RE: Calculator App for iPad

[Esther]

Hello Alan,

To add to Jenn's reply recommending Big Calc Free, here's the URL:
• Big Calculator Free by Tioga Designs LLC
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/big-calculator-free/id374174252?mt=8

It's easiest to use this app in portrait mode.  For more details on the neat 
features in this app, check my archived list post:
• Re: Calculator for iPad
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone%40googlegroups.com/msg59283.html

The link gives a very detailed description of the layout and usage of this app.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

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TextDetective iPhone app for OCR is free today (March 13, 2014)

[Esther]

Hello All,

TextDetective, the iPhone OCR app, is currently free.  It usually lists for 
$8.99.  A quick description of how this differs from apps like TextGrabber and 
Prizmo is that it works for English only, and you have to hold the iPhone in 
landscape mode, so you don't usually get an entire letter- or A4-sized page 
OCRed in one shot.  However, it works in video mode (like Talking Goggles), so 
it's relatively fast. Before the VoiceOver specific improvements to TextGrabber 
and Prizmo made in Spring of last year, many blind users found it easier to use 
TextDetective to get results in freehand use (without a supporting stand) than 
to train themselves to use TextGrabber or Prizmo.  And you can use TextGrabber 
to read some text off your computer monitor in a pinch.
• TextDetective by Blindsight (currently free for limited time, usually $8.99) 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/textdetective/id541494875?mt=8

Note that this version runs under iOS 7.  If your iPhone is running an older 
version of iOS, you can purchase the app under iTunes on your computer, and 
then download the latest version of TextDetective that is compatible with the 
version of iOS on your iPhone.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

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Re: having trouble with bluetooth keyboard since updating

[Ioana Gandrabur]

I also have a keyboard that can connect to multiple devices. Try switching to 
an other one and then going back. Fixes it every time for me.
In my case I have noticed that the bug gets activated with vo commands and some 
other combinations using modifiers so if I stay away from them and use the 
jestures it is a bit less frequent.
Hth,

Ioana



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> On Mar 12, 2014, at 6:27 PM, denise avant  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> I have a logic tech bluetooth keyboard, the one that can connect up to three 
> devices at once. I tried entering text today in an edit filed, and nothing 
> happened. I just updated to 7.1. has anyone had this problem?
> Thanks.
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an otter box case question for you all

[Casey]

Hi I have the iPhone 5 and the otter box defender case for it.
But I was thinking about getting another otter box case for my phone 
just not the defender.

So do any of you have an otter box case that isn't the defender one?
If so how do you like it and do you think that is gives the same 
protection as the defender or doesn't it really matter?
I would like to get A otter box case that makes the iPhone A bit less 
bulky to carry around but gives it good protection as well.

So thank you all and I will watch for the responses on the list.


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Re: Papa sangre II level 19

[Ioana Gandrabur]

My experience is different. 
As long as you don't run but walk not too fast while the rumble of thunder 
lasts you can take quite a few steps withou being spotted. Up to 8 or more at 
times.
I got the bonus for this level of taking all steps under cover of thunder so it 
realy works. 
Good luck,


Ioana




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> On Mar 13, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I think so. Once you start getting into noisy crunchy situations 
> everywhere, you just have to run for it; no fancy stuff required. :)
> 
> Teresa
>
> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:40 AM, peter  wrote:
>> 
>> is it the same as in Papa Sangre 1 on level 14 and the chess board? :)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 03:07:15AM -0700, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> I'm afraid the trick is to be very fast. Toward the end, you can't afford 
>>> to wait and you must just make a run for it. Knowing where the exit is 
>>> helps, so memorize your way to the exit and run for your life.
>>> 
>>> HtH,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:44 AM, Peter Durieux  
 wrote:
 
 Hi listers,
 Can someone tell me the secret to misslead those lovely husks  after 
 releasing the music. I wait till the sound of thunder, smash the box and 
 become food. Tips are welcome  :)
 
 With kind regards,
 
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Re: I regret updating to 7.1

[David Chittenden]

Did you upgrade over the air, or did you upgrade through iTunes?

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> On 14 Mar 2014, at 12:16, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
> 
> No, do not have this problem with reply, but I have noticed that twice now I 
> will suddenly call someone and I will hear them but they will not hear me. 
> Only thing to do then is to reboot the phone. Also, when I tried to call 
> Sprint about this, going to speaker phone to regular phone and back was very 
> choppy. Sometimes it would go to speaker phone and sometimes not. I have not 
> tried this too many times to know if it is a fluke or for real, but _have
> had no problems with prior upgrades. 
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
> 
> On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:02 PM, James Lockwood  wrote:
> 
> I noticed some differences at least on my phone when it comes to the latest 
> and one would assume greatest IOS. I updated today and voice over functions 
> slightly differently. for example, if you wish to reply to an email, 
> previously tapping on reply would bring up the usual message asking if you 
> wish to reply or forward. before updating vioce over would have the focus on 
> the window that popped up. now? no. the focus remains on the original reply 
> button at the bottom. it also allows you to hit it again and again and again 
> which brings up window after window after window asking if you wish to reply 
> or forward. now you have to move your finger to focus voice over onto the 
> popped up window after hitting that lower reply button. anyone else having 
> this problem? hope you can understand and or produce this on your phone for 
> those who have updated 
> 
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Re: Using iTunes to Upgrade a Phone in Recovery Mode

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Alan, occasionally, these upgrades will fail. It's hard to know specifically 
why it did in this case.
But if you restore when in recovery mode, you'll have a clean iPHone, and you 
can then restore from the iTunes backup. You could also do triple click home on 
the start screen of the iPhone to get VoiceOver going in the event that you 
needed to restore from iCloud. But since you did the iTunes backup, there's no 
need to enable VoiceOver at the beginning. Doing the restore puts the phone 
into the exact state it was when the backup was taken, and that includes 
turning VoiceOver on. So yes, it's a totally accessible process.

Jonathan.
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> On 14/03/2014, at 5:52 pm, "Alan Lemly"  wrote:
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> I was trying to help a friend upgrade her phone using iTunes. We first made 
> sure she was on the latest version of iTunes (11.1.5) and then made an 
> encrypted backup to her computer. Finally, we chose to download the iOS 7.1 
> to her computer so it would be available in case the Apple servers were busy 
> when we got to the upgrade the next day.
>  
> Tonight, we started the upgrade process from within iTunes but at some point 
> the phone was no longer seen by iTunes which presented a message that the 
> phone was in recovery mode and would have to be restored before anything else 
> could be done. The phone was absolutely silent and she was unable to 
> determine if it was even powered on. Disconnecting it from the USB cable and 
> reconnecting it did cause the computer to chirp so it was seeing the iPhone. 
> But when iTunes was restarted, she got the message again about the phone 
> being in recovery mode requiring a restore in order to proceed. None of the 
> usual restore from backup options were available under the iTunes Summary tab 
> and the only option was to select the Restore button. When this was selected, 
> the next thing spoken by JAWS was that restoring would erase all of the 
> phone's content and reset it to factory defaults. This caused us great 
> concern and she decided to take her phone and laptop to the Apple Store to 
> get their help restoring her phone.
>  
> I suspect that once the phone is restored, the option will become available 
> in iTunes to restore from the computer backup we made yesterday. However, the 
> reason we didn't proceed was we weren't sure how she would be able to respond 
> with the phone when the upgrade shifted to it as it always does if she didn't 
> have VoiceOver on. I'm trying to learn from this experience from anyone who 
> might have gone this route before so I'll know if the process can be 
> completed by someone without sighted assistance in this circumstance. Does it 
> give you an option to start VoiceOver when a restore to factory defaults is 
> done? Can VoiceOver be turned on using iTunes as part of the restore process? 
> Finally, does anyone have any ideas why the phone went into recovery mode?
>  
> I'm confident that she'll get her phone upgraded and restored from the manual 
> encrypted backup made to her cmputer but I'm really confused as to why her 
> phone was put into recovery mode as part of our upgrade experience since I 
> believe we did everything exactly as I did on my phone a few days ago.
>  
> Thanks for any comments I can learn from and use if I ever encounter this 
> again.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Using iTunes to Upgrade a Phone in Recovery Mode

[Alan Lemly]

I was trying to help a friend upgrade her phone using iTunes. We first made
sure she was on the latest version of iTunes (11.1.5) and then made an
encrypted backup to her computer. Finally, we chose to download the iOS 7.1
to her computer so it would be available in case the Apple servers were busy
when we got to the upgrade the next day.

 

Tonight, we started the upgrade process from within iTunes but at some point
the phone was no longer seen by iTunes which presented a message that the
phone was in recovery mode and would have to be restored before anything
else could be done. The phone was absolutely silent and she was unable to
determine if it was even powered on. Disconnecting it from the USB cable and
reconnecting it did cause the computer to chirp so it was seeing the iPhone.
But when iTunes was restarted, she got the message again about the phone
being in recovery mode requiring a restore in order to proceed. None of the
usual restore from backup options were available under the iTunes Summary
tab and the only option was to select the Restore button. When this was
selected, the next thing spoken by JAWS was that restoring would erase all
of the phone's content and reset it to factory defaults. This caused us
great concern and she decided to take her phone and laptop to the Apple
Store to get their help restoring her phone.

 

I suspect that once the phone is restored, the option will become available
in iTunes to restore from the computer backup we made yesterday. However,
the reason we didn't proceed was we weren't sure how she would be able to
respond with the phone when the upgrade shifted to it as it always does if
she didn't have VoiceOver on. I'm trying to learn from this experience from
anyone who might have gone this route before so I'll know if the process can
be completed by someone without sighted assistance in this circumstance.
Does it give you an option to start VoiceOver when a restore to factory
defaults is done? Can VoiceOver be turned on using iTunes as part of the
restore process? Finally, does anyone have any ideas why the phone went into
recovery mode?

 

I'm confident that she'll get her phone upgraded and restored from the
manual encrypted backup made to her cmputer but I'm really confused as to
why her phone was put into recovery mode as part of our upgrade experience
since I believe we did everything exactly as I did on my phone a few days
ago.

 

Thanks for any comments I can learn from and use if I ever encounter this
again.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Bard app and importing one's own generated Daisy books.

[Alex Hall]

I doubt this is possible. I'm only guessing, but I imagine the app 
authenticates every book. If authentication fails, even if a title has no 
encryption at all, that book is not shown. Again, only a guess.

That said, you should look at Voice Dream Reader. That can go as fast as you 
want, and plays tons of formats, audio daisy included. There is a free version 
that stops playback after a few seconds but is otherwise fully functional, so 
you can try it out and see if it is worth getting.
On Mar 13, 2014, at 11:46 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:

> Hello list,
>  
> So I was wondering if anyone's tried this and been successful or if it's even 
> possible?
>  
> Like many on here, I enjoy the Bard app and use it quite nearly for all my 
> audiobook listening at this point. There are however books that aren't 
> offered through bard and that I would also like to listen to. The advantage 
> to Bard in addition to its great useability is that it's got a very fast or 
> at least faster then other audio playback setting offered by other apps.
>  
> Can Bard only exclusively play NLS titles with its Daisy format or is there a 
> way to import non NLS titles into the app? I tried once generating my own 
> daisy audiobook and importing it through iTunes, but the book never showed up 
> even though the size of the Bard app indicated that the file that I did 
> import was somehow in the app.
>  
> I'm guessing that it can only play the Daisy NLS format, but thought I'd ask 
> anyway if anyone's in fact been able to import one's own Daisy generated 
> audiobook.
>  
> I know I can use the Voicedream app to listen to audiobooks now, but it 
> doesn't allow for as fast as a playback speed as Bard. Nor does Downcast 
> which I also use sometimes for audiobooks or audio clips in general.
>  
> Thanks,
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Re: Charter App

[Bill Gallik]

I have the Charter app on my iPhone 5, but haven't really done much with it 
yet.  I'll take a look to see what I encounter.


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To: 
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Subject: Charter App



Is anyone using the Charter Communications app? It is giving me a fit.

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Charter App

[Beverly]

Is anyone using the Charter Communications app? It is giving me a fit.  



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Bard app and importing one's own generated Daisy books.

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

 

So I was wondering if anyone's tried this and been successful or if it's
even possible?

 

Like many on here, I enjoy the Bard app and use it quite nearly for all my
audiobook listening at this point. There are however books that aren't
offered through bard and that I would also like to listen to. The advantage
to Bard in addition to its great useability is that it's got a very fast or
at least faster then other audio playback setting offered by other apps.

