Re: [Videolib] GOOD NIGHT AND GOOD LUCK

[Jeanne Little]

Gary,

As someone who has used this listserv for the place to go for video and
copyright issues, I want to say that you will be sorely missed. I could
always count on you to give a fair and critical perspective to whatever
issues were being discussed. It isn't easy navigating the the world of
media, but you made it much more bearable.

I have a feeling the whole 'vibe' of this listserv may be changing once you
have retired. Hopefully we will all continue to use this wonderful
resource and build on your legacy of great information and lively
discussions.

I wish you happy times, happy tunes, and most of all, much relaxation, and
the opportunity to do exactly what you want to do, when you want to do it!

Good luck in your retirement!

Jeanne Little

-- 
Rod Library - Room 250
Collection Management & Special Services
University of Northern Iowa
Cedar Falls, IA  50613-3675
319-273-7255
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Good Night and Good Luck

[Stockwell, Patricia]

Gary your emails have helped me numerous times and I for one will miss the 
wonderful little puns you are so great at.  Now the Wizard of OZ clip.  
FANTASTIC!!!  It will be hard to say Goodbye to an online friend.  Good 
luck with the retirement.  Enjoy Life - Run Wild - Have Fun.  Pat

Patricia Stockwell
Head of Technical Services / College Archivist
Pikes Peak Community College
5675 S. Academy Blvd.  Box 7
Colorado Springs, CO 80906
719-502-3238

patricia.stockw...@ppcc.edu

"I Like Good Things - But - I Prefer God Things" 



 

 
 







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From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of 
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:50 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Good Night and Good Luck

Damn it, deg, now you're gonna make ME cry!

gary


> Now I know I've got a heart, 'cause it's breaking.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmkG6pnr7-g
>
> :(
>
> -deg
>
>
> 
>
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 08:17:07 -0700
> From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
> Subject: [Videolib] Good Night and Good Luck
>
> Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls
>
> It is with a mix of melancholy, ebullience, slight trepidation, and vast
> relief that I announce my forthcoming retirement from the University of
> California Berkeley and the Media Resources Center on June 28, 2012.
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>


Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

"I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself."
--Francois Truffaut


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Good Night and Good Luck

[Patti Berky]

Gary, 

I don't know you as well as many of the other listserv followers, but I'm sorry 
to see you go. I hope that your future challenges will be wonderful. 

Patti Berky 
___ 

- Original Message -

-- 

Patti Berky 
Audiovisual Acquisitions 
The Pennsylvania State University 
126 Paterno Library 
University Park, PA 16802-1808 
 
Tel: 814-865-1858 
Fax: 814-863-7293 
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
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between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] FW: pricing

[ghandman]

Hi Nahum

If you're going to be selling streaming rights, you're actually selling a
kind of use license.  At very least you'll need to indicate the duration
of the rights (i.e. will these rights remain with the licensee in
perpetuity?  For a limited time?  etc.)  You should also consider
developing a separate license document which states the terms and
conditions of use (e.g. who may have access to this stream?  Institutional
clients only?  General public?  etc.)

Gary Handman


>
>
>
>
> From: nahum laufer [mailto:lauf...@netvision.net.il]
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:11 PM
> To: 'f1b8e9be1c318848bec07a8bd721d6169...@ex2010mailstore.wabash.main'
> Cc: 'albbre...@wabash.edu'
> Subject: pricing
>
>
>
> Susan Thanks for your remarks.
>
> See our web-site www.docsfofeducation.com
>
> You can see we give different price for PPR and library & classroom use,
> as
> a distributer I can't offer a lending only option to Colleges &
> Universities
> for according to the legal info I got a face to face situation screening
> is
> allowed because it will be a legal copy, but possible to public library,
> but
> I still don't have enough info as how to price it and my primer mission is
> getting the filmmaker a good return.
>
> But I have a query for all, as some universities have started to stream
> films is it legal to state  "PPR without streaming rights" & "PPR with
> streaming rights" with $100 extra for streaming rights
>
> Cheers
>
>   Nahum Laufer
>
> Sales
>
> Docs for Education
>
> Erez Laufer Films
>
> Holland st 10
>
> Afulla 18371
>
> Israel
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> And not just publics.  I purchase films for an academic library, and the
> vast majority of our checkouts are for personal home (or dorm or frat...)
> use or for faculty showing a film in a face-to-face teaching situation.
> For
> any public screening, we make sure we've purchased PPR.  So I disagree
> with
> the idea that there's no reason to license for "lending only."  That's
> most
> of what we do!
>
>
>
> Yes, for documentaries, I do often pay a higher price because PPR is
> that's
> all that's offered -- and since it's a fine work, I'm willing to pay it,
> hoping someone WILL come along and use it in a film series or special
> event
> screening... but unfortunately, the vast majority of the ones for which
> I've
> paid PPR never do get screened publicly.  Thus I have been appreciative of
> Kino Lorber's offering 3 options:  home use, institutional, and
> institutional with PPR.  That way, if I suspect something will be likely
> to
> be screened, I can go ahead & pay more for the "with PPR" option; but if I
> doubt it, I can get it for ~$100 less and have it ready for those "lending
> only" situations.  This frees up more budget to buy more films.
>
>
>
> That's a long way of saying I agree with the notion of "institutional
> without PPR" and "institutional with PPR" options, priced appropriately.
> I
> believe it would help your sales.
>
>
>
> Susan Albrecht at Wabash College
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>


Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

"I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself."
--Francois Truffaut


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Good Night and Good Luck

[Oksana Dykyj]

Dear Gary,

It wasn't until early this morning that it hit me 
and then all the analogies began streaming in. 
Your timing for "retirement" does comes at the 
end of an era/beginning of a new one. The main 
analogy is that for people like you and I, who 
grew up during the analog era, the last 15-20 
years have been essentially comparable to the 
first 15-20 years of the advent of moving images. 
I'm equating the birth of film to the birth of 
the internet. The internet arrived, access to 
information was at the tips of one's typing 
fingers and a new system for the distribution of 
all kinds of information was available to 
everyone (more or less). In 1895 after several 
years of experimentation, motion pictures were 
being shown in many parts of the world and 
provided access to worlds beyond anyone's 
imagination. In 1995, we were making decisions 
about whether we liked Mosaic or Netscape better 
as browsers. I liked Mosaic (but then I liked 
betamax over VHS). Roughly 17 years later, around 
1912, motion pictures came into their own and 
serious feature-length films were becoming 
standard fare, attached to film directors whose 
development of film style left a lasting mark. In 
2012, content distribution is taking a serious 
turn to streaming and leaving its mark about how 
we think about owning digital files of images - 
moving or still, and sounds - music or spoken 
content. Content itself is becoming more 
physically intangible. We can personally own 
books, films, music, but they do not reside on 
shelves, rather they reside somewhere Out There 
and we need devices to access them and to pay to 
"store" them. So, you are leaving us at a time 
where we have crossed the threshold to the next phase of technology.

I remember when I first met you in person, as 
opposed to online. It was in Austin in 1995 at 
the Summer Institute at U of T at Austin 
entitled, Video, CD-ROM and Beyond. I remember 
giving a paper about film preservation and making 
some off the cuff remark about video on demand. 
Be careful what you wish for, I guess. Here we 
are with access to more things than we thought 
were even possible 17 years ago.

Now about you and what you have done for us: I 
started my career at a time when correspondence 
meant writing memos and letters. Retrieving one's 
phone messages meant rewinding the audio-cassette 
on the answering machine attached to one's analog 
phone (and prior to that, calling into one's 
answering service and talking to someone who gave 
you your messages). Then modems and clunky e-mail 
and the internet arrived. And then Gary gave us 
videolib and a new way of professional 
communication. In the old days the easiest way to 
find a distributor for a film was to contact 
someone who might know. Information was passed 
along verbally by those who knew or who knew 
someone who would know. Many reference books 
tended to be out of date by the time they were 
published and so after a few years on the job, a 
media librarian finally had the training to get 
the job done in a timely manner based on he or 
she knew. Listservs arrived and continued the 
wonderful personal contact that we all felt 
during a conference where we could discuss topics 
without physical or temporal borders. Listservs 
changed everything and for media librarianship 
Gary's helming of this invaluable professional 
resource is undeniably one of the most important 
developments in the field in the last 15 years. 
Videolib has truly changed the face of the media 
librarian profession. Thank you Gary. Thank you 
for your vision, for your guidance, for your 
patience and persistence, and for your sense of 
humor. You are indeed important to the archeology of media librarianship.

