RE: Notification list

2013-01-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi marissa,

I actually don't know as I don't have my Notifications set as Alerts but
usually as Banners. I find this less disruptive, I can still see the most
recent Notification in the lock screen and if I want to see them all I just
swipe down from the top and go into the Notification Centre. Maybe somebody
else can answer your question who is using Alert style notifications, sorry
I have to pass on it this time.

Regards,
Sieghard


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Subject: RE: Notification list

Sieghard,

With VoiceOver when you receive multiple notifications such as messages and
you have it set to alerts, if more than one text comes in while in the lock
VoiceOver will say double tap to show notification list, is that now
possible to view the notifications. 

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Apple TV

2013-01-28 Thread Fanus
Hello list
Previously I did not pay attention to this device but now 
we've got a new HD TV with all sorts of connectors. My 
question is now whether the purpose of Apple TV is only to 
be able to view vidios from one's iDevice or can one use it 
as a voiced remote to select TV channels?
Regards
Fanus
 

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RE: Notification list

2013-01-28 Thread Marissa
Sieghard,

With VoiceOver when you receive multiple notifications such as messages and you 
have it set to alerts, if more than one text comes in while in the lock 
VoiceOver will say double tap to show notification list, is that now possible 
to view the notifications. 

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RE: Notification list

2013-01-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello again, Marissa,

I am still unsure what exactly you are asking or trying to do. If you have a
Notification in the lock screen you can (and were able to before) double tap
it and it will open whichever app it refers to. For example, if I have a
text message in the lock screen and I double tap it, the Messages app opens
up and puts me in that conversation. If I get a headline from the CBC News
app I can double tap it and the CBC News app opens and so on. This has
worked for me ever since Notification Center was introduced in iOS 5.

This also works just the same if you bring up the Notification Center with a
3-finger swipe down the screen, double tap on any Notification and the
appropriate app will open.

Hope this helps, good luck with your iPhone at the Apple Store.


Take care,
Sieghard


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Hi yes that's what I meant

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re: How does One Create Successive Home Pages

2013-01-28 Thread Joseph Lee

Hi,
You can "create" home screens in two ways: by installing new apps 
or moving some apps to next home screen.  When you add more apps, 
iPhone will automatically create more and more home screens for 
you (up to eveven of them).
For arranging app icons, I tend to find that putting related apps 
in one row helps me find desired apps quickly.  For example, I 
have a row of apps for social networking and chat on my iPhone 
and have a row of system utilities (including Ariadne GPS).

Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
From: "Bill Gallik" Right now, my iPhone has 2 "Home Pages" and it's getting to the 
point where
I need to either create folders for common apps or create 
successive "Home
Pages."  I need a Page 3 for sure and possibly even a fourth, how 
does one

create additional such pages.

Then, how does one get the desired apps onto those additional 
home pages?


And finally, does anybody have any suggestions, recommendations 
or advice as

how best to arrange apps on the various home pages?

Thanks!


Holland's Person, Bill
- "Why is the time of day with the slowest traffic called rush 
hour?"

- George Carlin, 1937 - 2008

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How does One Create Successive Home Pages

2013-01-28 Thread Bill Gallik

   Hey Gang,

Right now, my iPhone has 2 "Home Pages" and it's getting to the point where 
I need to either create folders for common apps or create successive "Home 
Pages."  I need a Page 3 for sure and possibly even a fourth, how does one 
create additional such pages.


Then, how does one get the desired apps onto those additional home pages?

And finally, does anybody have any suggestions, recommendations or advice as 
how best to arrange apps on the various home pages?


Thanks!


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Re: iOS 6.1 and accessibility from Applevis

2013-01-28 Thread Esther
Hi Bob,

Grant's explanation is correct.  In the case of a translation from the
Wolfram alpha application, unless there is some tag or coded sequence
that indicates the words are in Danish, the automatic language
detection may not pick this up, especially for a short section of
speech.  This is particularly tricky because English has incorporated
many words from other languages. If you want to use an application
designed for translation that speaks the text. (I was going to
recommend "SayHi Translate", which is a universal app for ($0.99), but
I just checked it and I'm not sure I like the latest update compared
to the previous version.)

Automatically recognizing a language change from a few words is not
easy to do.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jan 28, 6:42 pm, Grant Hardy  wrote:
> Hi Robert, what's happening here is that VoiceOver is trying to detect
> the language of the text it's displaying, and switch to the
> appropriate voice automatically. As Esther said, this is the behaviour
> when "default language" is selected in the language rotor.
>
> Sometimes, though, it fails to give you the results you expect. This
> would happen if, say, a web page author used incorrect markup for some
> content. For example, I read a Canadian mobile news Blog that
> incorrectly marks articles as French when really they are in English.
> The result is that VoiceOver switches to a French voice, which is not
> what I want.
>
> The solution is to force VO to a specific language, which you can do
> by choosing it in the language rotor. Think of "default language" as
> "try to automatically detect languages." When that fails, force it to
> a specific language using the rotor, and know that what you're doing
> essentially, is turning off VoiceOver's automatic language tetection.
>
> On 1/28/13, Robert Fenton  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thank you Esther for your response. This would be a good feature if it
> > behaved consistently. For example, if I am using the Wolfram application and
> > I ask for a translation of a word, the default language does not change and
> > the word is Anglicized. I noticed this when I try to get a Danish
> > translation for a simple phrase. Is there any way that this feature could
> > behave more consistently? Thanks for your help.
>
> > Bob Fenton
>
> > Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 2013-01-28, at 6:06 PM, Esther  wrote:
>
> >> Hello Robert,
>
> >> It's not a bug, but a feature!  The behavior you describe of phrases
> >> in web pages or email messages being read in the original language
> >> instead of U.S. English occurs whenever your language rotor is set to
> >> "Default language" instead of "U.S. English" or some other specific
> >> language. This is a deliberate design decision, as far as I can tell,
> >> that has been in effect in iOS since the very first versions that
> >> supported a language rotor (iOS 4.0 for the iPhone; either iOS 4.1 or
> >> 4.2 for the iPad). If an iOS device user speaks or writes in more than
> >> one language, the difference between setting the language rotor to
> >> "Default language", which might happen to be "U.S. English", and
> >> explicitly setting it to "U.S. English" is the ability to hear text
> >> spoken in other languages in that setting.
>
> >> For example, I have multiple language voices and keyboards enabled on
> >> my devices. If I attach a Bluetooth keyboard and change the rotor to a
> >> language that does not use Latin characters, like Russian, Greek,
> >> Chinese, Japanese, or Korean, I will not hear VoiceOver even announce
> >> those keyboards and languages unless my language rotor is set to
> >> "Default language" instead of "U.S. English".
>
> >> The solution is easy: explicitly add "U.S. English" as a separate
> >> selection to your VoiceOver language rotor.  The advantage of the
> >> "Default Language" setting is that anyone who is reading multilingual
> >> documents will not have to spend all their time changing the language
> >> rotor setting.  There's also a potential performance advantage in not
> >> having to maintain multiple language resources continuously open for
> >> the default voice.  And this behavior is true for any language
> >> selection. I tried changing the default language of my iPhone to
> >> French, and selecting "Default Language" instead of "Français"
> >> produced the same behavior you described of pronouncing text I. The
> >> original language, while choosing "Français" made it impossible to
> >> hear VoiceOver say anything when reading a language with non-Latin
> >> characters, or even to change to such an input language for an
> >> attached keyboard.
>
> >> HTH. Cheers,
>
> >> Esther
>
> >> On Jan 28, 1:29 pm, Robert Fenton  wrote:
> >>> Hello everybody:
>
> >>> The bug I experienced with reading webpages and email messages generated
> >>> outside of the United States in languages other than English still exists
> >>> when the US English voice is selected as the default. When this kind of
> >>> content is accessed, VoiceO

Re: iOS 6.1 and accessibility from Applevis

2013-01-28 Thread Grant Hardy
Hi Robert, what's happening here is that VoiceOver is trying to detect
the language of the text it's displaying, and switch to the
appropriate voice automatically. As Esther said, this is the behaviour
when "default language" is selected in the language rotor.

Sometimes, though, it fails to give you the results you expect. This
would happen if, say, a web page author used incorrect markup for some
content. For example, I read a Canadian mobile news Blog that
incorrectly marks articles as French when really they are in English.
The result is that VoiceOver switches to a French voice, which is not
what I want.

The solution is to force VO to a specific language, which you can do
by choosing it in the language rotor. Think of "default language" as
"try to automatically detect languages." When that fails, force it to
a specific language using the rotor, and know that what you're doing
essentially, is turning off VoiceOver's automatic language tetection.

On 1/28/13, Robert Fenton  wrote:
> Thank you Esther for your response. This would be a good feature if it
> behaved consistently. For example, if I am using the Wolfram application and
> I ask for a translation of a word, the default language does not change and
> the word is Anglicized. I noticed this when I try to get a Danish
> translation for a simple phrase. Is there any way that this feature could
> behave more consistently? Thanks for your help.
>
> Bob Fenton
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2013-01-28, at 6:06 PM, Esther  wrote:
>
>> Hello Robert,
>>
>> It's not a bug, but a feature!  The behavior you describe of phrases
>> in web pages or email messages being read in the original language
>> instead of U.S. English occurs whenever your language rotor is set to
>> "Default language" instead of "U.S. English" or some other specific
>> language. This is a deliberate design decision, as far as I can tell,
>> that has been in effect in iOS since the very first versions that
>> supported a language rotor (iOS 4.0 for the iPhone; either iOS 4.1 or
>> 4.2 for the iPad). If an iOS device user speaks or writes in more than
>> one language, the difference between setting the language rotor to
>> "Default language", which might happen to be "U.S. English", and
>> explicitly setting it to "U.S. English" is the ability to hear text
>> spoken in other languages in that setting.
>>
>> For example, I have multiple language voices and keyboards enabled on
>> my devices. If I attach a Bluetooth keyboard and change the rotor to a
>> language that does not use Latin characters, like Russian, Greek,
>> Chinese, Japanese, or Korean, I will not hear VoiceOver even announce
>> those keyboards and languages unless my language rotor is set to
>> "Default language" instead of "U.S. English".
>>
>> The solution is easy: explicitly add "U.S. English" as a separate
>> selection to your VoiceOver language rotor.  The advantage of the
>> "Default Language" setting is that anyone who is reading multilingual
>> documents will not have to spend all their time changing the language
>> rotor setting.  There's also a potential performance advantage in not
>> having to maintain multiple language resources continuously open for
>> the default voice.  And this behavior is true for any language
>> selection. I tried changing the default language of my iPhone to
>> French, and selecting "Default Language" instead of "Français"
>> produced the same behavior you described of pronouncing text I. The
>> original language, while choosing "Français" made it impossible to
>> hear VoiceOver say anything when reading a language with non-Latin
>> characters, or even to change to such an input language for an
>> attached keyboard.
>>
>> HTH. Cheers,
>>
>> Esther
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 28, 1:29 pm, Robert Fenton  wrote:
>>> Hello everybody:
>>>
>>> The bug I experienced with reading webpages and email messages generated
>>> outside of the United States in languages other than English still exists
>>> when the US English voice is selected as the default. When this kind of
>>> content is accessed, VoiceOver will attempt to read it in the language of
>>> the country where the email or website is generated from this even
>>> happens if the message is written in English. However, if you switch the
>>> voice to British English or Australian English, the message reads fine. I
>>> do still do not have an explanation for this problem. I Will copy Apple
>>> accessibility on this message to see if we can get an answer. I will keep
>>> you posted.
>>>
>>> Bob Fenton
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 2013-01-28, at 2:07 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Check this out
>>>
 http://www.applevis.com/blog/advocacy/ios-61-accessibility-bug-list-f...
>>>
 Richard
 (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
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Re: What to tell Siri if a contact has 2 phone numbers?

2013-01-28 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, it is that simple. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 29/01/2013, at 15:21, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
 wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> If a contact has a home phone and a work phone, does Siri have a default? If 
> calling the home phone is desired for a certain call, how does one specify 
> this for Siri?
>  
> Is it as simple as saying, Siri, call Bill at home, or Siri, call Bill at 
> work (or Siri, call Bill on his mobile)?
>  
> Thanks in advance. Keith
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Re: Advantage to triple tap button

2013-01-28 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

The three-finger double-tap silences speech, but it doesn't turn VoiceOver off. 
This means the VoiceOver gestures are still in effect. This is handy, for 
example, if you want to record a voice memo and you don't want VoiceOver to be 
recorded. You can silence speech with the three-finger double-tap, and then do 
a two-finger double-tap to start recording and another to stop.

If you configure triple-click Home to toggle VoiceOver, it turns VoiceOver off 
completely. The gestures are the ones any sighted iPhone user would use, and 
your game will work properly.

