Re: Mac IIci web Server - resolved?

[classic]

"Vintage Macs"  writes:
>Hey,
>Funny you should ask about it, the problem was in the router firmware!
>I'm 
>using the Linksys BEFSR41 that I got about 2002 I think and finally
>updated 
>the firmware since I couldnt think of anything else to do.
>I've got the Mac IIci on a static IP in the DMZ with ports 21 and 80 
>forwarded to the local IP. I'm using www.no-ip.com for the name right now.
>
>If you want to send the login info I'd like to see it.
>
>Here's something weird I got back from being out of town for the weekend,
>I 
>saw in the log info it looked like someone was trying to hack into it
>using 
>some kind of DOS command. Is this Mac and my network safe from this kind
>of 
>stuff?
>
>Thomas

Sure the IP address is 24.102.95.181 

The server is running FirstClass software which is a client server
application. I don't have web browser access available as it would kill
the SE/30! So it is a bit more convoluted than normal.

The client is available as a free download from OpenText who owns the
product at, 

http://www.firstclass.com/Downloads/OldVersions/FCC_56/

There is a Mac version which will run on non OSX macs and a windows
version.

I would only install the client and not all the other junk an easy install
will toss a bunch of stuff you'll want to hunt down and kill later so use
the Custom Install and only select the client application.

Once installed, open the Settings folder and click on the file
firstclass.fc.

Click on the setup button.

In the service setup window select  TCP-IP.FCP
Fill in a user id and pw you want to use.
In the Server: line type in the IP address above.

Hit save, ignore the phone #. This will save the user id and pw in the
settings file for future use.

When you connect you will be faced with an autoreg screen, don't bother
filling out all the junk on it other than perhaps your name. 

Once I see your account I'll approve it for more access. I think I should
have the server setup so that anyone can come in and look around. If you
want to use the private mail, chat and send to conferences you'll have to
be 'approved'.

Anyhow the sw lets you conference, chat and up and download files. I have
several sessions available so it would be interesting to see just how many
people can access the old SE before it blows up.

I guess if the list owner allows it, I could even forward this list to a
folder on the server for archiving purposes.

Kevin


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Re: Mac IIci web Server - resolved?

[Thomas Burns]

Hey,
Funny you should ask about it, the problem was in the router firmware! I'm 
using the Linksys BEFSR41 that I got about 2002 I think and finally updated 
the firmware since I couldnt think of anything else to do.
I've got the Mac IIci on a static IP in the DMZ with ports 21 and 80 
forwarded to the local IP. I'm using www.no-ip.com for the name right now.

If you want to send the login info I'd like to see it.
Here's something weird I got back from being out of town for the weekend, I 
saw in the log info it looked like someone was trying to hack into it using 
some kind of DOS command. Is this Mac and my network safe from this kind of 
stuff?

Thomas
- Original Message - 
From: "classic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Vintage Macs" 
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: Mac IIci web Server - resolved?


Just curious but did you ever get your web server sorted out?
I fiddled a bit more with the FirstClass server and was able to make it
accessable through our service at home which has a dynamic IP. On the
Linksys router I put the port outside the DMZ and also pointed the
nessessary ports 23 and 510 to the IP address of the SE/30 on the network
hosting the server.
If anyone wants to play on the antique server I can post the login info on
here.
Kevin
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Re: Mac IIci web Server - resolved?

[classic]

Just curious but did you ever get your web server sorted out?

I fiddled a bit more with the FirstClass server and was able to make it
accessable through our service at home which has a dynamic IP. On the
Linksys router I put the port outside the DMZ and also pointed the
nessessary ports 23 and 510 to the IP address of the SE/30 on the network
hosting the server.

If anyone wants to play on the antique server I can post the login info on
here.

Kevin


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Re: Mac IIci web Server

[classic]

"Vintage Macs"  writes:
>I can see IIci on my LAN, and FTP files to it from my XP box.
>It is a dynamic dns service, but I have the program that updates the IP 
>every 10 mins or so.
>I have ports 80 and 8080 forwared to that machine and it's also outside
>the 
>DMZ.
>A few people on the outside have been able to hit it and someone told me 
>their security level was low on their browser. Could that have something
>to 
>do with it? Most people who hit it just get a time out.
>
>I swear I'm going to squeeze every bit of usefulness out of this IIci. lol
>
>If anyone can ping it the address it 
>http://atantavintagetravel.no-ip.info:8080
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Thomas

Have you considered running a FirstClass server on that IIci? You can have
your own bbs and controlled file access as this can run FC server 3.5.

Someone gave me an SE/30 a while back so I dug out some 16mb 30 pin chips
from a Quadra 950 and have it running 128 mb of memory. Newest system I
seem to be able to run is OS 7.5.5 but tcp/ip through our router at home
seems to be having similar problems to what you are experiencing. I'm also
using a linksys router(8 port) and put the server outside the dmz and
opened ports to that Mac. I have a feeling the problem is with the
tcp/ip-mac tcp control panels in 7.5.5 because I have no problems
accessing our FirstClass server running on OS 9.2 on a Umax clone on the
same network.

