Re: Performa 575, system 7.1 or 8.1 ?
System 7.1 is the best choice for any machine with a 68020 or lower, in my opinion. Bullshit. Go read the FAQ. Marten -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa 575, system 7.1 or 8.1 ?
I'm not saying 8.1 will not RUN on the Performa 575, I'm saying it's a bit heavy for the hard disk, and it'll run slowly. That is why I RECOMMEND 7.1 or lower. -- Deven In a message dated 9/8/01 6:44:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: System 7.1 is the best choice for any machine with a 68020 or lower, in my opinion. Bullshit. Go read the FAQ. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa 575, system 7.1 or 8.1 ?
Huh??? What has the 575 to do with 68020 or lower??? If 8.1 is a bit heavy for the original 575 hard disk, put in a bigger and faster one. Of course 7.1 is always faster... Marten I'm not saying 8.1 will not RUN on the Performa 575, I'm saying it's a bit heavy for the hard disk, and it'll run slowly. That is why I RECOMMEND 7.1 or lower. -- Deven System 7.1 is the best choice for any machine with a 68020 or lower, in my opinion. Bullshit. Go read the FAQ. -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Zenith EasyPC
-Original Message- From: R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, September 07, 2001 5:32 PM Subject: Zenith EasyPC Listaurians, Is there any affinity between a 512k Mac and the Zenith Easy PC (512K)? All the best, R. A. Cantrell See this last page of the 7 page nod to the EaZy PC. http://www.oz.net/~daveb/fbe_ezpc7.htm Sadly, this was a 8088-based unit, although it could have been a kindred brother to the Mac with it's little footprint. Jeff -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: nubus ethernet/firewall on IIsi to PM8100
John Oliver wrote: HI there - I own an IIsi which has a nubus ethernet card in the PDS slot (with adapter) and an 8100 (PPC) with built-in ethernet. Does anyone know if I could use the card in the IIsi in the 8100? I'd like to set up a firewall using the 8100 and need two ethernet connections to do it. I've never tried it. But, the 8100 is a NuBus PowerMac. So, your NuBus ethernet card should work. Try posting this question to the 1st-Powermacs list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lots of folks there have done network firewall setups with X100 PowerMacs. Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa 575, system 7.1 or 8.1 ?
I could be a professional mediator. :) That is, assuming my interpretation of the situation is actually right! This my interpretation: Deven said: System 7.1 is the best choice for any machine with a 68020 or lower, in my opinion. I responded: Bullshit go read the FAQ. (That is always what you tell people who are saying things that aren't (entirely) correct) Deven responded: I'm not saying 8.1 will not RUN on the Performa 575, I'm saying it's a bit heavy for the hard disk, and it'll run slowly. That is why I RECOMMEND 7.1 or lower. And that is where things go wrong. From this answer we can deduct that Deven: - doesn't know the 575 hasn't got a 68020 or lower processor. (It has a 68040). - doesn' know that you cannot run 8.1 on a 68020 or lower procesoor. - doesn't know that you cannot get any lower than 7.1 on a 575. - doesn't know the hard disk speed is not an issue, because that is quite easily fixed (easier anyway than overclocking processors) That is why I responded with: Huh??? What has the 575 to do with 68020 or lower??? If 8.1 is a bit heavy for the original 575 hard disk, put in a bigger and faster one. Of course 7.1 is always faster... Marten -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
mpg123 update
I have posted the update from Mark - here are the results: http://www.jagshouse.com/68kmp3.html thanks jag -- __ Old mac parts: http://www.jagshouse.com/sales.html http://www.jagshouse.com - all about older Macs. Get your older Mac online - blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old mac mini FAQ - blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Zenith EasyPC
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) From: Jeff Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Zenith EasyPC Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 06:27:56 -0700 -Original Message- From: R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Listaurians, Is there any affinity between a 512k Mac and the Zenith Easy PC (512K)? All the best, R. A. Cantrell See this last page of the 7 page nod to the EaZy PC. http://www.oz.net/~daveb/fbe_ezpc7.htm Sadly, this was a 8088-based unit, although it could have been a kindred brother to the Mac with it's little footprint. Jeff Yes, this is almost 8088 but it's based around SBC (small board computers) cpu that shouldn't be used. Uses Nec V40 and that means few instructions is not there that true 88/86 cpu have. Very few programs broke on it including few items that went with DOS 3.21. Strike 1. This is very few peecees to have no fan! Some stock HD based has fan on a bracket but POORLY located. The HD goes into drive B bay. Between HD and rear case there is a space for a fan if equipped. There is no vent holes cut into case rear. Some that got upgraded to HD from dual FDs didn't have fan so we add fan screwed to the vent holes from bottom. This one works also. With HD fan is a MUST so lot of them got cut and modified to have fan. Very few stock ones w/ hd and fan had to drill holes in the case to vent the fan. Strike 2. Worked on them and I owned one and don't like it very much. Computer in base get overheated and crashes. That why that fan mods is required. Had to go through few mice to find one that works. Strike 3 and OUT! Compared to compact Macs and LCIII, that pc eazy didn't feel the same appeal. Good thing I was given one brand new when I worked there for job experience in '91. No idea how much they cost when new. Good riddence that Zenith went away. Along w/ 148's slimline. Those plastic clamshell held down by two black plastic screws (yup!) low end 8088 boxen w/ no slots by default, to have it, expensive 2 slot add on is required. The chassis already have two slots openings. This one is more compatiable and faster than pc eazy. Still, everything w/ Z on them aren't standard parts to repair them they're very expensive. The PSU and monitors from Zenith used their inhouse component parts w/ their unique p/n. UGH. Cheers, Wizard -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa 575, system 7.1 or 8.1 ?