 

Can Bard only exclusively play NLS titles with its Daisy format or is there
a way to import non NLS titles into the app? I tried once generating my own
daisy audiobook and importing it through iTunes, but the book never showed
up even though the size of the Bard app indicated that the file that I did
import was somehow in the app. 

 

I'm guessing that it can only play the Daisy NLS format, but thought I'd ask
anyway if anyone's in fact been able to import one's own Daisy generated
audiobook.

 

I know I can use the Voicedream app to listen to audiobooks now, but it
doesn't allow for as fast as a playback speed as Bard. Nor does Downcast
which I also use sometimes for audiobooks or audio clips in general.

 

Thanks,

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Re: is there a way to downgrade?

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi there. The only thing the encrypted backup does is save your email and Wi-Fi 
passwords. If you restore from the backup regardless of whether it is encrypted 
or not, it will restore to the current iOS. No way to rollback.

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> On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:19 PM, "Arnold Schmidt"  wrote:
> 
> If you did an encrypted backup to your computer before upgrading, I would 
> think you could restore your phone, using this backup, and it would be 
> restored to the previous IOS.  Or, I guess you could use your ICloud backup, 
> but it wouldn't restore as much as the encrypted backup.  Other than these, I 
> don't think there is a way to go back.
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
> - Original Message - From: "Rebecca Ilniski" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:22 PM
> Subject: is there a way to downgrade?
> 
> 
>> Sub says it all.  I'm not happy with 7.1 especially because it's impossible 
>> to use my amazon basics bluetooth keyboard.  I don't mind using mbraille but 
>> that's hard to do if the phone is charging and I'm lying in my bed with the 
>> keyboard.  Is there a way to downgrade?  I can't believe Apple let this 
>> release go as far as the bluetooth keyboards.  I'd like to downgrade and 
>> won't plan upgrading until this bug gets fixed.  It's ridiculous.
>> 
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RE: GV Connect, Groundwire and SIP Clients

[Joe]

Hi, yeah, Groundwire is great except for the annoying problem I mentioned in
the other thread. Groundwire is an excellent app, and I've paired it with
CallCentric for the moment. I've set the CallCentric number as the number to
initiate calls from GV Connect. We'll see how well this works.

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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GV Connect, Groundwire and SIP Clients

Joe,

Check out my article on AppleVis on the iPhone on the Cheap.  It describes
options for calling using your data plan or WIFI.  In doing research for the
article and speaking with highly experienced end users, Groundwire was the
most accessible app.  It was the app recommended in the article.  the other
apps you mentioned either don't have the same level of access as Groundwire
or the features that Groundwire has.  At $10, Groundwire's price tag isn't
likely going to break someone's bank.

Kelly



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> Hi, I purchased GV Connect. So far so good, but I'm wondering if 
> there's a way to place calls using Groundwire? I'm trying to find an 
> alternative to Talkatone since that service may not be operable after 
> May 15. Yes, I know Raul would point out that there is a lot more to 
> Google Voice than the capacity to make calls, but to me, that's bogus. 
> I'd like the ability to make calls over my wi-fi network if that's 
> doable. I see GV Connect works with Fring and Truphone. Are either of 
> these accessible? I wouldn't mind finding a free means of placing 
> calls other than eating minutes, but if any of you can recommend an 
> affordable VOIP service to use with my SIP client, I'd be much
appreciative. Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
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Groundwire

[Joe]

Hi, on another Groundwire-related question, has anyone figured out how to
dial within the app? I don't mean the initial number. I mean for automated
menus. I can't seem to get the dialer to process the button pushes in a way
to let the service on the other end register the tones. Thanks for any
tips.--Joe

 

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RE: Giraffe Reader for iPhone

[Richard Turner]

I have not seen the Giraffe Reader yet, but in my correspondence with Sam,
it sounds like it is designed to be used with the iPhone not in a case.
I have the Otterbox Defender case and don't want to have to take it out of
the case just to do a scan, so he is looking into making one that will fit
an iphone using the Otterbox case.
The price here in the United States is going to be $45.00, which is a bit
more than the StandScan.  But, I am willing to at least try one out if he
can make that adjustment.
He has a generous 60-day return policy.

Richard


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Giraffe Reader for iPhone

Hello David,

The Giraffe reader folds away to a much smaller package than the StandScan
Pro and is much quicker to assemble. It takes up very little space when
erected and would be practical to use in a restaurant to read the menu. It
is not as good a solution as the StandScan Pro, but it has its place.

I suspect I'm going to get much more use out of the Giraffe Reader than the
StandScan Pro because I can carry it in my handbag rather than in a
backpack. It's maybe a female thing, or justmy age, but I don't like
carrying a backpack everywhere.

Cheers,

Anne



On 13 Mar 2014, at 21:32, David Chittenden  wrote:

> Wow, so for a price that is a few dollars more than the StandScan power
bundle, I can get something similar to the StandScan pro, only without the
lights. What a bargain. 
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

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RE: Gold awards in Dice world.

[DJ]

A search for rau47 yields no username found.

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Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Gold awards in Dice world.

Hi, it is not a guarantee that it will happen for every level. I'm rau47 
on there by the way if you want to try out your luck against me.

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Sheldon Cooper
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On 3/11/2014 9:04 AM, Bluesman02 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> A couple of days ago I noticed that I was not awarded 50 Gold after
> completing the level i was on.  Has this been stopped or is it just my
> bad luck, LOL.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Del
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My iPhone 4 still says IOS6 downloaded Apple Inc

[Kevin Gibbs]

guys,

I had no idea IOS7.1 had arrived.  Every time I look at my iPhone 4 under 
Software update, it says IOS7.06 downloaded.   that suggests that I have to 
install that and therefore upgrade from 6.x to 7.06 before I can upgrade to 
7.1.  Is that the case?  is there any real point for an iPhone 4 VoiceOver 
user to upgrade through 7.06 to 7.1?

My wife, who is sighted, wants to know this as well.

Best,
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Re: GV Connect, Groundwire and SIP Clients

[Kelly Pierce]

Joe,

Check out my article on AppleVis on the iPhone on the Cheap.  It
describes options for calling using your data plan or WIFI.  In doing
research for the article and speaking with highly experienced end
users, Groundwire was the most accessible app.  It was the app
recommended in the article.  the other apps you mentioned either don't
have the same level of access as Groundwire or the features that
Groundwire has.  At $10, Groundwire's price tag isn't likely going to
break someone's bank.

Kelly



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> Hi, I purchased GV Connect. So far so good, but I'm wondering if there's a
> way to place calls using Groundwire? I'm trying to find an alternative to
> Talkatone since that service may not be operable after May 15. Yes, I know
> Raul would point out that there is a lot more to Google Voice than the
> capacity to make calls, but to me, that's bogus. I'd like the ability to
> make calls over my wi-fi network if that's doable. I see GV Connect works
> with Fring and Truphone. Are either of these accessible? I wouldn't mind
> finding a free means of placing calls other than eating minutes, but if any
> of you can recommend an affordable VOIP service to use with my SIP client,
> I'd be much appreciative. Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: external keyboard with ios7.1.

[Kyle]

It turns out that things are not okay with my Apple keyboard. I retract my 
previous statement. Problems here as well.

Kyle

> On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:40 PM, Kyle  wrote:
> 
> Interestingly enough, my problem with my keyboard seems to be worse with my 
> Amazon Basics keyboard. My Apple keyboard seems to be ok so far. I like the 
> Amazon keyboard, but mine has started missing keystrokes over the last month 
> or so. Very interesting.
> 
> Kyle
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:26 PM, brian albriton  wrote:
>> 
>> Do you open and close the application where you're writing, or turn the 
>> keyboard on and off?
>> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2014, at 10:49 AM, ramy moustafa  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> don't know if some people hhere see that after updating to ios7.1, we have 
>>> a major big issue in using the external keyboard with iphone, we must close 
>>> it and open again each time that i need to write somethhing. don't know how 
>>> apple can not take care of something big like this. but anyway i hope that 
>>> we all must contact them to fix this immediately specially for blinds as we 
>>> r using these keyboards in our  day and night.
>>> 
>>> Ramy moustafa saber
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: external keyboard with ios7.1.

[Kyle]

Interestingly enough, my problem with my keyboard seems to be worse with my 
Amazon Basics keyboard. My Apple keyboard seems to be ok so far. I like the 
Amazon keyboard, but mine has started missing keystrokes over the last month or 
so. Very interesting.

Kyle

> On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:26 PM, brian albriton  wrote:
> 
> Do you open and close the application where you're writing, or turn the 
> keyboard on and off?
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2014, at 10:49 AM, ramy moustafa  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> don't know if some people hhere see that after updating to ios7.1, we have a 
>> major big issue in using the external keyboard with iphone, we must close it 
>> and open again each time that i need to write somethhing. don't know how 
>> apple can not take care of something big like this. but anyway i hope that 
>> we all must contact them to fix this immediately specially for blinds as we 
>> r using these keyboards in our  day and night.
>> 
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Re: Keyboard and iOS 7.1

[brian albriton]

I've had no trouble with my Braille Penn. I have had a lot of trouble with my 
Amazon basics Bluetooth keyboard.

> On Mar 11, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Anyone know if Braille displays are affected by this bug? I have done
> more writing on my Focus 14 display keyboard in iOS and if it will not
> work in iOS 7.1, then I hesitate to update right away.
> 
> Regards,
> Wayne
> 
>> On 3/11/14, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> There's a bug with Bluetooth keyboards in iOS 7 .1. Explain it to excess
>> ability and Apple.com. The more people that do it, the faster the bug will
>> get fixed. Right now, it's a bug that basically hinders the operating system
>> unusable with keyboards.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 9:02 AM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am writing this on the AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard.  However, a few
>>> minutes ago I tried to reply to an Email and the keys did not work.
>>> Hitting a, said top of document. Hitting f acted like a right arrow.
>>> I then when to PlainText 2 and was able to write a document.  Then, I
>>> erased it with the backspace key and suddenly the  keyboard stopped
>>> working again.  I double-tapped a few times and deleted a few spaces and
>>> was able to type again.
>>> So, something is very odd.
>>> I wrote apple accessibility before finding that it does work some of the
>>> time.
>>> I suggest others with keyboards try a variety of situations and write them
>>> with your results.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: external keyboard with ios7.1.

[brian albriton]

Do you open and close the application where you're writing, or turn the 
keyboard on and off?

> On Mar 13, 2014, at 10:49 AM, ramy moustafa  
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> 
> Hi all:
> don't know if some people hhere see that after updating to ios7.1, we have a 
> major big issue in using the external keyboard with iphone, we must close it 
> and open again each time that i need to write somethhing. don't know how 
> apple can not take care of something big like this. but anyway i hope that we 
> all must contact them to fix this immediately specially for blinds as we r 
> using these keyboards in our  day and night.
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> Musicc instructor at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: is there a way to downgrade?

[Christopher Chaltain]

Backups don't include the operating system. It isn't a system image 
backup. Apple is no longer signing the 7.0.6 images, so there is no way 
to downgrade now. Here's an article talking about it 
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/03/11/can-you-downgrade-from-ios-7-1-to-ios-7-0-6/


On 03/13/2014 06:19 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

If you did an encrypted backup to your computer before upgrading, I
would think you could restore your phone, using this backup, and it
would be restored to the previous IOS.  Or, I guess you could use your
ICloud backup, but it wouldn't restore as much as the encrypted backup.
Other than these, I don't think there is a way to go back.

Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - From: "Rebecca Ilniski" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:22 PM
Subject: is there a way to downgrade?



Sub says it all.  I'm not happy with 7.1 especially because it's
impossible to use my amazon basics bluetooth keyboard.  I don't mind
using mbraille but that's hard to do if the phone is charging and I'm
lying in my bed with the keyboard.  Is there a way to downgrade?  I
can't believe Apple let this release go as far as the bluetooth
keyboards.  I'd like to downgrade and won't plan upgrading until this
bug gets fixed.  It's ridiculous.

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GV Connect, Groundwire and SIP Clients

[Joe]

Hi, I purchased GV Connect. So far so good, but I'm wondering if there's a
way to place calls using Groundwire? I'm trying to find an alternative to
Talkatone since that service may not be operable after May 15. Yes, I know
Raul would point out that there is a lot more to Google Voice than the
capacity to make calls, but to me, that's bogus. I'd like the ability to
make calls over my wi-fi network if that's doable. I see GV Connect works
with Fring and Truphone. Are either of these accessible? I wouldn't mind
finding a free means of placing calls other than eating minutes, but if any
of you can recommend an affordable VOIP service to use with my SIP client,
I'd be much appreciative. Thanks in advance.

