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2006-10-01 Thread Edd Barrett

(Sorry if you recieve this twice, I don't think the first one made it
onto the list for whatever reason.)

On 26/09/06, Edd Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ill add this in as soon as I can, but university work is coming in
hard at the moment so it might not be until the weekend.


Greetings all,

Hope your enjoying your weekend.

As promised i have ammended the patch. I have run some tests as before
and uploaded them (along with the new patch) here:

http://arameus.net/users/edd/vim-test2/

All of the files with _courier.html as a suffix are with a font set
using :let html_font=courier. This sets all css/font tags to this
font and appends , monospace as a fallback incase the user does not
have that font.

Also i realized that style= in a body tag is css and replaced that
with a big old font tag around the whole text if html_use_css is not
set.

Best Regards

Edd


Re: Searching for selected text

2006-10-01 Thread Yakov Lerner

On 9/30/06, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Sometimes people ask me for a command to search for the text that is
currently visually selected.  You could add a mapping for the '/' key,
but then you lose the possibility to extend the visual area by
searching for a pattern.

Since we might need more commands in Visual mode later, and we only have
a few keys left to be used, we need to use two key combinations for
new commands in Visual mode.

I think we can start using the '' key.  Currently it doesn't do
anything.  For now we could add the commands:

/  search for the Visually selected text forward
?  same, backward


Do Ctrl-K/ Ctrl-K? do something in visual mode ?

Yakov


Re: Searching for selected text

2006-10-01 Thread Bram Moolenaar

Tony Mechelynck wrote:

 Bram Moolenaar wrote:
  Sometimes people ask me for a command to search for the text that is
  currently visually selected.  You could add a mapping for the '/' key,
  but then you lose the possibility to extend the visual area by
  searching for a pattern.
  
  Since we might need more commands in Visual mode later, and we only have
  a few keys left to be used, we need to use two key combinations for
  new commands in Visual mode.
  
  I think we can start using the '' key.  Currently it doesn't do
  anything.  For now we could add the commands:
  
  /  search for the Visually selected text forward
  ?  same, backward
  
  Is there a good alternative?
  
 
  does do something, but maybe we can do without that, since :s//~/
 does the same (repeat last substitute without the flags) -- it needs
 six keystrokes instead of one though.

 currently only does something in Normal mode, not in Visual mode.

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Re: gvim segfaulting on Solaris 10

2006-10-01 Thread Bram Moolenaar

Laurent Blume wrote:

 I built vim 7.0.110 on Solaris 10 U1 x86, fully patched, using Sun Studio 
 11 or Solaris' GCC 3.4.3. 
 Building went fine, however, test 16 failed (no output). What happens is 
 that gvim fails on startup with a segfault:
 
 $ gvim
 GTK Accessibility Module initialized
 Bonobo accessibility support initialized
 Vim: Caught deadly signal SEGV
 Vim: Finished.
 Segmentation Fault (core dumped)
 
 Just running vim works:
 
 $ vim
 
 ~  VIM - Vi IMproved
 ~
 ~   version 7.0.110

Smells like a problem in the GUI libraries.  Or it could be a compiler
optimizer bug again, try compiling without -O2.  But I guess it's the
libraries.

Does it always print those two lines when gvim starts?  I don't know
what this accessibility stuff does, but it might be worth looking into
whether it is related to the crash.

 I built it using a very simple configuration:
 
 export PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/opt/SUNWspro/bin
 
 LDFLAGS='-L/usr/sfw/lib -R/usr/sfw/lib' \
 ./configure --prefix=/opt/vim-7.0.110 \
--enable-multibyte

Is /usr/sfw a standard place for something?  Then perhaps configure
should be adjusted to check it.

 And here's the pstack of the core if it can be useful:
 $ pstack core.vim.14541
 core 'core.vim.14541' of 14541: gvim
   fd1b0557 kill (82ba9cc, 815c0b0, 1, 82bd2e8, 0, 0) + 7
   081c183a mch_exit (1) + 8a
   0815c0b0 getout   (1) + 210
   08185884 preserve_exit (8, 82ba9fc, fd1afd8f, b, 0, 82baa8c) + c4
   081bfa19  (b, 0, 82baa8c)
   fd1afd8f __sighndlr (b, 0, 82baa8c, 81bf880) + f
   fd1a6355 call_user_handler (b, 0, 82baa8c) + 22b
   fd1a64d5 sigacthandler (b, 0, 82baa8c) + bb
   --- called from signal handler with signal 11 (SIGSEGV) ---
   fcfdf908 FcHideFont (83ff0e8, 8429280, 8429268, 80468e0) + d8
   fcfe0979 FcFontSetSort (83f8be0, 804695c, 1, 83f5d58, 1, 0) + 1c9
   fcfe0d1a FcFontSort (83f8be0, 83f5d58, 1, 0, 80469a8, 83f5d58) + ca
   fd6e8043 pango_fc_font_map_get_patterns () + 157
 
 
 Any idea what's going wrong? Would it be a vim or a Solaris GNOME issue?
 
