Re: Initializing an internal SCSI hard drive
--- Jeff Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: David Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 22, 2001 8:55 AM Subject: Initializing an internal SCSI hard drive Can someone please tell me how to do this? I just bought a 800mg Quantum hard drive for an Apple IIsi, and I can't get the computer to recognize it. I keep getting the message that the HD is locked. Thanks a million. DP Search and download Lido 7.56 formatter. This may unlock the drive, unless it's formatted with an exotic drive-initializing program. Jeff It would also help if we knew which Mac with an IDE port he's trying to use the drives in. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Format a PC IDE Drive
Black*Fire http://www.blackfire.com.au/ makes an IDE to SCSI conversion adaptor that plugs directly onto the back of an IDE device to convert it to SCSI. Unfortunately it will only fit in a 5.25 bay, even when used with a 3.5 drive. --- Norbert van Bemmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the Drive Setup patch guide linked in the FAQ has directions for hacking Drive Setup to be a universal formatter for ANY drive, not just SCSI drives. That still leaves the question if it's possible to put an IDE drive in a Vintage Mac. Anyone ever tried this? I have some nice IDE drives I could use for an experiment. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 128K and colour classic
-Original Message- From: Nick Canterucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 22, 2001 8:12 PM Subject: 128K and colour classic Hello fellow vintage mac heads.. Also does any one know anything about an upgrade in early 1984, called monster mac...? which added a second MB type board, to the mac's..giving the mac the option to connect an scsi HD... I came across one.. It seems to me that IIRC, the Monster was one of, or THE, first in the upgrade market for adding SCSI capability to the 512, in addition to adding RAM, up to a total of 4MB. Like my property of Apple Computer 512, this board is wide and fat. Mine uses a mounting known as a Killy clip. A row of tall pins surrounding the 68000 chip that the board pushes down onto. The board in mine is called a Mac Rescue. Then the board also has the slots for more RAM and the connector for the SCSI port which bolts in where the big PRAM battery used to go. Jeff -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Initializing an internal SCSI hard drive
-Original Message- From: Robert Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 23, 2001 6:11 AM Subject: Re: Initializing an internal SCSI hard drive I added Lido to my tool box. Upon checking it out I see that it will only deal with the 0 SCSI bus. Doesn't see the 1 SCSI bus. Am I missing something? Is my 8100/80 too new? TIA, -- - Bob Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you're in the HFS+ standard, it won't work. With a mid-nineties creation date, it probably IS too old to handle HFS+. Jeff -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
What is the most stable software around 8.0
I refuse to continue to play the upgrade game. I have lots of software that worked really well when I got my Power Macintosh G3, but as I have tried to keep up with the Apple OS updates, I have been having more and more problems with my other software. So, I have decided to go back to the original software that came with my computer. Since I am on a limited income, I cannot go and buy all new software everytime a new OS comes out. It really dawned on me, that the constant upgrading that goes on, is a way to sell new software. My G3 works well, and, at this point, there is really no reason to upgrade, or buy new versions of software that I already have. So, I need to know what is the most stable Mac OS software around 8.0. Actually, the version that came on the software restore disk with my G3 is 8.1. I upgraded to 8.6, and theb 9.0, and on to 9.1. The further up the ladder I got, the more computer problems I have had. So, I have decided to stay at a version that I know works, and is stable, and install my software on that OS. Some day, when I get lots of money, I will upgrade to OS X, and upgrade my software, but in the meantime, I have work to do. Anyone have any ideas? thanks, allen -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: What is the most stable software around 8.0
So, I need to know what is the most stable Mac OS software around 8.0. Actually, the version that came on the software restore disk with my G3 is 8.1. I upgraded to 8.6, 8.1 is stable and economical with RAM compared to 8.6. 8.6 is also very stable and adds firewire support and Sherlock. 9.0/9.1 is the point where you start needing to update all your applications. MJF -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Use a PC IDE Drive In Vintage Tin
--- Jeff Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are our chances we can find a nubus card that supports only one IDE drive designed for the 68040 class of Macs running that range from 20 to 40 Mhz.? Jeff Pretty much nil. There are (or were) general purpose IDE interface chips that needed an external interface to the bus. Most of them today are all integrated and can connect only to the PCI bus. If there is still a source for the standard IDE chips someone would have to design an IDE to NuBus interface and program a ROM if you wanted to boot with it or use it with extentions off. It could be done with just an extention but that wouldn't allow booting or using the drive with extentions off. Its the same thing for USB, but I doubt there's ever been a USB controller chip that _doesn't_ interface directly to PCI. NuBus USB would require a NuBusPCI bridge on the card. There may be a more general USB chip used in the embedded systems field, but I haven't checked that angle out. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Initializing an internal SCSI hard drive
--- Jeff Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Robert Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 23, 2001 6:11 AM Subject: Re: Initializing an internal SCSI hard drive I added Lido to my tool box. Upon checking it out I see that it will only deal with the 0 SCSI bus. Doesn't see the 1 SCSI bus. Am I missing something? Is my 8100/80 too new? TIA, -- - Bob Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you're in the HFS+ standard, it won't work. With a mid-nineties creation date, it probably IS too old to handle HFS+. Jeff SCSI Utils made before any Mac had a dual SCSI bus will only see Bus 0. IIRC, a dual bus didn't come along until some of the 040 based Macs. As for PowerMacs, I think either the 7100 or 8100 was the first with a dual bus, one Fast SCSI II internal only and one normal SCSI internal/external. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Wierd old external hard drive... any ideas on how to power it up?
