Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

[Christopher Chaltain]

Microsoft does help make the internet more accessible and safer, but 
this issue is bigger than Microsoft. Mozilla didn't write the Wevvisum 
plug in for Firefox, that was done by someone other than the browser 
developer. IE does allow for plugins to be developed.


Solving image captchas is just a stop gap solution since captcha 
technology will keep changing. IMHO, this has to be solved through a 
combination of technology and advocacy.


If it's solved at the browser level then you're leaving out the other 
browsers, such as Chrome, Safari and so on.


If it's solved on a web site by web site basis then there's no reason 
for Microsoft's competitors, like Google, Apple, Yahoo! and so on to 
adopt whatever Microsoft comes up with.


Microsoft can't dictate what happens on the web or on everyone's desktop 
like they could 20 years ago, and although this has some down sides, it 
also has some advantages, such as choice and innovation.


On 08/04/2014 07:11 AM, Rose Combs wrote:

For heaven sakes, Microsoft is Microsoft, we all have to use it to some
extent, especially if we are working.  They should be able to help make
the web accessible including security stuff.  Hackers who to malicious
code should have their keyboards zap them!

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Flor Lynch
*Sent:* Sunday, August 03, 2014 6:06 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

Sorry,  but since Microsoft is often a target, in such case I wouldn't
'bank' on it not being broken or hacked into by spammers.

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*From:*Rose Combs 

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

*Sent:*Sunday, August 03, 2014 11:53 PM

*Subject:*RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

Well Then Microsoft should make something similar that accomplishes
the same thing in my humble opinion.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Flor Lynch
*Sent:* Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:19 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

As for WebVisum the CAPTCHA-solving plugin that work with firefox,
they can't get it working with internet Explorer because they don't
have access to the Microsoft coding for IE and it would be too
expensive for them to get it. that was the story there, and i think
it still is. SomeCAPTCHA's are harder to resolve, because they are
dynamic (i.e. changing within a short time), than others are.

- Original Message -

*From:*Rose Combs 

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

*Sent:*Sunday, August 03, 2014 1:31 PM

*Subject:*RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

They need to make security accessible with alternatives that
work for everyone, not just those with eyes to see it with.  I
thought I had an account, but it does not work and I suppose
maybe I could use the one my husband had, might work if only I
knew the password for it but someone night get suspicious since
he is no longer on my bank account.  Kind of difficult for him
to use his account since he passed in May.  Good thing I guess
since he can't spend on more junk.

I will always maintain that if a CAPTCHA is of necessity then
there needs to be a solid reasonable way for someone who can't
read it to be able to use an alternative that isn't difficult to
use.  I don't care what browser is used, it should have an
alternative.

There are lots of elderly persons out there on the internet that
can't see enough to read those things, what do they do whether
they use magnification software, screen readers or large
monitors.  Isn't this what accessibility is all about, access
for everyone?

Don't get me started, I have one very difficult time getting
Google's audible to work, it was so fuzzy it took weeks before I
finally got a code I could type in fast enough not to generate
another one and it was more dumb luck than skill that finally
got me in.  My late husband had trouble reading it also and give
up on it long before I did.  They left me no way to communicate
the difficulty.  Great search engine, no customer support that I
know of, no way to let them know one can't understand the
audible they provide.  I mostly use it for this account and my
searches, have no real interest in trying other features that
may make me encounter that process again.

I should not have to have a specific browser, one I don't
personally trust all that 

RE: downloading and installing an app

[Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)]

Thanks, I will give it a try, glad it is not just me.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: 04 August 2014 15:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: downloading and installing an app

I've changed the subject line, since you've left the BBC Radio 3 topic.

This is something like my experience occasionally. When you double-click on a 
item to download it, your iPhone will say, "connecting..." Then it may or may 
not connect to the download. if it doesn't after a while, close out and restart 
your phone. then reopen the App Store, and double-tap on your search to try to 
resume. You might then get a message, "iPhone was unable to connect," or 
something similar, so go down to OK and double-tap OK. now you will be prompted 
for your password the next time you attempt to download. This is iTunes kicking 
in. Type your password. the download should begin and the install complete.
- Original Message --Q---
From: "Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 3:16 PM
Subject: RE: IPhone 5s And Radio


You have to click on the share tab at the bottom of the screen?
I have been clicking on the search tab, this may be where I am going wrong when 
I am trying to install Google Maps?
I type in Google Maps and one of the options is Google Maps for IPhone.
When I double click this, I don't seem to be able to get any further.
When I swipe around, there doesn't appear to be a free or any other button on 
the search results screen.


-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 30 July 2014 12:38
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone 5s And Radio

I suppose it's subjective, but I would think most people would agree that using 
the App Store on your iPhone would be the easiest way to go.
Bring up the App Store app on your iPhone, double tap the share tab at the 
bottom of the screen, double tap in the search field and type your search 
string, which would probably be iPlayer in this case. You can then select from 
the list of suggestions below the edit field or double tap the search button at 
the right of the keyboard to kick off a complete search.

When the information on the iPlayer app comes up, double tap on the free button 
and then on the install button. You'll be prompted for your Apple ID password. 
After it's installed, you can double tap the open button or look for it in your 
last home page.

I hope this helps. I also hope it's accurate. I'm in a hurry, so I'm doing this 
from memory.

On 07/30/2014 05:48 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) wrote:
> Thanks, that sounds really good.
>
> Excuse me but what is the easiest way to go to app store, this is my
> first attempt at this, go to app store on the phone or connect the
> phone to my PC and use ITunes?
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Harry Bell
> *Sent:* 30 July 2014 08:20
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: IPhone 5s And Radio
>
> Go to App Store and download free iPlayer Radio made by BBC
>
>
> On 30 Jul 2014, at 07:58, "Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)"
> mailto:steven.hi...@nhs.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> I would like to be able to listen to BBC radio stations over the
> internet on my phone, it is really just the BBC ones, does anyone
> know how I would do this please?
>
> Do I need to go to the BBC wek site on the phone and download and
> install an app or something similar?
>
> Many thanks in anticipation,
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RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Rose and Betty,

 

Jonathan offered to call you and to take your information over the phone. In
order to make this as easy as possible, here is a link which takes you
directly to the Contact form on Jonathan's website. All you have to enter is
your name, your email and the nature of your inquiry. Since Jonathan is
already expecting your message, I'm sure all you have to do is say that you
are contacting him regarding his book and could he please call you at
whatever your number is so you can give him your information. I guess if you
write your mailing address in the message that is one piece of information
you don't have to give him over the phone. Here is the link, make sure you
let him know what time zone you are in and what a good time is for him to
call, Jonathan is very accommodating and I'm sure he will do his best to do
this for you.

 

http://mosen.org/index.php/contact-jonathan

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

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Re: a rather technical question

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I would suggest restoring the phone from your iCloud backup. That way, you'll 
get all your app settings.

Best,
Anna



On Aug 4, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:

> I've got an iPhone 5s that has an iCloud backup from a 4s, which has been 
> backed up on a computer that I no longer have access to. I want to erase and 
> set it up as a new phone so I can back it up and sync it on the computer I 
> now have. However, I want to keep app data from shazam and a few other apps 
> if at all possible. Is there a way to do this? Thanks
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a rather technical question

[Joe Quinn]

I’ve got an iPhone 5s that has an iCloud backup from a 4s, which has been 
backed up on a computer that I no longer have access to. I want to erase and 
set it up as a new phone so I can back it up and sync it on the computer I now 
have. However, I want to keep app data from shazam and a few other apps if at 
all possible. Is there a way to do this? Thanks

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Re: Refreshable Braille Displays

[Marianne Denning]

There are several and the one you choose is based on many subjective
factors.  You might consider an 18 cell display rather than 32 or
higher if you plan to use it, primarily, with your IPhone.  The more
cells the larger the display.  I have a Focus 40 and really like it
but I use it with my computer most of the time.

On 8/4/14, SSEric  wrote:
> I am now seriously curious about displays. I have a BP12 just acquired, but
> find it is too small to be useful. I am thinking a 24 or 32-cell display
> would be what I would want. I definitely would not read books, but
> messages,
> mail, RSS and the like on my I-devices.
>
> Not knowing much more than some familiarity with devices when I hear them
> talked about, I really could use a collection and comparison of various
> displays. Does anyone know of such a resource? Any other suggestions how I
> might learn of the existence of and information on devices of potential
> interest would be most appreciated. Please feel free to write directly so
> we
> don't take over the list.
>
> All thanks in advance!
>
> Eric
> sseri...@gmail.com
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Re: Seeking Tiny Bluetooth Keyboard Recommendation

[Jennie Facer]

I don't know the actual model of this keyboard, but I do know it is a 66-key 
keyboard. I can't tell you whether it can be used for just one hand.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 4, 2014, at 1:11 PM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jennie and All Who Replied to my question.  
> 
> Apparently, there are several models of the RII keyboard.  
> 
> Can anyone tell me the actual model number of the unit?  
> 
> Also, is this the same keyboard that can be used with just one hand?  
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jennie Facer
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 10:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeking Tiny Bluetooth Keyboard Recommendation
> 
> I have this keyboard already mentioned. You can also buy it from:
> www.speeddots.com
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:32 PM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Does anyone know of a tiny Bluetooth keyboard that looks similar to 
>> the old Quirty keyboards found on the original Smart phones and are 
>> what are now called feature phones?
>> 
>> I just measured the Quirty keyboards on both my Samsung Blackjack 2 
>> and my beloved Samsung Epix, running Windows Mobile 6.x, and they are 
>> approximately
>> 2 inches across (horizontal axis) and 1 inch high (vertical axis).
>> 
>> I just want a device that will fit comfortably in my shirt breast 
>> pocket with tiny keys similar to what I have described above.
>> 
>> Any and all suggestions and/or links greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini

[Devin]

Around $500
On 8/4/2014 1:48 PM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

What are the going rate for a Mini?

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?


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*From:* Kliphton Senior 
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Sent:* Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:59 PM
*Subject:* Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini

They are the least expensive option, that is until you have to buy
a monitor, keyboard, and if you prefer track pad.  Although any
macmini bought after 2012 and beyond, you don't have to connect a
monitor.

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On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:

One thing I forgot to say is that the Mini is the least expensive
Mac you can find, at least new. Minis start at $600, whereas the
cheapest Macbook starts at $900, and iMacs are $1099, I think.
That said, if it's your primary computer, I can't recommend a
Macbook highly enough. They are so small and light that they're
easy to take anywhere, and nothing beats having your entire
computer with you when you need it.
On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Kristeen Hughes mailto:khwi...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Alex said everything I would have said. The USB drives do work
well with the mini, if one needs such. I've used one a time or
two. I rarely have a need for a drive anymore, however.

Kristeen

On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:


I'm not Christine, but I have a Mini.

1. Yes, all Macs have VoiceOer built in, so long as they have
OS 10.4 or later. In other words, any Mac you buy nowadays, and
back to 2005 I believe, will have it.
2. No, not anymore. They used to have disk drives, but have not
for a few years now, just like the Macbook and iMac lines. Disk
drives are going away, and I find that I only rarely miss
having one, not even often enough to make me pick up a USB disk
drive.
3. No, the Mini is a small computer tower. It has no screen,
keyboard, or mouse, though it does have a small internal
speaker. It is meant to be connected to all necessary
peripherals. If you're after an all-in-one solution, a Macbook
might be better for you. The iMac is also an option; it has the
tower and screen in one unit (though it is not a touch screen).
No Mac currently offers a touch screen, only iOS devices do
that. For the blind especially, though, a trackpad is just as
good, since it lets you feel around the screen and perform
familiar VO gestures to navigate and perform other actions.
On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Donna mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:


Hi Kristeen

I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of
questions for you. I have always been a Windows user, so
pardon my ignorance.

1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover?
2. Does it have a CD drive?
3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Donna

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Re: help with e-mail list

[Paul Henrichsen]

If it is a gmail group as mac visionaries is, you should just get all messages.
 Of course, they will all appear in your inbox unless you have set up a folder 
called a label and a filter which tells gmail to move all messages from the mac 
visionaries list to a particular folder.
You do this from the gmail web site.
That's the way it works in my account.
Each of my lists such as this one go into a particular folder.
I have to tap on that folder on my iphone so it will then go get the messages.

On Aug 2, 2014, at 1:22 PM, denise avant 
mailto:denise.av...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It is a gmail. But where exactly do I find it. I looked around to find the 
setting but did not find it.

On Aug 2, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Kliphton Senior 
mailto:m.kliph...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Actually that's not right.  YOu have to go on the google groups website, and 
tell it you want all messages.  Unless of course it's not a gmail address, then 
it will happen automatically


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On Aug 2, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Alex Hall 
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:

That will happen automatically. Just send a test message and ask someone to 
reply so you can be sure delivery is working as expected.
On Aug 2, 2014, at 12:47 PM, denise avant 
mailto:denise.av...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
I am sorry for posting to this list, but maybe someone might know the answer to 
this question. I have been accepted to the MacVisssionaries list. How do I get 
the messages by e-mail? Thanks.

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Re: Control key and downloading 321conference line software with the iPad

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Are there any instructions on how to use the app? What goes in the server and 
room ID fields?
I did find a talk button under the chat tab, but the only time one could even 
experiment with the app is when a conference is going on.