May I suggest that we all compile an essential 
screening list for Gary, so that he could occupy 
his time appropriately later this summer?

My contribution is the final episode of the 
second season of Twilight Zone. The Obsolete Man 
(episode 65) was originally broadcast June 2, 
1961 and starred Burgess Meredith as a librarian, 
who, in a future totalitarian state, is judged 
obsolete and sentenced to death. It's pretty 
powerful, particularly the totalitarian stuff but 
in no way reflects current individuals on this listserv.

Who knows, maybe Gary will helm the next 
iteration of communication, this time between 
retired (obsolete) media professionals.

Oksana
who will have to watch deg's clip when she crosses the border to the U.S.

Concordia University
Montreal, Canada



At 11:17 AM 02/04/2012, you wrote:
>Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls It is with 
>a mix of melancholy, ebullience, slight 
>trepidation, and vast relief that I announce my 
>forthcoming retirement from the University of 
>California Berkeley and the Media Resources 
>Center on June 28, 2012. Today marks my 33rd 
>anniversary with the University, and this year 
>my 36th as a librarian (a fact which seems more 
>than a little surreal to me).  I’ve been 
>direct

Re: [Videolib] Good Night and Good Luck

[ghandman]

Thanks, Oksana.  I'm going to have your wonderful note gilded and framed
(even tho I DO take a bit of affront at being associated with
"archaeology" ;-{)}   ).

Thanks also to all for the really lovely words...best going away present a
guy could possibly ask for.

g.




> Dear Gary,
>
> It wasn't until early this morning that it hit me
> and then all the analogies began streaming in.
> Your timing for "retirement" does comes at the
> end of an era/beginning of a new one. The main
> analogy is that for people like you and I, who
> grew up during the analog era, the last 15-20
> years have been essentially comparable to the
> first 15-20 years of the advent of moving images.
> I'm equating the birth of film to the birth of
> the internet. The internet arrived, access to
> information was at the tips of one's typing
> fingers and a new system for the distribution of
> all kinds of information was available to
> everyone (more or less). In 1895 after several
> years of experimentation, motion pictures were
> being shown in many parts of the world and
> provided access to worlds beyond anyone's
> imagination. In 1995, we were making decisions
> about whether we liked Mosaic or Netscape better
> as browsers. I liked Mosaic (but then I liked
> betamax over VHS). Roughly 17 years later, around
> 1912, motion pictures came into their own and
> serious feature-length films were becoming
> standard fare, attached to film directors whose
> development of film style left a lasting mark. In
> 2012, content distribution is taking a serious
> turn to streaming and leaving its mark about how
> we think about owning digital files of images -
> moving or still, and sounds - music or spoken
> content. Content itself is becoming more
> physically intangible. We can personally own
> books, films, music, but they do not reside on
> shelves, rather they reside somewhere Out There
> and we need devices to access them and to pay to
> "store" them. So, you are leaving us at a time
> where we have crossed the threshold to the next phase of technology.
>
> I remember when I first met you in person, as
> opposed to online. It was in Austin in 1995 at
> the Summer Institute at U of T at Austin
> entitled, Video, CD-ROM and Beyond. I remember
> giving a paper about film preservation and making
> some off the cuff remark about video on demand.
> Be careful what you wish for, I guess. Here we
> are with access to more things than we thought
> were even possible 17 years ago.
>
> Now about you and what you have done for us: I
> started my career at a time when correspondence
> meant writing memos and letters. Retrieving one's
> phone messages meant rewinding the audio-cassette
> on the answering machine attached to one's analog
> phone (and prior to that, calling into one's
> answering service and talking to someone who gave
> you your messages). Then modems and clunky e-mail
> and the internet arrived. And then Gary gave us
> videolib and a new way of professional
> communication. In the old days the easiest way to
> find a distributor for a film was to contact
> someone who might know. Information was passed
> along verbally by those who knew or who knew
> someone who would know. Many reference books
> tended to be out of date by the time they were
> published and so after a few years on the job, a
> media librarian finally had the training to get
> the job done in a timely manner based on he or
> she knew. Listservs arrived and continued the
> wonderful personal contact that we all felt
> during a conference where we could discuss topics
> without physical or temporal borders. Listservs
> changed everything and for media librarianship
> Gary's helming of this invaluable professional
> resource is undeniably one of the most important
> developments in the field in the last 15 years.
> Videolib has truly changed the face of the media
> librarian profession. Thank you Gary. Thank you
> for your vision, for your guidance, for your
> patience and persistence, and for your sense of
> humor. You are indeed important to the archeology of media librarianship.
>
> May I suggest that we all compile an essential
> screening list for Gary, so that he could occupy
> his time appropriately later this summer?
>
> My contribution is the final episode of the
> second season of Twilight Zone. The Obsolete Man
> (episode 65) was originally broadcast June 2,
> 1961 and starred Burgess Meredith as a librarian,
> who, in a future totalitarian state, is judged
> obsolete and sentenced to death. It's pretty
> powerful, particularly the totalitarian stuff but
> in no way reflects current individuals on this listserv.
>
> Who knows, maybe Gary will helm the next
> iteration of communication, this time between
> retired (obsolete) media professionals.
>
> Oksana
> who will have to watch deg's clip when she crosses the border to the U.S.
>
> Concordia University
> Montreal, Canada
>
>
>
> At 11:17 AM 02/04/2012, you wrote:
>>Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls It 

Re: [Videolib] Good Night and Good Luck

[Tatar, Becky]

Gary, I've done the same thing with something you sent - I had reported my 
experience in getting PPR for some Twilight Zone episodes, and you sent out .. 
" I present for your..."  little quote adaptation from the Twilight Zone.  It's 
not framed, but I printed it out, laminated it, and it hangs on my bulletin 
board next to my desk.  It makes me smile every time I look at it.!

Becky Tatar
Periodicals/Audiovisuals
Aurora Public Library
1 E. Benton Street
Aurora, IL   60505
Phone: 630-264-4100
FAX: 630-896-3209
blt...@aurora.lib.il.us
www.aurorapubliclibrary.org

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From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of 
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:46 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Good Night and Good Luck

Thanks, Oksana.  I'm going to have your wonderful note gilded and framed
(even tho I DO take a bit of affront at being associated with
"archaeology" ;-{)}   ).

Thanks also to all for the really lovely words...best going away present a
guy could possibly ask for.

g.




> Dear Gary,
>
> It wasn't until early this morning that it hit me
> and then all the analogies began streaming in.
> Your timing for "retirement" does comes at the
> end of an era/beginning of a new one. The main
> analogy is that for people like you and I, who
> grew up during the analog era, the last 15-20
> years have been essentially comparable to the
> first 15-20 years of the advent of moving images.
> I'm equating the birth of film to the birth of
> the internet. The internet arrived, access to
> information was at the tips of one's typing
> fingers and a new system for the distribution of
> all kinds of information was available to
> everyone (more or less). In 1895 after several
> years of experimentation, motion pictures were
> being shown in many parts of the world and
> provided access to worlds beyond anyone's
> imagination. In 1995, we were making decisions
> about whether we liked Mosaic or Netscape better
> as browsers. I liked Mosaic (but then I liked
> betamax over VHS). Roughly 17 years later, around
> 1912, motion pictures came into their own and
> serious feature-length films were becoming
> standard fare, attached to film directors whose
> development of film style left a lasting mark. In
> 2012, content distribution is taking a serious
> turn to streaming and leaving its mark about how
> we think about owning digital files of images -
> moving or still, and sounds - music or spoken
> content. Content itself is becoming more
> physically intangible. We can personally own
> books, films, music, but they do not reside on
> shelves, rather they reside somewhere Out There
> and we need devices to access them and to pay to
> "store" them. So, you are leaving us at a time
> where we have crossed the threshold to the next phase of technology.
>
> I remember when I first met you in person, as
> opposed to online. It was in Austin in 1995 at
> the Summer Institute at U of T at Austin
> entitled, Video, CD-ROM and Beyond. I remember
> giving a paper about film preservation and making
> some off the cuff remark about video on demand.
> Be careful what you wish for, I guess. Here we
> are with access to more things than we thought
> were even possible 17 years ago.
>
> Now about you and what you have done for us: I
> started my career at a time when correspondence
> meant writing memos and letters. Retrieving one's
> phone messages meant rewinding the audio-cassette
> on the answering machine attached to one's analog
> phone (and prior to that, calling into one's
> answering service and talking to someone who gave
> you your messages). Then modems and clunky e-mail
> and the internet arrived. And then Gary gave us
> videolib and a new way of professional
> communication. In the old days the easiest way to
> find a distributor for a film was to contact
> someone who might know. Information was passed
> along verbally by those who knew or who knew
> someone who would know. Many reference books
> tended to be out of date by the time they were
> published and so after a few years on the job, a
> media librarian finally had the training to get
> the job done in a timely manner based on he or
> she knew. Listservs arrived and continued the
> wonderful personal contact that we all felt
> during a conference where we could discuss topics
> without physical or temporal borders. Listservs
> changed everything and for media librarianship
> Gary's helming of this invaluable professional
> resource is undeniably one of the most important
> developments in the field in the last 15 years.
> Videolib has truly changed the face of the media
> librarian profession. Thank you Gary. Thank you
> for your vision, for your guidance, for your
> patience and persistence, and for your sense of
> humor. You are indeed important to the archeology of media librarianship.
>
> May I suggest that we all compile an essential
>

Re: [Videolib] Good Night and Good Luck

[Mandel, Debra]

On the heels of all these wonderful tributes, here's another.

