Re: having trouble with bluetooth paring

2014-02-09 Thread denise avant
Thank you. Got it now.


Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 8, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 If it doesn't show up in the device list, did you actually put it in pairing
 mode? I don't have the M55, but quite a few people here do including Raul so
 maybe somebody can post how to get it into pairing mode. If it has never
 been paired with the 5S just turning it on will not make it show up as a
 device.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
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 Subject: having trouble with bluetooth paring
 
 Hello all,
 I have an iphone 5S, and one of the name brand bluetooth ear pieces. It is
 the same company that makes the legend. the model is 55. Anyway, when I try
 to pair it with my 5S, it does not even show up in the device list. It did
 work just fine with the 4S. Perhaps this was covered before, so please
 forgive any repetitive posting.
 
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The potential of the dictation function?

2014-02-09 Thread Sandratomkins
Hi there!
I was just playing around with my phone and I opened the notes app. Then, in a 
new note, I started off the dictation function. I then walked into the kitchen, 
where my partner was eating lunch, the radio was playing, and there was some 
ambient noise. I told him I wanted to carry out a small experiment with 
dictation and asked him to talk to me. We then had a short conversation. I 
stopped the dictation function and waited to see how much of the conversation 
my phone had picked up. It actually did very well, probably, digitising about 
30/40% of our conversation. Something I noticed was that when my partner spoke 
the dictation made a new paragraph For him.

So, what do I conclude? I am thinking that the phone has the potential, under 
the right circumstances, to, say, digitise a whole lecture. I think, it would 
need to actually record the lecture first and then take its time over the 
digitising from spoken to text. But I am sure it could actually do it as things 
stand right now. That is, I think it can do it but it with me to have its own 
space for the processing.

Has anyone else played with this function? Perhaps, there is already an app to 
do it? I would be very interested to hear people's comments on this as, I 
think, it may have greater potential, I E, in transcribing radio programs for 
people who  at the   moment can't access them due to hearing loss. Or  for 
students, journalists, and who knows what else?

My thanks for any responses,
Sandy

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Re: The potential of the dictation function?

2014-02-09 Thread Beth G
there is an app called SmartRecord her, but has a transcription service 
attached to it. I have not played with it much, but it looks promising for what 
you're talking about

Beth

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 On Feb 9, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi there!
 I was just playing around with my phone and I opened the notes app. Then, in 
 a new note, I started off the dictation function. I then walked into the 
 kitchen, where my partner was eating lunch, the radio was playing, and there 
 was some ambient noise. I told him I wanted to carry out a small experiment 
 with dictation and asked him to talk to me. We then had a short conversation. 
 I stopped the dictation function and waited to see how much of the 
 conversation my phone had picked up. It actually did very well, probably, 
 digitising about 30/40% of our conversation. Something I noticed was that 
 when my partner spoke the dictation made a new paragraph For him.
 
 So, what do I conclude? I am thinking that the phone has the potential, under 
 the right circumstances, to, say, digitise a whole lecture. I think, it would 
 need to actually record the lecture first and then take its time over the 
 digitising from spoken to text. But I am sure it could actually do it as 
 things stand right now. That is, I think it can do it but it with me to have 
 its own space for the processing.
 
 Has anyone else played with this function? Perhaps, there is already an app 
 to do it? I would be very interested to hear people's comments on this as, I 
 think, it may have greater potential, I E, in transcribing radio programs for 
 people who  at the   moment can't access them due to hearing loss. Or  for 
 students, journalists, and who knows what else?
 
 My thanks for any responses,
 Sandy
 
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Apple Maps Question.

2014-02-09 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hi Folks:

Has anyone had any luck with voice guidance using Apple maps in walking mode?  
If so, are there specific settings that I need to attend too?  Also, is it true 
that the 5S  will automatically choose the correct mode whether driving or 
walking?

Thanks all over the place gang.

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Re: The potential of the dictation function?

2014-02-09 Thread Sandratomkins
Beth,
I am not really talking of a transcription service, I know they already exist, 
but, rather, of the built-in potential of the dictation function. Thanks for 
the suggestion though.

Sandy

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 On 9 Feb 2014, at 13:16, Beth G bethm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 there is an app called SmartRecord her, but has a transcription service 
 attached to it. I have not played with it much, but it looks promising for 
 what you're talking about
 
 Beth
 
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 On Feb 9, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi there!
 I was just playing around with my phone and I opened the notes app. Then, in 
 a new note, I started off the dictation function. I then walked into the 
 kitchen, where my partner was eating lunch, the radio was playing, and there 
 was some ambient noise. I told him I wanted to carry out a small experiment 
 with dictation and asked him to talk to me. We then had a short 
 conversation. I stopped the dictation function and waited to see how much of 
 the conversation my phone had picked up. It actually did very well, 
 probably, digitising about 30/40% of our conversation. Something I noticed 
 was that when my partner spoke the dictation made a new paragraph For him.
 
 So, what do I conclude? I am thinking that the phone has the potential, 
 under the right circumstances, to, say, digitise a whole lecture. I think, 
 it would need to actually record the lecture first and then take its time 
 over the digitising from spoken to text. But I am sure it could actually do 
 it as things stand right now. That is, I think it can do it but it with me 
 to have its own space for the processing.
 
 Has anyone else played with this function? Perhaps, there is already an app 
 to do it? I would be very interested to hear people's comments on this as, I 
 think, it may have greater potential, I E, in transcribing radio programs 
 for people who  at the   moment can't access them due to hearing loss. Or  
 for students, journalists, and who knows what else?
 
 My thanks for any responses,
 Sandy
 
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Re: any google apps for the iPhone that act like ciri

2014-02-09 Thread Mike Arrigo
Google now works very similarly to siri, and some think it's better.
On Feb 7, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Casey cwoll...@wi.rr.com wrote:

 Hi I would like to know.
 If there is any Google apps that you can use on your iPhone that do things 
 like ciri does.
 But if you would like to search for a Phone number for A business or 
 something like you can do on an android.
 That would the name of this app be for the iPhone and is it free and is there 
 A demo of it somewhere we can go and hear it?
 My iPhone isn't jail broken and I really don't want to jail brake it encase 
 anyone is wondering.
 
 
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Re: phones using same apple ID and notes

2014-02-09 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hello,

Delete your iCloud account and then choose to create a new one. I think you'll 
have the option to create an iCloud email address in the process of creating 
your new account. Do that, and use it as your iCloud ID.

Best,
Anna

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 On Feb 7, 2014, at 7:55 PM, DJ grou...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 But how does one set that up once the phones are already set up?  I haven't
 found a way to change iCloud accounts without changing Apple IDs on the
 phone.
 
 DJ
 
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 Of Woody Anna Dresner
 Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:56 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: phones using same apple ID and notes
 
 Hi Brian,
 
 You can share the same Apple ID for purchases but each have your own ID for
 iCloud. That's how my family does it, and it works great. We can share apps,
 books, etc., but we can each back up separately and have our own contacts,
 iMessage and FaceTime each other, and have our own notes. You can get your
 own iCloud addresses easily through iCloud Settings and use those IDs for
 iCloud.
 
 HTH,
 Anna
 
 
 
 On Feb 6, 2014, at 9:52 PM, brian albriton autoharp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My wfe and I share the same apple ID and notes that I make appear on her
 phone and hers appear on mine? How can we remedy  this? We're married but
 the phones don't have to be married. 
 
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Re: The potential of the dictation function?

2014-02-09 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

I think the problem you'd run into is that the processing of dictation on the 
iPhone is done remotely on Apple's servers. As a result, it can only record and 
process 30 seconds of dictation at a time.

Best,
Anna

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi there!
 I was just playing around with my phone and I opened the notes app. Then, in 
 a new note, I started off the dictation function. I then walked into the 
 kitchen, where my partner was eating lunch, the radio was playing, and there 
 was some ambient noise. I told him I wanted to carry out a small experiment 
 with dictation and asked him to talk to me. We then had a short conversation. 
 I stopped the dictation function and waited to see how much of the 
 conversation my phone had picked up. It actually did very well, probably, 
 digitising about 30/40% of our conversation. Something I noticed was that 
 when my partner spoke the dictation made a new paragraph For him.
 