On Aug 2, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Michelle Bernstein  
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> Thank you, Alan, very much for the information.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2014, at 11:32 AM, "Alan Lemly"  wrote:
>> 
>> Michelle, the app to participate in AccessibleWorld web-based conferences
>> using an iDevice is called tcConference. You can read the iTunes Store
>> description here:
>> 
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tcconference/id442789079?mt=8
>> 
>> I've been less than satisfied with its performance on my iPhone 5 especially
>> with respect to trying to talk with it. I don't think I ever worked out its
>> comparable action to using the control key on the web-based utility.
>> 
>> Maybe you'll have better luck with the iPad and the app but I suspect as
>> moderator, you're going to want to use a computer when attending your
>> Fiction Old and New meetings.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Michelle Bernstein
>> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 10:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Control key and downloading 321conference line software with the
>> iPad
>> 
>> I am one of the facilitators of a monthly online book group called fiction
>> old and new on the accessible world website, www.accessibleworld.org.I
>> would like to be able to connect to the group's online book group
>> discussions using the my iPad.  The accessible world site using
>> 321conference software.  I will have to check if there is an app for this
>> conference line software since when I tried to download this software to my
>> iPad it asked me if I wanted to download it to my bard mobile which was
>> interesting.  Anyone use their iPad to participate in the accessible world
>> online book groups and if so, how did you download the conference line
>> software and where is the equivalent of the control key? Thank you.
>> Michelle
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Best books to read to learn VoiceOver gestures for iPad

[Flor Lynch]

She covers VoiceOver very well indeed. I'm reading that part at the
moment. It becomes obvious that she's a longtime VO user. there is also 
an appendix with all the VO gestures, commands, etc.


- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Henrichsen" 

To: "Iphone Iphone UsersGroup" 
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Best books to read to learn VoiceOver gestures for iPad


I was wondering about Shelluy's book, but she covers everything; not
just voiceover; so not sure how much voiceover she covers.

On Aug 1, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:


iOS Access For All: Your Comprehensive Guide to Accessibility for
iPad,
iPhone, and iPod Touch, by Shelly Brisbin, is another good book.

www.iosaccessbooks.com

She is a visually-impaired iPhone and iPad user, who uses VoiceOver
extensively. Covers VoiceOver speech and braille. The book is
available
in epub and pdf, at $20. And it is comprehensive: with appendices
detailing the VO gestures. Also covers other disabilities and their
featured requirements.

- Original Message - From: "Michelle Bernstein"

To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 5:34 PM
Subject: Best books to read to learn VoiceOver gestures for iPad


Just purchased an iPad, never used an apple product before.  What
other
books can I read to learn how to use this device, especially the
VoiceOver gestures, other than the book getting started with the
iPhone
from the national Braille press. Thank you. Michelle

Sent from my iPad

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Re: Best books to read to learn VoiceOver gestures for iPad

[Paul Henrichsen]

I was wondering about Shelluy's book, but she covers everything; not just 
voiceover; so not sure how much voiceover she covers.

On Aug 1, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:

> iOS Access For All: Your Comprehensive Guide to Accessibility for iPad,
> iPhone, and iPod Touch, by Shelly Brisbin, is another good book.
> 
> www.iosaccessbooks.com
> 
> She is a visually-impaired iPhone and iPad user, who uses VoiceOver
> extensively. Covers VoiceOver speech and braille. The book is available
> in epub and pdf, at $20. And it is comprehensive: with appendices
> detailing the VO gestures. Also covers other disabilities and their featured 
> requirements.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Michelle Bernstein" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 5:34 PM
> Subject: Best books to read to learn VoiceOver gestures for iPad
> 
> 
> Just purchased an iPad, never used an apple product before.  What other
> books can I read to learn how to use this device, especially the
> VoiceOver gestures, other than the book getting started with the iPhone
> from the national Braille press. Thank you. Michelle
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Best books to read to learn VoiceOver gestures for iPad

[Paul Henrichsen]

There is also the book by Larry Lewis, but haven't read that one; so can't 
comment on how good it is.

On Aug 1, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:rich...@turner42.com>> wrote:

Since the gestures are pretty much the same for iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad, 
the book from National Braille Press will do just fine:
She also produced a short book that just focuses on the gestures which I think 
is $6.00 from National Braille Press also.
HTH,
Richard



"Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." - Victor Hugo


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Michelle Bernstein 
mailto:michellebbbernst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Just purchased an iPad, never used an apple product before.  What other books 
can I read to learn how to use this device, especially the VoiceOver gestures, 
other than the book getting started with the iPhone from the national Braille 
press. Thank you. Michelle

Sent from my iPad

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Re: Best books to read to learn VoiceOver gestures for iPad

[Paul Henrichsen]

Yes; but her book is an iphone book and not an ipad book.

On Aug 1, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:

> Anna Dresner's book is the most authoritative book on the subject.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Michelle Bernstein 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Just purchased an iPad, never used an apple product before.  What other 
>> books can I read to learn how to use this device, especially the VoiceOver 
>> gestures, other than the book getting started with the iPhone from the 
>> national Braille press. Thank you. Michelle
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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RE: Seeking Tiny Bluetooth Keyboard Recommendation

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jennie and All Who Replied to my question.  

Apparently, there are several models of the RII keyboard.  

Can anyone tell me the actual model number of the unit?  

Also, is this the same keyboard that can be used with just one hand?  

Thank you,

Mark


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Subject: Re: Seeking Tiny Bluetooth Keyboard Recommendation

I have this keyboard already mentioned. You can also buy it from:
www.speeddots.com

Jenn

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:32 PM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Does anyone know of a tiny Bluetooth keyboard that looks similar to 
> the old Quirty keyboards found on the original Smart phones and are 
> what are now called feature phones?
> 
> I just measured the Quirty keyboards on both my Samsung Blackjack 2 
> and my beloved Samsung Epix, running Windows Mobile 6.x, and they are 
> approximately
> 2 inches across (horizontal axis) and 1 inch high (vertical axis).
> 
> I just want a device that will fit comfortably in my shirt breast 
> pocket with tiny keys similar to what I have described above.
> 
> Any and all suggestions and/or links greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
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Re: Refreshable Braille Displays

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Try out http://www.braillenoteusers.info/media where among the 
podcasts, there are several on how to connect, and how an Ipod/IPhone 
interacts with in this case, the BrailleNote family of products. Good luck!


El 04/08/2014 02:05 p.m., Gmail escribió:

I know that AppleVis has quite a few reviews on Braille displays. You might try 
there. Also, you might want to keep an eye on the Boum Vario Ultra 20, if you 
want a smallish display with basic notetaking capabilities.


Thanks,
Ari


On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Mich  wrote:

Hi I to would also like to know this info. I to have herd diffrent braille 
displayes talked about and am wondering about what ones would be best to use 
with my Eye Divice. I would also like to know from those who might be on this 
list from Ontario weather under the assistive divices program if a braille 
display would be covered as a high tec or low tec divice since I whent to the 
adp sight and it said it covers pc's but it didn't go firther then that. from 
Mich from new Liskeard Ontario Canada.
- Original Message - From: "SSEric"
To:
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 12:51 PM
Subject: Refreshable Braille Displays


I am now seriously curious about displays. I have a BP12 just acquired, but
find it is too small to be useful. I am thinking a 24 or 32-cell display
would be what I would want. I definitely would not read books, but messages,
mail, RSS and the like on my I-devices.

Not knowing much more than some familiarity with devices when I hear them
talked about, I really could use a collection and comparison of various
displays. Does anyone know of such a resource? Any other suggestions how I
might learn of the existence of and information on devices of potential
interest would be most appreciated. Please feel free to write directly so we
don't take over the list.

All thanks in advance!

Eric
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Re: Refreshable Braille Displays

[Gmail]

I know that AppleVis has quite a few reviews on Braille displays. You might try 
there. Also, you might want to keep an eye on the Boum Vario Ultra 20, if you 
want a smallish display with basic notetaking capabilities.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Mich  wrote:
> 
> Hi I to would also like to know this info. I to have herd diffrent braille 
> displayes talked about and am wondering about what ones would be best to use 
> with my Eye Divice. I would also like to know from those who might be on this 
> list from Ontario weather under the assistive divices program if a braille 
> display would be covered as a high tec or low tec divice since I whent to the 
> adp sight and it said it covers pc's but it didn't go firther then that. from 
> Mich from new Liskeard Ontario Canada.
> - Original Message - From: "SSEric" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 12:51 PM
> Subject: Refreshable Braille Displays
> 
> 
> I am now seriously curious about displays. I have a BP12 just acquired, but
> find it is too small to be useful. I am thinking a 24 or 32-cell display
> would be what I would want. I definitely would not read books, but messages,
> mail, RSS and the like on my I-devices.
> 
> Not knowing much more than some familiarity with devices when I hear them
> talked about, I really could use a collection and comparison of various
> displays. Does anyone know of such a resource? Any other suggestions how I
> might learn of the existence of and information on devices of potential
> interest would be most appreciated. Please feel free to write directly so we
> don't take over the list.
> 
> All thanks in advance!
> 
> Eric
> sseri...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: NFL Mobile

[Wayne Merritt]

Exactly which football radio app are you talking about? There are
several in the app store with the words "football radio" in the name;
please clarify.

Best,
Wayne

On 8/4/14, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:
> are you familiar with the football radio app?  It will give you a schedule
> and stations to listen to games.
> 
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>   - Original Message -
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>   Subject: NFL Mobile
>
>
>   Has anybody figured out where to enter audiopass subscription information
> this year on the NFL mobile app. All I find in settings is the option to
> purchase and if I choose listen that is also where it takes me. It has to be
> hiding somewhere here in plain sight but I can't find it.
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Re: How to Navigate the Mail app on an iPad with a Bluetooth Keyboard

[Paul Henrichsen]

Hi, Tom. Just took a look at this. Unfortunately, pressing escape will close 
the mail app.
One thing you could do is to use the arrow keys. Press the right and left arrow 
to turn quick nav on or off. It's a toggle. You can then use right and left 
arrows to move around the screen. Using left arrow will eventually get you to 
the back button. Pressing up and down arrow together will click the back 
button. You can use control up or down arrow to quickly move to the top or 
bottom of the screen.
Not sure if she can do that. So, control up would quickly get you to the back 
button where you could then press up and down arrow simultaneously to click the 
back button.
Hope this helps.

On Jul 31, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Eileen Misrahi 
mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Tom,

This may be another solution for your student. There's an app called Voice 
Brief. Although it has some gestures in it, the app will read the first 5 or 10 
items for whatever items are set up in the app such as weather, tweets, mail, 
etc. With mail, it will read the first couple of lines before one may want to 
open it. The app is compatible for the iPhone, iPad, and iPod. I also poked 
around accessibility under General in settings to see if there was a method to 
insert a sticky key function for the blue tooth keyboard like on the Macs in 
system preferences, but I didn't see anything promising.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Alex Hall 
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Escape will act as your back button, at least it should. Yes, the VO keystrokes 
can be difficult, and your student sounds like one for whom I'd recommend a 
RiVO (www.mobience.com). It is a mini keyboard, in a 
way, but it has single keys for read all, back, flick left/right, rotor 
commands, and so on. You can enter text with it, though it is difficult to get 
used to. The keys are small, as I said, and your student may run into problems 
with that, but then again maybe not. Still, though it is expensive, it might be 
worth a try.
On Jul 31, 2014, at 8:36 PM, Tom Lange 
mailto:lang...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all, I have a somewhat perplexing situation that I ran into yesterday and 
will probably run into it again soon, hence my questions. I was working with an 
elderly  student who was trying to use the mail app on her iPad with a Logitech 
bluetooth keyboard, as she has trouble performing typical Voiceover gestures 
including flicking, swiping, et cetera; because of tremors her hands just 
aren't steady enough to perform many gestures reliably. .  The two-finger swipe 
down to start continuous reading of a message just confounded her, and from 
what I could tell, one practically had to be a contortionist to execute the 
VO+B command on the keyboard. To further complicate things, we couldn't find a 
Back button to take us back to the  inbox.  I'm looking for a simple and 
effective keyboard-based method for opening a message, reading it and returning 
to the inbox, then moving to the next message and repeating that process all 
over again.  The student is using an iPad Air with the Logitech keyboard, and I 
was using an iPad Mini with a Logitech keyboard that fits the Mini. Any ideas 
from you Ipad users out there? Thanks in advance.

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Re: Trig tables?

[RobH.]

Thanks, must try that, though it's looking like I need a function not noted. 
that is,  find angle for given ratio.

Thanks, RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Woody Anna Dresner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: Trig tables?


Hi,

You can use the built-in calculator for this. Be sure the orientation lock 
is off, and put your phone in landscape mode with the calculator open to 
show the scientific functions. Then enter the value followed by the trig 
function. For instance, I typed 45, then the Tangent button, and the result 
was 1, as it should be.

HTH,
Anna



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> Can anyone recommend an easy accessible app for looking up trig tables or
> values.  I'd prefer not to have the whole table to scroll through, I just
> want to specify what I want and have that answer easy to find.
>
> I'll have to start re-programming my online calculator if I can't find 
> one.
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Re: How to Navigate the Mail app on an iPad with a Bluetooth Keyboard

[Paul Henrichsen]

Hi, Tom. I think that VO B is the only way to hit that back button on a 
bluetooth keyboard.
What about having her hold down VO with her left two fingers then move her 
right finger one key to the left of the N key to hit the B key?