HTH,
Anna



On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:05 PM, "Lauren Simmons"  
wrote:

> Hi Ben,
> 
> So rather than configuring the triple click home command, why not a quick 
> double 3-finger tap twice to disable VO when playing a game? These 2 commands 
> seem to do the same thing to silence voice over. There must be a distinction, 
> right? By the way, this iPod 5th I'm using did not have this triple click 
> command configured when I unpacked it. Also, by "Triple click home" I'm 
> assuming this is a triple press of the home button, right? When I press the 
> home button 3 times I get different unreliable results. (Shrug).
> 
> LS
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 4:31 AM
> Subject: Re: Advantage to triple tap button
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Tripple click home lets you toggle vo on and off without navigating
>> into accessibility which wouldn't be possible if vo is turned off
>> anyway.
>> Most people find that when playing games for example, they usually
>> work best with vo turned off. Note that as of iOs 5, the feature is
>> enabled by default.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ben.
>> 
>> On 1/28/13, Lauren Simmons  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> What is the advantage if one decides to configure this triple tap home
>>> button command? If I turn it on will I disable other features?
>>> 
>>> LS
>>> 
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Re: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

Yes, it applies to the 4S. Sometimes it takes a bit for an update to be 
recognized, so if you check and it says your software is up to date, try again 
in a few hours.

Best,
Anna



On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Liz and Sammie  
wrote:

> I have the IPhone-4S.  Does this update apply to the IPhone-4S?
> 
> Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie
> 
> 
> Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator 
> 
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> Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone
> 
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
>> The do not disturb issue where notifications were spoken if the 
>> auto-speaking of notifications in lock screen was enabled, seems to have 
>> been fixed with 6.1.
>> 
>> Also, you can now connect a Bluetooth keyboard to Apple TV, which really is 
>> rather coolness.
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> On 29/01/2013, at 7:38 AM, "Shawn Keen"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Any new bugs? I am going to wait for the rest of you to find them for me
>>> first. Smile.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Corey Michael Cook
>>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:37 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.1 is available
>>> 
>>> Any new featutres 
>>> 
>>> Corey 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello list,
 
 I just wanted to inform you guys and gals that IOS 6.1 is now available on
>>> iPhones, iPads, iPod touches, and Apple TVs.
 
 hth
 
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Re: How do I get the apps option to show up in the latest version of iTunes on a Windows PC?

2013-01-28 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

Press Command-Comma or Control-Comma, depending on your OS, to open 
Preferences. On the General page, be sure Apps is checked.

Best,
Anna


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> Hi.
>  
> I have a strange problem which I’m sure has a simple solution.  I can’t find 
> the apps option in the list of iTunes options.  Music, Movies and TV shows 
> are there, but the apps option isn’t.  This means I can’t update my apps.  
> Help!
>  
> GO CATS!
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Re: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update to 6.1

2013-01-28 Thread Pete Nalda
Yes folks, this update does take awhile.  I have enough vision to see it 
rebooted 3 times, and the first time was about 10 minutes.  Just be patient.  
FWIW, I'd bet that in a few years, processors will be able to have talking 
progress pages with voiceover just like MacOS has.

On Jan 28, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:

> Hi Mark;
> 
> My iPhone 5 acted the same way.
> 
> Just let the upgrade   do it's thing.
> 
> Anthony
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!
> 
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Mark BurningHawk  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> I turned on my Ipad, got the software update message, clicked Install and 
>> hit the I Agree button.  It did its thing, VoiceOver came on, said, "Ipad, 
>> image."  Then, the only other thing I could elicit, other than the status 
>> bar, were different languages, some of which VoiceOver couldn't pronounced.  
>> Double-tapping on the Ipad image (English version) did nothing.  My screen 
>> locks up almost immediately, and though I can unlock it with a single tap of 
>> the home button, I get the same, very restricted behavior.
>> 
>> My question is, is this normal?  How long should the update take?  It's been 
>> a good ten minutes or so that my Ipad 3 has been like this.  When I tried to 
>> shut it down, the shut-down routine didn't happen.  
>> 
>> So.  What should I expect here?
>> Thanks. :)
>> 
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RE: Facebook Messenger App

2013-01-28 Thread CD
The roter only gives me characters, words or headings.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kevin W.
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Facebook Messenger App

 

I just tried, and it seems that I'm able to delete messages by: taping once
on the message I want to delete, and switching the rotor to custom actions,
and then flicking to delete. 

This is similar activity to that of the Messages app. 

HTH

K.

 

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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Facebook Messenger App

 

I'm using the Facebook Messenger app to send private messages to people on
facebook.  Is there an easy way to delete the messages rom there once I'm
finished with them?  Thanks.

 

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Re: Case for iPod Touch 5th

2013-01-28 Thread RobH!
Griffin Survivor do tons of interesting colours and they do protect the 
device well;  disguise it pretty good I should think;  but you have to be 
open minded about brickesque styling.  It is aimed at the rugged military 
type, so that's hwat you get.  But put it this way, I got a typically black 
all over one,  so Mrs looked and ordered a pink one.  She said she might get 
a white one too,...  no idea why, or the parts can be mixed and have a 
raspberry ripple one in pink and white! Or even white and pink;   there's no 
limit to this and they can come quite cheap on eBay.  £10 or a little over 
in the UK,  so $15 or less is the target.

RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lauren Simmons" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 5:51 PM
Subject: Case for iPod Touch 5th


Hi all,

I received some excellent suggestions on my quest for a good alarm app and
installed 2 of them, so I thought I would ask for another suggestion(s).
(Smile).

If anyone out there is using an iPod Touch 5th gen will you please convey
the type of protective case you are using. A name will do and I'll run the
search myself. Big thanks.

LS

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Re: very basic iPad question

2013-01-28 Thread RobH!
The phone is a pocket sized out and about thing where retaining battery life 
is a consideration.  The Mini is an armchair thing for home, but not at the 
desk;  and you're within readch of power when you need to, though it is a 
very good battery life. On a desk and in landsccape mode, you can type on it 
almost normally. But with a bt keyboard, you can do that to the phone.   But 
it's the home and away bit mainly.

That, and just like these things.

R.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kim" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: very basic iPad question


Thanks for your perspectives.  SO, let me ask this...why do you
feel you need an iPad in addition to your phone?

> - Original Message -
>From: "RobH!" To: Date sent: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:33:58 -
>Subject: Re: very basic iPad question

>Well, after some thought, I can't think of anything. Size can
matter and
>speaker size and quality can matter, can listen to podcasts
better in that
>respect,  but it is the same os, so it does all the same except
make  real
>phone calls or natively make or send sms messages.   You can pair
any size
>keyboard to the phone for quicker typing maybe,  and the screen
layout is
>simpler, though some like the  more sophisticated gui layout on
the iPads.

>Don't know if this helps, I have both!

>Quite a few of us do in fact.

>R.
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>From: "Kim" To: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:44 PM
>Subject: very basic iPad question


>Hi,

>I've been using an iPhone for a couple of years and love it.  I'm
>thinking about adding an iPad mini to my life.

>What does an iPad mini do that an iPhone does not?

>Thank you,

>Kim

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Re: Case for iPod Touch 5th

2013-01-28 Thread RobH!
One addition, though camera cover is good, unlike on the Mini where it is on 
a swivel so can be swung out the way and it will stay out the way;  the 
smaller cases don't;  it hangs on a thin  tie of rubber as a part of the 
whole mould;  so keeping it out the way of the camera is an issue, or just a 
nuiscence. I,  indeed we, took nail clippers and cut that bit off! The lense 
is still wel indented or recessed, so not at any real risk, no more than on 
the Otterbox Defender, the closest relative.

R.
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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: Case for iPod Touch 5th


The Griffin Survivorcase adds weight and incrise thickness  doubled. I was a 
two thumb typer. Therefore i had problems knocking  on a, space, å.
  I'm maybe not strong enostrong enoogh to push dowm the screem protection 
cover for the screen. First the backside protectiom, then the rubber 
protection on the bacside and the screen protection on the fromt on top of 
some ruber. Push down hard and twist.

Very good gripand feeling in my hands. Nice. The screem protection plastic 
cover has a very smooth surface. It is easier to do touch commands on  this 
plastic than onp the iPhone screen.  Good camera lens, mini jack and 
lightning cover. No problem with the GPS and speaker. You can hold your hand 
in front of the speaker and still hear voice over. No provlem on speaker 
phone.

I had to change type of writing. First with iphone on the stomack. Now i 
could  h ear space,a, å. Still sometimes have problems with å most. A is 
much better. Space ys always good. Now i sit with iPhone on my  thigh. 
Practice typing with three fingers. Difficult, but the iPhone is lying 
steady on my tigh because of The Griffin Survivor.

Take care
Terje Strøømberg

Den 27. jan. 2013 kl. 18:51 skrev "Lauren Simmons" 
:

> Hi all,
>
> I received some excellent suggestions on my quest for a good alarm app and 
> installed 2 of them, so I thought I would ask for another suggestion(s). 
> (Smile).
>
> If anyone out there is using an iPod Touch 5th gen will you please convey 
> the type of protective case you are using. A name will do and I'll run the 
> search myself. Big thanks.
>
> LS
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Re: Phone Drive Question

2013-01-28 Thread RobH!
Phone drive don't work like that;  look under the transfer section, it gives 
you options.  so long as your desktop/laptop and iDevice are on the same 
LAN, then you can do ftp or even http file transfer.  I use FTP as I use 
windows and the windows explorer supports that.  In fact, I add  the 
iDevices to My network places.

I don't and never have used iTunes.  Indeed, if you can use iTunes, you 
hardly need Phone Drive. Still, it can do things iTunes and iOs don't do 
normally, so it is still worth having.

Other options include direct BT and wifi transfer between two idevices, 
though all these can be slow.  Correction, appear slow, shovelling many Gb 
of music will take time no matter what one uses.

All the material you put on it is a part of the app's data, none of it goes 
into the iOs file structure; only iOs and iTunes can do that. This could 
make backup an issue,  but then, you still have it on the  other computer 
you copied it off of course.

Hth, R.
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Subject: Phone Drive Question


I am trying to copy a group of files that I placed in a folder on our PC to 
our iPad, original model.  PhoneDrive is installed and running on the iPad 
and I have iTunes open on our PC.  I cannot figure out how to highlight the 
Phone Drive app , nor can I figure out how to add files to bring them over 
to the iPad from the PC.  If anyone can assist, please let me know.  Thanks.

Les

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Re: Siri

2013-01-28 Thread RobH!
Remember, all you record has to get sent to their server for analysis. 
Thisi s going to be a size of recording to upload and time for it to get out 
and then get back.

If you're out and about, it will eat data plan too.

R.
- Original Message - 
From: "Marissa" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: Siri


This is very interesting, yes, sometimes my texts can be a bit longer. Why 
is it that you can only dictate for 30 seconds was Siri I thought you could 
write a lengthy text messages. What is the point of using Siri then? If I 
have a lengthy text, is my best option to dictate it, send it and then 
dictate the rest? Does the 30 second rule, applying to using headsets 
provided by Apple as well? I was able to dictate for longer before I 
upgraded to iOS six , The phone's screen did not lock up and let me dictate 
the entire text in iOS 5 running voiceover.

 Just as an FYI in addition, I had it where I asked Siri the weather and 
have voice over running. And the screen locks up is that because Siri 
expects you to answer quickly?

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Re: Navigon question, please help.

2013-01-28 Thread Terje Strømberg
You have only downloaded the maps who is marked. For instance, if you double 
tap on a map it will dowmload or remove. The name of the countries are only 
buttons, empty. Until you tell them to download or remove. In map manager at 
the bottom ofthe screen.

Take care 

Den 28. jan. 2013 kl. 16:57 skrev "Eileen Misrahi" :

> Hello, 
> 
> I can only talk for Navigon USA, but at the bottom right (I believe) there
> is a tab called "Map Manager." Tap on that. It will open the screen where
> you have all the maps downloaded. When I first installed the app, I was able
> to control which maps to install with Navigon. I have "TomTom" for w.
> Europe, and all the maps were downloaded. I didn't have this option. Take a
> look and see if you can delete the maps that you don't use. HTH. 
> 
> Eileen 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Mária Orovcíková
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Navigon question, please help.
> 
> Hi list,
> I have been using Navigon Europe.
> My question is how can I see what maps (countries) are downloaded on my
> iphone and in case I do not want the map of a certain country, How can I
> remove it from the phone??
> Thank you very much for your help.
> Maria
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Re: Clocks and Timers

2013-01-28 Thread Lauren Simmons
Thank you for your great suggestion. I've just confirmed that I did indeed 
purchase this Yocto alarm, but there are 3 entries or alarms within my 
purchases folder and within my Homepage. I believe that after purchasing the 
extra features from the Yocto alarm it may have installed itself as a 
separate additional alarm. I also installed "Alarms" which others on this 
list suggested. Unfortunately the Yocto alarm and the 1-bit alarm are both 
named "Alarmed" within the Homepage, so I'm getting a bit confused as to 
which is which--I'm going to have to move one of these to a different page. 
Also, is there a way of renaming an app on my Homepage?


