Re: lost menu

2006-12-29 Thread Charles E Campbell Jr

scott wrote:


has anyone else lost the ability to get a menu by entering

:set guioptions+=m

nothing happens

i see

 4: /usr/local/share/vim/vim70/menu.vim

in :scriptnames...

no glaring errors on build (7.0.178)

i build with
export CONF_OPT_GUI='--enable-gnome-check'
in SUSE linux 10.0
 

I don't have any problems seeing a menu (I'm using Fedora Core 5, vim 
7.0.1-178).

For build options, I use

 ./configure --with-features=huge --enable-perlinterp

I commented out my usual guioptions setting (set guioptions=abegmr) and put
your (set guioptions+=m) in instead.  So, it appears likely that there's 
a permission
error associated with your being able to use gnome, since it works for 
you as root.

Hmm, are you sure you're using the same vim as root that you are as a user?
What does
 which vim
say as user and as root?

Why do you need the enable-gnome-check?  In Makefile, there's a note:

GNOME means GTK with Gnome support.  If using GTK, then GNOME will
# automatically be used if it is found.  If you have GNOME, but do not 
want to

# use it (e.g., want a GTK-only version), then use --enable-gui=gtk.

so normally if you use GTK then GNOME will automatically be used, too.

Also in the Makefile:

# Uncomment one of these lines if you have that GUI but don't want to 
use it.

# The automatic check will use another one that can be found
# Gnome is disabled by default, it may cause trouble.
...
#CONF_OPT_GUI = --enable-gnome-check

which seems to indicate that the --enable-gnome-check is causing GNOME
to be disabled, oddly enough.  No Gnome, no menu.

Regards,
Chip Campbell



Re: lost menu

2006-12-29 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Charles E Campbell Jr wrote:

scott wrote:


has anyone else lost the ability to get a menu by entering

:set guioptions+=m

nothing happens

i see

 4: /usr/local/share/vim/vim70/menu.vim

in :scriptnames...

no glaring errors on build (7.0.178)

i build with
export CONF_OPT_GUI='--enable-gnome-check'
in SUSE linux 10.0
 

I don't have any problems seeing a menu (I'm using Fedora Core 5, vim 
7.0.1-178).

For build options, I use

 ./configure --with-features=huge --enable-perlinterp

I commented out my usual guioptions setting (set guioptions=abegmr) and put
your (set guioptions+=m) in instead.  So, it appears likely that there's 
a permission
error associated with your being able to use gnome, since it works for 
you as root.

Hmm, are you sure you're using the same vim as root that you are as a user?
What does
 which vim
say as user and as root?

Why do you need the enable-gnome-check?  In Makefile, there's a note:

GNOME means GTK with Gnome support.  If using GTK, then GNOME will
# automatically be used if it is found.  If you have GNOME, but do not 
want to

# use it (e.g., want a GTK-only version), then use --enable-gui=gtk.

so normally if you use GTK then GNOME will automatically be used, too.


That paragraph is outdated. Gnome is now disabled by default. Use 
--enable-gnome-check if you want configure to include it in GTK builds if it 
finds it on your system.




Also in the Makefile:

# Uncomment one of these lines if you have that GUI but don't want to 
use it.

# The automatic check will use another one that can be found
# Gnome is disabled by default, it may cause trouble.
...
#CONF_OPT_GUI = --enable-gnome-check

which seems to indicate that the --enable-gnome-check is causing GNOME
to be disabled, oddly enough.  No Gnome, no menu.

Regards,
Chip Campbell




--enable-gnome-check causes Gnome _not_ to be disabled -- provided that you 
have Gnome and GTK, or Gnome2 and GTK2, installed. Without 
--enable-gnome-check, configure doesn't check for Gnome and doesn't include it 
even if you have it installed.



Best regards,
Tony.


Re: lost menu

2006-12-29 Thread scott
On Friday 29 December 2006 10:55, A.J.Mechelynck wrote:
 Charles E Campbell Jr wrote:
  scott wrote:
  has anyone else lost the ability to get a menu by entering
 
  :set guioptions+=m
 
  nothing happens
 
  i see
 
   4: /usr/local/share/vim/vim70/menu.vim
 
  in :scriptnames...
 
  no glaring errors on build (7.0.178)
 
  i build with
  export CONF_OPT_GUI='--enable-gnome-check'
  in SUSE linux 10.0
 
  I don't have any problems seeing a menu (I'm using Fedora Core 5, vim
  7.0.1-178).
  For build options, I use
 
   ./configure --with-features=huge --enable-perlinterp
 
  I commented out my usual guioptions setting (set guioptions=abegmr) and
  put your (set guioptions+=m) in instead.  So, it appears likely that
  there's a permission
  error associated with your being able to use gnome, since it works for
  you as root.
  Hmm, are you sure you're using the same vim as root that you are as a
  user? What does
   which vim
  say as user and as root?
 