 

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Re: is there a way to downgrade?

[Arnold Schmidt]

If you did an encrypted backup to your computer before upgrading, I would 
think you could restore your phone, using this backup, and it would be 
restored to the previous IOS.  Or, I guess you could use your ICloud backup, 
but it wouldn't restore as much as the encrypted backup.  Other than these, 
I don't think there is a way to go back.


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: "Rebecca Ilniski" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:22 PM
Subject: is there a way to downgrade?


Sub says it all.  I'm not happy with 7.1 especially because it's 
impossible to use my amazon basics bluetooth keyboard.  I don't mind using 
mbraille but that's hard to do if the phone is charging and I'm lying in 
my bed with the keyboard.  Is there a way to downgrade?  I can't believe 
Apple let this release go as far as the bluetooth keyboards.  I'd like to 
downgrade and won't plan upgrading until this bug gets fixed.  It's 
ridiculous.


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Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1

[Regina Alvarado]

Thank you David for pointing this home click speed out.I had been ignoring the 
difficulties I was having accomplishing double click and triple click home 
button. Now much, much easier for me. Think I saw it there, but I didn't think 
to see what it would do. Again, thanks for the tip, though I was not the one 
who asked originally.


reggie and Allegra

On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:56 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:

Yes, go to settings, general, accessibility, home click speed, and adjust the 
speed of the home button between normal, slow, and slowest. Apple added this 
back in the initial 7.0 release. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 13 Mar 2014, at 1:44, "RobH!"  wrote:
> 
> This is interesting!
> Now it is meant to be quick clicks,  but isn't there something under 
> accessibility for motor skills if you can't click that fast?
> 
> If reliability can be demonstrated at speed,  we could request them slow it 
> down a bit.  There was another issue of this sort which either got fixed or 
> given an adjuster to moderate it at least.  I think mBraille was involved at 
> the time.
> 
> Rh.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Debbie Downey" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:30 AM
> Subject: RE: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) 
> Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1
> 
> 
> HI Kimber,
> 
> I noticed the same thing last night; it is hit and miss as to whether you
> can turn speech on or off with the tripple click home and the same did
> happen with double click home to open the app switcher. I did find that if I
> tap the home key 3 times very quickly to turn voiceover on or off or twice
> very quickly to open the app switcher that it works more reliably.
> 
> Debbie
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) Trouble
> opening the app switcher under 7.1
> 
> Yesterday I posted about my issues opening the app switcher after upgrading
> to 7.1. What I now realize is if I turn off the tripple click for
> accessibility (to turn VO on or off), the home button works as it should
> with a double click bringing up the app switcher.
> 
> However, if I turn on tripple click for accessibility the home button
> doesn't work reliabily. Double click does not open the app switcher and
> tripple click does nothing at all. Occasionally a tripple click will cause
> the app switcher to open, but this behavior seems to be hit or miss.
> 
> I am running 7.1 on a 4s.
> 
> Thanks
> 
>> On 3/11/14, Tom Frank  wrote:
>> I have a 4S, just finished updating, and the app switcher works
> flawlessly.
>> No problems detected, at least not yet.
>> Tom Frank
>> vermont...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Kimber Gardner
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Since upgrading to 7.1, a double click of the home button no longer
>>> opens the app switcher on my 4s. Can others confirm this behavior?
>>> 
>>> Kimber
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Re: I regret updating to 7.1

[Regina Alvarado]

No, do not have this problem with reply, but I have noticed that twice now I 
will suddenly call someone and I will hear them but they will not hear me. Only 
thing to do then is to reboot the phone. Also, when I tried to call Sprint 
about this, going to speaker phone to regular phone and back was very choppy. 
Sometimes it would go to speaker phone and sometimes not. I have not tried this 
too many times to know if it is a fluke or for real, but _have
had no problems with prior upgrades. 


reggie and Allegra

On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:02 PM, James Lockwood  wrote:

I noticed some differences at least on my phone when it comes to the latest and 
one would assume greatest IOS. I updated today and voice over functions 
slightly differently. for example, if you wish to reply to an email, previously 
tapping on reply would bring up the usual message asking if you wish to reply 
or forward. before updating vioce over would have the focus on the window that 
popped up. now? no. the focus remains on the original reply button at the 
bottom. it also allows you to hit it again and again and again which brings up 
window after window after window asking if you wish to reply or forward. now 
you have to move your finger to focus voice over onto the popped up window 
after hitting that lower reply button. anyone else having this problem? hope 
you can understand and or produce this on your phone for those who have updated 


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RE: Direct TV app

[Jim Portillo]

I loved the DirecTV app when I had that service.  It worked pretty well,
once the bugs got fixed.


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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:49 PM
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Subject: Re: Direct TV app

Hope,

I really like the Direct TV app for iPhone.  When you first install it, the
screen will appear inaccessible.  Just tap the unlabeled button at the top
left of the screen, and that will fix it.

I use the app for accessing program listings, setting the recorder, watching
programs on my phone, and even for watching programs on the TV.

I'm not really happy with the iPad app because it uses a split screen which
I find really confusing for accessing the information.

Karen P
- Original Message -
From: "Hope Paulos" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:56 AM
Subject: Direct TV app


> Hello all. I am considering switching to direct TV. Can someone who uses 
> this satellite provider tell me if the application is accessible on the 
> iPhone?
> Thanks!
>
> Hope Paulos
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Re: Direct TV app

[Karen Poulakos]

Hope,

I really like the Direct TV app for iPhone.  When you first install it, the 
screen will appear inaccessible.  Just tap the unlabeled button at the top 
left of the screen, and that will fix it.


I use the app for accessing program listings, setting the recorder, watching 
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I'm not really happy with the iPad app because it uses a split screen which 
I find really confusing for accessing the information.


Karen P
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:56 AM
Subject: Direct TV app


Hello all. I am considering switching to direct TV. Can someone who uses 
this satellite provider tell me if the application is accessible on the 
iPhone?

Thanks!

Hope Paulos

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Re: VoiceOver extremely loud after using dictation since iOS 7.1

[Anthony Vece]

You know what, nothing's perfect!


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!

> On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:27 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> There are always bugs with something as complex as iOS. I used to study 
> programming, and there are always bugs even in the simplest programs. The 
> real, and only, question we should ever ask is, do the current features 
> outweigh the current bugs. If so, upgrade. If not, stick with the older 
> features and older bugs.
> 
> Also, bugs are almost never as easy to fix as non-programmers like to 
> believe. Most of the time, bugs are caused by completely unrelated features. 
> When bugs remain across generations of the software, it usually means the 
> programmers have not yet been able to track down the cause or causes of the 
> bug.
> 
> Finally, bugs that only occasionally occur are not reliably reproduced. This 
> means, the cause is almost impossible to determine. 
> 
> For these reasons, I have absolutely no patience for anyone who says any 
> problem / bug would be easy to fix. It is often difficult for me not to start 
> ridiculing any person who starts making such ridiculous assertions.
> 
> Anyone who actually wants to see bugs / problems get fixed must clearly, 
> concisely, and unemotionally, write down the specific steps that cause the 
> bug / problem to occur, preferably every time. The more emotional the letter, 
> the less helpful it is for tracking down the problem / bug.
> 
> In this particular case, somebody else suggested turning down the volume of 
> Siri for the person who was experiencing VO going loud. As my Siri volume is 
> lower than my VO volume, this most likely means the Siri volume is grabbing / 
> superseding the VO volume whilst Siri is active. Therefore, in my case, 
> increasing Siri volume corrected the issue for me. My bug report on this 
> matter merely states, The Siri volume on my iPhone 5 appears to take priority 
> over my VoiceOver volume for a short time after I use Siri.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14 Mar 2014, at 9:40, "Crystal French"  wrote:
>> 
>> David,
>> I have had the same issue as you.
>>  
>> Voice Over goes softer in volume after using dictation.
>>  
>> I couldn’t find the setting for VO volume, so put it on the roter.
>>  
>> This IOS version seems to be a very mixed bag of bugs.
>>  
>> Crystal
>>  
>> From: David Chittenden
>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: VoiceOver extremely loud after using dictation since iOS 7.1
>>  
>> I occasionally have the opposite issue. Sometimes, VO becomes quieter after 
>> dictation. I have not yet been able to reproduce it with any consistency. 
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On 14 Mar 2014, at 0:09, "Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan" 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hello,
>> > 
>> > I really like the iOS 7.1 update so far. Apple has done an amazing job, as 
>> > many bugs and annoyances have been fixed. However, there's something that 
>> > makes using dictation less fun than before. When you dictate a text (no 
>> > matter which app you are using) and double tap to stop dictation, 
>> > VoiceOver 
>> > is very loud, I guess as loud as Siri. It's still very loud when you close 
>> > the app. So I start Siri, end it quickly, and VoiceOver is finally 
>> > speaking 
>> > with standard loudness again. Is anyone facing the same issue? I 
>> > re-started 
>> > the phone, but this didn't work. This loudness issue is something I only 
>> > recognized after the update to 7.1. Before, only the beep tones that ended 
>> > dictation and the repeated text were spoken loudly. Any idea how to fix 
>> > this?
>> > 
>> > Best,
>> > 
>> > Alexandra
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Re: Weather Apt Question

[Traci Duncan]

Are you using the iPhone default weather app?

If so, open the app
Either do a 4-finger tap at the bottom, or there is the edit cities button on 
the lower right corner of the screen
  Double tap this button.
Then if you have your finger in the lower right corner of the screen, begin 
moving it up, you should come across an add city button.  Double tap this and 
begin your search.

Good luck,
Traci

On Mar 12, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Patti  wrote:

> I am trying with no success to add another location to my weather apt. I 
> can't get to any button that says anything about add a new location. Any help 
> with be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Giraffe Reader for iPhone

[Alex Stone]

Thanks Anne, I'll try that, and I'll phone Sam if necessary, he seems 
very helpful!

On 13/03/2014 21:42, Anne Robertson wrote:

Hello Alex,

If you can find the little circles on one of the edges, put those 
underneath with your right-hand fingers on them. Unfold that flap 
downwards to the left, and the one under that to the right and lay the 
whole thing flat on a table. Put your right hand in the centre of the 
right-hand edge and your left forefinger in the nearest hole in the 
join between the left-hand section and the centre one. Raise the 
bottom edge slightly with your left thumb, while raising the 
right-hand edge with your right hand. You should feel the cardboard 
folding under your thumb, while the right-hand edge folds in to form a 
kind of cradle to hold the iPhone. Once the central portion is 
vertical, you'll see that in cross section, it's three sides of a 
rectangle which is what makes it stable. The iPhone fits snugly 
against a back-stop and between two raised sides. After that, it will 
be obvious how to position the document to be scanned.


Cheers,

Anne


On 13 Mar 2014, at 21:31, Alex Stone > wrote:


Anne, thanks for sending the link for the video, as I received mine 
on Tuesday, and haven't worked out how to put it together yet.

On 13/03/2014 17:01, Anne Robertson wrote:

Hello everyone,

Today, I received my Giraffe Reader for iPhone. This serves a 
similar purpose to that of the StandScan Pro, but it does not have 
any lighting. It is, however, much smaller and lighter, measuring 
about 26 cm by 21 cm when folded.


The Giraffe Reader is quicker to assemble than the StandScan Pro as 
it only has three sections. Once erected, it consists of a base 
which is roughly A5 size, an upright piece which is three sides of a 
rectangle in cross section, and a platform to hold the iPhone in place.


It is made of a plastic material that feels like shiny cardboard and 
is held in shape by magnets.


There is a video showing how to use the Giraffe Reader at:


Within the euro zone, the Giraffe reader costs EUR33.25.
In Britain, it costs £30.

You can contact its creator, Sam Jewell at:
sam.jew...@gmail.com 

I'll paste the result of my first scan using the Giraffe Reader 
below my signature. The item scanned is an exam paper for French 
student nurses who have to understand English.


Cheers,

Anne

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Re: Item chooser

[Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy]

The item chooser is used for finding all the items on the screen without 
scrolling. You can even type in the name of the item you want or just the first 
letter and select what you want.
HTH,
Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 14, 2014, at 0:04, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy 
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> Thanks.
> 
> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2014, at 22:45, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> 
>> It is a two-finger tripple tap.
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Please remind me how to activate the item chooser without a braille 
>>> keyboard.
>>> Thanks,
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RE: Item chooser

[Pinky]

I must have been sleeping as I do not know what the item chooser is.  Can
someone explain it to me.