On Jul 31, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:

> Hi all, I have a somewhat perplexing situation that I ran into yesterday and 
> will probably run into it again soon, hence my questions. I was working with 
> an elderly  student who was trying to use the mail app on her iPad with a 
> Logitech bluetooth keyboard, as she has trouble performing typical Voiceover 
> gestures including flicking, swiping, et cetera; because of tremors her hands 
> just aren't steady enough to perform many gestures reliably. .  The 
> two-finger swipe down to start continuous reading of a message just 
> confounded her, and from what I could tell, one practically had to be a 
> contortionist to execute the VO+B command on the keyboard. To further 
> complicate things, we couldn't find a Back button to take us back to the  
> inbox.  I'm looking for a simple and effective keyboard-based method for 
> opening a message, reading it and returning to the inbox, then moving to the 
> next message and repeating that process all over again.  The student is using 
> an iPad Air with the Logitech keyboard, and I was using an iPad Mini with a 
> Logitech keyboard that fits the Mini. Any ideas from you Ipad users out 
> there? Thanks in advance.   
> 
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Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini

[Alex Hall]

$600 to start, then it gets more expensive from there depending on your ram, 
processor, and hard drive choices. If you have an iOS device, download the free 
Apple Store app, I find it the easiest way to browse the different Macs and see 
their specs. You can do the same on the website, of course, but the app feels 
simpler and less cluttered to me.
On Aug 4, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:

> What are the going rate for a Mini?
> 
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> Subject: Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini
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> keyboard, and if you prefer track pad.  Although any macmini bought after 
> 2012 and beyond, you don't have to connect a monitor.
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>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
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>> One thing I forgot to say is that the Mini is the least expensive Mac you 
>> can find, at least new. Minis start at $600, whereas the cheapest Macbook 
>> starts at $900, and iMacs are $1099, I think. That said, if it's your 
>> primary computer, I can't recommend a Macbook highly enough. They are so 
>> small and light that they're easy to take anywhere, and nothing beats having 
>> your entire computer with you when you need it.
>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>> 
>>> Alex said everything I would have said. The USB drives do work well with 
>>> the mini, if one needs such. I've used one a time or two. I rarely have a 
>>> need for a drive anymore, however.
>>> 
>>> Kristeen
>>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 I'm not Christine, but I have a Mini.
 
 1. Yes, all Macs have VoiceOer built in, so long as they have OS 10.4 or 
 later. In other words, any Mac you buy nowadays, and back to 2005 I 
 believe, will have it.
 2. No, not anymore. They used to have disk drives, but have not for a few 
 years now, just like the Macbook and iMac lines. Disk drives are going 
 away, and I find that I only rarely miss having one, not even often enough 
 to make me pick up a USB disk drive.
 3. No, the Mini is a small computer tower. It has no screen, keyboard, or 
 mouse, though it does have a small internal speaker. It is meant to be 
 connected to all necessary peripherals. If you're after an all-in-one 
 solution, a Macbook might be better for you. The iMac is also an option; 
 it has the tower and screen in one unit (though it is not a touch screen). 
 No Mac currently offers a touch screen, only iOS devices do that. For the 
 blind especially, though, a trackpad is just as good, since it lets you 
 feel around the screen and perform familiar VO gestures to navigate and 
 perform other actions.
 On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Donna  wrote:
 
> Hi Kristeen
> 
> I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions for 
> you. I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance. 
> 
> 1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover?
> 2. Does it have a CD drive? 
> 3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen?
> 
> Thanks for answering my questions. 
> 
> Donna
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Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini

[Robert Doc Wright]

What are the going rate for a Mini?

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start?

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:59 PM
  Subject: Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini


  They are the least expensive option, that is until you have to buy a monitor, 
keyboard, and if you prefer track pad.  Although any macmini bought after 2012 
and beyond, you don't have to connect a monitor.


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On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:


One thing I forgot to say is that the Mini is the least expensive Mac you 
can find, at least new. Minis start at $600, whereas the cheapest Macbook 
starts at $900, and iMacs are $1099, I think. That said, if it's your primary 
computer, I can't recommend a Macbook highly enough. They are so small and 
light that they're easy to take anywhere, and nothing beats having your entire 
computer with you when you need it.

On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:


  Alex said everything I would have said. The USB drives do work well with 
the mini, if one needs such. I've used one a time or two. I rarely have a need 
for a drive anymore, however.


  Kristeen


  On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:


I'm not Christine, but I have a Mini.


1. Yes, all Macs have VoiceOer built in, so long as they have OS 10.4 
or later. In other words, any Mac you buy nowadays, and back to 2005 I believe, 
will have it.
2. No, not anymore. They used to have disk drives, but have not for a 
few years now, just like the Macbook and iMac lines. Disk drives are going 
away, and I find that I only rarely miss having one, not even often enough to 
make me pick up a USB disk drive.
3. No, the Mini is a small computer tower. It has no screen, keyboard, 
or mouse, though it does have a small internal speaker. It is meant to be 
connected to all necessary peripherals. If you're after an all-in-one solution, 
a Macbook might be better for you. The iMac is also an option; it has the tower 
and screen in one unit (though it is not a touch screen). No Mac currently 
offers a touch screen, only iOS devices do that. For the blind especially, 
though, a trackpad is just as good, since it lets you feel around the screen 
and perform familiar VO gestures to navigate and perform other actions.

On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Donna  wrote:


  Hi Kristeen

  I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions 
for you. I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance. 

  1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover?
  2. Does it have a CD drive? 
  3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen?

  Thanks for answering my questions. 

  Donna

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Re: NFL Mobile

[Robert Doc Wright]

are you familiar with the football radio app?  It will give you a schedule and 
stations to listen to games.

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
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  Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:39 PM
  Subject: NFL Mobile


  Has anybody figured out where to enter audiopass subscription information 
this year on the NFL mobile app. All I find in settings is the option to 
purchase and if I choose listen that is also where it takes me. It has to be 
hiding somewhere here in plain sight but I can't find it.


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Re: Fit Bit Scale

[Lois Butterfield]

Hi Linda,

I have the fitbit aria.  It works well but sometimes takes a few syncs to 
show up in my phone.  It does show on the site right away though.  I also 
have the Flex, and maybe that is what causes the delay sometimes.


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Subject: Fit Bit Scale

Has anyone purchased the scale from Fit Bit? Will your weight show in the
app on your phone or do you have to go online to see your current weight?

Thank you,

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Re: Seeking Tiny Bluetooth Keyboard Recommendation

[Jennie Facer]

I have this keyboard already mentioned. You can also buy it from:
www.speeddots.com

Jenn

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:32 PM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Does anyone know of a tiny Bluetooth keyboard that looks similar to the old
> Quirty keyboards found on the original Smart phones and are what are now
> called feature phones?  
> 
> I just measured the Quirty keyboards on both my Samsung Blackjack 2 and my
> beloved Samsung Epix, running Windows Mobile 6.x, and they are approximately
> 2 inches across (horizontal axis) and 1 inch high (vertical axis).
> 
> I just want a device that will fit comfortably in my shirt breast pocket
> with tiny keys similar to what I have described above.
> 
> Any and all suggestions and/or links greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark 
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Re: Refreshable Braille Displays

[Mich]

Hi I to would also like to know this info. I to have herd diffrent braille 
displayes talked about and am wondering about what ones would be best to use 
with my Eye Divice. I would also like to know from those who might be on 
this list from Ontario weather under the assistive divices program if a 
braille display would be covered as a high tec or low tec divice since I 
whent to the adp sight and it said it covers pc's but it didn't go firther 
then that. from Mich from new Liskeard Ontario Canada.
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 12:51 PM
Subject: Refreshable Braille Displays


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Not knowing much more than some familiarity with devices when I hear them
talked about, I really could use a collection and comparison of various
displays. Does anyone know of such a resource? Any other suggestions how I
might learn of the existence of and information on devices of potential
interest would be most appreciated. Please feel free to write directly so we
don't take over the list.

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Fit Bit Scale

[Lynda Ingraham]

Has anyone purchased the scale from Fit Bit? Will your weight show in the
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Thank you, 

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Refreshable Braille Displays

[SSEric]

I am now seriously curious about displays. I have a BP12 just acquired, but
find it is too small to be useful. I am thinking a 24 or 32-cell display
would be what I would want. I definitely would not read books, but messages,
mail, RSS and the like on my I-devices.

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Re: BBC Rdio Player

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hello,

I assume you mean the application iPlayer radio.

I do the following to advance the list of available radio stations:
Once I flick to the last visible station, I double-tap and hold which is 
voiceover standard gesture for pass-through.  Hold your finger on the screen 
until you've heard a sound and Voiceover says scroll down for more stations.  
Now, drag your finger up the screen and release and yo you will be able to 
flick through more stations.  Only two or three additional stations appear on 
the screen so you may have to repeat this sequence to find the one you want if 
it is at the bottom of the list.  This is how it works on my iphone.  On my 
ipad mini, the list of stations appears horizontally so I drag my finger 
horizontally not vertically to achieve the same result after double-tap and 
hold gesture.

Hope this helps.

Andrew
On 4 Aug 2014, at 07:42, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) 
 wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> When you move over the radio station buttons with the BBC Radio Player, it 
> says scroll to see more stations, does anyone know the jestjer to scroll 
> through the stations please?
> I have tried a two and three finger swipe but it doesn't seem to do anything.
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Re: Forwarding A Text Message

[Alan Paganelli]

I just have edit added in to the rotor.  When I want to send the copy of a text 
to somebody else I just use edit to copy and paste into a new message.

Regards,

Alan

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  Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 12:53 AM
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  Hi friends,

   

  Could someone remind me how to forward a text message that has been sent to 
me to someone else please?

   

  Many thanks in anticipation,

   


  


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Re: NFL Mobile

[Alan Paganelli]

Ok can anybody help me out here.  I've downloaded the NFL Mobile app.  When I 
try to enter in my team, nothing happens.  For some reason it thinks I want the 
Ravens and I can't figure out how to change that.  Can anybody help?

Regards,

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheryl Homiak 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 11:18 PM
  Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


  Yes, I believe that is the case.



-- 
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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears! 
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
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  On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:04 AM, Kliphton Senior  wrote:


That is only for Verizon customers right?





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
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Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: NFL Mobile



Has anybody figured out where to enter audiopass subscription information 
this year on the NFL mobile app. All I find in settings is the option to 
purchase and if I choose listen that is also where it takes me. It has to be 
hiding somewhere here in plain sight but I can't find it.



-- 

Cheryl



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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

thrown in the trash!

Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears!

And now, every day:

"This I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord

never ceases;

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Re: Trig tables?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

You can use the built-in calculator for this. Be sure the orientation lock is 
off, and put your phone in landscape mode with the calculator open to show the 
scientific functions. Then enter the value followed by the trig function. For 
instance, I typed 45, then the Tangent button, and the result was 1, as it 
should be.

HTH,
Anna



On Aug 4, 2014, at 5:10 AM, RobH.  wrote:

> Can anyone recommend an easy accessible app for looking up trig tables or 
> values.  I'd prefer not to have the whole table to scroll through, I just 
> want to specify what I want and have that answer easy to find.
> 
> I'll have to start re-programming my online calculator if I can't find one.
> 
> Thanks, RobH. 
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RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi,

 

Have you tried simply paying with your credit card? Its an option.

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

I tried once again, now giving up, I will figure it out, not wanting to send
a physical check to anyone.  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

I don't want to send money through the mail, and do not want to write a
check.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 6:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

So, hear's an idea, Rose. Since you are having so much difficulty getting
this done, why not ask if someone could order it for you and have it sent to
you and you send them the money?

 

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:55 AM

Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

I did all you suggested more than once.  It just did not work but in a few
days when I have time I will try once again.  I never truly intended to get
an account and now that I know it has a CAPTCHA it is definitely not in my
immediate future.  I will try the guest option one more time but not today.
Off to work.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 3:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

Hi Rose, very sorry to hear you're having problems setting up a Pay Pal
account. The good news though is that it's not necessary to have a Pay Pal
account to buy through Pay Pal. There is an option to enter your credit card
number, and a good number of people are purchasing that way. With this
method there is no captcha to complete or anything like that.

These steps should work on most sites that accept Pay Pal but I'll try and
offer a step-by-step for purchasing iOS 8 Without the Eye.

Here's how it should work.

Choose the "add to cart button" on the Mosen Consulting site. You'll then be
taken to a page verifying your purchase. Be sure to verify the quantity is
correct, particularly if you've tried unsuccessfully to purchase before.

Activate the button labelled "Make Payments with Pay Pal, it's fast, free
and secure".

You're then taken to Pay Pal's site.

Navigate past the log-in form for Pay Pal, since you don't have a Pay Pal
account his is irrelevant.

Then you'll find a button labelled "pay with a credit or debit card, or bill
me later".

Activate that button.

You're then taken to a standard credit/debit card form which is fully
accessible and has no captcha.

If you have trouble, and and you'd like me to help, please feel free to use
the contact form on the website, and we can organise a time for me to call
you and take your credit card number. Obviously that applies to anyone
having issues.

Hope that's of some help.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 3/08/2014, at 8:17 am, Rose Combs  wrote:

 

I guess unless I can get the guest  form to work I won't be able to get the
book then.  PayPal should be ashamed for putting up a CAPTCHA we can't
solve, no audible line.  They don't want my business then. 

 

At this time I don't have time to install another browser, figure out how to
use it etc.  I am up to my ears in work and other issues like finances to
waste time on a company that does not respect users enough of offer
alternatives. 

 

Too bad too because I read the book last year in one evening I had no
problems adjusting to IOS 7.  I know some will say it take only a minute,
but if I mess up my computer with software I don't particularly trust right
now I won't be a happy camper since I need my computer right now.  I wish
Mr. Mosen would offer an alternative, it isn't like buying the book will
break the bank for me, far from it, not rich but certainly not penniless
either.  Have worked 38 years in one job will start year 39 on Tuesday. 