Gary, I have had a respectful professional crush on you these many years.
As another old timer, I can admit that I've stuck it out this long knowing
you were out there, keeping us well-humored, informed and centered.
Continuing in these tranches without you will be a lonlier experience.
What will sustain me is the passion you have given to our profession and
your commitment to doing the right thing.

Debra Mandel


On 4/3/12 12:38 PM, "Oksana Dykyj"  wrote:

>Dear Gary,
>
>It wasn't until early this morning that it hit me
>and then all the analogies began streaming in.
>Your timing for "retirement" does comes at the
>end of an era/beginning of a new one. The main
>analogy is that for people like you and I, who
>grew up during the analog era, the last 15-20
>years have been essentially comparable to the
>first 15-20 years of the advent of moving images.
>I'm equating the birth of film to the birth of
>the internet. The internet arrived, access to
>information was at the tips of one's typing
>fingers and a new system for the distribution of
>all kinds of information was available to
>everyone (more or less). In 1895 after several
>years of experimentation, motion pictures were
>being shown in many parts of the world and
>provided access to worlds beyond anyone's
>imagination. In 1995, we were making decisions
>about whether we liked Mosaic or Netscape better
>as browsers. I liked Mosaic (but then I liked
>betamax over VHS). Roughly 17 years later, around
>1912, motion pictures came into their own and
>serious feature-length films were becoming
>standard fare, attached to film directors whose
>development of film style left a lasting mark. In
>2012, content distribution is taking a serious
>turn to streaming and leaving its mark about how
>we think about owning digital files of images -
>moving or still, and sounds - music or spoken
>content. Content itself is becoming more
>physically intangible. We can personally own
>books, films, music, but they do not reside on
>shelves, rather they reside somewhere Out There
>and we need devices to access them and to pay to
>"store" them. So, you are leaving us at a time
>where we have crossed the threshold to the next phase of technology.
>
>I remember when I first met you in person, as
>opposed to online. It was in Austin in 1995 at
>the Summer Institute at U of T at Austin
>entitled, Video, CD-ROM and Beyond. I remember
>giving a paper about film preservation and making
>some off the cuff remark about video on demand.
>Be careful what you wish for, I guess. Here we
>are with access to more things than we thought
>were even possible 17 years ago.
>
>Now about you and what you have done for us: I
>started my career at a time when correspondence
>meant writing memos and letters. Retrieving one's
>phone messages meant rewinding the audio-cassette
>on the answering machine attached to one's analog
>phone (and prior to that, calling into one's
>answering service and talking to someone who gave
>you your messages). Then modems and clunky e-mail
>and the internet arrived. And then Gary gave us
>videolib and a new way of professional
>communication. In the old days the easiest way to
>find a distributor for a film was to contact
>someone who might know. Information was passed
>along verbally by those who knew or who knew
>someone who would know. Many reference books
>tended to be out of date by the time they were
>published and so after a few years on the job, a
>media librarian finally had the training to get
>the job done in a timely manner based on he or
>she knew. Listservs arrived and continued the
>wonderful personal contact that we all felt
>during a conference where we could discuss topics
>without physical or temporal borders. Listservs
>changed everything and for media librarianship
>Gary's helming of this invaluable professional
>resource is undeniably one of the most important
>developments in the field in the last 15 years.
>Videolib has truly changed the face of the media
>librarian profession. Thank you Gary. Thank you
>for your vision, for your guidance, for your
>patience and persistence, and for your sense of
>humor. You are indeed important to the archeology of media librarianship.
>
>May I suggest that we all compile an essential
>screening list for Gary, so that he could occupy
>his time appropriately later this summer?
>
>My contribution is the final episode of the
>second season of Twilight Zone. The Obsolete Man
>(episode 65) was originally broadcast June 2,
>1961 and starred Burgess Meredith as a librarian,
>who, in a future totalitarian state, is judged
>obsolete and sentenced to death. It's pretty
>powerful, particularly the totalitarian stuff but
>in no way reflects current individuals on this listserv.
>
>Who knows, maybe Gary will helm the next
>iteration of communication, this time between
>retired (obsolete) media professionals.
>
>Oksana
>who will have to watch deg's clip when sh

Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 53, Issue 15

[nahum laufer]

Dear Gary
I just arrived at your Video lib this week, and you won't be around.
Thanks for all your help
My advice as one pensioner to another, don't sit around doing nothing find
something interesting something differant, I myself was an expert on drip
irrigation joined my son to make and distribute films.
Nahum Laufer
>
> At 11:17 AM 02/04/2012, you wrote:
>>Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls It is with a mix of melancholy, 
>>ebullience, slight trepidation, and vast relief that I announce my 
>>forthcoming retirement from the University of California Berkeley and 
>>the Media Resources Center on June 28, 2012. Today marks my 33rd 
>>anniversary with the University, and this year my 36th as a librarian 
>>(a fact which seems more than a little surreal to me).  I???ve been 
>>director of the Media Center for about 28 of those years, and there 
>>hasn???t been week, good or bad, that has gone by without my murmuring 
>>a little thanks for the cosmic hiccups that allowed me to stumble into 
>>such a cool and
>>personally rewarding gig.   I simply cannot
>>think of anywhere that I would have been happier professionally, or 
>>another position in which I would have grown and learned and 
>>contributed as much. In some sense, I feel a bit like Mark Twain, who 
>>was born during the fiery appearance of Halley???s Comet, and who went 
>>out with its reappearance, 74 years later.  I began my career in media 
>>in the early 80s, at the dawn of the home video age (or the ???Video 
>>Revolution??? as it was often hyperbolically called in the library 
>>literature at the time).  I???m bowing out of the business at a time 
>>when the technologies and economics of video production and 
>>distribution, and the video content universe itself are again in a 
>>state of radical flux.  Along with these changes, video collections 
>>and service in libraries are also bound to experience major tremors 
>>and evolutionary shifts.  I???m not sure whether I???m leaving the 
>>scene feeling sanguine or pessimistic about this future, but in any 
>>case it???s definitely going to be an interesting and challenging next 
>>decade. I am going to miss all my long-time professional pals 
>>profoundly, both those on the library side and the distributor side of 
>>the fence.  I grew up with a number of you in this field, and along 
>>the way you???ve become a kind of extended workaday family, complete 
>>with the obstreperous get-togethers, occasional bickering, and 
>>comforting sympathy.  I???m also heartened by the number of young, 
>>creative, and energetic colleagues who have hopped on board in more 
>>recent times.  Definitely makes me less gloomy about prospects for the 
>>future. Not sure exactly what I???m going to do next:  I???d like to 
>>continue teaching film somewhere on campus or off; I???m up for grabs 
>>as a consultant; want to write a bit; gotta catch up on all the 
>>national cinemas I???ve given short-shrift to over the years; want to 
>>log in more gym time; would like to hone my banjo and ukulele-playing 
>>chops; want to get back to freelance cartooning and illustration.  At 
>>very least, I???m aiming at becoming an accomplished and well-known 
>>Berkeley fl??neur and caf?? personality. As for the fate of the UC 
>>Berkeley Media Resources Center?  In light of the dire econommic 
>>straits into which UC has been shoved, it is almost completely 
>>unlikely that my position will be filled any time soon.  The future of 
>>the redoubtable MRC collection and website remains murky, at best.  I 
>>can???t really think about all of this too much; it???s just too damn 
>>depressing to ponder, and I???ve got other things on my mind.
>>In other words, apr??s moi, le deluge, and there???s not a damn thing 
>>I can do about it.
>>For the time being, Gisele Tanasse (MLIS), crack MRC Operations 
>>Czarina, will look after the shop.  She has also graciously agreed to 
>>keep an administrative eye on videolib and videonews.  (Note, however, 
>>that she???s going out on maternity leave from May until around the 
>>end of September, so you???re pretty much on your own during that 
>>hiatus.  Play nice!).  Gisele???s email is 
>>gtana...@library.berkeley.edu.  I???ll be around and wrapping things 
>>up for the next few months.  My civilian email address after June is 
>>going to be garyhand...@gmail.com and I???m also on Facebook. I???d 
>>love to stay in touch (but please don???t contact me about anything 
>>having to do with copyright or fair use). Best of luck for the future, 
>>comrades!  Continue fighting the good fight. It really has been an 
>>honor and a delight working with you all. Salud! Gary Handman Gary 
>>Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 
>>510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu 
>>http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC "I have always preferred the 
>>reflection of life to life itself." --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is 
>>intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
>>r