LS

- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Paganelli" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: Clocks and Timers


I use an app called "Alarmed" it is totally accessible.  I use mine as an 
alarm clock.  The hole screen can be used as the face of the alarm clock 
but that's only the beginning.  It also comes with it's own sounds and you 
can buy the extra sounds.  This was the first app I got some 2 years back 
when I got my first iPhone.  The developer said he is happy to make his app 
accessible for the blind and visually impaired and the few times I've 
emailed him with questions about the app, he was quick to reply and his 
instructions were clear and easy to understand.


The app lets you setup pretty much any kind of reminder you like such as a 
repeating reminder for taking medicines or any other repetitive activity 
you regularly perform.  The free version is fully functional and you can 
even daisy chain reminders and timers so from what you said you were 
looking for, this app should do you just fine.  Lastly, because this app 
does so much, there will be a learning curve but if you need something 
beyond just another clock app, this app should meet your needs.  If it 
does, please let the developer know that your visually impaired or blind 
so he knows we are out here.  He calls himself Yoctoville Apps.


http://www.yoctoville.com/

HTH
- Original Message - 
From: "Lauren Simmons" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:14 AM
Subject: Clocks and Timers



Hi all,

I was somewhat following the various posts regarding clocks and timers 
but they seem to have quickly come to an end. I'm hoping those who are 
using such tools will convey what they have found to be most accessible. 
So I don't hog up too much of your time, please post the name of the 
timer or clock you are using and I'll run the Google searches or visit 
the ITunes store for details. I'm primarily wanting to look for an app 
that will help me set up many alarms per day. Hopefully such an app will 
also allow me to set audio beeps for every hour on the hour as well as 
any preconfigured time. Again, I realize this is asking lots so please 
reply with a name and I'll take care of the rest. (Smile)!


LS


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Re: What to tell Siri if a contact has 2 phone numbers?

2013-01-28 Thread liz and sammie
I just tell Sister Serie to call Bill then specify home or work or mobile.  
Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie
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and Avon Representative

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Re: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Liz and Sammie
I have the IPhone-4S.  Does this update apply to the IPhone-4S?

Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie


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Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone

On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

> The do not disturb issue where notifications were spoken if the auto-speaking 
> of notifications in lock screen was enabled, seems to have been fixed with 
> 6.1.
> 
> Also, you can now connect a Bluetooth keyboard to Apple TV, which really is 
> rather coolness.
> 
> Jonathan
> On 29/01/2013, at 7:38 AM, "Shawn Keen"  wrote:
> 
>> Any new bugs? I am going to wait for the rest of you to find them for me
>> first. Smile.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Corey Michael Cook
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.1 is available
>> 
>> Any new featutres 
>> 
>> Corey 
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello list,
>>> 
>>> I just wanted to inform you guys and gals that IOS 6.1 is now available on
>> iPhones, iPads, iPod touches, and Apple TVs.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
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Re: Using the calendar and entering data into the calender

2013-01-28 Thread Alan Paganelli
You can use the reminders app that comes with iPhone.  You can enter in for 
example, Doctor's appointment.  Then enter in when you want to be reminded 
like the day before.  Very easy to use.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lori Dent" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Using the calendar and entering data into the calender



HiMarcy,

I want to enter doctor appointments, Lion meetings  and other Lion events 
in and any other events, activities that will be going on into my 
calendar.Take care.


Lori and the Gipper
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Re: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Dan Beaver GMail
Hi,

I checked the software update on my phone and it shows that I am up to date 
with 6.0.2.  Is this because 6.1 is a beta update and not a full update?

Thanks.

Dan Beaver
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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 1:43 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: IOS 6.1 is available

Well,

I see those with Apple TVs can now use bt keyboards with it.  But, I haven't 
played around with the version on my iPhone or iPad yet. I'm updating now.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Corey Michael Cook  
wrote:

> Any new featutres
>
> Corey
>
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>
>> Hello list,
>>
>> I just wanted to inform you guys and gals that IOS 6.1 is now available 
>> on iPhones, iPads, iPod touches, and Apple TVs.
>>
>> hth
>>
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
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Re: Advantage to triple tap button

2013-01-28 Thread Lauren Simmons

Hi Ben,

So rather than configuring the triple click home command, why not a quick 
double 3-finger tap twice to disable VO when playing a game? These 2 
commands seem to do the same thing to silence voice over. There must be a 
distinction, right? By the way, this iPod 5th I'm using did not have this 
triple click command configured when I unpacked it. Also, by "Triple click 
home" I'm assuming this is a triple press of the home button, right? When I 
press the home button 3 times I get different unreliable results. (Shrug).


LS

- Original Message - 
From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Advantage to triple tap button



Hi,

Tripple click home lets you toggle vo on and off without navigating
into accessibility which wouldn't be possible if vo is turned off
anyway.
Most people find that when playing games for example, they usually
work best with vo turned off. Note that as of iOs 5, the feature is
enabled by default.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/28/13, Lauren Simmons  wrote:

Hi,

What is the advantage if one decides to configure this triple tap home
button command? If I turn it on will I disable other features?

LS


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Re: Case for iPod Touch 5th

2013-01-28 Thread Nimit Kaur
Where did you find it and how much is it approx?  Thanks!!  I have an
IPOD 5g and when my parents got it for me in Christmas, the apple guy
said that they are not in stock yet.  Maybe they are by now.  Any help
would be appreciated.  Thanks!!!  Nimit

On 1/28/13, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
> The Griffin Survivorcase adds weight and incrise thickness  doubled. I was a
> two thumb typer. Therefore i had problems knocking  on a, space, å.
>   I'm maybe not strong enostrong enoogh to push dowm the screem protection
> cover for the screen. First the backside protectiom, then the rubber
> protection on the bacside and the screen protection on the fromt on top of
> some ruber. Push down hard and twist.
>
> Very good gripand feeling in my hands. Nice. The screem protection plastic
> cover has a very smooth surface. It is easier to do touch commands on  this
> plastic than onp the iPhone screen.  Good camera lens, mini jack and
> lightning cover. No problem with the GPS and speaker. You can hold your hand
>  in front of the speaker and still hear voice over. No provlem on speaker
> phone.
>
> I had to change type of writing. First with iphone on the stomack. Now i
> could  h ear space,a, å. Still sometimes have problems with å most. A is
> much better. Space ys always good. Now i sit with iPhone on my  thigh.
> Practice typing with three fingers. Difficult, but the iPhone is lying
> steady on my tigh because of The Griffin Survivor.
>
> Take care
> Terje Strøømberg
>
> Den 27. jan. 2013 kl. 18:51 skrev "Lauren Simmons"
> :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I received some excellent suggestions on my quest for a good alarm app and
>> installed 2 of them, so I thought I would ask for another suggestion(s).
>> (Smile).
>>
>> If anyone out there is using an iPod Touch 5th gen will you please convey
>> the type of protective case you are using. A name will do and I'll run the
>> search myself. Big thanks.
>>
>> LS
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Re: Audio Book In Music Folder In Iphone5?

2013-01-28 Thread Alan Paganelli
I've already located all the book files and removed them to my Victor Reader 
Stream but I'm going to hang on to this for the next time so your efforts won't 
be in vane.

Thanks so much for this!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:26 AM
  Subject: RE: Audio Book In Music Folder In Iphone5?


  Hi Alan,

   

  If you have MP3 books that sync to your music library all you have to do is 
find the book, highlight the file (or files if it is comprised of more than 1 
file), then press Control+I for "Get Info". Say Yes to the prompt asking if you 
want to edit multiple items. Now arrow right to the Options tab, tab I think it 
is 3 times until you get to "Media Kind". This is a drop down and if you select 
Audio Books instead of Music and press OK all the audio book files will 
disappear from the music library and reappear in the Books library.

   

  Alternatively you could use a program like Chapter and Vers on a Windows PC. 
Put all the MP3 files of a book into one folder, click "Add Files, browse to 
the folder and select all the files with Control+A then click OK. Chapter and 
Vers will convert all the MP3 files into the M4B format iTunes uses for audio 
books and, if you want, combine them all into one file afterwards. You can 
still navigate the audio book with Next and Previous in the new combined format 
and whatever the file intervals were will be your navigation unit. If each 
chapter of the book was in a separate file, you can navigate the new book by 
chapter. If the book has only one or a few very long files you can tell Chapter 
and Vers to set a break every 30 minutes, every 60 minutes or whatever you 
want. After the conversion and combining the files the program will even ask 
you if you want to add the finished book to iTunes.

  Just keep in mind that you should set your conversion settings to a not so 
high bitrate, if you leave it at the iTunes Plus bitrate of 256 Kbps you end up 
with a huge file with no real quality benefit, I typically find 64 or 96 Kbps 
is quite sufficient for an audio book and it depends of course on what the 
original MP3 file was ripped at.

   

  Chapter and Vers is from Loden Software and it's free, just google Chapter 
and Vers and you'll find it easily. 

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Paganelli
  Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:20 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Audio Book In Music Folder In Iphone5?

   

  If the book is in mp3 format, it will get copied over just like if it were 
any other CD album.  How do I know?  Found out the hard way.  And the book was 
helter-skelter through my music collection.  I was able to delete the audio 
book files on my computer and just did a sync with my iPhone but I would of 
liked to had listened to the book on my iPhone.  

   

- Original Message - 

From: Fazil 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:40 AM

Subject: Audio Book In Music Folder In Iphone5?

 

Hi, list.

I have an audio book in my music folder in my pc. It is a long book about 
18 hours of duration with a very low bit rate. Now my music is transferred to 
myIphone5. Should I assume that this audio book is there too, or Iphone5 might 
have ignored it when importing other stuff because of its low bit rate?

Your help is much appreciated.

 

 


Thanks!
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Re: Sudoku4all game help please?

2013-01-28 Thread Nimit Kaur
On 1/28/13, Nimit Kaur  wrote:
> HI Gabriel,
>
> Well, I don't know.  Can you contact me off list on that game topic.
> I know this has been explained but it is confusing to me so please
> bare with me!  I am sorry!  I have a lot of questions.  Thanks!  I
> don't want to clutter this list with my questions so just contact me
> off list please?
>
> On 1/28/13, Gabriel Battaglia (Kriyaban) 
> wrote:
>> Hi.
>> I'm not good at Sudoku but I play with the app you mentioned.
>> What are your questions?
>>
>> Bye. Gabriel.
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Re: Clocks and Timers

2013-01-28 Thread Alan Paganelli
Tina, if you have bought the extra sounds for this app and then download the 
Octo clock which is the alarm clock, it will use those sounds as well even 
though they are 2 separate apps.
- Original Message - 
From: "Tina Murphy" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Clocks and Timers



If you purchase Alarmed, Reminders, you can set up alarms all day.
This doesn't have the wakeup alarm anymore with the newest update.
Tina
**
Let us love, not in word or speech, but in truth and action.
-- 1 John 3:18

- Original Message - 
From: "Lauren Simmons" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:14 PM
Subject: Clocks and Timers


Hi all,

I was somewhat following the various posts regarding clocks and timers
but
they seem to have quickly come to an end. I'm hoping those who are
using
such tools will convey what they have found to be most accessible. So
I
don't hog up too much of your time, please post the name of the timer
or
clock you are using and I'll run the Google searches or visit the
ITunes
store for details. I'm primarily wanting to look for an app that will
help
me set up many alarms per day. Hopefully such an app will also allow
me to
set audio beeps for every hour on the hour as well as any
preconfigured
time. Again, I realize this is asking lots so please reply with a name
and
I'll take care of the rest. (Smile)!

LS


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Re: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update to 6.1

2013-01-28 Thread Anthony Vece
Hi Mark;

My iPhone 5 acted the same way.

Just let the upgrade   do it's thing.

Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!

On Jan 28, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Mark BurningHawk  wrote:

> Hi all:
> 
> I turned on my Ipad, got the software update message, clicked Install and hit 
> the I Agree button.  It did its thing, VoiceOver came on, said, "Ipad, 
> image."  Then, the only other thing I could elicit, other than the status 
> bar, were different languages, some of which VoiceOver couldn't pronounced.  
> Double-tapping on the Ipad image (English version) did nothing.  My screen 
> locks up almost immediately, and though I can unlock it with a single tap of 
> the home button, I get the same, very restricted behavior.
> 
> My question is, is this normal?  How long should the update take?  It's been 
> a good ten minutes or so that my Ipad 3 has been like this.  When I tried to 
> shut it down, the shut-down routine didn't happen.  
> 
> So.  What should I expect here?
> Thanks. :)
> 
> 
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Re: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Alan Paganelli
I deleted TWC in favor of the weather bug for 1 reason.  With weather bug, I 
can use a weather station that's a quarter of a block away from my home. 
That should be more then close enough for my needs.
- Original Message - 
From: "Cristobal" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:31 AM
Subject: RE: IOS 6.1 is available


There is indeed a native weather app, but I prefer The Weather Channel 
app.


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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 6.1 is available

I haven't tried any weather app; I keep looking for the equivalent of a
dashboard widget, I mean I thought there was an app native to IOS; I'll go
browse the app store and look for it.

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RE: Facebook Messenger App

2013-01-28 Thread Kevin W.
I just tried, and it seems that I'm able to delete messages by: taping once
on the message I want to delete, and switching the rotor to custom actions,
and then flicking to delete. 

