Re: Noob question #1

[simon]

On 19-jan-06, at 1:31, Martin Swartz wrote:


Hello, all -

In a previous (business) life I did a lot of support / hacking around
with Macs, mostly 1xx Powerbooks and the SE series. Those days are
gone. Now I have several questions to ask that relate to Classic Macs
as restoration projects.

In the corporate days, any one-piece Mac with flaky or failed video
was scrapped out. Today I have a Color Classic that exhibits a working
but shrunken video image. I've seen conflicting opinions about what
can cause this, ranging from "cathode ray tubes do this when they get
old" over to "the high voltage circuitry is going bad, not the CRT per
se".

What's the prevailing wisdom among this group? Can the analog
circuitry be tweaked? Does someone build "new" replacement analog
components for a reasonable price? Or is the answer "none of the
above"?



most of the times a shrunken size is caused by a broken capacitor. the 
capacitor could be short circuted or not connected. I suspect a 
electrolyth (the big ones) if the aspect ratio of the image is still ok 
(3:4) then this may be in the power section of the analog board. if it 
is only in one direction then look in the horizontal or vertical 
deflection sections. Measure in any way the voltage of the power supply 
and check with the service manual. because you still get a picture 
there wont be a transistor broken. look visually for burned resistors 
and check the capacitors in the neighbourhood. a visual good capacitor 
could still be malfunctioning.


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Re: Mac Portable HD dilemma

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On 18-dec-05, at 13:36, Macintalk Fejlesztés wrote:


On 18-dec-05, at 10:14, Macintalk Fejlesztés wrote:

I have a Mac Portable that I used back in the old days, and I have 
lots of files on it. However, it does not work anymore, because the 
battery in it is dead and it won't run off a power supply. I want to 
put the HD in another Mac to get the files off it, but the Conner HD 
in the portable is a different format (some SCSI variant) - how to 
convert it to work with a regular, desktop SCSI?


1. you can boot the portable off a powerbook 180 adapter. these are 
45Watt. remove the battery and boot.


2.The hardrive is mechanical equivalent to the 40Mb drives used in 
classics. swap the pcb on those drives to get to your data. after 
that. swap back and your classic is working again.


 Are you sure? My Classic II has an IBM drive, and the Classic I has a 
Quantum drive I think.

I do have a PB 180 adapter, I'll give it a go. Thanks!


Some classics have a connor cp4045 drive. a black rounded case. i've 
swapped a few of my portable drives with spares from classics due to 
the sticky mess used to seal the cover of the plates dripping on the 
plates and ruining the disk. At least 2 of my 4 Portables had that 
problem. I recall that the disk labels are green or red, but the 
mechanical parts are identical.
the quantum 40Mb/80Mb were used on later SE's (fdhd) and SE/30. Like 
the IIci and CX at the time. The early SE's used a Miniscribe 20Mb (i 
can recognize the sound from about 100 meters...)


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Re: Mac Portable HD dilemma

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On 18-dec-05, at 10:14, Macintalk Fejlesztés wrote:

I have a Mac Portable that I used back in the old days, and I have 
lots of files on it. However, it does not work anymore, because the 
battery in it is dead and it won't run off a power supply. I want to 
put the HD in another Mac to get the files off it, but the Conner HD 
in the portable is a different format (some SCSI variant) - how to 
convert it to work with a regular, desktop SCSI?


1. you can boot the portable off a powerbook 180 adapter. these are 
45Watt. remove the battery and boot.


2.The hardrive is mechanical equivalent to the 40Mb drives used in 
classics. swap the pcb on those drives to get to your data. after that. 
swap back and your classic is working again.


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Re: SE/30 help! (yes, the webserver one)

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On 16-dec-05, at 23:35, Manuel Marques wrote:


Hi again,

I've installed NetPresenz and connected the little fellow onto my home
network, and it went really well... ftp sharing is great!

But I still have a problem: my hard disk is called SE/30 (dunno who 
did it;
the computer was like that all the time), and that causes 404's when I 
try

to reach something via HTTP (because the server tries to create another
directory where there's nothing). I tried renaming the disk, but that 
didn't
work, because I can't rename it! My supposition is the hard disk 
driver.
When I boot my SE, it says (near the happy mac) Silverlining v. 
something -

(c) 1996 LaCie Corp.

