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There is an interest in the study of pornography here at the University of Michigan, and I would have no problem with purchasing the material for the library collection. Jeff Pearson -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Walt Lessun Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:14 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Community Question I've been trying to get our film prof to include adult film in his cinema courses. No luck so far but I keep trying. Walter Lessun, MSLS, MBA Director Alex D. Chisholm Library Gogebic Community College High Tech and Affordable: Your Superior Educational Choice http://www.gogebic.edu/library Ex ultione gaudium The information contained in this message (including any attachments) may contain privileged and/or confidential information protected from disclosure by the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) and/or the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. Any disclosure of this document is strictly prohibited outside the scope of the service for which you are receiving the information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tribby Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:58 PM To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' Subject: Re: [Videolib] Community Question How the heck did Film #1 miss interviewing Nina Hartley? Mike Tribby Senior Cataloger Quality Books Inc. The Best of America's Independent Presses mailto:mike.tri...@quality-books.com -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Sheldon Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:50 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Community Question Dear All, I have a question for the collective: we have an opportunity to acquire two films, one is a documentary about women and pornography with interviews with many of today's pro sex practitioners, activists and scholars in the field. The second film is a collection of explicit pornographic films produced by women for women, which is being promoted as feminist porn. For reference, one of my interns saw it in a theater in Paris and it comes with a manifesto, which you may read below. I have included descriptions of both as before we acquire I would like to know how many of you would potentially purchase explicit films for your collection. I believe these films are relevant to Women's Studies, LGBT and Film Studies, and are not 'just' pornography, although both qualify based on the content. Would the explicit content preclude you from purchasing? Please let me know your thoughts. Film #1 Unlike the abolitionist feminist movement, the pro-sex feminist movement, which began in the United States during the 1980s, asserts that representations of the body and of pleasure are areas that must be taken over by women and sexual minorities and that pornography must not be subject to control by the patriarchal state. It also calls for the legalization of sex work; female sex workers, porn actresses, strip teasers and lesbians have begun to speak out and to talk about themselves, generating a new culture that includes articles, books, films, documentaries, music, comics, artistic performances, etc. Made up of about 20 interviews filmed in the United States, France and Spain, the documentary gives the floor to pro-sex activists and follows the evolution of the movement from the 80s to the present, from its pioneers and its successors to its proactive activists in France and Barcelona. It also reveals previously unknown images directly tied to the subject (excerpts from films produced by activists, updates on their activities, archives of their works, performances and street demonstrations, etc.) Whether it's referred to as Pro Sex, Post Porn or queer, the movement is a creative and revolutionary one that calls on us to reflect on what a pornographic image is, what sex work is, what gender is, and what the whole point of feminism is. Disturbing, provocative and innovative, the film aims to play a saving role as it splits from popular discourse, which would have it that sex is best practiced in the bedroom, that women's dignity depends on their 'good' behaviour and passivity, that the only feminist themes to be debated are gender violence and the wearing of headscarves. ... allows us to see that activists are already occupying other playing fields, inventing other ways of having sex and of thinking of sexuality and gender. Interviewees: NORMA JEAN ALMODOVAR, MARIA BEATTY, LYNNEE BREEDLOVE, CATHERINE BREILLAT,
Re: [Videolib] Community Question
Thankfully, there's excellent people at Indiana University and even if the collection is dormant for a while, I'm sure they have an eye out for them. One of them even sang me the theme song to Andrew Bergman's SO FINE (a not-so-guilty pleasure) on the corner of 15th and Chestnut in Philly the other day. Best, Dennis On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.comwrote: Somewhat off topic, but my single greatest contribution to film studies was that some years ago I saved the largest collection of 35mm porn prints and got them sent to an academic institution. After over 90 years as a crucial part of the film business, the studios finally pushed the majority of film storage depots (known as exchanges in the silent era) out of business in the mid 90s. Together they held tens of thousands of unclaimed prints. The lawyers handling the bankruptcy sent the regular titles containing a large percentage of independent and foreign films (studios claimed theirs) to Atlanta for auction (fewer than 100 sold and I bought 5), but the porn prints were left in NJ for fear that they would be seized in Atlanta. I think there about 1000-1500 mostly from late 60s to early 90s. I thought they were an important piece of history and got the lawyers to agree to donate them to any archive that could arrange pick up. Most archives were not interested and one that was got cold feet. Then I got the idea to contact the Kinsey Institute in Indiana. They said they would take them, but the shipping was a problem. I got on old friend who was on the board the Playboy Foundation to get them to pay for shipping. Some people get to rescue rare and important silent, independent, historical etc, films but I got the porn stuff. Sadly I hear Kinsey has really not done anything with them and I only hope they still have them. I found out later the PFA would have loved them, but did not know that at the time, sorry Garry. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Pearson, Jeffrey jwpea...@umich.eduwrote: There is an interest in the study of pornography here at the University of Michigan, and I would have no problem with purchasing the material for the library collection. Jeff Pearson -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Walt Lessun Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:14 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Community Question I've been trying to get our film prof to include adult film in his cinema courses. No luck so far but I keep trying. Walter Lessun, MSLS, MBA Director Alex D. Chisholm Library Gogebic Community College High Tech and Affordable: Your Superior Educational Choice http://www.gogebic.edu/library Ex ultione gaudium The information contained in this message (including any attachments) may contain privileged and/or confidential information protected from disclosure by the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) and/or the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. Any disclosure of this document is strictly prohibited outside the scope of the service for which you are receiving the information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tribby Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:58 PM To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' Subject: Re: [Videolib] Community Question How the heck did Film #1 miss interviewing Nina Hartley? Mike Tribby Senior Cataloger Quality Books Inc. The Best of America's Independent Presses mailto:mike.tri...@quality-books.com -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Sheldon Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:50 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Community Question Dear All, I have a question for the collective: we have an opportunity to acquire two films, one is a documentary about women and pornography with interviews with many of today's pro sex practitioners, activists and scholars in the field. The second film is a collection of explicit pornographic films produced by women for women, which is being promoted as feminist porn. For reference, one of my interns saw it in a theater in Paris and it comes with a manifesto, which you may read below. I have included descriptions of both as before we acquire I would like to know how many of you would potentially purchase explicit films for your collection. I believe these films are relevant to Women's Studies, LGBT and Film Studies, and are not 'just' pornography, although both qualify based on the
Re: [Videolib] Community Question
Ah, that explains the dearth of replies from this usually highly opinionated community. I note though that I am not violating the VIDEOLIB mandate: VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. So I hope to hear more opinions. At the moment, I am inclined towards the documentary that places the films in context without showing the explicit material and not releasing the collection of films. I asked myself the following questions yesterday evening: --if the films come with a manifesto, are they still porn due to the explicit nature of the content? --oddly enough, if they are released by a dedicated porn distributor, then any political relevance that the filmmakers were attempting to achieve will be obliterated and they will be sold as porn... by women. Best, Elizabeth Elizabeth Sheldon Vice President Kino Lorber, Inc. 333 W. 39th St., Suite 503 New York, NY 10018 (212) 629-6880 On Nov 10, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Shoaf,Judith P wrote: Gosh, I was trying to figure out why this whole thread got quarrantined by my spam filter (!!!)... Judy VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Community Question
Looks like my spam filter also was working overtime I just saw these replies. Please keep them coming! Best, Elizabeth Elizabeth Sheldon Vice President Kino Lorber, Inc. 333 W. 39th St., Suite 503 New York, NY 10018 (212) 629-6880 On Nov 10, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote: Somewhat off topic, but my single greatest contribution to film studies was that some years ago I saved the largest collection of 35mm porn prints and got them sent to an academic institution. After over 90 years as a crucial part of the film business, the studios finally pushed the majority of film storage depots (known as exchanges in the silent era) out of business in the mid 90s. Together they held tens of thousands of unclaimed prints. The lawyers handling the bankruptcy sent the regular titles containing a large percentage of independent and foreign films (studios claimed theirs) to Atlanta for auction (fewer than 100 sold and I bought 5), but the porn prints were left in NJ for fear that they would be seized in Atlanta. I think there about 1000-1500 mostly from late 60s to early 90s. I thought they were an important piece of history and got the lawyers to agree to donate them to any archive that could arrange pick up. Most archives were not interested and one that was got cold feet. Then I got the idea to contact the Kinsey Institute in Indiana. They said they would take them, but the shipping was a problem. I got on old friend who was on the board the Playboy Foundation to get them to pay for shipping. Some people get to rescue rare and important silent, independent, historical etc, films but I got the porn stuff. Sadly I hear Kinsey has really not done anything with them and I only hope they still have them. I found out later the PFA would have loved them, but did not know that at the time, sorry Garry. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Pearson, Jeffrey jwpea...@umich.edu wrote: There is an interest in the study of pornography here at the University of Michigan, and I would have no problem with purchasing the material for the library collection. Jeff Pearson -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu ] On Behalf Of Walt Lessun Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:14 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Community Question I've been trying to get our film prof to include adult film in his cinema courses. No luck so far but I keep trying. Walter Lessun, MSLS, MBA Director Alex D. Chisholm Library Gogebic Community College High Tech and Affordable: Your Superior Educational Choice http://www.gogebic.edu/library Ex ultione gaudium The information contained in this message (including any attachments) may contain privileged and/or confidential information protected from disclosure by the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) and/or the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. Any disclosure of this document is strictly prohibited outside the scope of the service for which you are receiving the information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu ] On Behalf Of Mike Tribby Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:58 PM To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' Subject: Re: [Videolib] Community Question How the heck did Film #1 miss interviewing Nina Hartley? Mike Tribby Senior Cataloger Quality Books Inc. The Best of America's Independent Presses mailto:mike.tri...@quality-books.com -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu ] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Sheldon Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:50 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Community Question Dear All, I have a question for the collective: we have an opportunity to acquire two films, one is a documentary about women and pornography with interviews with many of today's pro sex practitioners, activists and scholars in the field. The second film is a collection of explicit pornographic films produced by women for women, which is being promoted as feminist porn. For reference, one of my interns saw it in a theater in Paris and it comes with a manifesto, which you may read below. I have included descriptions of both as before we acquire I would like to know how many of you would potentially purchase explicit films for your collection. I believe these films are relevant to Women's Studies, LGBT and Film Studies, and are not 'just' pornography, although both qualify based on the content.
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I like SO FINE, but THE FRESHMAN is one the most underrated films of the last 20 years. Best parody of film studies professor on screen and the end credits are great too. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Dennis Doros milefi...@gmail.com wrote: Thankfully, there's excellent people at Indiana University and even if the collection is dormant for a while, I'm sure they have an eye out for them. One of them even sang me the theme song to Andrew Bergman's SO FINE (a not-so-guilty pleasure) on the corner of 15th and Chestnut in Philly the other day. Best, Dennis On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.comwrote: Somewhat off topic, but my single greatest contribution to film studies was that some years ago I saved the largest collection of 35mm porn prints and got them sent to an academic institution. After over 90 years as a crucial part of the film business, the studios finally pushed the majority of film storage depots (known as exchanges in the silent era) out of business in the mid 90s. Together they held tens of thousands of unclaimed prints. The lawyers handling the bankruptcy sent the regular titles containing a large percentage of independent and foreign films (studios claimed theirs) to Atlanta for auction (fewer than 100 sold and I bought 5), but the porn prints were left in NJ for fear that they would be seized in Atlanta. I think there about 1000-1500 mostly from late 60s to early 90s. I thought they were an important piece of history and got the lawyers to agree to donate them to any archive that could arrange pick up. Most archives were not interested and one that was got cold feet. Then I got the idea to contact the Kinsey Institute in Indiana. They said they would take them, but the shipping was a problem. I got on old friend who was on the board the Playboy Foundation to get them to pay for shipping. Some people get to rescue rare and important silent, independent, historical etc, films but I got the porn stuff. Sadly I hear Kinsey has really not done anything with them and I only hope they still have them. I found out later the PFA would have loved them, but did not know that at the time, sorry Garry. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Pearson, Jeffrey jwpea...@umich.eduwrote: There is an interest in the study of pornography here at the University of Michigan, and I would have no problem with purchasing the material for the library collection. Jeff Pearson -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Walt Lessun Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:14 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Community Question I've been trying to get our film prof to include adult film in his cinema courses. No luck so far but I keep trying. Walter Lessun, MSLS, MBA Director Alex D. Chisholm Library Gogebic Community College High Tech and Affordable: Your Superior Educational Choice http://www.gogebic.edu/library Ex ultione gaudium The information contained in this message (including any attachments) may contain privileged and/or confidential information protected from disclosure by the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) and/or the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. Any disclosure of this document is strictly prohibited outside the scope of the service for which you are receiving the information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tribby Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:58 PM To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' Subject: Re: [Videolib] Community Question How the heck did Film #1 miss interviewing Nina Hartley? Mike Tribby Senior Cataloger Quality Books Inc. The Best of America's Independent Presses mailto:mike.tri...