This is similar activity to that of the Messages app. 

HTH

K.

 

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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Facebook Messenger App

 

I'm using the Facebook Messenger app to send private messages to people on
facebook.  Is there an easy way to delete the messages rom there once I'm
finished with them?  Thanks.

 

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Facebook Messenger App

2013-01-28 Thread CD
I'm using the Facebook Messenger app to send private messages to people on
facebook.  Is there an easy way to delete the messages rom there once I'm
finished with them?  Thanks.

 

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Re: iOS 6.1 and accessibility from Applevis

2013-01-28 Thread Robert Fenton
Thank you Esther for your response. This would be a good feature if it behaved 
consistently. For example, if I am using the Wolfram application and I ask for 
a translation of a word, the default language does not change and the word is 
Anglicized. I noticed this when I try to get a Danish translation for a simple 
phrase. Is there any way that this feature could behave more consistently? 
Thanks for your help.

Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hello Robert,
> 
> It's not a bug, but a feature!  The behavior you describe of phrases
> in web pages or email messages being read in the original language
> instead of U.S. English occurs whenever your language rotor is set to
> "Default language" instead of "U.S. English" or some other specific
> language. This is a deliberate design decision, as far as I can tell,
> that has been in effect in iOS since the very first versions that
> supported a language rotor (iOS 4.0 for the iPhone; either iOS 4.1 or
> 4.2 for the iPad). If an iOS device user speaks or writes in more than
> one language, the difference between setting the language rotor to
> "Default language", which might happen to be "U.S. English", and
> explicitly setting it to "U.S. English" is the ability to hear text
> spoken in other languages in that setting.
> 
> For example, I have multiple language voices and keyboards enabled on
> my devices. If I attach a Bluetooth keyboard and change the rotor to a
> language that does not use Latin characters, like Russian, Greek,
> Chinese, Japanese, or Korean, I will not hear VoiceOver even announce
> those keyboards and languages unless my language rotor is set to
> "Default language" instead of "U.S. English".
> 
> The solution is easy: explicitly add "U.S. English" as a separate
> selection to your VoiceOver language rotor.  The advantage of the
> "Default Language" setting is that anyone who is reading multilingual
> documents will not have to spend all their time changing the language
> rotor setting.  There's also a potential performance advantage in not
> having to maintain multiple language resources continuously open for
> the default voice.  And this behavior is true for any language
> selection. I tried changing the default language of my iPhone to
> French, and selecting "Default Language" instead of "Français"
> produced the same behavior you described of pronouncing text I. The
> original language, while choosing "Français" made it impossible to
> hear VoiceOver say anything when reading a language with non-Latin
> characters, or even to change to such an input language for an
> attached keyboard.
> 
> HTH. Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 1:29 pm, Robert Fenton  wrote:
>> Hello everybody:
>> 
>> The bug I experienced with reading webpages and email messages generated 
>> outside of the United States in languages other than English still exists 
>> when the US English voice is selected as the default. When this kind of 
>> content is accessed, VoiceOver will attempt to read it in the language of 
>> the country where the email or website is generated from this even happens 
>> if the message is written in English. However, if you switch the voice to 
>> British English or Australian English, the message reads fine. I do still do 
>> not have an explanation for this problem. I Will copy Apple accessibility on 
>> this message to see if we can get an answer. I will keep you posted.
>> 
>> Bob Fenton
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2013-01-28, at 2:07 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Check this out
>> 
>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/advocacy/ios-61-accessibility-bug-list-f...
>> 
>>> Richard
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RE: Notification list

2013-01-28 Thread Marissa
Hi yes that's what I meant

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OOPS RE: Yahoo mailing address

2013-01-28 Thread Tony
Sorry, don't know how that happened.

Tony

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RE: iOS 6.1 and accessibility from AppleVis

2013-01-28 Thread Anonymouse
Hello Julian,

Glad to see that you were able to resolve your Screen Curtain problem. This
really needs to be expressed more to our users. However, we shouldn't have
to do hocus pocus things to make things work the way it should be. Thanks
for letting me know of this solution did indeed work.

As for the identical icons. Wow, I hadn't thought of that and I'm glad you
were able to resolve that as well. Well, not resolved but figured out.

Thanks for the update!

Regards,
AnonyMouse
AppleVis Editorial Team
www.AppleVis.com
Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Julian
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 6.1 and accessibility from AppleVis

Hi AnonyMouse and David,

Plugging into iTunes and turning on VO from there fixed the issue with the
screen curtain. It should be noted that you should turn off VO using the
triple click home from the iPhone prior to enabling it from iTunes, at least
that's what I had to do to get it to work.

David, I suspect that the same icon is being used for both the lite and full
versions and that's probably why VO is reading them both the same when I
relable the lite one but this wasn't a problem prior to updrading from IOS
5.1.1 to IOS 6.

Julian

On 1/28/13, Anonymouse  wrote:
> Hello Julian,
>
> Not certain but we haven't been able to duplicate the problem you are 
> having with the renaming of the Icon. Each and every time we have 
> tried and used the Save button. WE have had luck.
>
> So I would be very curious if others have these problems as well?
>
> As for the Screen Curtains. That is correct we have indeed mentioned 
> that we felt they had fixed this issues. Apparently, some are still 
> experiencing the problems.
>
> Weirdly, we do still do not have this issue. Even though I had this 
> problem in my IOS 6.0.2. Now I don't have this problem at all. Be sure 
> to check out a comment that an user has stated about what they thought 
> might resolved this issue by going in to your iTunes on your computer.
>
> As again, I also would like to see how many people still experience 
> the same issue where it does not stick for you when VO is turned off 
> and on.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Regards,
> AnonyMouse
> AppleVis Editorial Team
> www.AppleVis.com
> Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Julian
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 6.1 and accessibility from Applevis
>
> Hello All,
>
> I'm using a factory unlocked 16Gb iPhone 5 just updated to IOS6.1.
> According to applevis.com the folowing problem was resolved but not so 
> on my device even after  a full reboot:
>
> At times when you have the Screen Curtain turned on, toggling 
> VoiceOver off and then back on would result in VoiceOver forgetting 
> the setting of the Screen Curtain. Has this been resolved in 6.1?
> Yes. This appears to have been resolved.
>
> Also, they apparently improved button labeling but not icon labeling.
> I have 2 apps in the same folder. One is a lite bersion and the other 
> the full version of the same game. If I try to relabel the lite 
> version, VO calls them both "lite"
>
>
> Julian
>
>
> On 1/28/13, Robert Fenton  wrote:
>> Hello everybody:
>>
>> The bug I experienced with reading webpages and email messages 
>> generated outside of the United States in languages other than 
>> English still exists when the US English voice is selected as the
default.
>> When this kind of content is accessed, VoiceOver will attempt to read 
>> it in the language of the country where the email or website is 
>> generated from this even happens if the message is written in English.
>> However, if you switch the voice to British English or Australian 
>> English, the message reads fine. I do still do not have an 
>> explanation for this problem. I Will copy Apple accessibility on this 
>> message to see
> if we can get an answer. I will keep you posted.
>>
>> Bob Fenton
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 2013-01-28, at 2:07 PM, Richard Turner 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Check this out
>>>
>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/advocacy/ios-61-accessibility-bug-list-
>>> f
>>> ixed-unfixed-and-new-bugs
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
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Re: very basic iPad question

2013-01-28 Thread cnmyhand
I have both because I would rather keep my phone's battery longer and not 
haveing it run down because I'm somewhere with time on my hands and may want to 
read or play a game


Sent from INEZ, my IPHONE 

On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Kim  wrote:

> Thanks for your perspectives.  SO, let me ask this...why do you feel you need 
> an iPad in addition to your phone?
> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "RobH!" > To: > Date sent: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:33:58 -
>> Subject: Re: very basic iPad question
> 
>> Well, after some thought, I can't think of anything. Size can
> matter and
>> speaker size and quality can matter, can listen to podcasts  
> better in that
>> respect,  but it is the same os, so it does all the same except
> make  real
>> phone calls or natively make or send sms messages.   You can pair
> any size
>> keyboard to the phone for quicker typing maybe,  and the screen
> layout is
>> simpler, though some like the  more sophisticated gui layout on
> the iPads.
> 
>> Don't know if this helps, I have both!
> 
>> Quite a few of us do in fact.
> 
>> R.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kim" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:44 PM
>> Subject: very basic iPad question
> 
> 
>> Hi,
> 
>> I've been using an iPhone for a couple of years and love it.  I'm
>> thinking about adding an iPad mini to my life.
> 
>> What does an iPad mini do that an iPhone does not?
> 
>> Thank you,
> 
>> Kim
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Re: Major problems streaming internet radio on iPhone 5

2013-01-28 Thread Grant Hardy
Hi all,

In case anybody didn't see my previous message in the thread about the
release of iOS 6.1, I just wanted to follow up to say that the latest
update appears to have resolved all the streaming problems I was
experiencing on my iPhone 5. If others have been having trouble
streaming internet radio, as I know a number of people have, then I
recommend updating to iOS 6.1.

Grant

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re: What to tell Siri if a contact has 2 phone numbers?

2013-01-28 Thread Joseph Lee

Hi,
Yes, you can say:
Call (someone) at (someplace)
where "someone" is the contact name and "someplace" is the phone 
number type e.g.  home, mobile, iPhone, etc.

Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." If a contact has a home phone and a work phone, does Siri have a 
default? If calling the home phone is desired for a certain call, 
how does one specify this for Siri?


Is it as simple as saying, Siri, call Bill at home, or Siri, call 
Bill at work (or Siri, call Bill on his mobile)?


Thanks in advance.  Keith

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RE: Yahoo mailing address

2013-01-28 Thread Tony
I haven't used Yahoo mail since before it was "improved" and didn't like it
then.

You might ask Bob, bob.bythe...@gmail.com

Didn't get home from Mountain Home until after 5 o'clock and don't have a
way into town tonight.  May be able to get a ride sometime tomorrow but
don't know yet.

What is your current phone number?

Mom's test showed about what was expected.  Her spine has filled in and is
putting pressure on the spinal cord.  Dr. Rauls doesn't work with the spine
and is referring her to someone in Little Rock.  We will have to check him
out carefully before he does anything.

Dad



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Subject: Yahoo mailing address

How do I set up yahoo mail on my phone?

Thank you so much!

Jenn

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Re: iOS 6.1 and accessibility from AppleVis

2013-01-28 Thread Julian
Hi AnonyMouse and David,

Plugging into iTunes and turning on VO from there fixed the issue with
the screen curtain. It should be noted that you should turn off VO
using the triple click home from the iPhone prior to enabling it from
iTunes, at least that's what I had to do to get it to work.

David, I suspect that the same icon is being used for both the lite
and full versions and that's probably why VO is reading them both the
same when I relable the lite one but this wasn't a problem prior to
updrading from IOS 5.1.1 to IOS 6.

Julian

On 1/28/13, Anonymouse  wrote:
> Hello Julian,
>
> Not certain but we haven't been able to duplicate the problem you are
> having
> with the renaming of the Icon. Each and every time we have tried and used
> the Save button. WE have had luck.
>
> So I would be very curious if others have these problems as well?
>
> As for the Screen Curtains. That is correct we have indeed mentioned that
> we
> felt they had fixed this issues. Apparently, some are still experiencing
> the
> problems.
>
> Weirdly, we do still do not have this issue. Even though I had this problem
> in my IOS 6.0.2. Now I don't have this problem at all. Be sure to check out
> a comment that an user has stated about what they thought might resolved
> this issue by going in to your iTunes on your computer.
>
> As again, I also would like to see how many people still experience the
> same
> issue where it does not stick for you when VO is turned off and on.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Regards,
> AnonyMouse
> AppleVis Editorial Team
> www.AppleVis.com
> Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Julian
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 6.1 and accessibility from Applevis
>
> Hello All,
>
> I'm using a factory unlocked 16Gb iPhone 5 just updated to IOS6.1.
> According to applevis.com the folowing problem was resolved but not so on
> my
> device even after  a full reboot:
>
> At times when you have the Screen Curtain turned on, toggling VoiceOver off
> and then back on would result in VoiceOver forgetting the setting of the
> Screen Curtain. Has this been resolved in 6.1?
> Yes. This appears to have been resolved.
>
> Also, they apparently improved button labeling but not icon labeling.
> I have 2 apps in the same folder. One is a lite bersion and the other the
> full version of the same game. If I try to relabel the lite version, VO
> calls them both "lite"
>
>
> Julian
>
>
> On 1/28/13, Robert Fenton  wrote:
>> Hello everybody:
>>
>> The bug I experienced with reading webpages and email messages
>> generated outside of the United States in languages other than English
>> still exists when the US English voice is selected as the default.
>> When this kind of content is accessed, VoiceOver will attempt to read
>> it in the language of the country where the email or website is
>> generated from this even happens if the message is written in English.
>> However, if you switch the voice to British English or Australian
>> English, the message reads fine. I do still do not have an explanation
>> for this problem. I Will copy Apple accessibility on this message to see
> if we can get an answer. I will keep you posted.
>>
>> Bob Fenton
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 2013-01-28, at 2:07 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Check this out
>>>
>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/advocacy/ios-61-accessibility-bug-list-f
>>> ixed-unfixed-and-new-bugs
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
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RE: Using Pages With A Braille Display

2013-01-28 Thread Richard Turner
Alan,
If you have a very long document, double tapping doesn't move you to the end
of the document.
For example, I have a recipe book that is about 150 pages in Word.
In the Pages app, it has 475 pages, which are really screens, I think.
If I double tap and VoiceOver says Cursor at End, then touch with three
fingers, I am on page 6 of 475.
If I use a QWERTY keyboard and the command plus down-arrow command, and then
touch with three fingers, I hear page 474 of 475.  There are some blank
lines at the end of the document that cause the page total to be 475, but
the text actually ends on 474..
 
