Re: File browsing in Vim
On 6/21/06, Nick Lo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Textmate, that I mentioned, also works on a Project basis and my only qualms about that approach is that I'm often jumping between projects ...eg I may open a file from one project to use in another and so on. That's what tabs are for!
Re: File browsing in Vim
Ha yeah thanks Aaron, of course but I was kind of referring to the Textmate and jEdit approaches as I've not tried the project plugin. True enough Vim has tabs now, unfortunately as I mentioned in previous posts I've been having a few small bugs with split windows in different tabs. Of course this may be a netrw issue that wouldn't apply to the the project plugin. Anyhow I'm having a go with the simpler :Ex when needed approach which I quite like. Thanks, Nick On 6/21/06, Nick Lo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Textmate, that I mentioned, also works on a Project basis and my only qualms about that approach is that I'm often jumping between projects ...eg I may open a file from one project to use in another and so on. That's what tabs are for!
Re: File browsing in Vim
Hello, * On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 07:43:19PM -0700, Suresh Govindachar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can type :find (with space) and hit tab to see the list of files in the present directory. If I know there is an 'o' in the file's name, I can type :find *o* and hit tab to see all files (in some search path that includes the present directory) with 'o' in their name; etc. Sorry I can't give you the specific details to set things up this way. Setting 'path' should be enough. 'wildignore' does also have some interesting impacts. And there is also an option, which I don't remember the name, that automatically appends the file extension when not specified. Lately, I've enhanced my plugin SearchInRuntime, (#229 on SF IIRC) to define some new commands that, like :find, search for files in 'path', and also: - ask us which file to open (if several match) - (v)split-open in a new windows the file chosen. Now, I set my 'path' on a projects basis. And quite exclusively use SearchInRuntime and a.vim to search and open my projects files. -- Luc Hermitte http://hermitte.free.fr/vim/
Re: File browsing in Vim
Nick Lo wrote: Also, after playing with the new tabs I found a bug where the 4 window split would disappear if I opened a few tabs and came back to the 4 windowed one. This was in fact the point where I asked ...well do I actually NEED the static file browser. Do you have a reproducable example for the disappearing windows? -- If R is Reverse, how come D is FORWARD? /// Bram Moolenaar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.Moolenaar.net \\\ ///sponsor Vim, vote for features -- http://www.Vim.org/sponsor/ \\\ \\\download, build and distribute -- http://www.A-A-P.org/// \\\help me help AIDS victims -- http://ICCF-Holland.org///
Re: File browsing in Vim
To further stretch the use of the Ex prompt for this, try CD_Plus.vim. On 6/20/06, Nick Lo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Matt, I did have the feeling that I could bend Vim to my old ways, but this revelation was more about realising that I wasn't using features that make Vim different from other editors. I like the fact that it's now simpler both in terms of visual clutter and use. Also, after playing with the new tabs I found a bug where the 4 window split would disappear if I opened a few tabs and came back to the 4 windowed one. This was in fact the point where I asked ...well do I actually NEED the static file browser. Cheers, Nick Nick, The article is good and illustrates a good point. However, I would like to point out that what you were origionally trying to do is very possible. The simplest way (and there are probably others) is to make a simple mapping that does all the stuff you describe (jump to the correct window, jump back to the file explorer pane, and then hit P). You could bind something like Alt-p (m-p) to do all that. This way you would never have to worry about the file being opened in the wrong window, because it's your own logic that decides the target window. --Matt On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 11:17:20AM +1000, Nick Lo wrote: After spending a frustrating evening that stretched into the night, I had one of those moments of revelation that I have a feeling all Vim users get now and again. In this case it was breaking from my previous text editor way of thinking to suddenly get the vim way of file browsing. Hardened Vim users will not see it as anything new as it's really about the using :Ex while editing rather than assigning specific windows the role of file browser. Anyway, since it really needed an image or two, I wrote it up here... http://www.ingredients.com.au/nick/2006/06/21/file-browsing-in-vim/ I hope that it will help others in the same boat. Comments welcome, Nick
Re: File browsing in Vim
Hi Bram, Yes it's reproducible: I'm using the OS X Universal binary... http://macvim.org/OSX/files/binaries/OSX10.4/Vim7.0-univ.tar.bz2 ...from... http://macvim.org/OSX/index.php and have upgraded netrw to v100. It's files reside in my .vim directory while the OS X package still has the ones it came with. - Open a horizontally split window with netrw in one and a file in the other - :tabnew - Drag and drop a file from the finder into the new tab window ...or... Drag and drop onto the Vim icon - Go back to the first tab and the netrw split will have closed leaving just the file window Note if you open a file via Vim (:e :Ex etc) in the new tab window and go back to the first tab the netrw window will still be there so this bug seems specific to drag and drop actions. Nick Nick Lo wrote: Also, after playing with the new tabs I found a bug where the 4 window split would disappear if I opened a few tabs and came back to the 4 windowed one. This was in fact the point where I asked ...well do I actually NEED the static file browser. Do you have a reproducable example for the disappearing windows? -- If R is Reverse, how come D is FORWARD? /// Bram Moolenaar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http:// www.Moolenaar.net \\\ ///sponsor Vim, vote for features -- http://www.Vim.org/ sponsor/ \\\ \\\download, build and distribute -- http://www.A-A- P.org/// \\\help me help AIDS victims -- http://ICCF- Holland.org///