Oh, sorry, thought the Performa 575 had a 68020 for some reason. Yes, 8.1 will run fine ... but 7.1 will always be faster on this kind of machine. I really recommend 8.1 for an '040 machine. In a message dated 9/8/01 7:36:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Huh??? What has the 575 to do with 68020 or lower??? If 8.1 is a bit heavy for the original 575 hard disk, put in a bigger and faster one. Of course 7.1 is always faster... Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Speaking of Mobo Swapping..
I've got both a loaner 7100 and my IIci open, and I'm unconvinced. Yes, much of the slots are in the same place, like Terry said, but the boards are not all that much alike in my opinion. Does Apple actually say these are the same form factor? I could accept (grudgingly) that they have *similar* appearances but I'm rather doubtful of anything more than that ;-) The IIci, IIcx, Q700, C650, Q800, and 7100 are all the same mobo. The Q700 and later have an AAUI connector and the 7100 has the HDI-45 video, so obviously the back panel will require a bit of modification, but they're all the exact same layout, whether YOU believe it or not. There's no need to be snotty about this -- I just don't share your opinion. I think they're similar but I don't consider them the same. If on the other hand Apple actually says these are the same motherboard, then I'll respectfully recant. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Conceit causes more conversation than wit. -- LaRouchefoucauld - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa 575, system 7.1 or 8.1, Mystic VRAM
Using system picker or system switcher you can just install 2 operating system on the same hard disk and switch between them whenever you like... My personal experience with mac os 8 on the 68040 is that it was not very stable. I did like it on the ppc macs though... For the ppc's it was kind of a relieve after all the crashes we went through in the system 7 era. I once heard that in the darkest days of Apple's history (somewhere between 7.5 and 7.5.2) they had only 6 people or so working on the operating system... They started to get their act together again after that, and build System 7.5.3, which was a major blessing back then... It took them another 3 or 4 years to reach the pre 1990 OS stability... 1. OS 8.1 on the Hard Drive. 2. System 7.1 on a RAM disk. You could have it on a CD (which you would burn after a full installation of the OS and whatever extensions, control, panels, drivers etc. that you want to run) and copy it to your RAM disk and restart from your RAM disk (assuming you have an external CD ROM). -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa 575, system 7.1 or 8.1 ?
At 12:43 PM +0200 9/8/01, Marten van de Kraats wrote: System 7.1 is the best choice for any machine with a 68020 or lower, in my opinion. Bullshit. Go read the FAQ. Really? His opinion is in the FAQ and he got it wrong? -- --- Made with a Mac --- Can you identify this weapon? http://homepage.mac.com/stmoody/PhotoAlbum8.html --- http://homepage.mac.com/stmoody/PhotoAlbum6.html -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa 575, system 7.1 or 8.1 ?