[Videolib] Lifetime Streaming Rights

[Bob Norris]

I hate to bring up a copyright issue again but...

There was recently a discussion if it is acceptable for a distributor to grant 
Lifetime streaming rights. There was a faction that argued it is acceptable as 
long as you limit the rights to a single digital format and do not allow the 
buyer to transcode the file to a new format. They could use the original file 
as long as it plays on their streaming service just like they could use a DVD 
as long as it works. The analogy was made to a download in the consumer market 
not having a time restriction.

I was recently discussing this with an institution that wants to stream in 
perpetuity in any format. I said Apple does not permit that and she asked if 
that was through a technical limitation/DRM or the Terms and Conditions 
agreement. I had to admit I did not know. So I reviewed the terms 
(http://www.apple.com/legal/itunes/us/terms.html#SERVICE) and can see no 
restriction about copying files to a new format. They only limit playback to 5 
iTunes approved devices and do not allow iTunes video to be burned, which I 
think means to disc. Then I transcoded a m4a file to an ACC file and played it 
back no problem. So it looks like Apple is selling the right to play back in 
any digital format in perpetuity. 

Am I missing something?
Bob

Robert A. Norris
Managing Director
Film Ideas, Inc.
Phone:  (847) 419-0255
Email:  b...@filmideas.com
Web:www.filmideas.com

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 53, Issue 15

[Jonathan Miller]

Exactly - Gary is going in to drip irrigation!
 JM 



-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of nahum laufer
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:09 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 53, Issue 15

Dear Gary
I just arrived at your Video lib this week, and you won't be around.
Thanks for all your help
My advice as one pensioner to another, don't sit around doing nothing find
something interesting something differant, I myself was an expert on drip
irrigation joined my son to make and distribute films.
Nahum Laufer
>
> At 11:17 AM 02/04/2012, you wrote:
>>Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls It is with a mix of melancholy, 
>>ebullience, slight trepidation, and vast relief that I announce my 
>>forthcoming retirement from the University of California Berkeley and 
>>the Media Resources Center on June 28, 2012. Today marks my 33rd 
>>anniversary with the University, and this year my 36th as a librarian 
>>(a fact which seems more than a little surreal to me).  I???ve been 
>>director of the Media Center for about 28 of those years, and there 
>>hasn???t been week, good or bad, that has gone by without my murmuring 
>>a little thanks for the cosmic hiccups that allowed me to stumble into 
>>such a cool and
>>personally rewarding gig.   I simply cannot
>>think of anywhere that I would have been happier professionally, or 
>>another position in which I would have grown and learned and 
>>contributed as much. In some sense, I feel a bit like Mark Twain, who 
>>was born during the fiery appearance of Halley???s Comet, and who went 
>>out with its reappearance, 74 years later.  I began my career in media 
>>in the early 80s, at the dawn of the home video age (or the ???Video 
>>Revolution??? as it was often hyperbolically called in the library 
>>literature at the time).  I???m bowing out of the business at a time 
>>when the technologies and economics of video production and 
>>distribution, and the video content universe itself are again in a 
>>state of radical flux.  Along with these changes, video collections 
>>and service in libraries are also bound to experience major tremors 
>>and evolutionary shifts.  I???m not sure whether I???m leaving the 
>>scene feeling sanguine or pessimistic about this future, but in any 
>>case it???s definitely going to be an interesting and challenging next 
>>decade. I am going to miss all my long-time professional pals 
>>profoundly, both those on the library side and the distributor side of 
>>the fence.  I grew up with a number of you in this field, and along 
>>the way you???ve become a kind of extended workaday family, complete 
>>with the obstreperous get-togethers, occasional bickering, and 
>>comforting sympathy.  I???m also heartened by the number of young, 
>>creative, and energetic colleagues who have hopped on board in more 
>>recent times.  Definitely makes me less gloomy about prospects for the 
>>future. Not sure exactly what I???m going to do next:  I???d like to 
>>continue teaching film somewhere on campus or off; I???m up for grabs 
>>as a consultant; want to write a bit; gotta catch up on all the 
>>national cinemas I???ve given short-shrift to over the years; want to 
>>log in more gym time; would like to hone my banjo and ukulele-playing 
>>chops; want to get back to freelance cartooning and illustration.  At 
>>very least, I???m aiming at becoming an accomplished and well-known 
>>Berkeley fl??neur and caf?? personality. As for the fate of the UC 
>>Berkeley Media Resources Center?  In light of the dire econommic 
>>straits into which UC has been shoved, it is almost completely 
>>unlikely that my position will be filled any time soon.  The future of 
>>the redoubtable MRC collection and website remains murky, at best.  I 
>>can???t really think about all of this too much; it???s just too damn 
>>depressing to ponder, and I???ve got other things on my mind.
>>In other words, apr??s moi, le deluge, and there???s not a damn thing 
>>I can do about it.
>>For the time being, Gisele Tanasse (MLIS), crack MRC Operations 
>>Czarina, will look after the shop.  She has also graciously agreed to 
>>keep an administrative eye on videolib and videonews.  (Note, however, 
>>that she???s going out on maternity leave from May until around the 
>>end of September, so you???re pretty much on your own during that 
>>hiatus.  Play nice!).  Gisele???s email is 
>>gtana...@library.berkeley.edu.  I???ll be around and wrapping things 
>>up for the next few months.  My civilian email address after June is 
>>going to be garyhand...@gmail.com and I???m also on Facebook. I???d 
>>love to stay in touch (but please don???t contact me about anything 
>>having to do with copyright or fair use). Best of luck for the future, 
>>comrades!  Continue fighting the good fight. It really has been an 
>>honor and a delight working with you all. Salud! Gary Handman Gary

Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 53, Issue 15

[ghandman]