Ed

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Two finger triple tap activates the item chooser. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

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> Thanks,
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Re: Giraffe Reader for iPhone

[Alex Stone]

Anne, me too!
On 13/03/2014 21:34, Anne Robertson wrote:

Hello David,

The Giraffe reader folds away to a much smaller package than the StandScan Pro 
and is much quicker to assemble. It takes up very little space when erected and 
would be practical to use in a restaurant to read the menu. It is not as good a 
solution as the StandScan Pro, but it has its place.

I suspect I'm going to get much more use out of the Giraffe Reader than the 
StandScan Pro because I can carry it in my handbag rather than in a backpack. 
It's maybe a female thing, or justmy age, but I don't like carrying a 
backpack everywhere.

Cheers,

Anne



On 13 Mar 2014, at 21:32, David Chittenden  wrote:


Wow, so for a price that is a few dollars more than the StandScan power bundle, 
I can get something similar to the StandScan pro, only without the lights. What 
a bargain.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA


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Re: I regret updating to 7.1

[Alex Stone]

I hadn't noticed this either.
On 13/03/2014 21:29, David Chittenden wrote:

I am not able to reproduce this. Have you rebooted your iOS device since 
upgrading?

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Sent from my iPhone


On 14 Mar 2014, at 9:02, James Lockwood  wrote:

I noticed some differences at least on my phone when it comes to the latest and 
one would assume greatest IOS. I updated today and voice over functions 
slightly differently. for example, if you wish to reply to an email, previously 
tapping on reply would bring up the usual message asking if you wish to reply 
or forward. before updating vioce over would have the focus on the window that 
popped up. now? no. the focus remains on the original reply button at the 
bottom. it also allows you to hit it again and again and again which brings up 
window after window after window asking if you wish to reply or forward. now 
you have to move your finger to focus voice over onto the popped up window 
after hitting that lower reply button. anyone else having this problem? hope 
you can understand and or produce this on your phone for those who have updated


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Re: Item chooser

[Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy]

Thanks.

Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
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>> Please remind me how to activate the item chooser without a braille keyboard.
>> Thanks,
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Re: Giraffe Reader for iPhone

[David Chittenden]

Thank you for your thoughtful response answering my rather cinical comment. 
That does make sense to me. As my briefcase is large enough for my StandScan 
Pro, I did not consider a smaller fold-up size. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:34, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello David,
> 
> The Giraffe reader folds away to a much smaller package than the StandScan 
> Pro and is much quicker to assemble. It takes up very little space when 
> erected and would be practical to use in a restaurant to read the menu. It is 
> not as good a solution as the StandScan Pro, but it has its place.
> 
> I suspect I'm going to get much more use out of the Giraffe Reader than the 
> StandScan Pro because I can carry it in my handbag rather than in a backpack. 
> It's maybe a female thing, or justmy age, but I don't like carrying a 
> backpack everywhere.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 13 Mar 2014, at 21:32, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, so for a price that is a few dollars more than the StandScan power 
>> bundle, I can get something similar to the StandScan pro, only without the 
>> lights. What a bargain. 
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Re: Giraffe Reader for iPhone

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Alex,

If you can find the little circles on one of the edges, put those underneath 
with your right-hand fingers on them. Unfold that flap downwards to the left, 
and the one under that to the right and lay the whole thing flat on a table. 
Put your right hand in the centre of the right-hand edge and your left 
forefinger in the nearest hole in the join between the left-hand section and 
the centre one. Raise the bottom edge slightly with your left thumb, while 
raising the right-hand edge with your right hand. You should feel the cardboard 
folding under your thumb, while the right-hand edge folds in to form a kind of 
cradle to hold the iPhone. Once the central portion is vertical, you'll see 
that in cross section, it's three sides of a rectangle which is what makes it 
stable. The iPhone fits snugly against a back-stop and between two raised 
sides. After that, it will be obvious how to position the document to be 
scanned.

Cheers,

Anne


On 13 Mar 2014, at 21:31, Alex Stone  wrote:

> Anne, thanks for sending the link for the video, as I received mine on 
> Tuesday, and haven't worked out how to put it together yet.
> On 13/03/2014 17:01, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Today, I received my Giraffe Reader for iPhone. This serves a similar 
>> purpose to that of the StandScan Pro, but it does not have any lighting. It 
>> is, however, much smaller and lighter, measuring about 26 cm by 21 cm when 
>> folded.
>> 
>> The Giraffe Reader is quicker to assemble than the StandScan Pro as it only 
>> has three sections. Once erected, it consists of a base which is roughly A5 
>> size, an upright piece which is three sides of a rectangle in cross section, 
>> and a platform to hold the iPhone in place.
>> 
>> It is made of a plastic material that feels like shiny cardboard and is held 
>> in shape by magnets.
>> 
>> There is a video showing how to use the Giraffe Reader at:
>> 
>> 
>> Within the euro zone, the Giraffe reader costs EURO 33.25.
>> In Britain, it costs £30.
>> 
>> You can contact its creator, Sam Jewell at:
>> sam.jew...@gmail.com
>> 
>> I'll paste the result of my first scan using the Giraffe Reader below my 
>> signature. The item scanned is an exam paper for French student nurses who 
>> have to understand English.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
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Re: Giraffe Reader for iPhone

[Anne Robertson]

Hello David,

The Giraffe reader folds away to a much smaller package than the StandScan Pro 
and is much quicker to assemble. It takes up very little space when erected and 
would be practical to use in a restaurant to read the menu. It is not as good a 
solution as the StandScan Pro, but it has its place.

I suspect I'm going to get much more use out of the Giraffe Reader than the 
StandScan Pro because I can carry it in my handbag rather than in a backpack. 
It's maybe a female thing, or justmy age, but I don't like carrying a 
backpack everywhere.

Cheers,

Anne



On 13 Mar 2014, at 21:32, David Chittenden  wrote:

> Wow, so for a price that is a few dollars more than the StandScan power 
> bundle, I can get something similar to the StandScan pro, only without the 
> lights. What a bargain. 
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

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Re: Gold awards in Dice world.

[Bluesman02]

Couldn't find you, sorry.

Try searching for me, Crazy Horse and see if you have any more luck.

Best regards,

Del


- Original Message - 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: Gold awards in Dice world.


Hi, it is not a guarantee that it will happen for every level. I'm rau47 
on there by the way if you want to try out your luck against me.


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On 3/11/2014 9:04 AM, Bluesman02 wrote:

Hi all,

A couple of days ago I noticed that I was not awarded 50 Gold after
completing the level i was on.  Has this been stopped or is it just my
bad luck, LOL.

Best regards,

Del

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Re: I regret updating to 7.1

[David Chittenden]

I am not able to reproduce this. Have you rebooted your iOS device since 
upgrading? 

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Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Mar 2014, at 9:02, James Lockwood  wrote:
> 
> I noticed some differences at least on my phone when it comes to the latest 
> and one would assume greatest IOS. I updated today and voice over functions 
> slightly differently. for example, if you wish to reply to an email, 
> previously tapping on reply would bring up the usual message asking if you 
> wish to reply or forward. before updating vioce over would have the focus on 
> the window that popped up. now? no. the focus remains on the original reply 
> button at the bottom. it also allows you to hit it again and again and again 
> which brings up window after window after window asking if you wish to reply 
> or forward. now you have to move your finger to focus voice over onto the 
> popped up window after hitting that lower reply button. anyone else having 
> this problem? hope you can understand and or produce this on your phone for 
> those who have updated 
> 
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Re: VoiceOver extremely loud after using dictation since iOS 7.1

[David Chittenden]

There are always bugs with something as complex as iOS. I used to study 
programming, and there are always bugs even in the simplest programs. The real, 
and only, question we should ever ask is, do the current features outweigh the 
current bugs. If so, upgrade. If not, stick with the older features and older 
bugs.

Also, bugs are almost never as easy to fix as non-programmers like to believe. 
Most of the time, bugs are caused by completely unrelated features. When bugs 
remain across generations of the software, it usually means the programmers 
have not yet been able to track down the cause or causes of the bug.

Finally, bugs that only occasionally occur are not reliably reproduced. This 
means, the cause is almost impossible to determine. 

For these reasons, I have absolutely no patience for anyone who says any 
problem / bug would be easy to fix. It is often difficult for me not to start 
ridiculing any person who starts making such ridiculous assertions.

Anyone who actually wants to see bugs / problems get fixed must clearly, 
concisely, and unemotionally, write down the specific steps that cause the bug 
/ problem to occur, preferably every time. The more emotional the letter, the 
less helpful it is for tracking down the problem / bug.

In this particular case, somebody else suggested turning down the volume of 
Siri for the person who was experiencing VO going loud. As my Siri volume is 
lower than my VO volume, this most likely means the Siri volume is grabbing / 
superseding the VO volume whilst Siri is active. Therefore, in my case, 
increasing Siri volume corrected the issue for me. My bug report on this matter 
merely states, The Siri volume on my iPhone 5 appears to take priority over my 
VoiceOver volume for a short time after I use Siri.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Mar 2014, at 9:40, "Crystal French"  wrote:
> 
> David,
> I have had the same issue as you.
>  
> Voice Over goes softer in volume after using dictation.
>  
> I couldn’t find the setting for VO volume, so put it on the roter.
>  
> This IOS version seems to be a very mixed bag of bugs.
>  
> Crystal
>  
> From: David Chittenden
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver extremely loud after using dictation since iOS 7.1
>  
> I occasionally have the opposite issue. Sometimes, VO becomes quieter after 
> dictation. I have not yet been able to reproduce it with any consistency. 
> 
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> > On 14 Mar 2014, at 0:09, "Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan" 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I really like the iOS 7.1 update so far. Apple has done an amazing job, as 
> > many bugs and annoyances have been fixed. However, there's something that 
> > makes using dictation less fun than before. When you dictate a text (no 
> > matter which app you are using) and double tap to stop dictation, VoiceOver 
> > is very loud, I guess as loud as Siri. It's still very loud when you close 
> > the app. So I start Siri, end it quickly, and VoiceOver is finally speaking 
> > with standard loudness again. Is anyone facing the same issue? I re-started 
> > the phone, but this didn't work. This loudness issue is something I only 
> > recognized after the update to 7.1. Before, only the beep tones that ended 
> > dictation and the repeated text were spoken loudly. Any idea how to fix 
> > this?
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Alexandra
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Re: Item chooser

[Julie Dawson]

What is the item chooser used for exactly? Thank you.
Julie
Live  simply,
 Love generously,
 Care  deeply,
 Speak  kindly
 And  leave the rest to God!

- Original Message - 
From: "David Chittenden" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: Item chooser



Two finger triple tap activates the item chooser.

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On 14 Mar 2014, at 9:44, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy 
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Please remind me how to activate the item chooser without a braille 
keyboard.

Thanks,
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Re: Item chooser

[David Chittenden]

Two finger triple tap activates the item chooser. 

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> Please remind me how to activate the item chooser without a braille keyboard.
> Thanks,
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Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1

[David Chittenden]

In that case, also go to settings, general, accessibility, home click speed, 
and set the speed to slow or slowest. 