So, while VoiceOver may tell you it is at the end, the chances are it is
not.
 
Richard
 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Pages With A Braille Display


In my iPhone 4 you can move from the beginning or the end of the document by
double tapping on the field useful if you want to add text ahead of what's
already there.

- Original Message - 
From: David   Chittenden 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: Using Pages With A Braille Display

1) With the rotor you can only navigate by character, word, and line.
However, dots 1 3 5 chord with space bar scrolls right one page; dots 2 4 6
chord scrolls left one page; dots 1 4 5 6 chord scrolls up one page; and
dots 3 4 5 6 chord scrolls down one page. In most circumstances, page equals
screen.

2) Single finger double tap on the active edit field moves the cursor/focus
to the beginning and the end of the active field. On my RefreshaBraille 18,
pressing the joystick like a button activates the single finger double tap.
Dots 1 3 chord places you in keyboard help. You can then press any buttons
or combinations and VO will announce the function. Pressing dots 1 2 chord
ends keyboard help.

3) Not that I know of.

4) When a word is misspelled and you receive the sound, do a single finger
right flick to find the first suggestion. Continue flicking through the
suggestions. In text messages, corrections sometimes appear before the text
message (left flick rather than right flick). If you place the cursor at the
end of a misspelled word using a cursor routing button, sometimes the
misspelled words will be signified. Unfortunately, there are no notification
marks like underline of each misspelled word. Sometimes I need to press
space followed by dot 7 chord (backspace) to get the suggested words to pop
up.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA 
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 28/01/2013, at 9:24, Tom Lange  wrote:



Hi,
I've been really curious about using Pages with a Braille display, so I
began playing with it the other day while I was on the way home from work.  
 
Using my iPhone 4 with a BrailleNote Apex, I was able to use the Pages app
to create a document, then e-mail the document to myself.  The document was
in Word format.  I was a little disappointed that I couldn't put the
document straight into Dropbox, but I'll worry about that later.  Anyway, I
have some basic questions.
 
1. Using the rotor, I was able to navigate through the document by
character, word and line.  Is there a way that I can navigate by paragraph
or page?
2.  In a conventional PC-based word processor or text editor I can go
straight to the top or bottom of a file at will.  Is there a way to do that
in Pages?
3. Is there a way of temporarily restricting Vo so that I don't
inadvertently stumble into the toolbar?  
4.  One more, and then I'm out of here for now.  I'm a pretty good speller,
but if I do make a mistake, VO will inform me that the word that I just
typed was misspelled. Short of manually editing the misspelled word, how can
I correct it?  I tried double-tapping on the word and couldn't figure out
how to bring up any suggested alternatives. How do you do that?  On a
related note, once the document has been drafted, is there a way to
spell-check the entire thing as one would with the spell-checker in Word?
 
Okay, that's enough for now. 
 
Tom
 



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Re: iOS 6.1 and accessibility from Applevis

2013-01-28 Thread David Chittenden
I am not experiencing any problems with screen curtain. 

Some apps use the same icon for both full and lite versions. In said case both 
icons will have the same label. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 29/01/2013, at 13:45, Julian  wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm using a factory unlocked 16Gb iPhone 5 just updated to IOS6.1.
> According to applevis.com the folowing problem was resolved but not so
> on my device even after  a full reboot:
> 
> At times when you have the Screen Curtain turned on, toggling
> VoiceOver off and then back on would result in VoiceOver forgetting
> the setting of the Screen Curtain. Has this been resolved in 6.1?
> Yes. This appears to have been resolved.
> 
> Also, they apparently improved button labeling but not icon labeling.
> I have 2 apps in the same folder. One is a lite bersion and the other
> the full version of the same game. If I try to relabel the lite
> version, VO calls them both "lite"
> 
> 
> Julian
> 
> 
> On 1/28/13, Robert Fenton  wrote:
>> Hello everybody:
>> 
>> The bug I experienced with reading webpages and email messages generated
>> outside of the United States in languages other than English still exists
>> when the US English voice is selected as the default. When this kind of
>> content is accessed, VoiceOver will attempt to read it in the language of
>> the country where the email or website is generated from this even happens
>> if the message is written in English. However, if you switch the voice to
>> British English or Australian English, the message reads fine. I do still do
>> not have an explanation for this problem. I Will copy Apple accessibility on
>> this message to see if we can get an answer. I will keep you posted.
>> 
>> Bob Fenton
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2013-01-28, at 2:07 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Check this out
>>> 
>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/advocacy/ios-61-accessibility-bug-list-fixed-unfixed-and-new-bugs
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
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RE: Notification list

2013-01-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Marissa,

I am not quite sure what you are asking when you say "double tapping on the
notification list in voiceover".
I assume you mean the Notification Center, are you referring to double
tapping on notifications in the lock screen when Voiceover is on?
Maybe you can clarify/rephrase.

Regards,
Sieghard


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Just curious, if anyone has downloaded iOS 6.1, knows if when double tapping
on the notification list in voiceover will the notifications be able to be
viewed in voiceover will be able to read them?

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Re: Question about Location tracking settings

2013-01-28 Thread Marcy Weinberg
Location services is located in settings/privacy.




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> Hi. I have a question about location tracking settings. How do you turn them 
> on and off? And do you need to do that on each app or just simply somewhere 
> in settings? Thanks so much.
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How do I get the apps option to show up in the latest version of iTunes on a Windows PC?

2013-01-28 Thread Kevin Minor
Hi.

 

I have a strange problem which I'm sure has a simple solution.  I can't find
the apps option in the list of iTunes options.  Music, Movies and TV shows
are there, but the apps option isn't.  This means I can't update my apps.
Help!

 

GO CATS!

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RE: iOS 6.1 and accessibility from AppleVis

2013-01-28 Thread Anonymouse
Hello Julian,

Not certain but we haven't been able to duplicate the problem you are having
with the renaming of the Icon. Each and every time we have tried and used
the Save button. WE have had luck.

So I would be very curious if others have these problems as well?

As for the Screen Curtains. That is correct we have indeed mentioned that we
felt they had fixed this issues. Apparently, some are still experiencing the
problems.

Weirdly, we do still do not have this issue. Even though I had this problem
in my IOS 6.0.2. Now I don't have this problem at all. Be sure to check out
a comment that an user has stated about what they thought might resolved
this issue by going in to your iTunes on your computer.

As again, I also would like to see how many people still experience the same
issue where it does not stick for you when VO is turned off and on.

Thanks so much!

Regards,
AnonyMouse
AppleVis Editorial Team
www.AppleVis.com
Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville






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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 6.1 and accessibility from Applevis

Hello All,

I'm using a factory unlocked 16Gb iPhone 5 just updated to IOS6.1.
According to applevis.com the folowing problem was resolved but not so on my
device even after  a full reboot:

At times when you have the Screen Curtain turned on, toggling VoiceOver off
and then back on would result in VoiceOver forgetting the setting of the
Screen Curtain. Has this been resolved in 6.1?
Yes. This appears to have been resolved.

Also, they apparently improved button labeling but not icon labeling.
I have 2 apps in the same folder. One is a lite bersion and the other the
full version of the same game. If I try to relabel the lite version, VO
calls them both "lite"


Julian


On 1/28/13, Robert Fenton  wrote:
> Hello everybody:
>
> The bug I experienced with reading webpages and email messages 
> generated outside of the United States in languages other than English 
> still exists when the US English voice is selected as the default. 
> When this kind of content is accessed, VoiceOver will attempt to read 
> it in the language of the country where the email or website is 
> generated from this even happens if the message is written in English. 
> However, if you switch the voice to British English or Australian 
> English, the message reads fine. I do still do not have an explanation 
> for this problem. I Will copy Apple accessibility on this message to see
if we can get an answer. I will keep you posted.
>
> Bob Fenton
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2013-01-28, at 2:07 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
>> Check this out
>>
>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/advocacy/ios-61-accessibility-bug-list-f
>> ixed-unfixed-and-new-bugs
>>
>> Richard
>> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
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Re: iOS 6.1 and accessibility from Applevis

2013-01-28 Thread Esther
Hello Robert,

It's not a bug, but a feature!  The behavior you describe of phrases
in web pages or email messages being read in the original language
instead of U.S. English occurs whenever your language rotor is set to
"Default language" instead of "U.S. English" or some other specific
language. This is a deliberate design decision, as far as I can tell,
that has been in effect in iOS since the very first versions that
supported a language rotor (iOS 4.0 for the iPhone; either iOS 4.1 or
4.2 for the iPad). If an iOS device user speaks or writes in more than
one language, the difference between setting the language rotor to
"Default language", which might happen to be "U.S. English", and
explicitly setting it to "U.S. English" is the ability to hear text
spoken in other languages in that setting.

For example, I have multiple language voices and keyboards enabled on
my devices. If I attach a Bluetooth keyboard and change the rotor to a
language that does not use Latin characters, like Russian, Greek,
Chinese, Japanese, or Korean, I will not hear VoiceOver even announce
those keyboards and languages unless my language rotor is set to
"Default language" instead of "U.S. English".

The solution is easy: explicitly add "U.S. English" as a separate
selection to your VoiceOver language rotor.  The advantage of the
"Default Language" setting is that anyone who is reading multilingual
documents will not have to spend all their time changing the language
rotor setting.  There's also a potential performance advantage in not
having to maintain multiple language resources continuously open for
the default voice.  And this behavior is true for any language
selection. I tried changing the default language of my iPhone to
French, and selecting "Default Language" instead of "Français"
produced the same behavior you described of pronouncing text I. The
original language, while choosing "Français" made it impossible to
hear VoiceOver say anything when reading a language with non-Latin
characters, or even to change to such an input language for an
attached keyboard.

HTH. Cheers,

Esther



On Jan 28, 1:29 pm, Robert Fenton  wrote:
> Hello everybody:
>
> The bug I experienced with reading webpages and email messages generated 
> outside of the United States in languages other than English still exists 
> when the US English voice is selected as the default. When this kind of 
> content is accessed, VoiceOver will attempt to read it in the language of the 
> country where the email or website is generated from this even happens if the 
> message is written in English. However, if you switch the voice to British 
> English or Australian English, the message reads fine. I do still do not have 
> an explanation for this problem. I Will copy Apple accessibility on this 
> message to see if we can get an answer. I will keep you posted.
>
> Bob Fenton
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2013-01-28, at 2:07 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Check this out
>
> >http://www.applevis.com/blog/advocacy/ios-61-accessibility-bug-list-f...
>
> > Richard
> > (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
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Re: iOS 6.1 and accessibility from Applevis

2013-01-28 Thread Regina Alvarado
Thanks for this. I have not tried to reboot with home and on off, and won't 
try. However, if anyone just happens to do this maneuver, please post the 
results. I have not had a problem where I needed to use this, but curious. Just 
turning phone off will clear everything most times. 

Reggie and Brooks

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> Check this out
> 
> http://www.applevis.com/blog/advocacy/ios-61-accessibility-bug-list-fixed-unfixed-and-new-bugs
> 
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Re: iOS 6.1 and accessibility from Applevis

2013-01-28 Thread Julian
Hello All,

I'm using a factory unlocked 16Gb iPhone 5 just updated to IOS6.1.
According to applevis.com the folowing problem was resolved but not so
on my device even after  a full reboot:

At times when you have the Screen Curtain turned on, toggling
VoiceOver off and then back on would result in VoiceOver forgetting
the setting of the Screen Curtain. Has this been resolved in 6.1?
Yes. This appears to have been resolved.

Also, they apparently improved button labeling but not icon labeling.
I have 2 apps in the same folder. One is a lite bersion and the other
the full version of the same game. If I try to relabel the lite
version, VO calls them both "lite"


Julian


On 1/28/13, Robert Fenton  wrote:
> Hello everybody:
>
> The bug I experienced with reading webpages and email messages generated
> outside of the United States in languages other than English still exists
> when the US English voice is selected as the default. When this kind of
> content is accessed, VoiceOver will attempt to read it in the language of
> the country where the email or website is generated from this even happens
> if the message is written in English. However, if you switch the voice to
> British English or Australian English, the message reads fine. I do still do
> not have an explanation for this problem. I Will copy Apple accessibility on
> this message to see if we can get an answer. I will keep you posted.
>
> Bob Fenton
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2013-01-28, at 2:07 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
>> Check this out
>>
>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/advocacy/ios-61-accessibility-bug-list-fixed-unfixed-and-new-bugs
>>
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Re: TV Guide is Blind Friendly and best of all, free too!