 So, what do I conclude? I am thinking that the phone has the potential, under 
 the right circumstances, to, say, digitise a whole lecture. I think, it would 
 need to actually record the lecture first and then take its time over the 
 digitising from spoken to text. But I am sure it could actually do it as 
 things stand right now. That is, I think it can do it but it with me to have 
 its own space for the processing.
 
 Has anyone else played with this function? Perhaps, there is already an app 
 to do it? I would be very interested to hear people's comments on this as, I 
 think, it may have greater potential, I E, in transcribing radio programs for 
 people who  at the   moment can't access them due to hearing loss. Or  for 
 students, journalists, and who knows what else?
 
 My thanks for any responses,
 Sandy
 
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Thanks and some Positive News

2014-02-09 Thread Terrie Terlau
Hello Kimber, Alex, Patti, Alan, Christopher, Larry, and Sieghard,

I want to thank all of you for your thoughtful suggestions. I worked with
your ideas. You all on this list are so awesome. I was in a position of
being totally stuck and you responded with good suggestions and help.

 

After trying your suggestions, I  talked with ATT Tech Support -- and our
final conclusion was that I should try to back up and then take the phone to
an aTT store where they might need to wipe it. When I opened iTunes on the
PC and connected the phone, the PC made the USB connection sound, the phone
chirped, and Jaws stopped talking not only in iTunes but everywhere else. I
am running a 64 bit version of Windows 7 home. I had to shut down and
restart to get speech. I then repeated the sequence and the same things
happened. I was pretty concerned at that point.

 

I had a sighted friend check Voice Over and it was off. With her help, we
turned it on. I had a great many apps open and I closed them. I then turned
off the phone and left it off for about 15 minutes. So far, it is working at
this point. The puzzling thing, though, and the thing that I am concerned
about, is that when VO went off, it still worked when on phone calls and
when Siri was up. This doesn't sound like what should happen when  VO is
off.

 

Today I backed up the phone with iTunes and things still seem to be working
well. I am about to delete some data from the phone so that I have enough
room to update and then take the plunge. I may see if the ATT store can run
a diagnostic on the phone after I update because I don't like how VO was
partly working and partly not when it showed as off.

 

Thanks again  for all your help.

With appreciation,

Terrie Terlau

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Re: phones using same apple ID and notes

2014-02-09 Thread Alex Hall
Unless I missed something about this situation, you don't need to delete 
anything. Open Settings, then Mail, Contacts, and Calendars. Double tap your 
iCloud account, and enable Mail. You will be prompted to create an iCloud email 
address; do so, and you've got one. Now, go to applied.apple.com, sign in, go 
to your account settings, and change your email address to your iCloud one. If 
the goal is to add an iCloud address to your Apple account, you just did it 
without needing to erase anything. Again, sorry if I missed something here and 
am not giving the instructions for what you are trying to do.

--
Have a great day,
Alex
mehg...@gmail.com



On Feb 9, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Delete your iCloud account and then choose to create a new one. I think 
 you'll have the option to create an iCloud email address in the process of 
 creating your new account. Do that, and use it as your iCloud ID.
 
 Best,
 Anna
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 7, 2014, at 7:55 PM, DJ grou...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 But how does one set that up once the phones are already set up?  I haven't
 found a way to change iCloud accounts without changing Apple IDs on the
 phone.
 
 DJ
 
 -Original Message-
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 Of Woody Anna Dresner
 Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:56 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: phones using same apple ID and notes
 
 Hi Brian,
 
 You can share the same Apple ID for purchases but each have your own ID for
 iCloud. That's how my family does it, and it works great. We can share apps,
 books, etc., but we can each back up separately and have our own contacts,
 iMessage and FaceTime each other, and have our own notes. You can get your
 own iCloud addresses easily through iCloud Settings and use those IDs for
 iCloud.
 
 HTH,
 Anna
 
 
 
 On Feb 6, 2014, at 9:52 PM, brian albriton autoharp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My wfe and I share the same apple ID and notes that I make appear on her
 phone and hers appear on mine? How can we remedy  this? We're married but
 the phones don't have to be married. 
 
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Re: any google apps for the iPhone that act like ciri

2014-02-09 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Casey,

There is a applevis podcast were a gentlemen compared the Google Search 
to Siri.  I'm pretty sure it was the recent versions.

He found advantages to both.  

I like having options so I have the Google search on my phone.  I find 
I don't use it as Siri is built in and even where the Google app was a bit 
faster it was not worth the time to load it and keep it running.
   

The podcast will give you a good indicator of the differences.  If I had a 
Iphone 4 I would find the app useful.

Eric Caron 



On Feb 9, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:

 Google now works very similarly to siri, and some think it's better.
 On Feb 7, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Casey cwoll...@wi.rr.com wrote:
 
 Hi I would like to know.
 If there is any Google apps that you can use on your iPhone that do things 
 like ciri does.
 But if you would like to search for a Phone number for A business or 
 something like you can do on an android.
 That would the name of this app be for the iPhone and is it free and is 
 there A demo of it somewhere we can go and hear it?
 My iPhone isn't jail broken and I really don't want to jail brake it encase 
 anyone is wondering.
 
 
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Re: The potential of the dictation function?

2014-02-09 Thread Craig Werner
Sandra, your post is an example of the imaginative and far-reaching
messages I enjoy reading on this list.  I am so glad folks are
experimenting with the dictation option.  I admit to distrusting it
since it often makes errors which users do not catch through
proofreading, and this sometimes makes them appear careless.
Nevertheless, I agree it is a very worthwhile service.  Perhaps more
than any other group, It benefits those who have difficulty typing or
cannot do so at all.

Craig

On 2/9/14, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi there!
 I was just playing around with my phone and I opened the notes app. Then, in
 a new note, I started off the dictation function. I then walked into the
 kitchen, where my partner was eating lunch, the radio was playing, and there
 was some ambient noise. I told him I wanted to carry out a small experiment
 with dictation and asked him to talk to me. We then had a short
 conversation. I stopped the dictation function and waited to see how much of
 the conversation my phone had picked up. It actually did very well,
 probably, digitising about 30/40% of our conversation. Something I noticed
 was that when my partner spoke the dictation made a new paragraph For him.

 So, what do I conclude? I am thinking that the phone has the potential,
 under the right circumstances, to, say, digitise a whole lecture. I think,
 it would need to actually record the lecture first and then take its time
 over the digitising from spoken to text. But I am sure it could actually do
 it as things stand right now. That is, I think it can do it but it with me
 to have its own space for the processing.

 Has anyone else played with this function? Perhaps, there is already an app
 to do it? I would be very interested to hear people's comments on this as, I
 think, it may have greater potential, I E, in transcribing radio programs
 for people who  at the   moment can't access them due to hearing loss. Or
 for students, journalists, and who knows what else?

 My thanks for any responses,
 Sandy

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RE: Thanks and some Positive News

2014-02-09 Thread Richard Turner
Hi Terrie,

 

I suspect you had the speak selections enabled which voices certain things
whether VO is on or off.

It kind of annoyed my sighted wife that her device would start speaking out
of the blue.  I think that may have added to the confusion for you.

 

I think you will find iOS 7 much better and more stable once you get it set
up.

Once you upgrade, back the phone up again and perhaps the ATT folks can do
the diagnostic to make sure things are running correctly and if not, they
can wipe the phone and reinstall iOS 7.  

 

Good luck,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Terrie Terlau
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2014 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Thanks and some Positive News

 

Hello Kimber, Alex, Patti, Alan, Christopher, Larry, and Sieghard,

I want to thank all of you for your thoughtful suggestions. I worked with
your ideas. You all on this list are so awesome. I was in a position of
being totally stuck and you responded with good suggestions and help.