 

I will try the guest form one more time, if not, I will do as I did for 5,
and 6, figure it out on my own or wait until a missing manual or even an
Apple book full of pictures is available, not so helpful but I have done it
before. 

 

 

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 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:41 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Su

RE: iMessage help please!

[Kliphton Senior]

Switch your roder to links, once you do that, flick down and the number will
be spoken, then you can double tap on it to call.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jose Lomeli
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Jose Lomeli
Subject: iMessage help please!

Hello; Listers, I need help! Somebody sent me an iMessage! In that message
their is a phone number it's shown as a link! How can I select the phone
number so I can save it? I tried to double tap and no go! I also tried
double tap and hold and no luck! Can anybody help me with this issue? Thanks
in advance!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone

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iMessage help please!

[Jose Lomeli]

Hello; Listers, I need help! Somebody sent me an iMessage! In that message 
their is a phone number it's shown as a link! How can I select the phone number 
so I can save it? I tried to double tap and no go! I also tried double tap and 
hold and no luck! Can anybody help me with this issue? Thanks in advance!

Jose Lomeli
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Re: NFL Mobile

[Cheryl Homiak]

Well, I guess this is progress but I'm not happy yet! I re-downloaded the app 
and was finally able to sign in but now it has me down for the Ravens as my 
favorite team and when I try to change it there are no choices: it just says 
select your favorite team and has a button to pick another team to follow and 
has a "done" button. Nothing I press allows me to change my favorite team.
Btw on the ipad I was able to sign in without reinstalling the app. It was on 
the main page but was was some other information I had to click "got it" for 
before the sign in button would work.


> -- 
> Cheryl 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears! 
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)


> On Aug 4, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Peter Logan  wrote:
> 
> No ... if you have an "audio pass" subscription ... then it works for other 
> providers .. I have At&T.
> 
> I had to delete the app .. and reinstall ...  however, when you do this you 
> will first have to choose your favorite team .. this screen isn't accessible 
> ...
> 
> Then if I remember correctly .. when you got to the settings screen you will 
> have the choice for already having a subscription and entering your user and 
> password ..  It's a little confusing ...  but once you get it .. you should 
> be good to go ..
> 
> They definitely could work on the accessibility of the app ...
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 1:04 AM, "Kliphton Senior"  wrote:
>> 
>> That is only for Verizon customers right?
>>  
>>  
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>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Cheryl Homiak
>> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: NFL Mobile
>>  
>> Has anybody figured out where to enter audiopass subscription information 
>> this year on the NFL mobile app. All I find in settings is the option to 
>> purchase and if I choose listen that is also where it takes me. It has to be 
>> hiding somewhere here in plain sight but I can't find it.
>>  
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>>  
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>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
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>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
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Re: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.

[Flor Lynch]

Similar to the back button. "This button, Escapes the current context." 
Doesn't always operate where I had expected it to. You're right about 
the keyboard on the 14 being so comfortable to write with! Doing texts 
on it is almost a pleasure. :-)


- Original Message - 
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 11:35 AM
Subject: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.


Morning.

I have just had the above since Friday last and have one question.

What does the round button do on the extreme left please? This button is 
on the front of the display just before the rocker switch. I went in to 
keyboard help and it said nothing. I also have the 40 Blue but I must 
say the 14 is so comfortable to write with. I !olely use the 14 with my 
I phone and the 40 with my Mac.


Thanks.

Kawal.

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downloading and installing an app

[Flor Lynch]

I've changed the subject line, since you've left the BBC Radio 3 topic.

This is something like my experience occasionally. When you double-click 
on a item to download it, your iPhone will say, "connecting..." Then it 
may or may not connect to the download. if it doesn't after a while, 
close out and restart your phone. then reopen the App Store, and 
double-tap on your search to try to resume. You might then get a 
message, "iPhone was unable to connect," or something similar, so go 
down to OK and double-tap OK. now you will be prompted for your password 
the next time you attempt to download. This is iTunes kicking in. Type 
your password. the download should begin and the install complete.
- Original Message --Q--- 
From: "Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 3:16 PM
Subject: RE: IPhone 5s And Radio


You have to click on the share tab at the bottom of the screen?
I have been clicking on the search tab, this may be where I am going 
wrong when I am trying to install Google Maps?

I type in Google Maps and one of the options is Google Maps for IPhone.
When I double click this, I don't seem to be able to get any further.
When I swipe around, there doesn't appear to be a free or any other 
button on the search results screen.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: 30 July 2014 12:38
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone 5s And Radio

I suppose it's subjective, but I would think most people would agree 
that using the App Store on your iPhone would be the easiest way to go.
Bring up the App Store app on your iPhone, double tap the share tab at 
the bottom of the screen, double tap in the search field and type your 
search string, which would probably be iPlayer in this case. You can 
then select from the list of suggestions below the edit field or double 
tap the search button at the right of the keyboard to kick off a 
complete search.


When the information on the iPlayer app comes up, double tap on the free 
button and then on the install button. You'll be prompted for your Apple 
ID password. After it's installed, you can double tap the open button or 
look for it in your last home page.


I hope this helps. I also hope it's accurate. I'm in a hurry, so I'm 
doing this from memory.


On 07/30/2014 05:48 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) wrote:

Thanks, that sounds really good.

Excuse me but what is the easiest way to go to app store, this is my
first attempt at this, go to app store on the phone or connect the
phone to my PC and use ITunes?

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Harry Bell
*Sent:* 30 July 2014 08:20
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: IPhone 5s And Radio

Go to App Store and download free iPlayer Radio made by BBC


On 30 Jul 2014, at 07:58, "Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)"
mailto:steven.hi...@nhs.net>> wrote:

Hi friends,

I would like to be able to listen to BBC radio stations over the
internet on my phone, it is really just the BBC ones, does anyone
know how I would do this please?

Do I need to go to the BBC wek site on the phone and download and
install an app or something similar?

Many thanks in anticipation,



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RE: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini

[Kliphton Senior]

Or you could join my list where we discuss everything apple.  And we don’t 
patronize or make anyone feel bad for asking a question, no matter how many 
times we have heard it before.  The info is below.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 8:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini

 

I just got a headless device so that in the event I get a Mac Mini then I won't 
have the problem with no screen. You might want to join the Macvisionary List 
where we discuss Macs ETC.

 

Kawal.


On 4 Aug 2014, at 12:59 pm, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > wrote:

HDMI is one option, but you can also get a Mini Display Port adapter for DVI or 
VGA if that's what your monitor has. This adapter plugs into the Thunderbolt 
port.

On Aug 4, 2014, at 3:04 AM, RobH. mailto:bobs...@googlemail.com> > wrote:





Monitor might be an issue without an adapter,  the video port on the Mini 
case is HDI.
- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Baracco" mailto:w...@socal.rr.com> >
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini


But if you already have a PC, you can use the keyboard, speakers, monitor, 
and I believe the mouse from your old PC.
Andy
From: Kliphton Senior
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 8:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini
They are the least expensive option, that is until you have to buy a 
monitor, keyboard, and if you prefer track pad.  Although any macmini bought 
after 2012 and beyond, you don’t have to connect a monitor.

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 On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 One thing I forgot to say is that the Mini is the least expensive Mac you 
can find, at least new. Minis start at $600, whereas the cheapest Macbook 
starts at $900, and iMacs are $1099, I think. That said, if it's your 
primary computer, I can't recommend a Macbook highly enough. They are so 
small and light that they're easy to take anywhere, and nothing beats having 
your entire computer with you when you need it.

 On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Kristeen Hughes mailto:khwi...@gmail.com> > wrote:


   Alex said everything I would have said. The USB drives do work well with 
the mini, if one needs such. I've used one a time or two. I rarely have a 
need for a drive anymore, however.

   Kristeen

   On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > wrote:


 I'm not Christine, but I have a Mini.

 1. Yes, all Macs have VoiceOer built in, so long as they have OS 10.4 
or later. In other words, any Mac you buy nowadays, and back to 2005 I 
believe, will have it.
 2. No, not anymore. They used to have disk drives, but have not for a 
few years now, just like the Macbook and iMac lines. Disk drives are going 
away, and I find that I only rarely miss having one, not even often enough 
to make me pick up a USB disk drive.
 3. No, the Mini is a small computer tower. It has no screen, keyboard, 
or mouse, though it does have a small internal speaker. It is meant to be 
connected to all necessary peripherals. If you're after an all-in-one 
solution, a Macbook might be better for you. The iMac is also an option; it 
has the tower and screen in one unit (though it is not a touch screen). No 
Mac currently offers a touch screen, only iOS devices do that. For the blind 
especially, though, a trackpad is just as good, since it lets you feel 
around the screen and perform familiar VO gestures to navigate and perform 
other actions.

 On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Donna mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:


   Hi Kristeen

   I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions 
for you. I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance.

   1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover?
   2. Does it have a CD drive?
   3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen?

   Thanks for answering my questions.

   Donna

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RE: IPhone 5s And Radio

[Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)]

You have to click on the share tab at the bottom of the screen?
I have been clicking on the search tab, this may be where I am going wrong when 
I am trying to install Google Maps?
I type in Google Maps and one of the options is Google Maps for IPhone.
When I double click this, I don't seem to be able to get any further.
When I swipe around, there doesn't appear to be a free or any other button on 
the search results screen.


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Sent: 30 July 2014 12:38
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Subject: Re: IPhone 5s And Radio

I suppose it's subjective, but I would think most people would agree that using 
the App Store on your iPhone would be the easiest way to go.
Bring up the App Store app on your iPhone, double tap the share tab at the 
bottom of the screen, double tap in the search field and type your search 
string, which would probably be iPlayer in this case. You can then select from 
the list of suggestions below the edit field or double tap the search button at 
the right of the keyboard to kick off a complete search.

When the information on the iPlayer app comes up, double tap on the free button 
and then on the install button. You'll be prompted for your Apple ID password. 
After it's installed, you can double tap the open button or look for it in your 
last home page.

I hope this helps. I also hope it's accurate. I'm in a hurry, so I'm doing this 
from memory.

On 07/30/2014 05:48 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) wrote:
> Thanks, that sounds really good.
>
> Excuse me but what is the easiest way to go to app store, this is my
> first attempt at this, go to app store on the phone or connect the
> phone to my PC and use ITunes?
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Harry Bell
> *Sent:* 30 July 2014 08:20
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> *Subject:* Re: IPhone 5s And Radio
>
> Go to App Store and download free iPlayer Radio made by BBC
>
>
> On 30 Jul 2014, at 07:58, "Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)"
> mailto:steven.hi...@nhs.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> I would like to be able to listen to BBC radio stations over the
> internet on my phone, it is really just the BBC ones, does anyone
> know how I would do this please?
>
> Do I need to go to the BBC wek site on the phone and download and
> install an app or something similar?
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> Many thanks in anticipation,
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RE: Forwarding A Text Message

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Hi,

 

Just to clarify, I flick down and it says more, do I need to double tap then
to activate the more?

 

 

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Just flick down on the part of the conversation you want to forward, it will
say more, flick to the right and double tap forward, and then you should be
able to send it to whom ever you choose.

 

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Could someone remind me how to forward a text message that has been sent to
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Re: PayPal Mobile Site Now Worse Than Ever With the Change Payment Option

[Cheryl Homiak]

I remember having trouble with that at one point and thought I had at least 
once found a solution but I don't remember for sure and don't have anything I 
need to go buy to try it out right now. One solution is to apply for bill me 
later and use that as your default, which is allowed, and then pay back bill me 
later; that website is very accessible with your i-device. On larger purchases, 
you also can get six months to pay; I think above $99. I know this won't work 
of everybody and you might not want to sign up for bill me later even if you 
qualify if spending is a temptation but it is one option.


> -- 
> Cheryl 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears! 
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)


> On Aug 4, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> Have you ever tried changing your payment option from the default to 
> something else? This is the only option for which I'm having the devil of a 
> time. I finally settled for using my default account after being sure it had 
> enough funds in it. There is no way to use the credit cart by default. (I 
> looked this up in PayPal help).
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
> the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
> 
>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 1:40 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> I have never had a problem with Pay Pal using my I phone.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>>> On 3 Aug 2014, at 08:32 pm, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, all,
>>> 
>>> Ok, I've tried the little trick of going to the home screen and going back 
>>> into Safari when it crashes while choosing the "change to" radio button. My 
>>> sighted husband says it crashes on my iPod when he tries it with VO off. 
>>> Anyone else have this problem? I've rebooted the iPod and taken Safari out 
>>> of the app switcher. I'm definitely suspecting there's something wrong with 
>>> the site.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
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>>> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
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Re: NFL Mobile

[Cheryl Homiak]

Okay, that has changed then. Nfl Mobile used to be specifically Verizon and I 
think there are still some features that are for Verizon users or are free for 
Verizon users but I'm not sure about that. As for being able to log in, guess I 
will try removing and downloading because right now there is no recognition 
that I already have audiopass and no login button.


