlier and not even really noticed ... it has been bundled with QuickTime for at least a few versions I think ... but I dont think I've ever had anything prior to 6.0 at the earliest.

 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: One Click buttons

2005-10-26 Thread Brad Webb

>I wonder if maybe the difference is between fresh installations of  
>iTunes versus upgrades.  Maybe an upgrade to the version with  
>podcasting support didn't properly register the handler, while a  
>fresh installation would?
>  
>

This, I think, is the correct call. We've got the .pcast method down pat 
< http://www.vsocial.com/rss/pcaster.php >, but I couldn't get it to 
"just work" on my machine (iTunes 6.0). I've been upgrading since 4.0, 
pre-podcasts, and .pcast is not associated on my machine.

Tried it on another machine with a fresh install of 6.0 -- worked like a 
charm. Maybe we should hit apple up for making this work in the next 
release? Unfortunately this really limits alot of folks, because there 
was a large install base pre-podcasts.

This does make for some annoying "hey, if this doesn't work, try this 
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best way to address the issue, but I for one can't see a better way of 
doing it.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: One Click buttons

2005-10-26 Thread David Meade




On 10/26/05, Susan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Why not make an < a href > link, with text, to your feedburner feed,then explain to the person in a few words how to drag it into itunes
and drop it where it says "podcasts"?  Easy cheesy.< a href = "" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/david-blah">http://feeds.feedburner.com/david-blah" >video podcast feed < /a >
< br > Click and hold on the link above,< br > Drag it into iTunes,< br > and drop it on top of "Podcasts."
hehe yeah I'll probably end up doing something like that.  
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: One Click buttons

2005-10-26 Thread Mike Hudack
Unfortunately I think most people don't read directions (myself  
included).  I wonder if there's something we're not doing right  
here?  Apple's instructions are pretty clear that you can use the  
pcast protocol or a .pcast file.  It sounds to me like these iTunes  
installations have, for one reason or another, not properly  
registered the protocol handler.

I wonder if maybe the difference is between fresh installations of  
iTunes versus upgrades.  Maybe an upgrade to the version with  
podcasting support didn't properly register the handler, while a  
fresh installation would?

On Oct 26, 2005, at 12:05 PM, Susan wrote:

> Why not make an < a href > link, with text, to your feedburner feed,
> then explain to the person in a few words how to drag it into itunes
> and drop it where it says "podcasts"?  Easy cheesy.
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> < a href = "http://feeds.feedburner.com/david-blah"; >
> video podcast feed < /a >
> < br > Click and hold on the link above,
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> < br > and drop it on top of "Podcasts."
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>>> works ok for me on mac and win xp on firefox
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>> Hmm...doesnt work for me. I'm running winxp and firefox too. I
>>
> click it and
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>> it pops up the "open with?" dialog ... itunes is already selected.
>>
> I click
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>> ok and then the contents of that .pcast file just pop up in notepad.
>>  Happens on all three of the winXP machines I've tried.
>>  On 10/26/05, Mike Hudack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>> David, have you tried the one-click buttons on blip? We use the
>>> pcast:// protocol instead of the .pcast file.
>>>
>>>
>>  Yes, I've tried that too, but unfortunately it doesnt work for me
>>
> either.
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>> At home (winXP/firefox) it says something like "pcast is not a
>>
> registered
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: One Click buttons

2005-10-26 Thread David Meade




On 10/26/05, Susan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Here's the itunes link I have on my page:
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=82308530(course the id number is my itunes podcast feed id)
 
 
Yeah the apple.com links work like a charm, but only those people who are listed in the itunes directory will be able to provide such a link.
 
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