 

After trying your suggestions, I  talked with ATT Tech Support -- and our
final conclusion was that I should try to back up and then take the phone to
an aTT store where they might need to wipe it. When I opened iTunes on the
PC and connected the phone, the PC made the USB connection sound, the phone
chirped, and Jaws stopped talking not only in iTunes but everywhere else. I
am running a 64 bit version of Windows 7 home. I had to shut down and
restart to get speech. I then repeated the sequence and the same things
happened. I was pretty concerned at that point.

 

I had a sighted friend check Voice Over and it was off. With her help, we
turned it on. I had a great many apps open and I closed them. I then turned
off the phone and left it off for about 15 minutes. So far, it is working at
this point. The puzzling thing, though, and the thing that I am concerned
about, is that when VO went off, it still worked when on phone calls and
when Siri was up. This doesn't sound like what should happen when  VO is
off.

 

Today I backed up the phone with iTunes and things still seem to be working
well. I am about to delete some data from the phone so that I have enough
room to update and then take the plunge. I may see if the ATT store can run
a diagnostic on the phone after I update because I don't like how VO was
partly working and partly not when it showed as off.

 

Thanks again  for all your help.

With appreciation,

Terrie Terlau

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RE: Thanks and some Positive News

2014-02-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Terry,

 

The fact that VO showed as off but seemed to be partly working may not be
anything more than a mess-up in iOS. The restart probably fixed it.

 

I know setting up a phone from scratch is a pain, but when you upgrade to
iOS 7 you might want to consider not restoring from your backup. Issues can
get backed up and if you upgrade and set up as a new phone you won't risk
that. Of course that would mean any text message history you may have will
be lost, not sure if that is a big concern. You can, of course, resync your
apps from iTunes or redownload them and resync any music you may have etc.

 

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Terrie Terlau
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Thanks and some Positive News

 

Hello Kimber, Alex, Patti, Alan, Christopher, Larry, and Sieghard,

I want to thank all of you for your thoughtful suggestions. I worked with
your ideas. You all on this list are so awesome. I was in a position of
being totally stuck and you responded with good suggestions and help.

 

After trying your suggestions, I  talked with ATT Tech Support -- and our
final conclusion was that I should try to back up and then take the phone to
an aTT store where they might need to wipe it. When I opened iTunes on the
PC and connected the phone, the PC made the USB connection sound, the phone
chirped, and Jaws stopped talking not only in iTunes but everywhere else. I
am running a 64 bit version of Windows 7 home. I had to shut down and
restart to get speech. I then repeated the sequence and the same things
happened. I was pretty concerned at that point.

 

I had a sighted friend check Voice Over and it was off. With her help, we
turned it on. I had a great many apps open and I closed them. I then turned
off the phone and left it off for about 15 minutes. So far, it is working at
this point. The puzzling thing, though, and the thing that I am concerned
about, is that when VO went off, it still worked when on phone calls and
when Siri was up. This doesn't sound like what should happen when  VO is
off.

 

Today I backed up the phone with iTunes and things still seem to be working
well. I am about to delete some data from the phone so that I have enough
room to update and then take the plunge. I may see if the ATT store can run
a diagnostic on the phone after I update because I don't like how VO was
partly working and partly not when it showed as off.

 

Thanks again  for all your help.

With appreciation,

Terrie Terlau

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RE: The potential of the dictation function?

2014-02-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Sandra,

Keep in mind that currently SIRI/Dictation is limited to 30 seconds at a
time. Unless you have a very short lecture this probably would not work so
well.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Beth G
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The potential of the dictation function?

there is an app called SmartRecord her, but has a transcription service
attached to it. I have not played with it much, but it looks promising for
what you're talking about

Beth

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 9, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
wrote:
 
 Hi there!
 I was just playing around with my phone and I opened the notes app. Then,
in a new note, I started off the dictation function. I then walked into the
kitchen, where my partner was eating lunch, the radio was playing, and there
was some ambient noise. I told him I wanted to carry out a small experiment
with dictation and asked him to talk to me. We then had a short
conversation. I stopped the dictation function and waited to see how much of
the conversation my phone had picked up. It actually did very well,
probably, digitising about 30/40% of our conversation. Something I noticed
was that when my partner spoke the dictation made a new paragraph For him.
 
 So, what do I conclude? I am thinking that the phone has the potential,
under the right circumstances, to, say, digitise a whole lecture. I think,
it would need to actually record the lecture first and then take its time
over the digitising from spoken to text. But I am sure it could actually do
it as things stand right now. That is, I think it can do it but it with me
to have its own space for the processing.
 
 Has anyone else played with this function? Perhaps, there is already an
app to do it? I would be very interested to hear people's comments on this
as, I think, it may have greater potential, I E, in transcribing radio
programs for people who  at the   moment can't access them due to hearing
loss. Or  for students, journalists, and who knows what else?
 
 My thanks for any responses,
 Sandy
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Addring an address in phone contacts

2014-02-09 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi,

I tried your suggestion. I am still having that problem.

Jenn

Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 8, 2014, at 11:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Jenny,
 
 Empty your app switcher, turn your phone off, wait 30 seconds and then turn
 it on again. Now try what you were doing and see if it will work.
 
 
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 Of Jennie Facer
 Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 4:08 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Addring an address in phone contacts
 
 Hi,
 
 Whenever I try to put an address in a new contact I create, it kicks me out
 of the phone app entirely and doesn't save my work. I double tap on the add
 new address button, and then it kicks me out. Can anyone tell me what I may
 be doing wrong?
 
 Thank you so much!
 
 Jenn
 
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Re: The potential of the dictation function?

2014-02-09 Thread Sandratomkins
Sieghard and Anna,
I am aware of this time cut-off. Which is why I was suggesting that a specific 
app would be necessary. For example, an app that recorded, let's say, an hour 
of speech. Then, in 32nd chunks, would digitise that speech into text. Often, 
when I'm composing a long email message or something in  notes, I may be 
dictating for an hour at least! Obviously, I break off and let the dictation 
function digitise what I have spoken. So, if this can be done in an automated 
fashion within a  large section of recording, I see no reason why it shouldn't 
work!

Taking the idea little further: perhaps, using drop vox, lectures/meetings 
could be uploaded and not processed until required. In this way not too much 
space will be taken up on the phone. I don't know much about these things, but, 
perhaps, it would be possible for this special app (which doesn't exist yet) to 
stream only in 32nd pieces

Are you following my drift at all?
Still musing,
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

 On 9 Feb 2014, at 16:06, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Sandra,
 
 Keep in mind that currently SIRI/Dictation is limited to 30 seconds at a
 time. Unless you have a very short lecture this probably would not work so
 well.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Beth G
 Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:16 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: The potential of the dictation function?
 
 there is an app called SmartRecord her, but has a transcription service
 attached to it. I have not played with it much, but it looks promising for
 what you're talking about
 
 Beth
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 9, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi there!
 I was just playing around with my phone and I opened the notes app. Then,
 in a new note, I started off the dictation function. I then walked into the
 kitchen, where my partner was eating lunch, the radio was playing, and there
 was some ambient noise. I told him I wanted to carry out a small experiment
 with dictation and asked him to talk to me. We then had a short
 conversation. I stopped the dictation function and waited to see how much of
 the conversation my phone had picked up. It actually did very well,
 probably, digitising about 30/40% of our conversation. Something I noticed
 was that when my partner spoke the dictation made a new paragraph For him.
 
 So, what do I conclude? I am thinking that the phone has the potential,
 under the right circumstances, to, say, digitise a whole lecture. I think,
 it would need to actually record the lecture first and then take its time
 over the digitising from spoken to text. But I am sure it could actually do
 it as things stand right now. That is, I think it can do it but it with me
 to have its own space for the processing.
 
 Has anyone else played with this function? Perhaps, there is already an
 app to do it? I would be very interested to hear people's comments on this
 as, I think, it may have greater potential, I E, in transcribing radio
 programs for people who  at the   moment can't access them due to hearing
 loss. Or  for students, journalists, and who knows what else?
 
 My thanks for any responses,
 Sandy
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: The potential of the dictation function?

2014-02-09 Thread BrianMiller
On a related note, does anyone know what the maximum length of a memo one
can record with the built in memo recorder app on the iPhone?  

Thanks!

Brian M


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Craig Werner
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The potential of the dictation function?