How can I rename it without formatting the drive? Shall I start 
looking for

a floppy called silverlining?? (assuming it is the hard disk driver)



turn off filesharing and ftp, rename the disk and turn filesharing and 
ftp on again.



Greetings,


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Re: -1 On MIDI Sequencing - IIci performance enhancements

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On 9-dec-05, at 0:01, Juan Carlos De La Cruz wrote:


YAY!!

Isn´t it AMAZING the huge difference of memory consumption with what 
could be considered just "A little detail" by some?¿ ;)




no it is a address problem. 24bits could not adress more than 8Mb to 
apps. the rest (higher adresses) was "spare" and only accessable by the 
system. so actually it is "not used"...


Now the interesting question is... since the Performer version you´re 
using is not 32 bit clean... Which OS was it originally intended for? 
:D Would be nice to know.


My IIci has a Daystar ´040 accelerator, but only has 24Mb of RAM... :( 
It is on the gladly wait of some good soul to help it  ;) how much can 
it accept??


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I have a IIci with maxed out RAM and a 50MHz Daystar '030 accelerator. 
It

works pretty good except...

The MIDI sequencer I'm using on it is an old non 32-bit clean version 
of
Performer. Because it's not 32-bit clean, I have to run it in 24-bit 
mode
and System 7.1 takes about 115MB of the RAM. When in 32-bit mode the 
system

only takes 15MB.

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Re: IIfx won't boot

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On 28-nov-05, at 17:10, Eddie Roosenmaallen wrote:


Hi all,

I recently acquired a Mac IIfx. It looks to be in good shape, has the
processor, ROM, lots of RAM, etc. The problem is that it won't power
on at all - I get absolutely no response to the power key on the
keyboard or on the case itself. The power cord and all other
peripherals are known good (all were borrowed from my Power Mac).

Before I get out my multimeter and pull the power supply apart, does
anyone have any suggestions?



If you had read previous posts or searched on the web, you would have 
foud out that the battery's on the main board are dead. the voltage is 
needed to trigger the power supply.


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Re: ADB keyboard "power" button

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On 6-okt-05, at 20:08, Daniel wrote:

It was an old PowerBook something-or-other.  I think it was a 
PowerBook 540c, but I'm not sure exactly.



connect  a pushbutton between pin 2 and pin 4 (gnd) if i recall it 
right. there should be a trickle voltage of about 3 volt on pin 2. when 
shotring this, the computer starts up.



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Re: Capacitors (was Dead IIsi)

[Simon Rowlands]

I have not personally seen the capacitors in question but I wonder what the
temperature rating of the originals was rated at. In tv and video equipment
you can encounter similar problems (usually where some degree of heat is
involved).

When sourcing replacements try get "higher" temperature rated ones e.g. 105
degree or higher if poss.

Different capacitor manufacturers seem to suffer more from this. Sometimes
one lead corrodes away. Others the rubber end degrades.

On bad deposits you sometimes have to resort to using a fibre pen to make
sure the area is clean.

Overall it sounds like a poor batch of capacitors.

Simon



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> Does anyone have a theory as to why all the capacitors
> on Mac II series computers seem to have problems? I've
> seen so many IIcxs and IIcis with this problem...and
> it's probably what caused my infamous "possessed IIcx"
> incident from the summer.
> 
> Scott
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>> On Oct 5, 2005, at 7:41 AM, Mark Benson wrote:
>> 
>>> I've had this happen ion a IIci before, but
>> instead of not turning on
>>> it wouldn't turn off. The problem is caused by, as
>> Jeff stated, the
>>> electrolytic can-type Capacitors in the boards
>> leaking. In the case of
>>> the IIci I found one under the actual power supply
>> had leaked. I wiped
>>> the board down with a bit of dilute alcohol and a
>> soft cloth to get
>>> the stuff off the board and it recovered and
>> hasn't given me any
>>> trouble since.
>> 
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>> going to start as a
>> new thread! LOL! :-P
>> 
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mac batteries. Was: IIFX Power On?

