Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

[Ursula Schwarz]

Close, Jessica. The NMM preview portal http://nmm-previewportal.net/ has
been open to all librarians since May. Starting October 1 it will only be
accessible to registered NMM attendees. So now is the time to create an
account and check it out! We would love to get some feedback.

Ursula

National Media Market (NMM)
http://www.nmm.net/
P.O. Box 87410
Tucson, AZ 85754-7410
(520) 743-7735 
http://tinyurl.com/AboutNMM



From:  Jessica Rosner 
Reply-To:  
Date:  Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:30 PM
To:  
Subject:  Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

As these are films that have as mentioned had significant theatrical play
they pretty much have done that part of marketing. If the film is available
through an aggregate site  it is pretty much the end of direct sales and it
is perfectly understandable that aggregator can't pay very much for a single
film so when a filmmaker is trying to recoup tens of thousands of dollars (
and trust me they only expect a fraction of this to come from academic
sales) this is not a good option. Now it depends entirely on the film. I
think these films are more than strong enough to sell on their own, I think
one is an absolute blockbuster. I would not expect any  library to buy them
unless they would be used for classes.

I also think I have accidentally mixed up the streaming issue with the film
itself. The streaming rights are pretty much the cherry on top and it is
about the content of the films and their use in studies. No one is being
forced to buy streaming rights, they can buy the DVD without them but again
one distinct advantage of dealing directly with the filmmakers is that you
can by them with guaranteed lifetime streaming rights as these filmmakers
own all rights themselves. I admit this is not likely the norm but these are
honestly rather dedicated filmmakers who are committed to keeping control of
their films and being directly involved in the distribution.

FYI I am told that the NMM site will be open to any librarian in October for
one month. Ursula are you lurking around?


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Jo Ann Reynolds
 wrote:
> Jessica,
>  
> So, they want to sink their $$ into marketing then?
>  
> To be blunt right back, as an academic purchaser I am going to favor
> aggregated sites because they are more likely to be one stop shopping for me.
> When faculty x tells me she wants a film on y subject there is a limit to the
> amount of time I have to devote to that search. I am going to lean heavily in
> the direction of vendors who¹ve got material from a variety of sources, who
> understand the academic market and what we need, and who have a site
> searchable by subject and/or keyword.
>  
> The filmmaker doesn¹t have to negotiate an exclusive agreement with a
> distributor, or do they? Seems to me they are going to get lost in the crowd
> by trying to go it alone.
>  
> Maybe the NMM will open up their website to the world, we can only hope!
> 
>  
> Jo Ann 
>  
> Jo Ann Reynolds
> Reserve Services Coordinator
> University of Connecticut Libraries
> 369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005RR
> Storrs, CT  06269-1005
> jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu
> 860-486-1406 
> 860-486-5636   (fax)
> http://classguides.lib.uconn.edu/mediaresources
>  
>  
>  
> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:39 AM
> 
> 
> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog
>  
> 
> To be blunt because they would lose their shirts. These are folks who invested
> a lot of money in making the films I don't want to hype them here but they are
> new films that have had significant theatrical play and are on subjects of
> major interest to the academic world ( and they won't be out in the retail
> market) I have the greatest respect for ASP, New Day for t etc but they simply
> would not generate the revenue these folks need to survive. It is
> understandable that collections containing thousands of films can't afford to
> pay very much for an individual title but I am confident that these are
> important films that many institutions will want to buy. To be honest I am
> more familiar with ASP model than New Day or Docuseek but the directors really
> want to handle all their sales directly. They do not have to be streamed but
> as many institutions now want streaming rights we want to make them available.
> Libraries are more then welcome to buy them without streaming rights.
>  
> PS I will be taking to of them to The National Media Market so  hope to see
> some of you there.
> 
>  
> 
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Jo Ann Reynolds
>  wrote:
> 
> Why don¹t you send them to one of the vendor¹s who stream indie stuff, Like
> New Day Digital or  Docuseek2? Many libraries don¹t have in-house streaming
> expertise either.
>  
> Best,
> Jo Ann
>  
> From:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
> [mailto:videolib-boun

Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

[Jessica Rosner]

As these are films that have as mentioned had significant theatrical play
they pretty much have done that part of marketing. If the film is available
through an aggregate site  it is pretty much the end of direct sales and it
is perfectly understandable that aggregator can't pay very much for a
single film so when a filmmaker is trying to recoup tens of thousands of
dollars ( and trust me they only expect a fraction of this to come from
academic sales) this is not a good option. Now it depends entirely on the
film. I think these films are more than strong enough to sell on their own,
I think one is an absolute blockbuster. I would not expect any  library to
buy them unless they would be used for classes.