Sandra, your post is an example of the imaginative and far-reaching messages
I enjoy reading on this list.  I am so glad folks are experimenting with the
dictation option.  I admit to distrusting it since it often makes errors
which users do not catch through proofreading, and this sometimes makes them
appear careless.
Nevertheless, I agree it is a very worthwhile service.  Perhaps more than
any other group, It benefits those who have difficulty typing or cannot do
so at all.

Craig

On 2/9/14, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi there!
 I was just playing around with my phone and I opened the notes app. 
 Then, in a new note, I started off the dictation function. I then 
 walked into the kitchen, where my partner was eating lunch, the radio 
 was playing, and there was some ambient noise. I told him I wanted to 
 carry out a small experiment with dictation and asked him to talk to 
 me. We then had a short conversation. I stopped the dictation function 
 and waited to see how much of the conversation my phone had picked up. 
 It actually did very well, probably, digitising about 30/40% of our 
 conversation. Something I noticed was that when my partner spoke the
dictation made a new paragraph For him.

 So, what do I conclude? I am thinking that the phone has the 
 potential, under the right circumstances, to, say, digitise a whole 
 lecture. I think, it would need to actually record the lecture first 
 and then take its time over the digitising from spoken to text. But I 
 am sure it could actually do it as things stand right now. That is, I 
 think it can do it but it with me to have its own space for the
processing.

 Has anyone else played with this function? Perhaps, there is already 
 an app to do it? I would be very interested to hear people's comments 
 on this as, I think, it may have greater potential, I E, in transcribing
radio programs
 for people who  at the   moment can't access them due to hearing loss. Or
 for students, journalists, and who knows what else?

 My thanks for any responses,
 Sandy

 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: The potential of the dictation function?

2014-02-09 Thread Mich

o yes I to would like to know this as well. from Mich.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: The potential of the dictation function?



On a related note, does anyone know what the maximum length of a memo one
can record with the built in memo recorder app on the iPhone?

Thanks!

Brian M


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Craig Werner
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The potential of the dictation function?

Sandra, your post is an example of the imaginative and far-reaching 
messages
I enjoy reading on this list.  I am so glad folks are experimenting with 
the

dictation option.  I admit to distrusting it since it often makes errors
which users do not catch through proofreading, and this sometimes makes 
them

appear careless.
Nevertheless, I agree it is a very worthwhile service.  Perhaps more than
any other group, It benefits those who have difficulty typing or cannot do
so at all.

Craig

On 2/9/14, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hi there!
I was just playing around with my phone and I opened the notes app.
Then, in a new note, I started off the dictation function. I then
walked into the kitchen, where my partner was eating lunch, the radio
was playing, and there was some ambient noise. I told him I wanted to
carry out a small experiment with dictation and asked him to talk to
me. We then had a short conversation. I stopped the dictation function
and waited to see how much of the conversation my phone had picked up.
It actually did very well, probably, digitising about 30/40% of our
conversation. Something I noticed was that when my partner spoke the

dictation made a new paragraph For him.


So, what do I conclude? I am thinking that the phone has the
potential, under the right circumstances, to, say, digitise a whole
lecture. I think, it would need to actually record the lecture first
and then take its time over the digitising from spoken to text. But I
am sure it could actually do it as things stand right now. That is, I
think it can do it but it with me to have its own space for the

processing.


Has anyone else played with this function? Perhaps, there is already
an app to do it? I would be very interested to hear people's comments
on this as, I think, it may have greater potential, I E, in transcribing

radio programs

for people who  at the   moment can't access them due to hearing loss. Or
for students, journalists, and who knows what else?

My thanks for any responses,
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: The potential of the dictation function?

2014-02-09 Thread Sandratomkins
Good afternoon Craig,
Thank you for your kind words and I must admit to feeling rather inventive 
today! You should see the storm I'm  stirring up on our local guide dog list!!

I know what you mean about Siri slips. Some of them can be truly imaginative! 
But, often, a word such as all is inserted instead of the word or. This 
can, indeed, give an impression of bad grammar. Yet, because the two words 
sound similar, it is easily overlooked when reading through text. I have 
learnt, over time, to be quite vigilant, but, nevertheless, The odd one still 
gets passed me. I will say this though, if you're lucky enough to have the sort 
of accent that Siri is expecting to understand, its recognition can be truly 
amazing! I, four example, though living in Ireland, I'm originally from England 
and my accent is the sort of BBC one. So, plummy  Daniel, understands me very 
well!

Are used to be a power user of Bluetooth keyboards alongside my iPhone. Now, 
however, I rarely get them out, choosing to use Siri all the time instead.

But, back to the main  point, I am envisaging the potential of the dictation 
function with a specially adapted app, and more as being useful in the 
mainstream. As I said before, students, business people, doctors clinic 
attendees, and so on, all of these people might find it very useful. Because, 
in my humble opinion, if something works well for the mainstream, it will be 
allowed to grow and improve at an exponential rate. Then, those people who may 
have much greater need of it, with  disabilities etc, may well find they have 
an excellent new tool to play with.

Just my thoughts,
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

 On 9 Feb 2014, at 16:36, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On a related note, does anyone know what the maximum length of a memo one
 can record with the built in memo recorder app on the iPhone?  
 
 Thanks!
 
 Brian M
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Craig Werner
 Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:59 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: The potential of the dictation function?
 
 Sandra, your post is an example of the imaginative and far-reaching messages
 I enjoy reading on this list.  I am so glad folks are experimenting with the
 dictation option.  I admit to distrusting it since it often makes errors
 which users do not catch through proofreading, and this sometimes makes them
 appear careless.
 Nevertheless, I agree it is a very worthwhile service.  Perhaps more than
 any other group, It benefits those who have difficulty typing or cannot do
 so at all.
 
 Craig
 
 On 2/9/14, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi there!
 I was just playing around with my phone and I opened the notes app. 
 Then, in a new note, I started off the dictation function. I then 
 walked into the kitchen, where my partner was eating lunch, the radio 
 was playing, and there was some ambient noise. I told him I wanted to 
 carry out a small experiment with dictation and asked him to talk to 
 me. We then had a short conversation. I stopped the dictation function 
 and waited to see how much of the conversation my phone had picked up. 
 It actually did very well, probably, digitising about 30/40% of our 
 conversation. Something I noticed was that when my partner spoke the
 dictation made a new paragraph For him.
 
 So, what do I conclude? I am thinking that the phone has the 
 potential, under the right circumstances, to, say, digitise a whole 
 lecture. I think, it would need to actually record the lecture first 
 and then take its time over the digitising from spoken to text. But I 
 am sure it could actually do it as things stand right now. That is, I 
 think it can do it but it with me to have its own space for the
 processing.
 
 Has anyone else played with this function? Perhaps, there is already 
 an app to do it? I would be very interested to hear people's comments 
 on this as, I think, it may have greater potential, I E, in transcribing
 radio programs
 for people who  at the   moment can't access them due to hearing loss. Or
 for students, journalists, and who knows what else?
 
 My thanks for any responses,
 Sandy
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: The potential of the dictation function?

2014-02-09 Thread SSEric
Does something such as Vlingo have that time restriction? Actually, I'm not 
even sure Vlingo is still around, but it worked very well.



On Feb 9, 2014, at 11:32 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:

Sieghard and Anna,
I am aware of this time cut-off. Which is why I was suggesting that a specific 
app would be necessary. For example, an app that recorded, let's say, an hour 
of speech. Then, in 32nd chunks, would digitise that speech into text. Often, 
when I'm composing a long email message or something in  notes, I may be 
dictating for an hour at least! Obviously, I break off and let the dictation 
function digitise what I have spoken. So, if this can be done in an automated 
fashion within a  large section of recording, I see no reason why it shouldn't 
work!