> -- 
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> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears! 
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)


> On Aug 4, 2014, at 7:52 AM, Peter Logan  wrote:
> 
> They have several plans:
> 
> 14.99 - single team through 1/6/2014
> 19.99 - all teams through 16/2015
> 29.99 - all teams .. playoffs included .. also archived games 
> 
> Suggest going to there web site .. it's all there ...if I messed up the 
> details ...
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 4:24 AM, "Kliphton Senior"  wrote:
>> 
>> What is the cost?  Didn't seem to find it.  But then I am using IOS8 so that 
>> could be it. Oops, wasn't supposed to say that!lol
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>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: NFL Mobile
>> 
>> No, anyone can subscribe to NFL AudioPass and use the NFL Mobile app to 
>> listen to radio broadcasts of different games. I did it all last season, and 
>> I'm with AT&T. There seems to be a problem with the iPhone app though, in 
>> that it doesn't seem to recognize that you already have an NFL AudioPass 
>> subscription. I got around this by removing NFL Mobile and redownloading it. 
>> Now when I tried to listen to a game, I got a subscribe and a login button. 
>> I clicked the login button and used my NFL.com account, which is the account 
>> I used to subscribe to NFL AudioPass, and everything worked after that.
>> 
>>> On 08/04/2014 01:18 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
>>> Yes, I believe that is the case.
>>> 
>>> 
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 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
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 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
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 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come 
 to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness."
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>>> 
>>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:04 AM, Kliphton Senior >> > wrote:
>>> 
 That is only for Verizon customers right?
 
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 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Cheryl Homiak
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 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* NFL Mobile
 
 Has anybody figured out where to enter audiopass subscription 
 information this year on the NFL mobile app. All I find in settings 
 is the option to purchase and if I choose listen that is also where 
 it takes me. It has to be hiding somewhere here in plain sight but I 
 can't find it.
 
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 And now, every day:
 
 "This I call to mind,
 
 and therefore I have hope:
 
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 
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Re: PayPal Mobile Site Now Worse Than Ever With the Change Payment Option

[Teresa Cochran]

Have you ever tried changing your payment option from the default to something 
else? This is the only option for which I'm having the devil of a time. I 
finally settled for using my default account after being sure it had enough 
funds in it. There is no way to use the credit cart by default. (I looked this 
up in PayPal help).

Teresa

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the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

> On Aug 4, 2014, at 1:40 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I have never had a problem with Pay Pal using my I phone.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 3 Aug 2014, at 08:32 pm, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> Ok, I've tried the little trick of going to the home screen and going back 
>> into Safari when it crashes while choosing the "change to" radio button. My 
>> sighted husband says it crashes on my iPod when he tries it with VO off. 
>> Anyone else have this problem? I've rebooted the iPod and taken Safari out 
>> of the app switcher. I'm definitely suspecting there's something wrong with 
>> the site.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
>> 
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>> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
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Re: How accessible is overdrive

[Teresa Cochran]

As far as I'm aware, those memberships for Bookshare are for current lower 
grades and college students.. In any case, I switched to Kindle and never 
looked back.

Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

> On Aug 4, 2014, at 3:48 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> the company recognizes the accessibility issues with Overdrive and its
> limitations on fixing them, as it relies on software and coding from
> third parties.  For this reason, Overdrive offers free Bookshare
> memberships to patrons of libraries who opt in to this program at no
> additional cost to the library.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8/4/14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> I used Overdrive when Beta Testing for RNIB and did not like Overdrive on
>> the Mac or for the I Phone. I'd search for an Author and it would come up
>> with something else. Just hope they improve it soon.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>>> On 4 Aug 2014, at 09:52 am, Joanne Chua  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Overdrive is accessible enough to use, but it is not the most straight
>>> forward for VO. I think, in fact, the whole overdrive system is not
>>> really blind user friendly, and that is with my experience from all
>>> sort of different overdrive related apps, eiter on the destop or
>>> mobile apps setting.
>>> Again, it is accessible enoug for screen reader, but it require alot
>>> of patient and navigation and orientation for it.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Joanne
>>> 
 On 07/06/2014, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
 Where I live, many of the books are also accessible with Kindle. I've
 pretty
 much switched to it, because audiobooks were not playable on iOS or the
 Mac
 when I tried it, and braille was extremely unstable and made the app
 crash
 for me. I haven't checked it out in over a year, so this may have
 changed.
 
 Teresa
 
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 too
 dark to read."--Groucho Marx
 
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> wrote:
> 
> Yes, the app is accessible. However, it is regularly necessary to
> explore
> the screen. just flicking does not always access everything.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> 
>> On 6 Jun 2014, at 22:16, Sandratomkins 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I am asking on behalf of a friend because my local libraries are not
>> part
>> of this scheme. My friend is an iPhone user and lives in Australia.
>> She
>> is wanting to use the overdrive app to access books from her local
>> library. However, she tells me she finds it difficult to use it seems
>> inaccessible. Can anyone give me some pointers that I can pass on to
>> her?
>> Is the app truly accessible?
>> 
>> Thanks for all help,
>> Sandy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Mich,

You can turn contractions on and off with G-chord. (G + space) This will work 
with any Braille display with a keyboard, because it's a Voiceover function. 
You can also set it in Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, Braille.

HtH,
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> On Aug 4, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Mich  wrote:
> 
> Hi I have a question as well. I have never played around with a braille 
> display but this sounds verry nice from looking at the specks on fs's sight. 
> my question is is the braille in grade 1 or grade 2? the only reason I am 
> asking is because I read braille but do better in grade 1 then 2 since I 
> don't have to stop and think of what the contractions meen. from Mich.
> - Original Message - From: "Nicki Keck" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 8:33 AM
> Subject: RE: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.
> 
> 
> It takes you back.  It's lke your back button.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 6:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.
> 
> Morning.
> 
> I have just had the above since Friday last and have one question.
> 
> What does the round button do on the extreme left please? This button is on
> the front of the display just before the rocker switch. I went in to
> keyboard help and it said nothing. I also have the 40 Blue but I must say
> the 14 is so comfortable to write with. I !olely use the 14 with my I phone
> and the 40 with my Mac.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: Google MAPS

[Feliciano G]

I prefer google maps. Transit information is great on it. I also enjoy its 
walking turn by turn information. Download it you wont be disappointed.

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Re: NFL Mobile

[Peter Logan]

They have several plans:

14.99 - single team through 1/6/2014
19.99 - all teams through 16/2015
29.99 - all teams .. playoffs included .. also archived games 

Suggest going to there web site .. it's all there ...if I messed up the details 
...

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 4, 2014, at 4:24 AM, "Kliphton Senior"  wrote:
> 
> What is the cost?  Didn't seem to find it.  But then I am using IOS8 so that 
> could be it. Oops, wasn't supposed to say that!lol
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> -Original Message-
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: NFL Mobile
> 
> No, anyone can subscribe to NFL AudioPass and use the NFL Mobile app to 
> listen to radio broadcasts of different games. I did it all last season, and 
> I'm with AT&T. There seems to be a problem with the iPhone app though, in 
> that it doesn't seem to recognize that you already have an NFL AudioPass 
> subscription. I got around this by removing NFL Mobile and redownloading it. 
> Now when I tried to listen to a game, I got a subscribe and a login button. I 
> clicked the login button and used my NFL.com account, which is the account I 
> used to subscribe to NFL AudioPass, and everything worked after that.
> 
>> On 08/04/2014 01:18 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
>> Yes, I believe that is the case.
>> 
>> 
>>> --
>>> Cheryl
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come 
>>> to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:04 AM, Kliphton Senior > > wrote:
>> 
>>> That is only for Verizon customers right?
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Cheryl Homiak
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:39 PM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> *Subject:* NFL Mobile
>>> 
>>> Has anybody figured out where to enter audiopass subscription 
>>> information this year on the NFL mobile app. All I find in settings 
>>> is the option to purchase and if I choose listen that is also where 
>>> it takes me. It has to be hiding somewhere here in plain sight but I 
>>> can't find it.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> 
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>>> 
>>> thrown in the trash!
>>> 
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> 
>>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>> 
>>> And now, every day:
>>> 
>>> "This I call to mind,
>>> 
>>> and therefore I have hope:
>>> 
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>>> 
>>> never ceases;
>>> 
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: NFL Mobile

[Peter Logan]

No ... if you have an "audio pass" subscription ... then it works for other 
providers .. I have At&T.

I had to delete the app .. and reinstall ...  however, when you do this you 
will first have to choose your favorite team .. this screen isn't accessible ...

Then if I remember correctly .. when you got to the settings screen you will 
have the choice for already having a subscription and entering your user and 
password ..  It's a little confusing ...  but once you get it .. you should be 
good to go ..

They definitely could work on the accessibility of the app ...

Sent from my iPhone

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>  
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> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: NFL Mobile
>  
> Has anybody figured out where to enter audiopass subscription information 
> this year on the NFL mobile app. All I find in settings is the option to 
> purchase and if I choose listen that is also where it takes me. It has to be 
> hiding somewhere here in plain sight but I can't find it.
>  
> -- 
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>  
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> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>  
>  
>  
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Re: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.

[Mich]

Hi I have a question as well. I have never played around with a braille 
display but this sounds verry nice from looking at the specks on fs's sight. 
my question is is the braille in grade 1 or grade 2? the only reason I am 
asking is because I read braille but do better in grade 1 then 2 since I 
don't have to stop and think of what the contractions meen. from Mich.
- Original Message - 
From: "Nicki Keck" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 8:33 AM
Subject: RE: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.


It takes you back.  It's lke your back button.

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Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 6:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.

Morning.

I have just had the above since Friday last and have one question.

What does the round button do on the extreme left please? This button is on
the front of the display just before the rocker switch. I went in to
keyboard help and it said nothing. I also have the 40 Blue but I must say
the 14 is so comfortable to write with. I !olely use the 14 with my I phone
and the 40 with my Mac.

Thanks.

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RE: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.

[Nicki Keck]

It takes you back.  It's lke your back button.

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Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 6:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.

Morning.

I have just had the above since Friday last and have one question.

What does the round button do on the extreme left please? This button is on
the front of the display just before the rocker switch. I went in to
keyboard help and it said nothing. I also have the 40 Blue but I must say
the 14 is so comfortable to write with. I !olely use the 14 with my I phone
and the 40 with my Mac. 

Thanks.

Kawal.

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Re: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Oh thanks Anne. It just have the Panning at either end missing like it has on 
the 40. I just couldn't believe the size of the 14 after dealing with the 40! 

Kawal.

> On 4 Aug 2014, at 01:01 pm, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> Hello Kawal,
> 
> That button on the left is the Escape button. It should have taken you out of 
> keyboard help. Its counterpart on the right is the Media button which does 
> Play and Pause for whatever is selected in Music.
> 
> I agree, it's a very comfortable little beast.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 4 Aug 2014, at 12:35, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Morning.
>> 
>> I have just had the above since Friday last and have one question.
>> 
>> What does the round button do on the extreme left please? This button is on 
>> the front of the display just before the rocker switch. I went in to 
>> keyboard help and it said nothing. I also have the 40 Blue but I must say 
>> the 14 is so comfortable to write with. I !olely use the 14 with my I phone 
>> and the 40 with my Mac. 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I just got a headless device so that in the event I get a Mac Mini then I won't 
have the problem with no screen. You might want to join the Macvisionary List 
where we discuss Macs ETC.

Kawal.

> On 4 Aug 2014, at 12:59 pm, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> HDMI is one option, but you can also get a Mini Display Port adapter for DVI 
> or VGA if that's what your monitor has. This adapter plugs into the 
> Thunderbolt port.
>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 3:04 AM, RobH.  wrote:
>> 
>> Monitor might be an issue without an adapter,  the video port on the Mini 
>> case is HDI.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Andy Baracco" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 5:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini
>> 
>> 
>> But if you already have a PC, you can use the keyboard, speakers, monitor, 
>> and I believe the mouse from your old PC.
>> Andy
>> From: Kliphton Senior
>> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 8:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini
>> They are the least expensive option, that is until you have to buy a 
>> monitor, keyboard, and if you prefer track pad.  Although any macmini bought 
>> after 2012 and beyond, you don’t have to connect a monitor.
>> 
>> Frustrated with your I-device, Mac or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
>> Efficient  answers?  Then come join a list where questions are always 
>> answered, and we are always patient with you  Subscribe here
>> 
>> apple4beginners-requ...@freelists.org
>> 
>> All are welcome!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>  One thing I forgot to say is that the Mini is the least expensive Mac you 
>> can find, at least new. Minis start at $600, whereas the cheapest Macbook 
>> starts at $900, and iMacs are $1099, I think. That said, if it's your 
>> primary computer, I can't recommend a Macbook highly enough. They are so 
>> small and light that they're easy to take anywhere, and nothing beats having 
>> your entire computer with you when you need it.
>> 
>>  On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>Alex said everything I would have said. The USB drives do work well with 
>> the mini, if one needs such. I've used one a time or two. I rarely have a 
>> need for a drive anymore, however.
>> 
>>Kristeen
>> 
>>On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  I'm not Christine, but I have a Mini.
>> 
>>  1. Yes, all Macs have VoiceOer built in, so long as they have OS 10.4 
>> or later. In other words, any Mac you buy nowadays, and back to 2005 I 
>> believe, will have it.
>>  2. No, not anymore. They used to have disk drives, but have not for a 
>> few years now, just like the Macbook and iMac lines. Disk drives are going 
>> away, and I find that I only rarely miss having one, not even often enough 
>> to make me pick up a USB disk drive.
>>  3. No, the Mini is a small computer tower. It has no screen, keyboard, 
>> or mouse, though it does have a small internal speaker. It is meant to be 
>> connected to all necessary peripherals. If you're after an all-in-one 
>> solution, a Macbook might be better for you. The iMac is also an option; it 
>> has the tower and screen in one unit (though it is not a touch screen). No 
>> Mac currently offers a touch screen, only iOS devices do that. For the blind 
>> especially, though, a trackpad is just as good, since it lets you feel 
>> around the screen and perform familiar VO gestures to navigate and perform 
>> other actions.
>> 
>>  On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Donna  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>Hi Kristeen
>> 
>>I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions 
>> for you. I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance.
>> 
>>1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover?
>>2. Does it have a CD drive?
>>3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen?
>> 
>>Thanks for answering my questions.
>> 
>>Donna
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RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

[Rose Combs]

Not going to post office, nearest one is too far to walk in 110 heat.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

A postel order then, which you can get from your Post office? (I don't know
how that operates in the USA, but sending money through mail 'cheque or
postal order' are the usually guaranteed methods. 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 12:14 AM

Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

I don't want to send money through the mail, and do not want to write a
check.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 6:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

So, hear's an idea, Rose. Since you are having so much difficulty getting
this done, why not ask if someone could order it for you and have it sent to
you and you send them the money?