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> On 13 Mar 2014, at 10:17, "Jim Ruby"  wrote:
> 
> Yes and I have reduce motion to on as she does have some moder problems.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of RobH!
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was)
> Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1
> 
> This is interesting!
> Now it is meant to be quick clicks,  but isn't there something under
> accessibility for motor skills if you can't click that fast?
> 
> If reliability can be demonstrated at speed,  we could request them slow it
> down a bit.  There was another issue of this sort which either got fixed or
> given an adjuster to moderate it at least.  I think mBraille was involved at
> the time.
> 
> Rh.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Debbie Downey" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:30 AM
> Subject: RE: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was)
> Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1
> 
> 
> HI Kimber,
> 
> I noticed the same thing last night; it is hit and miss as to whether you
> can turn speech on or off with the tripple click home and the same did
> happen with double click home to open the app switcher. I did find that if I
> tap the home key 3 times very quickly to turn voiceover on or off or twice
> very quickly to open the app switcher that it works more reliably.
> 
> Debbie
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) Trouble
> opening the app switcher under 7.1
> 
> Yesterday I posted about my issues opening the app switcher after upgrading
> to 7.1. What I now realize is if I turn off the tripple click for
> accessibility (to turn VO on or off), the home button works as it should
> with a double click bringing up the app switcher.
> 
> However, if I turn on tripple click for accessibility the home button
> doesn't work reliabily. Double click does not open the app switcher and
> tripple click does nothing at all. Occasionally a tripple click will cause
> the app switcher to open, but this behavior seems to be hit or miss.
> 
> I am running 7.1 on a 4s.
> 
> Thanks
> 
>> On 3/11/14, Tom Frank  wrote:
>> I have a 4S, just finished updating, and the app switcher works
> flawlessly.
>> No problems detected, at least not yet.
>> Tom Frank
>> vermont...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Kimber Gardner 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Since upgrading to 7.1, a double click of the home button no longer 
>>> opens the app switcher on my 4s. Can others confirm this behavior?
>>> 
>>> Kimber
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Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1

[David Chittenden]

No, Siri requires active internet. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 13 Mar 2014, at 10:16, "Jim Ruby"  wrote:
> 
> But if you have no internet for whatever reason can siri still turn things
> off/on on the phone?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of RobH!
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was)
> Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1
> 
> A thought:  if Siri on 7.* can turn VO on and off,  the triple-click-Home 
> isn't so important;  so can be disabled without being left stranded.
> 
> JaT, RobH.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) 
> Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1
> 
> 
> I have triple click of the home button set to start VoiceOver, and I
> have no trouble bringing up the App Switcher on my iPhone 4S.
> 
>> On 03/12/2014 05:55 AM, Kimber Gardner wrote:
>> Yesterday I posted about my issues opening the app switcher after
>> upgrading to 7.1. What I now realize is if I turn off the tripple
>> click for accessibility (to turn VO on or off), the home button works
>> as it should with a double click bringing up the app switcher.
>> 
>> However, if I turn on tripple click for accessibility the home button
>> doesn't work reliabily. Double click does not open the app switcher
>> and tripple click does nothing at all. Occasionally a tripple click
>> will cause the app switcher to open, but this behavior seems to be hit
>> or miss.
>> 
>> I am running 7.1 on a 4s.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>>> On 3/11/14, Tom Frank  wrote:
>>> I have a 4S, just finished updating, and the app switcher works 
>>> flawlessly.
>>> No problems detected, at least not yet.
>>> Tom Frank
>>> vermont...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Kimber Gardner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Since upgrading to 7.1, a double click of the home button no longer
 opens the app switcher on my 4s. Can others confirm this behavior?
 
 Kimber
 
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Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1

[David Chittenden]

No, this is not a problem with any iOS device unless the home button has warn 
out. The speed of the home button is the same across all iOS devices. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 13 Mar 2014, at 10:15, "Jim Ruby"  wrote:
> 
> I'm noticing this on the 4s, but 5s seems not to have this problem.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Debbie Downey
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was)
> Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1
> 
> HI Kimber,
> 
> I noticed the same thing last night; it is hit and miss as to whether you
> can turn speech on or off with the tripple click home and the same did
> happen with double click home to open the app switcher. I did find that if I
> tap the home key 3 times very quickly to turn voiceover on or off or twice
> very quickly to open the app switcher that it works more reliably. 
> 
> Debbie  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) Trouble
> opening the app switcher under 7.1
> 
> Yesterday I posted about my issues opening the app switcher after upgrading
> to 7.1. What I now realize is if I turn off the tripple click for
> accessibility (to turn VO on or off), the home button works as it should
> with a double click bringing up the app switcher.
> 
> However, if I turn on tripple click for accessibility the home button
> doesn't work reliabily. Double click does not open the app switcher and
> tripple click does nothing at all. Occasionally a tripple click will cause
> the app switcher to open, but this behavior seems to be hit or miss.
> 
> I am running 7.1 on a 4s.
> 
> Thanks
> 
>> On 3/11/14, Tom Frank  wrote:
>> I have a 4S, just finished updating, and the app switcher works
> flawlessly.
>> No problems detected, at least not yet.
>> Tom Frank
>> vermont...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Kimber Gardner 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Since upgrading to 7.1, a double click of the home button no longer 
>>> opens the app switcher on my 4s. Can others confirm this behavior?
>>> 
>>> Kimber
>>> 
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Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1

[David Chittenden]

Yes, go to settings, general, accessibility, home click speed, and adjust the 
speed of the home button between normal, slow, and slowest. Apple added this 
back in the initial 7.0 release. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 13 Mar 2014, at 1:44, "RobH!"  wrote:
> 
> This is interesting!
> Now it is meant to be quick clicks,  but isn't there something under 
> accessibility for motor skills if you can't click that fast?
> 
> If reliability can be demonstrated at speed,  we could request them slow it 
> down a bit.  There was another issue of this sort which either got fixed or 
> given an adjuster to moderate it at least.  I think mBraille was involved at 
> the time.
> 
> Rh.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Debbie Downey" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:30 AM
> Subject: RE: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) 
> Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1
> 
> 
> HI Kimber,
> 
> I noticed the same thing last night; it is hit and miss as to whether you
> can turn speech on or off with the tripple click home and the same did
> happen with double click home to open the app switcher. I did find that if I
> tap the home key 3 times very quickly to turn voiceover on or off or twice
> very quickly to open the app switcher that it works more reliably.
> 
> Debbie
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) Trouble
> opening the app switcher under 7.1
> 
> Yesterday I posted about my issues opening the app switcher after upgrading
> to 7.1. What I now realize is if I turn off the tripple click for
> accessibility (to turn VO on or off), the home button works as it should
> with a double click bringing up the app switcher.
> 
> However, if I turn on tripple click for accessibility the home button
> doesn't work reliabily. Double click does not open the app switcher and
> tripple click does nothing at all. Occasionally a tripple click will cause
> the app switcher to open, but this behavior seems to be hit or miss.
> 
> I am running 7.1 on a 4s.
> 
> Thanks
> 
>> On 3/11/14, Tom Frank  wrote:
>> I have a 4S, just finished updating, and the app switcher works
> flawlessly.
>> No problems detected, at least not yet.
>> Tom Frank
>> vermont...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Kimber Gardner
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Since upgrading to 7.1, a double click of the home button no longer
>>> opens the app switcher on my 4s. Can others confirm this behavior?
>>> 
>>> Kimber
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Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1

[David Chittenden]

If one is in noisy environments, or does not have internet access, Siri doesn't 
work very well, or at all. In these situations, it would be best to have home 
click speed set at the level one is comfortable with. Note: when setting slow 
or slowest, it will take longer for apps to return to home screen, or app 
switcher to activate, because iOS will need to wait longer before activating 
the chosen function of the home button. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 13 Mar 2014, at 1:40, "RobH!"  wrote:
> 
> A thought:  if Siri on 7.* can turn VO on and off,  the triple-click-Home 
> isn't so important;  so can be disabled without being left stranded.
> 
> JaT, RobH.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) 
> Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1
> 
> 
> I have triple click of the home button set to start VoiceOver, and I
> have no trouble bringing up the App Switcher on my iPhone 4S.
> 
>> On 03/12/2014 05:55 AM, Kimber Gardner wrote:
>> Yesterday I posted about my issues opening the app switcher after
>> upgrading to 7.1. What I now realize is if I turn off the tripple
>> click for accessibility (to turn VO on or off), the home button works
>> as it should with a double click bringing up the app switcher.
>> 
>> However, if I turn on tripple click for accessibility the home button
>> doesn't work reliabily. Double click does not open the app switcher
>> and tripple click does nothing at all. Occasionally a tripple click
>> will cause the app switcher to open, but this behavior seems to be hit
>> or miss.
>> 
>> I am running 7.1 on a 4s.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>>> On 3/11/14, Tom Frank  wrote:
>>> I have a 4S, just finished updating, and the app switcher works 
>>> flawlessly.
>>> No problems detected, at least not yet.
>>> Tom Frank
>>> vermont...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Kimber Gardner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Since upgrading to 7.1, a double click of the home button no longer
 opens the app switcher on my 4s. Can others confirm this behavior?
 
 Kimber
 
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Re: I regret updating to 7.1

[Jewel]

I was getting that bug in 7.0 .6
Still have that,
Jewel

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:02 PM, James Lockwood  wrote:
> 
> I noticed some differences at least on my phone when it comes to the latest 
> and one would assume greatest IOS. I updated today and voice over functions 
> slightly differently. for example, if you wish to reply to an email, 
> previously tapping on reply would bring up the usual message asking if you 
> wish to reply or forward. before updating vioce over would have the focus on 
> the window that popped up. now? no. the focus remains on the original reply 
> button at the bottom. it also allows you to hit it again and again and again 
> which brings up window after window after window asking if you wish to reply 
> or forward. now you have to move your finger to focus voice over onto the 
> popped up window after hitting that lower reply button. anyone else having 
> this problem? hope you can understand and or produce this on your phone for 
> those who have updated 
> 
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Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1

[David Chittenden]

The speed of the home button can be modified in settings, general, 
accessibility, home click speed. Select slow or slowest if more time is needed.

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> On 13 Mar 2014, at 0:44, "Bill Gallik"  wrote:
> 
> What I've discovered is that using the Home Button in 7.1 isn't quite as 
> patient a procedure as in previous iOS versions.  In order to launch the app 
> switcher, I must hit the Home Button twice somewhat more quickly than seems 
> to have been necessary in pre-7.1 iOS versions.  I presume the same is likely 
> true for toggling VoiceOver off and on.
> 
> Holland's Boy, Bill
> - "The bad end unhappily, the good unluckily. That is what tragedy means."
> - Tom Stoppard, Czech Playwright and screenwriter, 1937- 
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Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1

[David Chittenden]

Yes, this is correct, when home click speed is set to normal, the home button 
must be pressed very quickly. To slow it down a little, change the speed of the 
home button in settings, general, accessibility, home click speed. 

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> On 13 Mar 2014, at 0:30, "Debbie Downey"  wrote:
> 
> HI Kimber,
> 
> I noticed the same thing last night; it is hit and miss as to whether you
> can turn speech on or off with the tripple click home and the same did
> happen with double click home to open the app switcher. I did find that if I
> tap the home key 3 times very quickly to turn voiceover on or off or twice
> very quickly to open the app switcher that it works more reliably. 
> 
> Debbie  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) Trouble
> opening the app switcher under 7.1
> 
> Yesterday I posted about my issues opening the app switcher after upgrading
> to 7.1. What I now realize is if I turn off the tripple click for
> accessibility (to turn VO on or off), the home button works as it should
> with a double click bringing up the app switcher.
> 
> However, if I turn on tripple click for accessibility the home button
> doesn't work reliabily. Double click does not open the app switcher and
> tripple click does nothing at all. Occasionally a tripple click will cause
> the app switcher to open, but this behavior seems to be hit or miss.
> 
> I am running 7.1 on a 4s.
> 
> Thanks
> 
>> On 3/11/14, Tom Frank  wrote:
>> I have a 4S, just finished updating, and the app switcher works
> flawlessly.
>> No problems detected, at least not yet.
>> Tom Frank
>> vermont...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Kimber Gardner 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Since upgrading to 7.1, a double click of the home button no longer 
>>> opens the app switcher on my 4s. Can others confirm this behavior?
>>> 
>>> Kimber
>>> 
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Re: VoiceOver extremely loud after using dictation since iOS 7.1

[Brett]

Hi, 

although it shouldn't, it seems like the VoiceOver volume is getting tied to 
the seri volume. 

You can hold down the home button while pressing the volume buttons to  adjust 
the Seri volume to bring it more in to line with the VoiceOver volume. 

Hope this helps, 
Brett.


Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

> On 14 Mar 2014, at 7:40 am, "Crystal French"  wrote:
> 
> David,
> I have had the same issue as you.
>  
> Voice Over goes softer in volume after using dictation.
>  
> I couldn’t find the setting for VO volume, so put it on the roter.
>  
> This IOS version seems to be a very mixed bag of bugs.
>  
> Crystal
>  
> From: David Chittenden
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver extremely loud after using dictation since iOS 7.1
>  
> I occasionally have the opposite issue. Sometimes, VO becomes quieter after 
> dictation. I have not yet been able to reproduce it with any consistency. 
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 14 Mar 2014, at 0:09, "Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan" 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I really like the iOS 7.1 update so far. Apple has done an amazing job, as 
> > many bugs and annoyances have been fixed. However, there's something that 
> > makes using dictation less fun than before. When you dictate a text (no 
> > matter which app you are using) and double tap to stop dictation, VoiceOver 
> > is very loud, I guess as loud as Siri. It's still very loud when you close 
> > the app. So I start Siri, end it quickly, and VoiceOver is finally speaking 
> > with standard loudness again. Is anyone facing the same issue? I re-started 
> > the phone, but this didn't work. This loudness issue is something I only 
> > recognized after the update to 7.1. Before, only the beep tones that ended 
> > dictation and the repeated text were spoken loudly. Any idea how to fix 
> > this?
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Alexandra
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Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1

[David Chittenden]

This means you are taking too long between presses of the home button. Go to 
settings, general, accessibility, home click speed, and set the speed to slow 
or slowest.