Taking the idea little further: perhaps, using drop vox, lectures/meetings 
could be uploaded and not processed until required. In this way not too much 
space will be taken up on the phone. I don't know much about these things, but, 
perhaps, it would be possible for this special app (which doesn't exist yet) to 
stream only in 32nd pieces

Are you following my drift at all?
Still musing,
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

 On 9 Feb 2014, at 16:06, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Sandra,
 
 Keep in mind that currently SIRI/Dictation is limited to 30 seconds at a
 time. Unless you have a very short lecture this probably would not work so
 well.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Beth G
 Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:16 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: The potential of the dictation function?
 
 there is an app called SmartRecord her, but has a transcription service
 attached to it. I have not played with it much, but it looks promising for
 what you're talking about
 
 Beth
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 9, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi there!
 I was just playing around with my phone and I opened the notes app. Then,
 in a new note, I started off the dictation function. I then walked into the
 kitchen, where my partner was eating lunch, the radio was playing, and there
 was some ambient noise. I told him I wanted to carry out a small experiment
 with dictation and asked him to talk to me. We then had a short
 conversation. I stopped the dictation function and waited to see how much of
 the conversation my phone had picked up. It actually did very well,
 probably, digitising about 30/40% of our conversation. Something I noticed
 was that when my partner spoke the dictation made a new paragraph For him.
 
 So, what do I conclude? I am thinking that the phone has the potential,
 under the right circumstances, to, say, digitise a whole lecture. I think,
 it would need to actually record the lecture first and then take its time
 over the digitising from spoken to text. But I am sure it could actually do
 it as things stand right now. That is, I think it can do it but it with me
 to have its own space for the processing.
 
 Has anyone else played with this function? Perhaps, there is already an
 app to do it? I would be very interested to hear people's comments on this
 as, I think, it may have greater potential, I E, in transcribing radio
 programs for people who  at the   moment can't access them due to hearing
 loss. Or  for students, journalists, and who knows what else?
 
 My thanks for any responses,
 Sandy
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Justin who did a podcast on the Logitech k760 keyboard

2014-02-09 Thread Craig Werner
Hello, Fanus.

I'm not familiar with the podcast you mentioned, but David Woodbridge,
who works for Vision Australia, has a podcast on the Logitech K760
posted to the AppleVis website.  David does fine work.  He can be
contacted through writing to the Contact mailbox of Vision
Australia.  Messages will be forwarded to him from that mailbox.

Craig

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 Hello list
 Does anyone know how I can get in touch with Justion about
 this BT keyboard?
 Regards
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Re: battery drainage

2014-02-09 Thread Alan Paganelli
The two biggest drains on the iPhone are the Bluetooth radio and WI_FI..  It's 
easy to tell Siri, turn bluetooth off and she'll say I turned Bluetooth off.  
Do the same with WI_FI.  Those are the two biggest battery drains.  So if you 
have no ear peace connected to Bluetooth and your away from your home network, 
you don't need the WI_FI either.  And, it can quickly be turned back on again 
when need be.

HTH


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

 On Feb 8, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers 
 chalmer...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
Hi
 
 Of course it's true that some apps use  more power than others, but if a 
 phone is draining, then the most obvious explanation is that one app or 
 another is using the power and it's just an easy thing to eliminate.
 
 In Mavericks, the battery menu shows you which apps are using significant 
 amounts of power. If there is a similar thing in IOS7, I haven't found it 
 yet. 
 
 Reducing screen brightness is a really good one too. I always thought it 
 counter-intuitive that the screen curtain didn't reduce power use, but them's 
 the breaks.
 
 I have absolutely no authority to back this up, but I am convinced I noticed 
 a reduction in power usage on my 5s after I locked the screen orientation.
 
 Best
 
 Adrienne 
 
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Re: battery drainage

2014-02-09 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I agree wi-fi and bluetooth can drain your battery, but I don't think 
they're the two biggest sources of battery drainage. I think screen 
brightness would be by far the largest drain on your battery, so that's 
the first thing I'd recommend lowering. I have auto brightness turned 
off on my iPhone, and I have brightness set to 10%. This is still bright 
enough so when I ask a sighted person for help, they can still see the 
screen.


I'm not sure where all of these would rank, but automatically fetching 
data, receiving push notifications and using location services would 
also be pretty high up on the list of things that drain your battery the 
most. there are many such articles on tips to control the battery drain 
on your phone, but one such article is at 
http://www.businessinsider.com/better-iphone-battery-life-2013-5


Finally, remember that your iPhone and it's battery are meant to be 
used. Turn off those features you don't need or use, but don't cripple 
the functionality of your device by slavishly turning off everything 
that consumes some battery.


On 02/09/2014 11:29 AM, Alan Paganelli wrote:

The two biggest drains on the iPhone are the Bluetooth radio and WI_FI..  It's 
easy to tell Siri, turn bluetooth off and she'll say I turned Bluetooth off.  
Do the same with WI_FI.  Those are the two biggest battery drains.  So if you 
have no ear peace connected to Bluetooth and your away from your home network, 
you don't need the WI_FI either.  And, it can quickly be turned back on again 
when need be.

HTH


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On Feb 8, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers 
chalmer...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hi

Of course it's true that some apps use  more power than others, but if a phone 
is draining, then the most obvious explanation is that one app or another is 
using the power and it's just an easy thing to eliminate.

In Mavericks, the battery menu shows you which apps are using significant 
amounts of power. If there is a similar thing in IOS7, I haven't found it yet.

Reducing screen brightness is a really good one too. I always thought it 
counter-intuitive that the screen curtain didn't reduce power use, but them's 
the breaks.

I have absolutely no authority to back this up, but I am convinced I noticed a 
reduction in power usage on my 5s after I locked the screen orientation.

Best

Adrienne

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Re: Multiple IOS devices on same iTunes account

2014-02-09 Thread Gmail
Yes. I have to run, so I can't go into anymore detail, but suffice it to say 
that each device can have its own settings in iTunes. Because they recognized 
by iTunes as different devices completely, you can do this.


Thanks,
Ari

 On Feb 8, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Kevin Gibbs kevj...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you have multiple IOS devices onthe same iTunes account on the same Mac, 
 one iPhone, one iPod, one iPad, can they have distinct profiles  with respect 
 to what content is synced to each device?  I want only my music library 
 synced to my iPod.  Whereas, I want my library, photos, mail, contacts and 
 apps sync he'd to my iPhone.  Is this possible?
 
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RE: Apple Maps Question.

2014-02-09 Thread Don and Cher Bosch
By voice guidance, do you mean turn by turn directions?

 

I have used Apple Maps quite a bit to read off addresses as I'm walking or
using public transportation.

 

Cher

 

 

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Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Maps Question.

 

Hi Folks:

 

Has anyone had any luck with voice guidance using Apple maps in walking
mode?  If so, are there specific settings that I need to attend too?  Also,
is it true that the 5S  will automatically choose the correct mode whether
driving or walking?

 

Thanks all over the place gang.

 

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App to Convert Audio to Text? was RE: The potential of the dictation function?

2014-02-09 Thread Alan Lemly
I hate to post a me too message but I was thinking this morning if an app
existed that would let you convert a spoken audio file into text. I know
that programs such as Dragon Naturally speaking do something similar with
the spoken word as does Dictate as Sandy discusses in her message below.
With the technology existing to do the conversion, it would seem possible
that for example, an mp3 file made of a lecture or other spoken content
could be processed and converted to text.

Does anyone know of an app or a computer program that does such a thing?
Alternatively, I would be interested in an app that would let you record and
would also allow you to convert what was recorded to text maybe later after
some offline processing.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sandratomkins
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 6:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The potential of the dictation function?

Hi there!
I was just playing around with my phone and I opened the notes app. Then, in
a new note, I started off the dictation function. I then walked into the
kitchen, where my partner was eating lunch, the radio was playing, and there
was some ambient noise. I told him I wanted to carry out a small experiment
with dictation and asked him to talk to me. We then had a short
conversation. I stopped the dictation function and waited to see how much of
the conversation my phone had picked up. It actually did very well,
probably, digitising about 30/40% of our conversation. Something I noticed
was that when my partner spoke the dictation made a new paragraph For him.

So, what do I conclude? I am thinking that the phone has the potential,
under the right circumstances, to, say, digitise a whole lecture. I think,
it would need to actually record the lecture first and then take its time
over the digitising from spoken to text. But I am sure it could actually do
it as things stand right now. That is, I think it can do it but it with me
to have its own space for the processing.