 

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:55 AM

Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

I did all you suggested more than once.  It just did not work but in a few
days when I have time I will try once again.  I never truly intended to get
an account and now that I know it has a CAPTCHA it is definitely not in my
immediate future.  I will try the guest option one more time but not today.
Off to work.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 3:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

Hi Rose, very sorry to hear you're having problems setting up a Pay Pal
account. The good news though is that it's not necessary to have a Pay Pal
account to buy through Pay Pal. There is an option to enter your credit card
number, and a good number of people are purchasing that way. With this
method there is no captcha to complete or anything like that.

These steps should work on most sites that accept Pay Pal but I'll try and
offer a step-by-step for purchasing iOS 8 Without the Eye.

Here's how it should work.

Choose the "add to cart button" on the Mosen Consulting site. You'll then be
taken to a page verifying your purchase. Be sure to verify the quantity is
correct, particularly if you've tried unsuccessfully to purchase before.

Activate the button labelled "Make Payments with Pay Pal, it's fast, free
and secure".

You're then taken to Pay Pal's site.

Navigate past the log-in form for Pay Pal, since you don't have a Pay Pal
account his is irrelevant.

Then you'll find a button labelled "pay with a credit or debit card, or bill
me later".

Activate that button.

You're then taken to a standard credit/debit card form which is fully
accessible and has no captcha.

If you have trouble, and and you'd like me to help, please feel free to use
the contact form on the website, and we can organise a time for me to call
you and take your credit card number. Obviously that applies to anyone
having issues.

Hope that's of some help.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 3/08/2014, at 8:17 am, Rose Combs  wrote:

 

I guess unless I can get the guest  form to work I won't be able to get the
book then.  PayPal should be ashamed for putting up a CAPTCHA we can't
solve, no audible line.  They don't want my business then. 

 

At this time I don't have time to install another browser, figure out how to
use it etc.  I am up to my ears in work and other issues like finances to
waste time on a company that does not respect users enough of offer
alternatives. 

 

Too bad too because I read the book last year in one evening I had no
problems adjusting to IOS 7.  I know some will say it take only a minute,
but if I mess up my computer with software I don't particularly trust right
now I won't be a happy camper since I need my computer right now.  I wish
Mr. Mosen would offer an alternative, it isn't like buying the book will
break the bank for me, far from it, not rich but certainly not penniless
either.  Have worked 38 years in one job will start year 39 on Tuesday. 

 

I will try the guest form one more time, if not, I will do as I did for 5,
and 6, figure it out on my own or wait until a missing manual or even an
Apple book full of pictures is available, not so helpful but I have done it
before. 

 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com[
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:41 AM
To:  

RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

[Rose Combs]

For heaven sakes, Microsoft is Microsoft, we all have to use it to some
extent, especially if we are working.  They should be able to help make the
web accessible including security stuff.  Hackers who to malicious code
should have their keyboards zap them!  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 6:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

Sorry,  but since Microsoft is often a target, in such case I wouldn't
'bank' on it not being broken or hacked into by spammers. 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 11:53 PM

Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

Well Then Microsoft should make something similar that accomplishes the same
thing in my humble opinion.  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

As for WebVisum the CAPTCHA-solving plugin that work with firefox, they
can't get it working with internet Explorer because they don't have access
to the Microsoft coding for IE and it would be too expensive for them to get
it. that was the story there, and i think it still is. SomeCAPTCHA's are
harder to resolve, because they are dynamic (i.e. changing within a short
time), than others are. 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 1:31 PM

Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

They need to make security accessible with alternatives that work for
everyone, not just those with eyes to see it with.  I thought I had an
account, but it does not work and I suppose maybe I could use the one my
husband had, might work if only I knew the password for it but someone night
get suspicious since he is no longer on my bank account.  Kind of difficult
for him to use his account since he passed in May.  Good thing I guess since
he can't spend on more junk.  

 

I will always maintain that if a CAPTCHA is of necessity then there needs to
be a solid reasonable way for someone who can't read it to be able to use an
alternative that isn't difficult to use.  I don't care what browser is used,
it should have an alternative.  

 

There are lots of elderly persons out there on the internet that can't see
enough to read those things, what do they do whether they use magnification
software, screen readers or large monitors.  Isn't this what accessibility
is all about, access for everyone?  

 

Don't get me started, I have one very difficult time getting Google's
audible to work, it was so fuzzy it took weeks before I finally got a code I
could type in fast enough not to generate another one and it was more dumb
luck than skill that finally got me in.  My late husband had trouble reading
it also and give up on it long before I did.  They left me no way to
communicate the difficulty.  Great search engine, no customer support that I
know of, no way to let them know one can't understand the audible they
provide.  I mostly use it for this account and my searches, have no real
interest in trying other features that may make me encounter that process
again.  

 

I should not have to have a specific browser, one I don't personally trust
all that much, and a specific plug-in, a plug-in, yes but it should work
with any browser.  I should not have to figure out how to get the image to
some site that no longer works, and if websites wish to keep doing this they
should be paying for solutions, not me.  It is my right to have access,.  

 

OK, I am off the soapbox for now.  It is a hot button for me, has from its
conception and implementation.  

I understand security but it needs to work for every person not just those
who can see the graphic and manage to get it in fast enough for it to be
accepted.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

If and when you do get the payPal issue sorted out, be assured that it'll be
worth it. they and we need security, so some sort of verification code is
necessary to authenticate the user. For one-off payments, sometimes a credit
card is a preferred option. I think I remember coming across that option
when I got "iOS7 Without the eyes". 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:51 PM

Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

I am giving up, can't get in as a guest it keeps running in circles when all
fields are full with correct

RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

[Rose Combs]

I tried once again, now giving up, I will figure it out, not wanting to send
a physical check to anyone.  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

I don't want to send money through the mail, and do not want to write a
check.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 6:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

So, hear's an idea, Rose. Since you are having so much difficulty getting
this done, why not ask if someone could order it for you and have it sent to
you and you send them the money?

 

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:55 AM

Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

I did all you suggested more than once.  It just did not work but in a few
days when I have time I will try once again.  I never truly intended to get
an account and now that I know it has a CAPTCHA it is definitely not in my
immediate future.  I will try the guest option one more time but not today.
Off to work.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 3:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

Hi Rose, very sorry to hear you're having problems setting up a Pay Pal
account. The good news though is that it's not necessary to have a Pay Pal
account to buy through Pay Pal. There is an option to enter your credit card
number, and a good number of people are purchasing that way. With this
method there is no captcha to complete or anything like that.

These steps should work on most sites that accept Pay Pal but I'll try and
offer a step-by-step for purchasing iOS 8 Without the Eye.

Here's how it should work.

Choose the "add to cart button" on the Mosen Consulting site. You'll then be
taken to a page verifying your purchase. Be sure to verify the quantity is
correct, particularly if you've tried unsuccessfully to purchase before.

Activate the button labelled "Make Payments with Pay Pal, it's fast, free
and secure".

You're then taken to Pay Pal's site.

Navigate past the log-in form for Pay Pal, since you don't have a Pay Pal
account his is irrelevant.

Then you'll find a button labelled "pay with a credit or debit card, or bill
me later".

Activate that button.

You're then taken to a standard credit/debit card form which is fully
accessible and has no captcha.

If you have trouble, and and you'd like me to help, please feel free to use
the contact form on the website, and we can organise a time for me to call
you and take your credit card number. Obviously that applies to anyone
having issues.

Hope that's of some help.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 3/08/2014, at 8:17 am, Rose Combs  wrote:

 

I guess unless I can get the guest  form to work I won't be able to get the
book then.  PayPal should be ashamed for putting up a CAPTCHA we can't
solve, no audible line.  They don't want my business then. 

 

At this time I don't have time to install another browser, figure out how to
use it etc.  I am up to my ears in work and other issues like finances to
waste time on a company that does not respect users enough of offer
alternatives. 

 

Too bad too because I read the book last year in one evening I had no
problems adjusting to IOS 7.  I know some will say it take only a minute,
but if I mess up my computer with software I don't particularly trust right
now I won't be a happy camper since I need my computer right now.  I wish
Mr. Mosen would offer an alternative, it isn't like buying the book will
break the bank for me, far from it, not rich but certainly not penniless
either.  Have worked 38 years in one job will start year 39 on Tuesday. 

 

I will try the guest form one more time, if not, I will do as I did for 5,
and 6, figure it out on my own or wait until a missing manual or even an
Apple book full of pictures is available, not so helpful but I have done it
before. 

 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com[
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:41 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

 

That is a CAPTCHA! Now, on the PC, you can decide instead to use an audio
CAPTCHA; or use WebVisum with Firefox, to resolve it. So, CAPTCHA solutions
for iPhone?

 

I was already signed up when I got a smartphone.

 

- Original Message -

From:  

Re: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Kawal,

That button on the left is the Escape button. It should have taken you out of 
keyboard help. Its counterpart on the right is the Media button which does Play 
and Pause for whatever is selected in Music.

I agree, it's a very comfortable little beast.

Cheers,

Anne


On 4 Aug 2014, at 12:35, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Morning.
> 
> I have just had the above since Friday last and have one question.
> 
> What does the round button do on the extreme left please? This button is on 
> the front of the display just before the rocker switch. I went in to keyboard 
> help and it said nothing. I also have the 40 Blue but I must say the 14 is so 
> comfortable to write with. I !olely use the 14 with my I phone and the 40 
> with my Mac. 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
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Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini

[Alex Hall]

HDMI is one option, but you can also get a Mini Display Port adapter for DVI or 
VGA if that's what your monitor has. This adapter plugs into the Thunderbolt 
port.
On Aug 4, 2014, at 3:04 AM, RobH.  wrote:

> Monitor might be an issue without an adapter,  the video port on the Mini 
> case is HDI.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Andy Baracco" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 5:02 AM
> Subject: Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini
> 
> 
> But if you already have a PC, you can use the keyboard, speakers, monitor, 
> and I believe the mouse from your old PC.
> Andy
> From: Kliphton Senior
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 8:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini
> They are the least expensive option, that is until you have to buy a 
> monitor, keyboard, and if you prefer track pad.  Although any macmini bought 
> after 2012 and beyond, you don't have to connect a monitor.
> 
> Frustrated with your I-device, Mac or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
> Efficient  answers?  Then come join a list where questions are always 
> answered, and we are always patient with you  Subscribe here
> 
> apple4beginners-requ...@freelists.org
> 
> All are welcome!
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>  One thing I forgot to say is that the Mini is the least expensive Mac you 
> can find, at least new. Minis start at $600, whereas the cheapest Macbook 
> starts at $900, and iMacs are $1099, I think. That said, if it's your 
> primary computer, I can't recommend a Macbook highly enough. They are so 
> small and light that they're easy to take anywhere, and nothing beats having 
> your entire computer with you when you need it.
> 
>  On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> 
>Alex said everything I would have said. The USB drives do work well with 
> the mini, if one needs such. I've used one a time or two. I rarely have a 
> need for a drive anymore, however.
> 
>Kristeen
> 
>On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> 
>  I'm not Christine, but I have a Mini.
> 
>  1. Yes, all Macs have VoiceOer built in, so long as they have OS 10.4 
> or later. In other words, any Mac you buy nowadays, and back to 2005 I 
> believe, will have it.
>  2. No, not anymore. They used to have disk drives, but have not for a 
> few years now, just like the Macbook and iMac lines. Disk drives are going 
> away, and I find that I only rarely miss having one, not even often enough 
> to make me pick up a USB disk drive.
>  3. No, the Mini is a small computer tower. It has no screen, keyboard, 
> or mouse, though it does have a small internal speaker. It is meant to be 
> connected to all necessary peripherals. If you're after an all-in-one 
> solution, a Macbook might be better for you. The iMac is also an option; it 
> has the tower and screen in one unit (though it is not a touch screen). No 
> Mac currently offers a touch screen, only iOS devices do that. For the blind 
> especially, though, a trackpad is just as good, since it lets you feel 
> around the screen and perform familiar VO gestures to navigate and perform 
> other actions.
> 
>  On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> 
>Hi Kristeen
> 
>I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions 
> for you. I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance.
> 
>1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover?
>2. Does it have a CD drive?
>3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen?
> 
>Thanks for answering my questions.
> 
>Donna
> 
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Re: How accessible is overdrive

[Kelly Pierce]

the company recognizes the accessibility issues with Overdrive and its
limitations on fixing them, as it relies on software and coding from
third parties.  For this reason, Overdrive offers free Bookshare
memberships to patrons of libraries who opt in to this program at no
additional cost to the library.

