[VIHUELA] Re: Pakistani Baroque Guitar?
My instinct would be to play one before buying it, and in fact, play the very one you intend to buy. These added bits of information you mention don't add that many bits of information, in my opinion. We know Taylor designed the guitar, we know Taylor is great, and we know luthiers of the period were great. But we know darned little about this guitar. Where was it made? Out of what materials? Don't get me wrong... What do I expect for $700.00 retail? But I really think touching the instrument would be very important. My 0.02 euros' worth of opinion...cud __ From: Franz Mechsner franz.mechs...@northumbria.ac.uk To: RALPH MAIER rkcma...@shaw.ca; Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net Cc: vihuela vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Fri, October 15, 2010 12:02:08 AM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Pakistani Baroque Guitar? Another seller of this, as it seems, with some added bits of information [1][1]http://dulcimershofar.com/Baroque-Guitar-Sellas-5-course-Taylor-p -30 16.html Franz __ Von: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu im Auftrag von RALPH MAIER Gesendet: Fr 15/10/2010 01:05 An: Luca Manassero Cc: [3]vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [VIHUELA] Re: Pakistani Baroque Guitar? Thanks for this. It may be a good opportunity for students to get into it. Anyone tried them yet? Ralph - Original Message - From: Luca Manassero [4]l...@manassero.net Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:45 pm Subject: [VIHUELA] Pakistani Baroque Guitar? To: [5]vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu Dear List, a member of the French list pointed to this German music shop: [2][6]http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_baroque_guitar.htm The Renaissance lute looks *really* awful, but the baroque guitar less so: of course will probably sound as a stringed cigar box, but who knows? (click on the guitar picture to get a lot more detailed pictures) Luca To get on or off this list see list information at [3][7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- -- References 1. [8]http://dulcimershofar.com/Baroque-Guitar-Sellas-5-course-Taylor-p-30 16.html 2. [9]http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_baroque_guitar.htm 3. [10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://dulcimershofar.com/Baroque-Guitar-Sellas-5-course-Taylor-p-30 2. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. mailto:vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. mailto:l...@manassero.net 5. mailto:vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu 6. http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_baroque_guitar.htm 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 8. http://dulcimershofar.com/Baroque-Guitar-Sellas-5-course-Taylor-p-3016.html 9. http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_baroque_guitar.htm 10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[VIHUELA] Re: Pakistani Baroque Guitar?
Yes, and for all my suspicion, I was fascinated by the array of instruments at this site. Definitely bookmarked it -- I may become a millionaire some day and have room, time, and inclination to get one of just about everything there. Still, I think for about double the price of this Baroque guitar, I think you could find a student model... cud __ From: Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net To: vihuela vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Fri, October 15, 2010 4:40:26 AM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Pakistani Baroque Guitar? Well, 6 years ago I bought a Pakistani lute: a *huge* mistake. Materials were good, but craftmanship simply horrible. The design as well had an important number of flaws. It took some deep repairing by a professional lutemaker, including replacing the soundboard entirely, to make it a playable instrument. I ended up spending the price of a student lute made by a reputable lutemaker. This guitar looks better, especially on the many pictures coming from the German website, but I agree: as for any musical instrument, I would go for a test and then eventually buy it. Of course, if the website sites offers money back, then it could be an almost hassle-free test. Luca Chris Despopoulos on 15/10/10 10.30 wrote: My instinct would be to play one before buying it, and in fact, play the very one you intend to buy. These added bits of information you mention don't add that many bits of information, in my opinion. We know Taylor designed the guitar, we know Taylor is great, and we know luthiers of the period were great. But we know darned little about this guitar. Where was it made? Out of what materials? Don't get me wrong... What do I expect for $700.00 retail? But I really think touching the instrument would be very important. My 0.02 euros' worth of opinion...cud __ From: Franz Mechsner[1]franz.mechs...@northumbria.ac.uk To: RALPH MAIER[2]rkcma...@shaw.ca; Luca Manassero[3]l...@manassero.net Cc: vihuela[4]vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Fri, October 15, 2010 12:02:08 AM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Pakistani Baroque Guitar? Another seller of this, as it seems, with some added bits of information [1][1][5]http://dulcimershofar.com/Baroque-Guitar-Sellas-5-course-Taylo r-p -30 16.html Franz __ Von: [2][6]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu im Auftrag von RALPH MAIER Gesendet: Fr 15/10/2010 01:05 An: Luca Manassero Cc: [3][7]vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [VIHUELA] Re: Pakistani Baroque Guitar? Thanks for this. It may be a good opportunity for students to get into it. Anyone tried them yet? Ralph - Original Message - From: Luca Manassero[4][8]l...@manassero.net Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:45 pm Subject: [VIHUELA] Pakistani Baroque Guitar? To: [5][9]vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu Dear List, a member of the French list pointed to this German music shop: [2][6][10]http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_baroque_guitar.htm The Renaissance lute looks *really* awful, but the baroque guitar less so: of course will probably sound as a stringed cigar box, but who knows? (click on the guitar picture to get a lot more detailed pictures) Luca To get on or off this list see list information at [3][7][11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- -- References 1. [8][12]http://dulcimershofar.com/Baroque-Guitar-Sellas-5-course-Taylor- p-30 16.html 2. [9][13]http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_baroque_guitar.htm 3. [10][14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [15]http://dulcimershofar.com/Baroque-Guitar-Sellas-5-course-Taylor-p-3 0 2. mailto:[16]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. mailto:[17]vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. mailto:[18]l...@manassero.net 5. mailto:[19]vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu 6. [20]http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_baroque_guitar.htm 7. [21]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 8. [22]http://dulcimershofar.com/Baroque-Guitar-Sellas-5-course-Taylor-p-3 016.html
[VIHUELA] Re: Pakistani Baroque Guitar?