2013-01-28 Thread Vicki Meizinger

are you talking about digit?
Vicki Meizinger

On 1/28/2013 5:27 PM, MamaPeach wrote:

Who is the developer?

-Original Message- From: Dulce Weisenborn
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Subject: RE: TV Guide is Blind Friendly and best of all, free too!

Which app is it?  There are several listed.

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Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: TV Guide is Blind Friendly and best of all, free too!

Last night I tried TV Guide and was amazed.  Not only is it free but it's
blind friendly too.  When I first got the app installed, it asks you to
select a provider such as cable or local channels.  I have Cox Cable and
selected that and let then use my zip code to provide content.

Once the quick setup was finished here's what I found.  The present 30
minute such as 7 or 7:30 is shown.  flick right to move through upward
through the channels.  As you do so, what's on as of that time is shown.
For example, let's say it's CBS.  If you want to see the schedule for 
that

channel because you know two and a half men is coming on tonight but you
don't know exactly when.  Just double and that brings up the list of 
what is


on from the present time forward.  You can also bring up a search box 
so you


can type in what your looking for.  I found the app very easy to use and
very blind friendly.  Just thought you might like to know too.
- Original Message - From: "MamaPeach" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: Possible Accessible App. Free. LocateTV



There is a peaker item selector. It will say 1 of however many channels
that your cable company offers. Once you land on the peaker item, simply
swipe up to change it. Then when you land on a channel that you want,
double tap on it, the listings will then show for like a two or three 
hour



time frame for the channel you chose.

-Original Message- From: Beverly
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible Accessible App. Free. LocateTV

How were you able to find the TV listings? It says that I have 
selected tv

listings, but I can't figure out how to read them.


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- Original Message - From: "MamaPeach" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 5:28 PM
Subject: Possible Accessible App. Free. LocateTV


I haven't been able to tell if this app is totally 100 percent 
accessible

with VoiceOver, but the TV Listing portion is very accessible.
App Information:
Name Of App: LocateTV
The developer is LocateTV
This app is FREE
LocateTV is a unique TV guide that connects you to whatever you want to
watch, however you want to watch it, whether it's on TV, online, or on
DVD. And now you can have the power of LocateTV in a handy travel size
app!
We cater for the US and the UK, so just set your region and we'll 
deliver



listings specific to your area.
Not only do we provide you with a full TV guide and a Now and Next
feature, we can also tailor your schedule to fit you. With the Favorite
Channel option you can reorder your list using drag and drop to 
create a

personal TV schedule, based on the channels you're interested in!
But as TV fans, we know you don't just want to see what's on but also
who's on. With LocateTV you can keep up-to-date with your favorite 
actors



and find out exclusively when they're on TV.
We also have direct links to online episodes and movies, so if you find
something you want to watch, we'll take you straight there from your
mobile.
So whether you're catching up or forward planning, LocateTV is the
answer!
This application requires an active Internet connection to provide a
unique iPhone/iPod Touch experience of features offered on the LocateTV
website
www.locatetv.com
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Re: Apple Maps- Current Location Not Announced- what am I doing wrong?

2013-01-28 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, but only when the screen is unlocked. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

On 29/01/2013, at 10:03, Grant Hardy  wrote:

> I think he's talking about monitoring your current location using the
> tracking option, rather than turn-by-turn directions. That should work
> on the iPhone 4 as it uses VoiceOver to speak the information, yes?
> 
> On 1/28/13, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> Announcements are spoken when the screen is locked using maps in
>> turn-by-turn navigation mode on a 4S or higher. Siri is used for this
>> function. As the person has a 4, this function is not available.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 29/01/2013, at 7:28, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Mostly, flicking to the current location works for me. Sometimes while I'm
>>> walking, Maps will stop reporting it for a bit, but then it starts up
>>> again. Be sure either Tracking or Tracking with Headings is on.
>>> 
>>> I imagine the announcements will only happen if the screen is unlocked, so
>>> try turning off the automatic screen lock when you are walking while using
>>> Maps. I think it's turn-by-turn driving directions that are spoken when
>>> the screen is locked. I could be wrong about that, though.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:12 PM, "Don & Cher Bosch"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 I’m apparently not doing something correctly using an iPhone4:
 1)  How do you ‘select’ current location in order to have it
 announced as you walk? Have tried just flicking to it and also double
 tapping- which opens the search box. Accidentally had it work briefly one
 time but can’t reproduce.
 2)   How do you keep announcements coming after the phone has locked
 the screen?
 Have read several posts and searched archives but still missing
 something.
 
 
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Re: iOS 6.1 and accessibility from Applevis

2013-01-28 Thread Robert Fenton
Hello everybody:

The bug I experienced with reading webpages and email messages generated 
outside of the United States in languages other than English still exists when 
the US English voice is selected as the default. When this kind of content is 
accessed, VoiceOver will attempt to read it in the language of the country 
where the email or website is generated from this even happens if the message 
is written in English. However, if you switch the voice to British English or 
Australian English, the message reads fine. I do still do not have an 
explanation for this problem. I Will copy Apple accessibility on this message 
to see if we can get an answer. I will keep you posted.

Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-01-28, at 2:07 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

> Check this out
> 
> http://www.applevis.com/blog/advocacy/ios-61-accessibility-bug-list-fixed-unfixed-and-new-bugs
> 
> Richard
> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
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Yahoo mailing address

2013-01-28 Thread Jennie Facer
How do I set up yahoo mail on my phone?

Thank you so much!

Jenn

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Re: iOS 6 untethered Jailbreak

2013-01-28 Thread Kliphton A M
I heard super bole sunday will be the day it hits the web.
On Jan 28, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hello Listers,
>  
> I am not a jailbreaker, but I thought I briefly share this since I know it 
> has come up before.
>  
> According to Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast an untethered Jailbreak for 
> iOS 6 is apparently ready and will be released soon. They were waiting for 
> iOS 6.1 to be released in order to make sure Apple couldn’t change anything 
> last minute to make it not work. Now that iOS 6.1 is out the Jailbreak 
> shouldn’t be far behind.
>  
> I did just come across something when I was looking for changes and 
> improvements in iOS 6.1 which said that if you are planning to Jailbreak you 
> should upgrade via iTunes and not via WiFi. It was just a headline and I 
> didn’t look into it and since I don’t really know much about Jailbreaking I 
> can’t say why this would make a difference. But I know Raul and others who do 
> about this may chime in and in the meantime at least it may be of use to 
> somebody who is planning to jailbreak and who hasn’t updated over WiFi yet. 
> At least you can look into this and confirm whether it is correct.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
>  
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RE: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update to 6.1

2013-01-28 Thread Joseph Lee

Hi,
The first setup screen is just the intro screen.  When you double 
tap the language message, you'll come to the first setup screen.  
If you lock your screen or restart your device, you have to go 
through this setup process.

Cheers,
Joseph
- Original Message -
From: "Eileen Misrahi" Subject: RE: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update 
to 6.1


Hi,

Do you mean that if one gets a list of languages that their 
device is

unlocked? Please advise.

Thanks.

Eileen

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf

Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update 
to 6.1


Hi,

Yes.  This is normal.  Your update is complete.  The different 
languages is
the unlock button.  Since it doesn't know what language you 
speak, it goes
through all of them.  Just double tap that button, and you will 
be on the

setup screen, and voiceover will be on and in english.  lol.

Ricardo Walker
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On Jan 28, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Mark BurningHawk 

wrote:

Hi all:

I turned on my Ipad, got the software update message, clicked 
Install and
hit the I Agree button.  It did its thing, VoiceOver came on, 
said, "Ipad,
image."  Then, the only other thing I could elicit, other than 
the status
bar, were different languages, some of which VoiceOver couldn't 
pronounced.
Double-tapping on the Ipad image (English version) did nothing.  
My screen
locks up almost immediately, and though I can unlock it with a 
single tap of

the home button, I get the same, very restricted behavior.

My question is, is this normal?  How long should the update 
take?  It's
been a good ten minutes or so that my Ipad 3 has been like this.  
When I

tried to shut it down, the shut-down routine didn't happen.

So.  What should I expect here?
Thanks.  :)


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RE: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update to 6.1

2013-01-28 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hi, 

Do you mean that if one gets a list of languages that their device is
unlocked? Please advise. 

Thanks. 

Eileen 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update to 6.1

Hi,

Yes.  This is normal. Your update is complete. The different languages is
the unlock button.  Since it doesn't know what language you speak, it goes
through all of them.  Just double tap that button, and you will be on the
setup screen, and voiceover will be on and in english. lol.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jan 28, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Mark BurningHawk 
wrote:

> Hi all:
> 
> I turned on my Ipad, got the software update message, clicked Install and
hit the I Agree button.  It did its thing, VoiceOver came on, said, "Ipad,
image."  Then, the only other thing I could elicit, other than the status
bar, were different languages, some of which VoiceOver couldn't pronounced.
Double-tapping on the Ipad image (English version) did nothing.  My screen
locks up almost immediately, and though I can unlock it with a single tap of
the home button, I get the same, very restricted behavior.
> 
> My question is, is this normal?  How long should the update take?  It's
been a good ten minutes or so that my Ipad 3 has been like this.  When I
tried to shut it down, the shut-down routine didn't happen.  
> 
> So.  What should I expect here?
> Thanks. :)
> 
> 
>  . Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>  . AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969  . MSN:  
> burninghawk1...@hotmail.com  . My home page:
>  . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
> 
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Notification list

2013-01-28 Thread Marissa
Just curious, if anyone has downloaded iOS 6.1, knows if when double tapping on 
the notification list in voiceover will the notifications be able to be viewed 
in voiceover will be able to read them?

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Voiceover volume during a call and call duration announcement in iOS 6.1

2013-01-28 Thread Marissa
Just so you are aware, the only time I have experienced voiceover announcing 
the minutes that you have been on the call is if you lock the screen, and 
voiceover is focused on the individuals name or number, This is evident in iOS 
6.1 At least for me

Marissa

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Re: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update to 6.1

2013-01-28 Thread Robert Fenton
Double tap where it says iPad and you should be fine. You may have to reset 
your iCloud password if applicable. Finally, you may be required to confirm the 
email address and phone numbers for receiving my messages. Apart from that, 
your installation is proceeding properly.

Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-01-28, at 2:43 PM, Mark BurningHawk  wrote:

> Hi all:
> 
> I turned on my Ipad, got the software update message, clicked Install and hit 
> the I Agree button.  It did its thing, VoiceOver came on, said, "Ipad, 
> image."  Then, the only other thing I could elicit, other than the status 
> bar, were different languages, some of which VoiceOver couldn't pronounced.  
> Double-tapping on the Ipad image (English version) did nothing.  My screen 
> locks up almost immediately, and though I can unlock it with a single tap of 
> the home button, I get the same, very restricted behavior.
> 
> My question is, is this normal?  How long should the update take?  It's been 
> a good ten minutes or so that my Ipad 3 has been like this.  When I tried to 
> shut it down, the shut-down routine didn't happen.  
> 
> So.  What should I expect here?
> Thanks. :)
> 
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Re: TV Guide is Blind Friendly and best of all, free too!

2013-01-28 Thread MamaPeach

Who is the developer?

-Original Message- 
From: Dulce Weisenborn

Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: TV Guide is Blind Friendly and best of all, free too!

Which app is it?  There are several listed.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: TV Guide is Blind Friendly and best of all, free too!

Last night I tried TV Guide and was amazed.  Not only is it free but it's
blind friendly too.  When I first got the app installed, it asks you to
select a provider such as cable or local channels.  I have Cox Cable and
selected that and let then use my zip code to provide content.

Once the quick setup was finished here's what I found.  The present 30
minute such as 7 or 7:30 is shown.  flick right to move through upward
through the channels.  As you do so, what's on as of that time is shown.
For example, let's say it's CBS.  If you want to see the schedule for that
channel because you know two and a half men is coming on tonight but you
don't know exactly when.  Just double and that brings up the list of what is

on from the present time forward.  You can also bring up a search box so you

can type in what your looking for.  I found the app very easy to use and
very blind friendly.  Just thought you might like to know too.
- Original Message - 
From: "MamaPeach" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: Possible Accessible App. Free. LocateTV



There is a peaker item selector. It will say 1 of however many channels
that your cable company offers. Once you land on the peaker item, simply
swipe up to change it. Then when you land on a channel that you want,
double tap on it, the listings will then show for like a two or three hour



time frame for the channel you chose.

-Original Message- 
From: Beverly

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible Accessible App. Free. LocateTV

How were you able to find the TV listings? It says that I have selected tv
listings, but I can't figure out how to read them.