Kelly



On 8/4/14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> I used Overdrive when Beta Testing for RNIB and did not like Overdrive on
> the Mac or for the I Phone. I'd search for an Author and it would come up
> with something else. Just hope they improve it soon.
>
> Kawal.
>
>> On 4 Aug 2014, at 09:52 am, Joanne Chua  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Overdrive is accessible enough to use, but it is not the most straight
>> forward for VO. I think, in fact, the whole overdrive system is not
>> really blind user friendly, and that is with my experience from all
>> sort of different overdrive related apps, eiter on the destop or
>> mobile apps setting.
>> Again, it is accessible enoug for screen reader, but it require alot
>> of patient and navigation and orientation for it.
>>
>> Regards
>> Joanne
>>
>>> On 07/06/2014, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> Where I live, many of the books are also accessible with Kindle. I've
>>> pretty
>>> much switched to it, because audiobooks were not playable on iOS or the
>>> Mac
>>> when I tried it, and braille was extremely unstable and made the app
>>> crash
>>> for me. I haven't checked it out in over a year, so this may have
>>> changed.
>>>
>>> Teresa
>>>
>>> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's
>>> too
>>> dark to read."--Groucho Marx
>>>
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 6:50 AM, David Chittenden 
 wrote:

 Yes, the app is accessible. However, it is regularly necessary to
 explore
 the screen. just flicking does not always access everything.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

> On 6 Jun 2014, at 22:16, Sandratomkins 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I am asking on behalf of a friend because my local libraries are not
> part
> of this scheme. My friend is an iPhone user and lives in Australia.
> She
> is wanting to use the overdrive app to access books from her local
> library. However, she tells me she finds it difficult to use it seems
> inaccessible. Can anyone give me some pointers that I can pass on to
> her?
> Is the app truly accessible?
>
> Thanks for all help,
> Sandy
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Forwarding A Text Message

[Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)]

Brilliant, thanks, it works like a charm!


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Sent: 04 August 2014 11:30
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Subject: Re: Forwarding A Text Message

Double tap the more.

Thanks.

Kawal.

On 4 Aug 2014, at 11:12 am, "Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)" 
mailto:steven.hi...@nhs.net>> wrote:
Hi,

Just to clarify, I flick down and it says more, do I need to double tap then to 
activate the more?


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Just flick down on the part of the conversation you want to forward, it will 
say more, flick to the right and double tap forward, and then you should be 
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Hi friends,

Could someone remind me how to forward a text message that has been sent to me 
to someone else please?

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A question About the Focus 14 Blue.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Morning.

I have just had the above since Friday last and have one question.

What does the round button do on the extreme left please? This button is on the 
front of the display just before the rocker switch. I went in to keyboard help 
and it said nothing. I also have the 40 Blue but I must say the 14 is so 
comfortable to write with. I !olely use the 14 with my I phone and the 40 with 
my Mac. 

Thanks.

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Re: Forwarding A Text Message

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Double tap the more. 

Thanks.

Kawal.

> On 4 Aug 2014, at 11:12 am, "Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Just to clarify, I flick down and it says more, do I need to double tap then 
> to activate the more?
>  
>  
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Forwarding A Text Message
>  
> Just flick down on the part of the conversation you want to forward, it will 
> say more, flick to the right and double tap forward, and then you should be 
> able to send it to whom ever you choose.
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>  
> Hi friends,
>  
> Could someone remind me how to forward a text message that has been sent to 
> me to someone else please?
>  
> Many thanks in anticipation,
>  
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RE: Forwarding A Text Message

[Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)]

Hi,

Just to clarify, I flick down and it says more, do I need to double tap then to 
activate the more?


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Subject: RE: Forwarding A Text Message

Just flick down on the part of the conversation you want to forward, it will 
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Subject: Forwarding A Text Message

Hi friends,

Could someone remind me how to forward a text message that has been sent to me 
to someone else please?

Many thanks in anticipation,




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Trig tables?

[RobH.]

Can anyone recommend an easy accessible app for looking up trig tables or 
values.  I'd prefer not to have the whole table to scroll through, I just 
want to specify what I want and have that answer easy to find.

I'll have to start re-programming my online calculator if I can't find one.

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Re: How accessible is overdrive

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I used Overdrive when Beta Testing for RNIB and did not like Overdrive on the 
Mac or for the I Phone. I'd search for an Author and it would come up with 
something else. Just hope they improve it soon.

Kawal.

> On 4 Aug 2014, at 09:52 am, Joanne Chua  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Overdrive is accessible enough to use, but it is not the most straight
> forward for VO. I think, in fact, the whole overdrive system is not
> really blind user friendly, and that is with my experience from all
> sort of different overdrive related apps, eiter on the destop or
> mobile apps setting.
> Again, it is accessible enoug for screen reader, but it require alot
> of patient and navigation and orientation for it.
> 
> Regards
> Joanne
> 
>> On 07/06/2014, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> Where I live, many of the books are also accessible with Kindle. I've pretty
>> much switched to it, because audiobooks were not playable on iOS or the Mac
>> when I tried it, and braille was extremely unstable and made the app crash
>> for me. I haven't checked it out in over a year, so this may have changed.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too
>> dark to read."--Groucho Marx
>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 6:50 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, the app is accessible. However, it is regularly necessary to explore
>>> the screen. just flicking does not always access everything.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 6 Jun 2014, at 22:16, Sandratomkins 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I am asking on behalf of a friend because my local libraries are not part
 of this scheme. My friend is an iPhone user and lives in Australia. She
 is wanting to use the overdrive app to access books from her local
 library. However, she tells me she finds it difficult to use it seems
 inaccessible. Can anyone give me some pointers that I can pass on to her?
 Is the app truly accessible?
 
 Thanks for all help,
 Sandy
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: How accessible is overdrive

[Joanne Chua]

Hi all,

Overdrive is accessible enough to use, but it is not the most straight
forward for VO. I think, in fact, the whole overdrive system is not
really blind user friendly, and that is with my experience from all
sort of different overdrive related apps, eiter on the destop or
mobile apps setting.
Again, it is accessible enoug for screen reader, but it require alot
of patient and navigation and orientation for it.

Regards
Joanne

On 07/06/2014, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> Where I live, many of the books are also accessible with Kindle. I've pretty
> much switched to it, because audiobooks were not playable on iOS or the Mac
> when I tried it, and braille was extremely unstable and made the app crash
> for me. I haven't checked it out in over a year, so this may have changed.
>
> Teresa
>
> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too
> dark to read."--Groucho Marx
>
> On Jun 6, 2014, at 6:50 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>
>> Yes, the app is accessible. However, it is regularly necessary to explore
>> the screen. just flicking does not always access everything.
>>
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 6 Jun 2014, at 22:16, Sandratomkins 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I am asking on behalf of a friend because my local libraries are not part
>>> of this scheme. My friend is an iPhone user and lives in Australia. She
>>> is wanting to use the overdrive app to access books from her local
>>> library. However, she tells me she finds it difficult to use it seems
>>> inaccessible. Can anyone give me some pointers that I can pass on to her?
>>> Is the app truly accessible?
>>>
>>> Thanks for all help,
>>> Sandy
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Audible and safari

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

The only thing you can't do with audible if you are using it with the I phone 
is that you can't return books as you have to go on the Mac or PC to do this. 
This is very frustrating. I non't like using Audible on the PC or Mac because 
the website is too cluttered (well it was when I last did it using my I Mac) 
don't know now. I use it on my I Phone with no problems.

Kawal.

> On 3 Aug 2014, at 10:37 am, Lois Butterfield  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> It won’t really even come up on my computer.  I have never had a problem 
> navigating it when it did though.  I’m sure I’ll figure out the problem 
> eventually. 
>  
> I only brought it up here because ordering on the iPhone is so easy and just 
> requires fewer steps, thus faster.
>  
> Thanks,
> Lois
>  
>  
> Lois Butterfield, Certified Scentsy Consultant
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>  
> From: Cheryl Homiak
> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 10:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Audible and safari
>  
> I use Audible on safari a great deal and find it no problem to use. I think 
> from what you describe doing it on the iPhone maybe eliminates the shopping 
> cart and that might be easier for some people. I also haven't had trouble 
> getting the website to load recently and I am wondering what might be causing 
> this for you. I do have safari tell me something like "90 percent loaded" 
> sometimes but usually it does go ahead and load. But as I haven't yet bought 
> from Audible using my iPhone or iPad, the fact that it is very accessible is 
> good information to have.
>  
> --
> Cheryl
>  
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>  
>  
>  
>  
>> On Aug 2, 2014, at 7:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Lois,
>>  
>> I am curious as to what problems you experienced with the audible site on 
>> thecomputer. Are you using a Mac or PC? Which screenreader? I am a PC 
>> user with Jaws 15 and find audible.com easy to navigate especially with some 
>> of the quick nav keys like x for checkbox (when I purchase something and 
>> want to make sure if I am using a credit or direct payment), also b for 
>> buttons is useful in many cases and I even quite often use the virtual find 
>> feature if I am looking for a particular link where I know the name such as 
>> “add to cart” or something like that.
>>  
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Lois Butterfield
>> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Audible and safari
>>  
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> For the past few days, I have had a hard time getting Audible.com on my 
>> computer, so I tried it on my iPhone 5.  It is much, much easier to make 
>> purchases on the phone than it is on the computer.  I was pleasantly 
>> surprised and just wanted to share.
>>  
>> When you tap on the book you want after doing a search, there is a purchase 
>> with 1 credit button, then a confirm button, and that’s it.  I love it.
>>  
>> Lois
>>  
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>> http://loisbutterfield.scentsy.us
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RE: NFL Mobile

[Kliphton Senior]

Well, to not violate any apple rules, I won't tell you why I can't access it.  
I will try from my wife's iPad.

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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 4:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile

You have multiple packages to choose from. I get the $20 package which gives me 
access to all of the preseason and regular season games. I could upgrade to the 
playoffs for another $5, but I get it to listen to the games I can't get 
locally, and that's not a problem with playoff games. I doubt this has anything 
to do with what version of IOS you're running. The app is free. You pay for the 
AudioPass subscriptions through an in app purchase or from the NFL.com web site.

On 08/04/2014 03:24 AM, Kliphton Senior wrote:
> What is the cost?  Didn't seem to find it.  But then I am using IOS8 
> so that could be it. Oops, wasn't supposed to say that!lol
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 4:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: NFL Mobile
>
> No, anyone can subscribe to NFL AudioPass and use the NFL Mobile app to 
> listen to radio broadcasts of different games. I did it all last season, and 
> I'm with AT&T. There seems to be a problem with the iPhone app though, in 
> that it doesn't seem to recognize that you already have an NFL AudioPass 
> subscription. I got around this by removing NFL Mobile and redownloading it. 
> Now when I tried to listen to a game, I got a subscribe and a login button. I 
> clicked the login button and used my NFL.com account, which is the account I 
> used to subscribe to NFL AudioPass, and everything worked after that.
>
> On 08/04/2014 01:18 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
>> Yes, I believe that is the case.
>>
>>
>>> --
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>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come 
>>> to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>>
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:04 AM, Kliphton Senior > > wrote:
>>
>>> That is only for Verizon customers right?
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>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Cheryl Homiak
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:39 PM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> *Subject:* NFL Mobile
>>>
>>> Has anybody figured out where to enter audiopass subscription 
>>> information this year on the NFL mobile app. All I find in settings 
>>> is the option to purchase and if I choose listen that is also where 
>>> it takes me. It has to be hiding somewhere here in plain sight but I 
>>> can't find it.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Cheryl
>>>
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>>
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>>>
>>> thrown in the trash!
>>>
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>>
>>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>>
>>> And now, every day:
>>>
>>> "This I call to mind,
>>>
>>> and therefore I have hope:
>>>
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>>>
>>> never ceases;
>>>
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>>
>>> they are new every morning;
>>>
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>>
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Re: PayPal Mobile Site Now Worse Than Ever With the Change Payment Option

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I have never had a problem with Pay Pal using my I phone.

Kawal.

> On 3 Aug 2014, at 08:32 pm, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> Hi, all,
> 
> Ok, I've tried the little trick of going to the home screen and going back 
> into Safari when it crashes while choosing the "change to" radio button. My 
> sighted husband says it crashes on my iPod when he tries it with VO off. 
> Anyone else have this problem? I've rebooted the iPod and taken Safari out of 
> the app switcher. I'm definitely suspecting there's something wrong with the 
> site.
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
> 
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> the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
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Re: daisy book readers

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I don't like Overdrive myself.

Kawal.