Has anyone else played with this function? Perhaps, there is already an app
to do it? I would be very interested to hear people's comments on this as, I
think, it may have greater potential, I E, in transcribing radio programs
for people who  at the   moment can't access them due to hearing loss. Or
for students, journalists, and who knows what else?

My thanks for any responses,
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: App to Convert Audio to Text? was RE: The potential of the dictation function?

2014-02-09 Thread Feliciano G
Rev voice recorder but The transcribing service is not free.

  Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone

 On Feb 9, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I hate to post a me too message but I was thinking this morning if an app
 existed that would let you convert a spoken audio file into text. I know
 that programs such as Dragon Naturally speaking do something similar with
 the spoken word as does Dictate as Sandy discusses in her message below.
 With the technology existing to do the conversion, it would seem possible
 that for example, an mp3 file made of a lecture or other spoken content
 could be processed and converted to text.
 
 Does anyone know of an app or a computer program that does such a thing?
 Alternatively, I would be interested in an app that would let you record and
 would also allow you to convert what was recorded to text maybe later after
 some offline processing.
 
 Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
 Alan Lemly
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sandratomkins
 Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 6:32 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: The potential of the dictation function?
 
 Hi there!
 I was just playing around with my phone and I opened the notes app. Then, in
 a new note, I started off the dictation function. I then walked into the
 kitchen, where my partner was eating lunch, the radio was playing, and there
 was some ambient noise. I told him I wanted to carry out a small experiment
 with dictation and asked him to talk to me. We then had a short
 conversation. I stopped the dictation function and waited to see how much of
 the conversation my phone had picked up. It actually did very well,
 probably, digitising about 30/40% of our conversation. Something I noticed
 was that when my partner spoke the dictation made a new paragraph For him.
 
 So, what do I conclude? I am thinking that the phone has the potential,
 under the right circumstances, to, say, digitise a whole lecture. I think,
 it would need to actually record the lecture first and then take its time
 over the digitising from spoken to text. But I am sure it could actually do
 it as things stand right now. That is, I think it can do it but it with me
 to have its own space for the processing.
 
 Has anyone else played with this function? Perhaps, there is already an app
 to do it? I would be very interested to hear people's comments on this as, I
 think, it may have greater potential, I E, in transcribing radio programs
 for people who  at the   moment can't access them due to hearing loss. Or
 for students, journalists, and who knows what else?
 
 My thanks for any responses,
 Sandy
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: battery drainage

2014-02-09 Thread Bill Gallik
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't SIRI actually send the audio input to 
voice recognition servers?


That being the case; turning off WI-FI will cause any additional SIRI 
commands to be sent over the mobile network and could result in additional 
network access charges.  Point is, if you plan on using SIRI to any extent 
you probably do not want to disable WI-FI.


Holland's Boy, Bill
- Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on 
society.

- US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: battery drainage


The two biggest drains on the iPhone are the Bluetooth radio and WI_FI.. 
It's easy to tell Siri, turn bluetooth off and she'll say I turned Bluetooth 
off.  Do the same with WI_FI.  Those are the two biggest battery drains.  So 
if you have no ear peace connected to Bluetooth and your away from your home 
network, you don't need the WI_FI either.  And, it can quickly be turned 
back on again when need be.


HTH


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On Feb 8, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers 
chalmer...@googlemail.com wrote:


   Hi

Of course it's true that some apps use  more power than others, but if a 
phone is draining, then the most obvious explanation is that one app or 
another is using the power and it's just an easy thing to eliminate.


In Mavericks, the battery menu shows you which apps are using significant 
amounts of power. If there is a similar thing in IOS7, I haven't found it 
yet.


Reducing screen brightness is a really good one too. I always thought it 
counter-intuitive that the screen curtain didn't reduce power use, but 
them's the breaks.


I have absolutely no authority to back this up, but I am convinced I 
noticed a reduction in power usage on my 5s after I locked the screen 
orientation.


Best

Adrienne

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Re: battery drainage

2014-02-09 Thread RobH.
Q: Would a modern iPod Touch or iPad do this?

i ask as most don't have 3g or 4g coms too,  so would then not be able to do 
Siri once networking was off.
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: battery drainage


The two biggest drains on the iPhone are the Bluetooth radio and WI_FI.. 
It's easy to tell Siri, turn bluetooth off and she'll say I turned Bluetooth 
off.  Do the same with WI_FI.  Those are the two biggest battery drains.  So 
if you have no ear peace connected to Bluetooth and your away from your home 
network, you don't need the WI_FI either.  And, it can quickly be turned 
back on again when need be.

HTH


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

 On Feb 8, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers 
 chalmer...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hi

 Of course it's true that some apps use  more power than others, but if a 
 phone is draining, then the most obvious explanation is that one app or 
 another is using the power and it's just an easy thing to eliminate.

 In Mavericks, the battery menu shows you which apps are using significant 
 amounts of power. If there is a similar thing in IOS7, I haven't found it 
 yet.

 Reducing screen brightness is a really good one too. I always thought it 
 counter-intuitive that the screen curtain didn't reduce power use, but 
 them's the breaks.

 I have absolutely no authority to back this up, but I am convinced I 
 noticed a reduction in power usage on my 5s after I locked the screen 
 orientation.

 Best

 Adrienne

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Re: The potential of the dictation function?

2014-02-09 Thread RobH.
Remember, it is all done on remote servers, the device would have to send 
the entire sound file away to get the text back.  I think there is a size 
limit, whihc interprets as a maximum time limit for recordings. Folks using 
dictation have often commented that if they keep bits relatively short, then 
add to an input with further dictations, it works more reliably.

Just a thought.  RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 12:32 PM
Subject: The potential of the dictation function?


Hi there!
I was just playing around with my phone and I opened the notes app. Then, in 
a new note, I started off the dictation function. I then walked into the 
kitchen, where my partner was eating lunch, the radio was playing, and there 
was some ambient noise. I told him I wanted to carry out a small experiment 
with dictation and asked him to talk to me. We then had a short 
conversation. I stopped the dictation function and waited to see how much of 
the conversation my phone had picked up. It actually did very well, 
probably, digitising about 30/40% of our conversation. Something I noticed 
was that when my partner spoke the dictation made a new paragraph For him.

So, what do I conclude? I am thinking that the phone has the potential, 
under the right circumstances, to, say, digitise a whole lecture. I think, 
it would need to actually record the lecture first and then take its time 
over the digitising from spoken to text. But I am sure it could actually do 
it as things stand right now. That is, I think it can do it but it with me 
to have its own space for the processing.

Has anyone else played with this function? Perhaps, there is already an app 
to do it? I would be very interested to hear people's comments on this as, I 
think, it may have greater potential, I E, in transcribing radio programs 
for people who  at the   moment can't access them due to hearing loss. Or 
for students, journalists, and who knows what else?

My thanks for any responses,
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: battery drainage

2014-02-09 Thread David Chittenden
Actually, the sole biggest drain on the battery is the GPS receiver. When the 
GPS receiver is running, one can expect to get two to three hours of battery 
life.

The second biggest drain is the iPhone's phone transceiver.

The third biggest drain on the battery life is most likely the combination of 
the touch-screen and the back-light. Turning the back-light down to its lowest 
setting will significantly help. Of course, locking the screen is the only way 
to deactivate the touch-screen.

Wifi is probably the fourth biggest battery drain, but only when wifi is 
actually carrying an internet signal. I leave wifi on and, unless I have active 
throughput, the battery drain is rather minimal.

After wifi, the fancy graphical parallax features provide a decent battery hit. 
This can be disabled in accessibility.