 Thanks in advance for any hint!

I don't see a Vim function in the stack trace.  It might be something in
Pango.  I've seen pango crash before.  You would have to dig into this
to find out if we can work around it.

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Re: gvim segfaulting on Solaris 10

2006-10-01 Thread Laurent Blume
Bram Moolenaar a écrit :
 Smells like a problem in the GUI libraries.  Or it could be a compiler
 optimizer bug again, try compiling without -O2.  But I guess it's the
 libraries.

Yes, you were right. After I found out that the very same binary worked
on my Solaris Express install (the -dev branch of Solaris), I had a
harder look at the most recently installed patches.
There was one for fontconfig, and the last functions called were for
fontconfig, the evidence was overwhelming, it was the culprit. Once I
had it backed out, the binary worked.

FWIW, tt's that one, out 3 days ago:
123495-02 X11 6.6.2_x86: fontconfig patch

I'm back to -01, which works.

 Does it always print those two lines when gvim starts?  I don't know
 what this accessibility stuff does, but it might be worth looking into
 whether it is related to the crash.

Yes, it's a JDS thing, it's also displayed for other GNOME apps on Solaris.

 Is /usr/sfw a standard place for something?  Then perhaps configure
 should be adjusted to check it.

On Solaris 10, it's where freetype and Xrender live, so it's needed at
build time, IIRC, because else, some dependencies won't link correctly.
Actually, I did that a while ago, and didn't try again since them, so
maybe it's not needed anymore (the .pc files should provide the correct
paths). If you want, I'll build again to confirm that.

 I don't see a Vim function in the stack trace.  It might be something in
 Pango.  I've seen pango crash before.  You would have to dig into this
 to find out if we can work around it.

Definitely not a vim issue, sorry for bothering you, I'll be sure to
open a case with Sun about that on Monday.

Thanks for your answer!

Laurent


Re: gvim segfaulting on Solaris 10

2006-10-01 Thread Laurent Blume

Ali Akcaagac a écrit :

For what reasons does gVIM require Bonobo on Solaris ?


It's not gvim asking for it, but the JDS/GNOME libs (modified by Sun for 
the accessibility stuff).


Laurent


Re: gvim segfaulting on Solaris 10

2006-10-01 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Ali Akcaagac wrote:

Hello,

For what reasons does gVIM require Bonobo on Solaris ?

mfg,

Ali Akcaagac





It's not only on Solaris. On SuSE Linux 9.3, when I build gvim for Gnome2, I 
get [...] -I/opt/gnome/include/libbonobo-2.0 [...] 
-I/opt/gnome/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 [...] on the compilation line and 
[...] -lbonoboui-2 [...] -lbonobo-2 [...] -lbonobo-activation [...] on the 
link line. I think it's GNOME stuff, seeing where the include files are 
located. Now gvim does not require GNOME either, it's just one of the 
compile-time options you can turn on.



Best regards,
Tony.


Re: gvim segfaulting on Solaris 10

2006-10-01 Thread Ali Akcaagac
On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 18:00 +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote:
 It's not only on Solaris. On SuSE Linux 9.3, when I build gvim for Gnome2, I 
 get [...] -I/opt/gnome/include/libbonobo-2.0 [...] 
 -I/opt/gnome/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 [...] on the compilation line and 
 [...] -lbonoboui-2 [...] -lbonobo-2 [...] -lbonobo-activation [...] on the 
 link line. I think it's GNOME stuff, seeing where the include files are 
 located. Now gvim does not require GNOME either, it's just one of the 
 compile-time options you can turn on.

Actually 'readelf -d gvim' will tell you exactly what libraries are
linked against it. I seriously doubt that bonobo is required for gvim,
regardless whether it's mentioned or not. This stuff usually is checked
trough pkgconfig cross dependencies or through gnome-common. I think the
best way linking against GNOME is by providing on the CFLAGS line.