Could be Vietnamese rather than Pakistani. Last June Jelma Almersfoot gave a link to somewhere here in Britain selling these instruments but the link is now broken. I contacted the company and several phone calls and eleven emails followed. I got the impression that the company (mainly selling other instruments like recorders) just had a couple of prototype Baroque guitars (and possibly not even fully set up). The person from the company seemed extraordinarily keen for me to see the instrument - with the option of returning it: but so keen, I was reluctant to go ahead. Without going into detail, I didn't feel entirely confident about any aspect of the exchanges with the company. It would be really interesting to actually try one. If they exist beyond a few prototypes, they may be really good value...or they may not, of course. Stuart To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[VIHUELA] Re: Pakistani Baroque Guitar?
This has been a subject of much discussion in the Lute Society committee especially as regards lutes made in Pakistan and they have been liaising with the Early Music Shop to try and resolve some of the issues. I wouldn't buy and instrument without having an opportunity to try it! Monica - Original Message - From: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com To: Chris Despopoulos despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com Cc: Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net; vihuela vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 11:40 AM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Pakistani Baroque Guitar? Could be Vietnamese rather than Pakistani. Last June Jelma Almersfoot gave a link to somewhere here in Britain selling these instruments but the link is now broken. I contacted the company and several phone calls and eleven emails followed. I got the impression that the company (mainly selling other instruments like recorders) just had a couple of prototype Baroque guitars (and possibly not even fully set up). The person from the company seemed extraordinarily keen for me to see the instrument - with the option of returning it: but so keen, I was reluctant to go ahead. Without going into detail, I didn't feel entirely confident about any aspect of the exchanges with the company. It would be really interesting to actually try one. If they exist beyond a few prototypes, they may be really good value...or they may not, of course. Stuart To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[VIHUELA] Re: Pakistani Baroque Guitar?
Thanks for this. It may be a good opportunity for students to get into it. Anyone tried them yet? Ralph - Original Message - From: Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:45 pm Subject: [VIHUELA] Pakistani Baroque Guitar? To: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Dear List, a member of the French list pointed to this German music shop: http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_baroque_guitar.htm The Renaissance lute looks *really* awful, but the baroque guitar less so: of course will probably sound as a stringed cigar box, but who knows? (click on the guitar picture to get a lot more detailed pictures) Luca To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[VIHUELA] Re: Pakistani Baroque Guitar?
Another seller of this, as it seems, with some added bits of information [1]http://dulcimershofar.com/Baroque-Guitar-Sellas-5-course-Taylor-p-30 16.html Franz __ Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu im Auftrag von RALPH MAIER Gesendet: Fr 15/10/2010 01:05 An: Luca Manassero Cc: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [VIHUELA] Re: Pakistani Baroque Guitar? Thanks for this. It may be a good opportunity for students to get into it. Anyone tried them yet? Ralph - Original Message - From: Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:45 pm Subject: [VIHUELA] Pakistani Baroque Guitar? To: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Dear List, a member of the French list pointed to this German music shop: [2]http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_baroque_guitar.htm The Renaissance lute looks *really* awful, but the baroque guitar less so: of course will probably sound as a stringed cigar box, but who knows? (click on the guitar picture to get a lot more detailed pictures) Luca To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- -- References 1. http://dulcimershofar.com/Baroque-Guitar-Sellas-5-course-Taylor-p-3016.html 2. http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_baroque_guitar.htm 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
