Re: Vim stops
Marcin said: I am not sure why it get's three Z though. I'd expected to see only two of them. The last z eats the first Z, if there are an odd number of z's, as z is a prefix to two key commands. Regards, John Little -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_dev group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
vim stops
Hi, running the latest version of vim (from mercurial) I experience the following weird behaviour: 1. command /usr/local/bin/vim -nNX -u NONE 2. shift (hold on to z then simultaneosly press shift) Vim stops Ran it under valgrind but it reports: definitely lost: 0 bytes in 0 blocks Version: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4a BETA (2013 Jul 6, compiled Jul 8 2013 13:51:44) Included patches: 1-2 Dimitar --- GPG Key: 2048R/160C6FA8 2012-10-11 Dimitar Dimitrov (kurkale6ka) mitk...@yahoo.fr -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_dev group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: vim stops
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 02:05:19PM +0100, Dimitar DIMITROV wrote: Hi, running the latest version of vim (from mercurial) I experience the following weird behaviour: 1. command /usr/local/bin/vim -nNX -u NONE 2. shift (hold on to z then simultaneosly press shift) Vim stops it's a feature -- ZZ is a quit command -- see :h ZZ -- _|_ _ __|_|_ ._ o| |_(_)(_)|_| ||_)|| | -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_dev group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: vim stops
No, I didn't right ZZ but zz. It's different :) Dimitar --- GPG Key: 2048R/160C6FA8 2012-10-11 Dimitar Dimitrov (kurkale6ka) mitk...@yahoo.fr De : tooth pik toothp...@gmail.com À : vim_dev@googlegroups.com Envoyé le : Lundi 8 juillet 2013 14h36 Objet : Re: vim stops On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 02:05:19PM +0100, Dimitar DIMITROV wrote: Hi, running the latest version of vim (from mercurial) I experience the following weird behaviour: 1. command /usr/local/bin/vim -nNX -u NONE 2. shift (hold on to z then simultaneosly press shift) Vim stops it's a feature -- ZZ is a quit command -- see :h ZZ -- _|_ _ __|_|_ ._ o| |_(_)(_)|_| ||_)|| | -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_dev group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_dev group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: vim stops
1. command /usr/local/bin/vim -nNX -u NONE Bram, I looked at this and didn't remember offhand what the '-X' flag did. No wonder: 'vim --help' has no entry for that flag. But ':h startup-options' *does* say what the flag does. Please update the output of 'vim --help'. I shall now hunt for other discrepancies between 'vim --help' and ':h startup-options'. -Manny -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_dev group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: vim stops
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 02:41:11PM +0100, Dimitar DIMITROV wrote: No, I didn't right ZZ but zz. It's different :) and what about then simultaneously press shift? or maybe you have a keyboard that produces other than Z for SHIFT-z? and please don't top-post -- _|_ _ __|_|_ ._ o| |_(_)(_)|_| ||_)|| | -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_dev group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Vim stops
Resending this as apparently it wasn't clear, hope it is now Hi, running the latest version of vim (from mercurial) I experience the following weird behaviour: 1. command /usr/local/bin/vim -nNX -u NONE 2. shift explanation: press z and hold for a few seconds now while pressing z, press also shift so it results in +shift NOT ZZ or shift+z Vim stops Ran it under valgrind but it reports: definitely lost: 0 bytes in 0 blocks Version: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4a BETA (2013 Jul 6, compiled Jul 8 2013 13:51:44) Included patches: 1-2 Dimitar --- GPG Key: 2048R/160C6FA8 2012-10-11 Dimitar Dimitrov (kurkale6ka) mitk...@yahoo.fr -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_dev group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: vim stops
Manuel Ortega wrote: 1. command /usr/local/bin/vim -nNX -u NONE Bram, I looked at this and didn't remember offhand what the '-X' flag did. No wonder: 'vim --help' has no entry for that flag. But ':h startup-options' *does* say what the flag does. Please update the output of 'vim --help'. I shall now hunt for other discrepancies between 'vim --help' and ':h startup-options'. % vim --help | grep X -X Do not connect to X server Perhaps your Vim was not compiled with X11 support? -- Snoring is prohibited unless all bedroom windows are closed and securely locked. [real standing law in Massachusetts, United States of America] /// Bram Moolenaar -- b...@moolenaar.net -- http://www.Moolenaar.net \\\ ///sponsor Vim, vote for features -- http://www.Vim.org/sponsor/ \\\ \\\ an exciting new programming language -- http://www.Zimbu.org/// \\\help me help AIDS victims -- http://ICCF-Holland.org/// -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_dev group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Vim stops
On Jul 8, 2013 7:00 PM, Dimitar DIMITROV mitk...@yahoo.fr wrote: Resending this as apparently it wasn't clear, hope it is now Hi, running the latest version of vim (from mercurial) I experience the following weird behaviour: 1. command /usr/local/bin/vim -nNX -u NONE 2. shift explanation: press z and hold for a few seconds now while pressing z, press also shift so it results in +shift NOT ZZ or shift+z Vim stops Now repeat this in shell and post result here. I am absolutely sure you will see ZZ: it is what I see. If you see this bug your terminal emulator, X11 or whatever authors, but not us: quit when ZZ was received is an expected behavior and generating user input is not vim business, vim only consumes input generated by terminal emulator which in turn receives it from X server which in turn receives it from kernel (and it receives from hardware). Also what do you expect to happen if not vim exit? Ran it under valgrind but it reports: definitely lost: 0 bytes in 0 blocks Version: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4a BETA (2013 Jul 6, compiled Jul 8 2013 13:51:44) Included patches: 1-2 Dimitar --- GPG Key: 2048R/160C6FA8 2012-10-11 Dimitar Dimitrov (kurkale6ka) mitk...@yahoo.fr -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_dev group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_dev group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: vim stops