Anyhow if I peaked your curiosity you can pm me and I can give you more
info and perhaps even find someone on our network who no longer needs
their 3.5 server sw licenses and would be willing to give or sell them
real cheap.

Kevin


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Re: Mac IIci web Server

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At 6:33 PM -0500 1/12/05, Thomas Burns wrote:
I can see IIci on my LAN, and FTP files to it from my XP box.
It is a dynamic dns service, but I have the program that updates the 
IP every 10 mins or so.
I have ports 80 and 8080 forwared to that machine and it's also 
outside the DMZ.
A few people on the outside have been able to hit it and someone 
told me their security level was low on their browser. Could that 
have something to do with it? Most people who hit it just get a time 
out.

I swear I'm going to squeeze every bit of usefulness out of this IIci. lol
If anyone can ping it the address it 
http://atantavintagetravel.no-ip.info:8080
I'm not getting address resolution on atantavintagetravel.no-ip.info
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Re: Mac IIci web Server

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At 4:27 PM -0800 1/12/05, Kyle DePasquale wrote:
I was able to access the website, although in your link it says 
'atanta' instead of 'atlanta'.
Okay, atlantavintagetravel.no-ip.info resolved but no joy on the website.

Kyle DePasquale
On Jan 12, 2005, at 3:33 PM, Thomas Burns wrote:
I can see IIci on my LAN, and FTP files to it from my XP box.
It is a dynamic dns service, but I have the program that updates 
the IP every 10 mins or so.
I have ports 80 and 8080 forwared to that machine and it's also 
outside the DMZ.
A few people on the outside have been able to hit it and someone 
told me their security level was low on their browser. Could that 
have something to do with it? Most people who hit it just get a 
time out.

I swear I'm going to squeeze every bit of usefulness out of this IIci. lol
If anyone can ping it the address it 
http://atantavintagetravel.no-ip.info:8080

Thanks in advance,
Thomas

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Re: Mac IIci web Server

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At 5:14 PM -0600 1/12/05, Chris Fohl wrote:
Just a few things to consider:
a) make sure you can see it from within the LAN via the LAN IP first.
b) you have to be outside the LAN to see the WAN IP it's routed to.
c) if your router is web browser configurable you want something
other than port 80 since the router is already using it for WAN
access requests.
Maybe, some of them use a different port as a little bit of extra 
security and to keep 80 free.  And if it was using 80 the OP would 
have seen the login page.
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Re: Mac IIci web Server

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At 5:02 PM -0500 1/12/05, Thomas Burns wrote:
Does anyone know anything about hosting a website behind a Linksys router?
I have Quid Pro Quo running on a IIci, but for some reason I can't 
seem to hit the server from the world outside my LAN.
I've got port forwarding set up for 80 and 21 to go to that machine.
Your ISP may be blocking port 80 (among others).  Try setting your 
port mapping to make your web server appear at some high port number 
(1 for example) and then access that from outside 
(http://www.xyz.com:1/)
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Re: Mac IIci web Server

[Thomas Burns]

lol yeah that might be a problem
http://atlantavintagetravel.no-ip.info:8080
Thanks for checking it
Thomas
- Original Message - 
From: "Kyle DePasquale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Vintage Macs" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: Mac IIci web Server


I was able to access the website, although in your link it says 
'atanta' instead of 'atlanta'.

Kyle DePasquale
On Jan 12, 2005, at 3:33 PM, Thomas Burns wrote:
I can see IIci on my LAN, and FTP files to it from my XP box.
It is a dynamic dns service, but I have the program that updates the 
IP every 10 mins or so.
I have ports 80 and 8080 forwared to that machine and it's also 
outside the DMZ.
A few people on the outside have been able to hit it and someone told 
me their security level was low on their browser. Could that have 
something to do with it? Most people who hit it just get a time out.

I swear I'm going to squeeze every bit of usefulness out of this IIci. 
lol

If anyone can ping it the address it 
http://atantavintagetravel.no-ip.info:8080

Thanks in advance,
Thomas
- Original Message - From: "Chris Fohl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Vintage Macs" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Mac IIci web Server

Just a few things to consider:
a) make sure you can see it from within the LAN via the LAN IP first.
b) you have to be outside the LAN to see the WAN IP it's routed to.
c) if your router is web browser configurable you want something
other than port 80 since the router is already using it for WAN
access requests.
Chris
On Jan 12, 2005, at 16:02, Thomas Burns wrote:
Does anyone know anything about hosting a website behind a Linksys 
router?
I have Quid Pro Quo running on a IIci, but for some reason I can't 
seem to hit the server from the world outside my LAN.
I've got port forwarding set up for 80 and 21 to go to that machine.

Thanks!
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Re: Mac IIci web Server

[Kyle DePasquale]

I was able to access the website, although in your link it says 
'atanta' instead of 'atlanta'.