--- Sai kee Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And for the 601, it could use 7.5 up to 8.1, with 36MB RAM, which is better ? 7.6.1, 8.1 if you want to use a large hard drive formatted HFS+. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: mpg123 update
--- JAG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have posted the update from Mark - here are the results: http://www.jagshouse.com/68kmp3.html thanks jag If it's a pure 68k app and needs an FPU it won't work on a PowerMac because Apple wimped out and Mac OS on PPC only emulates an 020, according to most 68k benchmark apps when run on a PPC. Try it on a PPC with PowerFPU or Speed Doubler. PowerFPU only provides a 68882 emulator while Speed Doubler supposedly patches over the built in Mac OS 020 emulation with something faster. I have no idea what 68k it emulates or if it does FPU emulation. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PPC upgrade for LC 575
Richard Brauer wrote: Last time I checked, the cheapest retail version I saw of any of the 601 cards was $199 IIRC. Even on eBay, they routinely go for more than $100. Strange how that goes, isn't it? These days, an '040 upgrade card will cost you more than a Quadra. A 601 upgrade card for a NuBus 68k Mac will cost you more than a NuBus PowerMac. At this rate, I suppose in a couple of years, the Sonnet G3 card in my 7100 will be worth more than a beige G3. Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC III vs. LC III+
Just clockspeed. LCIII is 25MHz, LCIII+ is 33MHz. As far as the bus width, I can't remember. But I do remember that the bus width is the same on both, and double what it is on the LC and LCII. Terry Does anyone know the definitive difference between the LC III and the LC III+. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC III vs. LC III+
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 23:50:01 -0400 From: Receipts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: LC III vs. LC III+ LC III vs. LC III+ Does anyone know the definitive difference between the LC III and the LC III+. I initially believed that the: III was a 16bit bus and a 25mhz CPU III+ was a 32bit bus and a 33mhz CPU Bad info feeding yours. Both of this are same, exact same logicboard. Only difference is in CPU rated and bus speed to suit. Both are 32bits, 25MHz or 33MHz. Cheers, Wizard -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
OT: this is funny. :)
http://www.450productions.com/url/evilzug/workit/index.html And yes, it's clean. ;) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
LC with twin floppies
I have a working LC (original), and the case has openings for two floppies. Right now it has one floppy and one hard drive. Is it possible to remove the internal hard drive and replace it with another floppy drive? I have plenty of external SCSI chassis for the HD. I read once on some site that the LC was once available in that configuration (two floppies internal), I think it said it was done for schools. Does the internal floppy controller handle two floppies? How do you get a cable to reach the second one? Does anyone know if it's possible; what you need to do to change things inside; and the parts you need. Has anyone actually done it? Thanks Will -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC with twin floppies
I have a working LC (original), and the case has openings for two floppies. Right now it has one floppy and one hard drive. Is it possible to remove the internal hard drive and replace it with another floppy drive? I have plenty of external SCSI chassis for the HD. I read once on some site that the LC was once available in that configuration (two floppies internal), I think it said it was done for schools. Does the internal floppy controller handle two floppies? How do you get a cable to reach the second one? Does anyone know if it's possible; what you need to do to change things inside; and the parts you need. Has anyone actually done it? It's easy. Just pull the HD out and stick a floppy drive in there. You may need a floppy with the little tabs to snap into the LC. There is a second floppy header on the logic board. Bing bang boom, you've got a double-barrelled LC. :) -- Alex Allee [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- * Please note new email address! * -- Visit EnigMac! Updated 07/29/2001 www.freehost.nu/members/enigmac/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC with twin floppies
-Original Message- From: Receipts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, September 08, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: LC with twin floppies I have a working LC (original), and the case has openings for two floppies. Right now it has one floppy and one hard drive. Is it possible to remove the internal hard drive and replace it with another floppy drive? I have plenty of external SCSI chassis for the HD. I read once on some site that the LC was once available in that configuration (two floppies internal), I think it said it was done for schools. Does the internal floppy controller handle two floppies? How do you get a cable to reach the second one? See my page on that at, http://www.sisp.net/~sulement/oldmacs.htm It pictures the SE and the LC I modified to run with only 2 floppy drives, no hard drive. Jeff -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
It Really IS a IIvm, pickle.....
I brought home that machine I spoke of a few weeks back. It's now mine. =^) In the section, About This Macintosh, the wording says it is a IIvm. I am going to run Tech Tool on it to see what Gestalt ID it returns. And, I'm gonna check the serial number. Right now, I'm gonna see what Apple themselves may have on this thing. Or, for that matter, anyone else out there who may have some info on a Mac that's not supposed to exist, please chip in. I want some info. Jeff -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: It Really IS a IIvm, pickle.....
I brought home that machine I spoke of a few weeks back. It's now mine. =^) In the section, About This Macintosh, the wording says it is a IIvm. I am going to run Tech Tool on it to see what Gestalt ID it returns. And, I'm gonna check the serial number. Right now, I'm gonna see what Apple themselves may have on this thing. Or, for that matter, anyone else out there who may have some info on a Mac that's not supposed to exist, please chip in. I want some info. I've seen it referred to in the old TIL a few times, but that's about it. If I remember this machine correctly, its tag is blank/rubbed off and there is no model name on the case anywhere, correct? I've gotta wonder if all Performa 600s say IIvm in ATM. Or maybe the ROM guy forgot to change it from IIvm to Performa 600 in the early models. (You are *so* fired!) Maybe you've just got an extremely rare collector's piece! :) -- Alex Allee [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- * Please note new email address! * -- Visit EnigMac! Updated 07/29/2001 www.freehost.nu/members/enigmac/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