I also think I have accidentally mixed up the streaming issue with the film
itself. The streaming rights are pretty much the cherry on top and it is
about the content of the films and their use in studies. No one is being
forced to buy streaming rights, they can buy the DVD without them but again
one distinct advantage of dealing directly with the filmmakers is that you
can by them with guaranteed lifetime streaming rights as these filmmakers
own all rights themselves. I admit this is not likely the norm but these
are honestly rather dedicated filmmakers who are committed to keeping
control of their films and being directly involved in the distribution.

FYI I am told that the NMM site will be open to any librarian in October
for one month. Ursula are you lurking around?


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Jo Ann Reynolds <
jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu> wrote:

>  Jessica,
>
> ** **
>
> So, they want to sink their $$ into marketing then?
>
> ** **
>
> To be blunt right back, as an academic purchaser I am going to favor
> aggregated sites because they are more likely to be one stop shopping for
> me. When faculty x tells me she wants a film on y subject there is a limit
> to the amount of time I have to devote to that search. I am going to lean
> heavily in the direction of vendors who’ve got material from a variety of
> sources, who understand the academic market and what we need, and who have
> a site searchable by subject and/or keyword.
>
> ** **
>
> The filmmaker doesn’t have to negotiate an exclusive agreement with a
> distributor, or do they? Seems to me they are going to get lost in the
> crowd by trying to go it alone.
>
> ** **
>
> Maybe the NMM will open up their website to the world, we can only hope!**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> Jo Ann 
>
> ** **
>
> Jo Ann Reynolds
>
> Reserve Services Coordinator
>
> University of Connecticut Libraries
>
> 369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005RR
>
> Storrs, CT  06269-1005
>
> jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu
>
> 860-486-1406
>
> 860-486-5636 (fax)
>
> *http://classguides.lib.uconn.edu/mediaresources *
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:39 AM
>
> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog
>
> ** **
>
> To be blunt because they would lose their shirts. These are folks who
> invested a lot of money in making the films I don't want to hype them here
> but they are new films that have had significant theatrical play and are on
> subjects of major interest to the academic world ( and they won't be out in
> the retail market) I have the greatest respect for ASP, New Day for t etc
> but they simply would not generate the revenue these folks need to survive.
> It is understandable that collections containing thousands of films can't
> afford to pay very much for an individual title but I am confident that
> these are important films that many institutions will want to buy. To be
> honest I am more familiar with ASP model than New Day or Docuseek but the
> directors really want to handle all their sales directly. They do not have
> to be streamed but as many institutions now want streaming rights we want
> to make them available. Libraries are more then welcome to buy them without
> streaming rights.
>
> ** **
>
> PS I will be taking to of them to The National Media Market so  hope to
> see some of you there.
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Jo Ann Reynolds <
> jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu> wrote:
>
> Why don’t you send them to one of the vendor’s who stream indie stuff,
> Like New Day Digital or  Docuseek2? Many libraries don’t have in-house
> streaming expertise either.
>
>  
>
> Best,
>
> Jo Ann
>
>  
>
> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:22 AM
>
>
> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog
>
>  
>
> Thanks for answering my stupid question. I am dealing with

[Videolib] Multi-region VCRs

[Ball, James (jmb4aw)]

Hi All,

Does anyone know if multi-region VCRs are being manufactured by anyone?

Cheers,

Matt

__
Matt Ball
Media and Collections Librarian
Clemons Library
University of Virginia
mattb...@virginia.edu
434-924-3812

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

[Jo Ann Reynolds]

Jessica,

So, they want to sink their $$ into marketing then?

