Re: Corrosion removal
Electronics stores used to carry spray cans of the same stuff that was used by manufacturers in their flus washing baths. But you can't get it anymore. I think it was called 1,1,1 Trichloroethane. The supposedly safe stuff that's replaced it is very harsh on human skin and you sure as heck do not want to breathe any of it. Safe my backside. :P It makes your skin itch, great wear gloves. You say don't breath it in - is it toxic, carcinogenic or both? 1,1,1-trichloroethane was banned for use as a solvent in this country in about 1998 as I remember (just after I spent a week using it in a flex-plate setting factory) as it is a quite serious toxin. I worked in the plate setting shop for several hours at a time and I often felt dazed at the end of the day, we were using gallons of 1,1,1 everyday for cleaning the rubberized plates and often just walked off to the door and stood outside to clear our heads for 5 minutes. I can tell you it ain't nice stuff. Also it is a chlorinate hydrocarbon, which means it probably doesn't do the tissue of your respiratory system any good. As to the replacement I haven't had cause to use it, I expect it's just as bad. I don't have access to either anyhow. I usually use isopropyl alcohol in a pump-spray canister. Will this shift it? I don' want to have to scrub the board as I'm afraid of damaging it. -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
LCIII - needs TLC
This battered and rusty LCIII has more than one problem, in fact it has many (not least only having 8MB RAM). One is that both the vertical clips that hold the logic board in have snapped clean off (disappointingly, making the lower chassis useless). So how the Sam Hill do I stop the logic board from sliding back into the machine? I solved this on my other LCIII machine by putting a cork shim between the fan and the front of the logic board. That one still has it's clips but they are damaged. If I did that in this one I'd be putting all the pressure on one small part of the board and fan and may damaged it. Another is that the fan is jamming on power up. It often needs a gentle tap to get it going, making it hard to use this as a closed-case machine. Any suggestions? -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LCIII - needs TLC
Mark wrote: This thing has had something spilt in it. This looks like a dishwasher job, anyone remember the key points? I suppose you're talking about the case. I don't think there were any catches or the like. Fro this list, Jack Honeycutt just put his Macs in the dishwasher and returned quite enthousiastic. Personally, I'd try not to overheat. good luck, -mart -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LCIII - needs TLC
-- From: Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) Subject: LCIII - needs TLC Date: Mon, May 13, 2002, 3:11 AM This battered and rusty LCIII has more than one problem, in fact it has many (not least only having 8MB RAM). One is that both the vertical clips that hold the logic board in have snapped clean off (disappointingly, making the lower chassis useless). So how the Sam Hill do I stop the logic board from sliding back into the machine? I solved this on my other LCIII machine by putting a cork shim between the fan and the front of the logic board. That one still has it's clips but they are damaged. If I did that in this one I'd be putting all the pressure on one small part of the board and fan and may damaged it. Another is that the fan is jamming on power up. It often needs a gentle tap to get it going, making it hard to use this as a closed-case machine. Any suggestions? -- -- Mark Benson A light, well aimed spray of WD40. This is a nothing-to-lose machine. With the clips snapped off, you have many options, not the least of which entail an entirely new case, if this is a restore-job. Or, you can secure the motherboard with pieces of foam-backed double-sided tape if it's just a toy-for-you. Jeff -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Big Problems with 1 GB HD still unsolved :(
I exclaimed: my Mac and me are still in trouble. [etc. etc.] Jeff replied: System 6 rescue disk on a System 7.5.5 OS? A universal install of System 6, togeher with some utilities, like SCSI-probe, DMM Norton. Being able to boot a IIci with that, does that sound odd to you? I had a Sony hard disk mouted externally to a Compact Mac that took hours to copy its little 20 megs of content to the Compact's internal hard drive. Mine's problem was the SCSI controller card on the back of the Sony was dying, as was the platter's media. I notice the resemblance, yes. Did you also put a Post-it over the progress bar so that progress at least becomes noticable? I got it rescued before it died. Gives hope :) You may want to hook another internal up and the troubled external, boot with a System 7.5.5 boot disk and get it copied, if it'll mount. I'll try this. Have to make one, but that's not a real problem, besides the download. So you say that an internal with OS 7.5.5 has better chances to boot a 1 GB with damaged driver software / desktop file ? Or use the System 6 disk, if it'll mount the bad drive, Nope, freezes halfway the mount. and copy, quick! Indeed. Got a fresh, empty drive standby now. Thank you enormous for your reply, Jeff. -mart 'the troubled externals' - almost sounds like a popgroup :) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Corrosion removal, as I've done it