;-{)} That's me...Mr. Drip

g



> Exactly - Gary is going in to drip irrigation!
>  JM
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of nahum laufer
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:09 PM
> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> Subject: Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 53, Issue 15
>
> Dear Gary
> I just arrived at your Video lib this week, and you won't be around.
> Thanks for all your help
> My advice as one pensioner to another, don't sit around doing nothing find
> something interesting something differant, I myself was an expert on drip
> irrigation joined my son to make and distribute films.
> Nahum Laufer
>>
>> At 11:17 AM 02/04/2012, you wrote:
>>>Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls It is with a mix of melancholy,
>>>ebullience, slight trepidation, and vast relief that I announce my
>>>forthcoming retirement from the University of California Berkeley and
>>>the Media Resources Center on June 28, 2012. Today marks my 33rd
>>>anniversary with the University, and this year my 36th as a librarian
>>>(a fact which seems more than a little surreal to me).  I???ve been
>>>director of the Media Center for about 28 of those years, and there
>>>hasn???t been week, good or bad, that has gone by without my murmuring
>>>a little thanks for the cosmic hiccups that allowed me to stumble into
>>>such a cool and
>>>personally rewarding gig.   I simply cannot
>>>think of anywhere that I would have been happier professionally, or
>>>another position in which I would have grown and learned and
>>>contributed as much. In some sense, I feel a bit like Mark Twain, who
>>>was born during the fiery appearance of Halley???s Comet, and who went
>>>out with its reappearance, 74 years later.  I began my career in media
>>>in the early 80s, at the dawn of the home video age (or the ???Video
>>>Revolution??? as it was often hyperbolically called in the library
>>>literature at the time).  I???m bowing out of the business at a time
>>>when the technologies and economics of video production and
>>>distribution, and the video content universe itself are again in a
>>>state of radical flux.  Along with these changes, video collections
>>>and service in libraries are also bound to experience major tremors
>>>and evolutionary shifts.  I???m not sure whether I???m leaving the
>>>scene feeling sanguine or pessimistic about this future, but in any
>>>case it???s definitely going to be an interesting and challenging next
>>>decade. I am going to miss all my long-time professional pals
>>>profoundly, both those on the library side and the distributor side of
>>>the fence.  I grew up with a number of you in this field, and along
>>>the way you???ve become a kind of extended workaday family, complete
>>>with the obstreperous get-togethers, occasional bickering, and
>>>comforting sympathy.  I???m also heartened by the number of young,
>>>creative, and energetic colleagues who have hopped on board in more
>>>recent times.  Definitely makes me less gloomy about prospects for the
>>>future. Not sure exactly what I???m going to do next:  I???d like to
>>>continue teaching film somewhere on campus or off; I???m up for grabs
>>>as a consultant; want to write a bit; gotta catch up on all the
>>>national cinemas I???ve given short-shrift to over the years; want to
>>>log in more gym time; would like to hone my banjo and ukulele-playing
>>>chops; want to get back to freelance cartooning and illustration.  At
>>>very least, I???m aiming at becoming an accomplished and well-known
>>>Berkeley fl??neur and caf?? personality. As for the fate of the UC
>>>Berkeley Media Resources Center?  In light of the dire econommic
>>>straits into which UC has been shoved, it is almost completely
>>>unlikely that my position will be filled any time soon.  The future of
>>>the redoubtable MRC collection and website remains murky, at best.  I
>>>can???t really think about all of this too much; it???s just too damn
>>>depressing to ponder, and I???ve got other things on my mind.
>>>In other words, apr??s moi, le deluge, and there???s not a damn thing
>>>I can do about it.
>>>For the time being, Gisele Tanasse (MLIS), crack MRC Operations
>>>Czarina, will look after the shop.  She has also graciously agreed to
>>>keep an administrative eye on videolib and videonews.  (Note, however,
>>>that she???s going out on maternity leave from May until around the
>>>end of September, so you???re pretty much on your own during that
>>>hiatus.  Play nice!).  Gisele???s email is
>>>gtana...@library.berkeley.edu.  I???ll be around and wrapping things
>>>up for the next few months.  My civilian email address after June is
>>>going to be garyhand...@gmail.com and I???m also on Facebook. I???d
>>>love to stay in touch (but please don???t contact me about anything
>>>having to do with copyright or fair use). Best of luck for the future,
>>>comrades!  Continue fighting the good fight. It really has been

Re: [Videolib] Good Night and Good Luck

[Dennis Doros]

Wow, Oksana, that was wonderful. Does that make you Constance Talmadge and
Gary, John Gilbert?

Dennis

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Oksana Dykyj wrote:

> Dear Gary,
>
> It wasn't until early this morning that it hit me
> and then all the analogies began streaming in.
> Your timing for "retirement" does comes at the
> end of an era/beginning of a new one. The main
> analogy is that for people like you and I, who
> grew up during the analog era, the last 15-20
> years have been essentially comparable to the
> first 15-20 years of the advent of moving images.
> I'm equating the birth of film to the birth of
> the internet. The internet arrived, access to
> information was at the tips of one's typing
> fingers and a new system for the distribution of
> all kinds of information was available to
> everyone (more or less). In 1895 after several
> years of experimentation, motion pictures were
> being shown in many parts of the world and
> provided access to worlds beyond anyone's
> imagination. In 1995, we were making decisions
> about whether we liked Mosaic or Netscape better
> as browsers. I liked Mosaic (but then I liked
> betamax over VHS). Roughly 17 years later, around
> 1912, motion pictures came into their own and
> serious feature-length films were becoming
> standard fare, attached to film directors whose
> development of film style left a lasting mark. In
> 2012, content distribution is taking a serious
> turn to streaming and leaving its mark about how
> we think about owning digital files of images -
> moving or still, and sounds - music or spoken
> content. Content itself is becoming more
> physically intangible. We can personally own
> books, films, music, but they do not reside on
> shelves, rather they reside somewhere Out There
> and we need devices to access them and to pay to
> "store" them. So, you are leaving us at a time
> where we have crossed the threshold to the next phase of technology.
>
> I remember when I first met you in person, as
> opposed to online. It was in Austin in 1995 at
> the Summer Institute at U of T at Austin
> entitled, Video, CD-ROM and Beyond. I remember
> giving a paper about film preservation and making
> some off the cuff remark about video on demand.
> Be careful what you wish for, I guess. Here we
> are with access to more things than we thought
> were even possible 17 years ago.
>
> Now about you and what you have done for us: I
> started my career at a time when correspondence
> meant writing memos and letters. Retrieving one's
> phone messages meant rewinding the audio-cassette
> on the answering machine attached to one's analog
> phone (and prior to that, calling into one's
> answering service and talking to someone who gave
> you your messages). Then modems and clunky e-mail
> and the internet arrived. And then Gary gave us
> videolib and a new way of professional
> communication. In the old days the easiest way to
> find a distributor for a film was to contact
> someone who might know. Information was passed
> along verbally by those who knew or who knew
> someone who would know. Many reference books
> tended to be out of date by the time they were
> published and so after a few years on the job, a
> media librarian finally had the training to get
> the job done in a timely manner based on he or
> she knew. Listservs arrived and continued the
> wonderful personal contact that we all felt
> during a conference where we could discuss topics
> without physical or temporal borders. Listservs
> changed everything and for media librarianship
> Gary's helming of this invaluable professional
> resource is undeniably one of the most important
> developments in the field in the last 15 years.
> Videolib has truly changed the face of the media
> librarian profession. Thank you Gary. Thank you
> for your vision, for your guidance, for your
> patience and persistence, and for your sense of
> humor. You are indeed important to the archeology of media librarianship.
>
> May I suggest that we all compile an essential
> screening list for Gary, so that he could occupy
> his time appropriately later this summer?
>
> My contribution is the final episode of the
> second season of Twilight Zone. The Obsolete Man
> (episode 65) was originally broadcast June 2,
> 1961 and starred Burgess Meredith as a librarian,
> who, in a future totalitarian state, is judged
> obsolete and sentenced to death. It's pretty
> powerful, particularly the totalitarian stuff but
> in no way reflects current individuals on this listserv.
>
> Who knows, maybe Gary will helm the next
> iteration of communication, this time between
> retired (obsolete) media professionals.
>
> Oksana
> who will have to watch deg's clip when she crosses the border to the U.S.
>
> Concordia University
> Montreal, Canada
>
>
>
> At 11:17 AM 02/04/2012, you wrote:
> >Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls It is with
> >a mix of melancholy, ebullience, slight
> >trepidation, and vast relief that I announce my
> >forthcom

Re: [Videolib] Good Night and Good Luck

[scott spicer]

Gary,

I think Newton's quote, "If I have seen further it is by standing on ye
sholders of Giants" fits this occasion best.  As a relative newcomer to the
profession, I owe you a great debt of gratitude for contributing
significantly to the development and sustainibility of our institutions
(VRT, NMM, VideoLib, MRC Site, to name a few) and at the professional
level, for helping to instill in me a respect for the craftsmanship of
media bibliography, and the criticality of media preservation, media
copyright, media advocacy, and "damnit, you gotta just get the instructor
what they need."  Finally, thank you most of all for helping me to
understand that the voices of oracles able to swiftly provide responses to
"I need exemplar titles with tracking shots of Paris, suggestions?" will
fall silent without advocacy for media.  Business models and copyright
debates considered, I am entirely optimistic that we are entering a rich
era where our users will increasingly engage with media in a number of
ways, some very different and most very exciting.  Hopefully, building off
some of the foundations you (and other modern founders) have helped lay we
can continue to lead in this transition through familiar and emerging roles.

Mazel Tov,

Scott


-- 
Scott Spicer
Media Outreach and Learning Spaces Librarian
University of Minnesota Libraries - Twin Cities
341 Walter Library
spic0...@umn.edu612.626.0629
Media Services: lib.umn.edu/media
SMART Learning Commons: smart.umn.edu
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

[Videolib] I knew we should have done that Storycorps interview

[Maureen Tripp]

Gary, you are my hero.  If you're not doing this anymore, I kind of don't want 
to, either.
On the other hand, I do need to stay employed.
But it will not be as much fun.  And it will be way harder without your 
guidance and inspiration.