To be blunt right back, as an academic purchaser I am going to favor aggregated 
sites because they are more likely to be one stop shopping for me. When faculty 
x tells me she wants a film on y subject there is a limit to the amount of time 
I have to devote to that search. I am going to lean heavily in the direction of 
vendors who've got material from a variety of sources, who understand the 
academic market and what we need, and who have a site searchable by subject 
and/or keyword.

The filmmaker doesn't have to negotiate an exclusive agreement with a 
distributor, or do they? Seems to me they are going to get lost in the crowd by 
trying to go it alone.

Maybe the NMM will open up their website to the world, we can only hope!

Jo Ann

Jo Ann Reynolds
Reserve Services Coordinator
University of Connecticut Libraries
369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005RR
Storrs, CT  06269-1005
jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu
860-486-1406
860-486-5636 (fax)
http://classguides.lib.uconn.edu/mediaresources



From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:39 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

To be blunt because they would lose their shirts. These are folks who invested 
a lot of money in making the films I don't want to hype them here but they are 
new films that have had significant theatrical play and are on subjects of 
major interest to the academic world ( and they won't be out in the retail 
market) I have the greatest respect for ASP, New Day for t etc but they simply 
would not generate the revenue these folks need to survive. It is 
understandable that collections containing thousands of films can't afford to 
pay very much for an individual title but I am confident that these are 
important films that many institutions will want to buy. To be honest I am more 
familiar with ASP model than New Day or Docuseek but the directors really want 
to handle all their sales directly. They do not have to be streamed but as many 
institutions now want streaming rights we want to make them available. 
Libraries are more then welcome to buy them without streaming rights.

PS I will be taking to of them to The National Media Market so  hope to see 
some of you there.

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Jo Ann Reynolds 
mailto:jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu>> wrote:
Why don't you send them to one of the vendor's who stream indie stuff, Like New 
Day Digital or  Docuseek2? Many libraries don't have in-house streaming 
expertise either.

Best,
Jo Ann

From: 
videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu]
 On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:22 AM

To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

Thanks for answering my stupid question. I am dealing with some indie docs 
where the filmmakers as a practical matter can't really do their own streaming 
and I am trying to figure out if institutions will just put up their own site 
and what are best ways to do this . So far I have only been able to do this 
with DVD but I can suggest a higher end digital format. This is mostly for sale 
with lifetime rights but I don't think that makes a difference format wise in 
terms of streaming.
For the record I don't even own a DVD player. I am a proud luddite which may 
not be the best thing for some of these issues.

Thanks again

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Jo Ann Reynolds 
mailto:jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu>> wrote:
They provide us with the film in digitized format, MP4, and we stream it.

Best,
Jo Ann

From: 
videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu]
 On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:12 AM

To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

Sorry but I am a total technical idiot. Does this mean they provide you with 
the film in digized format and you stream it or they stream it and you can 
access it?
Either way I am glad they are now in the game, now we all need to gang up on 
Criterion/Janus who still does not allow streaming on their titles which is 
nuts ( though most are on Hulu)

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Jo Ann Reynolds 
mailto:jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu>> wrote:
I just called Criterion and it seems they are streaming to institutions. They 
charge for the MP4 and the length of time you want to stream.

Negotiate! I was able to reduce the price somewhat by buying multiple titles. 
We haven't inked any agreement yet but I 

Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

[Jo Ann Reynolds]

It means the length of the license to stream. They offered me up to a 5 year 
stream. You load the MP4 to your streaming server and can stream it for the 
term of the license.

Best,
Jo Ann

Jo Ann Reynolds
Reserve Services Coordinator
University of Connecticut Libraries
369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005RR
Storrs, CT  06269-1005
jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu
860-486-1406
860-486-5636 (fax)
http://classguides.lib.uconn.edu/mediaresources



From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Brewer, Michael
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:50 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

Jo Ann,

What does "length of time you want to stream it" mean? Does that mean the 
period of time during which it will be available to students (e.g. a particular 
semester or a few weeks during a semester during which students could access 
the title through a CMS, etc.)? Or does it mean the total amount of streaming 
that occurs (e.g., just a few hours if it is streamed to a single class, versus 
hundreds of hours if students individually stream it to their desktops and 
watch it individually and asynchronously)?

mb

Michael Brewer | Librarian | Team Leader for Instructional Services

From: 
videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jo Ann Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:46 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

I just called Criterion and it seems they are streaming to institutions. They 
charge for the MP4 and the length of time you want to stream.