Beverly

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- Original Message - 
From: "MamaPeach" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 5:28 PM
Subject: Possible Accessible App. Free. LocateTV



I haven't been able to tell if this app is totally 100 percent accessible
with VoiceOver, but the TV Listing portion is very accessible.
App Information:
Name Of App: LocateTV
The developer is LocateTV
This app is FREE
LocateTV is a unique TV guide that connects you to whatever you want to
watch, however you want to watch it, whether it's on TV, online, or on
DVD. And now you can have the power of LocateTV in a handy travel size
app!
We cater for the US and the UK, so just set your region and we'll deliver



listings specific to your area.
Not only do we provide you with a full TV guide and a Now and Next
feature, we can also tailor your schedule to fit you. With the Favorite
Channel option you can reorder your list using drag and drop to create a
personal TV schedule, based on the channels you're interested in!
But as TV fans, we know you don't just want to see what's on but also
who's on. With LocateTV you can keep up-to-date with your favorite actors



and find out exclusively when they're on TV.
We also have direct links to online episodes and movies, so if you find
something you want to watch, we'll take you straight there from your
mobile.
So whether you're catching up or forward planning, LocateTV is the
answer!
This application requires an active Internet connection to provide a
unique iPhone/iPod Touch experience of features offered on the LocateTV
website
www.locatetv.com
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Re: My medical info.

2013-01-28 Thread MamaPeach
I LOVE IT!

From: JoJo and Clinton 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 1:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: My medical info.

I downloaded my medical info and it appears to be very accessible with 
VoiceOver.  I think it's going to turn out to be a very handy app.

JoJo
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Re: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm not sure what you're asking for here, since you didn't include the
message you're replying to. The IOS 6.1 update is in Settings -> General
-> Software Updates.

There was also a question about YouTube with this same subject line. You
can get the Google YouTube app from the App Store.

This is all true for the iPhone, and I would assume for the iPad as well.

On 28/01/13 15:13, Mark BurningHawk wrote:
> Okay, can you point me at it for the Ipad 3?  I haven't found it on the home 
> screen nor a mention of it in settings.  It's hiding..
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Re: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

There are improvements to iTunes Match. YOu can delete albums or tracks, which 
wasn't possible before. You can also download individual songs as well as 
albums or playlists. Unfortunately, though, the Download All button for albums 
isn't accessible. Still, it's nice to have more control over how iTunes Match 
works.

If you have iTunes Match and play tracks that aren't on your phone, they are 
streamed, rather than downloaded.

Best,
Anna



On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> As far as accessibility, I don't think you can find that anywhere. haha.  On 
> general fixes and updates, you can read about that here
> http://9to5mac.com/2013/01/28/apple-releases-ios-6-1-with-more-lte-carrier-support-siri-movie-tickets-itunes-match-enhancement/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+9To5Mac-MacAllDay+%289+to+5+Mac+-+Apple+Intelligence%29
> 
> You might have to copy and paste that into your browser.
> 
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> 
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:21 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Where can one find detail on what the upgrade offers, in general and for 
>> accessibility?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Keith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Ricardo Walker
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:18 PM
>> To: viphone
>> Cc: Macvisionaries
>> Subject: IOS 6.1 is available
>> 
>> Hello list,
>> 
>> I just wanted to inform you guys and gals that IOS 6.1 is now available on 
>> iPhones, iPads, iPod touches, and Apple TVs.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
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iOS 6 untethered Jailbreak

2013-01-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Listers,

 

I am not a jailbreaker, but I thought I briefly share this since I know it
has come up before.

 

According to Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast an untethered Jailbreak for
iOS 6 is apparently ready and will be released soon. They were waiting for
iOS 6.1 to be released in order to make sure Apple couldn't change anything
last minute to make it not work. Now that iOS 6.1 is out the Jailbreak
shouldn't be far behind.

 

I did just come across something when I was looking for changes and
improvements in iOS 6.1 which said that if you are planning to Jailbreak you
should upgrade via iTunes and not via WiFi. It was just a headline and I
didn't look into it and since I don't really know much about Jailbreaking I
can't say why this would make a difference. But I know Raul and others who
do about this may chime in and in the meantime at least it may be of use to
somebody who is planning to jailbreak and who hasn't updated over WiFi yet.
At least you can look into this and confirm whether it is correct.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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Re: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update to 6.1

2013-01-28 Thread Mark BurningHawk
It wasn't quite that straightforward. I unlocked the screen, swiped over to the 
languages area, turned the rotor to Language, one-finger flicked up until I 
heard Default, split-tapped, problem fixed.  Not readily apparent, but with 
head-scratching, soluble.

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Voiceover volume during a call and call duration announcement in iOS 6.1

2013-01-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello List,

 

I just tested 2 areas which bothered me in iOS 6.0 and 6.0.1.

 

On my iPhone 4S I was not able to adjust Voiceover volume during a call to a
level where I could comfortable hear it over the phone call when the phone
was on speakerphone. This was especially an issue during calls where I had
to enter a bunch of numbers , e.g. when I call my telephone banking line
etc.

After updating to iOS 6.1 this is unfortunately not significantly improved.
If I turn the call volume up as high as it goes with the volume buttons and
also turn the rotor to Volume and flick up to 100% I can hear Voiceover at
least so it's useable. Of course it also makes the call rather loud and
depending on which number I touch Voiceover volume seems to waver up and
down. It might be a bit better, but at least on my phone it's not what I
would call fixed.

 

The periodic announcement of the call duration while on a phone call on the
other hand does seem to have been fixed. I called my cell from from my VoIP
business line and stayed on the call for over 3 minutes and Voiceover didn't
say a thing. In between I took the phone away from my ear and Voiceover
actually seemed to be focused on the phone number and call duration, but it
did not announce it. I hope this was not just a fluke and that this is
indeed the case because especially if you use a headset and have the phone
tucked away under a jacket having to dig it out to move focus away from the
call duration was rather inconvenient.

 

I look forward to more findings, but I certainly haven't noticed anything
bad yet that is a new bug.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update to 6.1

2013-01-28 Thread Mark BurningHawk
Okay, I got it now; needed to use the rotor turned to Language to get the 
language, default, I needed.  Tricky but complete, Icloud updated, all good, 
thanks! big smiles.

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re: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update to 6.1

2013-01-28 Thread Joseph Lee

Hi,
When this comes up, double-tap Continue button or double-tap the 
language string itself (the bottom-most string).  Then the 
regular setup screen will pop up.

Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
From: Mark BurningHawk Subject: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update to 
6.1


Hi all:

I turned on my Ipad, got the software update message, clicked 
Install and hit the I Agree button.  It did its thing, VoiceOver 
came on, said, "Ipad, image."  Then, the only other thing I could 
elicit, other than the status bar, were different languages, some 
of which VoiceOver couldn't pronounced.  Double-tapping on the 
Ipad image (English version) did nothing.  My screen locks up 
almost immediately, and though I can unlock it with a single tap 
of the home button, I get the same, very restricted behavior.


My question is, is this normal?  How long should the update take?  
It's been a good ten minutes or so that my Ipad 3 has been like 
this.  When I tried to shut it down, the shut-down routine didn't 
happen.


So.  What should I expect here?
Thanks.  :)


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Re: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update to 6.1

2013-01-28 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Mark,

It sounds like you need to do a bit of setup. The message in multiple languages 
is saying to slide to start setup. Unlock the screen, follow the prompts, and 
everything should be fine.

Best,
Anna



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> Hi all:
> 
> I turned on my Ipad, got the software update message, clicked Install and hit 
> the I Agree button.  It did its thing, VoiceOver came on, said, "Ipad, 
> image."  Then, the only other thing I could elicit, other than the status 
> bar, were different languages, some of which VoiceOver couldn't pronounced.  
> Double-tapping on the Ipad image (English version) did nothing.  My screen 
> locks up almost immediately, and though I can unlock it with a single tap of 
> the home button, I get the same, very restricted behavior.
> 
> My question is, is this normal?  How long should the update take?  It's been 
> a good ten minutes or so that my Ipad 3 has been like this.  When I tried to 
> shut it down, the shut-down routine didn't happen.  
> 
> So.  What should I expect here?
> Thanks. :)
> 
> 
>  • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
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Re: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update to 6.1

2013-01-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Yes.  This is normal. Your update is complete. The different languages is the 
unlock button.  Since it doesn't know what language you speak, it goes through 
all of them.  Just double tap that button, and you will be on the setup screen, 
and voiceover will be on and in english. lol.

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> Hi all:
> 
> I turned on my Ipad, got the software update message, clicked Install and hit 
> the I Agree button.  It did its thing, VoiceOver came on, said, "Ipad, 
> image."  Then, the only other thing I could elicit, other than the status 
> bar, were different languages, some of which VoiceOver couldn't pronounced.  
> Double-tapping on the Ipad image (English version) did nothing.  My screen 
> locks up almost immediately, and though I can unlock it with a single tap of 
> the home button, I get the same, very restricted behavior.
> 
> My question is, is this normal?  How long should the update take?  It's been 
> a good ten minutes or so that my Ipad 3 has been like this.  When I tried to 
> shut it down, the shut-down routine didn't happen.  
> 
> So.  What should I expect here?
> Thanks. :)
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worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update to 6.1

2013-01-28 Thread Mark BurningHawk
Hi all:

I turned on my Ipad, got the software update message, clicked Install and hit 
the I Agree button.  It did its thing, VoiceOver came on, said, "Ipad, image."  
Then, the only other thing I could elicit, other than the status bar, were 
different languages, some of which VoiceOver couldn't pronounced.  
Double-tapping on the Ipad image (English version) did nothing.  My screen 
locks up almost immediately, and though I can unlock it with a single tap of 
the home button, I get the same, very restricted behavior.

My question is, is this normal?  How long should the update take?  It's been a 
good ten minutes or so that my Ipad 3 has been like this.  When I tried to shut 
it down, the shut-down routine didn't happen.  

So.  What should I expect here?
Thanks. :)


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Re: Siri + update progress?

2013-01-28 Thread Mark BurningHawk
Perfect, that's what I"ll ask her.  When she comes back.  About how long should 
this update take?  Right now, it just says "Ipad, image," and then locks my 
screen. I assume it's doing something, but I can't do anything, so how long 
should it take? *worried frown*
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Re: changing from landscape to portrait mode

2013-01-28 Thread Pablo Morales
Oh, but it is something that each app needs to control, it is not
something like notificatio0ns that we can select which apps gives or
not notifications.
Well, I think that I prefer it locked as portrit, I don't know why is
easyer for me handle apps in this way.
Thanks
Pablo

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> Check out a podcast on AppleVis done by Cherokee Eagle. It's far down the
> list, so search for "Cherokee Eagle" on the site, and you should find it.
> This podcast talks about the app-switcher and its different functions.
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Re: Features new in iOS 6.1

2013-01-28 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

According to the Applevis article that was posted earlier, this has been fixed 
in iOS 6.1.

Best,
Anna



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> what bout labeling things with VO, has someone tried to do it with the IOs 
> 6.1?
> P
> 
> On 1/28/13, Joseph Lee  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I too have upgraded my 4S to 6.1 this morning.
>> A few things I found:
>> * Mail app bug with message list: the issue of first message
>> being focused after reading a message further down the list is
>> still there.
>> * Example pass added: Apple put an example pass in Passbook.
>> When you open Passboo, you'll see an Apple logo and you'll see a
>> more concise explanation of Passbook functionality.  When you tap
>> "learn more" button, you'll come to an example pass from Apple.
>> Tap "done" to return.
>> * Music controls in lock screen: When you're on lock screen,
>> double-tap Home button to toggle between display of alerts and
>> music controls.
>> 
>> Releasing 6.1 could mean two things this year:
>> * Apple might hold an event in March, announccing 6.1.1 or 6.2
>> then.
>> * Apple might release 6.2 or 7.0 this summer (7.0 would indeed be
>> previewed this summer, if pattern holds).
>> Please tell us if there are other features you find - both
>> overall ones and VoiceOver specific ones.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
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Re: Siri

2013-01-28 Thread Marissa
This is a question, related to Siri, the weather, and voiceover. I have also 
noticed that when using Siri to ask the weather, the weather will be brought up 
from my location, without initial problems however, when I use voice over to 
read the information related to the weather like the highs and lows things of 
that nature, voiceover will not read it is that a bug? any work around?

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re: hot spot

2013-01-28 Thread Joseph Lee

Hi,
Go to Settings/Gcheral/Cellular and you'll see hotspot status.
Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
From: Robert Doc Wright I just upgraded my plan to one that has the hot spot feature.  
Where do I go

on the phone to check to see if its on
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Re: Siri

2013-01-28 Thread Joseph Lee

Hi,
You can say:
"What can I say?"
This will open a list of commands you can perform using Siri.  
The ones I use frequently are ones related to opening an app or 
weather.

Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
From: Mark BurningHawk Can I get a list of things I can say to Siri?  I"m about to do 
the update to 6.1 on my Ipad 3 and I'd like to know what I can 
ask Siri to do.  E.G.  Can I tell Siri to Skype someone in my 
contacts?  Etc.  Thanks.