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> On 12 Mar 2014, at 23:55, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
> 
> Yesterday I posted about my issues opening the app switcher after
> upgrading to 7.1. What I now realize is if I turn off the tripple
> click for accessibility (to turn VO on or off), the home button works
> as it should with a double click bringing up the app switcher.
> 
> However, if I turn on tripple click for accessibility the home button
> doesn't work reliabily. Double click does not open the app switcher
> and tripple click does nothing at all. Occasionally a tripple click
> will cause the app switcher to open, but this behavior seems to be hit
> or miss.
> 
> I am running 7.1 on a 4s.
> 
> Thanks
> 
>> On 3/11/14, Tom Frank  wrote:
>> I have a 4S, just finished updating, and the app switcher works flawlessly.
>> No problems detected, at least not yet.
>> Tom Frank
>> vermont...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Kimber Gardner 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Since upgrading to 7.1, a double click of the home button no longer
>>> opens the app switcher on my 4s. Can others confirm this behavior?
>>> 
>>> Kimber
>>> 
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Re: Item chooser

[Jennie Facer]

It is a two-finger tripple tap.

Jenn

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> Please remind me how to activate the item chooser without a braille keyboard.
> Thanks,
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Item chooser

[Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy]

Please remind me how to activate the item chooser without a braille keyboard.
Thanks,
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Re: Resources for Baseball News

[Sean Paul]

Eric:
You've probably got about the best place for baseball news. A great app 
which I'd also suggest is MLB trade rumors. I think it's like 2.99 but well 
worth it. I also follow many of the baseball writers on twitter as well as 
subscribe to the Baseball Tonight podcast which Buster Olmy does each 
morning around 11 eastern during spring training thru the World Series. 
He'll also do some updates during the winter months as well, but, its not 
every day or even every week.
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 13:40
Subject: Resources for Baseball News



Anymore, I do the vast majority of reading on my iPhone.

Does anyone have a good resource or two for baseball news accessible on 
the
phone. I am not looking for stat-heavy reporting but just general talk. I 
do

subscribe to At Bat.

Thanks for suggestions!

Eric


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Re: VoiceOver extremely loud after using dictation since iOS 7.1

[Crystal French]

David,
I have had the same issue as you.

Voice Over goes softer in volume after using dictation.

I couldn’t find the setting for VO volume, so put it on the roter.

This IOS version seems to be a very mixed bag of bugs.

Crystal 

From: David Chittenden 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: VoiceOver extremely loud after using dictation since iOS 7.1

I occasionally have the opposite issue. Sometimes, VO becomes quieter after 
dictation. I have not yet been able to reproduce it with any consistency. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Mar 2014, at 0:09, "Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I really like the iOS 7.1 update so far. Apple has done an amazing job, as 
> many bugs and annoyances have been fixed. However, there's something that 
> makes using dictation less fun than before. When you dictate a text (no 
> matter which app you are using) and double tap to stop dictation, VoiceOver 
> is very loud, I guess as loud as Siri. It's still very loud when you close 
> the app. So I start Siri, end it quickly, and VoiceOver is finally speaking 
> with standard loudness again. Is anyone facing the same issue? I re-started 
> the phone, but this didn't work. This loudness issue is something I only 
> recognized after the update to 7.1. Before, only the beep tones that ended 
> dictation and the repeated text were spoken loudly. Any idea how to fix 
> this?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Alexandra
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Re: VoiceStream and Kyndall

[Gmail]

Whoops, sorry about that. I'll shut up about it now. :)


Thanks,Ari

> On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:27 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
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> The legality of removing DRM in the US is not clear. Allowing the removal of 
> DRM for personal use or for accessibility purposes is not specifically called 
> out in the DMCA. IMHO, I think it's legal under the fair use law in the US, 
> but the court verdicts are ambiguous so far.
> 
> Note that I'm not a lawyer, and my information above may be stale by a year 
> or two.
> 
> Furthernote that the moderators of this list have asked that removing DRM not 
> be discussed since it's legality is in question. It also generally violates 
> your usage agreement with your source for the DRM files.
> 
> On 03/12/2014 11:22 PM, Gmail wrote:
>>> 
>>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I saw somewhere that stripping DRM from
>>> ebooks EBooks for personal use only if you're blind is legal, at least
>>> in the United States. Though now that Kindle books have become
>>> accessible, at least with the Kindle iOS app this is partially negated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
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Re: Giraffe Reader for iPhone

[Alex Stone]

Anne, thanks for sending the link for the video, as I received mine on 
Tuesday, and haven't worked out how to put it together yet.

On 13/03/2014 17:01, Anne Robertson wrote:

Hello everyone,

Today, I received my Giraffe Reader for iPhone. This serves a similar 
purpose to that of the StandScan Pro, but it does not have any 
lighting. It is, however, much smaller and lighter, measuring about 26 
cm by 21 cm when folded.


The Giraffe Reader is quicker to assemble than the StandScan Pro as it 
only has three sections. Once erected, it consists of a base which is 
roughly A5 size, an upright piece which is three sides of a rectangle 
in cross section, and a platform to hold the iPhone in place.


It is made of a plastic material that feels like shiny cardboard and 
is held in shape by magnets.


There is a video showing how to use the Giraffe Reader at:


Within the euro zone, the Giraffe reader costs EUR33.25.
In Britain, it costs £30.

You can contact its creator, Sam Jewell at:
sam.jew...@gmail.com 

I'll paste the result of my first scan using the Giraffe Reader below 
my signature. The item scanned is an exam paper for French student 
nurses who have to understand English.


Cheers,

Anne

2008, GP figures show. 1 his meanb 070 ui u.
850,000 more have diabetes without knowing it. Diabetes UK says the 
rise is largely fuelled by
type 2 diabetes, linked to obesity and unhealthy lifestyles. The 
survey combined GP data from
England^Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales to calculate the overall 
figure of how many people

in the UK are diagnosed with diabetes.
Type 1 diabetes accounts for about a tenth of cases and occurs when 
the insulin-producing cells in

the body have been destroyed.
Type 2 diabetes develops when the insutin-producing cells in the body 
are unable to produce enough insulin, or when the insulin that is 
produced does not work properly.
Insulin enables the body to use sugar as energy and store any excess 
in the liver and muscle.
If this fails, blood sugar rises and this can cause long-term 
complications, such as kidney damage.
The NHS spends 10% of its budget on diabetes and 80% of this goes on 
treating consequences such as amputation, kidney failure, heart 
disease and stroke.

TEXT 2: HiRh Blood Pressure
What Causes High Blood Pressure?
The exact causes of high blood pressure are not known, but several 
factors and conditions may play a role in

its development, including:
Smoking
Being overweight or obese
Lack of physical activity
Too much salt in the diet
Too much alcohol consumption (more than 1 to 2 drinks per day)
Stress
Older age
Genetics
Family history of high blood pressure
Chronic kidney disease
Adrenal and thyroid disorders
If your blood pressure is extremely high, there may be certain 
symptoms to look out for, including:

Severe headaches
Fatigue or confusion
Vision problems
Chest pain
Difficulty breathing
Irregular heartbeat
Blood in the urine
Pounding in your chest, neck, or ears > I ^
llfckfcfc^

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Re: Giraffe Reader for iPhone

[David Chittenden]

Wow, so for a price that is a few dollars more than the StandScan power bundle, 
I can get something similar to the StandScan pro, only without the lights. What 
a bargain. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Mar 2014, at 6:01, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> Today, I received my Giraffe Reader for iPhone. This serves a similar purpose 
> to that of the StandScan Pro, but it does not have any lighting. It is, 
> however, much smaller and lighter, measuring about 26 cm by 21 cm when folded.
> 
> The Giraffe Reader is quicker to assemble than the StandScan Pro as it only 
> has three sections. Once erected, it consists of a base which is roughly A5 
> size, an upright piece which is three sides of a rectangle in cross section, 
> and a platform to hold the iPhone in place.
> 
> It is made of a plastic material that feels like shiny cardboard and is held 
> in shape by magnets.
> 
> There is a video showing how to use the Giraffe Reader at:
> 
> 
> Within the euro zone, the Giraffe reader costs €33.25.
> In Britain, it costs £30.
> 
> You can contact its creator, Sam Jewell at:
> sam.jew...@gmail.com
> 
> I’ll paste the result of my first scan using the Giraffe Reader below my 
> signature. The item scanned is an exam paper for French student nurses who 
> have to understand English.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 2008, GP figures show. 1 his meanb 070 ui u. 
> 850,000 more have diabetes without knowing it. Diabetes UK says the rise is 
> largely fuelled by 
> type 2 diabetes, linked to obesity and unhealthy lifestyles. The survey 
> combined GP data from 
> England^Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales to calculate the overall figure 
> of how many people 
> in the UK are diagnosed with diabetes. 
> Type 1 diabetes accounts for about a tenth of cases and occurs when the 
> insulin-producing cells in 
> the body have been destroyed. 
> Type 2 diabetes develops when the insutin-producing cells in the body are 
> unable to produce enough insulin, or when the insulin that is produced does 
> not work properly. 
> Insulin enables the body to use sugar as energy and store any excess in the 
> liver and muscle. 
> If this fails, blood sugar rises and this can cause long-term complications, 
> such as kidney damage. 
> The NHS spends 10% of its budget on diabetes and 80% of this goes on treating 
> consequences such as amputation, kidney failure, heart disease and stroke. 
> TEXT 2: HiRh Blood Pressure 
> What Causes High Blood Pressure? 
> The exact causes of high blood pressure are not known, but several factors 
> and conditions may play a role in 
> its development, including: 
> Smoking 
> Being overweight or obese 
> Lack of physical activity 
> Too much salt in the diet 
> Too much alcohol consumption (more than 1 to 2 drinks per day) 
> Stress 
> Older age 
> Genetics 
> Family history of high blood pressure 
> Chronic kidney disease 
> Adrenal and thyroid disorders 
> If your blood pressure is extremely high, there may be certain symptoms to 
> look out for, including: 
> Severe headaches 
> Fatigue or confusion 
> Vision problems 
> Chest pain 
> Difficulty breathing 
> Irregular heartbeat 
> Blood in the urine 
> Pounding in your chest, neck, or ears > I ^ 
> llfckfcfc^
> 
> Grabbed with TextGrabber
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Re: VoiceOver extremely loud after using dictation since iOS 7.1

[David Chittenden]

I occasionally have the opposite issue. Sometimes, VO becomes quieter after 
dictation. I have not yet been able to reproduce it with any consistency. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Mar 2014, at 0:09, "Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I really like the iOS 7.1 update so far. Apple has done an amazing job, as 
> many bugs and annoyances have been fixed. However, there's something that 
> makes using dictation less fun than before. When you dictate a text (no 
> matter which app you are using) and double tap to stop dictation, VoiceOver 
> is very loud, I guess as loud as Siri. It's still very loud when you close 
> the app. So I start Siri, end it quickly, and VoiceOver is finally speaking 
> with standard loudness again. Is anyone facing the same issue? I re-started 
> the phone, but this didn't work. This loudness issue is something I only 
> recognized after the update to 7.1. Before, only the beep tones that ended 
> dictation and the repeated text were spoken loudly. Any idea how to fix 
> this?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Alexandra
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Re: keyboard command

[SoonerAnnie]

Unfortunately, it sure does! I have an Amazon Basics keyboard which I love, 
but nowhere can I find a key or key combination that locks the screen on my 
phone!

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Subject: RE: keyboard command


I think it depends on the keyboard.

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what is the keyboard command to lock the screen on an iDevice?