Negotiate! I was able to reduce the price somewhat by buying multiple titles. 
We haven't inked any agreement yet but I am pursuing.

Best,
Jo Ann

Jo Ann Reynolds
Reserve Services Coordinator
University of Connecticut Libraries
369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005RR
Storrs, CT  06269-1005
jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu
860-486-1406
860-486-5636 (fax)
http://classguides.lib.uconn.edu/mediaresources



From: 
videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 4:09 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

It went over to Criterion Pictures USA but I am unclear if there streaming is 
set up yet.
Here is link for listing and in general I would try them for any title Swank 
used to have as there is a lot of shuffling

http://media2.criterionpic.com/htbin/wwform/014?TEXT=R6084263-6087934-/CA/WWI770.HTM

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Linkous, Kimberly A. 
mailto:klink...@stlcc.edu>> wrote:
Hello -

It seems Swank has lost the rights to this film.  Does anyone know of another 
source for streaming rights?

Thank you,
Kimberly Linkous
St. Louis Community College

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
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working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

[Brewer, Michael]

Jo Ann,

What does "length of time you want to stream it" mean? Does that mean the 
period of time during which it will be available to students (e.g. a particular 
semester or a few weeks during a semester during which students could access 
the title through a CMS, etc.)? Or does it mean the total amount of streaming 
that occurs (e.g., just a few hours if it is streamed to a single class, versus 
hundreds of hours if students individually stream it to their desktops and 
watch it individually and asynchronously)?

mb

Michael Brewer | Librarian | Team Leader for Instructional Services

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jo Ann Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:46 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

I just called Criterion and it seems they are streaming to institutions. They 
charge for the MP4 and the length of time you want to stream.

Negotiate! I was able to reduce the price somewhat by buying multiple titles. 
We haven't inked any agreement yet but I am pursuing.

Best,
Jo Ann

Jo Ann Reynolds
Reserve Services Coordinator
University of Connecticut Libraries
369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005RR
Storrs, CT  06269-1005
jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu
860-486-1406
860-486-5636 (fax)
http://classguides.lib.uconn.edu/mediaresources



From: 
videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 4:09 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

It went over to Criterion Pictures USA but I am unclear if there streaming is 
set up yet.
Here is link for listing and in general I would try them for any title Swank 
used to have as there is a lot of shuffling

http://media2.criterionpic.com/htbin/wwform/014?TEXT=R6084263-6087934-/CA/WWI770.HTM

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Linkous, Kimberly A. 
mailto:klink...@stlcc.edu>> wrote:
Hello -

It seems Swank has lost the rights to this film.  Does anyone know of another 
source for streaming rights?

Thank you,
Kimberly Linkous
St. Louis Community College

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

[Jo Ann Reynolds]

They provide us with the film in digitized format, MP4, and we stream it.

Best,
Jo Ann

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:12 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

Sorry but I am a total technical idiot. Does this mean they provide you with 
the film in digized format and you stream it or they stream it and you can 
access it?
Either way I am glad they are now in the game, now we all need to gang up on 
Criterion/Janus who still does not allow streaming on their titles which is 
nuts ( though most are on Hulu)

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Jo Ann Reynolds 
mailto:jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu>> wrote:
I just called Criterion and it seems they are streaming to institutions. They 
charge for the MP4 and the length of time you want to stream.

Negotiate! I was able to reduce the price somewhat by buying multiple titles. 
We haven't inked any agreement yet but I am pursuing.