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Re: Siri

2013-01-28 Thread Mark BurningHawk
Can I get a list of things I can say to Siri?  I"m about to do the update to 
6.1 on my Ipad 3 and I'd like to know what I can ask Siri to do.  E.G. Can I 
tell Siri to Skype someone in my contacts?  Etc.  Thanks. 

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Re: Features new in iOS 6.1

2013-01-28 Thread Pablo Morales
what bout labeling things with VO, has someone tried to do it with the IOs 6.1?
P

On 1/28/13, Joseph Lee  wrote:
> Hi,
> I too have upgraded my 4S to 6.1 this morning.
> A few things I found:
> * Mail app bug with message list: the issue of first message
> being focused after reading a message further down the list is
> still there.
> * Example pass added: Apple put an example pass in Passbook.
> When you open Passboo, you'll see an Apple logo and you'll see a
> more concise explanation of Passbook functionality.  When you tap
> "learn more" button, you'll come to an example pass from Apple.
> Tap "done" to return.
> * Music controls in lock screen: When you're on lock screen,
> double-tap Home button to toggle between display of alerts and
> music controls.
>
> Releasing 6.1 could mean two things this year:
> * Apple might hold an event in March, announccing 6.1.1 or 6.2
> then.
> * Apple might release 6.2 or 7.0 this summer (7.0 would indeed be
> previewed this summer, if pattern holds).
> Please tell us if there are other features you find - both
> overall ones and VoiceOver specific ones.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
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hot spot

2013-01-28 Thread Robert Doc Wright
I just upgraded my plan to one that has the hot spot feature. Where do I go 
on the phone to check to see if its on
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Re: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Mark BurningHawk
Okay, can you point me at it for the Ipad 3?  I haven't found it on the home 
screen nor a mention of it in settings.  It's hiding..

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Features new in iOS 6.1

2013-01-28 Thread Joseph Lee

Hi,
I too have upgraded my 4S to 6.1 this morning.
A few things I found:
* Mail app bug with message list: the issue of first message 
being focused after reading a message further down the list is 
still there.
* Example pass added: Apple put an example pass in Passbook.  
When you open Passboo, you'll see an Apple logo and you'll see a 
more concise explanation of Passbook functionality.  When you tap 
"learn more" button, you'll come to an example pass from Apple.  
Tap "done" to return.
* Music controls in lock screen: When you're on lock screen, 
double-tap Home button to toggle between display of alerts and 
music controls.


Releasing 6.1 could mean two things this year:
* Apple might hold an event in March, announccing 6.1.1 or 6.2 
then.
* Apple might release 6.2 or 7.0 this summer (7.0 would indeed be 
previewed this summer, if pattern holds).
Please tell us if there are other features you find - both 
overall ones and VoiceOver specific ones.

Cheers,
Joseph

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Re: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Mark BurningHawk
Hey, wasn't Weather Bug the app that Yahoo used to put all that malware onto 
Windows XP PCs back in the early aughts?

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Re: Siri

2013-01-28 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

Siri sends everything you say to a server for processing. my guess is that 30 
seconds is about as much information as it can handle at a time. If you need 
your message to be longer, just stop dictation, wait for what you dictated to 
be entered, and start dictation again to do the rest.

Best,
Anna



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> This is very interesting, yes, sometimes my texts can be a bit longer. Why is 
> it that you can only dictate for 30 seconds was Siri I thought you could 
> write a lengthy text messages. What is the point of using Siri then? If I 
> have a lengthy text, is my best option to dictate it, send it and then 
> dictate the rest? Does the 30 second rule, applying to using headsets 
> provided by Apple as well? I was able to dictate for longer before I upgraded 
> to iOS six , The phone's screen did not lock up and let me dictate the entire 
> text in iOS 5 running voiceover.
> 
> Just as an FYI in addition, I had it where I asked Siri the weather and have 
> voice over running. And the screen locks up is that because Siri expects you 
> to answer quickly?
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Re: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Grant Hardy
This release of iOS 6.1 came with a nice surprise. It appears that all
the streaming issues I have been experiencing with internet radio have
cleared up. I'm very happy.

If you are experiencing problems playing internet radio streams on
your iPhone 5 and this is important to you, try this latest update.

Grant

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Re: Siri

2013-01-28 Thread David Chittenden
It is amusing how memory changes over time.

The 30 second time limit has always been there. Dictation is done using Dragon 
Dictation, and Dragon Dictation on iOS has always had this time limit.

All you do is continue the dictation to keep adding text to the file.

For text messages, the receiver receives multiple messages because text 
messages are limited to 144 characters per message.

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Sent from my iPhone

On 29/01/2013, at 9:55, Marissa  wrote:

> This is very interesting, yes, sometimes my texts can be a bit longer. Why is 
> it that you can only dictate for 30 seconds was Siri I thought you could 
> write a lengthy text messages. What is the point of using Siri then? If I 
> have a lengthy text, is my best option to dictate it, send it and then 
> dictate the rest? Does the 30 second rule, applying to using headsets 
> provided by Apple as well? I was able to dictate for longer before I upgraded 
> to iOS six , The phone's screen did not lock up and let me dictate the entire 
> text in iOS 5 running voiceover.
> 
> Just as an FYI in addition, I had it where I asked Siri the weather and have 
> voice over running. And the screen locks up is that because Siri expects you 
> to answer quickly?
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iOS 6.1 and accessibility from Applevis

2013-01-28 Thread Richard Turner
Check this out

http://www.applevis.com/blog/advocacy/ios-61-accessibility-bug-list-fixed-unfixed-and-new-bugs

Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)

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RE: iOS 6.1 appears to be rolling out

2013-01-28 Thread Cristobal
Came across it on an online blog. Went into my settings, general, software
update and after checking for an update, there it was.

 

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Of matthew Dyer
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 6.1 appears to be rolling out

 

Hi,

 

Did you check for it manualy or did you get a notification?  Just wondered.
Thanks.

 

Matthew

 

 

On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Cristobal wrote:





So for any of those who wish to get the jump on it, it appears that iOS 6.1
is rolling out. The update is showing up on my phone, but I'm not somewhere
where I can back up first so I'll put it off till I can do later today.

As always, I'm curious to see what if any accessibility improvements/fixes
may have been included.

 

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Re: Apple Maps- Current Location Not Announced- what am I doing wrong?

2013-01-28 Thread Grant Hardy
I think he's talking about monitoring your current location using the
tracking option, rather than turn-by-turn directions. That should work
on the iPhone 4 as it uses VoiceOver to speak the information, yes?

On 1/28/13, David Chittenden  wrote:
> Announcements are spoken when the screen is locked using maps in
> turn-by-turn navigation mode on a 4S or higher. Siri is used for this
> function. As the person has a 4, this function is not available.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
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> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 29/01/2013, at 7:28, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Mostly, flicking to the current location works for me. Sometimes while I'm
>> walking, Maps will stop reporting it for a bit, but then it starts up
>> again. Be sure either Tracking or Tracking with Headings is on.
>>
>> I imagine the announcements will only happen if the screen is unlocked, so
>> try turning off the automatic screen lock when you are walking while using
>> Maps. I think it's turn-by-turn driving directions that are spoken when
>> the screen is locked. I could be wrong about that, though.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:12 PM, "Don & Cher Bosch"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> I’m apparently not doing something correctly using an iPhone4:
>>> 1)  How do you ‘select’ current location in order to have it
>>> announced as you walk? Have tried just flicking to it and also double
>>> tapping- which opens the search box. Accidentally had it work briefly one
>>> time but can’t reproduce.
>>> 2)   How do you keep announcements coming after the phone has locked
>>> the screen?
>>> Have read several posts and searched archives but still missing
>>> something.
>>>
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Phone Drive Question

2013-01-28 Thread Les Kriegler
I am trying to copy a group of files that I placed in a folder on our PC to our 
iPad, original model.  PhoneDrive is installed and running on the iPad and I 
have iTunes open on our PC.  I cannot figure out how to highlight the Phone 
Drive app , nor can I figure out how to add files to bring them over to the 
iPad from the PC.  If anyone can assist, please let me know.  Thanks.

Les

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Re: Siri

2013-01-28 Thread Marissa
This is very interesting, yes, sometimes my texts can be a bit longer. Why is 
it that you can only dictate for 30 seconds was Siri I thought you could write 
a lengthy text messages. What is the point of using Siri then? If I have a 
lengthy text, is my best option to dictate it, send it and then dictate the 
rest? Does the 30 second rule, applying to using headsets provided by Apple as 
well? I was able to dictate for longer before I upgraded to iOS six , The 
phone's screen did not lock up and let me dictate the entire text in iOS 5 
running voiceover.

 Just as an FYI in addition, I had it where I asked Siri the weather and have 
voice over running. And the screen locks up is that because Siri expects you to 
answer quickly?

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Re: iOS 6.1 appears to be rolling out

2013-01-28 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I didn't get a notification, but I checked for it manually, and it was
there.

On 28/01/13 14:39, matthew Dyer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Did you check for it manualy or did you get a notification?  Just
> wondered.  Thanks.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Cristobal wrote:
> 
>> So for any of those who wish to get the jump on it, it appears that
>> iOS 6.1 is rolling out. The update is showing up on my phone, but I’m
>> not somewhere where I can back up first so I’ll put it off till I can
>> do later today.
>> As always, I’m curious to see what if any accessibility
>> improvements/fixes may have been included.
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Re: Apple Maps- Current Location Not Announced- what am I doing wrong?

2013-01-28 Thread David Chittenden
Announcements are spoken when the screen is locked using maps in turn-by-turn 
navigation mode on a 4S or higher. Siri is used for this function. As the 
person has a 4, this function is not available.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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On 29/01/2013, at 7:28, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Mostly, flicking to the current location works for me. Sometimes while I'm 
> walking, Maps will stop reporting it for a bit, but then it starts up again. 
> Be sure either Tracking or Tracking with Headings is on.
> 
> I imagine the announcements will only happen if the screen is unlocked, so 
> try turning off the automatic screen lock when you are walking while using 
> Maps. I think it's turn-by-turn driving directions that are spoken when the 
> screen is locked. I could be wrong about that, though.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:12 PM, "Don & Cher Bosch" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> I’m apparently not doing something correctly using an iPhone4:
>> 1)  How do you ‘select’ current location in order to have it announced 
>> as you walk? Have tried just flicking to it and also double tapping- which 
>> opens the search box. Accidentally had it work briefly one time but can’t 
>> reproduce.
>> 2)   How do you keep announcements coming after the phone has locked the 
>> screen?
>> Have read several posts and searched archives but still missing something.
>> 
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Re: iOS 6.1 appears to be rolling out

2013-01-28 Thread matthew Dyer
Hi,

Did you check for it manualy or did you get a notification?  Just wondered.  
Thanks.

Matthew


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> is rolling out. The update is showing up on my phone, but I’m not somewhere 
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Re: Siri

2013-01-28 Thread David Chittenden
Siri is only for 30 seconds max each time. 

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On 29/01/2013, at 8:50, Marissa  wrote:

> Dear list,
> I have my iPhone 4S pointed to get into the Apple Store tomorrow, but this 
> question is a bit different, it's upgraded to iOS 6.1 and I wonder voiceover, 
> in conjunction with Siri, I have noticed, that when I use Siri to dictate 
> very long text messages, and my iPhone is set to never autolock, that my 
> screen will suddenly lock as if to not allow me to continue composing/sending 
> the text message I remember, a previous few threads about this in this list. 
> And I noticed that it still happening with iOS 6.1 at least on my phone is 
> this an iOS issue? For this experiment, I am using a headset, Running 
> voiceover, and using Siri. Anyone else? Any ideas?
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Re: Siri

2013-01-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Sir and dictation wasn't meant for really long dictation.  I think around 30 
seconds or so.  Are your dictations longer than this?

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On Jan 28, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Marissa  wrote:

> Dear list,
> I have my iPhone 4S pointed to get into the Apple Store tomorrow, but this 
> question is a bit different, it's upgraded to iOS 6.1 and I wonder voiceover, 
> in conjunction with Siri, I have noticed, that when I use Siri to dictate 
> very long text messages, and my iPhone is set to never autolock, that my 
> screen will suddenly lock as if to not allow me to continue composing/sending 
> the text message I remember, a previous few threads about this in this list. 
> And I noticed that it still happening with iOS 6.1 at least on my phone is 
> this an iOS issue? For this experiment, I am using a headset, Running 
> voiceover, and using Siri. Anyone else? Any ideas?
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Re: iOS 6.1 appears to be rolling out

2013-01-28 Thread Len Burns
I have updated here, with good results.  Among other things, the highly
annoying problem with the audio in games such as Hanging with Friends is
definitely fixed. I would have updated just for that reason.  Still testing.

-Len

On 1/28/2013 10:18 AM, Cristobal wrote:
> So for any of those who wish to get the jump on it, it appears that iOS
> 6.1 is rolling out. The update is showing up on my phone, but I’m not
> somewhere where I can back up first so I’ll put it off till I can do
> later today.
> 
> As always, I’m curious to see what if any accessibility
> improvements/fixes may have been included.
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