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On 14-sep-05, at 1:19, Powermac wrote:


The IIfx has 2 PRAM batteries, and it will not do anything if one of 
them is

dead (had to replace one of mine a month ago, the other was newer).




i have a lot old mac's. including a complete II series.  in stead of 
buying a lot of batteries to keep them all going, i just removed the 
old ones, once they are empty. i do not place new ones, but i hacked a 
battery-holder for 4 penlights with three leads with crocodile-clamps 
so i give the mac i want to use the power it needs and remove the 
batteryholder afterwards to use it on another mac. works like a charm.



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Re: Mac IIci Trouble

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On 1-sep-05, at 19:46, Dennis Myhand wrote:


Dennis Myhand wrote:

Gregg Eshelman wrote:

To fix that, a PRAM zap will do. Hold Command, Option,
P,
and R, then hit the power button and keep holding
those
four keys until it chimes two times. (If it ever does
chime.)

This was actually one of the first things I did.  No Chime has come 
from this machine.


Just to give an update.  All the cables are connected properly and 
securely.  All chips are like-wise.  I have checked the battery, and 
it shows 3.617 volts, DC.  I have zapped the PRAM, and I have removed 
the two daughter cards from the logic board, zapped the PRAM, and 
still no chime, no start.  Does anyone have an idea of where I should 
go next, before I download a system image on my G-3 and reinstall the 
system?  Or should that simply be my next move?  Thanks, Dennis




the chimes are generated after the first hardware check and are not 
controlled by software on these machines. did you plug in headphones to 
check if the phones-socket is ok?
i suspect the capacitors. i have a portable waiting to receive new ones 
because of a power-failure and distorted sound. look around the 
capacitors for leakage of any sort.



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Re: more mac models -the end-

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On 6-jul-05, at 5:36, Scott Baret wrote:


The IIfx requires a 200 ohm terminating resistor.
Apple used to sell black terminators for the IIfx.
Thse were for external devices. I would assume that
this the internal equivalent. However, I have heard of
IIfx's using regular grey SCSI terminators and not
having a problem despite what Apple says.



this is a non apple card from eighty six thousand. i had it for years 
without noticing that it was for the special IIfx pds slot... it uses 
normal scsi terminating.



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Re: more mac models -the end-

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On 5-jul-05, at 21:49, Manuel Marques wrote:






well that's all fooks!! lets continue with chats on OLD macs. that is 
where vintage.macs is all about, is'nt it?


Question:

i have a differential scsi PDS card for my IIfx and it has a single 
ended connector what i use for the internal harddrive. What purpous was 
the differential connector? it looks the same as a normal 50p internal 
connector.



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Dead LCII

[Simon Angling]

I thought I'd try to resurrect my old LCII but it appears to be a bit dead.
When I first turned it on it made a few strange noises and then the 8-note
chime. I tested the CMOS battery which was completely dead so I replaced it
- I've read that will sometimes prevent start up.

I'm now not getting anything out of it - no sound at all. Te monitor doesn't
display anything but comes out of power-save and the fan spins up.

Any ideas what to fiddle with next to maybe coax it back to life.

Cheers,
Simon


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Re: Oh my....... Intel CPU's???

[simon]

Thinking about it, he has done this before. when NeXT computer stopped 
making hardware and NeXTSTEP became Openstep, they switched also from 
motorola to intel (or from black hardware to white.. ) before, NeXTSTEP 
could run on 4 different platforms, NeXT hardware (motorola black 
hardware), Sun supersparcs, HP 9000 series and intel pc's so the 
knoledge to make cross-platform software was in their hands. and when 
apple took over NeXT (actually Apple sold itself to NeXT... :-) you saw 
Openstep develop into Mac OS X, running on just one platform (but don't 
forget DARWIN)


so the knoledge is there

they must be testing intel hardware now for years, so there must be a 
Mac OSX around for intel...