Re: File browsing in Vim
Nick Lo wrote: Actually on a bit more exploration it also seems that if you: - Open that split file/netrw window - :tabnew with a new file in - Go to another OS X application - Return to Vim - Click the the split window and again the netrw window will have disappeared If you just leave the split window alone open and return to Vim from another app the window flickers/refreshes momentarily. Nick Hi Bram, Yes it's reproducible: I'm using the OS X Universal binary... http://macvim.org/OSX/files/binaries/OSX10.4/Vim7.0-univ.tar.bz2 ...from... http://macvim.org/OSX/index.php and have upgraded netrw to v100. It's files reside in my .vim directory while the OS X package still has the ones it came with. - Open a horizontally split window with netrw in one and a file in the other - :tabnew - Drag and drop a file from the finder into the new tab window ...or... Drag and drop onto the Vim icon - Go back to the first tab and the netrw split will have closed leaving just the file window Note if you open a file via Vim (:e :Ex etc) in the new tab window and go back to the first tab the netrw window will still be there so this bug seems specific to drag and drop actions. I can reproduce it. Very strange. I'll add a remark to the todo list and look into it later. -- An indication you must be a manager: You feel sorry for Dilbert's boss. /// Bram Moolenaar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.Moolenaar.net \\\ ///sponsor Vim, vote for features -- http://www.Vim.org/sponsor/ \\\ \\\download, build and distribute -- http://www.A-A-P.org/// \\\help me help AIDS victims -- http://ICCF-Holland.org///
Re: File browsing in Vim
Hi Chip, Via the GUI menu Netrw Settings/Options I see I do have: let g:netrw_fastbrowse = 0 I tried setting it to 1 (not knowing what it should be set otherwise be set to) and no change in the flicker. As I mentioned I do have v100 installed in .vim over whatever was built into the package from macvim.org Nick Nick Lo wrote: And further to that: This does not happen in the non-gui/terminal version of Vim 7 I installed last night. Nick Actually on a bit more exploration it also seems that if you: - Open that split file/netrw window - :tabnew with a new file in - Go to another OS X application - Return to Vim - Click the the split window and again the netrw window will have disappeared If you just leave the split window alone open and return to Vim from another app the window flickers/refreshes momentarily. With Fedora Core 5, I didn't see anything untoward. The window flicker/refresh could be due to a g:netrw_fastbrowse=0 -- what is yours set to? Regards, Chip Campbell
Re: File browsing in Vim
Hi Tom, I know you're probably sick of suggestions by now, but I have also spent a lot of time in the same boat as you. No, no, not sick of suggestions at all, getting suggestions was part of the reason I posted. In the end, I determined that the built-in file browser for vim (even in vim 7) doesn't work very well as a file browser window like you displayed in your blog. For me, a very good solution to your needs it the Project plugin: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=69 There's a slight learning curve to use it, but it has the following advantages: * You don't have to type some funky command to open a file in the edit window. You just move your cursor over the file name and hit return. * You can explicitly specify the pwd of a list of files, even if those files are in different directories. This can be very useful. * You can define which files are present in the Project window in an arbitrary way. * This basically gives you a project-based view of your files, similar to what you would see in an IDE like Eclipse. * Just trust me when I say that it's a terribly useful and robust plugin enables you to do exactly what you want :) If you would like to see a screenshot of what my setup looks like, then check out the following: * http://static.flickr.com/61/171982939_c636495ffc.jpg?v=0 Good luck, and have fun learning about what you can do with Vim Thanks for that run through. I had looked at it on vim.org and I used to work with something similar in jEdit. For now I'm going to try out the method of using :Ex (and :find now thanks to Suresh) where needed and see how I go with that. Textmate, that I mentioned, also works on a Project basis and my only qualms about that approach is that I'm often jumping between projects ...eg I may open a file from one project to use in another and so on. Nick
Re: File browsing in Vim
Thanks Matt, I did have the feeling that I could bend Vim to my old ways, but this revelation was more about realising that I wasn't using features that make Vim different from other editors. I like the fact that it's now simpler both in terms of visual clutter and use. Also, after playing with the new tabs I found a bug where the 4 window split would disappear if I opened a few tabs and came back to the 4 windowed one. This was in fact the point where I asked ...well do I actually NEED the static file browser. Cheers, Nick Nick, The article is good and illustrates a good point. However, I would like to point out that what you were origionally trying to do is very possible. The simplest way (and there are probably others) is to make a simple mapping that does all the stuff you describe (jump to the correct window, jump back to the file explorer pane, and then hit P). You could bind something like Alt-p (m-p) to do all that. This