Re: fx termination
Sounds like an active terminator, which should work better than the Special Black IIfx one. Termination power must be provided to the bus, either by the host adaptor (Mac) or one of the drives to use an active terminator. Its generally not a good idea to have more than two devices providing termination power to the bus. Set one device to provide power to the bus and the rest to provide termination power only to themselves or disable it on them. --- Desert Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Mac IIfx terminator is black with no green light. -- Paul/. 95 black 3000GT VR-4 98 VFR800F, TBR aluminum hi exit formerly reasonable and prudent on 7/25/01 10:15, Scott Barber at [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled: I tried to post this question the other day, but it hasn't appeared on the last two digests, here it is again: Does the black terminator used for external SCSI devices with the MacIIfx have a green led? I'm being given one, and want to use the correct terminator... = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: fx termination
Scott Barber wrote: Does the black terminator used for external SCSI devices with the MacIIfx have a green led? I'm being given one, and want to use the correct terminator... IMHO the special fx terminator isn't needed for short distances. SCSI is specified to work over a long distance that most of us never encounter. Longer distances require more ideal termination (i.e. impedance matching). My fx has always worked fine with standard external SCSI termination at lengths up to 4 feet, and I bet it would go up to at least 10 feet with no problem. Gamba http://www.accesscom.com/~gamba -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: fx termination
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Barber wrote: Does the black terminator used for external SCSI devices with the MacIIfx have a green led? I'm being given one, and want to use the correct terminator... IMHO the special fx terminator isn't needed for short distances. SCSI is specified to work over a long distance that most of us never encounter. Longer distances require more ideal termination (i.e. impedance matching). My fx has always worked fine with standard external SCSI termination at lengths up to 4 feet, and I bet it would go up to at least 10 feet with no problem. Gamba http://www.accesscom.com/~gamba There is an article somewhere at apple.com which tells which IIfx models need the special terminators. IIfx shipped prior to (some date) need the special external terminator and an internal SCSI filter or internal special terminator if not using an internal drive. (Who would ever have ordered, let alone used, a IIfx without an internal HD?) IIfx shipped after that date do not require any of the special terminators or filters. Apparently at some point Apple fixed the problem. Unfortunately they didn't put any easily identifiable marking on the logic boards or anywhere else to tell which are the revised ones. :P Someone had a website with a Mac serial number decoder so you could tell when your Mac was built, but Apple threw a fit and threatened to engage in lawyer tossing over it. The first power up date in PRAM is not a sure fire indicator of how old the Mac is. If you leave the PRAM battery out or dead long enough the PRAM will totally erase and lose that setting. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
manufacture date Re: fx termination
--- Kyle Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gregg Eshelman wrote: Unfortunately they didn't put any easily identifiable marking on the logic boards or anywhere else to tell which are the revised ones. :P Someone had a website with a Mac serial number decoder so you could tell when your Mac was built, I can tell you how to decode it on an old model. The first character or 2 are letters. It/they denote the plant that the Mac was made in. The next digit is the last # of the year, and the following 2 digits are the week it was made. So if you have a serial # that says: F4420351PT it was manufactured in the 42nd week of 1994 at the Fremont California plant. That could also be 1994. :) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: manufacture date Re: fx termination
--- Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Kyle Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gregg Eshelman wrote: Unfortunately they didn't put any easily identifiable marking on the logic boards or anywhere else to tell which are the revised ones. :P Someone had a website with a Mac serial number decoder so you could tell when your Mac was built, I can tell you how to decode it on an old model. The first character or 2 are letters. It/they denote the plant that the Mac was made in. The next digit is the last # of the year, and the following 2 digits are the week it was made. So if you have a serial # that says: F4420351PT it was manufactured in the 42nd week of 1994 at the Fremont California plant. That could also be 1994. :) DOH! 1984... Nine-Teen Eighty-Four. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: manufacture date Re: fx termination
Gregg Eshelman wrote: That could also be 1994. :) DOH! 1984... Nine-Teen Eighty-Four. I was wondering what you were talking about. Yes. It could also be 1984, but it wasn't a Plus so you have to use a process of elimination to figure it out. I *know* your smart enough to know what year a mac came out Gregg. -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: manufacture date Re: fx termination
the pickle wrote: Considering that the IIfx was made from 1990-1992 or thereabouts, finding a serial number starting with 4 is probably pretty unlikely, but then I would guess Kyle was just giving an example :) Bingo! We have a winner. That serial was just an example taken from a Performa 475 that I was using as a foot-stool/Ram checker. -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