Maureen Tripp
Media Librarian
Iwasaki Library
120 Boylston Street
Boston, MA 02116
maureen_tr...@emerson.edu
(617)824-8407



VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Good Night and Good Luck

[Oksana Dykyj]

Dennis, (you crack me up as always)

John Gilbert had a good voice.  He sounded like 
Edmund Lowe. Bad luck and certain people with 
grudges made sure his career ended, then again he 
helped by drinking a tad too much. Gary  (who has 
much better hair than Gilbert) is retiring of his 
own volition after many years of service but I 
expect  the zaniness  (and proximity to Napa) is 
yet to come. As for Connie, I'm flattered you 
compare me to her rather than the much less talented Natalie.


O.


At 03:15 PM 03/04/2012, you wrote:
Wow, Oksana, that was wonderful. Does that make 
you Constance Talmadge and Gary, John Gilbert?


Dennis

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Oksana Dykyj 
<oks...@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:

Dear Gary,

It wasn't until early this morning that it hit me
and then all the analogies began streaming in.
Your timing for "retirement" does comes at the
end of an era/beginning of a new one. The main
analogy is that for people like you and I, who
grew up during the analog era, the last 15-20
years have been essentially comparable to the
first 15-20 years of the advent of moving images.
I'm equating the birth of film to the birth of
the internet. The internet arrived, access to
information was at the tips of one's typing
fingers and a new system for the distribution of
all kinds of information was available to
everyone (more or less). In 1895 after several
years of experimentation, motion pictures were
being shown in many parts of the world and
provided access to worlds beyond anyone's
imagination. In 1995, we were making decisions
about whether we liked Mosaic or Netscape better
as browsers. I liked Mosaic (but then I liked
betamax over VHS). Roughly 17 years later, around
1912, motion pictures came into their own and
serious feature-length films were becoming
standard fare, attached to film directors whose
development of film style left a lasting mark. In
2012, content distribution is taking a serious
turn to streaming and leaving its mark about how
we think about owning digital files of images -
moving or still, and sounds - music or spoken
content. Content itself is becoming more
physically intangible. We can personally own
books, films, music, but they do not reside on
shelves, rather they reside somewhere Out There
and we need devices to access them and to pay to
"store" them. So, you are leaving us at a time
where we have crossed the threshold to the next phase of technology.

I remember when I first met you in person, as
opposed to online. It was in Austin in 1995 at
the Summer Institute at U of T at Austin
entitled, Video, CD-ROM and Beyond. I remember
giving a paper about film preservation and making
some off the cuff remark about video on demand.
Be careful what you wish for, I guess. Here we
are with access to more things than we thought
were even possible 17 years ago.

Now about you and what you have done for us: I
started my career at a time when correspondence
meant writing memos and letters. Retrieving one's
phone messages meant rewinding the audio-cassette
on the answering machine attached to one's analog
phone (and prior to that, calling into one's
answering service and talking to someone who gave
you your messages). Then modems and clunky e-mail
and the internet arrived. And then Gary gave us
videolib and a new way of professional
communication. In the old days the easiest way to
find a distributor for a film was to contact
someone who might know. Information was passed
along verbally by those who knew or who knew
someone who would know. Many reference books
tended to be out of date by the time they were
published and so after a few years on the job, a
media librarian finally had the training to get
the job done in a timely manner based on he or
she knew. Listservs arrived and continued the
wonderful personal contact that we all felt
during a conference where we could discuss topics
without physical or temporal borders. Listservs
changed everything and for media librarianship
Gary's helming of this invaluable professional
resource is undeniably one of the most important
developments in the field in the last 15 years.
Videolib has truly changed the face of the media
librarian profession. Thank you Gary. Thank you
for your vision, for your guidance, for your
patience and persistence, and for your sense of
humor. You are indeed important to the archeology of media librarianship.

May I suggest that we all compile an essential
screening list for Gary, so that he could occupy
his time appropriately later this summer?

My contribution is the final episode of the
second season of Twilight Zone. The Obsolete Man
(episode 65) was originally broadcast June 2,
1961 and starred Burgess Meredith as a librarian,
who, in a future totalitarian state, is judged
obsolete and sentenced to death. It's pretty
powerful, particularly the totalitarian stuff but
in no way reflects current individuals on this listserv.

Who knows, maybe Gary will helm the next
itera

[Videolib] Gary...

[Ledbetter, Terri]

Who will unsubscribe us now when we can't figure out how to do it?  ;-)
Just kidding.
Wish you all the best. It will be so weird around here without you!

Terri Beth Ledbetter
Hartford Public Library
Hartford, CT
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Good Night and Good Luck

[Dennis Doros]

Oksana,

Are you suggesting that Gary *doesn't* have a good voice and you really
think that he could stand my emails *without* a bottle of bourbon by his
desk? :-) As for the choice of Talmadge Sisters, it's obvious that you're
more of a Connie. And for the Videolibers who have yet experienced the joy
of Talmadge, Kino has a lovely DVD set that you should buy!

DD

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Oksana Dykyj wrote:

>  Dennis, (you crack me up as always)
>
> John Gilbert had a good voice.  He sounded like Edmund Lowe. Bad luck and
> certain people with grudges made sure his career ended, then again he
> helped by drinking a tad too much. Gary  (who has much better hair than
> Gilbert) is retiring of his own volition after many years of service but I
> expect  the zaniness  (and proximity to Napa) is yet to come. As for
> Connie, I'm flattered you compare me to her rather than the much less
> talented Natalie.
>
> O.
>
>
>
> At 03:15 PM 03/04/2012, you wrote:
>
> Wow, Oksana, that was wonderful. Does that make you Constance Talmadge and
> Gary, John Gilbert?
>
> Dennis
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Oksana Dykyj < oks...@alcor.concordia.ca>
> wrote:
>  Dear Gary,
>
> It wasn't until early this morning that it hit me
> and then all the analogies began streaming in.
> Your timing for "retirement" does comes at the
> end of an era/beginning of a new one. The main
> analogy is that for people like you and I, who
> grew up during the analog era, the last 15-20
> years have been essentially comparable to the
> first 15-20 years of the advent of moving images.
> I'm equating the birth of film to the birth of
> the internet. The internet arrived, access to
> information was at the tips of one's typing
> fingers and a new system for the distribution of
> all kinds of information was available to
> everyone (more or less). In 1895 after several
> years of experimentation, motion pictures were
> being shown in many parts of the world and
> provided access to worlds beyond anyone's
> imagination. In 1995, we were making decisions
> about whether we liked Mosaic or Netscape better
> as browsers. I liked Mosaic (but then I liked
> betamax over VHS). Roughly 17 years later, around
> 1912, motion pictures came into their own and
> serious feature-length films were becoming
> standard fare, attached to film directors whose
> development of film style left a lasting mark. In
> 2012, content distribution is taking a serious
> turn to streaming and leaving its mark about how
> we think about owning digital files of images -
> moving or still, and sounds - music or spoken
> content. Content itself is becoming more
> physically intangible. We can personally own
> books, films, music, but they do not reside on
> shelves, rather they reside somewhere Out There
> and we need devices to access them and to pay to
> "store" them. So, you are leaving us at a time
> where we have crossed the threshold to the next phase of technology.
>
> I remember when I first met you in person, as
> opposed to online. It was in Austin in 1995 at
> the Summer Institute at U of T at Austin
> entitled, Video, CD-ROM and Beyond. I remember
> giving a paper about film preservation and making
> some off the cuff remark about video on demand.
> Be careful what you wish for, I guess. Here we
> are with access to more things than we thought
> were even possible 17 years ago.
>
> Now about you and what you have done for us: I
> started my career at a time when correspondence
> meant writing memos and letters. Retrieving one's
> phone messages meant rewinding the audio-cassette
> on the answering machine attached to one's analog
> phone (and prior to that, calling into one's
> answering service and talking to someone who gave
> you your messages). Then modems and clunky e-mail
> and the internet arrived. And then Gary gave us
> videolib and a new way of professional
> communication. In the old days the easiest way to
> find a distributor for a film was to contact
> someone who might know. Information was passed
> along verbally by those who knew or who knew
> someone who would know. Many reference books
> tended to be out of date by the time they were
> published and so after a few years on the job, a
> media librarian finally had the training to get
> the job done in a timely manner based on he or
> she knew. Listservs arrived and continued the
> wonderful personal contact that we all felt
> during a conference where we could discuss topics
> without physical or temporal borders. Listservs
> changed everything and for media librarianship
> Gary's helming of this invaluable professional
> resource is undeniably one of the most important
> developments in the field in the last 15 years.
> Videolib has truly changed the face of the media
> librarian profession. Thank you Gary. Thank you
> for your vision, for your guidance, for your
> patience and persistence, and for your sense of
> humor. You are indeed important to the archeology of media librarianship.

