Re: Upgrading LC475
--- J.S. Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- From: the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) Subject: Re: Upgrading LC475 Date: Tue, Sep 4, 2001, 6:24 PM At 18:20 -0700 on 04/09/01, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Apple never used a ZIF socket or provided heatsink clips on any 040 Mac. Bzzt. Heatsink clips are on all 040-based Macs that shipped with a heatsink. The ones that didn't have them can, in some cases, take them. The 63x series that I've seen didn't have clip lugs on the socket; neither did the 57x. The 47x and 605 have them, so you can install a normal heatsink from another Mac. And three of the four Quadra 700's I've owned had the spring-steel clip holding down the 040 chip's heat sink. Jeff Is that clipped to the CPU itself or to the socket? = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Upgrading LC475
At 16:13 -0600 on 04/09/01, William Hatchell wrote: My Quadra 640AV recently expired and I'd like to move as many of the working components from it to my LC475 as possible. I began by maximizing RAM using modules from the Quadra. Next, I'd like to know how to replace the LC040 processor of the 475 with the faster 040 processor from the Quadra and just how to deal with the tall heat sink which I'm told may not allow for the LC case to close. Any other components transferable like VRAM? Thanks very All should be transferable, though the 475 only has one RAM slot and requires VRAM to be installed in matched pairs. Just carefully pry up the old LC040 with a screwdriver - work around the edges evenly so you don't bend the pins - and drop the 040 from the Quad in place, making sure to match the white dot on the CPU with the dog-eared corner on the socket. You'll see what I mean when you get in there. You shouldn't have any problem with the heatsink. You may need to apply heatsink grease or a clip; I don't know how the heatsink is set up in the Quad 63x/640 because I've never seen a full Quad version. p _ the pickle The FAQ http://macfaq.binhost.com/ The Archive http://www.jmug.org/software/thepickle/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Upgrading LC475
I have done this myself. Processor out of a Workgroup Server 60 into a Performa 475. The speed gain will not be realized however until a resistor is jumped. -- Paul/. 95 black 3000GT VR-4 98 VFR800F, TBR aluminum hi exit formerly reasonable and prudent on 9/4/01 16:15, the pickle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled: At 16:13 -0600 on 04/09/01, William Hatchell wrote: My Quadra 640AV recently expired and I'd like to move as many of the working components from it to my LC475 as possible. I began by maximizing RAM using modules from the Quadra. Next, I'd like to know how to replace the LC040 processor of the 475 with the faster 040 processor from the Quadra and just how to deal with the tall heat sink which I'm told may not allow for the LC case to close. Any other components transferable like VRAM? Thanks very All should be transferable, though the 475 only has one RAM slot and requires VRAM to be installed in matched pairs. Just carefully pry up the old LC040 with a screwdriver - work around the edges evenly so you don't bend the pins - and drop the 040 from the Quad in place, making sure to match the white dot on the CPU with the dog-eared corner on the socket. You'll see what I mean when you get in there. You shouldn't have any problem with the heatsink. You may need to apply -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Upgrading LC475
At 16:23 -0600 on 04/09/01, Desert Fox wrote: I have done this myself. Processor out of a Workgroup Server 60 into a Performa 475. The speed gain will not be realized however until a resistor is jumped. The CPU with the FPU in it - the 040 - is faster than the LC040 for calculation-intensive stuff without any overclocking. To gain speed over 25MHz, though, you *will* need to overclock it. Two resistor swap; details in the FAQ. p _ the pickle The FAQ http://macfaq.binhost.com/ The Archive http://www.jmug.org/software/thepickle/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Upgrading LC475
I purchased a little clip deal that enabled me to get up to 33mhz. Sucker is a pretty good dns machine with a 100bT network card... -- Paul/. 95 black 3000GT VR-4 98 VFR800F, TBR aluminum hi exit formerly reasonable and prudent on 9/4/01 16:33, the pickle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled: The CPU with the FPU in it - the 040 - is faster than the LC040 for calculation-intensive stuff without any overclocking. To gain speed over 25MHz, though, you *will* need to overclock it. Two resistor swap; details in the FAQ. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Upgrading LC475
Subject: Upgrading LC475 From: William Hatchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Quadra 640AV recently expired and I'd like to move as many of the working components from it to my LC475 as possible. I began by maximizing RAM using modules from the Quadra. Next, I'd like to know how to replace the LC040 processor of the 475 with the faster 040 processor from the Quadra and just how to deal with the tall heat sink which I'm told may not allow for the LC case to close. Any other components transferable like VRAM? Thanks very much! Bill All the LC475 cases here have closed fine over the 68040's heatsink. Bob F -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Upgrading LC475
--- William Hatchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Quadra 640AV recently expired and I'd like to move as many of the working components from it to my LC475 as possible. I began by maximizing RAM using modules from the Quadra. Next, I'd like to know how to replace the LC040 processor of the 475 with the faster 040 processor from the Quadra and just how to deal with the tall heat sink which I'm told may not allow for the LC case to close. Any other components transferable like VRAM? Thanks very much! You just carefully pry the CPU out of its socket using a small (1/8 wide) flatblade screwdriver. Stick it between the chip and socket on one side then twist a little. Work all four sides a little more each time until it pops loose. Even better is if you can get one of those rakes that came with most 486 PC upgrades. They work fine on the 040 and fit between the pins along the whole side of the chip. Same slow and gentle working on all sides applies. I don't know if the 040 is keyed with a missing pin or extra pin so it can only fit one way. Pin 1 is marked at one corner and the socket will have an angled corner or small dimple or the board will have a white outline around the socket with a triangle at Pin 1. As for a heatsink, try a short 486 one with a fan that has an inline hard drive power plug. You can stick it to the chip with a thin coat of white heatsink paste. It will stay put if you don't stand the Mac on it's side. :) Eventually the stuff can dry enough to where it will stay put but I wouldn't trust it 100%. It's too bad the 040 isn't exactly the same size as a 486 since there are tons of 486 heatsinks and fans that simply clip the the sides of the chip. Apple never used a ZIF socket or provided heatsink clips on any 040 Mac. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Upgrading LC475
At 18:20 -0700 on 04/09/01, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Apple never used a ZIF socket or provided heatsink clips on any 040 Mac. Bzzt. Heatsink clips are on all 040-based Macs that shipped with a heatsink. The ones that didn't have them can, in some cases, take them. The 63x series that I've seen didn't have clip lugs on the socket; neither did the 57x. The 47x and 605 have them, so you can install a normal heatsink from another Mac. p _ the pickle The FAQ http://macfaq.binhost.com/ The Archive http://www.jmug.org/software/thepickle/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Upgrading LC475
-- From: the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) Subject: Re: Upgrading LC475 Date: Tue, Sep 4, 2001, 6:24 PM At 18:20 -0700 on 04/09/01, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Apple never used a ZIF socket or provided heatsink clips on any 040 Mac. Bzzt. Heatsink clips are on all 040-based Macs that shipped with a heatsink. The ones that didn't have them can, in some cases, take them. The 63x series that I've seen didn't have clip lugs on the socket; neither did the 57x. The 47x and 605 have them, so you can install a normal heatsink from another Mac. And three of the four Quadra 700's I've owned had the spring-steel clip holding down the 040 chip's heat sink. Jeff -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
