Ram for IIsi

[David Price]

What type/size of memory chip do I need for a IIsi? Many thanks.

dprice



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Re: Ram for IIsi

[Cameron Kaiser]

> What type/size of memory chip do I need for a IIsi? Many thanks.

30-pin non-parity SIMMs will do fine. I forget the precise speed, but 30-pin
RAM is cheap and people are just about giving it away to get rid of it and
I haven't found any functioning SIMM that wouldn't work in my IIsi and IIcis.

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Re: AOL Instant Messenger

[Marilyn Baker]

Does anyone know where I can get a used set of PowerPoint software for OS
8.0?  I bought  a set of PowerPoint off of ebay, but when I tried to load
it, it will not load because it needs OS 7.0.  I can not afford to buy the
newer set of Power Point.

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Re: Dual-Floppy, Fanless LCII?

[Larry Russell]

>  is it safe from a 
> heat standpoint to disconnect the fan on this computer
>  if I'm not running a hard drive?

The motherboard on my LC2 croaked during a heatwave a few
weeks ago. I vote to keep the fan, at least in summer.  ;-)
I suppose you could add a heat sink to the CPU chip. 

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Re: Ram for IIsi

[Gregg Eshelman]

--- David Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What type/size of memory chip do I need for a IIsi?
> Many thanks.
> 
> dprice

Four 30 pin SIMMs from 1 to 16 meg each. They must all
be the same.

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Re: Musings

[Dan Knight]

Marten van de Kraats writes:

>>>Does Apple just want the older Macs, Apples and varied clones to just
>>>die off so we will all be forced to buy brand spanking new G4's?
>>
>>Yes.  We are the thorn in Apple's side.  Remember, Apple is just
>>another evil Korporation, and Steve Jobs is every bit as evil as Bill
>>Gates.  They're both reptiles.  We are here, loving the machines, the
>>old Macs, and showing people they don't NEED a G4...how could they
>>NOT want us out of the picture?
>>
>I'm sorry, but I don't think Apple sees us as the thorn in their 
>side. We are just a rather peculiar set of customers (most of us also 
>have newer macs around).

Agreed. Chrysler must feel the same way about MoPar Madness -- all those 
car junkies keeping those 1960s and early-70s cars running like new. 
Sure, Chrysler would benefit if they all bought a new Chrysler 300, but 
their mania certainly does nothing to diminish Chrysler's reputation.

I'm sure there are plenty of other analogies -- Harley owners, tube 
electronics mavens, etc.

Like the MoPar crew, it doesn't really matter to our passion for older 
Macs whether Apple loves us, hates us, or ignores us. At the very least, 
we advocate for the Mac -- new and used -- and do what we can to keep the 
installed base from shrinking.


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LC, LCII, LCIII, LCIII+

[Receipts]

Is there anyone on this list especially gifted in knowledge of these systems?


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Re: LC, LCII, LCIII, LCIII+

[William Ahearn]

--- Receipts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there anyone on this list especially gifted in
> knowledge of these systems?

Yes. But the question is misleading. Although the
machines look alike, the first two and the last two
are miles and miles and miles apart. What do you need
to know?

William

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Re: Musings

[Gary Adams]

Or they think that people will expect them to be responsible if someone else
hands out old software that they no longer wish to provide support for and
someone's computer crashes with High dollar information on it. I believe
they have stated in the dark past that they do wish people to upgrade their
systems and keep them selling new ones rather than provide support. I am
happy that Apples can be used far longer in the upgrade cycle than their
rivals "Microjunk" and "Dumbtel"'
Just a thought

-Original Message-
From: Vintage Macs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Dan Knight
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 8:59 AM
To: Vintage Macs
Subject: Re: Musings


Marten van de Kraats writes:

>>>Does Apple just want the older Macs, Apples and varied clones to just
>>>die off so we will all be forced to buy brand spanking new G4's?
>>
>>Yes.  We are the thorn in Apple's side.  Remember, Apple is just
>>another evil Korporation, and Steve Jobs is every bit as evil as Bill
>>Gates.  They're both reptiles.  We are here, loving the machines, the
>>old Macs, and showing people they don't NEED a G4...how could they
>>NOT want us out of the picture?
>>
>I'm sorry, but I don't think Apple sees us as the thorn in their
>side. We are just a rather peculiar set of customers (most of us also
>have newer macs around).

Agreed. Chrysler must feel the same way about MoPar Madness -- all those
car junkies keeping those 1960s and early-70s cars running like new.
Sure, Chrysler would benefit if they all bought a new Chrysler 300, but
their mania certainly does nothing to diminish Chrysler's reputation.

I'm sure there are plenty of other analogies -- Harley owners, tube
electronics mavens, etc.

Like the MoPar crew, it doesn't really matter to our passion for older
Macs whether Apple loves us, hates us, or ignores us. At the very least,
we advocate for the Mac -- new and used -- and do what we can to keep the
installed base from shrinking.


Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
  publisher, Low End Mac
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  publisher, Digigraphica

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Old cars VS old Macs. Re: Musings

[Gregg Eshelman]

The difference with Ford, GM and MoPar is they are
actively persuing owners of their "classics" with
plenty of parts and services for the more popular
models. You can go into any Ford dealer and order
many parts for an old Mustang, even a complete
engine. You can't call up Apple and order all the
innards of an LCIII. (Unless you are the original
owner of the Performa variant in California.)

--- Dan Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Agreed. Chrysler must feel the same way about MoPar
> Madness -- all those 
> car junkies keeping those 1960s and early-70s cars
> running like new. 
> Sure, Chrysler would benefit if they all bought a
> new Chrysler 300, but 
> their mania certainly does nothing to diminish
> Chrysler's reputation.
> 
> I'm sure there are plenty of other analogies --
> Harley owners, tube 
> electronics mavens, etc.
> 
> Like the MoPar crew, it doesn't really matter to our
> passion for older 
> Macs whether Apple loves us, hates us, or ignores
> us. At the very least, 
> we advocate for the Mac -- new and used -- and do
> what we can to keep the 
> installed base from shrinking.


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Re: AOL Instant Messenger

[the pickle]

At 07:37 -0500 on 24/08/01, Marilyn Baker wrote:

>Does anyone know where I can get a used set of PowerPoint software for OS
>8.0?  I bought  a set of PowerPoint off of ebay, but when I tried to load

What version do you have now?

When did OS 8 and PowerPoint 98 become on-topic for this list?

The older PP I know of for *sure* that will run on OS 8 is PowerPoint 98,
part of Office 98.

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Re: Ram for IIsi

[the pickle]

At 05:48 -0700 on 24/08/01, Cameron Kaiser wrote:

>> What type/size of memory chip do I need for a IIsi? Many thanks.
>
>30-pin non-parity SIMMs will do fine. I forget the precise speed, but 30-pin

80ns.

Parity doesn't matter.

This is also in the FAQ...

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Re: LC, LCII, LCIII, LCIII+

[the pickle]

At 12:12 -0400 on 24/08/01, Receipts wrote:

>Is there anyone on this list especially gifted in knowledge of these systems?

You called? :)

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Re: Powerbook 190 issues

[Gregg Eshelman]

--- Amber Rhea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yet another customer's computer which is, well, full
> of problems. (Aren't
> they all?) I upgraded the RAM to 24MB (thanks to Dan
> Randall for sending me
> a 16MB card!) and it really flies. Or should I say,
> flew. I was
> "downgrading" it to system 7.5.2, and after it
> finished successfully
> installing the system, it didn't want to boot
> anymore. It just gives me the
> "Sorry, a system error occurred" bomb a few seconds
> after the happy Mac.

Yup, go back to 7.5.5 after a nuke and pave on the
drive.

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Re: LC, LCII, LCIII, LCIII+

[Andrew W. Hill]

>Is there anyone on this list especially gifted in knowledge of these systems?

Whaddya need to know?
I have at least one of all of them.  Barring the III+ actually.
Peace
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Re: LC, LCII, LCIII, LCIII+

[jpero]

> Reply-to:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Vintage Macs)
> To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Vintage Macs)
> Date:  Fri, 24 Aug 2001 18:14:15 -0700
> From:  "Andrew W. Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:   Re: LC, LCII, LCIII, LCIII+

> >Is there anyone on this list especially gifted in knowledge of these systems?
> 
> Whaddya need to know?
> I have at least one of all of them.  Barring the III+ actually.

I happen to have this LCIII+/Performa 465/466.  Same logic board 
still same on LCIII EXCEPT:  CPU is rated 25 for III and cpu on III+ 
and 465/466 is 33.  Chipset is same, clock generator ditto etc.  Only 
different is setup of resistor(s) to set the clock generator output 
and different CPU rated for 25 MHz or 33.  I've hacked III to III+ 
and back.

Cheers,

Jason

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Re: Musings

[Jeff Garrison]

-Original Message-
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Date: Friday, August 24, 2001 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: Musings


 At the very least, 
>we advocate for the Mac -- new and used -- and do what we can to keep the 
>installed base from shrinking.
>
>
>Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.


We'd better advocate a little louder.

Didn't Apple marketshare just get to 3%?

Jeff


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Re: Musings

[Steve Conrad]

> At the very least,
>>we advocate for the Mac -- new and used -- and do what we can to keep the
>>installed base from shrinking.
>>
>>
>>Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.
>
>
>We'd better advocate a little louder.
>
>Didn't Apple marketshare just get to 3%?
>
>Jeff

Well, I have some old AT&T WorldNet diskettes for 68k Macs and when I
called today to ask if I could get the last ones they released for 68K Macs
I was told that at first AT&T didn't support Macs and then they did (unlike
BlueLight which always says "we are working on Mac support") and now the
LEAST they support is 601-era PowerMacs and nothing less. They don't even
have diskettes anymore, only 601-era PowerMacs.
I am gonna ask the Customer Relations Manager if any diskettes might still
exist in a warehouse (or older CDs for 68k Macs) that lowendmac.com can
stick on a website for those of us who love and still use 68k Macs.

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