Re: [Videolib] Good Night and Good Luck

[ghandman]

I'm more Wally Cox than John Gilbert, I'm afraid...

gary


> Oksana,
>
> Are you suggesting that Gary *doesn't* have a good voice and you really
> think that he could stand my emails *without* a bottle of bourbon by his
> desk? :-) As for the choice of Talmadge Sisters, it's obvious that you're
> more of a Connie. And for the Videolibers who have yet experienced the joy
> of Talmadge, Kino has a lovely DVD set that you should buy!
>
> DD
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Oksana Dykyj
> wrote:
>
>>  Dennis, (you crack me up as always)
>>
>> John Gilbert had a good voice.  He sounded like Edmund Lowe. Bad luck
>> and
>> certain people with grudges made sure his career ended, then again he
>> helped by drinking a tad too much. Gary  (who has much better hair than
>> Gilbert) is retiring of his own volition after many years of service but
>> I
>> expect  the zaniness  (and proximity to Napa) is yet to come. As for
>> Connie, I'm flattered you compare me to her rather than the much less
>> talented Natalie.
>>
>> O.
>>
>>
>>
>> At 03:15 PM 03/04/2012, you wrote:
>>
>> Wow, Oksana, that was wonderful. Does that make you Constance Talmadge
>> and
>> Gary, John Gilbert?
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Oksana Dykyj <
>> oks...@alcor.concordia.ca>
>> wrote:
>>  Dear Gary,
>>
>> It wasn't until early this morning that it hit me
>> and then all the analogies began streaming in.
>> Your timing for "retirement" does comes at the
>> end of an era/beginning of a new one. The main
>> analogy is that for people like you and I, who
>> grew up during the analog era, the last 15-20
>> years have been essentially comparable to the
>> first 15-20 years of the advent of moving images.
>> I'm equating the birth of film to the birth of
>> the internet. The internet arrived, access to
>> information was at the tips of one's typing
>> fingers and a new system for the distribution of
>> all kinds of information was available to
>> everyone (more or less). In 1895 after several
>> years of experimentation, motion pictures were
>> being shown in many parts of the world and
>> provided access to worlds beyond anyone's
>> imagination. In 1995, we were making decisions
>> about whether we liked Mosaic or Netscape better
>> as browsers. I liked Mosaic (but then I liked
>> betamax over VHS). Roughly 17 years later, around
>> 1912, motion pictures came into their own and
>> serious feature-length films were becoming
>> standard fare, attached to film directors whose
>> development of film style left a lasting mark. In
>> 2012, content distribution is taking a serious
>> turn to streaming and leaving its mark about how
>> we think about owning digital files of images -
>> moving or still, and sounds - music or spoken
>> content. Content itself is becoming more
>> physically intangible. We can personally own
>> books, films, music, but they do not reside on
>> shelves, rather they reside somewhere Out There
>> and we need devices to access them and to pay to
>> "store" them. So, you are leaving us at a time
>> where we have crossed the threshold to the next phase of technology.
>>
>> I remember when I first met you in person, as
>> opposed to online. It was in Austin in 1995 at
>> the Summer Institute at U of T at Austin
>> entitled, Video, CD-ROM and Beyond. I remember
>> giving a paper about film preservation and making
>> some off the cuff remark about video on demand.
>> Be careful what you wish for, I guess. Here we
>> are with access to more things than we thought
>> were even possible 17 years ago.
>>
>> Now about you and what you have done for us: I
>> started my career at a time when correspondence
>> meant writing memos and letters. Retrieving one's
>> phone messages meant rewinding the audio-cassette
>> on the answering machine attached to one's analog
>> phone (and prior to that, calling into one's
>> answering service and talking to someone who gave
>> you your messages). Then modems and clunky e-mail
>> and the internet arrived. And then Gary gave us
>> videolib and a new way of professional
>> communication. In the old days the easiest way to
>> find a distributor for a film was to contact
>> someone who might know. Information was passed
>> along verbally by those who knew or who knew
>> someone who would know. Many reference books
>> tended to be out of date by the time they were
>> published and so after a few years on the job, a
>> media librarian finally had the training to get
>> the job done in a timely manner based on he or
>> she knew. Listservs arrived and continued the
>> wonderful personal contact that we all felt
>> during a conference where we could discuss topics
>> without physical or temporal borders. Listservs
>> changed everything and for media librarianship
>> Gary's helming of this invaluable professional
>> resource is undeniably one of the most important
>> developments in the field in the last 15 years.
>> Videolib has truly changed the face of the media
>> librarian profession. Than

Re: [Videolib] LIFETIME STREAMING RIGHTS

[Lawrence Daressa]

Dear Bob,

Newsreel's position on this has always been that a producer (the
copyright holder) grants us the right to makes copies of his or her work
or to grant others that right only during the term of our contract
(distribution agreement.) We will continue to grant the right to copy
(migrate) files licensed by us at no charge for as long as we have that
right  (i.e. during the life of our contract with the producer.)  Not
all distributors may choose to do so. Once Newsreel's contract expires,,
the purchaser of a file or a local streaming license would need to ask
the copyright holder's permission to make additional files. 

As with DVDs, the purchaser of a file or local streaming  license from
Newsreel has the right to "play" or stream that file in perpetuity.
Apple must have obtained digital rights "in perpetuity"  though they
have never asked for them from Newsreel nor would or could we grant
them. I hope this clarifies rather than complicates this issue. 

Larry   

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   3. Re: Good Night and Good Luck (Dennis Doros)


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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 13:13:59 -0500
From: Bob Norris 
Subject: [Videolib] Lifetime Streaming Rights
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I hate to bring up a copyright issue again but...

There was recently a discussion if it is acceptable for a distributor to
grant Lifetime streaming rights. There was a faction that argued it is
acceptable as long as you limit the rights to a single digital format
and do not allow the buyer to transcode the file to a new format. They
could use the original file as long as it plays on their streaming
service just like they could use a DVD as long as it works. The analogy
was made to a download in the consumer market not having a time
restriction.

I was recently discussing this with an institution that wants to stream
in perpetuity in any format. I said Apple does not permit that and she
asked if that was through a technical limitation/DRM or the Terms and
Conditions agreement. I had to admit I did not know. So I reviewed the
terms (http://www.apple.com/legal/itunes/us/terms.html#SERVICE) and can
see no restriction about copying files to a new format. They only limit
playback to 5 iTunes approved devices and do not allow iTunes video to
be burned, which I think means to disc. Then I transcoded a m4a file to
an ACC file and played it back no problem. So it looks like Apple is
selling the right to play back in any digital format in perpetuity. 

Am I missing something?
Bob

Robert A. Norris
Managing Director
Film Ideas, Inc.
Phone:  (847) 419-0255
Email:  b...@filmideas.com
Web:www.filmideas.com

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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 11:42:33 -0700
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;-{)} That's me...Mr. Drip

g



> Exactly - Gary is going in to drip irrigation!
>  JM
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of nahum laufer
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:09 PM
> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> Subject: Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 53, Issue 15
>
> Dear Gary
> I just arrived at your Video lib this week, and you won't be around.
> Thanks for all your help
> My advice as one pensioner to another, don't sit around doing nothing
find
> something interesting something differant, I myself was an expert on
drip
> irrigation joined my son to make and distribute films.
> Nahum Laufer
>>
>> At 11:17 AM 02/04/2012, you wrote:
>>>Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls It is with a mix of melancholy,
>>>ebullience, slight trepidation, and vast relief that I announce my
>>>fort

Re: [Videolib] STOP GARY!!!

[Brigid Duffy]

You people are completely wrong on this, STOP saying nice things about  
Handman, STOP wishing him well, STOP suggesting what he can do with  
his free time.

DENY THE FACTS. REFUSE TO FACE REALITY. TELL HIM IF HE EMPTIES HIS  
DESK, UC BERKELEY WILL CRUMBLE TO DUST.

It's all we can do.