@quality-books.com -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Sheldon Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:50 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Community Question Dear All, I have a question for the collective: we have an opportunity to acquire two films, one is a documentary about women and pornography with interviews with many of today's pro sex practitioners, activists and scholars in the field. The second film is a collection of explicit pornographic films produced by women for women, which is being promoted as feminist porn. For reference, one of my interns saw it in a theater in Paris and it comes with a manifesto, which you may read below. I have included descriptions of both as before we
Re: [Videolib] Community Question
I think what happened is that the p-word, the one that rhymes with the first syllable of morning, got picked up by the filters and the posts are therefore tagged as spam. It's true that sometimes perfectly good discussions get tagged this way. Maybe other members can check their junk or quarantine sites for materials with this subject line. Judy VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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Reminds of when filters were keeping school children from reading about the Mars Explorer. The web address was something like www.marsexplorer.gov but it only picked up the sex in the middle and assumed it was dirty. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Shoaf,Judith P jsh...@ufl.edu wrote: I think what happened is that the p-word, the one that rhymes with the first syllable of morning, got picked up by the filters and the posts are therefore tagged as spam. It's true that sometimes perfectly good discussions get tagged this way. Maybe other members can check their junk or quarantine sites for materials with this subject line. Judy VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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Andrew Bergman. The other Bergman. The Funny Bergman. I agree with you on The Freshman. He also co-wrote BLAZING SADDLES, THE IN-LAWS, FLETCH and SOAPDISH and his book on 1930s comedies is excellent. IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU and HONEYMOON IN VEGAS aren't as wonderful, but they're much funnier than VIRGIN SPRING. Dennis On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.comwrote: I like SO FINE, but THE FRESHMAN is one the most underrated films of the last 20 years. Best parody of film studies professor on screen and the end credits are great too. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Dennis Doros milefi...@gmail.comwrote: Thankfully, there's excellent people at Indiana University and even if the collection is dormant for a while, I'm sure they have an eye out for them. One of them even sang me the theme song to Andrew Bergman's SO FINE (a not-so-guilty pleasure) on the corner of 15th and Chestnut in Philly the other day. Best, Dennis On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: Somewhat off topic, but my single greatest contribution to film studies was that some years ago I saved the largest collection of 35mm porn prints and got them sent to an academic institution. After over 90 years as a crucial part of the film business, the studios finally pushed the majority of film storage depots (known as exchanges in the silent era) out of business in the mid 90s. Together they held tens of thousands of unclaimed prints. The lawyers handling the bankruptcy sent the regular titles containing a large percentage of independent and foreign films (studios claimed theirs) to Atlanta for auction (fewer than 100 sold and I bought 5), but the porn prints were left in NJ for fear that they would be seized in Atlanta. I think there about 1000-1500 mostly from late 60s to early 90s. I thought they were an important piece of history and got the lawyers to agree to donate them to any archive that could arrange pick up. Most archives were not interested and one that was got cold feet. Then I got the idea to contact the Kinsey Institute in Indiana. They said they would take them, but the shipping was a problem. I got on old friend who was on the board the Playboy Foundation to get them to pay for shipping. Some people get to rescue rare and important silent, independent, historical etc, films but I got the porn stuff. Sadly I hear Kinsey has really not done anything with them and I only hope they still have them. I found out later the PFA would have loved them, but did not know that at the time, sorry Garry. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Pearson, Jeffrey jwpea...