It draws power from the serial port. But which of the 3 pin ports on the drive itself to use, hmmm? Crack the thing open and do some wire tracing from those two 3 pin ports. Maybe they're just connected together for daisy chaining power to a second drive. I wouldn't try running more than one drive or other power sucking device off the serial port though. --- Mike Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's Antiques Roadshow again... I inherited this late 80s vintage external hard drive (40MB, SCSI) , it came with a Mac Plus. It's badged as iDS Pro... which stands for Integrated Data Services Inc, of San Jose, California. The weird thing is, there is no socket for power at the back. At the back of it, apart from the normal two SCSI ports (Centronics-50), there are just two mini-DIN 8 type sockets (similar -looking to the Mac's modem/printer sockets.. perhaps a bit bigger), but with holes for only three pins, not 8... I had a look inside... can't see any obvious sign of a transformer or PSU... one of the striking things about the whole drive/case is how small it is, not much bigger than the drive itself. I guess it must have got its power through these mini-DIN ports... Anyone know how I can power this thing up? The Plus and the drive also came with a loose cable, that will fit in the back of the Plus, in the large socket next to the SCSI dB-25, which I understand is normally for an external floppy drive. The other end of this cable has a mini-DIN 3 plug, that fits perfectly in one of the two such sockets at the back of the hard drive... I guess this cable is related to the drive?? (The package did not include an external floppy drive.) Any ideas, before I ruin it with my ignorant experiments with cables? = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: non mac monitors
From: Anand Keathley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:24:36 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) Subject: non mac monitors Hi, I'm new here so I hope my questions don't sound too lame. I'm fixing up macs to give away. There are lots of LCs at my local Goodwill but no mac monitors. Can I use other monitors? What sort of adapter would I need and where can I find them cheaply? Thanks, Anand Hi Anand, If the LCs you're referring to are IIs or IIIs, they can support a VGA-type monitor (14 are all but given away these days - go for non-multisync). You'll need a Mac to VGA monitor adapter (Mac end is male, VGA end is female - this is typical) to plug it in. Griffen Technologies is famous for these types of devices, as is Belkin and (I think) Interex and Curtis. Where to get them cheaply? Aye, there's the rub! That I'd like to know as much as you. Good luck, Dana -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Use a PC IDE Drive In Vintage Tin
At 06:00 -0700 on 23/07/01, Jeff Garrison wrote: There again, we've got a too new for Vintage situation. These cards on their site won't run on anything less than OS 8, and are designed for modern Mac use. That's what they might claim, but I'm pretty sure Peter Haas over on Quadlist has gotten them working with 7.x. Ask him... What are our chances we can find a nubus card that supports only one IDE drive designed for the 68040 class of Macs running that range from 20 to 40 Mhz.? About zero. p _ the pickle The FAQ http://macfaq.binhost.com/ The Archive http://www.jmug.org/software/thepickle/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Wierd old external hard drive... any ideas on how to power it up?