Best,
Jo Ann

Jo Ann Reynolds
Reserve Services Coordinator
University of Connecticut Libraries
369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005RR
Storrs, CT  06269-1005
jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu
860-486-1406
860-486-5636 (fax)
http://classguides.lib.uconn.edu/mediaresources



From: 
videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu]
 On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 4:09 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

It went over to Criterion Pictures USA but I am unclear if there streaming is 
set up yet.
Here is link for listing and in general I would try them for any title Swank 
used to have as there is a lot of shuffling

http://media2.criterionpic.com/htbin/wwform/014?TEXT=R6084263-6087934-/CA/WWI770.HTM

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Linkous, Kimberly A. 
mailto:klink...@stlcc.edu>> wrote:
Hello -

It seems Swank has lost the rights to this film.  Does anyone know of another 
source for streaming rights?

Thank you,
Kimberly Linkous
St. Louis Community College

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

[Jessica Rosner]

To be blunt because they would lose their shirts. These are folks who
invested a lot of money in making the films I don't want to hype them here
but they are new films that have had significant theatrical play and are on
subjects of major interest to the academic world ( and they won't be out in
the retail market) I have the greatest respect for ASP, New Day for t etc
but they simply would not generate the revenue these folks need to survive.
It is understandable that collections containing thousands of films can't
afford to pay very much for an individual title but I am confident that
these are important films that many institutions will want to buy. To be
honest I am more familiar with ASP model than New Day or Docuseek but the
directors really want to handle all their sales directly. They do not have
to be streamed but as many institutions now want streaming rights we want
to make them available. Libraries are more then welcome to buy them without
streaming rights.

PS I will be taking to of them to The National Media Market so  hope to see
some of you there.


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Jo Ann Reynolds <
jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu> wrote:

>  Why don’t you send them to one of the vendor’s who stream indie stuff,
> Like New Day Digital or  Docuseek2? Many libraries don’t have in-house
> streaming expertise either.
>
> ** **
>
> Best,
>
> Jo Ann
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:22 AM
>
> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks for answering my stupid question. I am dealing with some indie docs
> where the filmmakers as a practical matter can't really do their own
> streaming and I am trying to figure out if institutions will just put up
> their own site and what are best ways to do this . So far I have only been
> able to do this with DVD but I can suggest a higher end digital format.
> This is mostly for sale with lifetime rights but I don't think that makes a
> difference format wise in terms of streaming. 
>
> For the record I don't even own a DVD player. I am a proud luddite which
> may not be the best thing for some of these issues.
>
> Thanks again
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Jo Ann Reynolds <
> jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu> wrote:
>
> They provide us with the film in digitized format, MP4, and we stream it.*
> ***
>
>  
>
> Best,
>
> Jo Ann
>
>  
>
> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:12 AM
>
>
> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog
>
>  
>
> Sorry but I am a total technical idiot. Does this mean they provide you
> with the film in digized format and you stream it or they stream it and you
> can access it?
>
> Either way I am glad they are now in the game, now we all need to gang up
> on Criterion/Janus who still does not allow streaming on their titles which
> is nuts ( though most are on Hulu)
>
>  
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Jo Ann Reynolds <
> jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu> wrote:
>
> I just called Criterion and it seems they are streaming to institutions.
> They charge for the MP4 and the length of time you want to stream.
>
>  
>
> Negotiate! I was able to reduce the price somewhat by buying multiple
> titles. We haven’t inked any agreement yet but I am pursuing.
>
>  
>
> Best,
>
> Jo Ann 
>
>  
>
> Jo Ann Reynolds
>
> Reserve Services Coordinator
>
> University of Connecticut Libraries
>
> 369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005RR
>
> Storrs, CT  06269-1005
>
> jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu
>
> 860-486-1406
>
> 860-486-5636 (fax)
>
> *http://classguides.lib.uconn.edu/mediaresources *
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 11, 2013 4:09 PM
> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog
>
>  
>
> It went over to Criterion Pictures USA but I am unclear if there streaming
> is set up yet. 
>
> Here is link for listing and in general I would try them for any title
> Swank used to have as there is a lot of shuffling
>
>
> http://media2.criterionpic.com/htbin/wwform/014?TEXT=R6084263-6087934-/CA/WWI770.HTM
> 
>
>  
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Linkous, Kimberly A. 
> wrote:
>
> Hello –
>
>  
>
> It seems Swank has lost the rights to this film.  Does anyone know of
> another source for streaming rights?
>
>  
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kimberly Linkous
>
> St. Louis C

Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

[Jo Ann Reynolds]

Why don't you send them to one of the vendor's who stream indie stuff, Like New 
Day Digital or  Docuseek2? Many libraries don't have in-house streaming 
expertise either.