way you would never have to worry about the file being opened in the wrong window, because it's your own logic that decides the target window. --Matt On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 11:17:20AM +1000, Nick Lo wrote: After spending a frustrating evening that stretched into the night, I had one of those moments of revelation that I have a feeling all Vim users get now and again. In this case it was breaking from my previous text editor way of thinking to suddenly get the vim way of file browsing. Hardened Vim users will not see it as anything new as it's really about the using :Ex while editing rather than assigning specific windows the role of file browser. Anyway, since it really needed an image or two, I wrote it up here... http://www.ingredients.com.au/nick/2006/06/21/file-browsing-in-vim/ I hope that it will help others in the same boat. Comments welcome, Nick
RE: File browsing in Vim
If your main use of Ex is to find a file to open, there are more direct ways to do so. I don't recall all the options I have set, but I can type :find (with space) and hit tab to see the list of files in the present directory. If I know there is an 'o' in the file's name, I can type :find *o* and hit tab to see all files (in some search path that includes the present directory) with 'o' in their name; etc. Sorry I can't give you the specific details to set things up this way. --Suresh -Original Message- From: Nick Lo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:13 PM To: vim@vim.org Subject: Re: File browsing in Vim Thanks Matt, I did have the feeling that I could bend Vim to my old ways, but this revelation was more about realising that I wasn't using features that make Vim different from other editors. I like the fact that it's now simpler both in terms of visual clutter and use. Also, after playing with the new tabs I found a bug where the 4 window split would disappear if I opened a few tabs and came back to the 4 windowed one. This was in fact the point where I asked ...well do I actually NEED the static file browser. Cheers, Nick Nick, The article is good and illustrates a good point. However, I would like to point out that what you were origionally trying to do is very possible. The simplest way (and there are probably others) is to make a simple mapping that does all the stuff you describe (jump to the correct window, jump back to the file explorer pane, and then hit P). You could bind something like Alt-p (m-p) to do all that. This way you would never have to worry about the file being opened in the wrong window, because it's your own logic that decides the target window. --Matt On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 11:17:20AM +1000, Nick Lo wrote: After spending a frustrating evening that stretched into the night, I had one of those moments of revelation that I have a feeling all Vim users get now and again. In this case it was breaking from my previous text editor way of thinking to suddenly get the vim way of file browsing. Hardened Vim users will not see it as anything new as it's really about the using :Ex while editing rather than assigning specific windows the role of file browser. Anyway, since it really needed an image or two, I wrote it up here... http://www.ingredients.com.au/nick/2006/06/21/file-browsing-in-vim/ I hope that it will help others in the same boat. Comments welcome, Nick
Re: File browsing in Vim
Ah yes, thanks Suresh, it works for me too, very useful. Nick If your main use of Ex is to find a file to open, there are more direct ways to do so. I don't recall all the options I have set, but I can type :find (with space) and hit tab to see the list of files in the present directory. If I know there is an 'o' in the file's name, I can type :find *o* and hit tab to see all files (in some search path that includes the present directory) with 'o' in their name; etc. Sorry I can't give you the specific details to set things up this way. --Suresh -Original Message- From: Nick Lo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:13 PM To: vim@vim.org Subject: Re: File browsing in Vim Thanks Matt, I did have the feeling that I could bend Vim to my old ways, but this revelation was more about realising that I wasn't using features that make Vim different from other editors. I like the fact that it's now simpler both in terms of visual clutter and use. Also, after playing with the new tabs I found a bug where the 4 window split would disappear if I opened a few tabs and came back to the 4 windowed one. This was in fact the point where I asked ...well do I actually NEED the static file browser. Cheers, Nick Nick, The article is good and illustrates a good point. However, I would like to point out that what you were origionally trying to do is very possible. The simplest way (and there are probably others) is to make a simple mapping that does all the stuff you describe (jump to the correct window, jump back to the file explorer pane, and then hit P). You could bind something like Alt-p (m-p) to do all that. This way you would never have to worry about the file being opened in the wrong window, because it's your own logic that decides the target window. --Matt On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 11:17:20AM +1000, Nick Lo wrote: After spending a frustrating evening that stretched into the night, I had one of those moments of revelation that I have a feeling all Vim users get now and again. In this case it was breaking from my previous text editor way of thinking to suddenly get the vim way of file browsing. Hardened Vim users will not see it as anything new as it's really about the using :Ex while editing rather than assigning specific windows the role of file browser. Anyway, since it really needed an image or two, I wrote it up here... http://www.ingredients.com.au/nick/2006/06/21/file-browsing-in-vim/ I hope that it will help others in the same boat. Comments welcome, Nick