-Wl,--export-dynamic

greetings,

Ali Akcaagac




Re: gvim segfaulting on Solaris 10

2006-10-01 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Ali Akcaagac wrote:

On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 18:00 +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote:
It's not only on Solaris. On SuSE Linux 9.3, when I build gvim for Gnome2, I 
get [...] -I/opt/gnome/include/libbonobo-2.0 [...] 
-I/opt/gnome/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 [...] on the compilation line and 
[...] -lbonoboui-2 [...] -lbonobo-2 [...] -lbonobo-activation [...] on the 
link line. I think it's GNOME stuff, seeing where the include files are 
located. Now gvim does not require GNOME either, it's just one of the 
compile-time options you can turn on.


Actually 'readelf -d gvim' will tell you exactly what libraries are
linked against it. I seriously doubt that bonobo is required for gvim,
regardless whether it's mentioned or not. This stuff usually is checked
trough pkgconfig cross dependencies or through gnome-common. I think the
best way linking against GNOME is by providing on the CFLAGS line.

-Wl,--export-dynamic

greetings,

Ali Akcaagac





Seeing that there is a configure option for GNOME (--enable-gnome-check) I 
tend to use that rather than a CFLAGS hack; and at the end of make, it tries 
to remove the libs one by one, then re-links with some libraries removed. 
IIUC, the bonobo libs are kept in.


readelf -d `which vim` |grep bonobo gives the following:

0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libbonoboui-2.so.0]
0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libbonobo-2.so.0]
0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libbonobo-activation.so.4]


Best regards,
Tony.


Re: gvim segfaulting on Solaris 10

2006-10-01 Thread Ali Akcaagac
On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 19:16 +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote:
  -Wl,--export-dynamic

This line tells the linker to link only necessary libraries dynamically.
Rather than linking everything. This makes files usually become smaller
and loading up much faster. This is no hack it's a valid linker
instruction.

 Seeing that there is a configure option for GNOME (--enable-gnome-check) I 
 tend to use that rather than a CFLAGS hack; and at the end of make, it tries 
 to remove the libs one by one, then re-links with some libraries removed. 
 IIUC, the bonobo libs are kept in.
 
 readelf -d `which vim` |grep bonobo gives the following:
 
 0x0001 (NEEDED)   Shared library: [libbonoboui-2.so.0]
 0x0001 (NEEDED)   Shared library: [libbonobo-2.so.0]
 0x0001 (NEEDED)   Shared library: [libbonobo-activation.so.4]

Interesting!

After grep'ing through the VIM source I really detected Bonobo Dockitems
inside it. Unfortunately that's all soon to be deprecated stuff and
should be avoided as much as possible..

Why this ?

a) BonoboUI elements are dead stuff and will be removed pretty soon.
   I only wish this stuff would have happened a few years earlier.
b) The recommended way for GNOME and GTK+ GUI's is by using GTK+ (This
   is not just my idea but a regular advise because of the fact that all
   GUI elements for GTK+ and GNOME will move inside GTK+- means
   BonoboUI and hopefully GNOMEUI components are getting removed).
c) It only adds a new load of complexity e.g. makes the VIM binary
   bulkier by depending on a lot of not necessary libraries.

greetings,

Ali Akcaagac




Re: gvim segfaulting on Solaris 10

2006-10-01 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Ali Akcaagac wrote:

On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 19:16 +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote:

-Wl,--export-dynamic


This line tells the linker to link only necessary libraries dynamically.
Rather than linking everything. This makes files usually become smaller
and loading up much faster. This is no hack it's a valid linker
instruction.

Seeing that there is a configure option for GNOME (--enable-gnome-check) I 
tend to use that rather than a CFLAGS hack; and at the end of make, it tries 
to remove the libs one by one, then re-links with some libraries removed. 
IIUC, the bonobo libs are kept in.


readelf -d `which vim` |grep bonobo gives the following:

0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libbonoboui-2.so.0]
0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libbonobo-2.so.0]
0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libbonobo-activation.so.4]


Interesting!

After grep'ing through the VIM source I really detected Bonobo Dockitems
inside it. Unfortunately that's all soon to be deprecated stuff and
should be avoided as much as possible..