(And if that doesn't work, my suggestion is geocaching, Gary - a  
treasure hunt where the treasure is the hunting. http://www.geocaching.com/ 
  )

Brigid Duffy
Academic Technology
San Francisco State University
San Francisco, CA  94132-4200
E-mail: bdu...@sfsu.edu


On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:23 PM,  wrote:

> I'm more Wally Cox than John Gilbert, I'm afraid...
>
> gary
>
>
>> Oksana,
>>
>> Are you suggesting that Gary *doesn't* have a good voice and you  
>> really
>> think that he could stand my emails *without* a bottle of bourbon  
>> by his
>> desk? :-) As for the choice of Talmadge Sisters, it's obvious that  
>> you're
>> more of a Connie. And for the Videolibers who have yet experienced  
>> the joy
>> of Talmadge, Kino has a lovely DVD set that you should buy!
>>
>> DD
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Oksana Dykyj
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dennis, (you crack me up as always)
>>>
>>> John Gilbert had a good voice.  He sounded like Edmund Lowe. Bad  
>>> luck
>>> and
>>> certain people with grudges made sure his career ended, then again  
>>> he
>>> helped by drinking a tad too much. Gary  (who has much better hair  
>>> than
>>> Gilbert) is retiring of his own volition after many years of  
>>> service but
>>> I
>>> expect  the zaniness  (and proximity to Napa) is yet to come. As for
>>> Connie, I'm flattered you compare me to her rather than the much  
>>> less
>>> talented Natalie.
>>>
>>> O.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 03:15 PM 03/04/2012, you wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow, Oksana, that was wonderful. Does that make you Constance  
>>> Talmadge
>>> and
>>> Gary, John Gilbert?
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Oksana Dykyj <
>>> oks...@alcor.concordia.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>> Dear Gary,
>>>
>>> It wasn't until early this morning that it hit me
>>> and then all the analogies began streaming in.
>>> Your timing for "retirement" does comes at the
>>> end of an era/beginning of a new one. The main
>>> analogy is that for people like you and I, who
>>> grew up during the analog era, the last 15-20
>>> years have been essentially comparable to the
>>> first 15-20 years of the advent of moving images.
>>> I'm equating the birth of film to the birth of
>>> the internet. The internet arrived, access to
>>> information was at the tips of one's typing
>>> fingers and a new system for the distribution of
>>> all kinds of information was available to
>>> everyone (more or less). In 1895 after several
>>> years of experimentation, motion pictures were
>>> being shown in many parts of the world and
>>> provided access to worlds beyond anyone's
>>> imagination. In 1995, we were making decisions
>>> about whether we liked Mosaic or Netscape better
>>> as browsers. I liked Mosaic (but then I liked
>>> betamax over VHS). Roughly 17 years later, around
>>> 1912, motion pictures came into their own and
>>> serious feature-length films were becoming
>>> standard fare, attached to film directors whose
>>> development of film style left a lasting mark. In
>>> 2012, content distribution is taking a serious
>>> turn to streaming and leaving its mark about how
>>> we think about owning digital files of images -
>>> moving or still, and sounds - music or spoken
>>> content. Content itself is becoming more
>>> physically intangible. We can personally own
>>> books, films, music, but they do not reside on
>>> shelves, rather they reside somewhere Out There
>>> and we need devices to access them and to pay to
>>> "store" them. So, you are leaving us at a time
>>> where we have crossed the threshold to the next phase of technology.
>>>
>>> I remember when I first met you in person, as
>>> opposed to online. It was in Austin in 1995 at
>>> the Summer Institute at U of T at Austin
>>> entitled, Video, CD-ROM and Beyond. I remember
>>> giving a paper about film preservation and making
>>> some off the cuff remark about video on demand.
>>> Be careful what you wish for, I guess. Here we
>>> are with access to more things than we thought
>>> were even possible 17 years ago.
>>>
>>> Now about you and what you have done for us: I
>>> started my career at a time when correspondence
>>> meant writing memos and letters. Retrieving one's
>>> phone messages meant rewinding the audio-cassette
>>> on the answering machine attached to one's analog
>>> phone (and prior to that, calling into one's
>>> answering service and talking to someone who gave
>>> you your messages). Then modems and clunky e-mail
>>> and the internet arrived. And then Gary gave us
>>> videolib and a new way of professional
>>> communication. In the old days the easiest way to
>>> find a distributor for a film was to contact
>>> someone who might know. Information was passed
>>> along verbally by th

Re: [Videolib] I knew we should have done that Storycorps interview

[elizabeth mcmahon]

Can I "like," no "love" this? Gary, don't leave us all bereft of your 
accumulated knowledge and humously, wryly, maybe cynically  reasoned (though 
sometimes just to throw us off, impassioned) opinions. Retire from "work" if 
you must, but do not retire us, your flock. We need you, Gary, oh yes we do, 
for the foreseeable future. We love you Gary, that much is true.

 
From: Maureen Tripp 
>To: "'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu'"  
>Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 3:57 PM
>Subject: [Videolib] I knew we should have done that Storycorps interview
>
>
>Gary, you are my hero.  If you’re not doing this anymore, I kind of don’t want 
>to, either.
>On the other hand, I do need to stay employed.  
>But it will not be as much fun.  And it will be way harder without your 
>guidance and inspiration.
>
>Maureen Tripp
>Media Librarian
>Iwasaki Library
>120 Boylston Street
>Boston, MA 02116
>maureen_tr...@emerson.edu
>(617)824-8407
>
>
>
>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
>relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
>preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
>related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
>working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
>between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
>distributors.
>
>
>Elizabeth
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] I knew we should have done that Storycorps interview

[elizabeth mcmahon]

Humorously. Hope that was obvious enough.


Elizabeth

From: elizabeth mcmahon 
>To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu"  
>Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 7:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [Videolib] I knew we should have done that Storycorps interview
>
>
>Can I "like," no "love" this? Gary, don't leave us all bereft of your 
>accumulated knowledge and humously, wryly, maybe cynically  reasoned (though 
>sometimes just to throw us off, impassioned) opinions. Retire from "work" if 
>you must, but do not retire us, your flock. We need you, Gary, oh yes we do, 
>for the foreseeable future. We love you Gary, that much is true.
>
> 
>From: Maureen Tripp 
>>To: "'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu'"  
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 3:57 PM
>>Subject: [Videolib] I knew we should have done that Storycorps interview
>>
>>
>>Gary, you are my hero.  If you’re not doing this anymore, I kind of don’t 
>>want to, either.
>>On the other hand, I do need to stay employed.  
>>But it will not be as much fun.  And it will be way harder without your 
>>guidance and inspiration.
>>
>>Maureen Tripp
>>Media Librarian
>>Iwasaki Library
>>120 Boylston Street
>>Boston, MA 02116
>>maureen_tr...@emerson.edu
>>(617)824-8407
>>
>>
>>
>>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
>>relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
>>preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
>>related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
>>working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
>>between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
>>distributors.
>>
>>
>>Elizabeth
>
>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
>relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
>preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
>related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
>working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
>between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
>distributors.
>
>
>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] I knew we should have done that Storycorps interview

[ghandman]

flock?...you're definitely making me nervous, Elizabeth.  Makes me sound
like Elmer Gantry.  I'm definitely no good at the water-into-wine thing,
except on the drinking end.

But I do appreciate the love...

Now back to work, all...

gary




> Can I "like," no "love" this? Gary, don't leave us all bereft of your
> accumulated knowledge and humously, wryly, maybe cynically  reasoned
> (though sometimes just to throw us off, impassioned) opinions. Retire from
> "work" if you must, but do not retire us, your flock. We need you, Gary,
> oh yes we do, for the foreseeable future. We love you Gary, that much is
> true.
>
>  
> From: Maureen Tripp 
>>To: "'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu'" 
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 3:57 PM
>>Subject: [Videolib] I knew we should have done that Storycorps interview
>>
>>
>>Gary, you are my hero.  If you’re not doing this anymore, I kind of don’t
>> want to, either.
>>On the other hand, I do need to stay employed. 
>>But it will not be as much fun.  And it will be way harder without your
>> guidance and inspiration.
>>
>>Maureen Tripp
>>Media Librarian
>>Iwasaki Library
>>120 Boylston Street
>>Boston, MA 02116
>>maureen_tr...@emerson.edu
>>(617)824-8407
>>
>>
>>
>>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
>> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel
>> of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>> producers and distributors.
>>
>>
>>Elizabeth
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>


Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

"I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself."
--Francois Truffaut


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.