> On 2 Aug 2014, at 09:24 pm, Joe Paton  wrote:
> 
> Thanks richard.  Saved me a lot of time.
> Joe
> 
> On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 05:43:40 -0700
> "Richard Turner"  wrote:
> 
> I've used Overdrive here in the United States with local library books and
> unless they have made a lot of changes, Voice Dream Reader will be a far
> better experience.  Plus, Voice Dream Reader will read lots of other text
> formats and you can easily drop bookmarks adjust playback speed, etc.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Friday, August 1, 2014 1:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: daisy book readers
> 
> There will be a new solution in September so that you can download and read
> books using your I phone or PC or Mac.
> 
> It's called Over Drive console. You can get the console from the App store
> already as other providers already use the application for their book
> offerings.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.   
> 
>> On 31 Jul 2014, at 08:40 pm, Joe Paton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> probably for UK subscribeers to the list, which app would subscribers
>> recomend for use with IOS7.x for reading audio talking books as
>> distributed by the rnib's talking book service?  I'm not sure which
>> version of DAISY is employed here.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> JP
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:26:54 -0400
>> Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> No, I don't think yours is a silly idea at all. I was just explaining why
> it might not be happening. Sorry for any confusion.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 29, 2014, at 16:13, Krister Ekstrom 
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Please do so and let me know what comes out of it. I can see that
> there's a great deal of work to be done if you want it localized, but won't
> there be some gain too? I mean they could make more money from more
> countries if their app was localized, right? Did i say something silly now?
>>> /Krister
>>> 
 29 jul 2014 kl. 16:57 skrev Richard Turner :
 
 Krister,
 I don't think you are being picky at all. I am an all too common US
> citizen who only speaks English. Once upon a time I received a degree that
> said I was fluent in German, but that was a very long time ago and I've
> forgotten most of what I once knew. I have tremendous respect for people
> like yourself and so many others on this list who can converse in more than
> one language.
 It seems to me that the developers of Fantastical are being a bit lazy.
> Ilkka, who wrote Blind Square has it localized in many languages, as is
> Aeriadne GPS, Chess-Wise 3 I think and probably lots more.
 I think I will write Ilkka and ask how much work is involved in
> localizing an app and pass his answer on to Flexibits.
 Take care,
 Richard
 
 
 "Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." - Victor
> Hugo
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jul 29, 2014, at 2:48 AM, Krister Ekstrom
>  wrote:
> 
> Am i being picky or something? The reason i ask this question is that i
> have heard so many good things about Fantastical but i don't like the fact
> that i have to type in english to make the calendar app work, worse yet, i
> wrote to the support and they said that they thought it would be a difficult
> and time consuming task to localize Fantastical into other languages so the
> question i want to ask here is are there any non-english speakers who
> actually prefer Fantastical over their built-in calendar and for what
> reason?
> I want to try the app but feel reluctant for the same reason i don't
> use Siri, which only is available in English and a couple more other
> languages but not Swedish. In Apples case i don't like that they do strictly
> anglocentric features but, and this is a rettorical question so no need to
> answer:-) but should one be as strict when it comes to things like
> Fantastical? What if Siri becomes available in Swedish but Fantastical
> doesn't?
> /Krister
> 
>> 28 jul 2014 kl. 22:37 skrev Ioana Gandrabur :
>> 
>> Other than the custom repeat function that's very useful in many ways
> like "repeat for 8 times every week", I also love the search feature.
>> Every once in a while the native calendar would garble the order of
> search results for a repeating event and it would make it useless for me.
> This never happens in fantastical.
>> I like how, using natural language one can set where one wants the
> event to be added. Say it is not in your default calendar but a separate one
> you indicate this in the sentence with slash followed by first letter of
> that calendar. /h for home for example.
>> 
>> Same goes for reminder lists.
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> Ioana 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Aside from the n

Re: NFL Mobile

[Christopher Chaltain]

You have multiple packages to choose from. I get the $20 package which 
gives me access to all of the preseason and regular season games. I 
could upgrade to the playoffs for another $5, but I get it to listen to 
the games I can't get locally, and that's not a problem with playoff 
games. I doubt this has anything to do with what version of IOS you're 
running. The app is free. You pay for the AudioPass subscriptions 
through an in app purchase or from the NFL.com web site.


On 08/04/2014 03:24 AM, Kliphton Senior wrote:

What is the cost?  Didn't seem to find it.  But then I am using IOS8 so that 
could be it. Oops, wasn't supposed to say that!lol

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 4:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile

No, anyone can subscribe to NFL AudioPass and use the NFL Mobile app to listen to 
radio broadcasts of different games. I did it all last season, and I'm with 
AT&T. There seems to be a problem with the iPhone app though, in that it 
doesn't seem to recognize that you already have an NFL AudioPass subscription. I 
got around this by removing NFL Mobile and redownloading it. Now when I tried to 
listen to a game, I got a subscribe and a login button. I clicked the login button 
and used my NFL.com account, which is the account I used to subscribe to NFL 
AudioPass, and everything worked after that.

On 08/04/2014 01:18 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

Yes, I believe that is the case.



--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come
to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)



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That is only for Verizon customers right?

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Cheryl Homiak
*Sent:* Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:39 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* NFL Mobile

Has anybody figured out where to enter audiopass subscription
information this year on the NFL mobile app. All I find in settings
is the option to purchase and if I choose listen that is also where
it takes me. It has to be hiding somewhere here in plain sight but I
can't find it.

--

Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

thrown in the trash!

Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears!

And now, every day:

"This I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord

never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness."

(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)

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RE: Google MAPS

[Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)]

Brilliant, thanks for the advice, I think that I will give it a try.


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Sent: 04 August 2014 09:26
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Google MAPS

Yes, it's accessible. I haven't used the Maps app from Apple in quite a while, 
so I'm not sure what advantages you have in Google Maps over the Maps app from 
Apple.

When I originally looked at the Maps app from Apple, I couldn't enter a 
destination except by address. With Google Maps, I can just type the name of a 
location and then select the one I want from a list. I also save popular 
destinations to my profile and then I can just select them from there. I assume 
Apple Maps has these features, and it was just user ignorance on my part.

Google Maps will also store your route locally on your phone. You'll need an 
internet connection to download it originally, but if you end up driving 
through an area with no coverage, as I did last weekend, you still get turn by 
turn directions. I'm not sure if Apple Maps has this feature or not.

Finally, I just find Google Maps to have a simpler more intuitive interface. 
Again, that could just be what I'm used to though, and it's definitely 
subjective.

Both apps are free, so there's no issue with having both on your phone and 
giving each a try.

On 08/04/2014 01:45 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) wrote:
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> A friend told me about Google MAPS which is a free application for the
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> Is it accessible and does it have any advantages over the Apple MAPS
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RE: Forwarding A Text Message

[Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)]

Brilliant, thank you very much indeed!


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Just flick down on the part of the conversation you want to forward, it will 
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Hi friends,

Could someone remind me how to forward a text message that has been sent to me 
to someone else please?

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Re: Google MAPS

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Yes, it's accessible. I haven't used the Maps app from Apple in quite a 
while, so I'm not sure what advantages you have in Google Maps over the 
Maps app from Apple.


When I originally looked at the Maps app from Apple, I couldn't enter a 
destination except by address. With Google Maps, I can just type the 
name of a location and then select the one I want from a list. I also 
save popular destinations to my profile and then I can just select them 
from there. I assume Apple Maps has these features, and it was just user 
ignorance on my part.


Google Maps will also store your route locally on your phone. You'll 
need an internet connection to download it originally, but if you end up 
driving through an area with no coverage, as I did last weekend, you 
still get turn by turn directions. I'm not sure if Apple Maps has this 
feature or not.


Finally, I just find Google Maps to have a simpler more intuitive 
interface. Again, that could just be what I'm used to though, and it's 
definitely subjective.


Both apps are free, so there's no issue with having both on your phone 
and giving each a try.


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Hi friends,

A friend told me about Google MAPS which is a free application for the
IPhone.

Is it accessible and does it have any advantages over the Apple MAPS
application please?




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RE: NFL Mobile

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What is the cost?  Didn't seem to find it.  But then I am using IOS8 so that 
could be it. Oops, wasn't supposed to say that!lol

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No, anyone can subscribe to NFL AudioPass and use the NFL Mobile app to listen 
to radio broadcasts of different games. I did it all last season, and I'm with 
AT&T. There seems to be a problem with the iPhone app though, in that it 
doesn't seem to recognize that you already have an NFL AudioPass subscription. 
I got around this by removing NFL Mobile and redownloading it. Now when I tried 
to listen to a game, I got a subscribe and a login button. I clicked the login 
button and used my NFL.com account, which is the account I used to subscribe to 
NFL AudioPass, and everything worked after that.

On 08/04/2014 01:18 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> Yes, I believe that is the case.
>
>
>> --
>> Cheryl
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come 
>> to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>
>
> On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:04 AM, Kliphton Senior  > wrote:
>
>> That is only for Verizon customers right?
>>
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>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Cheryl Homiak
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:39 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> *Subject:* NFL Mobile
>>
>> Has anybody figured out where to enter audiopass subscription 
>> information this year on the NFL mobile app. All I find in settings 
>> is the option to purchase and if I choose listen that is also where 
>> it takes me. It has to be hiding somewhere here in plain sight but I 
>> can't find it.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Cheryl
>>
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>>
>> thrown in the trash!
>>
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>
>> And now, every day:
>>
>> "This I call to mind,
>>
>> and therefore I have hope:
>>
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>>
>> never ceases;
>>
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>
>> they are new every morning;
>>
>> great is your faithfulness."
>>
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Re: NFL Mobile

[Christopher Chaltain]

No, anyone can subscribe to NFL AudioPass and use the NFL Mobile app to 
listen to radio broadcasts of different games. I did it all last season, 
and I'm with AT&T. There seems to be a problem with the iPhone app 
though, in that it doesn't seem to recognize that you already have an 
NFL AudioPass subscription. I got around this by removing NFL Mobile and 
redownloading it. Now when I tried to listen to a game, I got a 
subscribe and a login button. I clicked the login button and used my 
NFL.com account, which is the account I used to subscribe to NFL 
AudioPass, and everything worked after that.


On 08/04/2014 01:18 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

Yes, I believe that is the case.



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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)



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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Cheryl Homiak
*Sent:* Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:39 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* NFL Mobile

Has anybody figured out where to enter audiopass subscription
information this year on the NFL mobile app. All I find in settings is
the option to purchase and if I choose listen that is also where it
takes me. It has to be hiding somewhere here in plain sight but I
can't find it.

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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

thrown in the trash!

Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears!

And now, every day:

"This I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord

never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness."

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RE: Forwarding A Text Message

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Just flick down on the part of the conversation you want to forward, it will
say more, flick to the right and double tap forward, and then you should be
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Hi friends,

 

Could someone remind me how to forward a text message that has been sent to
me to someone else please?

 

Many thanks in anticipation,

 





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Forwarding A Text Message

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Hi friends,

Could someone remind me how to forward a text message that has been sent to me 
to someone else please?

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Whispersync: kindle book plus aueiobook on the iphone

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If you are reading braille, you can use whispersync and read a book with a 
human audiobook reader while reading the braille. You need to download both the 
kindle book and the audiobook in your kindle app and I had to download the 
Kindle book first. You will want to mute speech because voiceover and the human 
audiobook reader are not going to stay in sync. You have to have the audio 
playing and also double tap the reader button in the menu window. You will 
still have to turn pages, but as soon as you turn a page your audio and braille 
reading should be at the same place. If you don't read the braille or don't 
turn the page, the audio will continue but the braille will not advance. But it 
appears that all you have to do is turn the page and the two will come back in 
sync. I've only done this with one book so far so your method and mileage my 
vary. My braille reading is usually faster than the audiobooks unless I adjust 
the speed but I think I will enjoy reading and listening at the same time with 
some books. I kind of wish I hadn't discovered that this works because I'll 
probably end up spending more money!



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> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
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> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
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Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini

[RobH.]

Monitor might be an issue without an adapter,  the video port on the Mini 
case is HDI.
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Subject: Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini


But if you already have a PC, you can use the keyboard, speakers, monitor, 
and I believe the mouse from your old PC.
Andy
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They are the least expensive option, that is until you have to buy a 
monitor, keyboard, and if you prefer track pad.  Although any macmini bought 
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  On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

  One thing I forgot to say is that the Mini is the least expensive Mac you 
can find, at least new. Minis start at $600, whereas the cheapest Macbook 
starts at $900, and iMacs are $1099, I think. That said, if it's your 
primary computer, I can't recommend a Macbook highly enough. They are so 
small and light that they're easy to take anywhere, and nothing beats having 
your entire computer with you when you need it.

  On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:


Alex said everything I would have said. The USB drives do work well with 
the mini, if one needs such. I've used one a time or two. I rarely have a 
need for a drive anymore, however.

Kristeen

On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:


  I'm not Christine, but I have a Mini.

  1. Yes, all Macs have VoiceOer built in, so long as they have OS 10.4 
or later. In other words, any Mac you buy nowadays, and back to 2005 I 
believe, will have it.
  2. No, not anymore. They used to have disk drives, but have not for a 
few years now, just like the Macbook and iMac lines. Disk drives are going 
away, and I find that I only rarely miss having one, not even often enough 
to make me pick up a USB disk drive.
  3. No, the Mini is a small computer tower. It has no screen, keyboard, 
or mouse, though it does have a small internal speaker. It is meant to be 
connected to all necessary peripherals. If you're after an all-in-one 
solution, a Macbook might be better for you. The iMac is also an option; it 
has the tower and screen in one unit (though it is not a touch screen). No 
Mac currently offers a touch screen, only iOS devices do that. For the blind 
especially, though, a trackpad is just as good, since it lets you feel 
around the screen and perform familiar VO gestures to navigate and perform 
other actions.

  On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Donna  wrote:


Hi Kristeen

I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions 
for you. I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance.

1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover?
2. Does it have a CD drive?
3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Donna

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Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini

[RobH.]

VoiceOver:  yes.
CD drive:  no.
Touch screen: no. But you can also buy the magic track pad which is a touch 
screen you have down by your keyboard.
also,  you can, by two different means, put Windows on it. someone else can 
describe dual boot/boot camp,  and VM installations.

and yes, I'm not even Christine.

RobH, says so.
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Subject: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini


Hi Kristeen

I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions for you. 
I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance.

1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover?
2. Does it have a CD drive?
3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Donna

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