@umich.eduwrote: There is an interest in the study of pornography here at the University of Michigan, and I would have no problem with purchasing the material for the library collection. Jeff Pearson -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Walt Lessun Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:14 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Community Question I've been trying to get our film prof to include adult film in his cinema courses. No luck so far but I keep trying. Walter Lessun, MSLS, MBA Director Alex D. Chisholm Library Gogebic Community College High Tech and Affordable: Your Superior Educational Choice http://www.gogebic.edu/library Ex ultione gaudium The information contained in this message (including any attachments) may contain privileged and/or confidential information protected from disclosure by the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) and/or the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. Any disclosure of this document is strictly prohibited outside the scope of the service for which you are receiving the information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tribby Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:58 PM To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' Subject: Re: [Videolib] Community Question How the heck did Film #1 miss interviewing Nina Hartley? Mike Tribby Senior Cataloger Quality Books Inc. The Best of America's Independent Presses mailto:mike.tri...@quality-books.com -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Sheldon Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:50 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Community Question Dear All, I have a question for the collective: we have an opportunity to acquire two films, one is a documentary about women and pornography
[Videolib] Library CD sampler project
Hi there, Greetings everyone, my name is Reno, and I am a media librarian at the Port Washington Public Library in NY. This is my first post, so thanks much for letting me participate in your forum. Below is a question about a music sampler CD project that I am working on…..since this list is entitled “Videolib”, I hope that I am not too far off the general subject……if so, you can let me know, no hard feelings. I was wondering if anyone might have some feedback on the following issue: I’d like to create and offer a bi-monthly music sampler CD that would contain ten songs – all by different artists – to expose our patrons to our newly acquired music. I am planning to offer these sampler discs for loan on the honor system here at the Port Library. Currently, I am researching the possible implications of doing so, specifically whether or not any legal issues would arise. Someone I spoke to suspects that one of the major “sticking points” would be the reproduction of a work (song) in its entirety without royalties being addressed. He then suggested a possible compromise – instead of entire songs, I could offer snippets of songs (30 to 60 seconds perhaps). Any idea whether the copyright laws would permit the “snippets”? Any suggestions on what my next steps should be? (i.e., speak with library’s legal counsel…etc.) Many thanks, Reno Bracchi Librarian - Media Department Port Washington Public Library, NY VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Re: Library CD sampler project
Hi Reno and welcome to the list Unfortunately, I don't think your project would have any legal--i.e. fair use--leg to stand on whatsoever, snippit or not... It's one thing to extract a limited number of short clips for use in educational or scholarly contexts; it's another thing altogether to regularly compile and distribute such clips to the public at large. Your project sounds interesting, but I think it would put you and your library on very thin ice. Gary Handman Hi there, Greetings everyone, my name is Reno, and I am a media librarian at the Port Washington Public Library in NY. This is my first post, so thanks much for letting me participate in your forum. Below is a question about a music sampler CD project that I am working on…..since this list is entitled “Videolib”, I hope that I am not too far off the general subject……if so, you can let me know, no hard feelings. I was wondering if anyone might have some feedback on the following issue: I’d like to create and offer a bi-monthly music sampler CD that would contain ten songs – all by different artists – to expose our patrons to our newly acquired music. I am planning to offer these sampler discs for loan on the honor system here at the Port Library. Currently, I am researching the possible implications of doing so, specifically whether or not any legal issues would arise. Someone I spoke to suspects that one of the major “sticking points” would be the reproduction of a work (song) in its entirety without royalties being addressed. He then suggested a possible compromise – instead of entire songs, I could offer snippets of songs (30 to 60 seconds perhaps). Any idea whether the copyright laws would permit the “snippets”? Any suggestions on what my next steps should be? (i.e., speak with library’s legal counsel…etc.) Many thanks, Reno Bracchi Librarian - Media Department Port Washington Public Library, NY VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Re: Library CD sampler project
Just to make this into a discussion (something for a shortened week), would Reno's idea have more of a leg to stand on if it was changed to a recorded review of newly acquired music (or to make this more relevant to this list movies) instead of a sampler? The snippets would still be there but he would have to offer opinions on the media, or information on the media. Just wondering what others thought; or what else might have to be added to the project to make it work within the law. Sometimes it seems we are so wrapped up in findng out if something is within or not within the law, that trying to find out how to make the project work within the law gets lost. regards jhs John H. Streepy Media Services Supervisor Library-Media Circulation James E. Brooks Library Central Washington University 400 East University Way Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548 (509) 963-2861 http://www.lib.cwu.edu/media Hand to hand combat just goes with the territory. All part of being a librarian -- James Turner Rex Libris Transitus profusum est nocens! ghand...