Though many do not believe it, Bluetooth is actually a quite minimal battery 
drain. If no bluetooth device is connected, the drain to the battery is about 
1% per hour. When a bluetooth device is connected, the drain ranges from 3% to 
7% per hour, depending on how strongly the iPhone needs to push the bluetooth 
signal. For instance, the closer the device is to the iPhone, the less signal 
strength is required. That said, the exception is when using an earpiece, and 
the iPhone is against the body on the other side of the body. The human body is 
made primarily of water, and water absorbs radio signals. Therefore, the iPhone 
is required to bump the bluetooth antenna up to maximum which gives a very 
significant signal drain, and skews battery observation / testing with 
bluetooth devices.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 10 Feb 2014, at 6:29, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 The two biggest drains on the iPhone are the Bluetooth radio and WI_FI..  
 It's easy to tell Siri, turn bluetooth off and she'll say I turned Bluetooth 
 off.  Do the same with WI_FI.  Those are the two biggest battery drains.  So 
 if you have no ear peace connected to Bluetooth and your away from your home 
 network, you don't need the WI_FI either.  And, it can quickly be turned back 
 on again when need be.
 
 HTH
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Feb 8, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers 
 chalmer...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
   Hi
 
 Of course it's true that some apps use  more power than others, but if a 
 phone is draining, then the most obvious explanation is that one app or 
 another is using the power and it's just an easy thing to eliminate.
 
 In Mavericks, the battery menu shows you which apps are using significant 
 amounts of power. If there is a similar thing in IOS7, I haven't found it 
 yet. 
 
 Reducing screen brightness is a really good one too. I always thought it 
 counter-intuitive that the screen curtain didn't reduce power use, but 
 them's the breaks.
 
 I have absolutely no authority to back this up, but I am convinced I noticed 
 a reduction in power usage on my 5s after I locked the screen orientation.
 
 Best
 
 Adrienne 
 
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Re: battery drainage

2014-02-09 Thread David Chittenden
Radio signals are radio signals, no matter the source. That said, wifi and 
bluetooth are minimal drains unless there is actual throughput. And, mobile 
data requires more battery drain than wifi because the signal is weaker so the 
iDevice needs to push the signal with more power.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

 On 10 Feb 2014, at 9:18, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Q: Would a modern iPod Touch or iPad do this?
 
 i ask as most don't have 3g or 4g coms too,  so would then not be able to do 
 Siri once networking was off.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:29 PM
 Subject: Re: battery drainage
 
 
 The two biggest drains on the iPhone are the Bluetooth radio and WI_FI.. 
 It's easy to tell Siri, turn bluetooth off and she'll say I turned Bluetooth 
 off.  Do the same with WI_FI.  Those are the two biggest battery drains.  So 
 if you have no ear peace connected to Bluetooth and your away from your home 
 network, you don't need the WI_FI either.  And, it can quickly be turned 
 back on again when need be.
 
 HTH
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Feb 8, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers 
 chalmer...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
   Hi
 
 Of course it's true that some apps use  more power than others, but if a 
 phone is draining, then the most obvious explanation is that one app or 
 another is using the power and it's just an easy thing to eliminate.
 
 In Mavericks, the battery menu shows you which apps are using significant 
 amounts of power. If there is a similar thing in IOS7, I haven't found it 
 yet.
 
 Reducing screen brightness is a really good one too. I always thought it 
 counter-intuitive that the screen curtain didn't reduce power use, but 
 them's the breaks.
 
 I have absolutely no authority to back this up, but I am convinced I 
 noticed a reduction in power usage on my 5s after I locked the screen 
 orientation.
 
 Best
 
 Adrienne
 
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Be ware of a bogus email wanting you to confirm your Apple ID

2014-02-09 Thread Neal Ewers
Hi all, I just received an email with the following subject.

 

**JUNK** please verify the email address accociated with your Apple ID

 

What they want you to do is to go to a site and confirm your ID which they
say will be taken offline in 24 hours if you don't do this.

 

First of all. I have several email accounts and this is not an address which
apple has, so they would not write me at this address.

 

Second, I doubt this is anything like what Apple would write anyway. 

 

Third. If you check the spelling of the subject line, not to mention the
word junk in the text, you will discover that whomever wrote this does not
know how to spell.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to warn people that they should be very careful of
this kind of hack attempt.

 

Neal

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Re: any google apps for the iPhone that act like ciri

2014-02-09 Thread Arnold Schmidt
I think they are both good in some areas, and disappointing in others.  That 
is why I call google search a complement to searie.When one can't do 
something, maybe the other one can.  For example, I can get google search to 
give me addresses and phone numbers for local businesses, but I have better 
luck getting searie to give me sports scores and schedules.  Also, now that 
I have turned on enough stuff, Searie will tell me, quite accurately, the 
address of where I am, where google search just gives me a map, with I am 
sure, my location plotted,  which doesn't do me much good, being that I 
can't see it.  If I ever were to find myself in a situation where I am 
really, genuinely lost, I know I can rely on searie more so that google 
search to tell me where I am.


Finally, in their own ways, both of them are disappointing to me.It 
doesn't take much background noise at all to confuse them and make them much 
less reliable.  When I got my iPhone 5, I wanted to learn to use it myself, 
rather than relying on searie to do everything for me.  I am glad I did. I 
do believe the future is in the future for both these apps, they will get 
better quickly, with each new update.


Arnold Schmidt
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From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: any google apps for the iPhone that act like ciri



Google now works very similarly to siri, and some think it's better.
On Feb 7, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Casey cwoll...@wi.rr.com wrote:


Hi I would like to know.
If there is any Google apps that you can use on your iPhone that do 
things like ciri does.
But if you would like to search for a Phone number for A business or 
something like you can do on an android.
That would the name of this app be for the iPhone and is it free and is 
there A demo of it somewhere we can go and hear it?
My iPhone isn't jail broken and I really don't want to jail brake it 
encase anyone is wondering.



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Problems with the ap store

2014-02-09 Thread Carol anne et al
When I go to buy an ap, and I enter my password, it says this ap cannot be 
purchased at this time, please try again later. I’ve tried resetting my network 
settings, and I definitely have the right password. The thing is some aps are 
downloading after a while because a few I tried to install are now on my phone. 
But I just went to buy naval combat and ear monster and they wouldnt download. 
any suggestions?

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Re: Apple Maps Question.

2014-02-09 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hello:

I do mean Turn-by-turn directions.

Thanks.


From: Don and Cher Bosch 
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Maps Question.

By voice guidance, do you mean turn by turn directions?

 

I have used Apple Maps quite a bit to read off addresses as I'm walking or 
using public transportation.

 

Cher

 

 

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Jim Noseworthy
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Maps Question.

 

Hi Folks:

 

Has anyone had any luck with voice guidance using Apple maps in walking mode?  
If so, are there specific settings that I need to attend too?  Also, is it true 
that the 5S  will automatically choose the correct mode whether driving or 
walking?

 

Thanks all over the place gang.

 

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Re: battery drainage

2014-02-09 Thread Andy Baracco
Hard to go without wireless, because so many things we do depend on 
connectivity. Hard to go without bluetooth because we use so many wireless 
devices, i. e. headsets, keyboards, Braille displays, speakers, etc.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: RobH.

Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery drainage

Q: Would a modern iPod Touch or iPad do this?

i ask as most don't have 3g or 4g coms too,  so would then not be able to do
Siri once networking was off.
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: battery drainage


The two biggest drains on the iPhone are the Bluetooth radio and WI_FI..
It's easy to tell Siri, turn bluetooth off and she'll say I turned Bluetooth
off.  Do the same with WI_FI.  Those are the two biggest battery drains.  So
if you have no ear peace connected to Bluetooth and your away from your home
network, you don't need the WI_FI either.  And, it can quickly be turned
back on again when need be.

HTH


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On Feb 8, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers
chalmer...@googlemail.com wrote:

   Hi

Of course it's true that some apps use  more power than others, but if a
phone is draining, then the most obvious explanation is that one app or
another is using the power and it's just an easy thing to eliminate.

In Mavericks, the battery menu shows you which apps are using significant
amounts of power. If there is a similar thing in IOS7, I haven't found it
yet.

Reducing screen brightness is a really good one too. I always thought it
counter-intuitive that the screen curtain didn't reduce power use, but
them's the breaks.

I have absolutely no authority to back this up, but I am convinced I
noticed a reduction in power usage on my 5s after I locked the screen
orientation.