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Re: e: 400k disks

[simon]

On 18-mrt-05, at 5:12, Thomas Burns wrote:
A related question. Since 3.5 floppies are a questionable medium for 
storing old files, has anyone archived all their old stuff? I have 
like 200 floppies of images and games and old word documents. Any 
advice for burning all that stuff to CDs?

i've used mo (magneto optical) disks to transfer data from floppy's. 
and they are ver suitable if you want to make a copy of for example a 
old harddrive like the HD20 or the HD20 SC. you can lock them so when 
transferring the data to a newer system, de data keeps intact.

for old floppies like 400k or originals (virgin copies) i use disk copy 
4.2 or disk copy 6.3 set to 4.2 format. of course allways with the 
floppy locked.

there is however a problem with copy-protected disks. disk copy cannot 
cope with them and a copy will not work.

the solution is to use a duplicate floppy as an archive, made with the 
program copy II mac, running on an old 512. be aware that it only can 
handle 400k floppy's or 79 tracks. use the bit copy. the sector copy 
will not copy the protection scheme. Also be aware that copy II mac 
does not verify the disk after copying. so use known good disks.

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Re: 400k disks

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On 17-mrt-05, at 0:56, Thomas Burns wrote:
I just picked up a Mac 512k that someone was going to turn into a 
maquarium (heaven forbid).
My question is how do I make a 400k system disk for it? Someone 
earlier told me you can make 800k disks by putting tape over the hole 
on regular 1.4mb disks. Is there any way to format a 1.4 as a 400k?


the tape trick only works for changing 1.4Mb disks to 800k. 800k disks 
don's have the extra hole.

You can format on any mac running system 6 or lower. system 7 is not 
suitable because of differences in the desktop file. of course you 
could use disk copy to put a disk imag of a 400k floppy back on a disk 
up till system 8, but don't dare to mount the disk on the desktop of a 
sys 7 and up machine. it will render the floppy unbootable on an older 
mac.

When formatting a disk on system 6 and lower you get a message if you 
want a single or doublesided disk. choose single (400k).

Then there is the question of hfs and mfs. hfs (hierarchical file 
system) is used on the mac since around the introducion of the 800k 
(double) drives. before that disks were formatted with the mfs 
(macintosh file system) which was a flat file system, with virtual 
folders. that is why it is impossible to name two files the same on one 
disk. on system 6 your disk will defenetly be hfs, unless you used a 
special key (cmd or ctrl, can't remember) to force the formatting of an 
mfs disk.

anyway, apple introduced a special pixel in a disk's window to show hfs 
or mfs. there is a double line just below the titlebar. on the left 
there is one pixel extra black between the double lines. that indicates 
hfs. no pixel: mfs. this is as far as i can remember only for system 6 
and less, probably back to system 4.1 or so.

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400k macs question

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Hello there,
is there anyone around with a bunch of 400k floppies and willing to 
send me an disk image of one of the following applications:

MacPlot 1.5 or around
smooth talker 1.x 2.x
ms basic 1.0 (i have a disk, but f*cked up the protection scheme by 
making a copy of itself using sector copying...)

are there more like me playing with 400k drives?
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info on old apps found

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there seems a good archive around at mactech!
this can come handy
http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.02/02.01/HDCompatibility/ 
index.html

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Re: Asantefast 10/100 Ethernet, Mac IIci, Sys7..5.5 + ot 1.1.2

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On 7-mrt-05, at 17:40, Scott Griffith wrote:
I'm building up a IIci for an odd application, and I have it running
nicely with an Asante 10baseT card. I'd like a little more network
bandwidth, so I just picked up an AsanteFast 10/100 NuBus card. And, of
course, it doesn't work with 7.5.5 and Open Transport 1.1.2, at least 
in
any way I can see. The Asante doc indicated that it _should_ work with
Open Transport, but a day of hacking didn't get it to happen. I'd 
rather
not downgrade to 7.5.2 and use the Classic networking with is what 
comes
with their installer.


you could use the network software selector in the apple extra's folder 
to temporary switch back to mactcp and install the stuff. the switch 
back to OT and off you go. i had it with a couple of ethernet drivers 
(sonic stuff)

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Re: Mac 512 and LaserWriter IIg questions