Manuel Ortega wrote: 1. command /usr/local/bin/vim -nNX -u NONE Bram, I looked at this and didn't remember offhand what the '-X' flag did. No wonder: 'vim --help' has no entry for that flag. But ':h startup-options' *does* say what the flag does. Please update the output of 'vim --help'. I shall now hunt for other discrepancies between 'vim --help' and ':h startup-options'. I think you wanted a new topic; irregardless, you appeared to have Replied to an unrelated topic (Re: vim stops). A better approach with Seamonkey, for example, is (typically) to right click on the To field and then to compose mail to. Avoids losing your new topic in an unrelated thread. You should investigate to find out what works best with your email agent. Regards, Chip Campbell -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_dev group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Vim stops
On 08/07/13 17:35, Nikolay Pavlov wrote: On Jul 8, 2013 7:00 PM, Dimitar DIMITROV mitk...@yahoo.fr mailto:mitk...@yahoo.fr wrote: Resending this as apparently it wasn't clear, hope it is now Hi, running the latest version of vim (from mercurial) I experience the following weird behaviour: 1. command /usr/local/bin/vim -nNX -u NONE 2. shift explanation: press z and hold for a few seconds now while pressing z, press also shift so it results in +shift NOT ZZ or shift+z Vim stops Now repeat this in shell and post result here. I am absolutely sure you will see ZZ: it is what I see. If you see this bug your terminal emulator, X11 or whatever authors, but not us: quit when ZZ was received is an expected behavior and generating user input is not vim business, vim only consumes input generated by terminal emulator which in turn receives it from X server which in turn receives it from kernel (and it receives from hardware). Also what do you expect to happen if not vim exit? I did the experiment, and somehow the result is different in konsole and in the Linux (text) console: Let's say I press and hold z, and while holding z I press and release Shift. in konsole: zzzzz in Linux console (i.e., the Ctrl-Alt-Fn terminal where 1 = n = 6) zz (i.e. the string of letters stops as soon as I hit Shift). Maybe Vim (in an X11 terminal emulator) displays the ZZ (it may deped on the 'showcmd' setting) but then Vim exits so fast that you don't have time to see it. See :help ZZ. And the fact that you start Vim with -X doesn't mean that you aren't running under X11, it's just that in that case Vim doesn't try to use the special X11 capabilities (such as the clipboard, and the client-server feature), it still runs in a terminal emulator and _that terminal_ (xterm, konsole, mlterm, gnome-terminal, etc.) does its input and output as an X11 GUI, of which Vim has no knowledge. It is always possible to have ZZ do nothing: in 'nocompatible' mode, :map ZZ Nop will do it. Best regards, Tony. -- You too can wear a nose mitten. -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_dev group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Vim stops
On 19:07 Mon 08 Jul , Tony Mechelynck wrote: On 08/07/13 17:35, Nikolay Pavlov wrote: On Jul 8, 2013 7:00 PM, Dimitar DIMITROV mitk...@yahoo.fr mailto:mitk...@yahoo.fr wrote: Resending this as apparently it wasn't clear, hope it is now Hi, running the latest version of vim (from mercurial) I experience the following weird behaviour: 1. command /usr/local/bin/vim -nNX -u NONE 2. shift explanation: press z and hold for a few seconds now while pressing z, press also shift so it results in +shift NOT ZZ or shift+z Vim stops Now repeat this in shell and post result here. I am absolutely sure you will see ZZ: it is what I see. If you see this bug your terminal emulator, X11 or whatever authors, but not us: quit when ZZ was received is an expected behavior and generating user input is not vim business, vim only consumes input generated by terminal emulator which in turn receives it from X server which in turn receives it from kernel (and it receives from hardware). Also what do you expect to happen if not vim exit? I did the experiment, and somehow the result is different in konsole and in the Linux (text) console: Let's say I press and hold z, and while holding z I press and release Shift. in konsole: zzzzz in Linux console (i.e., the Ctrl-Alt-Fn terminal where 1 = n = 6) zz (i.e. the string of letters stops as soon as I hit Shift). Maybe Vim (in an X11 terminal emulator) displays the ZZ (it may deped on the 'showcmd' setting) but then Vim exits so fast that you don't have time to see it. See :help ZZ. And the fact that you start Vim with -X doesn't mean that you aren't running under X11, it's just that in that case Vim doesn't try to use the special X11 capabilities (such as the clipboard, and the client-server feature), it still runs in a terminal emulator and _that terminal_ (xterm, konsole, mlterm, gnome-terminal, etc.) does its input and output as an X11 GUI, of which Vim has no knowledge. It is always possible to have ZZ do nothing: in 'nocompatible' mode, :map ZZ Nop will do it. Best regards, Tony. -- You too can wear a nose mitten. -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_dev group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Another way of checking what is going on is to use the -W switch which will record keys that vim is recieving: vim -XW /tmp/keys # do the experiment cat /tmp/keys ZZZ So ineed vim is getting ZZ from the terminal emulator. I am not sure why it get's three Z though. I'd expected to see only two of them. Regards, Marcin -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_dev group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