Hi All, I'd use isopropyl alcohol and a toothbrush. Don't use acetone, toluene, xylene or spray detergent. Starting with a corner or side, loosen the crud with a toothbrush dipped in a cup of alcohol and work towards the opposite side. Flush the dirty crud laden liquid away by keeping the clean end high and use small squirts from a squirt bottle to flush debris down and away. Do both sides at once. An air hose parts cleaner nozzle can also move away the dirty liquid. Use with a respiratory mask and a set of goggles if you use compressed air to clean it. Do it outdoors. Another option is to wash the board with an alcohol filled spray bottle. Remember, the liquid will have lead salts dissolved in it, so don't forget the mask. Shower afterwards. Remember the alcohol can burn, don't get yourself so wet you can't step back from a 'problem'. (read FIRE) Don't let the fumes build up in a small room or space, as they can burn and explode. Stay away from the chlorinated solvents, as they don't remove much in the way of corroded lead or copper salts, just rosin flux and oils. They are more toxic to your liver and will stay dissolved in your body fat for years. If the part you are cleaning is loose after the cleaning, it wasn't really hooked up anyway! Let the board dry thoroughly for at least a day before you power it up. A good spot for drying, after the gross amounts of liquid are gone, is the warm spot over a television or computer monitor. What have you got to loose? kapnkid -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Big Problems with 1 GB HD still unsolved :(
At 16:27 +0200 on 13/05/02, mart wrote: I exclaimed: my Mac and me are still in trouble. [etc. etc.] Jeff replied: System 6 rescue disk on a System 7.5.5 OS? A universal install of System 6, togeher with some utilities, like SCSI-probe, DMM Norton. Being able to boot a IIci with that, does that sound odd to you? Sounds workable to me... the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Thanks Gamba re: fx rom simm
Thanks for pointing me to your web sight. I found out that the rom-simm I had was a IIfx. So I put it in my SE/30 and turned it on. I got narrow horizontal lines, and thought oh oh. But after a while it booted! Now I have a 32 bit clean SE/30. 2 question. 1. What causes the narrow horizontal lines? 2. Do you have a installing OS8.1 on your SE/30 for dummies? johnsn :-) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Big Problems with 1 GB HD still unsolved :(
Jeff: System 6 rescue disk on a System 7.5.5 OS? me: A universal install of System 6, togeher with some utilities, like SCSI-probe, DMM Norton. Being able to boot a IIci with that, does that sound odd to you? the pickle: Sounds workable to me... For booting a IIci, yes, but for mounting this sorry 1 GB piece, no. -mart -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Nearly a gross of IIci's Re: It's not hardware....
On Wednesday, May 8, 2002, at 07:10 AM, Brian Smith wrote: that freak ME out! C'mon, spill the beans! -Brian Another yarn... from the other side of the planet, in my room I have 6 pcs and 5 Macs, not many Vintage though, iP3-800 - Win2k AMDk6-500 - Win98se iP200MMX - FreeBSD iP100 - HardDiskless - PicoBSD off a floppy i486 - Win3.11 - Stand for my dead Quadra 660AV Thinkpad - Win98se - for long trips away And for some real fun PowerMac G3/233 - Beige - OSX/OS9 - wants a G4 and more Ram :) PowerMac 7300/200 - OSX/OS9 LC III - OS7.6.1 Quadra 660AV - unstable motherboard :( - Hope to save this one day. PowerBook 5300cs - OS8.1 - for short trips away 2 more macs are away at our home across the South China Sea PowerMac 7200/90 - OS8.6 LC575 - OS8.1 Don't want to risk damaging the 575 whilst shipping it here. The P3, AMDK6, P200, G3, 7300, LC III, Thinkpad and PowerBook are all networked on either BNC or UTP via a 3Com Hub, the P3 serves out the Net to everyone via a 56k USR Courier modem and a software router. ' Pardon the Brag :) -- Regards Adrian PowerMac 7300/200 OSX 10.1.3 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Thanks Gamba re: fx rom simm
There is no real dummy guide, but Gamba's site can point you to a couple of places that will allow an install with a little ResEdit hacking. I did it with my IIFX...It runs 8.1 lickety split now. Scott -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Big Problems with 1 GB HD are solved!
the Big problems with the 1 GB HD are over! I got it rescued; Under 7.5.5, SunTar didn't freeze the Mac and let me mount the bad drive. I copied everything, working at normal speeds. Then I 'washed' it's internal with HD SC Setup 7.5.3 form Gamba's place. Clean as a whistle, Sir! It will remain under close observation for a while. Thank you, list, Jeff and SunTar! -mart -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
2500 Color Stylewriter
I have several 2500 ColorStylewriter's that were used only as black ink print. Where can I get the adapter to put the color inks in it. Dale -- Caddo County Harpman - ccharpman! If you 'ain't' Country then you 'ain't' Basic.Eladicious (4,02) ADD RE to TIRED and you get ... me. X-Public School Educator. http://users.netride.net/dhill -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Huge FAQ update
Might not look like it at first but I went through the whole FAQ and updated almost everything, weeding out dead links, fixing links that have moved, etc. And on the two-year anniversary of the FAQ (technically yesterday), we have 60,000 hits. (FWIW, the counter started about six months after the first public version was uploaded, so it's off by, well, whatever six months' worth of traffic was two years ago.) THAT was a useful way to spend two hours of my night :) the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
System 6 programmers ...
Hey, System 6 programmers (all four of you), Anyone remember how the mst# resource works and/or is laid out for accepting open and quit events? -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Our policy is, when in doubt, do the right thing. -- R. L. Ash - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