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 14:37 +0100 on 23/07/01, Mike Evans wrote: The weird thing is, there is no socket for power at the back. At the back of it, apart from the normal two SCSI ports (Centronics-50), there are just two mini-DIN 8 type sockets (similar -looking to the Mac's modem/printer sockets.. perhaps a bit bigger), but with holes for only three pins, not 8... I had a look inside... can't see any obvious sign of a transformer or PSU... one of the striking things about the whole drive/case is how small it is, not much bigger than the drive itself. I guess it must have got its power through these mini-DIN ports... I bet those are power ports that an external power supply plugged into. I wouldn't plug em into the Mac serial port if I were you, mostly because the Mac serial port doesn't carry any power on it at all, so it just won't do anything (at best) or might kill the Mac (at worst). Hmm, yeah, no power on the Plus and newer serial ports until the 9pin GeoPort came along. The 128 through 512Ke had power at the serial ports. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: What is the most stable software around 8.0
At 11:37 -0700 on 23/07/01, Allen R. Kohler wrote: I refuse to continue to play the upgrade game. I have lots of software that worked really well when I got my Power Macintosh G3, but as I have tried to Wait a second. Now I can sort of understand someone thinking the 6100 is vintage, but a G3??? C'mon, really. Take it to another (much more appropriate) list. So, I need to know what is the most stable Mac OS software around 8.0. Actually, the version that came on the software restore disk with my G3 is 8.1. I upgraded to 8.6, and theb 9.0, and on to 9.1. The further up the If you have a lot of SW that doesn't work with 9.1, you probably are heavily invested in really old stuff anyway. I haven't had any problems that I couldn't fix for free, and I still use Photoshop 5 and Office 98 (probably the two biggest apps I use regularly). Ask me OFFLIST specifically about the software that is breaking under 9.1. p _ the pickle The FAQ http://macfaq.binhost.com/ The Archive http://www.jmug.org/software/thepickle/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: non mac monitors
The Belkin F3H1381 is a bit on the expensive side, but it will make dang near any monitor work on any Mac with a DB15 monitor port. It compensates for all the combinations of sysnch on green/H-V synch/composite synch plus scan frequencies. A wonderful doo-dad to have if you're teching on a pile of older Macs. --- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 15:58 + on 23/07/01, Dana Collins wrote: Where to get them cheaply? Aye, there's the rub! That I'd like to know as Define cheap. I call $10 about average. An LC isn't worth that, but $10 for a VGA adapter so you can use the monitor on a Power Mac is probably worth it. The nice thing is that once you have the adapter, you can use that monitor on just about any Mac that has an external monitor port. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Format a PC IDE Drive
At 7:16 AM -0400 7/23/2001, the pickle wrote: http://www.acard.com/ Anyone here try that for swapping an internal SCSI drive with a 10gb IDE in a vintage Mac? -- http://homepage.mac.com/stmoody/ http://www.13idol.com/mac/macfacts.html Handgun crime in Britain has increased more than 40% since the handgun ban of 1997. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
What is the most stable OS around 8.0?
What? G3 stuff here;-( Well, for what it's worth, 8.6 Anand -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Initializing an internal SCSI hard drive
Can someone please tell me how to do this? I just bought a 800mg Quantum hard drive for an Apple IIsi, and I can't get the computer to recognize it. I keep getting the message that the HD is locked. Thanks a million. DP Search and download Lido 7.56 formatter. This may unlock the drive, unless it's formatted with an exotic drive-initializing program. Jeff Finally got hard drive working. Used disc tools to initialize it. Thanks for the help. David -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: non mac monitors
From: Alex Allee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 14:23:33 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) Subject: Re: non mac monitors on 7/23/01 8:58 AM, Dana Collins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where to get them cheaply? Aye, there's the rub! That I'd like to know as much as you. Computer Geeks www.compgeeks.com has them for $1.25. I haven't bought one, but you can't really go wrong for $1.25. :) Wow! Now THAT'S a tip! Dana -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: non mac monitors
From: Anand Keathley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:34:26 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) Subject: non mac monitors Thanks for the feed back everybody. I tried, http://www.compgeeks.com but things froze up. I'll make a few adjustments and try again. So, the original LC/ Performa 400, can not use VGA? Any IIs that can? There is a IIcx for cheap, but, alas, no monitor again. Thanks, Anand The others can correct me if I'm mistaken, but, no, the original LC does not support VGA, and the IIcx definitely does not: that one I tried. Dana -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