Best

Adrienne

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Re: Problems with the ap store

2014-02-09 Thread Jodie Hoger
Hi. I was having similar issues this morning. I ended up taking everything out 
of the app switcher and turning my device off then on again. I went back into 
the app store and everything seemed to work properly again. 
HTH, 
Jo

Sent from my iPhone 

 On 10 Feb 2014, at 8:53 am, Carol anne et al 
 carol.anne.protec...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 When I go to buy an ap, and I enter my password, it says this ap cannot be 
 purchased at this time, please try again later. I’ve tried resetting my 
 network settings, and I definitely have the right password. The thing is some 
 aps are downloading after a while because a few I tried to install are now on 
 my phone. But I just went to buy naval combat and ear monster and they 
 wouldnt download. any suggestions?
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Re: Apple Maps Question.

2014-02-09 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, I use Apple maps regularly for turn by turn directions.

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 On 10 Feb 2014, at 10:55, Jim Noseworthy 
 jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com wrote:
 
 Hello:
  
 I do mean Turn-by-turn directions.
  
 Thanks.
  
  
 From: Don and Cher Bosch
 Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:54 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Apple Maps Question.
  
 By voice guidance, do you mean turn by turn directions?
  
 I have used Apple Maps quite a bit to read off addresses as I'm walking or 
 using public transportation.
  
 Cher
  
  
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 Jim Noseworthy
 Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 8:20 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Apple Maps Question.
  
 Hi Folks:
  
 Has anyone had any luck with voice guidance using Apple maps in walking mode? 
  If so, are there specific settings that I need to attend too?  Also, is it 
 true that the 5S  will automatically choose the correct mode whether driving 
 or walking?
  
 Thanks all over the place gang.
  
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Re: Problems with the ap store

2014-02-09 Thread Carol anne et al
Thanks, I’ll try that.

From: Jodie Hoger 
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Cc: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Problems with the ap store

Hi. I was having similar issues this morning. I ended up taking everything out 
of the app switcher and turning my device off then on again. I went back into 
the app store and everything seemed to work properly again. 
HTH, 
Jo

Sent from my iPhone 

On 10 Feb 2014, at 8:53 am, Carol anne et al carol.anne.protec...@gmail.com 
wrote:


  When I go to buy an ap, and I enter my password, it says this ap cannot be 
purchased at this time, please try again later. I’ve tried resetting my network 
settings, and I definitely have the right password. The thing is some aps are 
downloading after a while because a few I tried to install are now on my phone. 
But I just went to buy naval combat and ear monster and they wouldnt download. 
any suggestions?
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Re: battery drainage

2014-02-09 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
It is still possible that their is a defect in the persons phone. My
wife has a 5 and I have a 5s. She has nothing running where as I have
5 or 6 apps on, and Bluetooth on. My phone will run for a couple of
days without needing a charge while hers will only run for a few
hours. She can't go to work and make it home on a single charge.
Therefore I contend that a defect exists in her phone.

On 2/9/14, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 Hard to go without wireless, because so many things we do depend on
 connectivity. Hard to go without bluetooth because we use so many wireless
 devices, i. e. headsets, keyboards, Braille displays, speakers, etc.

 Andy


 -Original Message-
 From: RobH.
 Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 12:18 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: battery drainage

 Q: Would a modern iPod Touch or iPad do this?

 i ask as most don't have 3g or 4g coms too,  so would then not be able to
 do
 Siri once networking was off.
 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:29 PM
 Subject: Re: battery drainage


 The two biggest drains on the iPhone are the Bluetooth radio and WI_FI..
 It's easy to tell Siri, turn bluetooth off and she'll say I turned
 Bluetooth
 off.  Do the same with WI_FI.  Those are the two biggest battery drains.
 So
 if you have no ear peace connected to Bluetooth and your away from your
 home
 network, you don't need the WI_FI either.  And, it can quickly be turned
 back on again when need be.

 HTH


 Alan

 Sent from my iPad Air

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 chalmer...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hi

 Of course it's true that some apps use  more power than others, but if a
 phone is draining, then the most obvious explanation is that one app or
 another is using the power and it's just an easy thing to eliminate.

 In Mavericks, the battery menu shows you which apps are using significant
 amounts of power. If there is a similar thing in IOS7, I haven't found it
 yet.

 Reducing screen brightness is a really good one too. I always thought it
 counter-intuitive that the screen curtain didn't reduce power use, but
 them's the breaks.

 I have absolutely no authority to back this up, but I am convinced I
 noticed a reduction in power usage on my 5s after I locked the screen
 orientation.

 Best

 Adrienne

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question about braille display and kindle app

2014-02-09 Thread denise colley
Does anyone know how to move from one screen to the next when trying to read
a book using your paired Apex with the kindle app.  I know that space bar
with dots 2, 4, 6 will move the braille display back but space bar with the
letter o just puts me in the options menu.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

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Re: question about braille display and kindle app

2014-02-09 Thread Alex Hall
You need to press enter-4-5-6 on the Apex. This tells Keysoft to ignore the 
next command (space-o in your case) and pass it straight to the iPhone. This 
requires Keysoft 9.2 or later, I believe.

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 Does anyone know how to move from one screen to the next when trying to read 
 a book using your paired Apex with the kindle app.  I know that space bar 
 with dots 2, 4, 6 will move the braille display back but space bar with the 
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Re: question about braille display and kindle app

2014-02-09 Thread David Chittenden
Try dots 3 4 5 6 as this is the command to scroll down one page. I have not 
tried it in Kindle. 

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Sent from my iPhone

 On 10 Feb 2014, at 17:28, denise colley dmc0...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Does anyone know how to move from one screen to the next when trying to read 
 a book using your paired Apex with the kindle app.  I know that space bar 
 with dots 2, 4, 6 will move the braille display back but space bar with the 
 letter o just puts me in the options menu.
  
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
  
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Alarm Clock setting when you don't have Siri

2014-02-09 Thread Van Lant Family
I'm on an Iphone 4 with no Siri.  Is it pretty easy to set an alarm clock 
(for  waking up) or do you recommend a particular app?  Staying at a hotel 
this week and I've never set an alarm on my phone.


Robin 


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Re: Justin who did a podcast on the Logitech k760 keyboard

2014-02-09 Thread Fanus
Hello Craig
Thanks much. I listened to the podcast and most of my 
questions were answered.
Regards
Fanus

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Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: Justin who did a podcast on the Logitech k760 
keyboard


Hello, Fanus.

I'm not familiar with the podcast you mentioned, but David 
Woodbridge,
who works for Vision Australia, has a podcast on the 
Logitech K760
posted to the AppleVis website.  David does fine work.  He 
can be
contacted through writing to the Contact mailbox of Vision
Australia.  Messages will be forwarded to him from that 
mailbox.

Craig

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 Hello list
 Does anyone know how I can get in touch with Justion about
 this BT keyboard?
 Regards
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How to update IOS on original iPod touch

2014-02-09 Thread Kevin Gibbs
guys,

Apologies if I've posted this twice.  I just inherited my wife's iPod Touch 
which she bought in 2009.  It is running IOS 4.  I want to connect it to my 
iTunes account.  I realize this will wipe out everything of hers that's on 
the device.  that's fine.  I just don't know how to update the IOS.  I 
guess I'll have to connect it with a cable and look under Devices in 
iTunes.  Is that right?

Also, is there any danger of wiping out my wife's e-mail when I do this? 
 she has a bunch of e-mail accounts which are iMAP on her current iPhone 4 
and iPad 2, but which were POP3 on her iPod Touch.  Again, any issues here?

Thanks,
Kevin

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Re: Alarm Clock setting when you don't have Siri

2014-02-09 Thread Chris H
Try Alarmed which is free with extras as an in-app purchase and is very 
accessible.


Regards Chris

On 10/02/2014 06:36, Van Lant Family wrote:

I'm on an Iphone 4 with no Siri.  Is it pretty easy to set an alarm
clock (for  waking up) or do you recommend a particular app?  Staying at
a hotel this week and I've never set an alarm on my phone.

Robin


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