Best,
Jo Ann

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:22 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

Thanks for answering my stupid question. I am dealing with some indie docs 
where the filmmakers as a practical matter can't really do their own streaming 
and I am trying to figure out if institutions will just put up their own site 
and what are best ways to do this . So far I have only been able to do this 
with DVD but I can suggest a higher end digital format. This is mostly for sale 
with lifetime rights but I don't think that makes a difference format wise in 
terms of streaming.
For the record I don't even own a DVD player. I am a proud luddite which may 
not be the best thing for some of these issues.

Thanks again

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Jo Ann Reynolds 
mailto:jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu>> wrote:
They provide us with the film in digitized format, MP4, and we stream it.

Best,
Jo Ann

From: 
videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu]
 On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:12 AM

To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

Sorry but I am a total technical idiot. Does this mean they provide you with 
the film in digized format and you stream it or they stream it and you can 
access it?
Either way I am glad they are now in the game, now we all need to gang up on 
Criterion/Janus who still does not allow streaming on their titles which is 
nuts ( though most are on Hulu)

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Jo Ann Reynolds 
mailto:jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu>> wrote:
I just called Criterion and it seems they are streaming to institutions. They 
charge for the MP4 and the length of time you want to stream.

Negotiate! I was able to reduce the price somewhat by buying multiple titles. 
We haven't inked any agreement yet but I am pursuing.

Best,
Jo Ann

Jo Ann Reynolds
Reserve Services Coordinator
University of Connecticut Libraries
369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005RR
Storrs, CT  06269-1005
jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu
860-486-1406
860-486-5636 (fax)
http://classguides.lib.uconn.edu/mediaresources



From: 
videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu]
 On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 4:09 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

It went over to Criterion Pictures USA but I am unclear if there streaming is 
set up yet.
Here is link for listing and in general I would try them for any title Swank 
used to have as there is a lot of shuffling

http://media2.criterionpic.com/htbin/wwform/014?TEXT=R6084263-6087934-/CA/WWI770.HTM

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Linkous, Kimberly A. 
mailto:klink...@stlcc.edu>> wrote:
Hello -

It seems Swank has lost the rights to this film.  Does anyone know of another 
source for streaming rights?

Thank you,
Kimberly Linkous
St. Louis Community College

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers 

Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

[Jessica Rosner]

Sorry but I am a total technical idiot. Does this mean they provide you
with the film in digized format and you stream it or they stream it and you
can access it?

Either way I am glad they are now in the game, now we all need to gang up
on Criterion/Janus who still does not allow streaming on their titles which
is nuts ( though most are on Hulu)


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Jo Ann Reynolds <
jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu> wrote:

>  I just called Criterion and it seems they are streaming to institutions.
> They charge for the MP4 and the length of time you want to stream.
>
> ** **
>
> Negotiate! I was able to reduce the price somewhat by buying multiple
> titles. We haven’t inked any agreement yet but I am pursuing.
>
> ** **
>
> Best,
>
> Jo Ann 
>
> ** **
>
> Jo Ann Reynolds
>
> Reserve Services Coordinator
>
> University of Connecticut Libraries
>
> 369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005RR
>
> Storrs, CT  06269-1005
>
> jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu
>
> 860-486-1406
>
> 860-486-5636 (fax)
>
> *http://classguides.lib.uconn.edu/mediaresources *
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 11, 2013 4:09 PM
> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog
>
> ** **
>
> It went over to Criterion Pictures USA but I am unclear if there streaming
> is set up yet. 
>
> Here is link for listing and in general I would try them for any title
> Swank used to have as there is a lot of shuffling
>
>
> http://media2.criterionpic.com/htbin/wwform/014?TEXT=R6084263-6087934-/CA/WWI770.HTM
> 
>
> ** **
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Linkous, Kimberly A. 
> wrote:
>
> Hello –
>
>  
>
> It seems Swank has lost the rights to this film.  Does anyone know of
> another source for streaming rights?
>
>  
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kimberly Linkous
>
> St. Louis Community College
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
> ** **
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