Why this ?

a) BonoboUI elements are dead stuff and will be removed pretty soon.
   I only wish this stuff would have happened a few years earlier.
b) The recommended way for GNOME and GTK+ GUI's is by using GTK+ (This
   is not just my idea but a regular advise because of the fact that all
   GUI elements for GTK+ and GNOME will move inside GTK+- means
   BonoboUI and hopefully GNOMEUI components are getting removed).
c) It only adds a new load of complexity e.g. makes the VIM binary
   bulkier by depending on a lot of not necessary libraries.

greetings,

Ali Akcaagac





You can compile Vim with GTK+1 or GTK+2 without GNOME. Adding GNOME 
functionality means, among other things maybe, that gvim will automagically 
and transparently save its session (with a pseudorandom name like 
~/.gnome2/vim-WSj1NP-session.vim so it doesn't collide with your own sessions 
if any) when you close the GNOME or kde window manager.



Best regards,
Tony.


Re: Searching for selected text

2006-10-01 Thread Bram Moolenaar

Yakov Lerner wrote:

 On 9/30/06, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Sometimes people ask me for a command to search for the text that is
  currently visually selected.  You could add a mapping for the '/' key,
  but then you lose the possibility to extend the visual area by
  searching for a pattern.
 
  Since we might need more commands in Visual mode later, and we only have
  a few keys left to be used, we need to use two key combinations for
  new commands in Visual mode.
 
  I think we can start using the '' key.  Currently it doesn't do
  anything.  For now we could add the commands:
 
  /  search for the Visually selected text forward
  ?  same, backward
 
 Do Ctrl-K/ Ctrl-K? do something in visual mode ?

No, but CTRL-K is also unused in Normal mode.  Thus it's better used for
something that works both in Visual and Normal mode.

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Re: gvim segfaulting on Solaris 10

2006-10-01 Thread Bram Moolenaar

Ali Akcaagac wrote:

 After grep'ing through the VIM source I really detected Bonobo Dockitems
 inside it. Unfortunately that's all soon to be deprecated stuff and
 should be avoided as much as possible..
 
 Why this ?
 
 a) BonoboUI elements are dead stuff and will be removed pretty soon.
I only wish this stuff would have happened a few years earlier.
 b) The recommended way for GNOME and GTK+ GUI's is by using GTK+ (This
is not just my idea but a regular advise because of the fact that all
GUI elements for GTK+ and GNOME will move inside GTK+- means
BonoboUI and hopefully GNOMEUI components are getting removed).
 c) It only adds a new load of complexity e.g. makes the VIM binary
bulkier by depending on a lot of not necessary libraries.

The bonobo stuff is only used when compiling for GTK 2 with Gnome
support.  I generally discourage compiling with Gnome, it has its
problems.  This is mentioned in the Makefile.

If you compile without Gnome, which is the default, no bonobo stuff is
used by Vim.  If a bonobo library is still linked in then it's because
of a dependency.

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Re: gvim segfaulting on Solaris 10

2006-10-01 Thread Ali Akcaagac
On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 23:13 +0200, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
 The bonobo stuff is only used when compiling for GTK 2 with Gnome
 support.  I generally discourage compiling with Gnome, it has its
 problems.  This is mentioned in the Makefile.
 
 If you compile without Gnome, which is the default, no bonobo stuff is
 used by Vim.  If a bonobo library is still linked in then it's because
 of a dependency.

I do understand this. But what I tried explaining was that BonoboUI is
deprecated. That means it's dead stuff from within GNOME which should
not be used anymore (from what the developers say). So basicly there is
no need for extra GNOME GUI components anymore since the encouraged and
recommended way to do GNOME GUI is by using GTK+ GUI (from what the
developers say). The only interesting part therefore remains is the
session management.

greetings,

Ali Akcaagac




Re: gvim segfaulting on Solaris 10

2006-10-01 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Bram Moolenaar wrote:
[...]

The bonobo stuff is only used when compiling for GTK 2 with Gnome
support.  I generally discourage compiling with Gnome, it has its
problems.  This is mentioned in the Makefile.

[...]

Yes, I saw that warning, and decided to try --enable-gnome-check nevertheless, 
just to see what these problems were. None of them has bitten me yet.



Best regards,
Tony.


Re: gvim segfaulting on Solaris 10

2006-10-01 Thread Laurent Blume
Bram Moolenaar wrote:
 Is /usr/sfw a standard place for something?  Then perhaps configure
 should be adjusted to check it.

Checked that. No need anymore for it. Ir probably dated from my first
builds on the Solaris 10 beta, 2 years ago.

Laurent