Re: [Viking-devel] Ubuntu PPA For Viking 1.4

2013-03-04 Thread Guilhem Bonnefille
Nice news. Two comments:

- How difficult it is to add Precise as target for the build? Precise is
the current LTS, so I think it could be usefull to provide recent viking's
package for this release.

- As I'm curious, I'm curious to read how you do that ;-)

2013/3/3 Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com



 
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[Viking-devel] translation update

2013-03-04 Thread Radek Šťastný
Hello,
I step in the translation of viking after some time and I'm not sure how to
distinguish translation of
Track and Route.
I expect that basic difference is that Track comes from device (and have
timestamps), while Route I create in viking and later save to device? If so
what is the reason to be able to create both types within viking?

Up to now I used the very common translaton trasa which covers both Track
and Route, so I have to separate the meaning somehow...

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Re: [Viking-devel] Ubuntu PPA For Viking 1.4

2013-03-04 Thread Robert Norris

  
 Nice news. Two comments: 
  
 - How difficult it is to add Precise as target for the build? Precise  
 is the current LTS, so I think it could be usefull to provide recent  
 viking's package for this release. 

It shouldn't be difficult, but one may have to multiple 'changelog' files for 
each target.

 - As I'm curious, I'm curious to read how you do that ;-) 

I mostly followed the PPA help guidelines - I have some specific notes on my 
laptop about how to build for PPA

Pre-steps:
1. Create a GPG Key
2. Sign Ubuntu code of conduct (with above key).

PPA Steps + Howto Build Ubuntu/Debian Software

3. Create your PPA area on launchpad
4. Get source code, add debian directory + modify (with 'dch'), test (debuild 
-S)  upload (with 'dput')
 

  
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Re: [Viking-devel] translation update

2013-03-04 Thread Robert Norris

 Hello, 
 I step in the translation of viking after some time and I'm not sure  
 how to distinguish translation of 
 Track and Route. 

Thank you very much for the translation efforts.

 I expect that basic difference is that Track comes from device (and  
 have timestamps), while Route I create in viking and later save to  
 device?

Generally yes.

I think of a Track as a path I've already been on, whereas a Route is a path 
I'm planning to take. 
 
 If so what is the reason to be able to create both types within viking? 

It comes from the fact that they are separate types in the GPX Specification[1]
and many (all?) GPS devices handle each type separately as well.

For example when I upload routes to my Garmin Etrex, I can follow the route via 
a navigation mode; which gives a direction and estimated time of arrival at the 
next point.
This can not be done with Tracks.
(Although there is a special 'TracBack' mode to follow a track but it's 
somewhat different).

[1] http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/0/gpx.xsd
 
 Up to now I used the very common translaton trasa which covers both  
 Track and Route, so I have to separate the meaning somehow... 

Perhaps 'cesta'[2] would be alright?

Or maybe go for more words if necessary with an interpretation of 'Planned 
Track' or similar instead.

[2] http://translate.google.com/#auto/cs/route

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[Viking-devel] translation update

2013-03-04 Thread Radek Šťastný
Hello,
yes cesta could be used but not help me :-), but I hoped I'll get
suggestion from czech users:-). I made some updates in meantime on
lanchpad, so I hope it will not be worst.

Anyhow what push me to start was your ppa for ubuntu, so thanks for all
your work.

Radek


2013/3/4 Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com


  Hello,
  I step in the translation of viking after some time and I'm not sure
  how to distinguish translation of
  Track and Route.

 Thank you very much for the translation efforts.

  I expect that basic difference is that Track comes from device (and
  have timestamps), while Route I create in viking and later save to
  device?

 Generally yes.

 I think of a Track as a path I've already been on, whereas a Route is a
 path I'm planning to take.

  If so what is the reason to be able to create both types within viking?

 It comes from the fact that they are separate types in the GPX
 Specification[1]
 and many (all?) GPS devices handle each type separately as well.

 For example when I upload routes to my Garmin Etrex, I can follow the
 route via a navigation mode; which gives a direction and estimated time of
 arrival at the next point.
 This can not be done with Tracks.
 (Although there is a special 'TracBack' mode to follow a track but it's
 somewhat different).

 [1] http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/0/gpx.xsd

  Up to now I used the very common translaton trasa which covers both
  Track and Route, so I have to separate the meaning somehow...

 Perhaps 'cesta'[2] would be alright?

 Or maybe go for more words if necessary with an interpretation of 'Planned
 Track' or similar instead.

 [2] http://translate.google.com/#auto/cs/route

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Re: [Viking-devel] translation update

2013-03-04 Thread Greg Troxel

Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com writes:

 Hello, 
 I step in the translation of viking after some time and I'm not sure  
 how to distinguish translation of 
 Track and Route. 

 Thank you very much for the translation efforts.

 I expect that basic difference is that Track comes from device (and  
 have timestamps), while Route I create in viking and later save to  
 device?

 Generally yes.

 I think of a Track as a path I've already been on, whereas a Route is
 a path I'm planning to take.

I can see the point in that distinction, but I see it as

  Track is a sequence of points that is perhaps a record of where a
  device has been.  It will typically but not always have elevations and
  timestamps.

  A route is a sequence of points that defines a way to get from here to
  there.  It's more of a recipe for getting somewhere

So I've pretty much agreed with Robert, but I find the
have-been/planning secondary to the kind of data it is.  One could
generate a track object from a route, with timestamps, to be the track
object that might be created from a person following the route.

You can think of a track as maybe having thousands of points, whereas a
route will typically have less than 10.


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