Re: Hard drive upgrade
Vintage Macs wrote... From: Jeff Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hard drive upgrade Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 21:28:21 -0700 -Original Message- From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: Re: Hard drive upgrade Another question (yes, I'm a mac newbie!). Is there a utilities floppy of sorts for mac? I'm looking for something that boots MacOS (or at least a usable form) and offers me basic stuff like format, partitioning, etc. Sort of like Tom's Root Boot for linux or a rescue floppy in Windows. Is there anything like that? I saw in Pickle's FAQ about booting off another hard disk to accomplish a similar task but I'm curious as to whether there's a floppy disk that accomplishes the same. -Brian If you can get your hands on a System 7.5 Disk Tools Floppy, it boots your Mac, no weird extensions required. Jeff I've found the 7.5.3 (68K) Disk Tools floppy the all-around best. Can email you a disk image of it if you want. Bob F -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Hard drive upgrade
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Set the SCSI ID to 0, pull all three ID jumpers off. You want termination enabled, might have to find termination resistor packs if the drive is older. You'll also want to set the drive to provide termination power to the bus and to itself. (Never have more than two devices providing termination power to the bus. One internal and one external, if any, is fine.) I've set the ID to 0 (I assumed since I couldn't find any jumpers on the drive that came out it was 0) and I've tried termination in all 3 positions. Let's go a little farther then... I set up the hard drive and I boot up. I get the blinking ? so I wait a little bit, then I popped in the System 7.0.1 Install disk. It boots up, but doesn't give me an option to change disk. is it possible that System 7.0.1 isn't seeing my drive even if it's set up correctly? Kudos to The Pickle... your FAQ is by far the most insightful documentation I've seen on Macs so far. I guess the next place to start looking is for a terminator. I don't have an internal one, but I have tons of external SCSI stuff including terminators. Is there anything special I have to do to use the primary HD as external? I'm assuming just set ID to 0, slap on the terminator and power up. -Brian -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Hard drive upgrade
Tell us the make and model of the drive, then I or someone can dig up a website with all the settings and tell what should work. (Unless the drive is a real old one from a long dead company that wasn't bought by some other company that is still around.) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Hard drive upgrade
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Tell us the make and model of the drive, then I or someone can dig up a website with all the settings and tell what should work. (Unless the drive is a real old one from a long dead company that wasn't bought by some other company that is still around.) It's a Seagate SCSI. I've got the jumper settings, but I can't remember the model off hand. I'll post the URL here later so maybe someone can point out the obvious that I've missed. It's got a set of jumpers to set the SCSI ID and a set to control termination. It's got 3 termination options, I think it's drive powers itself, drive powers itself and controller and controller powers itself. I've tried the jumper in all 3 positions. Another question (yes, I'm a mac newbie!). Is there a utilities floppy of sorts for mac? I'm looking for something that boots MacOS (or at least a usable form) and offers me basic stuff like format, partitioning, etc. Sort of like Tom's Root Boot for linux or a rescue floppy in Windows. Is there anything like that? I saw in Pickle's FAQ about booting off another hard disk to accomplish a similar task but I'm curious as to whether there's a floppy disk that accomplishes the same. -Brian -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Hard drive upgrade
At 09:26 -0500 on 05/09/01, Brian wrote: On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Set the SCSI ID to 0, pull all three ID jumpers off. You want termination enabled, might have to find termination resistor packs if the drive is older. You'll also want to set the drive to provide termination power to the bus and to itself. (Never have more than two devices providing termination power to the bus. One internal and one external, if any, is fine.) I've set the ID to 0 (I assumed since I couldn't find any jumpers on the drive that came out it was 0) and I've tried termination in all 3 positions. Let's go a little farther then... I set up the hard drive and I boot up. I get the blinking ? so I wait a little bit, then I popped in the System 7.0.1 Install disk. It boots up, but doesn't give me an option to change disk. is it possible that System 7.0.1 isn't seeing my drive even if it's set up correctly? Mebbe. Tried a *hacked* copy of HD SC Setup to reformat? If the drive doesn't have proper drivers on it, the Install program won't see it. Kudos to The Pickle... your FAQ is by far the most insightful documentation I've seen on Macs so far. I guess the next place to start Thanks :) looking is for a terminator. I don't have an internal one, but I have tons of external SCSI stuff including terminators. Is there anything special I have to do to use the primary HD as external? I'm assuming just set ID to 0, slap on the terminator and power up. Well, that, and put it in an external case :) The external terminators don't fit the internal cable so well :) p _ the pickle The FAQ http://macfaq.binhost.com/ The Archive http://www.jmug.org/software/thepickle/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Hard drive upgrade
At 16:31 -0500 on 04/09/01, Brian wrote: I'm new to this list and new to the world of Mac hardware. I was recently given an LC II and I've been having fun with this thing so far. I'm not really sure what I want to use it for yet, but the SCSI bus gives it some definite possibilites (networked tape drive, CD-RW, etc). The first thing I'd like to do is upgrade the hard drive. I have a 400MB SCSI that came from another mac and as I understand it the LC II is capable of much larger drives. I'm having trouble getting the mac to see my new drive. I Any chance you need to format it with the hacked version of Apple HD SC Setup? Details are in the FAQ. p _ the pickle The FAQ http://macfaq.binhost.com/ The Archive http://www.jmug.org/software/thepickle/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