  Why do you need the enable-gnome-check?  In Makefile, there's a note:
 
  GNOME means GTK with Gnome support.  If using GTK, then GNOME will
  # automatically be used if it is found.  If you have GNOME, but do not
  want to
  # use it (e.g., want a GTK-only version), then use --enable-gui=gtk.
 
  so normally if you use GTK then GNOME will automatically be used, too.

 That paragraph is outdated. Gnome is now disabled by default. Use
 --enable-gnome-check if you want configure to include it in GTK builds if
 it finds it on your system.

  Also in the Makefile:
 
  # Uncomment one of these lines if you have that GUI but don't want to
  use it.
  # The automatic check will use another one that can be found
  # Gnome is disabled by default, it may cause trouble.
  ...
  #CONF_OPT_GUI = --enable-gnome-check
 
  which seems to indicate that the --enable-gnome-check is causing GNOME
  to be disabled, oddly enough.  No Gnome, no menu.
 
  Regards,
  Chip Campbell

 --enable-gnome-check causes Gnome _not_ to be disabled -- provided that you
 have Gnome and GTK, or Gnome2 and GTK2, installed. Without
 --enable-gnome-check, configure doesn't check for Gnome and doesn't include
 it even if you have it installed.


 Best regards,
 Tony.

'which vim' shows as /usr/local/bin for both myself and root -- the :ver text 
indicates the same -- i have no reason to think they are different, and i 
know they both use the same .vimrc and .gvimrc -- the ones on /root are 
symbolic links to the ones on my home path -- further, :scriptnames shows
the same set of scripts loaded for both myself and root (with menu.vim
prominently mentioned)

not sure if it's related, but :ver shows a huge version with GTK2-GNOME
(not GNOME2) -- i still find it weird that i don't get a menu and root does

-- 
scott


Re: lost menu

2006-12-29 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

scott wrote:

On Friday 29 December 2006 10:55, A.J.Mechelynck wrote:

Charles E Campbell Jr wrote:

scott wrote:

has anyone else lost the ability to get a menu by entering

:set guioptions+=m

nothing happens

i see

 4: /usr/local/share/vim/vim70/menu.vim

in :scriptnames...

no glaring errors on build (7.0.178)

i build with
export CONF_OPT_GUI='--enable-gnome-check'
in SUSE linux 10.0

I don't have any problems seeing a menu (I'm using Fedora Core 5, vim
7.0.1-178).
For build options, I use

 ./configure --with-features=huge --enable-perlinterp

I commented out my usual guioptions setting (set guioptions=abegmr) and
put your (set guioptions+=m) in instead.  So, it appears likely that
there's a permission
error associated with your being able to use gnome, since it works for
you as root.
Hmm, are you sure you're using the same vim as root that you are as a
user? What does
 which vim
say as user and as root?

Why do you need the enable-gnome-check?  In Makefile, there's a note:

GNOME means GTK with Gnome support.  If using GTK, then GNOME will
# automatically be used if it is found.  If you have GNOME, but do not
want to
# use it (e.g., want a GTK-only version), then use --enable-gui=gtk.

so normally if you use GTK then GNOME will automatically be used, too.

That paragraph is outdated. Gnome is now disabled by default. Use
--enable-gnome-check if you want configure to include it in GTK builds if
it finds it on your system.


Also in the Makefile:

# Uncomment one of these lines if you have that GUI but don't want to
use it.
# The automatic check will use another one that can be found
# Gnome is disabled by default, it may cause trouble.
...
#CONF_OPT_GUI = --enable-gnome-check

which seems to indicate that the --enable-gnome-check is causing GNOME
to be disabled, oddly enough.  No Gnome, no menu.

Regards,
Chip Campbell

--enable-gnome-check causes Gnome _not_ to be disabled -- provided that you
have Gnome and GTK, or Gnome2 and GTK2, installed. Without
--enable-gnome-check, configure doesn't check for Gnome and doesn't include
it even if you have it installed.


Best regards,
Tony.


'which vim' shows as /usr/local/bin for both myself and root -- the :ver text 
indicates the same -- i have no reason to think they are different, and i 
know they both use the same .vimrc and .gvimrc -- the ones on /root are 
symbolic links to the ones on my home path -- further, :scriptnames shows

the same set of scripts loaded for both myself and root (with menu.vim
prominently mentioned)

not sure if it's related, but :ver shows a huge version with GTK2-GNOME
(not GNOME2) -- i still find it weird that i don't get a menu and root does



Does your non-root login name have read permission on 
/usr/local/share/vim/vim70/menu.vim ? Or is your vimrc not created with root 
as owner? (check either file with ls -l )



Best regards,
Tony.