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I regret updating to 7.1

[James Lockwood]

I noticed some differences at least on my phone when it comes to the latest and 
one would assume greatest IOS. I updated today and voice over functions 
slightly differently. for example, if you wish to reply to an email, previously 
tapping on reply would bring up the usual message asking if you wish to reply 
or forward. before updating vioce over would have the focus on the window that 
popped up. now? no. the focus remains on the original reply button at the 
bottom. it also allows you to hit it again and again and again which brings up 
window after window after window asking if you wish to reply or forward. now 
you have to move your finger to focus voice over onto the popped up window 
after hitting that lower reply button. anyone else having this problem? hope 
you can understand and or produce this on your phone for those who have updated 


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Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1

[Sandratomkins]

Wayne,
You have just given me a rather good idea! Have you ever tried talking to Seery 
using the keyboard, that is, qwerty or Braille? I think, at a pinch, it may be 
possible! But, and this is more likely, it wouldn't be too difficult for Siri 
to be adapted for it.

hm, The little grey cells are heating up…

Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 13 Mar 2014, at 18:53, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Another thing is that some of us don't use Siri. Yes, Siri is great,
> not questioning that, but I don't use it since I have not had very
> much success with Siri. My voice is of a lower pitch and I tend to
> speak quieter. I do have a hearing loss. My father-in-law also has one
> and doesn't use Siri. He would probably have trouble hearing Siri.
> 
> Regards,
> Wayne
> 
>> On 3/12/14, Alex Stone  wrote:
>> Unfortunately Siri can't do anything without an internet connection.
>>> On 12/03/2014 21:16, Jim Ruby wrote:
>>> But if you have no internet for whatever reason can siri still turn
>>> things
>>> off/on on the phone?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of RobH!
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was)
>>> Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1
>>> 
>>> A thought:  if Siri on 7.* can turn VO on and off,  the triple-click-Home
>>> isn't so important;  so can be disabled without being left stranded.
>>> 
>>> JaT, RobH.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:27 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was)
>>> Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have triple click of the home button set to start VoiceOver, and I
>>> have no trouble bringing up the App Switcher on my iPhone 4S.
>>> 
 On 03/12/2014 05:55 AM, Kimber Gardner wrote:
 Yesterday I posted about my issues opening the app switcher after
 upgrading to 7.1. What I now realize is if I turn off the tripple
 click for accessibility (to turn VO on or off), the home button works
 as it should with a double click bringing up the app switcher.
 
 However, if I turn on tripple click for accessibility the home button
 doesn't work reliabily. Double click does not open the app switcher
 and tripple click does nothing at all. Occasionally a tripple click
 will cause the app switcher to open, but this behavior seems to be hit
 or miss.
 
 I am running 7.1 on a 4s.
 
 Thanks
 
> On 3/11/14, Tom Frank  wrote:
> I have a 4S, just finished updating, and the app switcher works
> flawlessly.
> No problems detected, at least not yet.
> Tom Frank
> vermont...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Kimber Gardner
> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Since upgrading to 7.1, a double click of the home button no longer
>> opens the app switcher on my 4s. Can others confirm this behavior?
>> 
>> Kimber
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Re: keyboard command

[Apple boy]

With Type2Phone a mac application available from the Mac App Store that 
turns your mac into a bluetooth keyboard for your iDevice it's f3.


Regards Chris

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what is the keyboard command to lock the screen on an iDevice?

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RE: Calculator App for iPad

[Jennie Facer]

There is one called BigCalc. The free version works just great.

Jenn

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Hi All,

I'm looking for a calculator app for my iPad Air.  I'd like it to be as
simple as that found on the iPhone 5s.  Why they didn't think you would need
one on iPad is beyond me.

Is there such an animal?



Alan

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RE: keyboard command

[Jennie Facer]

I think it depends on the keyboard.

Jenn

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Re: keyboard command

[Jewel]

On my keyboard, I press Num Lock and it locks the screen. I don't know
if that's for all keyboards...
~Jewel

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Re: google calendar and the iphone

[Wayne Merritt]

Going through the pile of email from this list. Anyway, if you enable
the Google Calendar and you also sync/backup with iCloud, be aware
that you will probably have some duplicate appointments. I have mine
set up this way and even though I get duplicate events, at least I
have my calendar syncing with 2 different services, which helps if one
service goes down.

Wayne

On 3/11/14, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> Yes you can. If you turn on calendar when you create a Google account
> then the Calendar app will let you work with your Google Calendar. BTW,
> I find the Google Calendar is also accessible with Orca and Firefox, so
> I would assume that's also true with most screen reader / browser
> combinations.
>
> On 03/11/2014 01:24 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
>> Hey guys,
>> Anyone know if the google calendar is accessible with the iphone?
>> Here's the situation.  I am working with a group, and they use google
>> calendar to schedule people.  Can I do this with the iphone?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jed
>>
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keyboard command

[Robert Doc Wright]

what is the keyboard command to lock the screen on an iDevice?

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Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was) Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1

[Wayne Merritt]

Another thing is that some of us don't use Siri. Yes, Siri is great,
not questioning that, but I don't use it since I have not had very
much success with Siri. My voice is of a lower pitch and I tend to
speak quieter. I do have a hearing loss. My father-in-law also has one
and doesn't use Siri. He would probably have trouble hearing Siri.

Regards,
Wayne

On 3/12/14, Alex Stone  wrote:
> Unfortunately Siri can't do anything without an internet connection.
> On 12/03/2014 21:16, Jim Ruby wrote:
>> But if you have no internet for whatever reason can siri still turn
>> things
>> off/on on the phone?
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of RobH!
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was)
>> Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1
>>
>> A thought:  if Siri on 7.* can turn VO on and off,  the triple-click-Home
>> isn't so important;  so can be disabled without being left stranded.
>>
>> JaT, RobH.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: Tripple click for accessibility not working properly (was)
>> Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1
>>
>>
>> I have triple click of the home button set to start VoiceOver, and I
>> have no trouble bringing up the App Switcher on my iPhone 4S.
>>
>> On 03/12/2014 05:55 AM, Kimber Gardner wrote:
>>> Yesterday I posted about my issues opening the app switcher after
>>> upgrading to 7.1. What I now realize is if I turn off the tripple
>>> click for accessibility (to turn VO on or off), the home button works
>>> as it should with a double click bringing up the app switcher.
>>>
>>> However, if I turn on tripple click for accessibility the home button
>>> doesn't work reliabily. Double click does not open the app switcher
>>> and tripple click does nothing at all. Occasionally a tripple click
>>> will cause the app switcher to open, but this behavior seems to be hit
>>> or miss.
>>>
>>> I am running 7.1 on a 4s.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On 3/11/14, Tom Frank  wrote:
 I have a 4S, just finished updating, and the app switcher works
 flawlessly.
 No problems detected, at least not yet.
 Tom Frank
 vermont...@gmail.com




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Re: Inconsistent VoiceOver Page Announcement Wehn Paging Through Screens

[Mich]

hi yes I have found this happins when you use the swipe up with one finger 
it used to be that vo would anounce the page number but now it doesn't seem 
to do this. from Mich.
- Original Message - 
From: "Wayne Merritt" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Inconsistent VoiceOver Page Announcement Wehn Paging Through 
Screens




Since you are now in iOS 7, did you know you can also use the
handwriting feature to open apps on different pages? If you have aps
that you routinely go to on different pages, you can turn the rodar to
handwriting, and simply draw the letters on screen. I don't think you
have to enable this feature, but could be wrong on that.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 3/13/14, Alan Lemly  wrote:
I' upgraded to iOS 7.1 from 6.1.4 a couple of days ago and am really 
liking
it. One inconsistency I've noticed is that when I'm paging through my 
apps
using 3-finger swipes left and right that sometimes VoiceOver announces 
the
page number I've moved to and sometimes it doesn't. I can't determine 
that

I've done anything differently when it does announce the page numbers.



This is not a major problem but it is inconvenient because I've memorized
which apps are on which page and it's easy to lose track when I've got
seven
screens of apps. I don't need any recommendation about using groups 
because

I like having the apps individually available on the pages.



I'm just curious if anyone else has experienced this behavior and if so
might have figured out a way to correct it. Also, has anyone experienced
this with prior iOS 7 versions or is it new with 7.1?



Thanks in advance for any assistance.



Alan Lemly

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Re: Inconsistent VoiceOver Page Announcement Wehn Paging Through Screens

[Wayne Merritt]

Since you are now in iOS 7, did you know you can also use the
handwriting feature to open apps on different pages? If you have aps
that you routinely go to on different pages, you can turn the rodar to
handwriting, and simply draw the letters on screen. I don't think you
have to enable this feature, but could be wrong on that.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 3/13/14, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> I' upgraded to iOS 7.1 from 6.1.4 a couple of days ago and am really liking
> it. One inconsistency I've noticed is that when I'm paging through my apps
> using 3-finger swipes left and right that sometimes VoiceOver announces the
> page number I've moved to and sometimes it doesn't. I can't determine that
> I've done anything differently when it does announce the page numbers.
>
>
>
> This is not a major problem but it is inconvenient because I've memorized
> which apps are on which page and it's easy to lose track when I've got
> seven
> screens of apps. I don't need any recommendation about using groups because
> I like having the apps individually available on the pages.
>
>
>
> I'm just curious if anyone else has experienced this behavior and if so
> might have figured out a way to correct it. Also, has anyone experienced
> this with prior iOS 7 versions or is it new with 7.1?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
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Re: Safari in 7.1

[CrazyEyez]

I noticed it as well, I was tripping out first, like where the hell did my 
address bar go?
But I do like this new feature.

Sent from my iPhone

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> I have noticed this change. I like it as well. It makes sense, but it
> was a bit startling at first *smile*.
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>> On 3/12/14, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Has anyone noticed in safari that the address button now says the name of
>> the web site you are on instead of just saying address button?
>> I think this is a good change.
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Re: auto switch bitween languages

[Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy]

I've been having this problem too.

Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
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> On Mar 13, 2014, at 19:56, ramy moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> as appears from name my 1st language is arabic. and i bought iphone instead 
> of my nokia for many reasons  bitween reasons is the auto switchng bitween 
> languages, but withh ios7.1, if voice over find a word in arabic, it reads 
> all the notification by arabic language even thhe notification can containn 
> english words,
> don't know  how can apple distroy something when developping, but can you 
> send me the accessibility emmail to contact them?
> thanks so much 
> 
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Re: Papa sangre II level 19

[Teresa Cochran]

Yes, I think so. Once you start getting into noisy crunchy situations 
everywhere, you just have to run for it; no fancy stuff required. :)

Teresa

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On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:40 AM, peter  wrote:

> is it the same as in Papa Sangre 1 on level 14 and the chess board? :)
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 03:07:15AM -0700, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> I'm afraid the trick is to be very fast. Toward the end, you can't afford to 
>> wait and you must just make a run for it. Knowing where the exit is helps, 
>> so memorize your way to the exit and run for your life.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod
>> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:44 AM, Peter Durieux  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi listers,
>>> Can someone tell me the secret to misslead those lovely husks  after 
>>> releasing the music. I wait till the sound of thunder, smash the box and 
>>> become food. Tips are welcome  :)
>>> 
>>> With kind regards,
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Re: Ipa

[Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy]

Thanks. :) I discovered that if you select a European language like Spanish, 
you can also read Hebrew. I'm bringing this up here because I was hoping the 
IPA table was "hidden" away in a similar way. I could never find a list of 
those tables. Does anyone know anything about them?


Too bad about the IPA. I use it a lot in university. 
Thanks for bearing with me,Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
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> On Mar 13, 2014, at 18:54, Scott Davert  wrote:
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> Hi Haya.
> I'm afraid not. I know that's not the answer you wanted, but there it is.
> 
> Best,
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>> On 3/13/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
>> I read somewhere that there is a braille table for the international
>> phonetic association. Does the iPhone know this table? I've tried googling
>> this but couldn't find an answer.
>> 
>> Thanks,
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auto switch bitween languages

[ramy moustafa]

Hi all:
as appears from name my 1st language is arabic. and i bought iphone instead of 
my nokia for many reasons  bitween reasons is the auto switchng bitween 
languages, but withh ios7.1, if voice over find a word in arabic, it reads all 
the notification by arabic language even thhe notification can containn english 
words,
don't know  how can apple distroy something when developping, but can you send 
me the accessibility emmail to contact them?
thanks so much 

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Inconsistent VoiceOver Page Announcement Wehn Paging Through Screens

[Alan Lemly]

I' upgraded to iOS 7.1 from 6.1.4 a couple of days ago and am really liking
it. One inconsistency I've noticed is that when I'm paging through my apps
using 3-finger swipes left and right that sometimes VoiceOver announces the
page number I've moved to and sometimes it doesn't. I can't determine that
I've done anything differently when it does announce the page numbers.

 

This is not a major problem but it is inconvenient because I've memorized
which apps are on which page and it's easy to lose track when I've got seven
screens of apps. I don't need any recommendation about using groups because
I like having the apps individually available on the pages.

 

I'm just curious if anyone else has experienced this behavior and if so
might have figured out a way to correct it. Also, has anyone experienced
this with prior iOS 7 versions or is it new with 7.1?

 

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

 

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external keyboard with ios7.1.

[ramy moustafa]

Hi all:
don't know if some people hhere see that after updating to ios7.1, we have a 
major big issue in using the external keyboard with iphone, we must close it 
and open again each time that i need to write somethhing. don't know how apple 
can not take care of something big like this. but anyway i hope that we all 
must contact them to fix this immediately specially for blinds as we r using 
these keyboards in our  day and night.

