Re: [videoblogging] Thinking outside the box...
Good point Sull. Selling picks and shovels to the 49ers!On 1/6/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It is easier to make money by providing video services which may include a videoblog/vodcast setup. So, making video can make you money, but not necessarily having a videoblog.If you are into making video... then offer your videographer services... People need video of events like weddings, seminars, training, local documentaries, local business commercials etc...Some of those can be intermixed with a vlog for the client. Some would allow/want you to post to your own vlog as well -- Ted Tagamitagami.comU N I V E R S U S . N E T SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Thinking outside the box...
See, Michael said it better than me. At 10:25 -0500 6/1/06, Michael Sullivan wrote: >It is easier to make money by providing video services which may >include a videoblog/vodcast setup. >So, making video can make you money, but not necessarily having a videoblog. >If you are into making video... then offer your videographer services... >People need video of events like weddings, seminars, training, local >documentaries, local business commercials etc... > >Some of those can be intermixed with a vlog for the client. Some >would allow/want you to post to your own vlog as well > >your own vlog.. this is where it gets tough. you want to make >money off a specific vodcast channel or however many you might have >going. will not likely happen to any large extent. > >ask yourself- "How much do I want to make?" >enough to not have to work a slave job for someone else? >if so, then you need to make a daily video with great content that >hundreds of thousands of people want to watch daily and do it for >several months before you can decipher whether the following >money-making options are viable: > * ads > * sponsors > * sell merch > * get syndicated on big media channels and/or TiVoesque services. > >yes, that sounds like rboom doesnt it? you need a theme/template to >even begin to think about making money because audience niches >exist because of themes and content genres. > >dontations and pay-per-view will always bring you minimum return. >if you are ok with that, try it. > > >rel=payment's, a technical bloggy spec to make it easier for >bloggers to accept payments from people, has thus far had little to >no adoption and is an example of many knowing that the liklihood of >getting random donations for your content is very low, at least too >low to spend time to set it up... that could always change as this >space evolves and more learn about the spec. > >i have a few fairly unique ideas that i'm organizing in my head... >will share in future. > >sull Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Thinking outside the box...
You know how when you wake up in the morning and as you're opening your eyes you do that long stretch you feel down deep from your shoulders to your calves, and you feel s good. Well, that feeling is the same one I get when making video. Anything else is just more gravy. If there is additional comp then that's cool, but the really good feeling comes from making a piece. Po: When you wake up tomorrow morning and do the stretch decide for yourself if it feels good because of what you made yesterday or because you got paid. Revenue doesn't have to be expressed in dollars, though when it is it's because your audience is collaborating with you remotely, it's a proxy for their in-person applause. Just an opinion from a guy who likes moving images, do what you want with it. BTW, I'm all for figuring out how to get dollars into the hands of vloggers and have a few ideas how to do so, but I don't think it's the dollars that motivate us to create. Am I wrong? -- cheers r Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively http://r.24x7.com http://vlog.registrar.com On Jan 6, 2006, at 1:04 AM, Ron Watson wrote: > It seems to me that we are already stuck in a rut in terms of usage > of this medium. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Thinking outside the box...
It seems to me that we are already stuck in a rut in terms of usage of this medium.How come we must jump right into advertising? I keep seeing ads being mentioned in terms of generating revenue, and it is said in such a way as to lead me to believe that it is the only viable method for generating revenue. Why?Let's do a little excercise here with all of you creative types. There is a concept called Po that I have read about. Po is a creative tool used for lateral thinking, or thinking outside the box. From WIkipedia: A notation used in Lateral thinking, is Po. This stands for Provocative operation and is used to propose an idea which may not necessarily be a solution or a 'good' idea in itself, but moves thinking forward to a new place where new ideas may be produced.So let's try it with this group:Goal: How can videoblogs generate revenue for vloggers?Po: Advertising does not exist.Po: Let's ban advertising on vlogs.I would like to look at this issue without that crutch of the 80 years of broadcast media our understanding is founded on. If so much is different with this medium, then why and the hell are we focused on the same old same old for generating revenue. Why are we letting the old skool media and the corporate media, the institutions we are going to challenge, lock us into their method of generating revenue?Later, RonOn Jan 5, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Ted Tagami wrote: a very timely quote. Thank you Matt! On 1/5/06, LeanBackVids.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This quote is in the January issue of Wired on page 73... "iPod video has been a ding moment across media. It forces advertisers to make commercials compelling enough that people don't throw out their iPods and pick up a book. Sponsors also need to add their commercials to the vlogs I'm watching now. Ad agencies are whining about measurement. Well, wake up, fools! People are watching TV online and on their iPods and you're not there with them." Here is where Wired got that quote... http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/11/06/iads/ -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://leanbackvids.com http://ridertech.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted Tagamitagami.comU N I V E R S U S . N E T SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Begin forwarded message:From: Ted Tagami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: January 5, 2006 3:59:12 PM GMT-05:00 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Wired Quote Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com a very timely quote. Thank you Matt! On 1/5/06, LeanBackVids.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This quote is in the January issue of Wired on page 73... "iPod video has been a ding moment across media. It forces advertisers to make commercials compelling enough that people don't throw out their iPods and pick up a book. Sponsors also need to add their commercials to the vlogs I'm watching now. Ad agencies are whining about measurement. Well, wake up, fools! People are watching TV online and on their iPods and you're not there with them." Here is where Wired got that quote... http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/11/06/iads/ -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://leanbackvids.com http://ridertech.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted Tagamitagami.comU N I V E R S U S . N E T SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Begin forwarded message:From: Ted Tagami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: January 5, 2006 3:59:12 PM GMT-05:00 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Wired Quote Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com a very timely quote. Thank you Matt! On 1/5/06, LeanBackVids.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This quote is in the January issue of Wired on page 73... "iPod video has been a ding moment across media. It forces advertisers to make commercials compelling enough that people don't throw out their iPods and pick up a book. Sponsors also need to add their commercials t