@library.berkeley.edu 11/10/2010 12:30 PM Hi Reno and welcome to the list Unfortunately, I don't think your project would have any legal--i.e. fair use--leg to stand on whatsoever, snippit or not... It's one thing to extract a limited number of short clips for use in educational or scholarly contexts; it's another thing altogether to regularly compile and distribute such clips to the public at large. Your project sounds interesting, but I think it would put you and your library on very thin ice. Gary Handman Hi there, Greetings everyone, my name is Reno, and I am a media librarian at the Port Washington Public Library in NY. This is my first post, so thanks much for letting me participate in your forum. Below is a question about a music sampler CD project that I am working on*..since this list is entitled “Videolib”, I hope that I am not too far off the general subject**if so, you can let me know, no hard feelings. I was wondering if anyone might have some feedback on the following issue: I’d like to create and offer a bi-monthly music sampler CD that would contain ten songs * all by different artists * to expose our patrons to our newly acquired music. I am planning to offer these sampler discs for loan on the honor system here at the Port Library. Currently, I am researching the possible implications of doing so, specifically whether or not any legal issues would arise. Someone I spoke to suspects that one of the major sticking points” would be the reproduction of a work (song) in its entirety without royalties being addressed. He then suggested a possible compromise * instead of entire songs, I could offer snippets of songs (30 to 60 seconds perhaps). Any idea whether the copyright laws would permit the “snippets”? Any suggestions on what my next steps should be? (i.e., speak with library’s legal counsel*etc.) Many thanks, Reno Bracchi Librarian - Media Department Port Washington Public Library, NY VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Library CD sampler project
I think that kind of snippet disc would be just fine – you can find tons of podcasts out there doing just that…since the focus seemed to be on marketing the collection, my suggestion was a blog with links from tracks to the catalog record and then a simple link to “listen to this playlist at…” on 8tracks.com (or another playlist generator) or even dual links by track to myspace/amazon previews (call it something like: place this on hold/listen to a sample). It would probably be a less labor intensive way to do something similar, although podcasts can be fun if you have the time/resources! Kathleen DeLaurenti Reference Instruction Librarian Cascadia Community College University of Washington Bothell 18225 Campus Way NE Bothell, WA 98011-8245 425-352-3659 FAX 425-352-3165 kdelaure...@uwb.edu mailto:kwhit...@uwb.edu From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of John Streepy Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:00 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Re: Library CD sampler project Just to make this into a discussion (something for a shortened week), would Reno's idea have more of a leg to stand on if it was changed to a recorded review of newly acquired music (or to make this more relevant to this list movies) instead of a sampler? The snippets would still be there but he would have to offer opinions on the media, or information on the media. Just wondering what others thought; or what else might have to be added to the project to make it work within the law. Sometimes it seems we are so wrapped up in findng out if something is within or not within the law, that trying to find out how to make the project work within the law gets lost. regards jhs John H. Streepy Media Services Supervisor Library-Media Circulation James E. Brooks Library Central Washington University 400 East University Way Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548 (509) 963-2861 http://www.lib.cwu.edu/media Hand to hand combat just goes with the territory. All part of being a librarian -- James Turner Rex Libris Transitus profusum est nocens! ghand...@library.berkeley.edu 11/10/2010 12:30 PM Hi Reno and welcome to the list Unfortunately, I don't think your project would have any legal--i.e. fair use--leg to stand on whatsoever, snippit or not... It's one thing to extract a limited number of short clips for use in educational or scholarly contexts; it's another thing altogether to regularly compile and distribute such clips to the public at large. Your project sounds interesting, but I think it would put you and your library on very thin ice. Gary Handman Hi there, Greetings everyone, my name is Reno, and I am a media librarian at the Port Washington Public Library in NY. This is my first post, so thanks much for letting me participate in your forum. Below is a question about a music sampler CD project that I am working on…..since this list is entitled “Videolib”, I hope that I am not too far off the general subject……if so, you can let me know, no hard feelings. I was wondering if anyone might have some feedback on the following issue: I’d like to create and offer a bi-monthly music sampler CD that would contain ten songs – all by different artists – to expose our patrons to our newly acquired music. I am planning to offer these sampler discs for loan on the honor system here at the Port Library. Currently, I am researching the possible implications of doing so, specifically whether or not any legal issues would arise. Someone I spoke to suspects that one of the major sticking points” would be the reproduction of a work (song) in its entirety without royalties being addressed. He then suggested a possible compromise – instead of entire songs, I could offer snippets of songs (30 to 60 seconds perhaps). Any idea whether the copyright laws would permit the “snippets”? Any suggestions on what my next steps should be? (i.e., speak with library’s legal counsel…etc.) Many thanks, Reno Bracchi Librarian - Media Department Port Washington Public Library, NY VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