Kyle DePasquale
On Jan 12, 2005, at 3:33 PM, Thomas Burns wrote:
I can see IIci on my LAN, and FTP files to it from my XP box.
It is a dynamic dns service, but I have the program that updates the 
IP every 10 mins or so.
I have ports 80 and 8080 forwared to that machine and it's also 
outside the DMZ.
A few people on the outside have been able to hit it and someone told 
me their security level was low on their browser. Could that have 
something to do with it? Most people who hit it just get a time out.

I swear I'm going to squeeze every bit of usefulness out of this IIci. 
lol

If anyone can ping it the address it 
http://atantavintagetravel.no-ip.info:8080

Thanks in advance,
Thomas
- Original Message - From: "Chris Fohl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Vintage Macs" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Mac IIci web Server

Just a few things to consider:
a) make sure you can see it from within the LAN via the LAN IP first.
b) you have to be outside the LAN to see the WAN IP it's routed to.
c) if your router is web browser configurable you want something
other than port 80 since the router is already using it for WAN
access requests.
Chris
On Jan 12, 2005, at 16:02, Thomas Burns wrote:
Does anyone know anything about hosting a website behind a Linksys 
router?
I have Quid Pro Quo running on a IIci, but for some reason I can't 
seem to hit the server from the world outside my LAN.
I've got port forwarding set up for 80 and 21 to go to that machine.

Thanks!
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Re: Mac IIci web Server

[Thomas Burns]

I can see IIci on my LAN, and FTP files to it from my XP box.
It is a dynamic dns service, but I have the program that updates the IP 
every 10 mins or so.
I have ports 80 and 8080 forwared to that machine and it's also outside the 
DMZ.
A few people on the outside have been able to hit it and someone told me 
their security level was low on their browser. Could that have something to 
do with it? Most people who hit it just get a time out.

I swear I'm going to squeeze every bit of usefulness out of this IIci. lol
If anyone can ping it the address it 
http://atantavintagetravel.no-ip.info:8080

Thanks in advance,
Thomas
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Fohl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Vintage Macs" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Mac IIci web Server


Just a few things to consider:
a) make sure you can see it from within the LAN via the LAN IP first.
b) you have to be outside the LAN to see the WAN IP it's routed to.
c) if your router is web browser configurable you want something
other than port 80 since the router is already using it for WAN
access requests.
Chris
On Jan 12, 2005, at 16:02, Thomas Burns wrote:
Does anyone know anything about hosting a website behind a Linksys 
router?
I have Quid Pro Quo running on a IIci, but for some reason I can't seem 
to hit the server from the world outside my LAN.
I've got port forwarding set up for 80 and 21 to go to that machine.

Thanks!
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Re: Mac IIci web Server

[Kyle DePasquale]

If you're accessing it from a dynamic dns service/WAN IP, depending on 
your provider, they may be blocking port 80 to prevent viruses.  Just a 
thought.

Kyle DePasquale
On Jan 12, 2005, at 3:14 PM, Chris Fohl wrote:
Just a few things to consider:
a) make sure you can see it from within the LAN via the LAN IP first.
b) you have to be outside the LAN to see the WAN IP it's routed to.
c) if your router is web browser configurable you want something
other than port 80 since the router is already using it for WAN
access requests.
Chris
On Jan 12, 2005, at 16:02, Thomas Burns wrote:
Does anyone know anything about hosting a website behind a Linksys 
router?
I have Quid Pro Quo running on a IIci, but for some reason I can't 
seem to hit the server from the world outside my LAN.
I've got port forwarding set up for 80 and 21 to go to that machine.

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Re: Mac IIci web Server

[Ken]

My Reply follows quote. On 12/01/2005 14:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

>Does anyone know anything about hosting a website behind a Linksys router?
>I have Quid Pro Quo running on a IIci, but for some reason I can't seem to 
>hit the server from the world outside my LAN.
>I've got port forwarding set up for 80 and 21 to go to that machine.
>
>Thanks!

Don't know about "port forwarding" but I seem to recall that there
is a feature on the router where you can "open one URL to the
Internet." I think you have to set the URL of the machine you
want to provide the "service."

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Re: Mac IIci web Server

[Chris Fohl]

Just a few things to consider:
a) make sure you can see it from within the LAN via the LAN IP first.
b) you have to be outside the LAN to see the WAN IP it's routed to.
c) if your router is web browser configurable you want something
other than port 80 since the router is already using it for WAN
access requests.
Chris
On Jan 12, 2005, at 16:02, Thomas Burns wrote:
Does anyone know anything about hosting a website behind a Linksys 
router?
I have Quid Pro Quo running on a IIci, but for some reason I can't 
seem to hit the server from the world outside my LAN.
I've got port forwarding set up for 80 and 21 to go to that machine.

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Mac IIci web Server

[Thomas Burns]

Does anyone know anything about hosting a website behind a Linksys router?
I have Quid Pro Quo running on a IIci, but for some reason I can't seem to 
hit the server from the world outside my LAN.
I've got port forwarding set up for 80 and 21 to go to that machine.

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