[Jessica Rosner]

Thanks for answering my stupid question. I am dealing with some indie docs
where the filmmakers as a practical matter can't really do their own
streaming and I am trying to figure out if institutions will just put up
their own site and what are best ways to do this . So far I have only been
able to do this with DVD but I can suggest a higher end digital format.
This is mostly for sale with lifetime rights but I don't think that makes a
difference format wise in terms of streaming.

For the record I don't even own a DVD player. I am a proud luddite which
may not be the best thing for some of these issues.

Thanks again


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Jo Ann Reynolds <
jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu> wrote:

>  They provide us with the film in digitized format, MP4, and we stream it.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Best,
>
> Jo Ann
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:12 AM
>
> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog
>
> ** **
>
> Sorry but I am a total technical idiot. Does this mean they provide you
> with the film in digized format and you stream it or they stream it and you
> can access it?
>
> Either way I am glad they are now in the game, now we all need to gang up
> on Criterion/Janus who still does not allow streaming on their titles which
> is nuts ( though most are on Hulu)
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Jo Ann Reynolds <
> jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu> wrote:
>
> I just called Criterion and it seems they are streaming to institutions.
> They charge for the MP4 and the length of time you want to stream.
>
>  
>
> Negotiate! I was able to reduce the price somewhat by buying multiple
> titles. We haven’t inked any agreement yet but I am pursuing.
>
>  
>
> Best,
>
> Jo Ann 
>
>  
>
> Jo Ann Reynolds
>
> Reserve Services Coordinator
>
> University of Connecticut Libraries
>
> 369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005RR
>
> Storrs, CT  06269-1005
>
> jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu
>
> 860-486-1406
>
> 860-486-5636 (fax)
>
> *http://classguides.lib.uconn.edu/mediaresources *
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 11, 2013 4:09 PM
> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog
>
>  
>
> It went over to Criterion Pictures USA but I am unclear if there streaming
> is set up yet. 
>
> Here is link for listing and in general I would try them for any title
> Swank used to have as there is a lot of shuffling
>
>
> http://media2.criterionpic.com/htbin/wwform/014?TEXT=R6084263-6087934-/CA/WWI770.HTM
> 
>
>  
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Linkous, Kimberly A. 
> wrote:
>
> Hello –
>
>  
>
> It seems Swank has lost the rights to this film.  Does anyone know of
> another source for streaming rights?
>
>  
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kimberly Linkous
>
> St. Louis Community College
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>  
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
> ** **
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list 

Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

[Jo Ann Reynolds]

I just called Criterion and it seems they are streaming to institutions. They 
charge for the MP4 and the length of time you want to stream.

Negotiate! I was able to reduce the price somewhat by buying multiple titles. 
We haven't inked any agreement yet but I am pursuing.

Best,
Jo Ann

Jo Ann Reynolds
Reserve Services Coordinator
University of Connecticut Libraries
369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005RR
Storrs, CT  06269-1005
jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu
860-486-1406
860-486-5636 (fax)
http://classguides.lib.uconn.edu/mediaresources



From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 4:09 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Rights - House of Sand and Fog

It went over to Criterion Pictures USA but I am unclear if there streaming is 
set up yet.
Here is link for listing and in general I would try them for any title Swank 
used to have as there is a lot of shuffling

http://media2.criterionpic.com/htbin/wwform/014?TEXT=R6084263-6087934-/CA/WWI770.HTM

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Linkous, Kimberly A. 
mailto:klink...@stlcc.edu>> wrote:
Hello -

It seems Swank has lost the rights to this film.  Does anyone know of another 
source for streaming rights?

Thank you,
Kimberly Linkous
St. Louis Community College

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.