Re: lost menu

2006-12-29 Thread scott
On Friday 29 December 2006 22:00, A.J.Mechelynck wrote:
 scott wrote:
  On Friday 29 December 2006 10:55, A.J.Mechelynck wrote:
  Charles E Campbell Jr wrote:
  scott wrote:
  has anyone else lost the ability to get a menu by entering
 
  :set guioptions+=m
 
  nothing happens
 
  i see
 
   4: /usr/local/share/vim/vim70/menu.vim
 
  in :scriptnames...
 
  no glaring errors on build (7.0.178)
 
  i build with
  export CONF_OPT_GUI='--enable-gnome-check'
  in SUSE linux 10.0
 
  I don't have any problems seeing a menu (I'm using Fedora Core 5, vim
  7.0.1-178).
  For build options, I use
 
   ./configure --with-features=huge --enable-perlinterp
 
  I commented out my usual guioptions setting (set guioptions=abegmr) and
  put your (set guioptions+=m) in instead.  So, it appears likely that
  there's a permission
  error associated with your being able to use gnome, since it works for
  you as root.
  Hmm, are you sure you're using the same vim as root that you are as a
  user? What does
   which vim
  say as user and as root?
 
  Why do you need the enable-gnome-check?  In Makefile, there's a note:
 
  GNOME means GTK with Gnome support.  If using GTK, then GNOME will
  # automatically be used if it is found.  If you have GNOME, but do not
  want to
  # use it (e.g., want a GTK-only version), then use --enable-gui=gtk.
 
  so normally if you use GTK then GNOME will automatically be used, too.
 
  That paragraph is outdated. Gnome is now disabled by default. Use
  --enable-gnome-check if you want configure to include it in GTK builds
  if it finds it on your system.
 
  Also in the Makefile:
 
  # Uncomment one of these lines if you have that GUI but don't want to
  use it.
  # The automatic check will use another one that can be found
  # Gnome is disabled by default, it may cause trouble.
  ...
  #CONF_OPT_GUI = --enable-gnome-check
 
  which seems to indicate that the --enable-gnome-check is causing GNOME
  to be disabled, oddly enough.  No Gnome, no menu.
 
  Regards,
  Chip Campbell
 
  --enable-gnome-check causes Gnome _not_ to be disabled -- provided that
  you have Gnome and GTK, or Gnome2 and GTK2, installed. Without
  --enable-gnome-check, configure doesn't check for Gnome and doesn't
  include it even if you have it installed.
 
 
  Best regards,
  Tony.
 
  'which vim' shows as /usr/local/bin for both myself and root -- the :ver
  text indicates the same -- i have no reason to think they are different,
  and i know they both use the same .vimrc and .gvimrc -- the ones on /root
  are symbolic links to the ones on my home path -- further, :scriptnames
  shows the same set of scripts loaded for both myself and root (with
  menu.vim prominently mentioned)
 
  not sure if it's related, but :ver shows a huge version with GTK2-GNOME
  (not GNOME2) -- i still find it weird that i don't get a menu and root
  does

 Does your non-root login name have read permission on
 /usr/local/share/vim/vim70/menu.vim ? Or is your vimrc not created with
 root as owner? (check either file with ls -l )


 Best regards,
 Tony.

menu.vim is owned by root -- i 'su' before performing the 'make install' -- 
but both group and other have read permission -- i verified by, as me, 
starting a gvim session on that very module, no problem

the real .vimrc, on my home path, is owned by me -- the sybolic link to it 
on /root is owned by root -- i have no evidence that either root or myself is 
having problems reading .vimrc -- the app is coming up fine

i did notice the font of the menu that root does see is quite small -- i would
change it to a larger font if the menus were working for both accounts and if 
i had any intention of really using the menu system

i occasionally turn the menu on when i want to see a list of available color 
schemes for choosing from, which is what i was doing when i found out i'm
not getting the menu -- can't say how many versions/patches i've gone through
before finding this out -- i use it *very* seldom -- it just bothers me that i 
can't get a menu when i ask for one now

-- 
scott


Re: lost menu

2006-12-28 Thread scott
On Tuesday 26 December 2006 11:36, scott wrote:
 has anyone else lost the ability to get a menu by entering

 :set guioptions+=m

 nothing happens

 i see

   4: /usr/local/share/vim/vim70/menu.vim

 in :scriptnames...

 no glaring errors on build (7.0.178)

 i build with
 export CONF_OPT_GUI='--enable-gnome-check'
 in SUSE linux 10.0

i just noticed when running gvim as root i see the menu

root has a symbolic link to my .vimrc and .gvimrc, so the sessions
should be the same -- as me, there's no menu -- as root, the menu's
fine -- what am i overlooking?
-- 
scott