Ramy moustafa saber
Musicc instructor at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
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Resources for Baseball News

[SSEric]

Anymore, I do the vast majority of reading on my iPhone.

Does anyone have a good resource or two for baseball news accessible on the
phone. I am not looking for stat-heavy reporting but just general talk. I do
subscribe to At Bat.

Thanks for suggestions!

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Help with 2 problems please

[gracewellness]

Hello,

I got the 4S a few days ago. I have 2 problems:
1. When the phone rings I tap with 2 fingers twice, but the phone continues 
ringing and I lose the call.
2. When I try to put it off, I tap with 1 finger once, but instead of 
turning off, the phone calls the person who called me, and I have to try 
lots of times to turn it off.

What do I do wrong?
Thank you,
Rena

- Original Message - 
From: "Apple boy" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: New user needing help



First go to
www.applevis.com
second you press and hold the button until it says power off button. Then 
double tap anywhere with one finger and one finger only to activate the 
button.



Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 10/03/2014 13:22, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote:

Hello,

I got my iPhone 4S last Saturday. I know nothing and I never used Apple. 
Is there any list of gestures or commands? What's the best way to learn 
to use my iPhone?
I find difficult to turn it off. When I press the button it says the 
time, screen lock, something about notifications, but it continues on. My 
sighted cousin told me that I have to tap to turn it off, I'm not sure 
where.

Thank you for any help,
Rena



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Giraffe Reader for iPhone

[Anne Robertson]

Hello everyone,

Today, I received my Giraffe Reader for iPhone. This serves a similar purpose 
to that of the StandScan Pro, but it does not have any lighting. It is, 
however, much smaller and lighter, measuring about 26 cm by 21 cm when folded.

The Giraffe Reader is quicker to assemble than the StandScan Pro as it only has 
three sections. Once erected, it consists of a base which is roughly A5 size, 
an upright piece which is three sides of a rectangle in cross section, and a 
platform to hold the iPhone in place.

It is made of a plastic material that feels like shiny cardboard and is held in 
shape by magnets.

There is a video showing how to use the Giraffe Reader at:


Within the euro zone, the Giraffe reader costs EURO 33.25.
In Britain, it costs £30.

You can contact its creator, Sam Jewell at:
sam.jew...@gmail.com

I'll paste the result of my first scan using the Giraffe Reader below my 
signature. The item scanned is an exam paper for French student nurses who have 
to understand English.

Cheers,

Anne

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Re: VoiceOver extremely loud after using dictation since iOS 7.1

[Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan]

Thanks, Christine, this worked perfectly well.

Best, Alexandra

- Original Message - 
From: "Christina C." 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: VoiceOver extremely loud after using dictation since iOS 7.1


So far, I have not noticed this but try using Siri for something via the 
home button where Siri has to speak for a bitt. For example, you could have 
her read a wikipedia article or you could dictate a text to someone, or 
define a word. While Siri is speaking to you adjust the volume via the 
volume up and down buttons to the volume you prefer. Then you can see if 
that will fix the volume when you are using dictation in another app.

HTH and good luck,
Christina :)

On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan 
 wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I really like the iOS 7.1 update so far. Apple has done an amazing job, as
> many bugs and annoyances have been fixed. However, there's something that
> makes using dictation less fun than before. When you dictate a text (no
> matter which app you are using) and double tap to stop dictation, 
> VoiceOver
> is very loud, I guess as loud as Siri. It's still very loud when you close
> the app. So I start Siri, end it quickly, and VoiceOver is finally 
> speaking
> with standard loudness again. Is anyone facing the same issue? I 
> re-started
> the phone, but this didn't work. This loudness issue is something I only
> recognized after the update to 7.1. Before, only the beep tones that ended
> dictation and the repeated text were spoken loudly. Any idea how to fix
> this?
>
> Best,
>
> Alexandra
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iPad sometimes freezes when doing emails

[Cheryl Homiak]

I have had some issues when using my Braille Edge and my iPad and sometimes my 
bluetooth keyboard. Things will be going fine when suddenly controls won't work 
on any of the keyboards and I either get nothing or a clunking sound when I try 
to touch on the iPad itself.  Sometimes this seems to solve itself but I have 
lost a couple of emails I was writing because I was suddenly brought back to 
the home screen. Then everything started working but the email I was working on 
was not saved in a couple of instances. Has anybody had this kind of an issue 
and is there something I can do to prevent it or get out of it without losing 
an email being composed?

Thanks.

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Re: Ipa

[Scott Davert]

Hi Haya.
I'm afraid not. I know that's not the answer you wanted, but there it is.

Best,
Scott

On 3/13/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
> I read somewhere that there is a braille table for the international
> phonetic association. Does the iPhone know this table? I've tried googling
> this but couldn't find an answer.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: VoiceOver extremely loud after using dictation since iOS 7.1

[Christina C.]

So far, I have not noticed this but try using Siri for something via the home 
button where Siri has to speak for a bitt. For example, you could have her read 
a wikipedia article or you could dictate a text to someone, or define a word. 
While Siri is speaking to you adjust the volume via the volume up and down 
buttons to the volume you prefer. Then you can see if that will fix the volume 
when you are using dictation in another app.

HTH and good luck,
Christina :)

On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan 
 wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I really like the iOS 7.1 update so far. Apple has done an amazing job, as 
> many bugs and annoyances have been fixed. However, there's something that 
> makes using dictation less fun than before. When you dictate a text (no 
> matter which app you are using) and double tap to stop dictation, VoiceOver 
> is very loud, I guess as loud as Siri. It's still very loud when you close 
> the app. So I start Siri, end it quickly, and VoiceOver is finally speaking 
> with standard loudness again. Is anyone facing the same issue? I re-started 
> the phone, but this didn't work. This loudness issue is something I only 
> recognized after the update to 7.1. Before, only the beep tones that ended 
> dictation and the repeated text were spoken loudly. Any idea how to fix 
> this?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Alexandra
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Re: Is Siri more intelligent now

[Alan Paganelli]

Somebody told me that they thought that Siri now does a better job in dictation 
mode.  I said, in what way?  They said getting more words correct such as slang 
words and some people tend to mumble even with their iPhone.  I usually swap 
text messages with my brother when he has his morning coffee in the hospital 
cafiteria.  We usually have around 10 to 15 minutes but I didn't notice any 
differences because Siri usually gets what I say correctly more times then not 
so if that's true then it only makes Siri better.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

> On Mar 12, 2014, at 9:23 AM, BBS  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy. I don't think there are new commands to ask Siri but there are new
> Australian and English voices for Siri. Not too crazy about the new
> Australian voices because they both sound robotic in both compact and HQ
> versions.
> 
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sandratomkins
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Is Siri more intelligent now
> 
> Hi,
> I haven't installed the latest update yet. I am waiting to see what happens
> with regard to the keyboard bug. But one of the things mentioned on various
> websites is that Siri has greater power in the new update. Has anyone
> noticed this? Has anyone tried new sorts of questions with Siri?
> 
> Thanks for any info,
> Sandy
> 
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Calculator App for iPad

[Alan Paganelli]

Hi All,

I'm looking for a calculator app for my iPad Air.  I'd like it to be as simple 
as that found on the iPhone 5s.  Why they didn't think you would need one on 
iPad is beyond me.

Is there such an animal?



Alan

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Re: Direct TV app

[Hope Paulos]

Makes a lot of sense! Thank you so much for the information. If I have anymore 
questions I will certainly right back!

Hope Paulos

> On Mar 13, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Holly Anderson  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I use the app for browsing the guide, and recording shows with my DVr.  I 
> also use it to browse my playlist on my DVR.  Those things all work.  I don't 
> use it to watch any of the streaming content, so I can't speak to how well 
> that works.  Sometiems its necessary to turn off voiceover tap the screen 
> then turn it back on.  When you first run it, the app may look inaccessible, 
> there's a button in the left hand corn that is unlabeled that will open a 
> menu.  Then your choices are on the screen.  Hope this makes some sense.
> Holly
>> On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:56 AM, Hope Paulos  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all. I am considering switching to direct TV. Can someone who uses 
>> this satellite provider tell me if the application is accessible on the 
>> iPhone?
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Hope Paulos
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Re: issue with notifications

[Kyle]

In fact, that's the first thing I tried.Yes I have tried that.

On 3/13/2014 11:53 AM, isaac wrote:

Have you tried clearing you're notifications.
On Mar 13, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Kyle  wrote:


hi guys,

I've noticed for a while now that when I get notifications, the ones I received 
before are read again also. That first notification reads fine, but when I get 
additional ones, voiceover speaks the notifications in a long string. This is 
happening while my phone is locked. Is there anything I can do to just have 
voiceover to speak only the most recent notifications instead of just adding it 
and reading them all over again?

Any help would be appreciated.

Kyle

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RE: upgrading from 5 to 5c

[Alex Stone]

Oh that's good!

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Kyle
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Subject: Re: upgrading from 5 to 5c

a slightly higher capacity than the 5. It has the same battery as the 5S.

KyleActually, the 5C has a battery with

On 3/13/2014 10:30 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> If you already have a 5, the only real difference with the 5c is the 
> plastic, it has the same internals as the 5, so there really is no 
> benefit to going from the 5 to the 5c.
> Original message:
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>> I’m just about to get a 5c for work, what do I need to know apart 
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Re: issue with notifications

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Have you tried clearing you're notifications.
On Mar 13, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Kyle  wrote:

> hi guys,
> 
> I've noticed for a while now that when I get notifications, the ones I 
> received before are read again also. That first notification reads fine, but 
> when I get additional ones, voiceover speaks the notifications in a long 
> string. This is happening while my phone is locked. Is there anything I can 
> do to just have voiceover to speak only the most recent notifications instead 
> of just adding it and reading them all over again?
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Kyle
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Re: photos

[isaac]

To delete photos first open the photos app then choose camera role then choose 
the photo you want to delete then choose delete.
On Mar 13, 2014, at 10:11 AM, rubyalphonse  wrote:

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> How to delete photos in I Phone 5? Any help would be appreciated. Regards Ruby
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Re: messages

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You can back them up to iClooud by going to settings  iCloud storage and backup 
 and then backup now to back them up.
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> Hi all,
> Is there a way to save messages in this I Phone 5? There are important 
> messages I'd like save, nokia mobiles and all other mobiles has that option, 
> I was wondering why I Phones don't have. Another question is: I want someone 
> to help me in putting my destination address on blind square, please any help 
> will be appreciated. Thank you in advance Ruby
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Re: Direct TV app

[Holly Anderson]

Hi, I use the app for browsing the guide, and recording shows with my DVr.  I 
also use it to browse my playlist on my DVR.  Those things all work.  I don't 
use it to watch any of the streaming content, so I can't speak to how well that 
works.  Sometiems its necessary to turn off voiceover tap the screen then turn 
it back on.  When you first run it, the app may look inaccessible, there's a 
button in the left hand corn that is unlabeled that will open a menu.  Then 
your choices are on the screen.  Hope this makes some sense.
Holly
On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:56 AM, Hope Paulos  wrote:

> Hello all. I am considering switching to direct TV. Can someone who uses this 
> satellite provider tell me if the application is accessible on the iPhone?
> Thanks!
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Re: Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1

[Richard Turner]

Getting to the app switcher is the same for the iPod Touch as for the iPhone.
Double-tap the home button and use the three finger swipe up to close the aps 
out of the app switcher.
HTH,
Richard


"There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
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> On Mar 13, 2014, at 7:51 AM, "rubyalphonse"  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> Is there a way to open APP Switcher in IPod touch? In can double time press
> home button on my I Phone 5 but I don't know to to get to APP Switcher to
> close my applications after I've done with them. Please can you tell me? I
> am much obliged to you. Regards Ruby
> 
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> Of Richard Turner
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> It is a double-tap of the home button.
> Unless you have an iPad where you can swipe up from the bottom of the screen
> with four fingers.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
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> Of simon
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 6:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1
> 
> where is the ap switcher
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:19 PM
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> Subject: Re: Trouble opening the app switcher under 7.1
> 
>> Thanks, Kimmer, for posting this.  I assumed hopefully erroneously that 
>> the download was corrupted when I upgraded my wife's fifth generation 
>> ipod.  Don't have this problem with my other IOS devices.
>> 
>> Don Roberts
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/11/2014 12:20 PM, Kimber Gardner wrote:
>>> Since upgrading to 7.1, a double click of the home button no longer
>>> opens the app switcher on my 4s. Can others confirm this behavior?
>>> 
>>> Kimber
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