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On 7-mrt-05, at 15:23, Liam Proven wrote:
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 17:12:00 -0500, Thomas Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
My first question is, can you put a web server on a Mac 512k/e?
It's been done.
Go visit
http://aurejac.dyndns.org/

looking at that: i have a 512ke with a memory upgrade to 1Mb. Maybe its 
possible...
I even have a apple hard disk 20 (floppy connector)

but two floppy's is maybe more silent.
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Re: pcs-pinball construction set

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I'm still looking for the program. anyone? top part of the pictogram 
looks like a pinball in construction: soldering iron, paint brush. the 
lower part looks like an generic application icon, except that the hand 
is holding a hammer. The demo application looks like an finished 
pinball table.

and when thinking of it, i do not know if there were more versions of 
the program.

anyone?
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Re: pcs-pinball construction set

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On 1-mrt-05, at 4:53, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
--- Bryan Kattwinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you have the original on a floppy, you need to
boot from that floppy.
The program is so old that it will not even work on
System 6. I don't
know what the max system is for PCS, but it is
likely System 4.2. Also,
it will only work on a 68000 black and white compact
Mac. I had one but I sold it. Sorry.
H. Make a disk image of it then use it with the
vMac Mac Plus emulator. :)

strangly that will not work. as soon as you start a new game the ball 
is floating above the plunger, but as soon as you hit a key, the 
program is in game over mode again. :-( (the demo that is... original 
program still broken)

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Re: pcs-pinball construction set

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On 28-feb-05, at 23:34, Bryan Kattwinkel wrote:
on 2/28/05 3:30 PM, simon wrote:
i am looking for a working copy of this program. i have both the demo
and the original, but the original crashes with a error type 3 on me,
on different systems and with the demo working. so i think my pcs is
broken. it used to work a long time ago on an old miniscribe HD inside
my SE, but since then i have copied that to another drive and not used
it for a long time. playing with the demo is fun, but building even
more.
If you have the original on a floppy, you need to boot from that 
floppy.
The program is so old that it will not even work on System 6. I don't
know what the max system is for PCS, but it is likely System 4.2. Also,
it will only work on a 68000 black and white compact Mac. I had one 
but I
sold it. Sorry.


that is not true.
I had the program running from the HD on a SE running 6.0.3 when i got 
it. and besides that, the demo is running fine, except on a portable.

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pcs-pinball construction set needed

[simon]

hello all.
i am looking for a working copy of this program. i have both the demo 
and the original, but the original crashes with a error type 3 on me, 
on different systems and with the demo working. so i think my pcs is 
broken. it used to work a long time ago on an old miniscribe HD inside 
my SE, but since then i have copied that to another drive and not used 
it for a long time. playing with the demo is fun, but building even 
more.

anyone?
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Re: IIci SIMMS

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On 23-feb-05, at 18:07, Ian Nixon wrote:
Hi...
I was wondering if anyone had 8 16MB RAM Chips for the IIci that 
they'd be willing to part with.


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Re: Jackhammer SCSI termination issues, Part II (long post)

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On 20-feb-05, at 22:52, Hal Meeks wrote:
€  Internal drive: 50-pin Seagate Barracuda 2.2 GB (two partions under
System 7.1) ID set at 7 by Jackhammer Control Panel with a single SCSI
ribbon cable connecting the card to the drive.
there is your problem. the ID 7 is reserved for the scsi controller 
itself. try anything but 7. most macs use ID 0 for the internal HD, 3 
for a cd drive. i tend to give removables a id of 2 and 3, scanners 4 
ot 5 and a second internal drive 1. but thats just me...

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Re: SE battery

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On 20-feb-05, at 19:02, Ken & Anita wrote:
My Reply follows quote. On 20/02/2005 09:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Does anyone know how to change an SE battery that's soldiered in? Is 
there a
way to change it so it doesn't have to be soldiered to the board?

Thanks
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leads to the old ones. Be sure to note the polarity of the old battery
before cutting it loose!

keep in mind to leave the wire on the new battery not so short. heat 
can kill the battery more that the motherboard...

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